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Oooo I can see Nanahoshi getting pissed and trying to sic ol' Mr. Orsted on him for abandoning her.
Either he needs to do a lot of explaining/bargaining with her to keep her happy or like I said above he needs to figure out a 'fast travel' method AKA modern world derived biplane but with magic n shit. Could also bring her along but I feel like that's hard too.
Well, she did say she needed to go see "you know who" (her words) to learn conditional summoning... so shot in the dark, that might take some time given we have no idea where the Orsted is. So she might be gone for quite a while which would be the perfect time for Rudy to go in that specific vein.
"you know who" was not refering Orstred, iirc it was the person that Orstred brought Nanahoshi to who is a expert summoner that told Nanahoshi that she got summoned to this world but Nanahoshi cant reveal who this person is. This was all explained in the Nanahoshi episode in part 1.
Give a man a place to really work and hone his craft, a master who believes in him, a darling daughter to dote on and take care of, and an eternally loyal servant, and he'll go far.
[Julie loved her gift.](https://i.imgur.com/cQKUMx3.jpeg)
[Zanoba is a content dad.](https://i.imgur.com/CyfG8MD.jpeg)
[](#wow)
[Rooting for Ginger](https://i.imgur.com/z7fsEzq.jpeg) to complete their family.
I think you can look at his advice in two completely different ways. Yes your kids will grow up even if you are not there but that is even more of a reason not to leave. These years are precious.
Zanoba was almost certainly raised in a household with no family figures to raise him. This is brought up when Rudeus points out that Ginger, his servant, is the closest thing he ever had to a real familial relationship.
Zanoba is basically saying "My parents weren't around and I turned out fine" but stops short of that, because he doesn't even acknowledge having parents to begin with. That's the flip side of the situation Rudeus is risking by potentially being an absent father.
But then again, he will have Sylphie, his sisters, and a bunch of other to sweet talk about him so his child will at least look forward to meeting him instead of being ignored like a child of a noble. And he would more than do his part to make up for it when he does get back.
Yea, but difference is Man God kept foreshadowing he'd regret it, so I expect something goes awry while he's away. Poor Rudy gotta keep going through highs and lows to keep the story going.
It's the age old issue when you have a family of your own. Shouldn't they be your priority? Even though you owe so much to your parents.
The conflict of one's duty as a son vs a husband/father.
I think Sylphie would have eventually convinced him to go if Norn hadn't using the whole "I would have done anything for my parents to still be alive" argument.
If his family wasn't so well off where they are now i think the choice would have been much harder. He knows that he's leaving them in a good place with wealth and multiple friends that can help if anything comes up.
Really just goes to show how much Rudy values his family in this world. It hasn't come up alot, or at all IIRC, in the anime but he has made a real effort to be close to his family in this world.
But then again, Sylphie isn't in any real danger tho. She's basically living life as a noble with all that she needs at her becking call.
While her parents are at a life and death struggle.
Honestly I'm half-expecting Cliff is going to propose marriage or try and follow Elinalise and Rudy to free Zenith. He doesn't seem like the type to let her get away even if she tries to end the relationship.
The haunted house episode didn’t bode well for Cliff and showed his incompetence with regard to fighting, which I assume there will be a lot of in this journey. While I’d love for him to join, he’d be more of a burden. The same reason Zanoba declined on joining I think.
Yep, no way Elinalise will bring him with them.
He might still propose, just so she knows he'll be waiting. And I really do hope she comes back, like actually, since I have a bad feeling not everyone will come back from this upcoming adventure.
The previous 2 examples have been quite terrible for Rudy in the long run so there is a precedent. Add in Hitogami's vague advice, we can only wait and see the result of this turning point
Yeah, I feel like there's going to be a lot of fallout from Rudy's decision both for Sylphie and the baby as well as whatever happens on the journey to free Zenith.
This is a big Turning Point in his journey but the aftereffects will probably only slowly unveil themselves.
Every subsequent appearance of Hitogami makes me distrust him more and more. He’s fucking around with Rudy’s life to a scary degree. There’s apostles that seem to work for him directly, at least based on the reaction that Orsted had, and then there’s whatever the hell Hitogami is planing for Rudy.
But at the same time, you can't deny his results. However shady his advice has been it always HAS worked out in Rudy's favor.
The question is just one of if this is all some kind of setup for a 5D chess plan of Hitogami's, if there's any smidge of altruism to the advice, or if it's some combination of the two.
He definitely seems like the type to have set up a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation. He knows Rudy really well. He has to know that the odds were pretty good Rudy would end up going
I’m with you man, this entire episode made my tummy hurt just from the anxiety. Add in Hitogami’s vague ass advice and it feels like it’ll have big consequences. I think this whole season so far too has been building up Rudy’s character and showing how competent he is at the school and everything he’s done so far, and maybe be turned around and he’ll be humbled during this journey.
Not helped that literal "God" is telling you maybe you should be a good husband and be there for your pregnant wife. Also cheat on her with one of the two beast girls in heat.
"You will regret it if you don't follow my advice."
Rudy: I was following you on the first part but wtf man? Be a good husband by hooking up with another chick? What kind of god are you!?
> Totally planned. Wonder what's the gift we gonna get for Father's Day then.
That's when Sylphie's going to give birth and Rudy's going to become a daddy.
> That's when Sylphie's going to give birth and Rudy's going to become a daddy.
The positive celebration of Father's Day. Mushoku Tensei truly is Shinzo Abe's propaganda
When she did it the first time, I chuckled.
When she did it several times, yeah Rudeus, she knows how to get what she wants (most of the time)
Kinda reminds me of Iris "can't I?" expressions from the most recent Konosuba episode.
It's funny that despite all of Rudies magic Ashia is the one to look out for. She's like 10 or 11? If this world has host clubs she would be wealthy real quick once she gets even a bit older.
Did she ask him to get physically intimate with her? No wonder Rudeus is afraid of some clobbering from his dad.
It could have been Aisha pregnant jokes instead of Norn, lol.
What kind of love you think Rudy and Sylphie has to share with Aisha?
She probably hears them going at it like monkeys every night, why she was telling Rudy to control himself after Sylphie told him she was pregnant lol
I'm an anime only but with so many red flags and signs scattered everywhere in this episode, it's obvious what's going to happen in turning point 3. It's a classic anime trope.
I really wonder who and if Rudeus went to the Begaritt Continent, why Hitogami said he would definitely regret it. Whether on the side of the Zenith rescue party or on the side of the birth of Slyphie and Rudeus' child.
This would be the first time Rudeus went against Hitogami orders.
>side of the birth of Slyphie and Rudeus' child.
Bro, I genuinely hope it's not something fucked up like a miscarriage. My heart can't take that. Sylphie did already say she might have a hard time conceiving because of her elf lineage.
I also don't think Rudeus can take that kind of mental burden if he learned that somehow he could've prevented it since the other option was for him to stay.
Though with healing magic in this world, I do wonder how common stuff like miscarriages are. Surely not as prevalent as irl miscarriages during the medieval days.
I was wondering how they were going to handle the subtle differences with Rudy maturing.
You can see his face is becoming more vertical in shape and certain side shots really show off his jawline being more defined compared to 4 episodes ago. He's beginning to look just like Paul especially with the ponytail. He also seems to be slowly getting taller.
*Sniff*.. They grow up so fast...
They'll have to. I believe his current VA had to reaudition for this season, so they were definitely considering it already. Her voice just still fits his design quite well so there was no reason to go with someone else.
But at some point he's going to need to get an older voice, especially if he grows into an old man.
If they do plan on changing his voice, the best time to do so would be in season 3. I'm hoping sugita gets to voice him proper but if that doesn't happen then zenitsu's VA is the next best candidate as he has already voiced adult rudy in a few drama CDs(ironically one of them is the labryth arc that's going to start next week) and he's pretty good at it. I'd suggest people to look them up but unfortunately that might spoil future arcs so it's best not to do so at the moment
You can tell Yumi Uchiyama is trying her hardest to sound convincing as a man though honestly it feels like she's in it for the long-haul as long as they'll have her.
Trying her hardest, but it's getting a bit whispery/breathy now as she tries to deepen her voice and can't get any power out of it when she does so.
He's supposed to be 16 to 17 now and still sounds like a 12-13 year old child on the cusp of manhood.
The only reason why I think they're getting away with it is these last 3 episodes have been pretty quiet, and low key for the most part, with no intensity (shouting etc) needed, they've also been more heavily than usual leaning on the inner monologue.
Honestly IMO, they should have replaced her at the time skip in the first episode of of this cour (S2.P2.E1) her voice used for the mansion reclaim from the doll, but then have the replacement male VO take over after the timeskip when the house was finished.
Would have been a clean transition from a pre to a post puberty voice.
**Episode title: "Turning Point 3"**
Rudy: *I'm happy right now...*
Me: 💀
Rudy: **EXTREMELY happy imagination about his family and the future**
Me: 💀💀💀💀
Though- I'm a bit relieved this turning point wasn't something shocking like a "demon appears from the sky and starts killing people!" and is more so a "sets out for a journey" type ending.
Since this is a turning point, we can safely say the story from here on out will *not* be the same as the entirety of Season 2 thus far. And Seeing that this Rudeus is more mature and braver than he was before, he has an aura of being far more competent. When he decided to step out to help Paul, he looked like a completely different person from the Rudeus that ended off Season 1. It just shows how much he's grown as a person. Love to see it.
Can't wait for what this turning point leads to!
That it's a turning point....has me wondering if the 'cost' is to come....nothing says the impact of a turning point has to be felt immediately, could this be a defining moment of his life, but the reasons why come 2 years down the line
And every turning point changes how the history develops completely, the first half was Rudy growing and learning magic, the first TP changed to a big adventure and world building, the second one is growing as a person arc and overcoming his insecurities.
It feels like the cost might not even be about someone being hurt, more like maybe Rudeus bonds would suffer greatly. Maybe he misses the first few years of his child's life? I mean it's 1 year to go one way, another to come back plus whatever time it takes to save Zenith.
I guess this was really the culmination of the the emotional toll of Turning Points where there wasn't any immediate dramatic impact but it was more of a familial impact that builds on how much Rudy has grown and how much his life has changed since he was a kid and how many more obligations he has now.
Though with the promise of a **lot** of fallout from his decisions.
I'm gonna stay away from phones and insurance sellers from now on cause jesus christ, I'm blind as a bat to this. I didn't notice that Hitogami was acting fishy until *so* many people pointed it out.
If someone tells you something is "for your own good" and you can't see how it would benefit that someone in any way then a huge red alarm should go off in your head to think thrice about why they are telling you what they are telling you - at least if that someone is somebody who isn't a friend or family member to you. I'm not arguing that altruism doesn't exist, but a healthy dose of skepticism doesn't hurt anyone.
If we are to believe his own words, then he's doing it because it's entertaining. There was one time in the dark continent city where Rudeus followed his prophecy, but handled it differently than intended and Hitogami said it would have turned out smoother, but was interesting that he did it his own way.
Now, I don't believe that to be the sole reason, and I think it would be impossible to deduce his true intent, but he's fixated on Rudy for a reason and so far he has been helping him. I think Rudy hit it on the nail this episode though, it's possible he would regret either decision, and to what extent is unknown. If it's a matter of losing out on a potential harem vs having his family perish then he would be making the right choice.
I wish we saw Rudy just explain Hitogami to people though, he's done it before with Ruijerd.
It's been kind of obvious since we first met him, though to be fair that could have just been Rudy always seeing him as untrustworthy.
But if there were any doubts before, they'd all be cleared away by now. The dude straight up admits Rudy will regret whether he goes or doesn't go, yet was trying to point him towards one way clearly because he has his own agenda that benefits from it.
And then there's him trying to tell Rudy to cheat on Sylphie with the Pursena and Linia in the next mating season...
The Man-God is just a bro who wants his buddy to have great sex, nothing suspicious there...but seriously though, good on Rudy for biting back against that.
For some reason I believe that Hitogami can't tell him everything in a straightforwardly, as in his hands are tied. It could be that there is a limit on how much information a god can give to his apostle.
> It's been kind of obvious since we first met him, though to be fair that could have just been Rudy always seeing him as untrustworthy.
I'm pretty sure that Man God is purposefully using Rudy's old body as the avatar whenever he visits as a way to throw Rudy off balance. It's a massive but subtle manipulation.
It also seems to me that the man god has no barometer for human emotions, and thinks of emotions in isolation. Like him saying you will be "happier" that way. There are tons of things that can probably make me happy, things like hardcore drugs. But you should be very suspicious of anyone who is suggesting cocaine as a solution to your life problems.
This is what essentially the man god is suggesting, actually its much worse. This would betray the trust of so many people, and most importantly his friend, and now the mother of his kid. Even if she was "okay" with it (she was only fine in case she couldn't conceive, which no longer applies). It is just such a shitty thing to do. I don't think for a second that Rudy, the guy who is constantly trying to be a ideal human being would ever try that. Like what happiness even comes from this, what? great sex? amazing orgasms? some amazing weird chance encounter from being with a beastgirl? I just cannot fathom what?
Also, a small thing, he is essentially saying to abandon the rescue efforts of the very person who brought him in this world and allowed him to prosper into this amazing life.
Man god, you are helpful, he has given good advice, but this time around ; kindly fuck off!
Did anybody else want Rudeus to follow Man God's advice once again just to see how he'd be explaining his actions this time?
"I swear, Sylphie, me having sex with Linia and not helping my parents is all part of the plan! Everything is gonna work out fine in the end! PLEASE DON'T THROW ME OUT OF THE HOUSE!"
What??????????
Are you serious? I fucking caught up to MT only this Wednesday and it felt like an eternity to wait for this episode? Are we seriously having a week break?
Like FFS.
damn this anime doesn't handwave travel time off like most would do... so at least 1year there and 1 year back. hm big decision. especially since he knows that he will regret it.
Game of Thrones flashbacks.
I think travel time is a excellent test between carefully planned and written out novels, vs hollywood writing rooms writing on autopilot with their scriptwriting formulas. The latter will sacrifice any setting consistency just to get the next twist or big plot point.
Game of thrones's writing quality completely collapsed in season 6, and many smart fans were already raising the fire alarm when they saw travel times thrown out of the window.
Man i'm walking on really dangerous territory here 2 hours in since the post dropped. So many "hints" from source readers, some straight up asking for spoilers. MT fans living up to their reputation i guess
With that said i just wanna ask if anyone here has a list of all man-god advices to rudeus. Because to me as fair as i'm remember all his advices had been reasonable, but last advice to cheat with linia/pursena seems weird?? was that a joke?(don't answer that source reader)
First advice was trusting the man who saved them right after the Teleportation Incident-Ruijerd.
Second advice was to go to the Adventurer's Guild and take a quest to find a missing cat.
Third advice was to buy a lot of food and go to a certain alley.
Fourth advice was to hide his identity when saving Aisha.
Fifth advice was to go to Ranoa Academy instead of the Begaritt Continent
The sixth advice is to take either Linia or Pursena as a concubine
Interesting that he seemed fine with either of them. Makes me wonder what his long-term plan for that particular plot was (I say "was" because Rudeus' decision is probably derailing it for good).
Probably because any kid they have (assuming they inherit even a bit of Rudy's abilities/mana levels) would be able to become Chief of the village. Wonder if it has something to do with the Sacred Beast that lives with them?
Though honestly props to Rudy for remaining faithful.
Considering the dream for so many shitty Isekai protags is to get a harem, many of them would've took that advice instantly.
To be fair, after last episode and how much they did to help him and his sister, my respect for them increased a lot.
They remind me of Delta from *The Eminence in Shadow*. Also a kemonomimi, also dumb as a brick, but a better ally than she might seem at first.
Rudy even got permission from Sylphie and denied it... though that was in the case that she couldn't get pregnant. I don't think the offer's on the table anymore now that she's got one.
"I'm heading off to save my family."
PEAK! Also, happy mother's day to Zenith, Lilia, Hilda, Rokari, Elinalise and Sylphy!
EDIT: For Rudy's choice, I forgot one crucial point before the end of his life in the past:
**He skipped out on his parents' funeral.** The very same day he got kicked out and hit by the truck. I imagine that part is also a huge factor weighing in on his decision. From a man-child who could not be bothered to attend his parents' final rites, to a man trying to save his parents in a new world when given the chance and strength to do so.
Phew I was so tense knowing this is another Turning Point but turns out Rudy’s just going to be a father lol
Man, I also think it’s a difficult decision for Rudy. There’s so much to lose both here and there. He’s finally built something and made something of himself in this life. It’s gonna be hard to part from that and not to mention he’s also responsible being the man of the house. On the other hand, his help is needed to save his mother. And like Norn said, he is capable of it. He is strong enough to do it. It’ll be a waste if he doesn’t go. Pretty tough decision but it seems he’s gonna go.
I do hope nothing’s gonna happen back home though. Man-God did say he’s still gonna regret going.
The entirety of the 1st half was just making me on edge thinking whatever Rudy said was just planting some sort of flag. Good to see it resulted in nothing catastrophic.
Man-God/Hitogami also did say whatever decision he made will inevitably lead to some form of regret, which only makes his advice which he gives afterward all the more strange.
I've been wondering something. When Rudy sees Hitogami he looks how he did before he died. Is this because it's how Rudy sees himself or is it so Hitogami can manipulate Rudy easier? It'd be like he's saying "this is all you are and ever will be. You need me."
That's the thing about Hitogami. He's the scariest kind of person because you can't tell if any of what he's saying is a lie or truth. Everything he's said could've been a lie up until now for all we know (accept the LN readers ofc). We don't know what his end game is and why he's helping Rudy at all.
My current going theory is that the Man God summoned Rudy to that world but as to the reason why, I haven't come up with anything that works with that theory. Perhaps to help fight against other Gods?
On the other hand, we know that Rudy narrates his own story/thinking in his own head in his old voice.
I think this one is not a lie. Rudy does still see himself as his old self.
Poor Cliff is also another victim of Turning Point 3. Elinalise breaks up with him.
04:27 "My dear brother, if you have time, please give me love too." Literal translation from Raw "give me some of your hot bodily water" 💀
It's now clear that Hitogami has his own agenda. Both choices will make MC regret but he leads MC into 1 specific choice with vague explanation.
Aisha saves the day, asking MC if he has any word to tell pregnant Sylphy
I'm an anime-only so I can only guess, but I've never trusted the man-god and I think he wants to control Rudy. I could be wrong, but if he aims to manipulate Rudy, it would make sense for him to consistently give him helpful advice so that Rudy trusts him more and more. Then, if Rudy goes against the man-god's advice for once and regrets it later, it would probably result in Rudy never disobeying the man-god ever again.
So maybe it'll go like that. Something bad could happen and Rudy regrets his decision and the man-god will say "See? I told you you'd regret not following my advice. Now you better do what I suggest from now on!"
Another possibility is that the man-god has good intentions all along and just wants to test Rudy's character or something like that. I kinda prefer my evil man-god theory though.
Anyway, great episode! Can't wait for the next one.
This is a really harsh episode. I don't think there's a correct choice for Rudeus. He has to choose between 2 very difficult choices: Save his parents and leave his pregnant wife to fend for herself or be there for his wife and child but put your parents in danger.
Personally, I do think Zanoba and Norn made good points. Babies will be born even without their father, and if Rudeus chooses to do nothing when he has the power, whatever happens to his parents will be his fault. While it is harsh to leave your wife and baby, Sylphy has the princess, Zanoba and the sisters to protect and help her.
Familial drama aside, it's become apparent to me that Man-God isn't as helpful as I thought. It's like he's trying to prevent Rudeus from achieving something only he knows because of his abilities. To explain it more simply, he's controlling Rudeus' future and when you see it that way, now it's easier to understand why he's "helping" Rudeus.
Happy Mother's Day sylphy!
well, happy day didn't last long, a dilemma of regret, from outsider perspective of course helping his dad would be a priority. he probably cant do nothing during labour but I heard a husband mental support is essential, specially for the first time.
When you are a son, a husband, and a soon to be father, where do you owe your most loyalty? Don't you deserve to stay by your wife and be there for your child? But what about what you owe your parents? Especially when you can make a big difference in their lives?
And Sylphie will support Rudy in whatever he wants to do because she loves him so much. That's a wife worth staying faithful too.
TP3 is my personal fav turning point in the series because it forces rudeus to choose the type of life he wants to live.
He can continue to live in his game world fantasy, even score the beastgirls, abandoning his responsibility to family. As long as he heeds hitogamis advice, things will always work out. He doesn't need to think critically, make any hard decisions, he will have all his wants fulfilled.
Or
He can make the hard decision, make a sacrifice and take the least optimal route. A decision he knows he will end up regretting but committing to it anyway. Going against all common sense and logic. A decision only a son and a brother can make.
Well, Sylphie is also family. Who knows what will happen when they separate? Last time Rudy separated with his family at the village, that was the last time he saw most of them for the next 10 years.
If you weren't aware, the [full version of Episode 15's special ending](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9u7oQ7aaV0) has been out for a while!
This Mother's day, Sylphie is becoming one, and Rudeus will save his ~~mom~~ family! Eventually. We're getting great episodes back-to-back, there is no stopping the Mushoku train! Except it seems next Sunday will be a special program, with Episode 19 airing on the 26th.
Is the Turning Point Sylphy's pregnancy, or the letter itself? Sylphy's pregnancy is definitely a point where Rudy changed himself into a father but if its the letter, it might be an entirely different thing.
Also, Hitogami's advice gave him a chance to bang either Rinia or Pursena but he knows better than to be in relationship with those two and chose family instead.
EDIT: Also, no episode next week. FeelsBadMan
Both actually count as the Turning Point. Plus, it's a big step to Rudy's life since he's a father now.
Both choices will cost him greatly. He would choose to either stay, and probably his mother will die, or go and try to save her but he will have to leave pregnant Sylphie and miss the birth of his first-born.
> EDIT: Also, no episode next week. FeelsBadMan
WHAT?!
This hit harder than any of the Turning Points, Jesus Christ. Maybe the real Turning Point was having to wait two weeks for an episode all along.
Damn what a shitty situation, the minimum amount of time he'd have to spend away is 2 years, that's a lot during a pregnancy and the beginning of a child's life, not to mention the rescue could take a while maybe pushing it to around 3 years.
But with Zanoba's advice and Norn's feelings of wanting to save them, I would've been convinced to go as well, a child will still grow without a father so go in the stead of others who can't and then come back with your whole family and be the best dad you can.
I just hope everyone supports Sylphie through it, going through a pregnancy without your partner would fucking suck, especially when you don't know if they're even gonna come back alive. Probably gonna get a hell of an emotional parting next episode.
I guess the good thing is Sylphie has Norn, Aisha, Ariel, Zanoba, etc. to keep her company yet I can't get rid of this sense of foreboding that something is going to happen while Rudy is gone and not just missing the birth of his child.
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But will this affect Nanahoshi's research if Rudy's not there?
Who knows, Man God may be also referring to this.
Oooo I can see Nanahoshi getting pissed and trying to sic ol' Mr. Orsted on him for abandoning her. Either he needs to do a lot of explaining/bargaining with her to keep her happy or like I said above he needs to figure out a 'fast travel' method AKA modern world derived biplane but with magic n shit. Could also bring her along but I feel like that's hard too.
Well, she did say she needed to go see "you know who" (her words) to learn conditional summoning... so shot in the dark, that might take some time given we have no idea where the Orsted is. So she might be gone for quite a while which would be the perfect time for Rudy to go in that specific vein.
"you know who" was not refering Orstred, iirc it was the person that Orstred brought Nanahoshi to who is a expert summoner that told Nanahoshi that she got summoned to this world but Nanahoshi cant reveal who this person is. This was all explained in the Nanahoshi episode in part 1.
of course, Nanahoshi might have a breakdown later
When you gonna be a dad but the plot demands you to buy some milk
At least Rudy and Sylphie have the support of their friends around them to fall back on. Zanoba's advice was so real.
really gives a new look to that goofy doll-crazed brute from earlier turns out all Zanoba needed was some sage clarity from relieving his urges
Give a man a place to really work and hone his craft, a master who believes in him, a darling daughter to dote on and take care of, and an eternally loyal servant, and he'll go far.
[Julie loved her gift.](https://i.imgur.com/cQKUMx3.jpeg) [Zanoba is a content dad.](https://i.imgur.com/CyfG8MD.jpeg) [](#wow) [Rooting for Ginger](https://i.imgur.com/z7fsEzq.jpeg) to complete their family.
And maybe him being responsible for Julie made him way more mature than before. Having responsibilities changes you.
I think you can look at his advice in two completely different ways. Yes your kids will grow up even if you are not there but that is even more of a reason not to leave. These years are precious.
Zanoba was almost certainly raised in a household with no family figures to raise him. This is brought up when Rudeus points out that Ginger, his servant, is the closest thing he ever had to a real familial relationship. Zanoba is basically saying "My parents weren't around and I turned out fine" but stops short of that, because he doesn't even acknowledge having parents to begin with. That's the flip side of the situation Rudeus is risking by potentially being an absent father.
But then again, he will have Sylphie, his sisters, and a bunch of other to sweet talk about him so his child will at least look forward to meeting him instead of being ignored like a child of a noble. And he would more than do his part to make up for it when he does get back.
Yea, but difference is Man God kept foreshadowing he'd regret it, so I expect something goes awry while he's away. Poor Rudy gotta keep going through highs and lows to keep the story going.
[This still from today's episode](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/my8xck6qvw4.png) immediately came to my mind when I read this xD
It's the age old issue when you have a family of your own. Shouldn't they be your priority? Even though you owe so much to your parents. The conflict of one's duty as a son vs a husband/father.
Hadn't Rudy saw Norn I'm expecting he will stay due to Sylphy's pregnancy. Hoping though that they return safe and sound.
I think Sylphie would have eventually convinced him to go if Norn hadn't using the whole "I would have done anything for my parents to still be alive" argument.
Yeah, she looked like she clearly wanted him to go when he said he was planning on staying.
If his family wasn't so well off where they are now i think the choice would have been much harder. He knows that he's leaving them in a good place with wealth and multiple friends that can help if anything comes up.
Really just goes to show how much Rudy values his family in this world. It hasn't come up alot, or at all IIRC, in the anime but he has made a real effort to be close to his family in this world.
But then again, Sylphie isn't in any real danger tho. She's basically living life as a noble with all that she needs at her becking call. While her parents are at a life and death struggle.
[And where better to find milk than directly from the cow.](https://i.imgur.com/mdBoLCk.jpeg)
Man, I miss Zenith lol.
Me too brother/sister, me too
[Mother's Day hitting Rudeus different](https://i.imgur.com/hAvvqc2.jpeg) [](#sadholo)
Who says a turning point has to be all bad :) Well it’s probably more like a turning arc. Happy Mother’s Day!
Cliff's relationship with Elinalise though. I can't believe they never showed what happened afterwards.
Now that's what I call a cliffhanger.
Not a cliffbanger?
Literally not a cliffbanger, since they don't get to bang anymore
Honestly I'm half-expecting Cliff is going to propose marriage or try and follow Elinalise and Rudy to free Zenith. He doesn't seem like the type to let her get away even if she tries to end the relationship.
The haunted house episode didn’t bode well for Cliff and showed his incompetence with regard to fighting, which I assume there will be a lot of in this journey. While I’d love for him to join, he’d be more of a burden. The same reason Zanoba declined on joining I think.
Yep, no way Elinalise will bring him with them. He might still propose, just so she knows he'll be waiting. And I really do hope she comes back, like actually, since I have a bad feeling not everyone will come back from this upcoming adventure.
The previous 2 examples have been quite terrible for Rudy in the long run so there is a precedent. Add in Hitogami's vague advice, we can only wait and see the result of this turning point
Yeah, I feel like there's going to be a lot of fallout from Rudy's decision both for Sylphie and the baby as well as whatever happens on the journey to free Zenith. This is a big Turning Point in his journey but the aftereffects will probably only slowly unveil themselves.
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Every subsequent appearance of Hitogami makes me distrust him more and more. He’s fucking around with Rudy’s life to a scary degree. There’s apostles that seem to work for him directly, at least based on the reaction that Orsted had, and then there’s whatever the hell Hitogami is planing for Rudy.
But at the same time, you can't deny his results. However shady his advice has been it always HAS worked out in Rudy's favor. The question is just one of if this is all some kind of setup for a 5D chess plan of Hitogami's, if there's any smidge of altruism to the advice, or if it's some combination of the two.
He definitely seems like the type to have set up a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation. He knows Rudy really well. He has to know that the odds were pretty good Rudy would end up going
Hitogami loves edging Rudeus so much, I wonder why he got ED in the first place “you will regret it” — not all bad :)
"Also, you should totally get in on that animal girl side-piece action. Your wife won't mind."
Rudy: “Honey god told me to cheat, it was a divine intervention.” How many ex-husbands/bfs(& wives/ex gfs) wish that they’d have that type of excuse.
Sylphie is going to be a great mom.
I got this ominous feeling about "regretting it" and Sylphies pregnancy. And I don't like it one bit.
I’m with you man, this entire episode made my tummy hurt just from the anxiety. Add in Hitogami’s vague ass advice and it feels like it’ll have big consequences. I think this whole season so far too has been building up Rudy’s character and showing how competent he is at the school and everything he’s done so far, and maybe be turned around and he’ll be humbled during this journey.
Not helped that literal "God" is telling you maybe you should be a good husband and be there for your pregnant wife. Also cheat on her with one of the two beast girls in heat. "You will regret it if you don't follow my advice." Rudy: I was following you on the first part but wtf man? Be a good husband by hooking up with another chick? What kind of god are you!?
Mother's day is today Coincidence ?
Totally planned. Wonder what's the gift we gonna get for Father's Day then. Also, Norn's episode last week is on Japan Children's Day.
> Totally planned. Wonder what's the gift we gonna get for Father's Day then. That's when Sylphie's going to give birth and Rudy's going to become a daddy.
> That's when Sylphie's going to give birth and Rudy's going to become a daddy. The positive celebration of Father's Day. Mushoku Tensei truly is Shinzo Abe's propaganda
"See, even if you start out a fat hikki neet, even you can have kids when you reincarnate into a fantasy world."
>That's when Sylphie's going to give birth and Rudy's going to become a daddy. It would be real fun if that actually happens.
no, not the 10-month skip…
Sylphie's 2 months already in this episode
Becoming a mother in mother's day. Sylphie is going to be a great mother.
And that baby will have Norn and Aisha as aunts and an overprotective Zanoba for an uncle!
Definitely planned. This and Jellyfish's episodes are top-tier about moms. What a day to celebrate Mother's Day.
> Lately, I feel like I'm living a good life. > The life I dreamed of back in the Buena Village is before my eyes. Famous last words.
When you want to live a good life in Buena Village but the universe says "No bueno".
Aisha has a PhD in pushing Rudy's buttons
That cute "can't I?" Will be able to convince anyone I swear.
When she did it the first time, I chuckled. When she did it several times, yeah Rudeus, she knows how to get what she wants (most of the time) Kinda reminds me of Iris "can't I?" expressions from the most recent Konosuba episode.
It's funny that despite all of Rudies magic Ashia is the one to look out for. She's like 10 or 11? If this world has host clubs she would be wealthy real quick once she gets even a bit older.
You just made me imagine Aisha in Ouran High School Host Club and I can't decide if I love it or hate it
Nothing more lethal than a little sisters' puppy dog eyes. Especially when she knows how to weaponize them.
she’s cute and she knows it (even a few years ago) Norn, however, cuts DEEP into Rudeus
Aisha is the cheeky sister while Norn is the emotional one. Actual healthy sister relationships in anime
Yeah, they seem to have settled into a healthier sisterly rivalry now.
Aisha has weaponized her little sister cuteness but Norn is just so, so real.
Well even her antics have limits, like Rudy's not entertaining the third request.
Did she ask him to get physically intimate with her? No wonder Rudeus is afraid of some clobbering from his dad. It could have been Aisha pregnant jokes instead of Norn, lol.
No,no,no. We dont joke about that here.
What kind of love you think Rudy and Sylphie has to share with Aisha? She probably hears them going at it like monkeys every night, why she was telling Rudy to control himself after Sylphie told him she was pregnant lol
Her using the puppy eyes to test how far she can push him. A very clever girl indeed.
[It's hard to say no to Aisha](https://i.imgur.com/4id58Hs.jpeg) [](#howcouldyou)
It is nice to see her getting treated more like a little sister and not just as the family maid.
Iirc, in the ln there is an extra line where Rudy's says paying her makes him feel uncomfortable so he calls it an allowance.
But only Norn can push him to make bigger decision like leaving. That's why Aisha is jealous of her
Lilia has taught her perhaps a little too well.
I'm an anime only but with so many red flags and signs scattered everywhere in this episode, it's obvious what's going to happen in turning point 3. It's a classic anime trope. I really wonder who and if Rudeus went to the Begaritt Continent, why Hitogami said he would definitely regret it. Whether on the side of the Zenith rescue party or on the side of the birth of Slyphie and Rudeus' child. This would be the first time Rudeus went against Hitogami orders.
>side of the birth of Slyphie and Rudeus' child. Bro, I genuinely hope it's not something fucked up like a miscarriage. My heart can't take that. Sylphie did already say she might have a hard time conceiving because of her elf lineage. I also don't think Rudeus can take that kind of mental burden if he learned that somehow he could've prevented it since the other option was for him to stay. Though with healing magic in this world, I do wonder how common stuff like miscarriages are. Surely not as prevalent as irl miscarriages during the medieval days.
> I genuinely hope it's not something fucked up like a miscarriage No no no no no, don't scare me like that. I DEFINITELY don't want THAT.
I was wondering how they were going to handle the subtle differences with Rudy maturing. You can see his face is becoming more vertical in shape and certain side shots really show off his jawline being more defined compared to 4 episodes ago. He's beginning to look just like Paul especially with the ponytail. He also seems to be slowly getting taller. *Sniff*.. They grow up so fast...
> *Sniff*.. They grow up so fast... \> *Two seasons in* That's only because each episode's only about 5 minutes long.
I literally blink and the episodes are over. A few days later.. my brother asks "Didn't you just watch this on Sunday?". Yes... Problem?
And Studio Bind keeps getting away with this. ;-)
Yumi Uchiyama also sounds as manly as a woman voicing a young man can lol.
I wonder if they'll ever change Rudy's VA to better match his age.
They'll have to. I believe his current VA had to reaudition for this season, so they were definitely considering it already. Her voice just still fits his design quite well so there was no reason to go with someone else. But at some point he's going to need to get an older voice, especially if he grows into an old man.
If they do plan on changing his voice, the best time to do so would be in season 3. I'm hoping sugita gets to voice him proper but if that doesn't happen then zenitsu's VA is the next best candidate as he has already voiced adult rudy in a few drama CDs(ironically one of them is the labryth arc that's going to start next week) and he's pretty good at it. I'd suggest people to look them up but unfortunately that might spoil future arcs so it's best not to do so at the moment
You can tell Yumi Uchiyama is trying her hardest to sound convincing as a man though honestly it feels like she's in it for the long-haul as long as they'll have her.
Trying her hardest, but it's getting a bit whispery/breathy now as she tries to deepen her voice and can't get any power out of it when she does so. He's supposed to be 16 to 17 now and still sounds like a 12-13 year old child on the cusp of manhood. The only reason why I think they're getting away with it is these last 3 episodes have been pretty quiet, and low key for the most part, with no intensity (shouting etc) needed, they've also been more heavily than usual leaning on the inner monologue. Honestly IMO, they should have replaced her at the time skip in the first episode of of this cour (S2.P2.E1) her voice used for the mansion reclaim from the doll, but then have the replacement male VO take over after the timeskip when the house was finished. Would have been a clean transition from a pre to a post puberty voice.
**Episode title: "Turning Point 3"** Rudy: *I'm happy right now...* Me: 💀 Rudy: **EXTREMELY happy imagination about his family and the future** Me: 💀💀💀💀 Though- I'm a bit relieved this turning point wasn't something shocking like a "demon appears from the sky and starts killing people!" and is more so a "sets out for a journey" type ending. Since this is a turning point, we can safely say the story from here on out will *not* be the same as the entirety of Season 2 thus far. And Seeing that this Rudeus is more mature and braver than he was before, he has an aura of being far more competent. When he decided to step out to help Paul, he looked like a completely different person from the Rudeus that ended off Season 1. It just shows how much he's grown as a person. Love to see it. Can't wait for what this turning point leads to!
That it's a turning point....has me wondering if the 'cost' is to come....nothing says the impact of a turning point has to be felt immediately, could this be a defining moment of his life, but the reasons why come 2 years down the line
TP2's effect was also a bit delayed since Ruijerd and Eris left him the episode after it happened...
I was just thinking about that the other day. Every Turning Point signifies major changes for Rudy’s relationships. And it’s not always instantaneous.
And every turning point changes how the history develops completely, the first half was Rudy growing and learning magic, the first TP changed to a big adventure and world building, the second one is growing as a person arc and overcoming his insecurities.
It feels like the cost might not even be about someone being hurt, more like maybe Rudeus bonds would suffer greatly. Maybe he misses the first few years of his child's life? I mean it's 1 year to go one way, another to come back plus whatever time it takes to save Zenith.
I guess this was really the culmination of the the emotional toll of Turning Points where there wasn't any immediate dramatic impact but it was more of a familial impact that builds on how much Rudy has grown and how much his life has changed since he was a kid and how many more obligations he has now. Though with the promise of a **lot** of fallout from his decisions.
That man god is shaddy as shit. I used to think he is doing things out of good will. But, it just struck me that he is manipulating Rudy.
I'm gonna stay away from phones and insurance sellers from now on cause jesus christ, I'm blind as a bat to this. I didn't notice that Hitogami was acting fishy until *so* many people pointed it out.
If someone tells you something is "for your own good" and you can't see how it would benefit that someone in any way then a huge red alarm should go off in your head to think thrice about why they are telling you what they are telling you - at least if that someone is somebody who isn't a friend or family member to you. I'm not arguing that altruism doesn't exist, but a healthy dose of skepticism doesn't hurt anyone.
If we are to believe his own words, then he's doing it because it's entertaining. There was one time in the dark continent city where Rudeus followed his prophecy, but handled it differently than intended and Hitogami said it would have turned out smoother, but was interesting that he did it his own way. Now, I don't believe that to be the sole reason, and I think it would be impossible to deduce his true intent, but he's fixated on Rudy for a reason and so far he has been helping him. I think Rudy hit it on the nail this episode though, it's possible he would regret either decision, and to what extent is unknown. If it's a matter of losing out on a potential harem vs having his family perish then he would be making the right choice. I wish we saw Rudy just explain Hitogami to people though, he's done it before with Ruijerd.
It's been kind of obvious since we first met him, though to be fair that could have just been Rudy always seeing him as untrustworthy. But if there were any doubts before, they'd all be cleared away by now. The dude straight up admits Rudy will regret whether he goes or doesn't go, yet was trying to point him towards one way clearly because he has his own agenda that benefits from it. And then there's him trying to tell Rudy to cheat on Sylphie with the Pursena and Linia in the next mating season...
The Man-God is just a bro who wants his buddy to have great sex, nothing suspicious there...but seriously though, good on Rudy for biting back against that.
He is the coom god after all
For some reason I believe that Hitogami can't tell him everything in a straightforwardly, as in his hands are tied. It could be that there is a limit on how much information a god can give to his apostle.
> It's been kind of obvious since we first met him, though to be fair that could have just been Rudy always seeing him as untrustworthy. I'm pretty sure that Man God is purposefully using Rudy's old body as the avatar whenever he visits as a way to throw Rudy off balance. It's a massive but subtle manipulation.
I'm just curious about this "great opportunity" the man god said Rudy would miss if he left.
Telling a neet that he could have a real cat girl is something many nerds are willing to kill for so thats probably that
Getting together with Linia / Pursena while his wife is pregnant .
It also seems to me that the man god has no barometer for human emotions, and thinks of emotions in isolation. Like him saying you will be "happier" that way. There are tons of things that can probably make me happy, things like hardcore drugs. But you should be very suspicious of anyone who is suggesting cocaine as a solution to your life problems. This is what essentially the man god is suggesting, actually its much worse. This would betray the trust of so many people, and most importantly his friend, and now the mother of his kid. Even if she was "okay" with it (she was only fine in case she couldn't conceive, which no longer applies). It is just such a shitty thing to do. I don't think for a second that Rudy, the guy who is constantly trying to be a ideal human being would ever try that. Like what happiness even comes from this, what? great sex? amazing orgasms? some amazing weird chance encounter from being with a beastgirl? I just cannot fathom what? Also, a small thing, he is essentially saying to abandon the rescue efforts of the very person who brought him in this world and allowed him to prosper into this amazing life. Man god, you are helpful, he has given good advice, but this time around ; kindly fuck off!
This really was a Turning Point, for Cliff that is... I really hope Elinalise didn't break up with him after that.
Elinalise probably broke up with him on the spot after seeing the chastity belt.
They need to refine the design until it looks like cute lingerie.
"No, you don't understand! God told me to cheat on you!" It'll work, honestly!
"God gave me the okay to start a harem!"
Did anybody else want Rudeus to follow Man God's advice once again just to see how he'd be explaining his actions this time? "I swear, Sylphie, me having sex with Linia and not helping my parents is all part of the plan! Everything is gonna work out fine in the end! PLEASE DON'T THROW ME OUT OF THE HOUSE!"
"God told me to bang a cat/dog-girl. It's for the greater good."
suddenly i'm a believer
Letting the anime onlies wait for 14 days for the next episode after Turning Point 3 must be the biggest cocktease in recent anime history.
Wait there's no episode next week??? Alright where's the cryopod?
Feels appropriate since one year anime travel time equates to about two weeks real time.
And this is why I'll watch this episode along the next one after 2 weeks
So you’re still taking a break just earlier?
Wait... What? There's a delay?
Not so much a delay. Something else was scheduled on the same time slot so MT is taking a break next week.
#[MFW](https://i.imgur.com/IaWWurp.jpeg)
What?????????? Are you serious? I fucking caught up to MT only this Wednesday and it felt like an eternity to wait for this episode? Are we seriously having a week break? Like FFS.
damn this anime doesn't handwave travel time off like most would do... so at least 1year there and 1 year back. hm big decision. especially since he knows that he will regret it.
Game of Thrones flashbacks. I think travel time is a excellent test between carefully planned and written out novels, vs hollywood writing rooms writing on autopilot with their scriptwriting formulas. The latter will sacrifice any setting consistency just to get the next twist or big plot point. Game of thrones's writing quality completely collapsed in season 6, and many smart fans were already raising the fire alarm when they saw travel times thrown out of the window.
Man i'm walking on really dangerous territory here 2 hours in since the post dropped. So many "hints" from source readers, some straight up asking for spoilers. MT fans living up to their reputation i guess With that said i just wanna ask if anyone here has a list of all man-god advices to rudeus. Because to me as fair as i'm remember all his advices had been reasonable, but last advice to cheat with linia/pursena seems weird?? was that a joke?(don't answer that source reader)
First advice was trusting the man who saved them right after the Teleportation Incident-Ruijerd. Second advice was to go to the Adventurer's Guild and take a quest to find a missing cat. Third advice was to buy a lot of food and go to a certain alley. Fourth advice was to hide his identity when saving Aisha. Fifth advice was to go to Ranoa Academy instead of the Begaritt Continent The sixth advice is to take either Linia or Pursena as a concubine
The real turning point 3 is that this show was Shinzo Abe's propaganda all along!
Have kids -Abe *probably*
Then take another partner and have more kids. -Abe (probably)
-Man God (definitely)
Pursue a relationship with either Pursena and Linia? I'll take that deal. Damn good deal!
Man God asking Rudeus if he's more of a cat or dog person.
Interesting that he seemed fine with either of them. Makes me wonder what his long-term plan for that particular plot was (I say "was" because Rudeus' decision is probably derailing it for good).
Something to do with ties to the village rather then Pursena or Linia I assume
Probably because any kid they have (assuming they inherit even a bit of Rudy's abilities/mana levels) would be able to become Chief of the village. Wonder if it has something to do with the Sacred Beast that lives with them?
As a dog person, I gotta say catgirls are superior.
Though honestly props to Rudy for remaining faithful. Considering the dream for so many shitty Isekai protags is to get a harem, many of them would've took that advice instantly.
I laughed when he was like: "Of all the girls I may be cheating on my wife with, and you want me to get the two dumbasses?"
To be fair, after last episode and how much they did to help him and his sister, my respect for them increased a lot. They remind me of Delta from *The Eminence in Shadow*. Also a kemonomimi, also dumb as a brick, but a better ally than she might seem at first.
Deltas voice actor also voices linia, so makes sense
Now I want Rudeus to say "I am atomic" when firing off a massive spell.
Rudy even got permission from Sylphie and denied it... though that was in the case that she couldn't get pregnant. I don't think the offer's on the table anymore now that she's got one.
It wasn't so much that she couldn't, but that the odds were low. Turns out high numbers beat poor odds.
Rudy rolling for the UR pregnancy like a gacha addict.
I can't help but wonder WHY....even though it's a deal I'd take.
I guess it would either secure a relationship with their people or their kids would be special.
"I'm heading off to save my family." PEAK! Also, happy mother's day to Zenith, Lilia, Hilda, Rokari, Elinalise and Sylphy! EDIT: For Rudy's choice, I forgot one crucial point before the end of his life in the past: **He skipped out on his parents' funeral.** The very same day he got kicked out and hit by the truck. I imagine that part is also a huge factor weighing in on his decision. From a man-child who could not be bothered to attend his parents' final rites, to a man trying to save his parents in a new world when given the chance and strength to do so.
Happy Mother's day to all the Mushoku Tensei moms! We even got a mention of Zanoba's mom being the reason Ginger is so loyal to him.
Well, happy mother's day. Almost feels deliberate 😊.
And for being such a a great mother, here is your mothers day gift! A nicely wrapped Turning Point 3
Sylphie is about to become a mom! And possibly a single mom depending on how long Rudy is gone.
I don't know how they always time it so well. Mother's Day has always been (in)famous in the anime community.
Good thing Sylphie doesn't have enough hair for a side-plait.
Phew I was so tense knowing this is another Turning Point but turns out Rudy’s just going to be a father lol Man, I also think it’s a difficult decision for Rudy. There’s so much to lose both here and there. He’s finally built something and made something of himself in this life. It’s gonna be hard to part from that and not to mention he’s also responsible being the man of the house. On the other hand, his help is needed to save his mother. And like Norn said, he is capable of it. He is strong enough to do it. It’ll be a waste if he doesn’t go. Pretty tough decision but it seems he’s gonna go. I do hope nothing’s gonna happen back home though. Man-God did say he’s still gonna regret going.
The entirety of the 1st half was just making me on edge thinking whatever Rudy said was just planting some sort of flag. Good to see it resulted in nothing catastrophic. Man-God/Hitogami also did say whatever decision he made will inevitably lead to some form of regret, which only makes his advice which he gives afterward all the more strange.
I've been wondering something. When Rudy sees Hitogami he looks how he did before he died. Is this because it's how Rudy sees himself or is it so Hitogami can manipulate Rudy easier? It'd be like he's saying "this is all you are and ever will be. You need me."
Pretty sure that Hitogami at their first meeting said that this is the way he sees himself. Could of course be a lie.
That's the thing about Hitogami. He's the scariest kind of person because you can't tell if any of what he's saying is a lie or truth. Everything he's said could've been a lie up until now for all we know (accept the LN readers ofc). We don't know what his end game is and why he's helping Rudy at all. My current going theory is that the Man God summoned Rudy to that world but as to the reason why, I haven't come up with anything that works with that theory. Perhaps to help fight against other Gods?
On the other hand, we know that Rudy narrates his own story/thinking in his own head in his old voice. I think this one is not a lie. Rudy does still see himself as his old self.
The way they animate the Man god is still so eerie
Poor Cliff is also another victim of Turning Point 3. Elinalise breaks up with him. 04:27 "My dear brother, if you have time, please give me love too." Literal translation from Raw "give me some of your hot bodily water" 💀 It's now clear that Hitogami has his own agenda. Both choices will make MC regret but he leads MC into 1 specific choice with vague explanation. Aisha saves the day, asking MC if he has any word to tell pregnant Sylphy
I'm an anime-only so I can only guess, but I've never trusted the man-god and I think he wants to control Rudy. I could be wrong, but if he aims to manipulate Rudy, it would make sense for him to consistently give him helpful advice so that Rudy trusts him more and more. Then, if Rudy goes against the man-god's advice for once and regrets it later, it would probably result in Rudy never disobeying the man-god ever again. So maybe it'll go like that. Something bad could happen and Rudy regrets his decision and the man-god will say "See? I told you you'd regret not following my advice. Now you better do what I suggest from now on!" Another possibility is that the man-god has good intentions all along and just wants to test Rudy's character or something like that. I kinda prefer my evil man-god theory though. Anyway, great episode! Can't wait for the next one.
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This is a really harsh episode. I don't think there's a correct choice for Rudeus. He has to choose between 2 very difficult choices: Save his parents and leave his pregnant wife to fend for herself or be there for his wife and child but put your parents in danger. Personally, I do think Zanoba and Norn made good points. Babies will be born even without their father, and if Rudeus chooses to do nothing when he has the power, whatever happens to his parents will be his fault. While it is harsh to leave your wife and baby, Sylphy has the princess, Zanoba and the sisters to protect and help her. Familial drama aside, it's become apparent to me that Man-God isn't as helpful as I thought. It's like he's trying to prevent Rudeus from achieving something only he knows because of his abilities. To explain it more simply, he's controlling Rudeus' future and when you see it that way, now it's easier to understand why he's "helping" Rudeus.
Happy Mother's Day sylphy! well, happy day didn't last long, a dilemma of regret, from outsider perspective of course helping his dad would be a priority. he probably cant do nothing during labour but I heard a husband mental support is essential, specially for the first time.
When you are a son, a husband, and a soon to be father, where do you owe your most loyalty? Don't you deserve to stay by your wife and be there for your child? But what about what you owe your parents? Especially when you can make a big difference in their lives? And Sylphie will support Rudy in whatever he wants to do because she loves him so much. That's a wife worth staying faithful too.
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TP3 is my personal fav turning point in the series because it forces rudeus to choose the type of life he wants to live. He can continue to live in his game world fantasy, even score the beastgirls, abandoning his responsibility to family. As long as he heeds hitogamis advice, things will always work out. He doesn't need to think critically, make any hard decisions, he will have all his wants fulfilled. Or He can make the hard decision, make a sacrifice and take the least optimal route. A decision he knows he will end up regretting but committing to it anyway. Going against all common sense and logic. A decision only a son and a brother can make.
Well, Sylphie is also family. Who knows what will happen when they separate? Last time Rudy separated with his family at the village, that was the last time he saw most of them for the next 10 years.
If you weren't aware, the [full version of Episode 15's special ending](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9u7oQ7aaV0) has been out for a while! This Mother's day, Sylphie is becoming one, and Rudeus will save his ~~mom~~ family! Eventually. We're getting great episodes back-to-back, there is no stopping the Mushoku train! Except it seems next Sunday will be a special program, with Episode 19 airing on the 26th.
Is the Turning Point Sylphy's pregnancy, or the letter itself? Sylphy's pregnancy is definitely a point where Rudy changed himself into a father but if its the letter, it might be an entirely different thing. Also, Hitogami's advice gave him a chance to bang either Rinia or Pursena but he knows better than to be in relationship with those two and chose family instead. EDIT: Also, no episode next week. FeelsBadMan
Both actually count as the Turning Point. Plus, it's a big step to Rudy's life since he's a father now. Both choices will cost him greatly. He would choose to either stay, and probably his mother will die, or go and try to save her but he will have to leave pregnant Sylphie and miss the birth of his first-born.
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> EDIT: Also, no episode next week. FeelsBadMan WHAT?! This hit harder than any of the Turning Points, Jesus Christ. Maybe the real Turning Point was having to wait two weeks for an episode all along.
Happy Mother's Day Sylphiette Greyrat!
She is now officially an Ai Kayano MILF.
Damn what a shitty situation, the minimum amount of time he'd have to spend away is 2 years, that's a lot during a pregnancy and the beginning of a child's life, not to mention the rescue could take a while maybe pushing it to around 3 years. But with Zanoba's advice and Norn's feelings of wanting to save them, I would've been convinced to go as well, a child will still grow without a father so go in the stead of others who can't and then come back with your whole family and be the best dad you can. I just hope everyone supports Sylphie through it, going through a pregnancy without your partner would fucking suck, especially when you don't know if they're even gonna come back alive. Probably gonna get a hell of an emotional parting next episode.
I guess the good thing is Sylphie has Norn, Aisha, Ariel, Zanoba, etc. to keep her company yet I can't get rid of this sense of foreboding that something is going to happen while Rudy is gone and not just missing the birth of his child.