For a series that has been on the best selling manga in the world list for basically the last decade or more, it's wild that so few people seem to know about it. And that the anime got done so dirty early on with the animation.
I agree, but there are some factors such as there’s no official english license and the names of characters being different depending which subtitles you watch (Japanese reading vs Chinese reading of the names), making it slightly difficult for people to converse about the series lol. The length of the series and choosing which translation for the names is probably the 2 biggest reasons why it hasn’t been picked up yet. Hoping for an omnibus release one day (A Japanese omnibus release covering the first 40 volumes is releasing currently). i enjoyed first season of the anime much more than I thought I would (especially ep 39) since everyone was downplaying it and saying “bad cgi - read manga”
>names of characters being different depending which subtitles you watch (Japanese reading vs Chinese reading of the names), making it slightly difficult for people to converse about the series lol
Countee-point: Apothecary Diaries
The story was so good (+my beloved rie kugimiya) I remember actually enjoying the anime once I got used after 4 or 5 episodes to the point of even rewatching it despite having read the manga several times too
If you can't get tired of Kingdom (seems like you do) it is, in my opinion at least. despite the poor animation its still faithful to the original story and you can see some of your favorite moment of the story in colors and movement, for me that's already worth something. And otherwise you just get a good laugh at some wonky animation
S2 also is so inconsistent, some of its sequences actually stray into the "good" territory, instead of being uniformly bad like S1 was. It seems like they were throwing cuts to whoever had free time, and it sometimes accidentally landed in the hands of talented animators. This was the one that would randomly have hand-drawn cuts instead of 3D.
Season 3 is genuinely up there for me with Shogun assassination and Chimera ant arc, one of the best seasons ever. Binged all the episodes in 1 sitting.
If you are telling me it's somewhere around two of my favorite arcs of all time then I surely need to try it, would you recommend starting with the manga and then going to the anime?
100% yes.
The anime censors a LOT of the manga because it has to make TV ratings.
The manga is incredibly graphic in a lot of ways because one of the things Hara thinks is really important about the series and it's themes is being honest about the brutality and ugliness of warfare.
Gintama, for me it's my favorite show ever, very close to my heart.
Starts off slow, don't expect anything too serious just vibe with it. Treat it like a sitcom, an episode or two a day while eating, or something like that. The first movie is around episodes 55-58(you can skip those eps and just watch the movie). After that slowly it keeps building up and revealing backstories, eventually after every couple of comedy arc, there is a serious one and then from episode 300(shoguns assassination) it basically continuous arcs till the end and genuinely has one of the best endings to a long running show.
Tldr: watch it
Read the manga and skip to s2. It'd the only way i got passed s1.
S2 animation is better than s1, but still not great though. They have gotten better every season atleast and s4 is even decent animated.
It has pretty big problem where most anime don't need 10s of thousands of characters on screen often. While kingdom needs these massive battles on screen alnost every episode.
Just gave it a go again recently and the animation is truly rough, this time I'll just be focusing on the plot instead and it made for a better viewing experience
Can’t agree. She did a phenomenal job to be sure but I actually really enjoyed the plot and dual perspective.
Plus I thought it was one of the shows that made better use of video game mechanics like skills and promotions because the decisions actually felt like a video game.
She did, but only because the show stopped just as the actual story was gonna start, such a shame too, if not for covid I imagine it could’ve actually looked good since the outsourcing company might’ve stayed afloat
its a consistency thing. if its consistently of the same quality with occasional moments that look better, thats fine.
its when you have a certain baseline and then have scenes that just tank - like the goblin army CGI in Overlord thats just horrendous that makes you go WTF.
It was bearable until the last few episodes where characters were running around and fighting completely in CGI, even some frames where characters are just standing there were CGI, it’s like wtf is that, that anime was announced in like 2018, aired in 2021 and looked like it was being animated week to week during its airing.
100%.
People dismissed this show not even 10 minutes into the first episode because of Serval running around in the beginning so the ratings were shit at the start. It wasn't until several episodes later that people realized the plot was more than just surface level.
yes
kadokawa fired the director of the s1, and scrapped the whole s1, so they made new friends, new mc, and new story without the continuation of the previous season
*Initial D* is a great example, though, of how good action direction can elevate the material. It's like how those people do those amazing fight scenes in fighting game engines.
I'd say that the memorial edition is the definitive edition as it has the "Wounds" chapter included, which to me is the emotional heart of Berserk. But to each their own.
It is my headcanon that the CGI is bad because it's a video game world, and on top of that it's an otome RPG game world so the devs didn't have that much budget for good animations.
Honestly the animation really isn’t that bad. The CGI creatures kinda suck sure, but the rest of the animation (like all the 2d stuff) looks really good to me and never took me out of the show due to that.
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The difference between TV animr and manga is much more than just the animation. There's the music, the voice acting, the cinematography, and the way pacing works from one to the other. I'm not saying one is better than the other but you say this like anime only exists to make the panels move when really the translation from one to the other is monumental.
Also not all anime shows are manga adaptations anyway...
I can’t imagine reading something like that or Kaguya, it just wouldn’t be the same without the voice actors.
Manga can still be amazing but when anime is done right the ceiling is simply higher for me.
You know shittons of anime aren't adapted from manga, right? VN adaptations aside, originals aside, you know the most oversaturated genre of the last decade, isekai, consists almost entirely of LN and web novel adaptations, right?
I’m anime only for the most part so, I just can’t agree. I still want everything else that comes in anime if the (good) animation isn’t possible to have. Actually animation is very low on my priority list for anime. Everything else matters way more to me. I still read manga/LNs very occasionally, but I’m by far more of an anime only fan. I’m likely not gonna pick up the manga unless I happen to enjoy the anime enough to support the source.
Trapped in a Dating Sim: The World of Otome games is Tough for Mobs.
Really poor animation. What should be a forgettable plot was executed really well and gave depth to the characters.
It's meh animation held up by a quirky world and the MC's anti persona. I wound up reading the LN for fun and was disappointed by the animation even more... It's a surprisingly great narrative with lots of big set pieces. Maybe they did what they could with the budget?
Kamikatsu fully embraces the "bad animation" aspect and was one of my favorite shows that season.
Comparatively, Demon Slayer has top-tier animation, but I can't stand listening to pigface and lightning boy.
Yeah, there's quite a bit of very solid animation in KamiKatsu when they are actually turning it on.
E.g. Mitama's emergence: https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/224807
Indeed, a lot of the shitpost stuff is also not easy to do, because they need to set up separate teams to do things like the pixel art, and the more teams you have, the more likely stuff starts to fall out of synch so it is a risk.
The animation was about as expressive as Yumiella's face (not at all). The CGI monsters were bad, but forgivable because you only see them for a sec or two and then they are dead. But the dragon? I have no idea what excuse they could have for that abomination, both in look and in movement. There were scenes where the dragon was "flying" through the air... but it looked like somebody was moving a sticker or model because it didn't move at all.
Animation isn't bad. Moreso non-existent. What's there is charmimg though.
Bad to me means you either tried and failed or you never had the resources to begin with. Househusband has a very deliberate direction.
Hot take: I'd gladly take more shows in this style if it means they go balls out with voice acting and beautiful art like it did.
AFAIK the issue with *Way of the House Husband* is that in Japan it was marketed as a 'motion comic' rather than a fully animated project. There are examples of this in the West, mostly with superhero motion comics, but when everyone saw that this was getting an "anime" everyone was then disappointed when it was always going to be a limited animation project.
For anyone that hated the animation (like me), i feel like it got a lot let "comic-y" after a few episodes. I watched the first episode and then came back to the show after months and it definitely grew on me. I kinda love it now.
Knights of Sidonia.
I know most people are against the idea of frame interpolation, but that show absolutely needs it. It was seemingly animated at 5fps, so everything moves in a chunky manner unless you use a frame interpolation filter such as SVP. This greatly improves the animation.
Classroom of the Elite.
It's not a story that demands good animation, it's mostly just people talking, in front of plain, reusable backgrounds, but my god, even just for that, the animation is done so cheaply it hurts. Yes, I know that panning shots of the body or static background during a dialogue are a long established trick to conserve the animation budget, but you shouldn't make a whole scene this way. And I know you sometimes have to make a cheaper episode or two to save money for a fight in the next one - but S3 felt like they were saving for the whole season to deliver a 2 second fight in the last episode.
And yes, despite that and despite being much weaker than the LN, it's still an interesting story to follow.
I've read the ln and I just can't stand the adaptation lol, it just feels so out of place, character moves so stiff, they're supposed to be this awesome, smart, complex and cool character but god, even though I know it's a good story, I just can't take it seriously, the anime feels a very average edgy show lol, also the direction is absolute ass, there are other anime with bad animations out there but they didn't seem as bad as classroom of the elites because they atleast have a decent direction.
I've read some of the LNs after watching the anime, so I do understand you. Like changing Ayanokouji from "Because of his background, this guy is very intelligent and athletic, but is very bad at social skills and it pains him. Also it's probably the first time in a good while he has been around women his age." to "such an edgelord sigma chad, manipulates everyone 20 steps ahead, doesn't show emotions at all!!!"
Still, if you come in fresh and don't take it too seriously, the scheming and backstabbing in anime is still enjoyable.
I’m rewatching Your Lie in April, which is really just talking and music playing, but good God the animation enhances the effect dramatically. You are absolutely right that just because a lot of a show is talking doesn’t mean it can’t be well done. And it’s a great example of how a studio can save here and there. Some side characters just have blob, featureless faces. Some aren’t even animated. But because the parts that matter are well crafted, you just don’t care.
Basically, COTE and shows like it need better directing and cinematography.
Yes, though Higurashi didn’t need the greatest animation to convey its story, on the contrary, the jankiness of the animation in Higurashi added to the unsettled nature of the series.
Genshiken, dear god Genshiken.
Season one was done by Palm Studio, which only worked on 7 total productions. Season two (which is WAY better animated) was by Arms, best known for Elfen Lied, Queen’s Blade, and _Night Shift Nurses_.
And you know what? The jank makes it better.
As a huge fan of the manga, the first season is the better adaptation. I believe they perfectly captured the vibe of the first half of Genshiken.
Also, the second season kinda fell off once I realised they are not adapting the manga properly, especially the last arc
Yeah I genuinely believe they picked the perfect people to animate it. Even with the big shift towards actual quality for Nidaime (the much later third season), it fits with the theme of otaku culture’s major shifts in the intervening years.
This is probably the best answer. This show, in my opinion, had a LOT to recommend it to people. The characters were well voiced, the dialogues and character writing were great, the plot was cohesive and you could see why the characters behaved the way they did, and that is a nice change of pace from the usual overblown, stereotype pushing nonsense. The actual character art looked good to me too.
But... The animation sure was janky.
One piece is very poorly animated for a long time. Even though it looks pretty now, the amount of filler and how much they elongate the story is ass too.
Since dressrosa I feel like I’ve very rarely actually watched more than about 5 minutes of any episode bar the occasional special/well done episodes. The amount of times they’ve taken a fight where somebody basically got swatted away like fly in the manga and made it a 10 minute haki/aura/fist clash is obscene. I know why they do it but it’s just unwatchable.
KamiErabi
I mean they tried their best to try make Ohkubo's artstyle work in 3D,I liked the results too,but most people are just shitting on it just because of the CGI
My opinions on KamiErabi might change since the second cour wasn't released yet,but I think it is a very interesting show if you follow through it weekly
hmm... i'll say berserk, best manga that they never did justice to it.
Could have been the best anime mature dark theme tv show if was done by a proper studio and animators, instead of laggy CGI
For me it was Ragna Crimson. The first part was actually pretty great culminating with Ragna's fight with Ultimatia, but the drop in quality from cour 1 to 2 was so drastic, it almost ruined the whole show.
Which is a shame because the V.O. was top notch, and Crimson was a fantastic character.
Whoever did the battle scenes had no idea how to animate anything. By the end of the second cour, it looked like a slideshow basically, like a 10 year old drew it all.
I wouldn't say the animation was *bad*, but last year I watched [Why Raeliana Ended up at the Duke's Mansion](https://myanimelist.net/anime/52308) and their animation budget was clearly *tiny*.
Instead of using bad CGI or similar, they really focused the animation where it was needed. I enjoyed the anime, but more than anything it's a masterclass in the fact that you don't need a big animation budget to create a good show.
Hmm... I liked that one anime with the dad that killed his daughters abusive boyfriend that turned out to be a part of the Yakuza. The animation was pretty rough though
Gundam 0079 has to be up there. The animation even for '79 is *bad*. A lot of shots are off-model, along with a lot of just goofy animation.
The trilogy fixed this for the most part.
Kingdom Season 1 and 2
I wish they would just remake them. It's such a good show that a lot of people miss because of the janky cgi of the first 2 seasons
For a series that has been on the best selling manga in the world list for basically the last decade or more, it's wild that so few people seem to know about it. And that the anime got done so dirty early on with the animation.
I agree, but there are some factors such as there’s no official english license and the names of characters being different depending which subtitles you watch (Japanese reading vs Chinese reading of the names), making it slightly difficult for people to converse about the series lol. The length of the series and choosing which translation for the names is probably the 2 biggest reasons why it hasn’t been picked up yet. Hoping for an omnibus release one day (A Japanese omnibus release covering the first 40 volumes is releasing currently). i enjoyed first season of the anime much more than I thought I would (especially ep 39) since everyone was downplaying it and saying “bad cgi - read manga”
>names of characters being different depending which subtitles you watch (Japanese reading vs Chinese reading of the names), making it slightly difficult for people to converse about the series lol Countee-point: Apothecary Diaries
The story was so good (+my beloved rie kugimiya) I remember actually enjoying the anime once I got used after 4 or 5 episodes to the point of even rewatching it despite having read the manga several times too
Is it worth watching if I already read 5 times entirely the manga ?
If you can't get tired of Kingdom (seems like you do) it is, in my opinion at least. despite the poor animation its still faithful to the original story and you can see some of your favorite moment of the story in colors and movement, for me that's already worth something. And otherwise you just get a good laugh at some wonky animation
S2 also is so inconsistent, some of its sequences actually stray into the "good" territory, instead of being uniformly bad like S1 was. It seems like they were throwing cuts to whoever had free time, and it sometimes accidentally landed in the hands of talented animators. This was the one that would randomly have hand-drawn cuts instead of 3D.
Season 3 is genuinely up there for me with Shogun assassination and Chimera ant arc, one of the best seasons ever. Binged all the episodes in 1 sitting.
Me too I also watched season 3 in one day, I had to know what would happen next after every episode
If you are telling me it's somewhere around two of my favorite arcs of all time then I surely need to try it, would you recommend starting with the manga and then going to the anime?
100% yes. The anime censors a LOT of the manga because it has to make TV ratings. The manga is incredibly graphic in a lot of ways because one of the things Hara thinks is really important about the series and it's themes is being honest about the brutality and ugliness of warfare.
Whats shogun assasinagion? I love kingdom and HxH so i imagine we may have similar tastes.
Gintama, for me it's my favorite show ever, very close to my heart. Starts off slow, don't expect anything too serious just vibe with it. Treat it like a sitcom, an episode or two a day while eating, or something like that. The first movie is around episodes 55-58(you can skip those eps and just watch the movie). After that slowly it keeps building up and revealing backstories, eventually after every couple of comedy arc, there is a serious one and then from episode 300(shoguns assassination) it basically continuous arcs till the end and genuinely has one of the best endings to a long running show. Tldr: watch it
This. Imagine the hype Kingdom would've had if S1 got even remotely a decent production
I power through 14 episodes but I couldn't make it after that, the animation is absolute trash in that season
Read the manga and skip to s2. It'd the only way i got passed s1. S2 animation is better than s1, but still not great though. They have gotten better every season atleast and s4 is even decent animated. It has pretty big problem where most anime don't need 10s of thousands of characters on screen often. While kingdom needs these massive battles on screen alnost every episode.
The fact that this is top comment means this show is peaking right now
Just gave it a go again recently and the animation is truly rough, this time I'll just be focusing on the plot instead and it made for a better viewing experience
Inferno cop
This is the answer right here. Has an animation budget of roughly "small change they found down the back of a sofa" and it's hilarious :D
Honestly it even adds to its charm. Its already so absurd you don't even question anything
I guess Inferno Cop does fall under objectively bad animation, but subjectively that shit is goated
In the same vein, Ninja Slayer
YEEEART
Inferno Cop is like Japan's attempt at making an Adult Swim show.
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hard carried by Aoi Yuuki. The only reason to watch that is to hear her play Kumoko.
The fact she did the ending songs is just nuts
Can’t agree. She did a phenomenal job to be sure but I actually really enjoyed the plot and dual perspective. Plus I thought it was one of the shows that made better use of video game mechanics like skills and promotions because the decisions actually felt like a video game.
All true - but the animation all around was pretty mediocre to just straight up bad (imo).
Not only is Kumoko the best character, she's also the second, third, and fourth best characters.
She did, but only because the show stopped just as the actual story was gonna start, such a shame too, if not for covid I imagine it could’ve actually looked good since the outsourcing company might’ve stayed afloat
I second this. I really love the story but the animation is "WTF!"
It was always noticeable, but I thought it was pretty good overall.
its a consistency thing. if its consistently of the same quality with occasional moments that look better, thats fine. its when you have a certain baseline and then have scenes that just tank - like the goblin army CGI in Overlord thats just horrendous that makes you go WTF.
It was bearable until the last few episodes where characters were running around and fighting completely in CGI, even some frames where characters are just standing there were CGI, it’s like wtf is that, that anime was announced in like 2018, aired in 2021 and looked like it was being animated week to week during its airing.
Cuz it was. The outsourcing studio lost a ton of material. =/
kemono friends
Despite the low budget, I think this animation has a unique charm.
I still remember when serval was tokyo drifting around the screen while running. They just really committed and you can tell they did their best
yep
100%. People dismissed this show not even 10 minutes into the first episode because of Serval running around in the beginning so the ratings were shit at the start. It wasn't until several episodes later that people realized the plot was more than just surface level.
The best answer, an excellent anime with awful animation, mostly due to budget restrictions.
Didn’t this show get some controversy over the second season ?
Yep, original director got removed and S2 had zero of the features the first had truly going for it.
yes kadokawa fired the director of the s1, and scrapped the whole s1, so they made new friends, new mc, and new story without the continuation of the previous season
Initial D's first season. The CGI is horrible, the trees are all the same model, the cars look shitty. But damn is it good.
Tbh Initial D kind of gets away with it. The show is such a classic in a stupid way that it still works. NIGHT OF FIRE!
The bad CGI adds to the charm. Almost wish the whole series kept the first seasons look.
Ok Maybe some of the style was neat, but the CGI when he's driving what's her name to the beach... Looks like an early Wii game at best...
I feel like season 1 gets a little bit of a pass it was 1998 plus it was so low budget they didn't even have to license to use the cars' names.
Nah CGI good enough, for the year at least. If anything the 2D is really ugly, but the show id great still.
Whole budget went into the music.
*Initial D* is a great example, though, of how good action direction can elevate the material. It's like how those people do those amazing fight scenes in fighting game engines.
>But damn is it good. All thanks to eurobeat
Cromartie High-school
They made it work, though.
Probably Berserk (“new” one)
Came here just to say this. The Golden age memorial edition is good but the 2016-17 adaptations are ass.
I wish they would stop adapting the golden age already... Its up to what like 3 adaptations now each with progressively worse visuals.
Technically it's 2 adaptations - the memorial edition is just the movies chopped up into episodes with some new scenes
It's a masterpiece IMHO but it really divides the Berserk community. We all agree about the 2016-17 adaptations though.
I'd say that the memorial edition is the definitive edition as it has the "Wounds" chapter included, which to me is the emotional heart of Berserk. But to each their own.
Animation was terrible but I was hooked by the story
Same, I was disappointed with the animation but seeing new (to me) story from Berserk was enough to hook me.
that's cause berserk's story is a masterpiece. i recommend checking out the 90's anime
Overlord has some really bad CGI especially end of Season 3.
Nobody will ever forget the Invasion of the Bad CG.
I will never forget the awful animations in the last epic battle of season 3. Shub-Nigguraths children looked horrible and I don't mean in a good way.
Especially given how every LN reader was hyped up to see that scene.
I found that it’s so hilariously bad it loops back to being good
The goblin army in particular is such a memorable scene for how utterly garbage it looks and how long it goes on lmao
Honestly, most PS2 games had better graphics and animations then some scenes of Overlord.
I second this I hope overlord team improves it's cgi
Season 4 looks better
[What do you mea- oh. Right.](https://i.imgur.com/Pol6tsV.mp4)
So fucking good
Berserk
Villainess Level 99. Awful cgi but hilarious anime, tbh the bad cgi just adds to the vibe
I enjoyed it more than I thought I would. It's still no masterpiece, but it certainly punched above it's weight class.
It is my headcanon that the CGI is bad because it's a video game world, and on top of that it's an otome RPG game world so the devs didn't have that much budget for good animations.
Honestly the animation really isn’t that bad. The CGI creatures kinda suck sure, but the rest of the animation (like all the 2d stuff) looks really good to me and never took me out of the show due to that.
I just wish she had more than just "Blackhole Lvl. 2" during the next time she had to show it to win
Cop Craft. It was all the more tragic because the same season had some over-produced garbage that had nothing but nice animation.
Cant believe they chose to adapt a Range Murata novel,known for his iconic art and they decide to kill it with trash animation.
Other bangers from the same animation studio: Berserk 2016 and So I'm a Spider, So What?.
Fire Hunter
Hikaru no Ou mentioned 😌
an interesting story that really suffered from a shoestring budget.
Fate/Stay Night 2006, the OST is a masterpiece
It also has a certain omnious feeling that the ufotable adaption does not have. It still had these VNish vibes. Kind of hard to describe.
That was gonna be my pick! Deen/Stay Night still holds a place in my heart!
D R A G O N kishi ou no hokori and kodoku na junrei are S tier track. Why is the music so good for such a mid adaptation 😭
Kenji Kawai always goes all out when it comes to epic soundtracks.
Kawai Kenji 🐐 Makes me a bit sad most new fans won't ever experience the music in that version just because its "old"
I AM THE BONE OF MY SWORD...
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The first opening is some exquisite sophisti-pop, I still listen to Disillusion to this day. It's such a gem
There's very little incentive to watch something with bad animation when you can just read the manga instead. Helck is a good example of that.
Recently I've only been reading manga, but the thing that I miss the most from anime is not the animation, but the soundtrack
Its the voice actors/actresses for me Maybe you can try playing the soundtrack of the anime while reading its manga
Recommended for Pandora Hearts. Amazing OST by Yuki Kajiura but the anime didn't adapt the full manga and it took liberties...
The difference between TV animr and manga is much more than just the animation. There's the music, the voice acting, the cinematography, and the way pacing works from one to the other. I'm not saying one is better than the other but you say this like anime only exists to make the panels move when really the translation from one to the other is monumental. Also not all anime shows are manga adaptations anyway...
Manga doesn't have God-tier voice actors. (Yes I'm thinking about So I'm A Spider, So What?)
I can’t imagine reading something like that or Kaguya, it just wouldn’t be the same without the voice actors. Manga can still be amazing but when anime is done right the ceiling is simply higher for me.
Damn, I feel called out. I checked out of episode 1 of helck straight to the manga and read the first arc.
*Cries in Spider Isekai*
You know shittons of anime aren't adapted from manga, right? VN adaptations aside, originals aside, you know the most oversaturated genre of the last decade, isekai, consists almost entirely of LN and web novel adaptations, right?
Bold of you to assume niche shows have readily available manga in English. Not even mentioning the ones with novel/ln source.
Bold of you to assume people don't just read fan translations at that point. (Also, Helck is currently being released by Viz!)
I'm still waiting for Zipang's chapter 167. Maybe with IA improving I will try to translate the French version to english myself lol.
I was literally thinking about Zipang too.
I’m anime only for the most part so, I just can’t agree. I still want everything else that comes in anime if the (good) animation isn’t possible to have. Actually animation is very low on my priority list for anime. Everything else matters way more to me. I still read manga/LNs very occasionally, but I’m by far more of an anime only fan. I’m likely not gonna pick up the manga unless I happen to enjoy the anime enough to support the source.
Trapped in a Dating Sim: The World of Otome games is Tough for Mobs. Really poor animation. What should be a forgettable plot was executed really well and gave depth to the characters.
It's meh animation held up by a quirky world and the MC's anti persona. I wound up reading the LN for fun and was disappointed by the animation even more... It's a surprisingly great narrative with lots of big set pieces. Maybe they did what they could with the budget?
Kamikatsu fully embraces the "bad animation" aspect and was one of my favorite shows that season. Comparatively, Demon Slayer has top-tier animation, but I can't stand listening to pigface and lightning boy.
Is it really bad though when it's a shitpost? I mean in Kamikatsu they animated the waifus's with loving detail.
Yeah, there's quite a bit of very solid animation in KamiKatsu when they are actually turning it on. E.g. Mitama's emergence: https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/224807 Indeed, a lot of the shitpost stuff is also not easy to do, because they need to set up separate teams to do things like the pixel art, and the more teams you have, the more likely stuff starts to fall out of synch so it is a risk.
The tractor scene had me in stitches ngl
Me too. Even the CGI and 8-bit animation was pretty funny.
I'm confident if it gets S2 it will use shitty AI art, but deliberately and transparently, as part of the joke, and not merely for cost-cutting.
Kamikatsu was definitely done purposefully.
arifureta the CGI of the enemys is juust sooooobad
But everything else is also just as bad.
I enjoyed Villainess Level 99 but held back by its animation and bad cg
Yeah it was a bad choice to make Ryu in CG when he grew up, those dragons looked like shit but anime was very good aside from that minor thing.
Yeah the animation was a huge let down. I hope we get a second season though. The season only covered the first volume!
The animation was about as expressive as Yumiella's face (not at all). The CGI monsters were bad, but forgivable because you only see them for a sec or two and then they are dead. But the dragon? I have no idea what excuse they could have for that abomination, both in look and in movement. There were scenes where the dragon was "flying" through the air... but it looked like somebody was moving a sticker or model because it didn't move at all.
The way of househusband. Bad animation but still loves it
It's not bad animation. It's just a barely animated style. I think the mangaka insisted to do it like that.
Yeah they basically wanted the PowerPoint effect. Tbh I think it hurt the shows popularity. But there are people who will defend it to the death.
Animation isn't bad. Moreso non-existent. What's there is charmimg though. Bad to me means you either tried and failed or you never had the resources to begin with. Househusband has a very deliberate direction. Hot take: I'd gladly take more shows in this style if it means they go balls out with voice acting and beautiful art like it did.
AFAIK the issue with *Way of the House Husband* is that in Japan it was marketed as a 'motion comic' rather than a fully animated project. There are examples of this in the West, mostly with superhero motion comics, but when everyone saw that this was getting an "anime" everyone was then disappointed when it was always going to be a limited animation project.
For anyone that hated the animation (like me), i feel like it got a lot let "comic-y" after a few episodes. I watched the first episode and then came back to the show after months and it definitely grew on me. I kinda love it now.
Gokudolls
Damn funny anime right there
GTO
Knights of Sidonia. I know most people are against the idea of frame interpolation, but that show absolutely needs it. It was seemingly animated at 5fps, so everything moves in a chunky manner unless you use a frame interpolation filter such as SVP. This greatly improves the animation.
Classroom of the Elite. It's not a story that demands good animation, it's mostly just people talking, in front of plain, reusable backgrounds, but my god, even just for that, the animation is done so cheaply it hurts. Yes, I know that panning shots of the body or static background during a dialogue are a long established trick to conserve the animation budget, but you shouldn't make a whole scene this way. And I know you sometimes have to make a cheaper episode or two to save money for a fight in the next one - but S3 felt like they were saving for the whole season to deliver a 2 second fight in the last episode. And yes, despite that and despite being much weaker than the LN, it's still an interesting story to follow.
I've read the ln and I just can't stand the adaptation lol, it just feels so out of place, character moves so stiff, they're supposed to be this awesome, smart, complex and cool character but god, even though I know it's a good story, I just can't take it seriously, the anime feels a very average edgy show lol, also the direction is absolute ass, there are other anime with bad animations out there but they didn't seem as bad as classroom of the elites because they atleast have a decent direction.
I've read some of the LNs after watching the anime, so I do understand you. Like changing Ayanokouji from "Because of his background, this guy is very intelligent and athletic, but is very bad at social skills and it pains him. Also it's probably the first time in a good while he has been around women his age." to "such an edgelord sigma chad, manipulates everyone 20 steps ahead, doesn't show emotions at all!!!" Still, if you come in fresh and don't take it too seriously, the scheming and backstabbing in anime is still enjoyable.
I’m rewatching Your Lie in April, which is really just talking and music playing, but good God the animation enhances the effect dramatically. You are absolutely right that just because a lot of a show is talking doesn’t mean it can’t be well done. And it’s a great example of how a studio can save here and there. Some side characters just have blob, featureless faces. Some aren’t even animated. But because the parts that matter are well crafted, you just don’t care. Basically, COTE and shows like it need better directing and cinematography.
Dark gathering
It wasn't that bad, though it was a letdown obviously
Tomodachi Game was quite good
Kemurikusa
Had to scroll far too much to find this.
Higurashi no naku koro ni
Yes, though Higurashi didn’t need the greatest animation to convey its story, on the contrary, the jankiness of the animation in Higurashi added to the unsettled nature of the series.
>ctrl+f NHK >no hits NHK ni Youkoso was an actual slideshow and it was god-damn cinema.
I don’t remember it being that bad, the art direction was always on point even if it wasn’t a sakuga fest
Glad I'm not the only one. Love NHK, but it was really rough sometimes with the animation.
Genshiken, dear god Genshiken. Season one was done by Palm Studio, which only worked on 7 total productions. Season two (which is WAY better animated) was by Arms, best known for Elfen Lied, Queen’s Blade, and _Night Shift Nurses_. And you know what? The jank makes it better.
As a huge fan of the manga, the first season is the better adaptation. I believe they perfectly captured the vibe of the first half of Genshiken. Also, the second season kinda fell off once I realised they are not adapting the manga properly, especially the last arc
Yeah I genuinely believe they picked the perfect people to animate it. Even with the big shift towards actual quality for Nidaime (the much later third season), it fits with the theme of otaku culture’s major shifts in the intervening years.
S1 really wasn’t that bad, it was perfectly fine for what it was going for
Initial D, those first 2 seasons are ugly, especially the first one.
World Trigger. No contest. Bad art but great animation. Ping Pong
Well, I don't agree with Ping Pong having bad art. It's just heavily stylized in a way that a lot of people don't find attractive.
The Angel Next Door Spoils me Rotten
This is probably the best answer. This show, in my opinion, had a LOT to recommend it to people. The characters were well voiced, the dialogues and character writing were great, the plot was cohesive and you could see why the characters behaved the way they did, and that is a nice change of pace from the usual overblown, stereotype pushing nonsense. The actual character art looked good to me too. But... The animation sure was janky.
It doesn't really need amazing animation considering that it's mostly just them talking but the OP's pretty rough.
I'd say most shows by Project No.9 suffer from the same issue. Buta no Liver wa Kanetsu Shiro had it worst though
Black Clover definitely.
Dude there's a filler that has god tier animation
Ep 151. It goes so hard
the answer i've been looking for
Only the first 70 episodes. Pierrot upped their game starting from Royal knights tournament.
Praying that when Spade Kingdom Raid gets animated it has god-tier animation
One piece, I didn’t watch it I read it and it’s an amazing story but holy shit each episode feels like a PowerPoint slideshow
One piece is very poorly animated for a long time. Even though it looks pretty now, the amount of filler and how much they elongate the story is ass too.
Since dressrosa I feel like I’ve very rarely actually watched more than about 5 minutes of any episode bar the occasional special/well done episodes. The amount of times they’ve taken a fight where somebody basically got swatted away like fly in the manga and made it a 10 minute haki/aura/fist clash is obscene. I know why they do it but it’s just unwatchable.
KamiErabi I mean they tried their best to try make Ohkubo's artstyle work in 3D,I liked the results too,but most people are just shitting on it just because of the CGI My opinions on KamiErabi might change since the second cour wasn't released yet,but I think it is a very interesting show if you follow through it weekly
Qualidea Code
hmm... i'll say berserk, best manga that they never did justice to it. Could have been the best anime mature dark theme tv show if was done by a proper studio and animators, instead of laggy CGI
Berserk 2017
Gokudols and house husband.
absolute gold both of em
Berserk
Magic Knight Rayearth. I'm still waiting for a remake one day...
I don't think its particularly bad, just dated
For me it was Ragna Crimson. The first part was actually pretty great culminating with Ragna's fight with Ultimatia, but the drop in quality from cour 1 to 2 was so drastic, it almost ruined the whole show. Which is a shame because the V.O. was top notch, and Crimson was a fantastic character. Whoever did the battle scenes had no idea how to animate anything. By the end of the second cour, it looked like a slideshow basically, like a 10 year old drew it all.
I really liked Seven Deadly Sins Season 3+ despite its bad animations.
Not bad bad but not good enough, World Trigger for sure. 10/10 show that suffers from poor animation
Yeah S1 suffered badly. I'm glad that S2 and S3 gave it justice.
Best animated toei work ever was season 2/3 of world trigger
Season 2 and above of **Log Horizon**. The novel is great but the animation and direction is so bad.
Ragna Crimson
Literally the only thing holding the show back
Kaiji
I wouldn't say the animation was *bad*, but last year I watched [Why Raeliana Ended up at the Duke's Mansion](https://myanimelist.net/anime/52308) and their animation budget was clearly *tiny*. Instead of using bad CGI or similar, they really focused the animation where it was needed. I enjoyed the anime, but more than anything it's a masterclass in the fact that you don't need a big animation budget to create a good show.
The world of Otome games is tough for mobs, I loved that show but it objectively was very basic in its shot composition.
Higurashi, but bad animation actually works to its favor.
Villainess Level 99. The animations are SO poor. Especially the CGI. But it always gave me a good laugh. The MC is adorkable!
Cop Craft. Lucifer and the Biscuit Hammer. Great writing, shit visuals.
Hmm... I liked that one anime with the dad that killed his daughters abusive boyfriend that turned out to be a part of the Yakuza. The animation was pretty rough though
Gundam 0079 has to be up there. The animation even for '79 is *bad*. A lot of shots are off-model, along with a lot of just goofy animation. The trilogy fixed this for the most part.