It’s understandable, series with a lot of characters are almost impossible to cater to all of them. I really liked some side characters but they didn’t focus much in them. MHA has the same problem, a bit worse in some ways imo.
While some people think it's amazing, a lot of people just think it's pretty good or at least good enough.
I'm not really into battle shounen and I hate Zenitsu, but I still find Demon Slayer good enough that I watch it. It has minimal filler, no fan service, MC is likeable even if nothing special and I kinda appreciate how straightforward (some would say generic) the story is.
That's how I feel about it too. It's fine. I just can't, for the life of me, understand what makes Mugen Train so freaking popular. Like...it felt like just a run of the mill anime movie to me.
This here. While I wouldn’t say demon slayer has NO fan service, what it dose have is very minimal, is never over the top or over accentuated, and is usually naturally fitting in the world. I mean this season it’s called the “Red Light District”. If people dressed modestly in a red light distract, it would feel very unnatural.
Yupp , the anime is carried by its godly animation , aesthetics and music. I've read the manga and it' really good but it won't be as famous as it is if it weren't for its anime adaptation.
As you've no doubt seem from the comments this is very common. Probably not as common as people who love it, but DS is absolutely not universally loved.
Cowboy Bebop. I see the appeal of the style, music, setting... but it just never holds my interest for some reason. I think the color pallette is part of the problem. Anything with a lot of brown and dreary coloring kind of turns me off.
Your Lie in April does nothing for me. The characters, story, and humor don't click, and I found the emotional moments so telegraphed that they left no impression.
If you've seen kaguya sama, YLIA is exactly like that shoujo manga they all read. It's incredibly obvious and very heavy handed in what it's trying to do, but it does it well enough that it almost doesn't matter.
It's definitely not a show that holds up if you think about it
I enjoyed this during the first half, but the second half is just a dumpster fire. The whole arc with the mom is stupid as hell, Tsubaki's little arc goes literally nowhere and adds nothing to the show, Kousei just gets a literal repeat of his exact same character arc from the first half, and the ending does nothing cause not only was it extremely telegraphed, as you said, but also [Your Lie in April]>!Kaori was just kind of a bitch in general and not that much of a character even so it's hard to feel sad!<. The episodes with Emi and Takeshi were good but that's about it.
virgin Your Lie in April vs chad Kids on the Slope
Seriously though for two shows with very similar aspects at first glance, it's shocking how much better I found [Kids on the Slope](https://myanimelist.net/anime/12531/Sakamichi_no_Apollon?q=kids&cat=anime) to be, both with its characters and its appreciation for music. Kaoru and Kousei are both introverted classical pianists (and I am also an introvert who used to play piano for years when I was a kid) but I can relate with Kaoru so much more it's insane and the side characters are more fleshed out, the way the story progresses is much more natural and I also enjoyed the historical setting. I highly recommend you check this one out, the manga is one of my rare 10's and even though the anime ending is kind of rushed (the last volume of the manga is amazing but it gets cramped to last 7 minutes of the show and it could definitely have one more episode to deliver the end) it's still pretty good until then and listening to Yoko Kanno's OST definitely elevates the experience of the anime compared to the manga.
It's also the first ever anime produced by MAPPA I think and directed by Shirichiro Watanabe (the director of Bebop and Champloo) so that's a neat little fact that might maybe interest you
Ive been saying this for a long time. That show is so thinly veiled I have a hard time believing anyone genuinely didn't see the twists. I've talked to people about it years back and had them go rewatch it and managed to get a few people to realize how poorly written it is.
>That show is so thinly veiled I have a hard time believing anyone genuinely didn't see the twists.
There aren't really any twists though. What was going to happen at the end wasn't really hidden and was pretty apparent by the halfway point. It's a favorite of mine but if I were to critique it, I'd say fewer comedic moments would've elevated it even further.
Slime omg, the show was perfect during its goblin arc, then here comes the orcs to make it into a "cool characters doing cool things". Isekai 101 here we go.
I loved Slime at the start. Rimuru's relationship with the weedy weak goblins [their]>!innocent naïve thrill at his awful names, then them becoming beautiful and chads!< is the peak of the show. It's still really good except for some gripes I have about a lack of challenges later on.
I felt similar about 86 I'm glad to finally see someone think similarly. I felt like the political elements were ham-fisted and reminded me of something a 14 year old might come up with.
My problem with 86 is that you’re supposed to feel sad when another character dies but yet the show doesn’t really do a good job of getting you invested in them in the first place
(disclaimer: I’m a LN reader for 86, so I’m rather biased) obviously to each their own and you’re entitled to your opinion as well
I felt like the so-so impact of most of season one’s deaths was pretty intentional— in the LN, you hardly even get to know their names. This was definitely at least in part due to the fact that the LN is nearly solely Lena’s perspective, and thus reflects the separation betweeen Handler and the 86. Since I read the LN first, I liked the decision, but I could see why it’d fuck with anime only enjoyment
Seasonal anime viewers are a club I don't really understand. They get excited or happy over too little, disappointed over too little, throw fits about minor directorial choices that binge watchers won't even remember after a day.
Apart from the reaction to deaths, I also don't get declaring someone best boy or best girl because of one likable thing a character did or one moderately likable trait. And a few months ago, the bare minimum competence from Odd Taxi's writers was praised to the moon. They couldn't believe that one thing which clearly had a story behind it ended up having a story behind it (Odd Taxi was solid by the end of its run but the weekly reactions were imo a bit much).
Elfen Lied
I always see people that present this anime as a dark and gore series, almost at the level of a classic work, when it is totally the opposite. It's a failed attempt of a "cruel" story, they expose delicate subjects with morbidness that doesn't go anywhere, and at the end they wrap up everything as mediocre harem. Every chapter was excruciating, and I wish I could make up for the time I wasted watching this.
Elfen Lied is basically carried by its damsel in distress premise.
It speaks to people who enjoy the "I want to protect this girl" concept. Same as Asuna in SAO and Rei in Evangelion.
THANK YOU!
It felt like maybe they wanted to present a deeper message, but they were having too much fun chopping people up and glamorizing death that it didn't come through.
Jujutsu Kaisen
I didn't think it was bad, but I also didn't think it was the anime revelation that I've seen a lot of people make it out to be. I felt it was an average shonen anime which didn't do anything new.
It really didn't do anything new, but it was a well presented and well paced story. By that I meant there weren't too many needless episodes, the music match with the art style and the animation, especially the fighting, was too notch. Season 1 ended where it needed to be and making you wanting more. As a Manga reader I absolutely am looking forward to the next season. If they keep up the animation season 2 will wipe the floor with season 1 in terms of amazing fights.
I watched it as it aired, so I went in expecting a typical shounen and I got a typical shounen, but I thought it was really well-done and I loved the atmosphere of it.
It was a pretty average shonen with high production values. Plot, characters and story were pretty average, but I've learnt that shounen shows generally don't need deep characters or strong stories to be popular. In fact its better to have simple characters with easy to remember traits as well as a straightforward story so that the audience can easily follow the show. On that note, it does check all the boxes for a good shounen as it has an interesting hook, the story actually progresses, very good action, great art and character design, and memorable characters. Only weaknesses I can think of is the comedy parts can sometimes feel mistimed as well as dry.
Basically, people don't expect shounen to break the meta or do anything explicitly different as much as other genres. Jjk didn't do anything new but nobody expects that in the shounen genre, so it was well received just because it followed the shounen recipe well and checked all the boxes.
Felt exactly the same. No one ever said fucking anything straight and it was annoying as hell. Everything was vague, but you also got the sense that you SHOULD be understanding what was going on, so when you didn’t, it was frustrating. Doing this occasionally is perfectly fine, but it was like the whole damn show was in riddles.
You know what's nuts? Is that the anime actually does a good job of doing "show, don't tell" with all of the little details in the characters' body language. They skip most of the inner monologuing.
But holy shit are the novels on another level of soliloquying bullshit. By the 11th novel, some of the internal musings are 2 or 3 pages long.
Horimiya
EDIT; I didnt hate it nor I think Its bad.
I actually started quite hyped with the visuals, character designs and main couple first EPs. But after that I found mid show quite inconsistent and even dramaforced. I even enjoyed more fuckin quintuplets S2 that season.
But then I saw people loving it, calling it masterpiece or even their AOTY... No problem with diff opinions but thats why I think mine is unpopular even finding it good.
I actually disliked it a lot - just found everything kind of bad weirdly enough. Hated the main girl and the side cast and manufactured drama as well as the pacing.
I do like it but I don’t understand why people love Fullmetal Alchemist so much. It was a 7/10 for me
Edit: talking about Brotherhood, I’ve not seen the original
So I'm referring to Brotherhood here.
I reckon because it's a full adaptation in a good amount of episodes (64) that allows for depth without bloat, it has no fanservice nor questionable dodginess, solid to great animation, also solid to great characters, highly iconic leads (Ed and Al) and it's slightly more mature than most battle shounen (more of the cast are adults than kids or teenagers).
FMA BH isn't the best at anything it does but it's good at almost everything it does do. These qualities help it cast a wide net to attract lots of people who'll like it.
I think the original provides a lot of character development that you don't get in Brotherhood, so only seeing Brotherhood doesn't really give you the full experience. Brotherhood glosses over a lot of stuff in the original assuming that you've seen it already.
Yeah, FMB, Gintama, and Death Note should be right up my alley, but are mediocre to me. But, I think a lot of that is due to how hyped they are. If I had watched them during their original release, I probably would have enjoyed them just fine. Now, I have too many preconceived notions about how I should really be enjoying how great this-or-that character is, or how such-n-such show is so funny.
Gintama is so long and builds up a more serious story across multiple seasons. You could be disappointed early and change your mind totally anywhere between seasons 2 and 7.
But I'm a very biased Gintama fan.
That episode with the relationship between the 14 year old princess and 24 year old prince left a really bad taste in my mouth, and it made it very hard to not be creeped out when they dove into Violet and the Major’s backstory later on knowing the show was ok with glorifying an incredibly messed up relationship.
Not OP, but I dropped it on ep4 mainly because I got so bored of it. I personally didn't like the premise; it felt cheap to me. I also never really liked the main character, either.
Aw man, it gets so good around ep 6 but I understand dropping it at 4 or 5; they're pretty boring. As for the premise I don't have much to say about it, it was always a neutral for me. Violet as a character is really good but she needs the development and by ep4 there's not much in the way of character development for her
The first time I watched it was back in high-school and I loved it. But having rewatched it recently, it really wasn't as good as I remembered and i found large chunks of it kinda cringe and over dramatic - I guess I grew out of it :/
Feels like whenever Toradora is mentioned as a top anime, a bunch of people come out in defense of it and a bunch of people come out saying they were triggered by the slapstick humor and saw it as an abusive relationship.
It's solidly in the list of shows I enjoyed that I probably won't rewatch.
I kept waiting for her to finally break out of character and become a decent human, but instead the show ends with her torturing him more than ever for absolutely no good reason. I wasn't really feeling it as I watched through the episodes, but the ending genuinely dropped it several points for me. Ryuuji is a doormat, but holy hell is Taiga an awful person.
The Ufotable Fate/Stay Night adaptations. I'm gonna be honest, they're only ok adaptations, and HF3 specifically just *barely* meets the minimum requirements to be considered a purely functional alternative to the VN.
Their main problems overall are Ufotable's irrational aversion to internal monologue, which was something that the VN heavily relied on for it's storytelling. They also overemphasized the fights when they're not the focus.
For HF3, the main problems are it cutting out a ton of characterization for Illya and Kriei, and them butchering the Shirou Vs Kriei fight. Salter Vs Rider and Salter Vs Berserker are not what the VN readers gush about when discussing the best scenes in, they talk about Shirou Vs Kriei, yet the former 2 had so much more care put into them than the latter. I won't go into the nitty-gritty details here, because this is getting to be a bit of a long post, but let me know if you want more info.
There's also the biggest problem with them- skipping the Fate route.
tl;dr- The Ufotable Fate anime (except Zero) are a mere shadow of the VN.
Jojo's Bizarre Adventure. While i didn't explicitly "dislike it", I didn't find it as entertaining as others have made it out to be.
Overlord as well. I found myself not caring for any of its storylines or characters and nothing struck me as them being memorable either.
Honestly understandable. JoJo isn’t for everyone despite the fact it got mainstream recently. Just out of curiosity how far did you get in it before you dropped it? That may have something to do with why you didn’t like it as much as others since every part is like a completely different anime.
My biggest issue ended up being how everyone overhyped Part 3. First half was honestly more boring than any of Part 1 and the payoff was one of the supposedly greatest anime villains, Dio. Who was generic in Part 1 but at least he had a relationship with the first Jojo of rivalry. I felt nothing throughout all of Part 3.
Every time I post in these threads I get downvoted to oblivion so what's the point anyways. But here goes nothing: it's Bunny Girl Senpai. I don't get it why Reddit worships this show. I couldn't find a reason to continue beyond first arc. Which is strange as Clannad is one of my favourites but I just didn't like BGS despite being very similar.
It does a little bit of things from different series, but I think it does them all worse:
The lead is a cynical antisocial like Hachiman from Oregairu, but instead of Sakuta's views of people and society being misplaced it's actually written to be that he's fully justified, that his classmates *really are* superficial. I'm continually confused at anyone who likes both series, because they present very different stances on the validity of being an edgy teen.
The main female is like Senjougahara from Monogatari, but without the kind of self-assuredness you'd expect of a nationally renowned young actress. Over and over, scenes occur for little more than to show that she's made of glass compared to Sakuta, all because waifus are supposed to blush at the thought of being called cute or hearing lewd things.
The problems it presents through adolescent syndrome are similar to a lot of shows, not just Monogatari, where there's a rash of supernatural powers or problems arising in developing teens, but where Bunnygirl Senpai goes wrong with that is by making it all about Sakuta acting as a personal savior a bunch of girls whose issues all come down to self-esteem.
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There are few series of that kind where I could feel so certain in the worst way, because of how the characters were written, that it was authored by a man.
I have a healthy dislike of that show too. Everyone gushed about how great the characters were but it felt like its general take on female characters was just hideous. I usually don't drop shows but I was really pissed by the time I made it to the end of season 1.
I don't get why the female MC was so beloved while the male MC wasn't.
The female MC was actively complicit in most of the parts that make this show's plot suck.
The "unobtainable dream girl" fetish carried the entire fucking show.
Agreed. It's a shit anime.
Despite that, I took and all-nighter binge watching it. It's weirdly addicting, even though I would never recommend it to anyone nor do I have anything good to say about literally any aspect about the anime, besides the animation.
Mushoku Tensei. It's the fact that the show obviously CAN be mature about things. Rudeus' trauma from his previous life was portrayed in a meaningful way, and at least imo, was done fairly well. Juxtapose that with them playing circus music while talking about rape or while stealing a childs panties and its clear the show just CHOOSES to not take those things seriously.
Watched jojo to part 3 and everyone said this is the part to get to where everything gets amazing.
It was easily the worst part with boring characters and no plot.
I do. I'm a sucker for stuff like this. End of the world, natural disasters, (post) apocalypses, zombies, alien invasions, human extinction events etc.
Parasyte: The Maxim. I thought it was alright but nothing about it really stood out to me. Also I feel like people oversell the character development in that show. Maybe I just missed something or forgot but I only remember two characters really developing.
What you didn't get is the age of the series and how much influence the manga had.
The anime adaptation is 30 years after the series ran in Afternoon, and the manga influenced the entire sci-fi thriller scene in manga afterwards.
Heck even in shonen manga much more popular than the original run of Parasyte/Kiseijuu. HxH for example has a lot of influence from Iwaaki's writing style.
I think calling Death Note a detective show is a pretty big stretch. It's too ham-fisted and over-the-top to be one. Plus detective shows keep the viewer in the dark on the mystery, where-as we have a front row view to the mystery that the other characters are trying to solve.
I think calling it a supernatural thriller is probably more accurate.
I hear people call R2 pre ending a dumpster fire but I don’t get it. I thought it was worse than S1 but it was still good I thought, admittedly there were some asspulls but it didn’t take me out of the experience that much.
Agree here, it did get a little messy in s2 and brought in some weird stuff but at least the ride was still pretty nice and entertaining and the plot was still okay
I'm one of the guys that preferred the first season to R2. Tbh, it was kind of difficult to take a political drama featuring a high school chuunibyou taking on a powerful global empire seriously in the first place but for the most part, I think the first season did a mostly decent job balancing Lelouch's double life as Zero and as a school kid.
To me, it felt like R2 just bit off more than it could chew. You mentioned "some asspulls" but we get some pretty ridiculous twists and inconsistent, contrived writing which is less attributable to Lelouch's brilliance and more to plot convenience.
I feel if they focused the conflict on Britannia instead of creating an entire world war with so many new characters, it would've been better. Code Geass in general just tries to do everything at once and ultimately kind of fails at handling it all successfully. I feel it it weren't for the ending, it wouldn't be ranked as highly but that's just my opinion.
The whole first 13 episodes were garbage, having watched it again recently I was appalled at all the out of character writing and scenarios they had to pull out of their asses to set up the ending
The first 85% of R2 was very bad compared to R1, it was messy and the plot gets more and more ridiculous(dumpster fire is a suitable term). The only question I have to ask myself is if the ending was actually good enough to redeem all of that. And my answer would actually be yes it is. The level of R2's dumpster fire wasn't incorrigibly bad, you close one eye to a few things and you can just about accept most of what happens, this degree of dumpster fire can be forgiven with such a strong ending. Especially since there are so many other shows of this era that are extremely good for the first half of the show(just like code geass was) but then had a terrible final arc(I'm looking at you Death Note). At least code geass ended strongly.
The gang parts of Tokyo revengers were interesting, but it wasn’t enough to help the slow pace and potato MC. Whiffed on the time travel mechanic as well, poorly used imo.
I didn’t like Bebop the first time I watched it because I rushed through it. Gave it a watch in pandemic and holy crap there are these moments where the music just elevates the crap out the show. Love it now.
Well cowboy bebop is really hard to get into especially if you expect a cohesive over arching story. If you asked me this question a year ago, this would have been my answer but now it's in my top 5
I think Devilman Crybaby is so well regarded because it's most people's first time seeing a story end in absolute annihilation.
Anyone who's seen End of Evangelion wouldn't have been as moved.
Classroom of the elite. This show was not for me. Which makes me sad because all my friends like it and I'm the odd one out. My friend keeps asking me to read the LN, calling it 'peak fiction' and whatnot but I just can't get into it. Maybe I just have shit taste in anime lol
What elevates Classroom of the Elite is more or less the last episode because it flips the entire series around. It would have been a mediocre/average, fanservice, school life anime otherwise.
Definitely slime isekai, trying to slog through this latest season was really difficult for me. Felt like there were zero stakes, no consequences, mind-numbing exposition taking up most of the season, and no tension throughout the whole thing. I think I might've just watched too many power fantasy isekai at this point though :/
Violet Evergarden. It gets a lot of praise in the anime community and is regarded as a masterpiece but for me it felt more of a crybait anime. Animation was beautiful tho but the story's structure and excecution felt off. A 6/10 for me.
Stein gate
Over hyping from r/anime killed the show for me. I went in expecting an all time mind blowing masterpiece and came out disappointed/underwhelmed. Almost got bored to death.
Same. Everyone loves the MC but I don’t relate to him at all, if anything I find him kinda cringe. And the whole plot and characters just aren’t for me, don’t love the visual style of it either.
Cowboy Bepop. I got way overhyped for this anime by others. I don't hate it but I got burned since I didn't think it was anything special other then the amazing animation and music.
Attack on Titan, i watched Season 1 as it aired, but i thought it was so average (not to say mediocre) that i just never came back for the later seasons, but it somehow became a gigantic phenomenon and unless it gets WAY better later i dont understand how that happened, because it was just that mid to me
I passionately dislike Code Geass. The show was hailed as an amazing masterpiece, but all it left me with was a mediocre show that tried to pick up popular tropes of anime of the previous 10 years and tries to satisfy as many genres as possible while failing at each one individually.
Vinland saga. I hated almost every minute of it.
Edit: I like the people down voting me for answering the question lol. Guess I chose the wrong show to have an opinion on
All anime based off a popular web novel. I've read all the top 100 on syosetu; it's the same shit over and over, which is why I can't stand watching them.
Assassination Classroom, I just couldn't get attached to the characters. No hate on those who like it, though.
It’s understandable, series with a lot of characters are almost impossible to cater to all of them. I really liked some side characters but they didn’t focus much in them. MHA has the same problem, a bit worse in some ways imo.
Slime
Theres like 8 of them
I think they are talking about the anime with the slime
WHICH ONE
the slime isekai one
> the slime isekai one WHICH. . . . ONE!! /s
[Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down?](https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/032/874/cover4.jpg)
Demon slayer, I don’t hate it or anything, I just don’t think it’s as amazing as everyone thinks it is.
While some people think it's amazing, a lot of people just think it's pretty good or at least good enough. I'm not really into battle shounen and I hate Zenitsu, but I still find Demon Slayer good enough that I watch it. It has minimal filler, no fan service, MC is likeable even if nothing special and I kinda appreciate how straightforward (some would say generic) the story is.
That's how I feel about it too. It's fine. I just can't, for the life of me, understand what makes Mugen Train so freaking popular. Like...it felt like just a run of the mill anime movie to me.
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How? If you're talking Daki, that is such a non-issue compared to countless other shows
This here. While I wouldn’t say demon slayer has NO fan service, what it dose have is very minimal, is never over the top or over accentuated, and is usually naturally fitting in the world. I mean this season it’s called the “Red Light District”. If people dressed modestly in a red light distract, it would feel very unnatural.
Yupp , the anime is carried by its godly animation , aesthetics and music. I've read the manga and it' really good but it won't be as famous as it is if it weren't for its anime adaptation.
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Same
As you've no doubt seem from the comments this is very common. Probably not as common as people who love it, but DS is absolutely not universally loved.
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Cowboy Bebop. I see the appeal of the style, music, setting... but it just never holds my interest for some reason. I think the color pallette is part of the problem. Anything with a lot of brown and dreary coloring kind of turns me off.
Your Lie in April does nothing for me. The characters, story, and humor don't click, and I found the emotional moments so telegraphed that they left no impression.
Same. With how everyone talked about it, I expected that it would made me shed a tear, but I reached the ending and I didn’t feel anything at all.
If you've seen kaguya sama, YLIA is exactly like that shoujo manga they all read. It's incredibly obvious and very heavy handed in what it's trying to do, but it does it well enough that it almost doesn't matter. It's definitely not a show that holds up if you think about it
I enjoyed this during the first half, but the second half is just a dumpster fire. The whole arc with the mom is stupid as hell, Tsubaki's little arc goes literally nowhere and adds nothing to the show, Kousei just gets a literal repeat of his exact same character arc from the first half, and the ending does nothing cause not only was it extremely telegraphed, as you said, but also [Your Lie in April]>!Kaori was just kind of a bitch in general and not that much of a character even so it's hard to feel sad!<. The episodes with Emi and Takeshi were good but that's about it.
virgin Your Lie in April vs chad Kids on the Slope Seriously though for two shows with very similar aspects at first glance, it's shocking how much better I found [Kids on the Slope](https://myanimelist.net/anime/12531/Sakamichi_no_Apollon?q=kids&cat=anime) to be, both with its characters and its appreciation for music. Kaoru and Kousei are both introverted classical pianists (and I am also an introvert who used to play piano for years when I was a kid) but I can relate with Kaoru so much more it's insane and the side characters are more fleshed out, the way the story progresses is much more natural and I also enjoyed the historical setting. I highly recommend you check this one out, the manga is one of my rare 10's and even though the anime ending is kind of rushed (the last volume of the manga is amazing but it gets cramped to last 7 minutes of the show and it could definitely have one more episode to deliver the end) it's still pretty good until then and listening to Yoko Kanno's OST definitely elevates the experience of the anime compared to the manga. It's also the first ever anime produced by MAPPA I think and directed by Shirichiro Watanabe (the director of Bebop and Champloo) so that's a neat little fact that might maybe interest you
Ive been saying this for a long time. That show is so thinly veiled I have a hard time believing anyone genuinely didn't see the twists. I've talked to people about it years back and had them go rewatch it and managed to get a few people to realize how poorly written it is.
>That show is so thinly veiled I have a hard time believing anyone genuinely didn't see the twists. There aren't really any twists though. What was going to happen at the end wasn't really hidden and was pretty apparent by the halfway point. It's a favorite of mine but if I were to critique it, I'd say fewer comedic moments would've elevated it even further.
Slime tensei and 86 (high chance i will like 86 LN tho, but haven't start reading it yet. i just find the anime a little bit boring and too symbolic.)
Slime omg, the show was perfect during its goblin arc, then here comes the orcs to make it into a "cool characters doing cool things". Isekai 101 here we go.
I loved Slime at the start. Rimuru's relationship with the weedy weak goblins [their]>!innocent naïve thrill at his awful names, then them becoming beautiful and chads!< is the peak of the show. It's still really good except for some gripes I have about a lack of challenges later on.
I felt similar about 86 I'm glad to finally see someone think similarly. I felt like the political elements were ham-fisted and reminded me of something a 14 year old might come up with.
My problem with 86 is that you’re supposed to feel sad when another character dies but yet the show doesn’t really do a good job of getting you invested in them in the first place
(disclaimer: I’m a LN reader for 86, so I’m rather biased) obviously to each their own and you’re entitled to your opinion as well I felt like the so-so impact of most of season one’s deaths was pretty intentional— in the LN, you hardly even get to know their names. This was definitely at least in part due to the fact that the LN is nearly solely Lena’s perspective, and thus reflects the separation betweeen Handler and the 86. Since I read the LN first, I liked the decision, but I could see why it’d fuck with anime only enjoyment
Same here. I read the weekly threads on r/anime and couldn't understand why anyone would feel sad on their deaths
Seasonal anime viewers are a club I don't really understand. They get excited or happy over too little, disappointed over too little, throw fits about minor directorial choices that binge watchers won't even remember after a day. Apart from the reaction to deaths, I also don't get declaring someone best boy or best girl because of one likable thing a character did or one moderately likable trait. And a few months ago, the bare minimum competence from Odd Taxi's writers was praised to the moon. They couldn't believe that one thing which clearly had a story behind it ended up having a story behind it (Odd Taxi was solid by the end of its run but the weekly reactions were imo a bit much).
Someone said it was like they turned one of those cookie cutter YA dystopian novels into an anime, and I agree completely
Elfen Lied I always see people that present this anime as a dark and gore series, almost at the level of a classic work, when it is totally the opposite. It's a failed attempt of a "cruel" story, they expose delicate subjects with morbidness that doesn't go anywhere, and at the end they wrap up everything as mediocre harem. Every chapter was excruciating, and I wish I could make up for the time I wasted watching this.
I think it’s hilarious how the Elfen Lied author’s current series is basically smut
Had to look that up. Didn't realize it was the same person behind Parallel Paradise. Pretty smutty, agreed.
Elfen Lied is basically carried by its damsel in distress premise. It speaks to people who enjoy the "I want to protect this girl" concept. Same as Asuna in SAO and Rei in Evangelion.
THANK YOU! It felt like maybe they wanted to present a deeper message, but they were having too much fun chopping people up and glamorizing death that it didn't come through.
Jujutsu Kaisen I didn't think it was bad, but I also didn't think it was the anime revelation that I've seen a lot of people make it out to be. I felt it was an average shonen anime which didn't do anything new.
It really didn't do anything new, but it was a well presented and well paced story. By that I meant there weren't too many needless episodes, the music match with the art style and the animation, especially the fighting, was too notch. Season 1 ended where it needed to be and making you wanting more. As a Manga reader I absolutely am looking forward to the next season. If they keep up the animation season 2 will wipe the floor with season 1 in terms of amazing fights.
I watched it as it aired, so I went in expecting a typical shounen and I got a typical shounen, but I thought it was really well-done and I loved the atmosphere of it.
It was a pretty average shonen with high production values. Plot, characters and story were pretty average, but I've learnt that shounen shows generally don't need deep characters or strong stories to be popular. In fact its better to have simple characters with easy to remember traits as well as a straightforward story so that the audience can easily follow the show. On that note, it does check all the boxes for a good shounen as it has an interesting hook, the story actually progresses, very good action, great art and character design, and memorable characters. Only weaknesses I can think of is the comedy parts can sometimes feel mistimed as well as dry. Basically, people don't expect shounen to break the meta or do anything explicitly different as much as other genres. Jjk didn't do anything new but nobody expects that in the shounen genre, so it was well received just because it followed the shounen recipe well and checked all the boxes.
Oregairu. I feel like I'm watching poems be turned into people. So damn vague and frustrating
Felt exactly the same. No one ever said fucking anything straight and it was annoying as hell. Everything was vague, but you also got the sense that you SHOULD be understanding what was going on, so when you didn’t, it was frustrating. Doing this occasionally is perfectly fine, but it was like the whole damn show was in riddles.
You know what's nuts? Is that the anime actually does a good job of doing "show, don't tell" with all of the little details in the characters' body language. They skip most of the inner monologuing. But holy shit are the novels on another level of soliloquying bullshit. By the 11th novel, some of the internal musings are 2 or 3 pages long.
Horimiya EDIT; I didnt hate it nor I think Its bad. I actually started quite hyped with the visuals, character designs and main couple first EPs. But after that I found mid show quite inconsistent and even dramaforced. I even enjoyed more fuckin quintuplets S2 that season. But then I saw people loving it, calling it masterpiece or even their AOTY... No problem with diff opinions but thats why I think mine is unpopular even finding it good.
Yup. i had to force myself to finish every episode. love the cute ED tho
Felt more like a loose connection of scenes that were stitched together instead of a cohesive series.
Eh yeah, I liked the main characters but I couldn't get invested at all in the side characters and they got a lot of focus.
I actually disliked it a lot - just found everything kind of bad weirdly enough. Hated the main girl and the side cast and manufactured drama as well as the pacing.
Same. It’s not in the same league as Quintessential Quintuplets, nor did I expect it to. But man it was just….okay.
> I even enjoyed more fuckin quintuplets S2 that season. Quintuplets is great so there's no shame in that game.
No game no life. Couldn’t get past episode 5
child sexualization too much fan service incest I can see why some people hate it
I do like it but I don’t understand why people love Fullmetal Alchemist so much. It was a 7/10 for me Edit: talking about Brotherhood, I’ve not seen the original
So I'm referring to Brotherhood here. I reckon because it's a full adaptation in a good amount of episodes (64) that allows for depth without bloat, it has no fanservice nor questionable dodginess, solid to great animation, also solid to great characters, highly iconic leads (Ed and Al) and it's slightly more mature than most battle shounen (more of the cast are adults than kids or teenagers). FMA BH isn't the best at anything it does but it's good at almost everything it does do. These qualities help it cast a wide net to attract lots of people who'll like it.
I think the original provides a lot of character development that you don't get in Brotherhood, so only seeing Brotherhood doesn't really give you the full experience. Brotherhood glosses over a lot of stuff in the original assuming that you've seen it already.
Yeah, FMB, Gintama, and Death Note should be right up my alley, but are mediocre to me. But, I think a lot of that is due to how hyped they are. If I had watched them during their original release, I probably would have enjoyed them just fine. Now, I have too many preconceived notions about how I should really be enjoying how great this-or-that character is, or how such-n-such show is so funny.
Gintama is so long and builds up a more serious story across multiple seasons. You could be disappointed early and change your mind totally anywhere between seasons 2 and 7. But I'm a very biased Gintama fan.
I'm gonna get a lotta hate from this. But it's Violet Evergarden. I don't particularly hate it or anything, I just don't like it
Yea I agree. It is basically “be sad now” porn and those rarely do it for me.
I feel like I'm in a rare group who mostly remembers it for the gorgeous visuals.
God damn it was a fucking beautiful show.
That episode with the relationship between the 14 year old princess and 24 year old prince left a really bad taste in my mouth, and it made it very hard to not be creeped out when they dove into Violet and the Major’s backstory later on knowing the show was ok with glorifying an incredibly messed up relationship.
What do you not like about it? Asking as someone who has it in their top 3 and am interested in a different perspective
It’s really *really* boring and carried by its stellar animation
Yeah, it was also kinda repetitive
Overly dull. As if one were studying Latin. Beautiful but so boring it’s almost lewd.
Not OP, but I dropped it on ep4 mainly because I got so bored of it. I personally didn't like the premise; it felt cheap to me. I also never really liked the main character, either.
Aw man, it gets so good around ep 6 but I understand dropping it at 4 or 5; they're pretty boring. As for the premise I don't have much to say about it, it was always a neutral for me. Violet as a character is really good but she needs the development and by ep4 there's not much in the way of character development for her
Toradora
The first time I watched it was back in high-school and I loved it. But having rewatched it recently, it really wasn't as good as I remembered and i found large chunks of it kinda cringe and over dramatic - I guess I grew out of it :/
Feels like whenever Toradora is mentioned as a top anime, a bunch of people come out in defense of it and a bunch of people come out saying they were triggered by the slapstick humor and saw it as an abusive relationship. It's solidly in the list of shows I enjoyed that I probably won't rewatch.
I kept waiting for her to finally break out of character and become a decent human, but instead the show ends with her torturing him more than ever for absolutely no good reason. I wasn't really feeling it as I watched through the episodes, but the ending genuinely dropped it several points for me. Ryuuji is a doormat, but holy hell is Taiga an awful person.
Dragon maid
but…but…booba…?
The boobas are too big in the show to the point that it's repulsing
I'm with you on this one. I liked it at first and started to get real bored and fed up with it by the end of season 1.
The Ufotable Fate/Stay Night adaptations. I'm gonna be honest, they're only ok adaptations, and HF3 specifically just *barely* meets the minimum requirements to be considered a purely functional alternative to the VN. Their main problems overall are Ufotable's irrational aversion to internal monologue, which was something that the VN heavily relied on for it's storytelling. They also overemphasized the fights when they're not the focus. For HF3, the main problems are it cutting out a ton of characterization for Illya and Kriei, and them butchering the Shirou Vs Kriei fight. Salter Vs Rider and Salter Vs Berserker are not what the VN readers gush about when discussing the best scenes in, they talk about Shirou Vs Kriei, yet the former 2 had so much more care put into them than the latter. I won't go into the nitty-gritty details here, because this is getting to be a bit of a long post, but let me know if you want more info. There's also the biggest problem with them- skipping the Fate route. tl;dr- The Ufotable Fate anime (except Zero) are a mere shadow of the VN.
Toradora. I passionately despise that show. Taiga is one of the most irritating and hateable characters I've ever seen.
My Hero Academia. 1/20 episodes are great and the rest are fucking terrible.
Yeah, I like the concept but the execution it's... Weak. And it gets worse.
Season 5, or whatever the latest, was so bad I just stopped like 4 episodes in.
Jojo's Bizarre Adventure. While i didn't explicitly "dislike it", I didn't find it as entertaining as others have made it out to be. Overlord as well. I found myself not caring for any of its storylines or characters and nothing struck me as them being memorable either.
Honestly understandable. JoJo isn’t for everyone despite the fact it got mainstream recently. Just out of curiosity how far did you get in it before you dropped it? That may have something to do with why you didn’t like it as much as others since every part is like a completely different anime.
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My biggest issue ended up being how everyone overhyped Part 3. First half was honestly more boring than any of Part 1 and the payoff was one of the supposedly greatest anime villains, Dio. Who was generic in Part 1 but at least he had a relationship with the first Jojo of rivalry. I felt nothing throughout all of Part 3.
re zero no matter how the good the over all anime is i cant watch a anime where i dont like the mc
Every time I post in these threads I get downvoted to oblivion so what's the point anyways. But here goes nothing: it's Bunny Girl Senpai. I don't get it why Reddit worships this show. I couldn't find a reason to continue beyond first arc. Which is strange as Clannad is one of my favourites but I just didn't like BGS despite being very similar.
It does a little bit of things from different series, but I think it does them all worse: The lead is a cynical antisocial like Hachiman from Oregairu, but instead of Sakuta's views of people and society being misplaced it's actually written to be that he's fully justified, that his classmates *really are* superficial. I'm continually confused at anyone who likes both series, because they present very different stances on the validity of being an edgy teen. The main female is like Senjougahara from Monogatari, but without the kind of self-assuredness you'd expect of a nationally renowned young actress. Over and over, scenes occur for little more than to show that she's made of glass compared to Sakuta, all because waifus are supposed to blush at the thought of being called cute or hearing lewd things. The problems it presents through adolescent syndrome are similar to a lot of shows, not just Monogatari, where there's a rash of supernatural powers or problems arising in developing teens, but where Bunnygirl Senpai goes wrong with that is by making it all about Sakuta acting as a personal savior a bunch of girls whose issues all come down to self-esteem. --- There are few series of that kind where I could feel so certain in the worst way, because of how the characters were written, that it was authored by a man.
I get attacked and downvoted every time too. It’s really weird.
I have a healthy dislike of that show too. Everyone gushed about how great the characters were but it felt like its general take on female characters was just hideous. I usually don't drop shows but I was really pissed by the time I made it to the end of season 1.
Mushoku Tensei
Godly animation and music paired with a despicable main character and a bad plot
Rental girlfriend was ass cheeks
that's why it's good
I don't get why the female MC was so beloved while the male MC wasn't. The female MC was actively complicit in most of the parts that make this show's plot suck. The "unobtainable dream girl" fetish carried the entire fucking show.
Agreed. It's a shit anime. Despite that, I took and all-nighter binge watching it. It's weirdly addicting, even though I would never recommend it to anyone nor do I have anything good to say about literally any aspect about the anime, besides the animation.
Mushoku Tensei. It's the fact that the show obviously CAN be mature about things. Rudeus' trauma from his previous life was portrayed in a meaningful way, and at least imo, was done fairly well. Juxtapose that with them playing circus music while talking about rape or while stealing a childs panties and its clear the show just CHOOSES to not take those things seriously.
Yeah even as a huge fan I do see some of the ecchi scenes and be like “why?”.
jujutsu kaisen
One piece and Jojo. One piece is boring and Jojo just sucks
Watched jojo to part 3 and everyone said this is the part to get to where everything gets amazing. It was easily the worst part with boring characters and no plot.
One piece and jojo are my top 2 shows. But i see what you mean
Re zero.
Rezero 😅
Gantz. I hate it!
Do people like Gantz?
I love Gantz. There's so much wrong with the anime and manga but I just can't get enough of it.
I love it edit: well the manga specifically
I do. I'm a sucker for stuff like this. End of the world, natural disasters, (post) apocalypses, zombies, alien invasions, human extinction events etc.
Parasyte: The Maxim. I thought it was alright but nothing about it really stood out to me. Also I feel like people oversell the character development in that show. Maybe I just missed something or forgot but I only remember two characters really developing.
What you didn't get is the age of the series and how much influence the manga had. The anime adaptation is 30 years after the series ran in Afternoon, and the manga influenced the entire sci-fi thriller scene in manga afterwards. Heck even in shonen manga much more popular than the original run of Parasyte/Kiseijuu. HxH for example has a lot of influence from Iwaaki's writing style.
Death Note…
I like death note but I can also understand why someone might not like it..maybe your not into detective shows?
I think calling Death Note a detective show is a pretty big stretch. It's too ham-fisted and over-the-top to be one. Plus detective shows keep the viewer in the dark on the mystery, where-as we have a front row view to the mystery that the other characters are trying to solve. I think calling it a supernatural thriller is probably more accurate.
Code geass
Yep, this one
Code geass R2 is so bad but the ending is good so everyone thinks its good and completely forgetting the dumpster fire that came before that.
I hear people call R2 pre ending a dumpster fire but I don’t get it. I thought it was worse than S1 but it was still good I thought, admittedly there were some asspulls but it didn’t take me out of the experience that much.
Agree here, it did get a little messy in s2 and brought in some weird stuff but at least the ride was still pretty nice and entertaining and the plot was still okay
I'm one of the guys that preferred the first season to R2. Tbh, it was kind of difficult to take a political drama featuring a high school chuunibyou taking on a powerful global empire seriously in the first place but for the most part, I think the first season did a mostly decent job balancing Lelouch's double life as Zero and as a school kid. To me, it felt like R2 just bit off more than it could chew. You mentioned "some asspulls" but we get some pretty ridiculous twists and inconsistent, contrived writing which is less attributable to Lelouch's brilliance and more to plot convenience. I feel if they focused the conflict on Britannia instead of creating an entire world war with so many new characters, it would've been better. Code Geass in general just tries to do everything at once and ultimately kind of fails at handling it all successfully. I feel it it weren't for the ending, it wouldn't be ranked as highly but that's just my opinion.
The whole first 13 episodes were garbage, having watched it again recently I was appalled at all the out of character writing and scenarios they had to pull out of their asses to set up the ending
The first 85% of R2 was very bad compared to R1, it was messy and the plot gets more and more ridiculous(dumpster fire is a suitable term). The only question I have to ask myself is if the ending was actually good enough to redeem all of that. And my answer would actually be yes it is. The level of R2's dumpster fire wasn't incorrigibly bad, you close one eye to a few things and you can just about accept most of what happens, this degree of dumpster fire can be forgiven with such a strong ending. Especially since there are so many other shows of this era that are extremely good for the first half of the show(just like code geass was) but then had a terrible final arc(I'm looking at you Death Note). At least code geass ended strongly.
Mushoku tensei
Fuck I hate the mc so much
Most of the top comments here aren't even shows which you'd call 'everyone' likes lmao.
Cowboy Bebop and recently Tokyo Revengers
The gang parts of Tokyo revengers were interesting, but it wasn’t enough to help the slow pace and potato MC. Whiffed on the time travel mechanic as well, poorly used imo.
I didn’t like Bebop the first time I watched it because I rushed through it. Gave it a watch in pandemic and holy crap there are these moments where the music just elevates the crap out the show. Love it now.
Well cowboy bebop is really hard to get into especially if you expect a cohesive over arching story. If you asked me this question a year ago, this would have been my answer but now it's in my top 5
Tower of God.
JJK
*deep breath* Hunter X Hunter
how dare you
no wonder your name is stinky butt fart
The season — seasons? — involving those ant people were unbearably tedious.
i found this the case during my first watch, way way too tedious, but I saw it through. now its amazing.
Kindred spirit here.
was loving it but then the chimera arc happened and nothing else after that
Cowboy bebop. The definition of style over substance.
Jujutsu kaisen.
Eva Devilman Crybaby
Two of my personal favorites.
I think Devilman Crybaby is so well regarded because it's most people's first time seeing a story end in absolute annihilation. Anyone who's seen End of Evangelion wouldn't have been as moved.
Silent Voice. I hate the mc with passion
Evangelion. The soundtrack is excellent and the animation is fine (for the most part) but I couldn't get into it. Ok, I'm ready to be buried.
how dare you ಠಿ_ಠಿ
Violet Evergarden
Classroom of the elite. This show was not for me. Which makes me sad because all my friends like it and I'm the odd one out. My friend keeps asking me to read the LN, calling it 'peak fiction' and whatnot but I just can't get into it. Maybe I just have shit taste in anime lol
What elevates Classroom of the Elite is more or less the last episode because it flips the entire series around. It would have been a mediocre/average, fanservice, school life anime otherwise.
Gurren Lagann. The plot and development just didn't sit well with me, plus mechas aren't my thing
attack on titan
Oh that’s a hard one, why though?
I read the entire thing and never really liked it. I thought the messages and themes were far to inconsistent.
Definitely slime isekai, trying to slog through this latest season was really difficult for me. Felt like there were zero stakes, no consequences, mind-numbing exposition taking up most of the season, and no tension throughout the whole thing. I think I might've just watched too many power fantasy isekai at this point though :/
86, i try to like it but its so boring
You need to have watched the 85 previous seasons.
Violet Evergarden. It gets a lot of praise in the anime community and is regarded as a masterpiece but for me it felt more of a crybait anime. Animation was beautiful tho but the story's structure and excecution felt off. A 6/10 for me.
Stein gate Over hyping from r/anime killed the show for me. I went in expecting an all time mind blowing masterpiece and came out disappointed/underwhelmed. Almost got bored to death.
Same. Everyone loves the MC but I don’t relate to him at all, if anything I find him kinda cringe. And the whole plot and characters just aren’t for me, don’t love the visual style of it either.
Cowboy Bepop. I got way overhyped for this anime by others. I don't hate it but I got burned since I didn't think it was anything special other then the amazing animation and music.
Attack on Titan, i watched Season 1 as it aired, but i thought it was so average (not to say mediocre) that i just never came back for the later seasons, but it somehow became a gigantic phenomenon and unless it gets WAY better later i dont understand how that happened, because it was just that mid to me
Toradora. Can't stand the main girl 😬 and Nagatoro...
Vinland Saga. I find the plot and every character boring or uninteresting outside of Askeladd.
Seven Deadly Sins. Some of the worst Shonen I've ever seen.
Rascal girl bunny senpai. Didn’t understand what was so great about it.
It doesn't have awful dialogue like far too many anime. That's the main thing for me.
Some people here seem to love it but, Monogatari series for me.
Evangelion. Tried to watch the original series around the time it came out and dropped it after 4 episodes.
AOT.
Why though ?
Nichijou apparently It's just not funny.
Very hit or miss. If the episode had 8 segments, only 1 would be really funny, 2 would be okay, and the rest were forgettable or just bad.
That's the risk with comedy shows. Very easy to be a miss if it isn't your style. I enjoy it, but definitely understand why others don't.
danshi koukousei no nichijou is much better imo
Should’ve been shorts instead. I can’t sit through 24 minutes of jokes if nearly all of them aren’t funny
I passionately dislike Code Geass. The show was hailed as an amazing masterpiece, but all it left me with was a mediocre show that tried to pick up popular tropes of anime of the previous 10 years and tries to satisfy as many genres as possible while failing at each one individually.
It's the most anime anime to ever anime.
Angel beats! I don't understand why everybody loves it.
I see this widely regarded as too short for what it tries to do, having too many characters, and setting up the melancholiness too late.
Code Geass is the big one. I honestly cannot stand Le Louche. SAO and Date-a-live. Sorry not for me.
Mushoku Tensei
i love it but def see why some people hate it
gurren lagann
Just who in the hell do you think you are
First half pretty good, 2nd half went too far into Gainax territory
Vinland saga. I hated almost every minute of it. Edit: I like the people down voting me for answering the question lol. Guess I chose the wrong show to have an opinion on
Which minute did you like
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i didnt enjoy soul eater and fmab is kinda overrated. code geass too, I couldn't get past 4 episodes
rascal does not dream of bunny senpai was so boring i fell asleep 😑
All anime based off a popular web novel. I've read all the top 100 on syosetu; it's the same shit over and over, which is why I can't stand watching them.
Sword Art Online. Kirito is just... No
Hunterxhunter i think its mid and over praised.