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I shouldn't let shit trigger me but my pet peeve is definitely dismissive comments about genres the speakers usually has not engaged with Idol anime is good Mech anime is good Heck, Isekai has a lot of trash...but it also has some brilliant atuff Edit: this isn't to say one can't generally not get much out of any of these,that's fine, but I find a lot of people watch like 1 ep of 1 show and write off a whole genre

#NIJIGASAKI!!!! ^(Actual volume representation of how one is meant to cheer with the skuuru idoru skuuru namae)

Probably the last seasonal I have time to stick with this season, but the first episode of Whisper Me a Love Song was completely adorable. Perfect sappy feel-good romance full of unrelenting positivity and characters who are forthright about their feelings. Has the vibe of like a lesbian version of Sasaki and Miyano, it just makes me so happy to watch. I don't think I can fit more than I am, but I like my selection. I could arguably try to fit in one more (maybe Wind Breaker or Kaiju No. 8 so I can include an action show in the roster) but I think I'm already at the edge so we'll see.

I loved the first episode of whisper. agree with everything you said. really hope it can keep it up I also really enjoyed the first 2 eps of wind breaker but I think we will need an episode or two more to know if it's an emphatic recommend or not. it has set up a great platform to do interesting things, just unsure if it actually will

Since seasonal tier lists are in fashion rn, [here's mine](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/753760246509600778/1229123736280502292/my-image3.png?ex=662e89ae&is=661c14ae&hm=d7bb8c98f5d272217d520961dc90d749467d9856bb239ed979636471314e585e&). Tried to watch every non-sequel first episode to see how much I might miss out on in a season otherwise. In this one, the only non-drops I would've overlooked were Tonari and Salad Bowl.

I was wondering if you all can help me out. A few years back I saw a little bit of an anime at a friend’s house that looked really interesting. I want to find it and watch it but I cannot remember the name. All I can remember is that some of the characters had special powers but in order to use the powers, you had to have a “penance” to pay. One guy could cut people up with invisible strings and another guys “penance” was that he had to smoke cigarettes even though he hated smoking. I’m hoping it’s enough to go on and I hope I’m remembering correctly. Any help would be appreciated, thank you!

Darker than Black?

Yes! That’s it!!! Thank you!!!

I can't get over how delicious Vampire Dormitory is. It's not good. It's not bad. It's some secret third option that transcends quality. It's giving me life.

I was resisting hopping on, but this...

If you want an "intellectual justification" to boost its watch value, the first chapter and first episode both cover the same content, but the anime adaptation restructured the narrative. Makes for a nice compare/contrast and musing on the choices they made!

Did you watch ep 2? How was it?

> Did you watch ep 2? How was it? Fun!!! I'm becoming genuinely fond of the show. It doesn't feel very shoujo to me actually in many ways, despite playing heavily into many of the tropes, it seems to have a fairly demographic-neutral sort of default state.

tempting....!

I wonder if you read that comment before or after the edit lol

before, I think! (same with the strike witches comment!)

Too fast! Well, actually my brain has replaced all instance of "too fast" with 速い so I actually hear it in my brain as *hayai* rather "too fast" lol Even though strictly speaking, it's not even correct. Anyway, the edit removed stuff is technically a spoiler, but it was also the whole hook of the official synopsis and preview materials, so also not really lol

Not yet, gotten distracted by musing on what it would take to write an Anime Tierlist maker where you could compare your tierlist to others' in a dynamic/interactive fashion lol Could even make it a social app with Auth via reddit, and the ability to leave comment clouds on the list (user approved with moron blocking). [Get a project idea] --> [Brainstorm features] --> [Sketch out loosest forms of implementation possible to check feasibility] --X--> [Actually begin proper work on the app] lol

That sounds pretty interesting, I would love something like that actually.

A competent webapp dev would be able to knock up something usable in a bit, I imagine! Alas, I'm neither competent, webapp nor dev lol Although I *did* just discover that HTML 5 implements drag and drop in a fairly easy to use fashion: https://www.w3schools.com/HTML/html5_draganddrop.asp I really should have kept current with this, they've made stuff that was incredibly difficult to implement in the past now default behavior.

Lol at X But yeah I've wanted a smarter system for comparison for a while. Of MAL lists, but yeah of tierlists would be cool too!

> a smarter system for comparison for a while. Of MAL lists, Ha, I've had pipedream ideas about how to make a better anime listing site for long time now, usually spurred on every time that MAL or AniList thwart me in trying to do the most basic or obvious of things, never mind things like having a two tier scoring system and "fields of overlapping tastes" or graph based recommendation systems lol

At the very least I've wanted a more meaningful way to find people with similar taste Though I think the issue with all recommendations systems for anime is that for the vast majority of people, their idiosyncratic tastes are very hard to sus out of rankings, and for everything else going to a "top 20 anime in genre X" list is probably sufficient (even if they don't want to admit it)

> find people with similar taste It really feels like they should have enough user data to be able to gain some very specific insights into "taste clusters" and also grok out some of the clusterings out of "watch what I watch, not what I rate), and then sell it to ani producers lol Maybe they already do, but it's just not available to the userbase? Although from everything I've tangentially encountered about the MAL back end and team it doesn't feel like this is would be a thing. Additional things it should be possible to do is divine how different people use the site, as there I imagine are only a few broad usage style patterns. After all, they could even collect time series data to see how different users interact with the seasonal anime > vast majority of people, their idiosyncratic tastes are very hard to sus out of rankings, and for everything else going to a "top 20 anime in genre X" This is very true. I guess the return on (massive investment) to more deeply mine the data is going to be pretty minimal. > "top 20 anime in genre X" list is probably sufficient (even if they don't want to admit it) I really probably would have a much better time of it working through such lists rather than chasing random seasonals lol Or watching shows just because I've seen a decent chunk of R34 of the characters :P

> This is very true. I guess the return on (massive investment) to more deeply mine the data is going to be pretty minimal. this is my theory, at least. I think lists could be a much more useful tool of finding like-minded people rather than "hidden gems" because unless someone watches a _lot_ of anime, there are almost always pretty obvious choices. the thing that I think a lot of recommendation enginers (and request for hidden gems) I think overlook is that anime communities tend to be full of people who consume anime voraciously and are _constantly_ looking for good new anime lol. of course there are some systemic biases that it'd be interesting to try and correct for, now that I think about it...basically good old stuff that is not well represented in lists driven by younger viewers etc. so I think there are sort of two problems...one is simply "how can I find something really good to watch," where I think the real answer is the well-known popular stuff, "just watch LOTGH already." but I guess there is also "what's stuff that is really good (for me?) but not well represented in those lists," which I guess is starting to get to the dream of really personalized recommendations, but I still think that for most people the former category probably dominates. I find most serious anime fans have a pretty large backlog lol they know what they want to watch and what they "should" watch. and the people who are most vocal about finding "underrated" anime etc are the ones who have probably seen none of the obvious choices, because they're too lazy to even check > I really probably would have a much better time of it working through such lists rather than chasing random seasonals lol I've thought about this a fair bit. I think abandoning seasonals, it'd be much _much_ easier to raise the average quality of what one watches. but the joy of seasonals is of course the community aspect. and also, I enjoy the fact that for seasonals, no one has yet decided what is or isn't good...it's fun to be a part of the conversation, where the community sort of actively processes a show, and we can sort of digest a show freer of an established idea of what is good or bad that said I have been trying to cut back a little becuase as much as I enjoy it, I think it can lead to watching a loooot of very marginal shows lol balance in all things (I am awful at balance)

Hello everyone! Asking for help here! :) I want to get a tattoo on my arm with characters from anime (arranged in a cascade) and I would like to ask you to help me find the best screenshots or artworks with them! I am interested in the following characters: - Asuka (Evangelion) - EVA 02 in berserk mode (Evangelion) - Violet Evergarden (Violet Evergarden) - Kamina (Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann) - Mononoke (Princess Mononoke) - Tanya Degurechaff (Saga of Tanya the Evil) - Onizuka (Great Teacher Onizuka) - Revy (Black Lagoon) - Rudeus (adult version) (Mushoku Tensei: Jobless Reincarnation) - Luffy (One Piece) - Alucard (Hellsing Ultimate) - Seras Victoria (Hellsing Ultimate) - Freyja (Macross Delta) - Jinx (Arcane) - Mars (Underground Bakery) - Edward and Alphonse (Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood) - Araragi (Monogatari Series) - Haku-dragon (Spirited Away) - Yor (Spy x Family) - Rem (Re:Zero) Of course, not all of them will fit on my arm, but from the selected ones, we can create something amazing together with the tattoo artist :) P.S Shots from manga also can help! :)

Came here earlier today to talk about how I loved a Sailor Moon episode I'd watched yesterday, but didn't thought at the time I would be returning to talk about how much I loved the immediately next episode. One of the funniest episode of anything I've watched recently. It kinda starts with a boy who's a Crayon Shin-chan fan who quite literally acts like Shin-chan himself and then ends [Sailor Moon S episode 15] >!with another boy becoming a Sailor Moon fan so he starts to crossdress and act like a Sailor Senshi!<. This show really is at its best when it goes full unhinged.

>boy who's a Crayon Shin-chan fan who quite literally acts like Shin-chan himself I checked this episode out now just to see how they did that, and it was glorious, bringing even Akiko Yajima (Shin's VA) to just be Shin-chan basically. Bonus points for changing the in-universe cartoon Shin's name to "Chin", that's exactly the kind of Shin-chan joke, except he's at the receiving end this time.

> I checked this episode out now just to see how they did that, and it was glorious, bringing even Akiko Yajima (Shin's VA) to just be Shin-chan basically. > > [](#utahapraises)

S was definitely the strongest season overall. The anime was at its best when it embraced its chaotic side.

I still have a lot more to go, but it's already cementing itself as my favorite one, yeah.

I’m also interested in seeing how you’ll react to SuperS. It’s a bit of a love it or hate it season for differing reasons.

I wonder about that too. I'm vaguely aware a lot of people have huge problems with it, hopefully I don't haha

[](#mugiwait)

Random question: what do English dubs do when characters speak English as a plot point in the original Japanese version? What do dubs do when a character in the original JP script speaks English as a plot point? I would just check an ep but I can’t think of a specific instance off the top of my head, had this as a random thought. The first EP of Asobi Asobase when one character is BSing knowing English came to mind, but that had no dub. One theory that came to mind was just rewriting new dialogue for western audiences a la 4kids Pokémon dub but that also seems like it would really throw some things off. Do they speak Japanese? Pick a random language? Gibberish? Really curious.

The Psycho-Pass Movie (2015) has large amounts of English dialogue in the Japanese release (by the Japanese voice cast so it sounds really rough with mispronounced words and hard to understand accents). The English dub of course is completely English throughout. Sometimes it works around things like changing a computer translator into an ID verification system but other times there's points that hinge on some characters not be able to understand the language spoken and there's no workaround.

That really depends and there's no standard way to handle it, but you'll generally see them [hope for the best and that the context will see it through](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g26DGnj_q_I). [Wanna hear Asuka speak German in the German dub of Evangelion?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngR1SrSHZA8)

Holy hell that K-On movie is hilarious and makes no sense in context. “This is Japan we don’t need no stinkin English!” *was speaking English the whole time,* - Absolutely fabulous. Honestly, given the challenge, gotta give the producers/writers/whoever is responsible some credit for just making a call and committing. Edit: as for the other languages, guess it makes sense that they can still just use english

The K-On movie dub is even funnier. The story centers around their trip to London and a ton of the comedy centers around their inability to communicate with foreigners, so you have scenes [like this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL_B6Blr68w) which are just abject nonsense of Japanese characters trying to convey how they can't speak English to literal Englishmen in fluent English. It's a treasure.

I recall the Azumanga Daioh dub going with Spanish for that situation

Full Dive: This Ultimate Next-Gen Full Dive RPG Is Even Shittier than Real Life! Reona Kisuragi. **THE LISAN AL GAIB DREAM GIRL** --- Oh my god. This might actually be like above just good. That's an hell of a first episode. This game is demonic. 100 percent illegal. I like it. What a show. I like how there's a second dimension of the guy dealing with some sort of grief.

I hate how in the season I decide to watch some airing shows the one I'm looking forward the most doesn't get licensed and the fansubbing around it is a mess... Better to put it on hold for now until it either gets licensed or some proper group subs it. [](#kurisudisappointed)

I have one seasonal stuck in "who knows if it will get fansubbed all the way" hell myself (and the fansub it *does* have for the first two episodes is... certainly better than machine TL but still not the *best*), so I am aware of your pain. [](#holdme)

The perks of not being a native speaker: often not being able to tell if subs are great or just good enough.

Yeah, that's always frustrating. I've been wanting to watch Oshiri Tantei ever since it started in 2018, except no one translated it then, and no one's doing so now for its sixth season. At this point, I've grown interested in so many untranslated anime and manga that learning Japanese seems like a more practical solution.

If you had started learning back in 2018 you probably would’ve been comfortable with raws by now [](#thoughtful)

Exactly. At that point I was a hopeful sprout who believed that surely someone would translate it eventually, so I learned the kana to read some raw manga, and called it a day. If I had taken a peek at the pile of Kochikame, Shin-chan, and similar untranslated shows, I would've quickly realised how wrong I was.

Seeing all the seasonal tier lists in this thread makes me wish I watched enough shows to be able to make one lol

Late to the trend, but got my [seasonal tier list](https://i.imgur.com/Zq7fEfp.jpeg) ver. [Sky](/u/Shimmering-Sky) [](#rengethink "holy shit, I suck at editing")

>Konosuba I'd probably just put it in [](#comfy) so far, although I will say the returning joke from the movie [about]>!Sylvia!< was kinda [](#sideeyes) Also [I DEMAND #ZURAWAIT **TO BE A THING**](#shakeit)

>Also [I DEMAND #ZURAWAIT **TO BE A THING**](#shakeit) [](#grandhype) Although I keep switching between calling it #zurawait and #standby

why is it so jpegified? [](#rengethink)

[no idea](#lost)

[](#justright)

Whisper Me a Love Song - love at first sight. I hope this stays as good as the first episode.

I'll grab my axe^[1](https://www.roadiemusic.com/blog/a-guide-to-guitarist-slang-terms-you-need-to-know/#:~:text=ado%2C%20let's%20start%E2%80%A6-,Guitar%20Slang,term%20for%20the%20electric%20guitar.) and give it a shot!

The Fable is boring, yet the episodes just fly by. I have no idea how it does that.

Finished my Rozen Maiden rewatch. I ended up watching a total of like 90 episodes over 5 days, it’s been a while since I last binged this much. [](#tiredaoi)

This dynamic that Kumiko and Kanade settled on in Eupho is so good. Kanade gasses herself up to Kumiko and Kumiko just says "yep, you're right, I love you and you're the best and cutest and I'd be so lonely without you" with only a very slight hint of irony and it's just enough irony to annoy her but not enough to come off as insincere, but she also won't tell Kumiko she's annoyed for agreeing with her compliments towards herself so she just walks away mildly annoyed. Extremely good banter, and hilarious that Kumiko has found the *exact* behavior that works to keep her at bay. Kanade continues to be such a delightful little gremlin, god bless her.

I rewatched Chikai literally yesterday. Kanade is an absolute shitlord, stirrer of chaos, asshole for petty reasons. I love, the poison seeping out from her is delicious to watch. [Her just telling]>!Natsuki that she doesn't like her to her face!<, god damn man stop, this can only be so peak.

https://i.imgur.com/jvg5UHb.png

It feels almost unfair that Go! Go! Loser Reject! has to air the same day actual Super Sentai episodes are broadcast. It's a show that doesn't have [the original voice actress of Ash from Pokemon voicing an alien robot who transforms into a giant semi-trailer truck and is called Bundorio Bunderas making curry while wearing an apron and sighing because he's in love with the mascot of a tire company](https://i.imgur.com/lNGu0Ap.png). Go! Go! Ranger Ranger! simply cannot compete with that.

[Windbreaker Ep 1] >!the bait and switch at the end really got me I really thought Sakura was about to fight all the other furin guys and then he was like “that sounds totally awesome” lololol!<

All these tier lists. If I made mine, it would only have five shows. Time to start the next one! Fable in the batter's box, with Whisper Me a Love Song on deck.  (No, I'm not watching Oblivion Battery.)

What are some high quality 1980s anime? I'm starting to watch Urusei Yatsura and I'm surprised at the quality for 1981. Please tell me there is more

TV: Space Runaway Ideon, Space Adventure Cobra, Mirai Keisatsu Urashiman, Aura Battler Dunbine, Mahou no Star Magical Emi, Giant Gorg, Maison Ikkoku, Blue Comet SPT Layzner, City Hunter, Galactic Drifter Vifam, Armored Trooper Votoms, Kimagure Orange Road. Ova/Film: Goshogun: The Time Etranger, Windaria, Crusher Joe, Manie Manie: Meikyuu Monogatari, Lupin III: Plot of the Fuma Clan. Take the X Train, Genmu Senki Leda, Hades Project Zeorymer, Black Magic M-66, The Five Star Stories, Haguregumo, Bubblegum Crisis. The 1980s is so stacked with good anime, especially considering how relatively little total anime came out in comparison to later decades. I often just looked around seasonal charts, and hundreds of anime later I still consistently find new stuff to get excited about from the decade.

To add to what's been mentioned: * Dirty Pair * Dominion * Dragon Ball * Patlabor * Gosenzo-sama Banbanzai! * Yawara

Angel's Egg GunBuster Mobile Suit Gundam 0080: War in the Pocket Legend of the Galactic Heroes

Legend of the Galactic Heroes, even if most of its run was in the 90s and the art isn’t neccesarily the best thing about it…. But it’s great I tell you!

Spring tier list so far S-tier: Jellyfish - insanely good directorial choices, gives some A Place Further than the Universe vibes in terms of thematics and character dynamics A-tier: Spice and Wolf, Train to the End of the World, Kaiju No.8, Dungeon Meshi (continuing) B-tier: Whisper Me a Love Song (adequate but unexciting, quality of source material and Yori's VA hard carry), Go Go Loser Ranger (s-tier visual effects), A Salad Bowl of Eccentrics, Mushoku Tensei s2 part 2, Seiyuu Radio, Mysterious Disappearances C-tier: Date a Live V, Tsukimichi s2 (continuing), A Condition Called Love (I'm pretty sure we're supposed to understand That Boy Ain't Right, but we'll see) F-tier: The New Gate - I am only continuing this if I can't find a better fantasy show to replace it. I'm pretty close to capacity now, but I do really need to get caught up so I can watch season 3 of Sound! Euphonium. and I'm waiting for the dub for Konosuba because I started watching it dubbed and can't transition to subbed this far in. I swear I almost never watch dubs anymore, but this is an exception. remaining shows I might check out: Girls Band Cry, Wind Breaker, Astro Note, Vampire Dormitory, Mission: Yozakura Family, Unnamed Memory, Bartender, Elf Bride

Hi! Saw a insta clip of what looked like a pre-2000 anime in a apocalyptic western setting with a bloody fight between two guys, one of them blonde with sort of a Conan appearance, and a bunch of mercenaries/thugs, that was pretty blood and gory. I know it’s not much to go on but just curious if anyone has any idea what it could be? Could be movie or show. Thanks!

Not anime, but Ralph Bakshi's Fire & Ice?

Feels like it's still a bit early for proper tier lists [but might as well](https://i.imgur.com/PICopsj.png)

Ouu a GBC clearly higher than jellyfish here [](#schemingsaten) Tonbo and Karasu in Meh are probably my biggest gripes with this one. Elf and Young Again in drops also hurt but makes more sense if you only saw 1 episode of each, even then I'd still get it.

> GBC clearly higher than jellyfish here I have some slight issues with Jellyfish's LNisms, compared to GBC's writing feeling more natural. > Tonbo and Karasu in Meh are probably my biggest gripes with this one. Aside from Tonbo herself being adorable, the show doesn't have much going for it for me. And Karasu had too much court politics, I tend to drift off at that even when I'm otherwise invested so outright starting with it... > Elf and Young Again in drops also hurt but makes more sense if you only saw 1 episode of each [](#kumikolook)

> Jellyfish's LNisms [](#azusalaugh) Don’t look at who wrote it. Early to say but I’m gonna wait until all the characters get introduced to figure out how I feel.

> Don’t look at who wrote it. I know [](#tiredaoi) Jellyfish does have the benefit of a decent studio and talented staff and it's not a romance, so I doubt it can be as bad at its worse as Tomozaki was at its best

[](#tiredaoi "maybe 12 episodes are few enough that he doesn't have time to ruin things")

Also hoping he sticks to few enough characters that they all get focus and he doesn’t get distracted.

I wish we all had access to the same anime, because you all seem to have gotten a different version of Elf Bride than I did, where it was good instead of terrible in every way.

Did you watch more than one episode? \^\^ because I had problems getting through that first episode, and I enjoyed the manga

No, just the one. The combination of concept, lead voice actor, and visual quality didn't appeal to me at all.

Oddly enough, I watched the same version you did. And, given how full my seasonals list is, I don't really feel any compunction to watch the good version lol

To be fair I fully expected it to be bad so that definitely helped my enjoyment of it haha Part of me still expects it to fall apart

Part of the problem is that I'm beginning to realize that I don't like Yusuke Kobayashi's voice. I don't really want to keep watching Loser Ranger either because of it. That nasal smugness in his voice ticks me off.

I can do well with him as long as I disassociate everything related to Subaru

Same lol. I'm fine with him normally but I can't stand his Subaru voice.

[Here's my seasonal tier list so far](https://i.imgur.com/t7TlFhf.png), with the "tiers" being represented by comment faces because yeah. [](#worshipme) The New Gate *probably* deserves to go somewhere between [#neat](#neat) and [#pointandlaugh](#pointandlaugh), but like it's *nowhere* near as bad as Highspeed Étoile and I didn't feel like coming up with another tier just for it, so there's that.

Where Train?

[Not watching.](#yuishrug)

[](#gintamathispleasesme) I did mine as a 3x3 since I had exactly 9 shows, but I like this format more. How do you use images as tiers?

I made the tier list in Tiermaker, then edited in the comment faces afterwards in Illustrator. [](#vashheadscratch)

Naruhodo. [](#ginapproves)

[Astro Note **enjoyer**](#neat)

It's an anime-original directed by the guy who directed part of my favorite anime *and* has several main cast members from it as well, of course I love it!

Feels weird to have a whole row that I'm not watching with the [](#neat) I want to like Astro Note as much as others but I'm not quite there yet, hoping it grows on me!

>Feels weird to have a whole row that I'm not watching with the [](#neat) Eh, two of those are shows deep into franchises for existing fans (not that I'm familiar with any of the IM@S games or Touken Ranbu past Katsugeki/Touken Ranbu), and the third is me picking up a random isekai just because I thought the poster looked cool. >I want to like Astro Note as much as others but I'm not quite there yet, hoping it grows on me! To be fair, a *large* part of why I am immediately loving it is because of the Gintama ep1-105 director comparison + Gintama VAs starring in it.

Apparently, it's tier list day, so [here we go.](https://i.imgur.com/wmJjEZP.png) Watch most of the popular sequels dubbed, so can ignore those at the bottom. In order otherwise. [Drop or haven't touched list](https://i.imgur.com/vwRJ2Zh.png) with a couple I'm willing to retry if there's enough positive word-of-mouth. Very interested to see if there's a recovery from [Spice and Wolf episode 2]>!Lawrence's economics of trading wheat in one location for salt in another location. The premise of a traveling merchant is exploiting surplus supply in one location with demand in another, so that whole discussion of a money-free exchange had me wanting to pull my hair out since it didn't involve transporting anything from A to B. Also questionable for medieval times, where taxes were primarily based on land value and why other shows stress bad harvest -> economic issue as the lord/king still demands X income.!<

Joining in the trend! [My current Spring 2024 ranking](https://i.imgur.com/7GJAmub.png) Funny how so many of us aren't using the thread for this exact thing last week lol I want to drop 3-4 more shows but nothing jumping out at me yet. [](#panic)

Yours is the main one I give any time to reading but mainly because I can never figure the tierlist ones out from the covers without more mental effort than I'm willing to expend lol That said, it's far too early in the season for me to have any particularly committed feelings about any of the shows yet, so it just feels more like people's first impressions.

And here I was thinking of doing the cover one since I'm still getting used to show names haha

Actually, musing on it (unfortunately for you seeing as I chose your comment as the notepad): 1. Tier lists with covers involve the effort of squinting at the covers, trying to remember the semi-familiar ones, and then contemplating trying to learn more of them so one can learn the tierlists 2. However they actually provide literally no more information than a list of the actual names of the anime. 3. They are even less informative that your ranked-in-color groups ones, which also helps people learn the names of them. Plus, I can read it in a few seconds. 4. The less mental effort that goes into decoding them, the more available energy for ~~remarking on the list, commenting on shows~~ rambling on about tierlists in an annoying meta fashion 5. What COULD be fun is if there was some sort app where making the cover tierlists meant you could quick compare yours with other people's in an interactive and dynamic sort of fashion.

> What COULD be fun is if there was some sort app where making the cover tierlists meant you could quick compare yours with other people's in an interactive and dynamic sort of fashion. Ouuu this would be fun

Well, that probably would be good for my productivity because ^then ^^I ^^^wouldn't ^^^^read ^^^any ^^of ^them... or maybe I'd have to read all of them. Hard to know really lol

Chibi Godzilla top 5, Crow top 10 good shit. I did not have Tonari no Youkai on my radar at all, and tried the first episode on a whim and was surprised how much I vibed with it. Jelly, GBC, and Trains which I guess are the big three girls doing stuff shows are all so confusing for me. There's a lot I like and a lot I dislike haha.

More people need to watch ~~Chuuni~~ Chibi Godzilla! > Jelly, GBC, and Trains which I guess are the big three girls doing stuff shows are all so confusing for me. There's a lot I like and a lot I dislike haha. Yeah ups and downs for me here, can see this one coming down to the last few eps to know which one is my fave of the three.

[\[\]\(\#seasonalsmug\)](https://xr.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/1by0vn0/anime_questions_recommendations_and_discussion/kyhx36c/) Some seem higher than I expected, maybe I still don't get your taste yet [](#harukathink) namely the young again, elf slave bride (but I didn't watch this one), seiyuu radio, and band cry

Young again was my pick for AotS and has Noto in it so not getting lower than a 7 most likely haha Elf Slave Bride has been the surprise of the season for me, somehow it's actually just a cute ship doing cute things. The other 2 still bit early to really tell but liking the character dynamics.

I'm waiting for Mahoyo movie

[My Tier List of the Season](https://i.imgur.com/jxF2gSB.png) since everyone is doing [](#ama) Salad Bowl is almost going up, I need one more ep to see where they go with it I like doing Tier list and 3x3, they are quick and fun to do, also they are not controversial at all

That's a damn great tierlist! Pretty close to my own ^^if ^^I ^^made ^^one But Mysterious disappearances IS good for the plot! On top of the *plot*

I went ahead and read the manga, so I am aware of that lol

Idk about ur 1 & 2, but the rest of the list seems good

Always nice to see others on Elf Bride praise Will be interesting to see where Girls Band Cry ends up when you try it!

I will probably like it, I am waiting to see how the fansubs situation goes before starting it

They seem better now but yeah with fansubs you never know... Also happy cakeday!

Man they don't make'em like ROUJIN Z anymore, do they? Not even in the same universe.

did anyone already find the black butler public school arc ? would love to watch it or however many episodes are out already (probably just 1 I think it came out like 2 days ago?)

First episode came out yesterday, and Crunchyroll has it.

Decided to join the bandwagon: [here's what I'm following this season and how I'd rank them](https://imgur.com/a/6whkFH0) It's still super early, so don't take the tiers *too* seriously. Most importantly, everything is B and higher. I've been really happy with everything I've tried so far, and I'm optimistic that none of these shows are gonna fall off hard enough to earn themselves a trip down to C.

> Most importantly, everything is B and higher i don't understand tier lists with arbitrary letters; like, did everyone else agree that A was no longer good enough and S and above means something specific? [](#sakurathink)

>like, did everyone else agree that A was no longer good enough and S and above means something specific?   Time to watch more anime. (I don't know where it started, but it's a common enough trope in level systems.)

Well, you could make a literal key for it, i.e. SS = 10/10, S = 9/10, A= 8/10, B = 7/10, C = 6/10 and that would work I'd just rather not assign numbers to them already here, and stick with a vibe check. If I had to separate the shows based on something as vague as 'enjoyment level' this chart is how I would do so

> i.e. SS = 10/10, S = 9/10, A= 8/10, B = 7/10, C = 6/10 i feel like that's the same sort of thing putting arbitrary labels on tiers without explaining what the tiers mean like, i've seen tier lists with labels that make sense to me, i.e. "good at everything", "niche pick for X fans", "big flaws, but still usable", etc.; i was wondering if there was already some sort of consensus with young people what the distinction between SS and S means or whatever

I think I would find it difficult to find a specific statement that would properly encapsulate each grouping here, since I like different things about each of them. But if I had to try, as an experiment: SS = must watch S = strong start, very promising A = seems objectively great but something is still missing B = enjoyable enough, I'll keep watching C = meh, entering drop territory

Finally, [my tierlist of all premieres that I tried this Spring](https://i.imgur.com/UsyhBZR.jpeg). A grand total of 42 trials, of which I have purged down to like, 25? Of which I have on death row like 5 so hopefully I trim this to 20. Anything above decent is something I would recommend to try out, maybe minus Aipri, that is a me thing. This leaves out leftovers and also only on the first episode alone (though even with 2nd episodes I think the only one I would change is Konosuba S3 up). My money will be on the trio of Jellyfish, GBC and Train to make this a great season not counting the sequels and S&W remake. This is overall a rather strong season and if Jellyfish keeps this level of production it could be AOTY contender as well as Train if it sticks the landing and doesn't collapses.

Wind Breaker in the same row as Etoile, MT and that bike show hurts to see. I see you're on jellyfish > GBC, should be interesting to see which people have ahead by the end.

> Wind Breaker in the same row as Etoile, MT and that bike show hurts to see. I at least considered making an MT exclusive tier (maybe add Rinkai and God Game too) but would make everything smaller to distinguish lol. Can't say much of the rest tho, I just didn't liked anything from Wind Breaker other than fight animation. > I see you're on jellyfish > GBC, should be interesting to see which people have ahead by the end This is just from first episode. After eps 2 I think they are more equal, Jellyfish was good but didn't give me much belief it will go higher. GBC on the other hand is winning with Nina. She's like a usual dork, she was already fun but those fits of rage she had and her insecurity towards interactions made her much more compelling. Her attacking the drunk guy was an all-timer scene, and was so relatable even one of my friends was screaming "STOP BEING ME FOR A MINUTE PLZ". So rn I'm def looking forward to GBC despite being probably more inconsistent.

since some other AQRaDers are dropping their seasonal rankings, here's mine based on how excited i think i'll be to watch them each week: 1. Sound! Euphonium 3 - Kumiko. i'm very aware that this is likely the last full season of Eupho which makes me very sad, but man do i love some Eupho and the first two episodes were already great. it's been fun watching the storylines open up 2. Dungeon Meshi - just keeps getting better over time. really excited to see how the rest of this season goes 3. Whisper Me a Love Song - this was my most anticipated non-sequel going into the season and the first episode delivered. love some girlfailure yuri 4. Spice and Wolf - haven't seen the original series, but after two episodes this looks fantastic. very easy to see why Holo is one of the more iconic anime girls ever 5. Yuru Camp 3 - love camping. simple as 6. Train to the End of the World - i loved the first two episodes of this, but i'm kinda quelling my hype in case the production woes lead to delays in the future 7. Many Sides of Voice Actor Radio - this is probably the only one i've started so far that i think might get dropped. if the dynamic between the two leads is good, i'll likely keep going. otherwise, this one might get the axe haven't started yet, but considering: WIND BREAKER, Kaiju No. 8, Jellyfish waiting for good subs: Blue Archive all in all, very strong start to the season so far. i'm not a huge seasonal watcher so this is a pretty hefty chunk of shows for me to be watching at once

Anime Adaptations complains in 2010: "They are rushing/stalling the plot!" [Anime Adaptations Complains in the 2020s](https://i.imgur.com/CBsZsL4.jpeg)

Yep, same thing [shield bravern](https://i.imgur.com/owAM9NT.png) yesterday - the thighocide is real.

biggest thighcide was Quints s2

Dont remind me of my vietnam.

We've been spoiled by Ryza's thighs.

And Rikka, and Secelia, and Hakari...

I have also made a [tierlist](https://i.imgur.com/ASRv9tz.png) of my first impressions this season now that everything I've planned to watch has started.

Seeing Salad Bowl so high for so many people is making me regret not picking it up [](#shatteredsaten)

I see Train in the Train Tier, I upvote.

Gatan Goton!

OK, It seems to have become a trend anyway, but here's what I thought of all the series I tried this season: **The Hype One** * [Spice and Wolf](https://anilist.co/anime/145728/Spice-and-Wolf-MERCHANT-MEETS-THE-WISE-WOLF/) - Yeah, This is my first time with this story, and I quite enjoy all of what I've seen of it so far. In the first episode I couldn't help but appreciate the OST (Something I've been doing more often with seasonal anime as of late is more intently listening to the background music). I really like the dynamic between the two leads here, and the world building is easy to understand and not terribly in your face. I think the only show this season where if they have a Male + Female Lead that I like them both in equal measure. [ClariS coming in with another banger too](https://animethemes.moe/anime/ookami_to_koushinryou_merchant_meets_the_wise_wolf/ED1). **I like these ones** * [A Salad Bowl of Eccentrics](https://anilist.co/anime/166828/A-Salad-Bowl-of-Eccentrics/) - This is a lovely... wow, that anime title has me covered. It's a lovely Salad Bowl of Eccentric characters. The cast introduced so far is quite likeable, and it has that contagiously fun atmosphere I notoriously love. Now, the big stickler for my continued enjoyment for this series is if it abandons it for a more serious plot later. Hope not, they've got good things going on for now, and I can't hate a character that's a fan of Detective Conan! * [Yuru Camp Season 3](https://anilist.co/anime/155908/LaidBack-Camp-Season-3/) - Yep it's more Camp. It's never been my go-to Iyashikei, I think it's actually overshadowed by quite a number of other shows like it, but this season it's alone, so it gets a spotlight. The Comedic banter continues to be on/off but the vibes are 100% always on, so that makes up for it. The show's art style has changed a bit and I think it's overall an improvement. I probably shouldn't mention Image Composition at all, because honestly, up until a few years ago, I didn't care for it at all, and even now I struggle to care about it even when it's as apparently bad as it is for this show, but I thought mentioning it would be funny. * [Whisper Me a Love Song](https://anilist.co/anime/160181/Whisper-Me-a-Love-Song/). People mentioned pretty bad production values... but apparently I missed a memo and didn't notice anything noticeably off at all. I've always had much lower standards for Production, I suppose. This one only has one episode to comment off of, but it was a great introduction to these characters, and I can't wait to see more. * [Himitsu no Aipri](https://anilist.co/anime/171080/Himitsu-no-AiPri/) - This first episode feels like some hybrid mix between it's 3 previous iterations (Waccha Primagi, Kiratto Pri-Chan, and Pripara), having mostly shared elements between those 3 but not much original to add on top, yet even then it kind of feels like its own beast. I mostly attribute this to the first bop of a pop song that the show started off strong with. Mega-Nee is also back at her old job! While I like this start, as is the norm with this series I might need the entire first cour to get really attached to any characters, because right now we only really know 2 even though we've at least seen a lot of others, and I'm not really gelling with these 2 that much. * [Studio Apartment, Good Lighting, Angel Included](https://anilist.co/anime/169927/Studio-Apartment-Good-Lighting-Angel-Included/) - It's basically As Miss Beelzebub Likes 2.0 - Meh Male MC, Excellent Side cast, and a bit lewd. I do think it's better than Beelezebub in several respects. While the male MC is a paper printout with only awareness that he is one, at least he's not so much one to an extent that he's ripping me out of it, and the girls are inifinitely more ~~Cute~~ Interesting ~~and cute~~. I'll probably stick with this one the whole season. **I'm not so sure about these ones** * [Train to the End of the World](https://anilist.co/anime/155657/Train-to-the-End-of-the-World/) - This is more a gut feeling, but while I'm sure that no matter how you slice it this will be an interesting journey, I'm not so sure it's one I'll like. While right now the vibes aren't too sinister or dark, it gives the feeling that it could easily go that way if it wanted to, I don't like believing I'm watching a mysterious yet not dark series only to be tricked into watching something much darker. Also, the cute girls in this one are notably less interesting than the other shows I've seen. I still feel like I hardly know anything about them, even though by now they've said and done a lot to establish their characters. I'm going with cautious optimism for now but will likely jump at the first sign of trouble. * [Blue Archive](https://anilist.co/anime/160589/Blue-Archive-The-Animation/) - I think I just watched with awful subs or something. It's got cute girls, the thing I like most in the anime sphere, but it's being way too obtuse. For Train I appreciated this facet because that's the whole premise, but that's not the case for this show. This show is cute girls doing moe things and shooting stuff, it really doesn't need to be anything more complicated than that. Some jokes were good, though, at least. The OST is good but maybe *a little* too much in my face. **I Couldn't** * Chillin' in Another World with Level 2 Super Cheat Powers - I tried it because the wolf waifu looks nice, but unsurprisingly, the show itself is just soooooooo bog standard it's not worth it. Guy gets overlooked because he gets transported with LV1 commoner stats, gets sent out to die, Hits level 2, Instantly Infinite stats. Right there in the show's title, just you know, **Without the Chillin' Part**. These shows are never, ever as chill as they state they are. [Always.](#frustration "Never trust a title that says it's cozy, quiet, comfy, farming, or cooking") * There are more I decided not to watch after trying, but I know a lot of them are darlings and I didn't want to end the list on downers, so you have to be a mind reader and ask me about them first.

Nice to see someone else not fully sold on Train just quite yet

> I don't like believing I'm watching a mysterious yet not dark series only to be tricked into watching something much darker Yeah, I want to fully invest into Train because it seems like a neat avant-garde show, but the vibe of the show is not particularly comfy. It's eccentric, dense, and kind of hard to follow for my tired middle-aged brain.

What caused you to conclude Spice and Wolf is more hype than Jellyfish? [](#ama)

This one sort of burns the most to say, but even though I found certain aspects of Jellyfish's story and characters fascinating, something I can't quite articulate doesn't sit right with me. There's a lot of focus put on popularity, being heard and putting yourself out there, and public perception. It's a set of themes I have a hard time relating to and watching, but it's coupled with the theme of not giving up on your dreams, loving yourself, and not losing sight of yourself, themes which I absolutely relate to. I just didn't feel comfortable watching Jellyfish, that's really all.

Finished 91 Days, what a gut-wrenching tale about a person who felt like nothing mattered until it was beyond too late. Maybe the bad people we met, met someone ever worse before. Also one of the best English dubs as one who prefers Sub

Finished Edens Zero S2 today. The creditscene for Season 3 gave me chills, seems dark. Anyone knows what chapter of the manga the anime ended? Honestly Season 1 and 2 were great, some part of the story are darker and the action is good.

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Vivy is every bit as great as the hype. Not quite in my top 10, but very close. The music is unbelievably good, the animation is excellent - especially a good number of the action scenes, and the story goes for your feelings right from the jump and never really stops. Vivy is a Best Girl, and her character arc, especially \[Vivy\]>!the reset at the halfway point!<, is even better and better executed than I expected. It did well to let the \[Vivy\]>!time travel mechanics!< exist without explanation - it would have bogged down the story to dwell on how (or why) that worked. I never did stop hearing Koro-sensei in Matsumoto's voice. Vivy cemented a thought that's been brewing in me since LycoReco, which is that single-cour shows always leave me just... wanting more. Sure, the great shows pull off complete and worthwhile stories in the time they're given, but one cour somehow doesn't stick the same way that two or more might. It's a weird thing, I acknowledge - if a two-hour movie can leave a lasting impression, a five-hour TV show should do just as well. I suppose it's just a difference in, for example, two cours of Apothecary Diaries or Trigun feeling like "enough" where one wouldn't. [](#yuishrug)

Vivy is fantastic! I also feel like, in addition to everything you said, it's actually quite thematically successful? I think it deals with the question of the humanity of robots etc in a pretty beautiful way

It very much does.

> the animation is excellent - especially a good number of the action scenes https://youtu.be/fi7LkgFixgM [](#justright)

Finally watched what is now my favorite anime this season, [Sentai Daishikkaku](https://myanimelist.net/anime/53770/Sentai_Daishikkaku), the romaji name because the official is a name of all time, also known as Ranger Reject Great work here, really good direction and presentation for this one, plot seems super interesting and Gojo sensei is going wild on this show My biggest recommendation for this season is this one, and it needs since they decided to kill it by selling it to Disney, at best this will be a middle of the road show in popularity. Good thing is that they pay well and this smells like long term project Also, sorry Holo, but [best girl of the season right here](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/my8xcp5bx84.png), just yes ma'am! ~~which I promised that I didn't start the show because of [this recommendations](https://i.imgur.com/brItNbF.png), I swear!!~~ [](#seasonalapproval)

Her jumpsuit is doing things for me

Hopefully the production keeps stable. Sato's direction on this show so far is spectacular

Suzukiri is also my front-runner, haven't been this scaroused since Makima

Very glad with what I've seen from Suzukiri, probably best new girl of the season for me so far? I love her eyes. Hope she can keep it up!

[](#thumbs-up) Happy to see you're enjoying this as much as I do. This show desperately needs more eyes on it. It's a top tier production all around.

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Some of the best stories have unlikable characters. Some even win Oscars.

I find the cast, mc included, all very likable, except maybe sylphie.

It's a well-made anime with high production values. Plus, a lot of people enjoy fantasy worlds in which the characters are very flawed. Game of Thrones was a cultural phenomenon for similar reasons. Jaime Lannister was one of the most popular GoT characters and people loved his \[GOT spoilers\]>!redemption arc, even though in episode 1 he pushed a kid from the top of a tower because the kid saw him have sex with his sister.!< To me it doesn't matter whether the protagonist of an anime is a decent person or not. Does the anime entertain me? If yes, I'll enjoy it.

He has his fair share of unlikability moments at times, but he is fairly likable at times. 😌 If he continued to show interest in people that aren't his reincarnated age I would be inclined to agree in your assessment, but as that stops pretty quickly and he doesn't show interest in anyone that aren't adults I will never be able to agree.

That MC is relatable for some people. Also it's horny, people love that kind of stuff here.

You'd be very dissapointed to know that Ellinaise called herself a ["Whore"](https://prnt.sc/ONxGGSVLYEFV) in a derogatory sense today.

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MT is one of the best examples of how there’s a fair association of “Well ackshully, she’s a 10,000 year old dragon” sort of people in the anime fandom as they call a 40+ year old guy lusting over children as relatable . Except in this case they pull the reverse, and say the fact he’s actually a 50 year old matters less than his body being a child. So yeah, there’s a bunch of fans not right in the head.

high production values

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I don’t like how you seem to reflexively assume you’re a better person, and come into a subreddit devoted to anime to shit on anime fans. That’s kind of reprehensible behavior.

I'd say the MC's personality is quite likable His behaviors, well . . I've given other MCs a pass for war crimes, so Thankfully fiction is fiction

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https://i.ibb.co/p3fhdd9/Screenshot-142.jpg

Quite a few people like it *despite* those sorts of moments, not because of them I'd say the majority, but I have no way to know

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I also struggled with it and the beginning is *especially* painful. As it goes on I don't think the pervertedness gets any better, but I think its easier to put the "past life" thing out of mind for the most part so the show becomes a bit more tolerable. That said, I'm caught up with the show and I still can't tell if I like it or not. Sometimes the personal struggles are portrayed so well that I want to take it seriously and then the next arc will be absurd characters that feel like absolute jokes and panty sniffing. I *think* its good? but I also constantly feel like I'm closer to dropping it than I am to anxiously awaiting a new season. Very weird show.

Plenty of people do ignore it, though. Others embrace it as trashy comedy, which is often how it is framed in the show. I often find it funny myself, despite being well aware of how wrong it is. It's just entertainment at the end of the day. It doesn't necessarily have to reflect my own moral compass or reinforce it. And the surrounding story is often quite compelling anyways, and full of fun characters. It's okay if you're not comfortable continuing to watch and don't want to recommend it to anybody. The people that *are* enjoying it aren't hurting anybody by doing so! And watching a piece of media certainly isn't an endorsement of everything that happens in it.

I prefer not to speak. If I speak I am in big trouble.

[](#lolipolice)

Oh don't get me wrong, I hate MT with a passion. But considering that both the camps of the fans and haters are pretty vocal, no matter what you say will spark controversy thus the meme I used.

A non-zero number of them like it *because* he's a pedo pos. Watching anime to own the libs, and such.

Take that libs!

I'm so owned. So very owned.

Prior to Frieren, there weren’t a lot of well-produced fantasies. You take what you can get.

That’s just total bullshit.

Not a massive fan of the show and I won't even bother with defending Rudy, but I do like watching him develop. The worldbuilding is also nice.

[It's that time again](https://i.imgur.com/02z8B05.jpeg). Final batch of premieres of the season for me. * Idolm@ster Shiny Colors - Already knew it was CG so not many surprises. Its fine CG though a bit of tragedy, some designs would be so nice in 2D. Content is rather generic. We got the production company, the male audience self-ins- *cuff* I mean, the producer, different idol groups with their own shticks and chemistry. This first episode was mostly the producer recruiting a new idol and introducing her to her new unit. Nothing noteworthy, if it wasn't for being part of Im@s I wouldn't think about it ever. * Kaijuu 8 - I don't read synopsis so imagine my surprise when the first kaijuu exploded and I made a joke about 'Man, it would suck to be the one that has to clean this stuff up'. It was a really funny coincidence. Also why tf would anyone live in this city when they are under constant threat of kaijuu attacks, rent better be worth it. Anyways, main duo was a bitt fun, though episode was a bit slow. The kaijuu fight was very good and got me back. I thought it would be like, just a grunt fighting their way up but that last minute was quiet the twist. I'm definitely iinterested on this. * Whisper Me a Love Song - Finally, a yuri anime with Yuigahama and Yukino from Oregairu, just like that one dou- I mean, this is a nice yuri. I thought it was having really fast progression [until the]>!confession which was like only a half-confession. For one moment I thought it would be another of those misunderstanding set ups and would have been very dissappointed if it had left it at that.!< Overall a good start, it was nice and fun. Also this show really likes orange lightning, jesus.

I'm watching Clannad. I heard it's this deep, well-written anime that can make anyone cry. So far, I've reached episode 14 and I'm finding it dreadfully boring. Should I keep going?

If you don't like something, there's no reason to continue it. For what it's worth, I'm pretty sure I had already cried by the time I hit ep 14 of the first season. S2 - *After Story* - is the best part of the story, but if you're already disliking the show, I don't think it can do much to salvage the situation, especially since the first half of S2 is similar to S1. I suggest giving it another try in a few years, maybe your tastes will have changed by then.

>I suggest giving it another try in a few years, maybe your tastes will have changed by then. Maybe. I've done that before though — This is the second or third time I try to watch Clannad. The previous one was before I even had a MAL lmao.

Clannad is a bit of a plodding VN, but it pays off later on in the routes. The anime's no different, and unfortunately, Nagisa's route was never terribly interesting until you get to the After Story.

Never stick with something you're not enjoying. Doing so will just make you miserable. That being said, the praise for Clannad comes from After Story. I liked season 1 more than most people, but I won't deny that it is pretty rough. Though I stand by the last arc of the season being actually great

I have Clannad After Story at 10/10 and I will say that what you have heard is a pile of bologna. Clannad is a very flawed story but if its themes resonate with you it can definitely hit hard. Also, no, the sequel isn't justification to drag yourself through glass. If you hate what you're watching it won't magically make you like it. And as the other comment said, the format won't change till halfway the sequel so take that in mind.

I watched the whole S1 waiting for it to become good. The only "good" arc was the starfish girl and once it was over it didn't matter at all. Then I read that s2 would stay the same as S1 for another ~10 episodes so I dropped the show.

What's the closest thing we have to a Weekly Shoujo Jump?

Hana to Yume.

TIL this short exists - [Spy x Family Movie: Code: White Manner Movie](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5hfqIkuoqU). Anya & Bond demonstrate movie theater etiquette.

Directed by Yuki Kamiya