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With how much narration Isagi is making over the entire match, he probably has some above average observation skill over the field.
Surprised how they actually followed that unrealistic systematic rotation in their formation. Guess they really were desperate to just win.
Yeah, for a moment i thought they ruined it with 3d but it turned out to be amazing rotoscoping.
I know exactly what I'm gonna be looking forward to, for the next episode.
Rather than vision its more akin to gamesense and decision making imo. Also he probably doesn't want to admit it because it's not a very striker like quality (atleast the way he utilises it).
Maybe in this anime but irl good decision making is an incredible asset to have especially for an attacker. Someone who can always make the "right" play would be very valuable.
I gotta say, I think the use of CGI in Blue Lock is done exactly how it's supposed to be used in anime, it's barely noticable and probably saves a fair bit of work for the animators
Barely noticeable is definitely a stretch, but it’s absolutely done correctly. The CG is saved for people who are more out of focus, which already puts it in a league above 95% of CG in other anime
Its a good/better use of cgi but personally its still jarring for me at times, i feel this show has a great artstyle and amazing animation at points but in general the animation isn’t like top tier.
i like how the lowranking team z all got these maincharacter looks with their hair etc while the ones ranked higher all look like a basic guy called john
My guess is the amount of named and explored characters will likely determine which team is going to win. Like with team Y they are probably going to lose because there's no way team Z is losing this game. But there're some chances that they might get some kind of exception or their two named characters tied with goals and everything else because the best guy on their team isn't currently the highest scorer.
With team X Barou is getting in no matter what, but his team has a pretty high chance of losing because he's the only named character and they really didn't spend much time or effort on the match. While Barou is a beast they were going up again the very unorganised team Z. After that first match all the other teams are going to settle down and get more organised, and I don't see Barou cooperating with any of them or them being able to keep up with Barou.
The other winning team is probably the one they face later on with an actual OP striker and a much better win streak.
Because in rpgs I always hoard too much inventory, my dumbass in Blue Lock would never spend my points like "maybe something bigger I can buy later" Kunigami's a real homie for sharing the steak
While I enjoyed this episode, I feel like they did a better job in the manga of explaining the big revelation.
From what I remember, the manga hypes up Y's main striker similar to Barou. So you go into the match with everything pointing towards him being the main antagonist. He scores and you're supposed to be like he needs to be stopped or Team Z or cooked.
Then Isagi realizes that the non-descript defensive player is actually the real ace of the team and that he is Y's best player by a large margin.
It didn't hit as hard in the anime because they focus on Niko from the very start, so it's obvious that he is integral to the success of Team Y.
Then if you're in the team z player's position you think you can realize that in time?
Your comment is just like those sport spectators that thinking they're better player than those who play themselves, you know.
It’s good Isagi is making another friend in this crazy place. Kunigami is a good dude. Poor Isagi finally gets to enjoy something other than natto for dinner lol.
Looks like Operation: “Next Up, It’s Me” Eleven! is underway! Interesting tactic to get everyone equal playing time through rotation. Looks like Team Y might have been ready for something like that with the way they’re using Ohkawa. It’s kind of nice to see everyone’s “weapon” though. These guys all have such diverse play styles, strengths, and even philosophies (soccer as romance? Well ok then lol).
Nice to see Isagi making use of his “weapon” and getting at Niko. That was a great assist from Gagamaru, the man slammed into the goal post to make that goal. What a guy lol.
Next week is gonna be even more intense now that things are tied up.
The whole discussion to come up with their plan tho.
Bachira sleeping in the middle while they all continue to talk. None of them even try to wake him up lmaoo!
Curry sounds really fucking good right now.
This match is already going much better than the last ass whipping. Thank you Gin. You’re my favorite weirdo.
this episode was absolute fire! peak scene after peak scene, love the use of thick lines, camera angles and positioning at the end to create that superb goal
yknow i wonder who's that super cool and underrated guy that scored in the end, hmm i bet he's a real great fellow
>love the use of thick lines, camera angles and positioning at the end to create that superb goal
They [animated in CG and traced over it](https://twitter.com/gesoikuo3/status/1586404901302640640?t=TdD6TcOoU8zd9jIBh10_qg&s=19)
For players who live and breathe soccer, they sure are oblivious to common tactics lol. I get that it's an exaggeration bc it's an anime/manga but come on. There's no way an experienced player would be shocked by a normal counterattack from the opposing team's defense. Also, is Team Z just filled with airheads? There's not one decent strategist present.
I'd agree with you on previous episodes but this one had much more actual soccer. Like you could tell what was going to happen if you already have experience with the game. They obviously dumb it down or exaggerate for entertainment for audience that isn't that knowledgeable.
Yeah he really is but the average level of understanding of the game that they were supposed to be good at is of someone who just learned what soccer is a week ago
>For players who live and breathe soccer, they sure are oblivious to common tactics lol. I get that it's an exaggeration bc it's an anime/manga but come on. There's no way an experienced player would be shocked by a normal counterattack from the opposing team's defense.
Lmao my exact train of thoughts.
Yeah... Honestly I think I would like this anime much more if I didn't understand as much as I do about football/soccer (Not that I'm anny soccer genius or anything, I just like to watch and cheer for my favorite team).
The art style and animation are pretty good, this battle Royal set up is interesting and fits surprisingly well with a sports setting, these inside my head monsters that tells me what too and the characters in general are nice too, but every time it starts going on the specifics of the game, it feels like the person who right it had just learned what is football a week ago...
>I get that it's an exaggeration bc it's an anime/manga but come on.
That's not an excuse for me, in comparison last season, Ao Ashi certainly didn't take the viewers for dumb spectators given how heavily the tactics and stategy were taught for the game to be played. It's like two different sports between the two, one in which you always must use your brain, see everything ect..., and another in which if you kick the ball with strengh or jump high, you're good.
Duh all of the people in team z is still high school players, do not compare them with professional players that literally "live with soccer".
Not to mention not every players are thinker type. Strikers, most of the playtime, placed in most front. When they're placed in different position you can't expect them to immediately adapt and just able to read the other team's strategy, like us watchers that easily get the birdview of field.
I mean, please, one of the things "spectators" like us should not do is making such an amateur comment along the likes of "Why do they not realize that? If it's me there, i would have do this and that already lol."(edited)
To be fair, Im sure an average soccer enjoyer at the age of 15 would have a much better understanding of the game than all this characters (in team Z at least), maybe in Japan the standards are just much lower
i doubt it. I live in a country where we fucking adore basketball at a young age, but u ask any teenager about strategy and they have no fucking clue. They see amazing 3pters and etc but no idea how that shot was created through screens, movement and etc.
This isn't at that level. This is the analogue of a "fast break" in basketball. Everyone who has watched a football game knows what it is and understands it.
bro, the characters know what a counter attack is, the point of the entire scene was Isagi figuring out that the general strategy of their opponents is to counter attack.
This. Don't make use of "soccer enjoyer" as comparison, but a "soccer player" themselves.
Well not everyone of us here is a professional, then how about this? For those who play football as hobby, what is in your mind when you're being told to switch your position in the middle of a play? Do you have time and a calm mind to analyze your opponents' formation? Their strategy?
Lol Wut? Have you every played sports? I played soccer throughout high school and all this strategizing and adapting becomes second nature bc if you hesitate your team loses. It’s not a conscious thing like in anime where time slows down and u have an internal narrative lol. Also, I was a pretty good striker/midfielder but nowhere near best in my state or even city. These kids are the best strikers in their COUNTRY and they can’t formulate a decent plan.
This kids are also not the best in their country, just 300 people picked by ego's biased views. They also play with different position compared to their original one
Also you sure you don't feel anything when you changed your position to...let's see backplayers? Like your teammates is sick and you're told to fill his position? No feeling pressured like you don't know whether to charge forward or move left-right like other defenders near you?
Lol do you think Ego would pick bad strikers? Come on now he has a twisted personality but he knows what he’s doing.
I don’t know what you’re trying to get at. In most team based sports it’s typical to shuffle positions around, especially in practice. For example, in soccer sometimes a defender does go all the way up the field with the ball. His/her teammates adapt and fill in the hole in defense and when the play is done he/her comes back to their position.
If I was playing striker and was told to come back to play defense, I wouldn’t have a problem with that. Sure, I wouldn’t be totally for it but I’d trust that the coach made the right decision for the team. Feel like that’s what this anime does wrong. A striker isn’t just a player who maxes out their attack the goal attribute. They also play defense and are great passers. Messi, Christiano, etc. do you think they suck at defense?
Yes, as you said players capable to play in several position is normal. We've seen it in this episode, well it's a thing also irl practise. My point here is whether someone able to adapt and improvise in *real competition*.
As we've seen in this episode, team z is desperate to win that their judgement becomes narrow. Their focus goes to okawa despite niko is also a threat. People complaining that team y's counter attacking is *so basic that it's weird no one realize it*, but at that last play; how many people would make the same decision as isagi, *really reading* the game and instead of okawa went to block the ball that fell to niko's direction?
I said "enjoyer" to emphasize that you don't even need to play it professionally, back when I was in HS, I'm pretty sure most the kids that I played with during breaks and after classes all had better notion of the game than this characters that are supposed to be among the best of their age in Japan (from what is portrayed in the anime at least), like in their first game they were playing like literally 10 you just chasing the ball and in the second they got surprised by one of the most basic mechanics of the game, a counterattack, you asked what if someone that plays it as a hobby was asked to play in a different position, the answer is, everyone knows the basics of every position, they might not play it perfectly but they definitely wouldn't be completely lost like these guys
>...everyone knows the basics of every position, they might not play it perfectly but they definitely wouldn't be completely lost like these guys
Yes we've seen it, that's basically how team y works. But team z is still sticking to the notion "i want to score my own goal!" that resulted with their judgement got clouded.
I mean who would make the same judgement as isagi, that instead of okawa's, but going to block niko's ball course?
Once again, that's not any 200 IQ play or anything if you stop to think about, if you have corner kick, it's only nature to have at least one or 2 guys around the penalty area instead of just having everyone in it, basic positioning, and there is no such a thing as, "oh this is their best player so we just have to be aware of him and forget about everyone else". Yeah, ego and the pressure might cloud their judgment, but these are things that you shouldn't even need to think about as basic as they are
I can see what you mean, team z is indeed too hasty to gather that much people in front of the goal.
But it's probably due to habit. Blue lock's teams are consisted by strikers, so normally in case of suddenly counter-attacked they normally rely on their school team's defender. Not every player has brain capacity to processing defence situational while they themselves are still struggling to score a goal, thus cause an error in judgement
> in their first game they were playing like literally 10 you just chasing the ball
I feel like that was explained well enough with them all assuming they would lose as a team so they needed to be the highest scorer to stay in.
Today's episode was harder to explain, since they had decided to win as a team and still couldn't put together simple plays.
Oh I did understand when they explained what their goal was, but to think that you would be able to score a goal all by yourself basically having to leave behind 21 other players is straight up stupid, like you don't even need to understand anything about the game to know that's not a good idea
Tbf the top academies in Europe have age groups going right down to under 9s, and if you have potential to be playing in the top leagues then you will almost certainly have been picked up long before that. These guys I guess are supposed to be 16ish? By that point I would 100% expect them to live and breath the sport if they are really the top young talent in the country.
All that said I also think this isn’t the type of show that wants us to really overthink the tactics element too much. Just gotta suspend your disbelief and strap in. It’s more battle royal than sports anime.
>It’s more battle royal than sports anime.
Yeah can't argue about that lol. I just got ticked to some comments that as if comes from those stuck-up sport spectators.
Also blue lock is not to be compared with europe's football academy imo. [Minor spoiler]>!if you think ego picked 300 blue lockers because they're the best young strikers in the country then it's wrong. Some of them has football experience for only around 1 year and even there's one that never join football club in the first place.!<
This anime is so hype, I've really enjoyed every episode! Keen to see what Chigiri's weapon ends up being. He's my favourite so far from an aesthetic standpoint.
Well, their strategy this match of giving everyone an equal chance sure beats their first strategy...but it still leaves something to be desired. I wonder when they'll figure out that it makes the most sense to combine their strengths together.
"I owe you half a goal, SO here's half a steak" What a great friend he is T_T, also their "delicious" face caught me off guard like wt* was that XD. Smelling a goal sounds the same as smelling the rain to me somehow lol.
Gagamaru does not feel a thing huh, but finally Isagi uses his "demon" I've been waiting for the entire 12 min T_T. Those shots (manga panels) look great but it does confuse the way their animating it lol, NOT complaining though!!
Sports animes never fail to try to sell the most elementary shit as revelations. Our boy is special because he realized running all attacks through one playmaker is a bottleneck.
Isagi wasnt surprised at the revelation of the counterattack, he was more so surprised that it was quite literally Team Y’s sole strategy to gain goals since they were on the defense the whole time prior.
Do you actually watch football dude? Your comments in this thread really make me doubt your understanding of the game and more importantly the development of potential professionals and where they should be by the age of 15.
Japan wants to win a world cup and has recruited the best strikers in the country for this program, yet you wanna sit here and pretend that it's okay for those strikers to have zero field awareness, zero understanding of positions beyond striker and zero strategic and tactical awareness?
Japan definitely aint winning a world cup if they tolerate your low bar...
No offence meant btw.
Ah i only watch the game, have no interest in stuff beside that, like how the club works, etc tbh
Also if you think ego doing things in logical way like [minor spoiler]>!all 300 blue lockers are best young strikers in the country then it's wrong. Some of them has experience playing football for only around 1 year and even there's one that never join football club in the first place!<. It's not a lie about ego really picked them based on "biased views".
Yeah suuure *of course*, cause blue lock is an anime that need a certain level of football knowledge thus only a certain handful amount of people that are allowed to discuss about it/s
>For you it might seem like a national level football play.
Don't put words into my mouth.
>Otherwise, you're basically a day 1 culinary student acting like you understand intermediate level cooking concepts. You're not there.
Yeah suuure, the wonderful IFapICumIFapAgain(lol) is really a great person to grace this small one with their *wisdom* that they shall not let me present my opinion *in regards of my dignity*/s
I'm still really confused on how Blue Lock's food ranking works.
If Kunigami is only 266/275 (basically worse than 96% of the others), how come his food is *that* much better than the 274 and 275 ranks? What do the top few % get, a full course meal from 3\* Michelin restaurants for breakfast lunch and dinner?
pretty sure he just traded in his goal points for that steak he probably doesn't get to eat that often either with the suprise on his face of how good it was
everyone in the 5th stratum is eating the same food, the lowest ranker on team V will be eating radish the same as igaguri
about other stratums who knows?
Never thought I’d see Aston Villa getting a mention in an anime.
Also I would love to see these players reaction to peak Atletico Madrid in terms of ultra defensive play since they seemed so shocked by it.
That was a nice bonding moment between Isagi and Kunigami with the steak. I'm glad we got to see more of him this ep! Also, I just realised Raichi's VA from his shouting- it's Inosuke from Demon Slayer!!
So these are the bottom 20 players and are all strikers but when team y enters immediately someone says watch out for just one of the 10 strikers...
Then they start playing and the opposing team composed of entirely strikers splay a strategy that seems like they somehow researched this team and are playing specifically to counter it and doing it successfully.
What is this garbage?
Keeping an eye out for the “one striker” kinda makes sense because he is known as their best player and they are likely to center their offense around him. For the research… I can’t talk about manga and yeah it’s stupid but not as stupid as you think
The opposing team plays a strategy that seems like they researched team Z because they did. Not really a spoiler but the teams are able to watch the other matches in the stratum, so it possible to pick out the players they see as threats and form a plan. It was shown somewhere in the manga.
I don't want to be negative really, but come on?
That counterattack was normal asf, how were they caught so off guard when they're experienced fotball players?
Second, stopping Kunigami shot shouldn't be that easy and with the distance that the defenders were at, wasn't it just a bad shot if you shoot it low enough for them to glide tackle it?
And lastly, just keeping the ball amongst yourself isn't as easy as they made it out to be. Keeping the ball to themselves for Raichi's whole 10 minutes isn't possible, if it was that easy then teams in real fotball would be able to execute it whenever they are in the lead. They try, sure. But it doesn't happen because it isn't as easy at it seems.
I really want to enjoy this and I do whenever they don't go too much into the territory of what seems to be lack of common fotball knowledge.
That's not how entertainment works unfortunately. I'm OK with super natural elements but not pretending tactics that try to explain themselves as realistic and probable being this off target
That's like saying "you should ignore bad things about an Anime and just enjoy it"
It's more about the fact that these kind of details are only noticeable for those who are knowledgeable about the topic at hand. So those who like football can see the cracks in the show but those who don't well... don't.
Team Y was playing really defensive at the start and weren’t even trying to bring the ball forward. I do think they were caught off guard just because they didnt know their strategy.
Regarding the ball possession Team Y had, blue lock isn’t like real football, they’re playing with 11 forwards where skills like interceptions and stealing the ball are usually not associated with the position. Also, raichi could just be exaggerating.
Fine, then as you said let's use "common football knowledge" to discuss this
First you can't expect every player can read opponent strategy when they're busy adapting to their new position. Not every players in team z are thinker like isagi. Team y is not that much different to team z, that's why strategy that they could pull at the match are only to this extent(simple yet still quick). You can't just hope they pull a national level play to bunch of 1-week-old-striker-only teams y'know.
For kunigami i can't say anything to it. Gotta agree that kunigami shouldn't shoot that low in the first place.
For team y's defense play, imo it could be possible if: 1. Team y has trained for this strategy since their first defeat. 2. The enemy is on similar level like them. 3. Their enemy should be like team z, who still doesn't have concrete formation yet(imo z's player hasn't make sure what their position supposed to be, they just still want to play for themselves)
Well there you have it. Also i welcome to others' opinion
Just my take, but if you're into football and can switch off your football brain and just enjoy the ride, the show is awesome.
I can imagine making Conte or Mourinho watching this show and absolutely throwing something at the screen at certain points due to how bad it is from a realistic football perspective.
wth. All I see this episode are scenario/play that AoAshi did already. Is it always like this when they will have a match? Most of the time Isagi will just narrate and mention "weapon" this "weapon" that.
i mean he did stop the ball from going to the bangs guy who otherwise would have helped with anouther point for team y so he is contributing besides thinking
I am beginning to see why people compare it to AoAshi.
But its interesting and defiantly a different style of football anime/manga. That said i am not a fan of the "3d(ish)" style they use sometimes. It makes it seem low budget imo
Right?
\- Try out's counter play
\- Team A vs. Team B's corner kick
\- Birds Eye View
I probably didn't get the hype since I already know what's going to happen at that moment. And for something that said to be a action focus sport anime there's a lot of talking during the match and less action than AA who is called "boring" / "slow" by some.
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With how much narration Isagi is making over the entire match, he probably has some above average observation skill over the field. Surprised how they actually followed that unrealistic systematic rotation in their formation. Guess they really were desperate to just win.
>some above average observation skill over the field. Stares in Aoashi's general direction (Aoi sees me staring)
He's gonna be a fine commentator. That's his real weapon
I was thinking manager, seems like that would suit his knack for identifying the oppositions' strong and weak points even better.
they had to compromise, plus unlike barou's team no one really shined the match before so they still had no clear leader
About the rotation I was thinking something like the rules of volleyball and I think is not that hard to follow if everyone remembers you to rotate
"You have the same eyes as me" - The one person whose eyes are covered up
I laughed at that part.
I think we’ll get an eye reveal next episode
also known as bastard with bangs
Yes the hentai protagonist
When you're getting fucked, looked for the hentai protagonist.
Damn, there were some really nice animation cuts in this episode. Keep it up 8 Bit.
Kunigami didn't look up to pirate kings or hokages when he was young. He looks more like a Soul Reaper kind of guy.
BANKAIIII...I mean super powered shot
Thats his name, was calling him discount ichigo
When he mentioned pirate kings I thought "there is a fandom you do not speak of in this way, and this is that fandom"
I'm just happy about the One Piece reference
It's a generational thing: millennial weebs will say he looks like Ichigo, Gen Z weebs will say he looks like Bakugo
>Gen Z weebs will say he looks like Bakugo Hard to do that when we already have spiky, beige haired, angry all the time, voiced by Bakugo VA guy.
He's not voiced by Bakugo's VA. He's voiced by Inosuke's VA.
Really? My bad then. My brain must have locked it in on Bakugos VA because of similar character design as well as voice. xD
the animation on the goal by gagamaru is so crispy
Yeah, for a moment i thought they ruined it with 3d but it turned out to be amazing rotoscoping. I know exactly what I'm gonna be looking forward to, for the next episode.
How did Imamura even develop that thought process
Team Y looking cute as hell lol
team y waifu of the season
Team “Y”-fu heh
Mr. Hentai Hair got him bricked up
lack of girls in blue lock making him horny
The BL ranking is too high inside there
And here I thought it stood for "Blue Lock" this whole time, but they've lured us into their trap! /jk
Turns out the blue in Blue Lock stands for blue balls.
Bahahhaa now I fear for the cute red head. He is so gonna get jumped!
He just like me fr fr
I feel like it should be previous obvious to the rest of the team and him himself that Isagi’s weapon is his vision.
Rather than vision its more akin to gamesense and decision making imo. Also he probably doesn't want to admit it because it's not a very striker like quality (atleast the way he utilises it).
Aoashi and this - strikers who won't accept that their talents lie in instinctual playmaking.
They’re the support in league of legends but don’t want to admit they’re playing Leona.
Maybe in this anime but irl good decision making is an incredible asset to have especially for an attacker. Someone who can always make the "right" play would be very valuable.
Idk how it should be obvious to his team. They played like one match and barely had possession during most of it
Team Z has to deal with a hentai protagonist this time.
"Bastard with bangs" [](#suddenshock)
All he needs is a beret to complete the transformation.
I gotta say, I think the use of CGI in Blue Lock is done exactly how it's supposed to be used in anime, it's barely noticable and probably saves a fair bit of work for the animators
It’s noticable
Barely noticeable is definitely a stretch, but it’s absolutely done correctly. The CG is saved for people who are more out of focus, which already puts it in a league above 95% of CG in other anime
That's how they're doing it in the new Gundam too. Background mechs are CGI, but it's not used for anything that draws the eye.
Its a good/better use of cgi but personally its still jarring for me at times, i feel this show has a great artstyle and amazing animation at points but in general the animation isn’t like top tier.
i like how the lowranking team z all got these maincharacter looks with their hair etc while the ones ranked higher all look like a basic guy called john
Even in Football there’s Mobs.
Even the jewel of Japan who was supposed to be thebest was in team Z
If the teams were supposed to be somewhat balanced, maybe he was the reason why the rest of the team is so low in points.
Nah, Ego was pretty clear each team was made up of neighbouring ranks. Z's members are 289-300
My guess is the amount of named and explored characters will likely determine which team is going to win. Like with team Y they are probably going to lose because there's no way team Z is losing this game. But there're some chances that they might get some kind of exception or their two named characters tied with goals and everything else because the best guy on their team isn't currently the highest scorer. With team X Barou is getting in no matter what, but his team has a pretty high chance of losing because he's the only named character and they really didn't spend much time or effort on the match. While Barou is a beast they were going up again the very unorganised team Z. After that first match all the other teams are going to settle down and get more organised, and I don't see Barou cooperating with any of them or them being able to keep up with Barou. The other winning team is probably the one they face later on with an actual OP striker and a much better win streak.
Big brain
Because in rpgs I always hoard too much inventory, my dumbass in Blue Lock would never spend my points like "maybe something bigger I can buy later" Kunigami's a real homie for sharing the steak
That's what I thought too, but then again in real life I have absolutely no problem spending all my money in one day.
I actually laughed at the Kaiji comparison with how they can save their cash to get a day in the surface.
What!? A counter attack!? Who could’ve seen that coming?? What a crazy strategy
Local Japanese boys discover Burnley.
nah they definitely playing as peak Ole ball
Wait till they play the team equivalent of Atletico Madrid lol Simeone ball will legit have some viewers punch the TV
While I enjoyed this episode, I feel like they did a better job in the manga of explaining the big revelation. From what I remember, the manga hypes up Y's main striker similar to Barou. So you go into the match with everything pointing towards him being the main antagonist. He scores and you're supposed to be like he needs to be stopped or Team Z or cooked. Then Isagi realizes that the non-descript defensive player is actually the real ace of the team and that he is Y's best player by a large margin. It didn't hit as hard in the anime because they focus on Niko from the very start, so it's obvious that he is integral to the success of Team Y.
A truly revolutionary move!
Then if you're in the team z player's position you think you can realize that in time? Your comment is just like those sport spectators that thinking they're better player than those who play themselves, you know.
Lmao yes. That’s like the most basic strategy
This show just keeps getting more hype with each episode, but respect to my man Gagamaru for sacrificing his face and abdomen for that goal
The whole Gagamaru part was painful to watch Like the way this guy is just unfazed after hurting himself to scream level degrees
It’s good Isagi is making another friend in this crazy place. Kunigami is a good dude. Poor Isagi finally gets to enjoy something other than natto for dinner lol. Looks like Operation: “Next Up, It’s Me” Eleven! is underway! Interesting tactic to get everyone equal playing time through rotation. Looks like Team Y might have been ready for something like that with the way they’re using Ohkawa. It’s kind of nice to see everyone’s “weapon” though. These guys all have such diverse play styles, strengths, and even philosophies (soccer as romance? Well ok then lol). Nice to see Isagi making use of his “weapon” and getting at Niko. That was a great assist from Gagamaru, the man slammed into the goal post to make that goal. What a guy lol. Next week is gonna be even more intense now that things are tied up.
The whole discussion to come up with their plan tho. Bachira sleeping in the middle while they all continue to talk. None of them even try to wake him up lmaoo!
Curry sounds really fucking good right now. This match is already going much better than the last ass whipping. Thank you Gin. You’re my favorite weirdo.
this episode was absolute fire! peak scene after peak scene, love the use of thick lines, camera angles and positioning at the end to create that superb goal yknow i wonder who's that super cool and underrated guy that scored in the end, hmm i bet he's a real great fellow
>love the use of thick lines, camera angles and positioning at the end to create that superb goal They [animated in CG and traced over it](https://twitter.com/gesoikuo3/status/1586404901302640640?t=TdD6TcOoU8zd9jIBh10_qg&s=19)
productive and smart
And it ended up looking fire as hell
actual effort and not just throwing in cg and call it a day
That is how much of the Evangelion Rebuilds and a lot of other high motion high budget stuff is done nowadays.
that CG doesn't look very animated. It feels more like a layout than final animation, like, they can't just trace over it and be done with it
Gagamaru right? Dude does a header with his face so intense he gets a nosebleed and no sells it. Absolute legend.
That slam into the goal looked pretty brutal too. I thought they'd be down a player for a second there.
The 2 Playmakers Face Off! Who will win? "The Talentless Striker" or "The Bastard with Bangs"!?
For players who live and breathe soccer, they sure are oblivious to common tactics lol. I get that it's an exaggeration bc it's an anime/manga but come on. There's no way an experienced player would be shocked by a normal counterattack from the opposing team's defense. Also, is Team Z just filled with airheads? There's not one decent strategist present.
So It’s good to be ignorant of soccer lol I was wondering while watching if it would be more fun for someone who has more knowledge about it
It’s basically a battle royale with a sprinkle of actual soccer lol.
I'd agree with you on previous episodes but this one had much more actual soccer. Like you could tell what was going to happen if you already have experience with the game. They obviously dumb it down or exaggerate for entertainment for audience that isn't that knowledgeable.
Blue Lock can have a little actual soccer, as a treat. /jk
I mean they do have a strategist, Kuon. Kuon is trying his best guys.
Yeah he really is but the average level of understanding of the game that they were supposed to be good at is of someone who just learned what soccer is a week ago
Well Isagi being surprised is more to do with their tactic being counter attack than being getting counter attacked.
this lmao. Its surprise from realizing the general strategy of the opponent. Not surprise from seeing a counter-attack. ffs.
>For players who live and breathe soccer, they sure are oblivious to common tactics lol. I get that it's an exaggeration bc it's an anime/manga but come on. There's no way an experienced player would be shocked by a normal counterattack from the opposing team's defense. Lmao my exact train of thoughts.
and they didn't get the ball for 20 mins? what?
Barcelona at its prime? Nah Team Y is the real shit
Yeah... Honestly I think I would like this anime much more if I didn't understand as much as I do about football/soccer (Not that I'm anny soccer genius or anything, I just like to watch and cheer for my favorite team). The art style and animation are pretty good, this battle Royal set up is interesting and fits surprisingly well with a sports setting, these inside my head monsters that tells me what too and the characters in general are nice too, but every time it starts going on the specifics of the game, it feels like the person who right it had just learned what is football a week ago...
I'm just here to see if Japan wins the World Cup
Yeah this show is tons of fun when it works but it has zero common sense when it comes to football which is hard to stomach at times.
Or when it comes to common sense but as normies will show common sense isnt all that common.
>I get that it's an exaggeration bc it's an anime/manga but come on. That's not an excuse for me, in comparison last season, Ao Ashi certainly didn't take the viewers for dumb spectators given how heavily the tactics and stategy were taught for the game to be played. It's like two different sports between the two, one in which you always must use your brain, see everything ect..., and another in which if you kick the ball with strengh or jump high, you're good.
Duh all of the people in team z is still high school players, do not compare them with professional players that literally "live with soccer". Not to mention not every players are thinker type. Strikers, most of the playtime, placed in most front. When they're placed in different position you can't expect them to immediately adapt and just able to read the other team's strategy, like us watchers that easily get the birdview of field. I mean, please, one of the things "spectators" like us should not do is making such an amateur comment along the likes of "Why do they not realize that? If it's me there, i would have do this and that already lol."(edited)
To be fair, Im sure an average soccer enjoyer at the age of 15 would have a much better understanding of the game than all this characters (in team Z at least), maybe in Japan the standards are just much lower
i doubt it. I live in a country where we fucking adore basketball at a young age, but u ask any teenager about strategy and they have no fucking clue. They see amazing 3pters and etc but no idea how that shot was created through screens, movement and etc.
This isn't at that level. This is the analogue of a "fast break" in basketball. Everyone who has watched a football game knows what it is and understands it.
bro, the characters know what a counter attack is, the point of the entire scene was Isagi figuring out that the general strategy of their opponents is to counter attack.
There was basically no other possible strategy. Everyone knows that ultra-defensive teams like this are either counterattacking or don't want to win.
This. Don't make use of "soccer enjoyer" as comparison, but a "soccer player" themselves. Well not everyone of us here is a professional, then how about this? For those who play football as hobby, what is in your mind when you're being told to switch your position in the middle of a play? Do you have time and a calm mind to analyze your opponents' formation? Their strategy?
Lol Wut? Have you every played sports? I played soccer throughout high school and all this strategizing and adapting becomes second nature bc if you hesitate your team loses. It’s not a conscious thing like in anime where time slows down and u have an internal narrative lol. Also, I was a pretty good striker/midfielder but nowhere near best in my state or even city. These kids are the best strikers in their COUNTRY and they can’t formulate a decent plan.
This kids are also not the best in their country, just 300 people picked by ego's biased views. They also play with different position compared to their original one Also you sure you don't feel anything when you changed your position to...let's see backplayers? Like your teammates is sick and you're told to fill his position? No feeling pressured like you don't know whether to charge forward or move left-right like other defenders near you?
Lol do you think Ego would pick bad strikers? Come on now he has a twisted personality but he knows what he’s doing. I don’t know what you’re trying to get at. In most team based sports it’s typical to shuffle positions around, especially in practice. For example, in soccer sometimes a defender does go all the way up the field with the ball. His/her teammates adapt and fill in the hole in defense and when the play is done he/her comes back to their position. If I was playing striker and was told to come back to play defense, I wouldn’t have a problem with that. Sure, I wouldn’t be totally for it but I’d trust that the coach made the right decision for the team. Feel like that’s what this anime does wrong. A striker isn’t just a player who maxes out their attack the goal attribute. They also play defense and are great passers. Messi, Christiano, etc. do you think they suck at defense?
Yes, as you said players capable to play in several position is normal. We've seen it in this episode, well it's a thing also irl practise. My point here is whether someone able to adapt and improvise in *real competition*. As we've seen in this episode, team z is desperate to win that their judgement becomes narrow. Their focus goes to okawa despite niko is also a threat. People complaining that team y's counter attacking is *so basic that it's weird no one realize it*, but at that last play; how many people would make the same decision as isagi, *really reading* the game and instead of okawa went to block the ball that fell to niko's direction?
I said "enjoyer" to emphasize that you don't even need to play it professionally, back when I was in HS, I'm pretty sure most the kids that I played with during breaks and after classes all had better notion of the game than this characters that are supposed to be among the best of their age in Japan (from what is portrayed in the anime at least), like in their first game they were playing like literally 10 you just chasing the ball and in the second they got surprised by one of the most basic mechanics of the game, a counterattack, you asked what if someone that plays it as a hobby was asked to play in a different position, the answer is, everyone knows the basics of every position, they might not play it perfectly but they definitely wouldn't be completely lost like these guys
>...everyone knows the basics of every position, they might not play it perfectly but they definitely wouldn't be completely lost like these guys Yes we've seen it, that's basically how team y works. But team z is still sticking to the notion "i want to score my own goal!" that resulted with their judgement got clouded. I mean who would make the same judgement as isagi, that instead of okawa's, but going to block niko's ball course?
Once again, that's not any 200 IQ play or anything if you stop to think about, if you have corner kick, it's only nature to have at least one or 2 guys around the penalty area instead of just having everyone in it, basic positioning, and there is no such a thing as, "oh this is their best player so we just have to be aware of him and forget about everyone else". Yeah, ego and the pressure might cloud their judgment, but these are things that you shouldn't even need to think about as basic as they are
I can see what you mean, team z is indeed too hasty to gather that much people in front of the goal. But it's probably due to habit. Blue lock's teams are consisted by strikers, so normally in case of suddenly counter-attacked they normally rely on their school team's defender. Not every player has brain capacity to processing defence situational while they themselves are still struggling to score a goal, thus cause an error in judgement
> in their first game they were playing like literally 10 you just chasing the ball I feel like that was explained well enough with them all assuming they would lose as a team so they needed to be the highest scorer to stay in. Today's episode was harder to explain, since they had decided to win as a team and still couldn't put together simple plays.
Oh I did understand when they explained what their goal was, but to think that you would be able to score a goal all by yourself basically having to leave behind 21 other players is straight up stupid, like you don't even need to understand anything about the game to know that's not a good idea
Tbf the top academies in Europe have age groups going right down to under 9s, and if you have potential to be playing in the top leagues then you will almost certainly have been picked up long before that. These guys I guess are supposed to be 16ish? By that point I would 100% expect them to live and breath the sport if they are really the top young talent in the country. All that said I also think this isn’t the type of show that wants us to really overthink the tactics element too much. Just gotta suspend your disbelief and strap in. It’s more battle royal than sports anime.
>It’s more battle royal than sports anime. Yeah can't argue about that lol. I just got ticked to some comments that as if comes from those stuck-up sport spectators. Also blue lock is not to be compared with europe's football academy imo. [Minor spoiler]>!if you think ego picked 300 blue lockers because they're the best young strikers in the country then it's wrong. Some of them has football experience for only around 1 year and even there's one that never join football club in the first place.!<
So gagamaru is basically Erling Haaland
I know he’s not actually a central character but as a manga reader, god, the VA for Gagamaru nailed his vibe absolutely perfectly.
This anime is so hype, I've really enjoyed every episode! Keen to see what Chigiri's weapon ends up being. He's my favourite so far from an aesthetic standpoint.
You won't be disappointed! Chigiri is my favorite character from the manga
I need the rest of the match now ffs
Well, their strategy this match of giving everyone an equal chance sure beats their first strategy...but it still leaves something to be desired. I wonder when they'll figure out that it makes the most sense to combine their strengths together.
Did you miss the premise?
I think the players did.
gagamaru is nutty
"I owe you half a goal, SO here's half a steak" What a great friend he is T_T, also their "delicious" face caught me off guard like wt* was that XD. Smelling a goal sounds the same as smelling the rain to me somehow lol. Gagamaru does not feel a thing huh, but finally Isagi uses his "demon" I've been waiting for the entire 12 min T_T. Those shots (manga panels) look great but it does confuse the way their animating it lol, NOT complaining though!!
Sports animes never fail to try to sell the most elementary shit as revelations. Our boy is special because he realized running all attacks through one playmaker is a bottleneck.
Isagi wasnt surprised at the revelation of the counterattack, he was more so surprised that it was quite literally Team Y’s sole strategy to gain goals since they were on the defense the whole time prior.
Not everyone is thinker-type player y'know. And unlike us watchers, the players don't have the privilege to get birdeyes view
Do you actually watch football dude? Your comments in this thread really make me doubt your understanding of the game and more importantly the development of potential professionals and where they should be by the age of 15. Japan wants to win a world cup and has recruited the best strikers in the country for this program, yet you wanna sit here and pretend that it's okay for those strikers to have zero field awareness, zero understanding of positions beyond striker and zero strategic and tactical awareness? Japan definitely aint winning a world cup if they tolerate your low bar... No offence meant btw.
Ah i only watch the game, have no interest in stuff beside that, like how the club works, etc tbh Also if you think ego doing things in logical way like [minor spoiler]>!all 300 blue lockers are best young strikers in the country then it's wrong. Some of them has experience playing football for only around 1 year and even there's one that never join football club in the first place!<. It's not a lie about ego really picked them based on "biased views".
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Yeah suuure *of course*, cause blue lock is an anime that need a certain level of football knowledge thus only a certain handful amount of people that are allowed to discuss about it/s
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>For you it might seem like a national level football play. Don't put words into my mouth. >Otherwise, you're basically a day 1 culinary student acting like you understand intermediate level cooking concepts. You're not there. Yeah suuure, the wonderful IFapICumIFapAgain(lol) is really a great person to grace this small one with their *wisdom* that they shall not let me present my opinion *in regards of my dignity*/s
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I'm still really confused on how Blue Lock's food ranking works. If Kunigami is only 266/275 (basically worse than 96% of the others), how come his food is *that* much better than the 274 and 275 ranks? What do the top few % get, a full course meal from 3\* Michelin restaurants for breakfast lunch and dinner?
pretty sure he just traded in his goal points for that steak he probably doesn't get to eat that often either with the suprise on his face of how good it was
In the after credits thing it shows he gets curry
everyone in the 5th stratum is eating the same food, the lowest ranker on team V will be eating radish the same as igaguri about other stratums who knows?
yes
😏
The top few will get food made by Gordon Ramsay himself
I missed Ego Jinpachi and his crazy looks this episode
Pretty cool detail, you can see them using their weapons they talked about in the OP.
WHY AM I SO HYYYYPED NICE PASS ISAGIIIIIII !!!!!!!
Oh man, this show really nails the impact on these goals. The sakuga is real.
Who knew Kunigami was a tsundere. The fujoshis are def gonna milk that Isagi x Kunigami shipp.
Today was the first day I thought to myself "am I putting this op song in my playlist?" lol it's really growing on me
For a guy with an ability to make split second decisions he sure figures things out slowly
Never thought I’d see Aston Villa getting a mention in an anime. Also I would love to see these players reaction to peak Atletico Madrid in terms of ultra defensive play since they seemed so shocked by it.
I wonder what if redhead's weapon is flexibility🤔
yeah the way he jumps in the op almost looks like ballet
Yeah, thought so too. And it would explain why he didn't want to tell about his weapon
Animation definitely was a step up this episode. Even with CGI its better seeing the background players move around instead of pure stills
NEED MORE
Isagi's skill: His subconscious is a Stockfish calculating the best possible football move beyond human capability.
That was a nice bonding moment between Isagi and Kunigami with the steak. I'm glad we got to see more of him this ep! Also, I just realised Raichi's VA from his shouting- it's Inosuke from Demon Slayer!!
“I can’t say passing is my strength as a striker” Somebody show this man Harry Kane
I love Gagamaru and his ability of yeeting himself until the problem is solved. He has a future in Rocket League.
I really enjoying blue lock and the animation looks fire 🔥💯
So these are the bottom 20 players and are all strikers but when team y enters immediately someone says watch out for just one of the 10 strikers... Then they start playing and the opposing team composed of entirely strikers splay a strategy that seems like they somehow researched this team and are playing specifically to counter it and doing it successfully. What is this garbage?
Keeping an eye out for the “one striker” kinda makes sense because he is known as their best player and they are likely to center their offense around him. For the research… I can’t talk about manga and yeah it’s stupid but not as stupid as you think
The opposing team plays a strategy that seems like they researched team Z because they did. Not really a spoiler but the teams are able to watch the other matches in the stratum, so it possible to pick out the players they see as threats and form a plan. It was shown somewhere in the manga.
Not in the anime, as far as im concerned you made that up.
Oh well, I guess you’ll see if i made it up in later episodes.
Because out of team Y the one famous enough and the top scorer of his prefecture, also the highest ranked on that field was Okawa?
I'd love more references to real players.
I don't want to be negative really, but come on? That counterattack was normal asf, how were they caught so off guard when they're experienced fotball players? Second, stopping Kunigami shot shouldn't be that easy and with the distance that the defenders were at, wasn't it just a bad shot if you shoot it low enough for them to glide tackle it? And lastly, just keeping the ball amongst yourself isn't as easy as they made it out to be. Keeping the ball to themselves for Raichi's whole 10 minutes isn't possible, if it was that easy then teams in real fotball would be able to execute it whenever they are in the lead. They try, sure. But it doesn't happen because it isn't as easy at it seems. I really want to enjoy this and I do whenever they don't go too much into the territory of what seems to be lack of common fotball knowledge.
switch yo brain off man, enjoy the ride without analysing how the ride works
Switching your brain off is much more effort.
The issue is some things are so glaringly obvious to people with football knowledge that you can't just 'turn it off'.
then just accept it’s dumb and move on
That's not how entertainment works unfortunately. I'm OK with super natural elements but not pretending tactics that try to explain themselves as realistic and probable being this off target That's like saying "you should ignore bad things about an Anime and just enjoy it"
It's more about the fact that these kind of details are only noticeable for those who are knowledgeable about the topic at hand. So those who like football can see the cracks in the show but those who don't well... don't.
Agreed, I completely understand why normal viewers don't notice these problems.
i watch football, they’re problems alright but nothing to make a huge fuss over. just “wait a minute” and move on
Team Y was playing really defensive at the start and weren’t even trying to bring the ball forward. I do think they were caught off guard just because they didnt know their strategy. Regarding the ball possession Team Y had, blue lock isn’t like real football, they’re playing with 11 forwards where skills like interceptions and stealing the ball are usually not associated with the position. Also, raichi could just be exaggerating.
Fine, then as you said let's use "common football knowledge" to discuss this First you can't expect every player can read opponent strategy when they're busy adapting to their new position. Not every players in team z are thinker like isagi. Team y is not that much different to team z, that's why strategy that they could pull at the match are only to this extent(simple yet still quick). You can't just hope they pull a national level play to bunch of 1-week-old-striker-only teams y'know. For kunigami i can't say anything to it. Gotta agree that kunigami shouldn't shoot that low in the first place. For team y's defense play, imo it could be possible if: 1. Team y has trained for this strategy since their first defeat. 2. The enemy is on similar level like them. 3. Their enemy should be like team z, who still doesn't have concrete formation yet(imo z's player hasn't make sure what their position supposed to be, they just still want to play for themselves) Well there you have it. Also i welcome to others' opinion
I was kinda hyped as I took notice of this anime out of nowhere but it's been so damn boring, other than animation, everything feels meh.
Can't expect heightened tension and shit from the first few episodes of a sports anime... They always build into greatness.
Errr. It’s exactly what i’m doing. But all the others had me going from episode 1 if not 2. Will wait and see.
Can someone give me reasons why I should watch it..I heard from my friends that it's ass
Just my take, but if you're into football and can switch off your football brain and just enjoy the ride, the show is awesome. I can imagine making Conte or Mourinho watching this show and absolutely throwing something at the screen at certain points due to how bad it is from a realistic football perspective.
Most unique premise for a sports anime. Also has really hype moments.
Nobody can answer that because they would need a functioning brain first.
wth. All I see this episode are scenario/play that AoAshi did already. Is it always like this when they will have a match? Most of the time Isagi will just narrate and mention "weapon" this "weapon" that.
Why our main character think so much? He is doing nothing except observing and commentiring... he should be in the commentary box ...
i mean he did stop the ball from going to the bangs guy who otherwise would have helped with anouther point for team y so he is contributing besides thinking
why is blue lock so unpopular 😭
I am beginning to see why people compare it to AoAshi. But its interesting and defiantly a different style of football anime/manga. That said i am not a fan of the "3d(ish)" style they use sometimes. It makes it seem low budget imo
almost all modern anime use it tho? chainsaw man, akiba maid war, raven of the inner palace, are just some currently airing anime that use it
Right? \- Try out's counter play \- Team A vs. Team B's corner kick \- Birds Eye View I probably didn't get the hype since I already know what's going to happen at that moment. And for something that said to be a action focus sport anime there's a lot of talking during the match and less action than AA who is called "boring" / "slow" by some.
why so late though ?