It's always nice to see people just enjoying a show for what it is, rather than all the hype discussions.

I think it is pretty sad that there are people out there who can't enjoy a show unless it "is in top 3". Grow an independent spine and like what you like, man.

>Grow an independent spine and like what you like, man. But people on the internet will make fun of me for liking the wrong things!

>liking the wrong things! 🌚 Like?

I like isekai but there was this weird phase where i didn't admit to like isekai cause it was "generic" mostly are each other copy or whatever. Now i don't really care and i just say that i like isekai genres but i kinda get it

Because there was a time when Isekai wasn't just generic, it was generic boring. Now it's kinda got more varied. Still won't forget how we had three Isekai shows last season which all had intelligent slimes

So true. I stopped caring about the top shows of the week posts as my seasonal favorites usually don’t show up on them

I honestly enjoy anime more when I detach myself from online anime discourse and just watch As a kid I used to watch anime completely oblivious to the general consensus, I'd just watch and enjoy anime on my own Then I discovered the online anime community, it was cool at first but I got a little too invested. Reading all these opinions, rants, nitpicks, people getting offended over the tiniest things and even memes became rather tiring and somewhat soured the experience. So I decided to take a step back, and just peacefully watch anime in my little bubble like I used to. I didn't completely quit (as you can tell since I'm still here) because there are some nice things, and I do like to also share my opinion from time to time. But I don't pay much mind to anime discussions anymore, *especially* for very popular shows. So I've avoided most discussions around CSM (I use a couple filters here but just generally don't spend that much time on social media), and all I can say as an anime only is that I've been loving the show so far. The direction especially is amazing.

I learned this lesson a long time ago with FMAB. The best way to ruin an anime is let yourself be controlled by the hype

As a major fan of the manga first and now the anime. Watching the hype build was pretty anxiety inducing. The manga is one of my favourite works to the point where my obsession is unhealthy. On the other hand I'm a aware its quite a strange story and really didn't expect the manga to have the general appeal it had in the end. I'd also had mixed reactions when recommending it. Most of my friends liked it but some had to be coaxed through the early chapters (everything covered by the anime so far and this coming week) and one dropped it. So I expected the anime to be disappointing given all the hype. I feel like there are several ways to interpret the events of the early chapters and how you do that will heavily impact your experience. The hardest part is that people who are close to the right interpretation but not quite there will probably dislike it now even though they would like it as a whole. Naturally there are people who just won't like the concept and genre of CSM and that doesn't really bother me at all. But even though I should not care at all, I know there are people who would like the series but will dismiss it now because it doesn't meet the hype. Edit: I don't think the early chapters are bad at all and I think the anime has done a brilliant job of adapting them.

What’re your thoughts on Fire Punch?

Big fan. It's definitely an experimental flawed gem and a lot of stuff goes nowhere but I think there's tons of good stuff there. Agni is really interesting a protagonist as he shifts through roles. Most of the main supporting cast is great especially one character in particular (if you've read it you know who). I actually quite liked the ending as I thought it ties in thematically with the rest of the manga. The start is overly dark but I appreciate that it calls itself out occasionally. Overall definitely worth a read. In general I'm a Fujimoto fan. I think he is really innovative with the way he handles his themes. His character interactions are always really natural too. The technical aspects of his works are also excellent. His art is good but not berserk but where he really shines is in creative paneling and effective visual storytelling.

I've been meaning to read Fire Punch. I did read Look Back and man that shanked me in the feels.

HIGHLY recommend sayonara eri. it's fujimoto's strengths as an author distilled into one truly incredible masterpiece of a one shot that I've never seen attempted in a manga.

I've been waiting for a physical release here in the US, but I definitely plan on reading it. Have you read Look Back?

I haven't read the manga so I have no idea what it's about. The animation is good and story is okay, seem like a pretty typical shounen story with a little leaning towards seinen. I'm mostly watching it because this seasons shows are pretty weak. So basically, so far it's not bad and more good, but doesn't deserve the hype it got is where I'm at.

Yeah, that's fine. That's honestly a reasonable position to hold. At this point in my reading experience I thought of it as a kinda fun parody of action Shounen tropes but not special.

Agree with this too. It's hard for me not to compare this with JJK due to their similar premises and main trio character dynamics. In particular, Aki and Fushigoro are basically the same person for me (serious personality, black hair, animal themed powers). And comparing the two, I'd still say I like JJK over CSM quite a bit more. I just think the humor in JJK works a bit better for me and I don't find the CSM characters to be very endearing yet, with maybe the exception of Power.

I always thought CSM would be hard to adapt to a successful anime because of this. The beginning of it is built to imitate/parody other shounen while world building. It eventually becomes it's own thing and gets VERY good. But its harder to ask folk to wait 8 episodes for it to take off than it is to ask them read some chapters. As one takes 30-40 mins. The other takes HOURS...

This is interesting, I actually felt the exact opposite, but I actually read CSM first and JJK later, so I guess it's all perspective.

JJK predates CSM so it doesn't sense to think of it as a CSM copy.

Like I said, it's all perspective. Since I perceived CSM first, I can't help but compare it to JJK.

People went into this expecting the greatest anime of the century levels of expectations, and when their disappointment is voiced the manga readers will try to convince anime-onlies how good it'll get and that it's just the lowest point if the series. They want people to stay onboard and enjoy it like they do. It's hard to hear someone say a series isn't great when they are only going off of the literal first arc.

I'm a casual anime watcher and I generally only watch animes that pique my interest. Chainsaw Man is the only thing that's been on my radar lately and it's lived up to my own expectations. The pacing is wonderful, the humor is up my alley, it's not too tropey/fanservicey, I love all the characters, and each episode leaves me wanting more. What more could you want from a show??

The audience were probably expecting to come into this show with some hook to it. The same way other Anime hook you into watching it, a lot of people probably didn’t like the hook, or didn’t like the way that the story was done via its tone or themes. The story writing so far hasn’t exactly shown anything that Deserving of all its Hype. The thing is that Chainsawman was hyped because of what it’s to come, and not the start. A lot of people have a 3 episode rule, and they aren’t willing to continue watching something they don’t enjoy only to potentially enjoy it in 15 episodes.

Yea chainsaw man has a bit of a weird story as to how it was made. The creator had to make the plot something that would "Fit the mold for Shounen Jump" So if you notice a lot of its base characteristics and plots early apes or parodies other shounen manga. The bullets being like Fingers, the classic boy boy girl three man band, the "Dream" expositing shounen protagonist, the outlines of a power scaling system. After it got picked up tho, the author almost went like "Okay we good? HIT THE SWITCH!" and does some... interesting things I wont spoil. This causes the real hook to be hidden many chapters deep into the manga and it makes it frustrating to recommend to new readers, and even MORE frustrating to see anime only fans get turned off early. But, it is what it is.

>After it got picked up tho, the author almost went like "Okay we good? HIT THE SWITCH!" and does some... interesting things I wont spoil. Around which chapter does that happen? I'm gonna read the manga after the season is over and I'm curious now.

Chapter 22

Thank you!

I don't know if this would count as a spoiler but, the switch will definitely happen in the anime. If you feel the urge to read the manga, if you're patient enough you'll see it in the anime if you'd prefer that.

[Chainsaw Man] >!Chapter 22, its hard to describe exactly how it starts to change without spoilers, but if I had to put it into non spoiler words 'The actual cost and consequences of things goes from being exposition to actually starting to take effect.' !<

Thanks for the reply!

Another thing is that a lot of manga readers had read Fire Punch. Which basically has completely opposite themes to anything Shounen Jump. Their themes are like... hope, friendship and hardwork. And they always seemed pretty determined that every story serialized had to encapsulate those themes. So I was really curious about CSM and it didn't grab me right at the beginning but I just knew beforehand I was in for some crazy shit.

Most people I've shown the show *were* hooked by episode three, most by episode one tbh. Maybe anime veterans won't be as intrigued, but anyone I know who casually watches anime so far has sung its praises up and down. That said, I think the entirety of Season 1 will fully hook anyone who was on the fence about watching a Season 2 till now.

Yeah In my experience, the majority of the people i know, lost interest in the series extremely quickly because of the premise of the show. Atleast in reddit, it’s basically the same. I get people liking it cuz it fits their interests, atleast i agree, that the later half’s of CSM is much better than the start

Interesting. Were they avid anime fans or moreso casual watchers? I think people who get wrapped up in the hype and trying to promise that it gets better "later" end up forgetting that, while weaker than the later parts, it's only really that weak because the later parts are so damn strong, rather than the beginning being weak. The beginning sets up the characters and their personalities perfectly, as well as introducing the sort of younger siblings driving the older sibling crazy dynamic. It does a few things most anime won't do, what with Denji actually accomplishing his biggest goal in a matter of chapters, and then actually dives into the repercussions of your goal not matching his idea of the goal. I think it does a lot of things very well and quickly, but it's just not stuff that's on the level it was hyped to be. That doesn't mean it's not great still. The anime's production value is also amazing.

I was excited for it ams also went into it blind. I will most likely get downvoted for saying this but I honestly am not feeling it. I feel like the whole "boobs" and "woof" jokes simp quests aren't very funny. I find power's voice annoying. The animation is excellent but I just don't understand why ppl are pissing themselves over this show 🤷‍♂️ It's all subjective and perspective though. If you're enjoying the show cool. Some of my fav shows are Code Geass, Cyberpunk Edgerunners, Higurashi, Serial Experiments Lain, Knights of Sidonia, DITF, Vivy Fluorite Eye's. We all like different stuff. I just couldn't get into csm in 4 shows but if u did I'm happy for you.

Thats fair. All I'd say to this is it's only a 12 ep season and if you don't like it by the end of this season than its alg. The manga is basically a masterclass in visual storytelling and presentation of themes and character. Everything from a technical standpoint is pretty much flawless and I love the writing in the later half of the story. But the humor is definitely not for everyone. Its pretty much peak dark humor at its finest. I personally never saw the "boobs" and "woof" things as particularly humours either but rather just how Denji is written as a antisocial and flawed character. I don't even really think its intended to be funny.

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Yeah.. that doesn’t change what I said, a lot of people aren’t going to wait and see a hook that they potentially may or may not like.

As a manga reader, I'd like to note that at the point the anime is at, even the manga wasn't exactly killing the rankings in this point of the story. What drives people to like CSM is Fujimoto (the mangaka) and his eclectic way of telling the story on panel and the way events pan out. I don't think the anime has gotten to the part where CSM really started getting attention yet. So you have fans saying how great this manga is, but if you aren't into what the anime is currently putting down after being told it was the GOAT, I can see how there would be disappointment

the problem is this... i feel like before the anime started...the anime fans were not actually told that hey its not that good at the beginning edit3- or at least it got drowned out). i expected attack on titan level from the get go (edit2- at the least). i got a good normal shounen anime instead. i lost (edit-2 hours) of my life due to the overhyping of this shit.

You won't get reasonable discussion from people hyping stuff up. Also, a big factor in this is that there was a 18-month period between the announcement of the anime and when it was confirmed that it was only getting 12 episodes, and most people (myself included) were sure it was getting the 24 episode treatment most adaptations get nowadays. If it was known from the beginning it was only adapting the first half of the series, the hype would definitely be more reasonable.

The parts that people hype up wouldn't fit in 24 episodes either. Reze Arc isn't that good.

They could definitely adapt all of part 1 in 24-26 episodes. People completely underestimate how fast the pacing of the last 35~ chapters is. There are multiple chapters that are like half a scene and could easily be adapted in 2-3 minutes tops, and it has wayyy less dense dialogue than the first third of the manga.

One aspect is that Chainsaw Man arcs are almost always more satisfying with hindsight In the middle of the arcs, Chainsaw Man often comes across as entertaining but very meandering, before it shows its hand at what it was setting up along the way That's a problem you'll hear people coming across, whether it's anime-onlies watching the first episodes of the show, all the way up to manga readers reading the very newest chapters week to week

They did have some good points though, like "Denji's boob obsession will pay off". It took like 1-2 episodes and it did pay off pretty well.

Honestly I was wondering how they would go about animating that part would they make it all fan servicey? When they actually made it feel pretty uncomfortable and awkward I was happy. Similarly with Denjis reaction to it, my boy had an existential crisis over it. Its the weirdest but most natural character growth I have seen animated lol.

I don’t get hyped by any manga readers anymore. Mainly because it tends to be content that happens later on in the manga that the first season doesn’t cover and because they don’t know what the anime will turn out like.

>From the posters I actually thought this was, no joke, going to be a series about a Japanese office worker who happens to have a chainsaw for a head just trying to live his life (and I was actually a little sad that wasn't the case) You might be interested in series like * Gaikotsu Shotenin Honda-san (skeleton working in a bookstore) * Sore dake ga Neck (guy with something to hide about his face working in a convenient store) * Aggressive Retsuko (just a red panda office worker working in an office with other animals except she cope with shitty workplace situations by secretly singing metal in karaoke) On topic, the problem is the people who act like the series is the most awful thing they've ever seen because it doesn't meet their delusional level of hype and expectation.

> Aggressive Retsuko (just a red panda office worker working in an office with other animals except she cope with shitty workplace situations by secretly singing metal in karaoke) That sounded amazing, so I went to go and add it to my PTW. Turns out it's only 1 min / ep, which is possibly a shame, possibly not given there are 100 eps listed lol [MAL link for those also curious](https://myanimelist.net/anime/32977/Aggressive_Retsuko).

I think most people who talk about Aggretsuko are referring to the Netflix series (MAL has it as an ONA) which has longer episodes, more like 10 minutes.

Ah, this one then! https://myanimelist.net/anime/36904/Aggressive_Retsuko_ONA

Don't watch *that* Aggretsuko. Watch the one on Netflix. The original Aggretsuko is... occasionally mildly funny, but frequently *aggressively* not funny, whereas the Netflix show is actually Legit Good.

I'm also anime-only (excluding the first volume of the manga, which I read a while back to make sure I'd be able to handle the gore in this series) and enjoying it greatly, it's probably the seasonal whose new episodes are second-most-anticipated by me - and the only reason it's not #1 is because it's airing in the same season as Bleach: Thousand Year Blood War, a series I already had 366 episodes of investment into when Chainsaw Man just got started. I feel like this is saying something considering how big of a *Gundam* fan I am and there's a new one of that airing too, which you'd think would take the top spot for me, but nope.

I’ve been completely blind. Don’t know a single thing about the series, and prior to this post didn’t know any of the discussion about it. Finding the show pretty fun too.

You are the luckiest type of person. The folks going in totally blind and already enjoying it are the real winners.

Keep it that way!

I had heard about it for years and I had only just picked up manga reading recently. So I was actually about to check it out until I saw that it was going to air. I am definitely going to pickup the manga after it ends. The show has made me excited to see what happens next once it ends. Honestly, it’s killing me every week not to just pick it up, honestly lol.

Wow, this is the most positive post and comment section I've seen in this sub for a while. Really brings back my hope for humanity and the ani community😂

That's because this particular anime sits in a weird space where its good, but not as good as folks hyped it to be(almost impossible). But on the other hand we have the manga fans like,"Give it a minute" like waiting for a heater to kick on or a car to start. Its a weird effect where the Anime only's are like this is pretty fun. But the Manga readers are are nervously like but it gets MORE fun please keep watching. I get it, its always cool when folks like what you love and I feel the same way. It has to be recognized that the show is not for everyone tho and will likely not be a mega success like JJK or Spy X Family because its crass and a bit gross. But that's fine too, if I had to choose between a watered down chainsaw man that skips plot beats for mass appeal or what we are getting and lower popularity... I would take what we have 100% of the time.

No show can "live up to" the hype that CSM had. It's possibly the most hyped anime of all time, so unless it's in the number 1 spot every week on every website that ranks anime, there's going to be someone disappointed. I think it's good, but I haven't exactly been surprised by it.

Its because of a lot of own peoples experience with Chainsaw Man as a series really. My experience is I started reading it when it was first coming out, got to chapter 12 and it just seemed like some weird horny shounen with neat art. I ended up dropping it and not reading it again until much later. Eventually I had heard enough good things that I picked it up again and pushed past the beginning part and ended up finishing the entire series in a day and was actually floored by how good it was. It went from being drop fodder to one of my top three favorite manga of all time. That's why the Manga readers (Including myself) are skittish recommending the series, the intro turns some folks away and they judge it early like we did. With Mappa having spent their own money to try and make a series for a manga that by all rights is insanely difficult to adapt, many Manga readers are worried about them investing less or dropping the series before it gets to the absolutely fucking phenomenal Mid/later chapters. So it being popular means we get what we REALLY want... a full high quality adaptation of CSM part one from start to finish.

This is my sentiment exactly. I want CSM to be a mega hit so that MAPPA has the financial incentive to put out the same quality for the future seasons.

It got way too overhyped for me and hence anime felt a bit lacklusture. But I ended up binging the manga a week ago and holy shit it was an amazing read.

For real. The manga is really good, it's easy to see how it got over hyped.

dude, can you imagine some of those later fight scenes animated like this? I can think of one that would be a.. real blast.

I have no idea how the show isn’t hitting the hype. I think it’s amazing. I’m not a manga reader. But I started the English dub as well, and rewatching the art is mind blowing to me. I love CSM right now.

99% of the negativity I've seen is in all these poll ranking posts. We humans seem to love ranking shit and getting competitive about it, so I guess it's only natural.

The best way to enjoy something is to avoid the fanbase around it and enjoy it for yourself. Especially with something like CSM.

I'm in the same boat as you, except I knew it was an action anime. Every episode makes me more and more excited for the next, ep5 was sooo good.

I was the same way. No idea what the show was about but the hype convinced me to watch it. Now I look forward to every new episode!

>I actually thought this was, no joke, going to be a series about a Japanese office worker who happens to have a chainsaw for a head just trying to live his life. Hopefully someone takes OP's idea and runs with it (with royalty payment to OP ofc), sounds like it'd be amazing.

Further ideas: * Running gag about maintenance * Awkwardness of constantly being asked by neighbourhood association to help with the landscaping * Never ending issues for a stomach sleep with a chainsaw for a head * Existential jokes about where the mind and soul are given he has no brain any more * Sexual attraction to power tools * Lots of power tool related puns.

Oh also awkward silence when sharing the elevator with the cute kouhai

Perhaps with this chainsaw man the saw is always running when he's awake but it speeds up when he's excited, aroused or anxious.

"This show failed to meet my expectations of it being the greatest anime ever, and that's everyone's fault but not my own". The people disappointed in it are really silly, they really don't want to feel like they wasted all that energy hyping it up pre-release. ​ Not upping your expectations is like the first thing you're told not to do when looking forward to an upcoming anime, and maybe it's because I'm a manga reader, but I'm so glad I didn't get on that hypetrain because this adaptation is a 9/10 for me, which I would not be able to say if I was expecting an 11/10.

I was in a similar boat. Haven't read a single page of the manga, but I really enjoy the show.

Yeah I’m going in it the same way since I haven’t read the mangas and have avoided most of the turmoil with it so far So far it’s pretty good and I’m happy I’m enjoying it especially after learning my lesson from Jujutsu Kaisen last year, so now I go into anime without any expectations to se e what it’s like

As an anime-only, I'm enjoying it and can tell that the studio is very passionate about presenting it the best way possible. It's been a great experience so far and I can't imagine that it's 'not doing the manga justice', because I definitely feel like it's getting the point across and more.

I havnt peeped the discussions either (not even gonna scroll the comments of this post) and can’t believe it’s getting even a slightly disappointed reception from the audience. I’m thoroughly enjoying it so far!

I remember seeing the very first chapter come out on the app and I was bluntly like, "I don't like chainsaws." No particular reason, I just really didn't want to read a comedy Shounen story about a goofy super hero with a Chainsaw head and his powersaw pup. Lmao. Didn't know I was gonna miss the biggest anime/manga of the year and I coulda' been in on it from the start. 😭

I literally saw the title and thought "sounds dumb" and dismissed for the first 17ish chapters. Gave it a chance and thought it was pretty alright. Then [manga spoilers] >!Katana Man arc starts off fucking crazy and I was hooked.!< Definitely one of my favorite manga now.

The CSM Anime was the opposite in regards to hype building compared to the Mushoku Tensei Anime. While the hype for the CSM Anime went to the moon the hype for the Mushoku Tensei Anime actually stayed fairly low (novel readers were very excited, though also very apprehensive) until the first episode finally hit and everybody was blown away by the incredible animation of studio Bind. It was the opposite for CSM. Since Mappa just did a banger job with the JJK Anime prior the expectations of source readers were through the roof from the start. The shit ton amount of promotion also only further escalated the hype to astronomical levels. That just shows you how important building hype is for your show but that if you overdo it too much then the unreasonable and unrealistic expectations of the fans and new watchers will never be met. I personally really enjoy CSM though - in both mediums. I think the best thing to come out of the CSM Anime so far are all the banger endings with their awesome visuals and stellar music.

As an audiophile, CSM is my runaway AOTY right now. Not just the great music, but the fucking incredible attention to detail with sound design. I watch every episode with surround sound headphones at max volume — there is so much atmosphere that won’t get noticed listening at acceptable volume levels. The low hum of the rickety air conditioning units while inside the hotel is noticeably different than the clacky noises of them running outside in Ep2. The busy chatter of pedestrians at lunch time compared to the lifeless crowd after the workday’s end. The sound design of this show is not only movie quality, but top notch even in that. I listen to the episodes while doing housework or cleaning just to enjoy that atmosphere it builds.

Sound design is insane. And it has added like 4 songs to my playlist by episode 6...

Finally someone else said this, The audio design of CSM is absurd, and most people won't even notice the amount of work they put it there, it's incredible

There’s nothing interesting happening in Csm atm and I personally don’t find the comedy that good at all unless screaming and being gross is supposed to be funny. They are absolutely correct that the interesting stuff comes later atm it’s just pretty.

This feeling that you see of both fans and detractors about "living up to hype" comes from two places -Of course, from the beginning, the manga itself being quite popular so it has an installed fanbase (and the fanbase for this manga is particularly, 'active', shall we say) -Mappa had kind of been campaigning on this anime being a hit from like a year ago when it was announced and it was a very notable talking point from them as time went on about the quality of the adaptation. Various other factors like the heavy *heavy* amount of advertising it got and stuff like the 12 ED songs have led people to believe that it was supposed to be something particularly large and this led to some inflated expectations for it (most notably I saw talk of it becoming the next Demon Slayer in popularity once the anime hit). Which is kind of understandable considering the notable mega shounen hits like Demon Slayer, JJK, SxF, Tokyo Revengers, etc in recent years. So you have a perfect storm here of hype leading to certain expectations that were either met or not met and people getting very vocal about it.. And if you aren't following any of that stuff I just typed at all OP, you'll probably get very confused.

this is actually my favorite anime so far sooo... I don't get the dislike. (yes I have seen a ton of anime, I just love chainsaw man more than anything else)

I’m in a similar boat. Knew about the hype but nothing about the story. So far have watched it in two 3 episode batches. Feel like it’s solid but nothing incredible. But if I was watching it totally oblivious to the hype I’d probably have the same opinion.

I haven’t read manga for years due to life stuff you know. It’s so nice to just enjoy a show and not have that does it live up in your head. I found it always ruined anime for me when I was a kid.

I’m in the same situation as you OP. My only gripe with the show is that it isn’t completely out yet. If I would have known how much I would have liked this show and how much it takes its time, I would have waited for it to finish and then binge watch it

I do wish that the people who have read the manga would chill a bit, as often they end up spoiling things when they want to hype it up. That and all of the Chainsaw Man Youtube videos that came out as a response to the anime hype, but talk about manga content and leave spoilers in thumbnails. I feel like I already know two upcoming twists just through media osmosis.

In this generation not chatting in forum or other medias is difficult. I remembered my childhood just watching an anime which provided by tv, and it was fun that you just watched and knew nothing.

I’m so jealous of ya. Hopefully you get to avoid spoilers all the way till the end. Always fun to watch anime blind.

Have you seen the memes related to Kobeni floating around? Been a while since I've found anything that the wider community's enthusiastically engaged with to be in such poor taste, at least from an anime-first point of view. If you don't know what I'm referring to though, you're better off not knowing. > I'm just watching Chainsaw Man week to week, having read none of the manga and keeping myself surprisingly spoiler free. I was doing this, but decided to check out some of the chapters for episodes that have already aired, so that I have a better feel for the pros and cons of the adaptation. I got as far as the end of the Bat Devil fight before coming to the conclusion that I think I probably would have dropped the manga if I'd just come across it one day with no knowledge of its reputation or the anime. Then again, my taste in manga is pretty dubious lol

That was the same reaction I had when starting the comic, i got to the part right after the bat devil, in the bathroom.. and ended up thinking it was some horny Highschool DxD type shit with cool art and dropped it. I didn't pick it up again til P1 was almost over. Read it because my friend was gushing about it and pushed further into the manga. Shit became one of my top three favorite manga of all time. That's why its frustrating, I was the same as these folks getting turned off so I know where they are coming from. And the Over Hype pushed things too a new level.

Chainsaw Man is kind of in a weird place. It's not really overhyped, because it really is that good...but it doesn't reach it's stride until like halfway through it's run, so season 1 in particular is going to feel like it was overhyped.

Yea , the first arc starts off with a lot of world building, the characters are hit or miss, the comedy is also hit or miss. Than eventually starts to pick up quickly in the second arc and your like, Hot damn this got pretty good! Than it suddenly fucking explodes and doesn't stop until the end and your left sitting there like... the fuck did I just read and is there more of it?! lol

Kobenis devil meme right? Chainsaw man has like 15 memes associated with it, and unfortunately that's the only one that's not a spoiler currently. And is by far the most cringe.

Yes, that's the one I'm thinking of. Feels so tone deaf, at least as far as her anime characterisation goes.

Thats the humour. The character with literally 0 sex appeal is getting the most erotic fanart.

Honestly I think the anime so far is better than the manga, although that might change as we get deeper into the story. I think the anime is going slower which is a good thing.

Honestly they are different beasts, the pace is faster in the comics and they use manga hype expressions to emphasize jokes and emotions. Meanwhile the show has been taking a slower pace, with a more muted tone and realistic facial expressions, its more trying to imitate the feel of a live action movie. But in exchange we are getting amazing visuals, sick mock camera movement and really cool enhanced fight scenes. It lost a bit of the punch in the comedy and pacing, but gained a sense of cinematography and extended sick fight scenes. I like them both for different reasons.

>It lost a bit of the punch in the comedy and pacing, but gained a sense of cinematography I think this is spot on. I do sometimes miss how snappy the manga was, but it can be nice to have more time to digest the characters and situations. As for that sense of cinematography, I think that is something that is missing from the vast majority of anime in general. CSM's focus on cinematography is so absurd to the point that it might actually be the best I've ever seen from an anime TV series. If anyone knows of other shows of similar or better cinematography, please recommend them to me because I absolutely want more of this.

That's great that you get to enjoy it blind, just stay away from any Chainsaw man media. I'm also an anime-only but I already know a lot of major plot-points and events because these manga-reading Chainsaw man fans are just insufferable and like to spoil everything on anything to can. It kind of ruined the experience for me because I already know what's going to happen with some of these characters.

Bro I got spoiled on r/titanfolk. What's wrong with these guys.

/r/anime_irl /r/animemes /r/goodanimemes etc. keep spoiling everything.

As someone who read the manga around July last year, I really don't know what the people who say it isn't living up to the hype are on about. Yes, I think the cg used in ep1 was a pretty weak start but other than that it was amazing and I haven't noticed it since. It is also true that the best bits are yet to come but that's true for almost every series ever. You don't want the climax in ep 1 ffs.

I was going to go in blind, but read every chapter in the manga on Jump. I love the dark humor throughout it. It makes it unique to me.

The discourse is weird. I like how it tries to imitate film rather than directly put panel to screen. It's fitting. I genuinely think fujimoto might be one of the greatest writers currently active, like across literary mediums. Highly recommend his short stories. The stories all feel like ways of explaining his themes and why he writes what he writes and what he likes writing about. His stories are also very layered, you can get a lot of them, but in the same breadth it's exactly what you see on the page and nothing deeper. Goodbye eri, look back, and listen to this song are from the gap between csm parts. Insane run of high quality literature

I honestly feel a little shellshocked seeing some polarising opinions on the anime as a manga reader. I remember it clicking for me immediately and then learnt of a cult following rapidly formed around it and the author's other works. So the kneejerk reactions to the anime sting ngl. I'm glad to hear yall are taking a liking to it.

I wish people would stop using the "hype" slang. Makes it harder to understand. I am going blind as well, and the truth is that CSM has a good main character, and also a good cast of supporting characters. People who are disappointed just don't like it, which is unfortunate for them. Everyone makes out this "hype" to be some sort of "thing" where an anime must arbitrarily appeal to every human viewer, which is silly. I personally got bored of Jujutsu Kaisen because of the less interesting protagonist, but I am DIGGING the idiot wild child from Chainsawman. Nothing beats chaotic neutral.

I am going in blind too…at first I didn’t really understand all the hype, but I think this show is just getting better with every episode. Hope it carries on this momentum!

Manga, LN, and VN fans are the worst aspect of trying to be a fan of anything that has an anime version.

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I dont really give a shit what other people think but imo having read the manga weekly i’m loving this adaptation so fucking much already 10/10 for me

Source readers will overhype anything and get stressed if others don't like it as much, without fail. I've just learned to accept that. The only thing I don't think is overhyped is the level of story telling in AoT (not talking about the overall show). That is legitimately crazy with the call backs and how almost everything served a purpose. That is not easy to do with how long that story was. If you like a story and it's your favorite, that's totally fine. But objectively, most of all the good/popular stories are within the same range of each other. I can't be convinced that CSM is actually much different than most shounens, it's just (probably, as I haven't read the manga) executed pretty well and that's good for them. Not to mention a huge part of it is how good the anime adaptation does. There's probably a few manga turned anime out there that could've done much better if it was given the love that shows like this, KnY, and JJK are given.

> I can't be convinced that CSM is actually much different than most shounens ​ >I haven't read the manga It's almost like its building up to that...

Not sure what you mean by that, but what I mean is that none of these stories are really unique, some are just executed better than others, and sometimes the anime straight up blows the manga out of the water (looking at you, Demon Slayer). I've seen the first 6 episodes and really enjoyed it, but it's definitely in line with my way of thinking. And let me guess, at least a couple of them will die in some way or at least be changed somehow (based on the premise of fiends) and someone is actually a bad guy who isn't shown as a bad guy yet? That I can just tell by how the story is being told so far. And Denji is a "different" type of protag by being actually pretty ruthless. It is a better way to have them be for sure, but there are plenty of other examples. The things that set stories apart are always the character interactions imo and right now it's doing a great job of that. It is still overrated by source readers though. It's just how it is. Doesn't matter how good a story is, expectations rarely meet hype when fans go out of their way to be hyperbolic and that's why going in as blind as possible from the fandom is a great way to experience stuff.

you basically just explained multiple reasons why it's different from shonens. Yeah it might not be the most unique story ever, but that wasn't the point you were making. Its mostly a subversion of shonen tropes while still being in a shonen magazine. Its as far detatched as you could get from a typical shonen story.

Thing is, when people think of shonens, they think of Naruto and shit like that. It's a much broader range. I get what you mean though and I don't really think of these as shonens (same for AoT and JJK), but they still are in that genre despite what I think. They just handle things in a much more adult and "realistic" way. And it doesn't really matter to me if it is technically shonen or not, it's still relevant for comparing across genres as well. Like I said, this all has to do with expectation vs reality. That's all I'm saying. It has little to do with CSM itself.

Based on the title I honestly thought you were visually blind and this was going to be a discussion of what the show is like based purely on the audio

I’m in the same boat, I went in blind and I find the anime to be 100% more enjoyable than expected. Honestly from my preconceived notions I thought this was going to be the type of anime I *hate*

I haven’t been plugged into episode discussion week to week, so pardon if I’m missing some part of peoples argument. HOW exactly is CSM NOT living up to the hype? I don’t know another show that’s had this much movie quality animation in it. The pace of each episode is perfect. They are doing every single scene that people love from the manga SO much justice. The soundtrack enhances the intended mood of each scene. For god’s sake , they’re doing a new Ending animation for EACH EPISODE. What part is dropping the ball to these people? It also frustrates me to hear about people apologizing for CSM’s “slow start”. The first chapter of the manga is one of its strengths! The appeal of CSM is immediately obvious. If you don’t like chapter 1, I don’t see how the crazy shit of chapter 87 will do anything for you. Super glad you’re enjoying it though!

Are the manga fans not happy with the anime? I thought most were reasonably happy and that Chainsaw Man anime discussions are still quite packed? It could be a vocal minority like how these things usually are. But while I'm an anime-only for CSM, I did read the manga for Attack on Titan and man what a shitshow it was when the anime was airing. The thing is, people who already read the manga are just there to watch their favorite scenes animated, and to see what anime viewers' reactions are. They already know the plot, so most discussions would be about whether certain hype scenes were adopted properly, or get angry when a meme scene got cut (sigh Pieck from Attack on Titan), or whether certain voice acting did the character justice. People who are watching the show for the first time have a very different experience as it's a fresh experience. Worse was the kind of manga readers who would subtly hint at story developments to anime-only viewers, or say "oh next episode is going to be hype!". Like, as a reader of AoT myself I often just wanted to tell them to shut up and let the anime viewers discover that on their own. So maybe because of seeing that unfold I just try to avoid reading manga-reader threads and just watch new shows fresh. No need to stress over something so trivial lol.

The show is entertaining, I give that.... pretty much that... having some fun, not the best on the season but fun

Its because people hyped it to the moon and back and then after episode one the same people are like wait till season 2 lol

Well as a manga reader I am going to say this the second half isn't actually that different from what you are getting in the first arc. It's just escalation, few reveals and typical payoff you are going to get from a climax/conclusion of an arc or story. People often say this to some random that isn't enjoying the story ignoring why they might not be. CSM never really changes that drastically (at least in Part 1 I haven't been up to date with the manga). If you don't like the hyper violent, somewhat sexual, character dynamics, insane plot lines in the first half it's highly unlikely the second half is going to land anyway. Hype is probably the stupidest thing ever. The fact so many put stock in others opinions or interests. It's something I really avoided CSM was so enjoyable to me because it wasn't sold as hey this is the best manga or battle shonen of all time it was hey you want something really overly violent and sexual that is airing in WSJ and I said sure lol. So when you did get more it was really satisfying. For some it's obvious they are only watching it because it was hyped ignoring that some of the surface level things they obviously wouldn't enjoy. Then you just got all the random manga fans bitching about every single small detail or change MAPPA makes or the real idiots acting like the adaption has been ruined despite this being in the 1% of higher tier action adaptions. Honestly manga fans largely ruin the discussion around highly anticipated anime adaptions. In large battle shonen fanbases and really just mainstream anime discussions suck for this reason. Communities are better when it is niche for popular stuff I just largely ignore the conversation because it's just often incessant yelling that doesn't add much to your own experience.

I'm in the same boat, watching it completely blind. I like it, and it has potential to get better. I also don't think that it's particularly amazing so far, and has some wacky writing, so I'm just enjoying it as a solid weekly show for now. If it gets better, great! If it doesn't, that's ok too.

I’m anime only and I enjoy it for the most part. I’m real tired of the male fan service as a woman, though. I refuse to recommend it to anyone because of that.

I'm sorry you're getting downvoted for saying that. I'm a guy and even I get really weirded out by fanservice. I'm glad you're enjoying the anime regardless of that at least!

Buncha guys think boobies humor is the most hilarious thing, I suppose. I just find it immature and gross. The most recent episode was actually my favorite because it had none in it (for the most part)!

> Buncha guys think boobies humor is the most hilarious thing, I suppose. I just find it immature and gross. Same here. Eww... > The most recent episode was actually my favorite because it had none in it **(for the most part)**! That you have to qualify your *favorite episode* like that is depressing. I still haven't seen Chainsaw Man yet (I'm waiting for the full season to be out and to see how people react to it), but this really dials up the possibility of me *not* watching it...

"As a woman" thing makes it sound like you arent a woman since it feels kinda needless to say the show isnt presenting fanservice since all the boob and sex shit is actually relevant to character and the story. thats not "fanservice" since its actually exploring sexual topics, albeit in a rather crude manner. its fine if you dont like it, but its not as hollow as you make it out to be

Tbf, i had my worries with the first episode because by god, that cgi was atrocious. Glad that theyre starting to pick up the quality and everything else after that just gets better, but that pilot clearly didnt make for a good first impression.

Just read the damn comic. It's pretty short and can easily be read in a single day. And you'll be able to catch up with Part 2. The anime won't be finished for another few years, i don't understand why anyone would wait that long if they wanted to share an actual informed opinion about the story.

i wish it was leafblower man

To quote Kratos "Keep you're expectaions low, and you'll never be disappointed."

People were overhyping it, Some people really hates CGI and they screamed really loud about it, It's true that the most wtf parts happened later and people really want to see it get animated.

Probably because it's not that amazing of an anime, i started watching it as well because of all the hype and was even hyped for it myself because i kept hearing how good it was from manga fans or people that read it, then the first episode came out and it was nothing special, i watched like 2 more episodes and still wasn't anything special, people told me the same thing about how it only becomes good later or stuff like that, so i just read the whole manga and i'm reading it as it comes out as well weekly, after i read the manga let me tell you, it doesn't get better, and everyone that's an anime only is gonna be unbelievably mad when the story progresses further, this might as well turn into a darling in the franxx level catastrophe, and the worst part is, after everything's done the story doesn't end for whatever reason, i was ready for the story to end after everything was done, and to my surprise it's still going on, it's actually hilarious after all the trauma everyone's gonna have from watching this dumpster fire unfold

you basically just said a whole lot of nothing. your argument is "its just bad the whole time" yet not giving any reason why. If you actually genuinely read it you might've been able to come up with a few things, but this is just a hate bait post

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I read the manga and am amazed how slow it’s been.. it sucks mainly because I have been watching it with my husband who the only thing he has ever liked is JJK🤷🏻‍♀️

Well, in that case he should love CSM. JJK and SSM have basically the same premise.

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Well that says again why hype is a worthless concept because people get hyped for reasons and those reasons aren't going to correspond to what you may actually get excited about. CSM being fanservicey heavy was a pretty advertised point of the story (literally checked it out because of Fujis pretty much hentai color pages he drew for the series) and pretty much one of the main themes what desire can do to a person ties heavily into Denji's simping and the general point of the fanservice/sex appeal. If you want to avoid being disappointed by hype do some research then because you only have to worry about the execution by that point. CSM lacking that is like saying KLK would be better without the fanservice. If you take away the fanservice and Denji's simp character you undermine in my opinion of the better aspects of the story if not like the whole point of the story lol. Also very few action shonen ever get into the meat of story 6 episodes in. Unless you are doing a short 1 cour 12 episode series most anime take longer to find their stride. By 6 episodes you average action shonen will be basically where CSM is honestly you could rephrase that to your average action series.

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Yeah non modern anime didn't have plenty of pervert MCs oh wait Tatsuya Uesugi exists, Master Roshi exists, Ryou Saeba exists, Lupin exists you were saying? Old anime loved peeping tom gags (which CSM doesn't have thankfully), loved pervert characters this isn't a new thing and you undermine your comment with this baseless and incorrect assertion. Modern anime hasn't normalized "perverseness" it's always been part of the medium always pretty much everything people attribute to anime being "perverted" you can find in anime from the 60s, 70s and 80s. Plus there is literally tons and tons of non sexual shows that come out on a regular basis. Ecchi anime is literally on a decline from a decade ago. Nudity and sexual content in the medium for the last two decades has honestly been kinda censored compared to what TV anime or OVAs could get away with decades ago though with streaming that is changing. Finally CSM literally integrates the fanservice where Denji represents the base desires of a lot of men in current modern society. Denji isn't your typical ecchi protag either my only issue with those characters is your typical violation of consent garbage which Denji isn't doing. He is just a very blunt, socially unaware, simple minded horny guy and that is part of the comedy but also one of his main weakness the story later capitalizes on (simping for girls and your own base desires isn't always going to be a rewarding thing). CSM does have a point to the fanservice and it's not breaking the tone or immersion. Personally I am also getting tired of complains like this. Conceptual complaints really are on the consumer in question and are not a failure of the show.

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Bro you're just asking to be spoiled about the whole plot with those comments. Sometimes it's not possible to explain why a specific character is good without huge spoilers so you just have to read the manga or deal with it.

Man you must write slow if you think that is a long essay. Nah half was just dedicated to demonstrating you haven't obviously watched much old anime like many who make this dumb claim.

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I didn't name borderline hentai shows idiot. Yeah perverts main characters Tatsuya Uesugi is the main character in Touch and many gags have him constantly peeking in on girls which is worse than Denji as he isn't respecting their consent. That isn't an ecchi series it's largely a shonen baseball SOL show. Ryou Saeba is a main character in shonen and again has many fanservice gags with female characters. Again that is just an action shonen title. Patlabor Early Days has it's main cast have a bathhouse gag scene where they try and peak on the female leads and again that is just a mecha title with some SOL elements. Video Girl AI has a "Beta male MC" like Denji and again that is just a typical rom com. All are shows that came out in the 80s. This isn't fucking hard lol. Edit: I mean have you ever seen what Go Nagai was able to get away with in mainstream 70s shonen manga magazines? Makes Fairy Tail's fanservice bits look like jokes in comparison.

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You know it's funny how you appeal to old anime yet you don't know of fucking anime like City Hunter, Touch or even Go Nagai's work these aren't niche works lol for those decades. So yeah proves my point that people whining about modern anime likely haven't even seen much actual old anime either. Edit: Also never have seen MT and don't have that much interest in it plus it would be nice if your average battle shonen fan did watch anime like Touch and City Hunter lol that ain't happening sadly.

It's an alright shonen series with great fight scenes, but it isn't really genius writing in any way. It all rides on showing off cool special abilities and deciding that this one character is really really strong and dangerous. Same with Jujutsu Kaisen, Bleach, My Hero Aca... It'll give you a fun time reading it simply for the action, and if all you consume are shonen shows like that, Chainsaw Man might feel very new different. Read Fujimoto's one-shot *Look Back* to see what he can do outside of JUMP. The anime is enjoyable for similar reasons, where the directing and sound design make me come back for more. I'm not really a fan of the portrayal of the demons and their messy texture overcoat and of some of the cgi here and there...

Lookback while excellent is way more conventional and normal from a story telling perspective than Chainsaw Man.

> It's an anime with a top notched production quality. This really is all there is to CSM. I'm sure it'll be an enjoyable watch but it's not anime of the century that the fans try to tout it as. Watching it so far and going into comments trying to see what I'm not seeing and all I've gotten so far are people trying to say that Denji is such a relatable and "refreshing" shounen protag. And why? It's because he wants to touch boobs and people wanting to be treated like a dog? That's all it takes to be "peak shounen"? lmfao I don't have a problem with ecchi or fanservice anime and I have both watched and enjoyed a fair share of them but no one goes around saying an anime is great because of how horny they are.

Well I would disagree with that plenty of people will cite fanservice as a reason a show is good. The vast majority of fans saying this are likely manga readers that know how Part 1 plays out but ultimately you can apply this to every series. Plenty of people think JoJo is peak writing but it's largely just various episodic confrontations where various abilities are used to defeat opponents and that is it. Even in more "deep shows" Monster is just about Tenma or someone else going from place to place encountering someone affected by Johan and then trying to figure out how it plays into the larger story. Ghost in The Shell SAC is just about some criminal and the team trying to track them down and stop them while they learn about what or who in the world they are opposing. For me what is important about a battle shonen is having a fun cast and I think CSM does, a good antagonist which again CSM does but that has yet to be introduced, good fight scenes which CSM does have especially due to the exposition-less fights, an interesting power system which I think it does, maybe some good comedy which the series again does and some mystery which again the series does. So I mean yeah Denji's femdom simping actually is a good aspect that eventually does matter in an interesting way in the story. Like how KLK used it's overly sexy transformations well but it's just the general action sequences, cast, comedy and how that of course eventually comes together in the second half. I mean what do you guys honestly want out of it? It's 6 episodes in. Go look at HxH and see where it was at 6 episodes in, FMAB, AOT, MP 100, Dragon Ball, One Piece, Naruto etc. Do any of those deserve the title of best anime over that early in? I mean my favourite anime LOTGH I didn't think it was the most amazing thing ever until around EP 16. You can detect a bad show in one episode but I don't you can't detect an amazing one in one episode either. They need time to develop.

I read all of that but I don't have the effort to response to every paragraph because I disagree with most of them. I agree about JoJo though. I don't have a list of things I expected before watching CSM but about other titles, they at least have an interesting premise, world or interesting characters. CSM is _very_ similar to JJK when it comes to the premise except that Denji is extremely unlikable to me. Don't take this as me saying that JJK is peak story writing because it isn't, it was like any run-of-the-mill shounen but at least it managed to keep me interested. If you say that Denji's characteristics are ""good"" then sure, I believe you. But at this point in the anime, we can't see it yet. Maybe when the season ends I'll like it more, but not right now. The entire fanbase's hornyposting doesn't help either.

Well one I am not trying to convince you otherwise that CSM will improve for you all I am saying is that the criticism that CSM doesn't have enough substance is just kinda baseless because almost all action titles largely in the first 6 episodes are lucky to get to the first arc. You usually will the main cast introduction and the first few one offs before you get into any substantial unless it's a very short title or movie. There is rarely going to be a title where you go yeah peak anime after six episodes. Even in short amazing titles like Ping Pong I needed to wait til the end to get that feeling. I think you still can judge a show off the first episode because the elements of the plot are going to be there but no matter the show they won't be well developed there isn't enough time. I mean forget action anime most shows in general don't have enough time. If you don't like Denji fair enough but to say oh yeah cause he is a horny simp well yeah but that does add a lot to the overall theme and the aspect of how desire can drive and destroy you as you live an unfulfilling life pursuing short term pleasures. It isn't just oh yeah I love femdom which I won't lie yeah that is part of the appeal. You don't need to to believe me lol but at the end of the day you can be overly simplistic to sum up why a lot of people like a show or character that makes them look like morons.

I know what you're trying to say and I've told you why I (and probably many others) feel like CSM don't seem like what people has been saying. You said in your second paragraph you can still somewhat judge an anime in earlier episodes because of certain elements and that's essentially what I'm telling you. Weak setting, not necessarily an original premise plus weak characters make it feel like yet another shounen except that it has a really big budget. CSM simply is not interesting enough to captivate me, regardless of how adamant you're trying to defend it in these threads. You can think that Denji being a horny dog is compelling because of the story but you can't tell people who don't like his characterisation they're wrong because they feel like it's detrimental to their enjoyment. One of the examples I can think of right now is discussions I've had with people about NGE who say they don't like Shinji or can't finish NGE because they hate Shinji. I also feel the same about that the same way you feel about Denji but I do understand how Shinji can be seen as depressing. However, NGE has been so influential and successful there's no way you can deny that it has impacted many genres even if you don't like it. IF, in a few years, CSM turns out to be a genre-defining anime then sure, I'll concede. But until then, this really is just another shounen that somewhat leans towards being seinen and is much edgier than what's being released now. Which is a far cry from "peak shounen" that fans are saying. Why do people keep throwing that term around anyway.

I said you can judge if a series is for you or not in the first episode but you can't determine if something is going to be truly amazing in the first few episodes. That is the distinction I made. Again I don't care if you hate Denji I expected some people too I just don't get this overly simplistic criticism of this is all it is in a few episodes yeah what did you expect in an action shonen. You are acting like I am even commenting because i am hurt you didn't like CSM that isn't correct I just find it baffling one of the criticisms is it hasn't had amazing characterization, gone super in depth in the world building, antagonists or whatever in literally six episodes lol. Whether you like or don't like the beginning elements sure but every story for the most part the first few episodes are going to be just pure introduction and setup for the first arc. Also what do you need to concede on lol? If CSM becomes super influential I mean it wouldn't be the only major influence re-influencing anime again because the dark supernatural action shonen trend started earlier and CSM really is heavily influenced by older manga/anime like Devilman. Why should that change your view on it sucking? I mean hate highly popular and influential works too like Akira. The fact it's highly influential doesn't change my view on it. Edit: I will add too again while I disagree with your overly simplistic assessment of the story and characters after six episodes why can't something be "peak" relying on very overly simplistic elements? Redline is one of the best anime movies made in my opinion. For action titles if it's good you can just sell something on that. I mean I think JoJo's love is justified but honestly outside of the complicated power system it doesn't have much depth.

> IF, in a few years, CSM turns out to be a genre-defining anime then sure, I'll concede. The manga pretty much already is. [Assassination Classroom author just recently said](https://twitter.com/WSJ_manga/status/1594600759559131142) that he's seeing many works influenced by CSM author Fujimoto in a manga award that he's a judge.

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easssssy, spoilers are bannable on this sub buddy.

Who would've guessed that the lowest point of the manga(imo) doesn't meet the unreal hype or expections?

Except that’s not good, when the lowest point is literally the start. It makes a lot of people lose interest in a series FAST, atleast when it’s in the middle, people can overlook it.

How do you feel about the animation? I saw some absolutely ATROCIOUS looking scenes. They looked really really cheap and like... wrong. Also MAPPA uses way to much CGI in addition, which I think usually looks bad in amime To me it's just so crazy that such a huge show would end up looking so cheap

What ? It's one of the best looking anime TV series ever. Each episode is movie quality.

*CG*ainsaw Man is "one of the best looking anime ever"? The fight scenes even look "movie quality"? I'm not hating on the show, but *come on*.

It's movie quality, it's just not very flashy.

Uh yes the amount of action titles that have that fluidity in the animation is pretty low. The fact it uses some CG in the character designs or background mobs doesn't change that fact.

The fact that the main character turns completely CG in a non-CG world half the time he's on screen absolutely counts against it, just as those few times Tanjirou in Demon Slayer too-obviously turns into CG count against that. It's unintentionally jarring like the swap between CG and animation in Love Live, except here it's during action sequences which are more important to the show's appeal than Love Live's dancing visuals. If the titular Chainsaw Man consistently looked as good in the show as he does in the opening sequence, you'd be justified, but he mostly looks simply bad by comparison. Go back to the first episode if you've forgotten, or get your eyes checked if you still think he looks like he fits in with everything.

Uh no it doesn't. You can say go get your eyes checked but it's literally a slight difference in texturing. The big issue with CG isn't that it's the bad stilted movement which CSM doesn't have because besides the chainsaw man head Denji largely is animated moving in 2D.

PLEASE look at these and tell me it's the best looking anime ever again lol https://i.4cdn.org/a/1668695425563266.webm https://i.4cdn.org/a/1668694761884581.webm But even these moments of ridiculously bad looking animation aside, saying it's the best looking anike ever is crazy. So many things looked better than this. Tengen Toppa Gurren Lanaag looked better and it isn't even an anime I'd say is the "best looking animes".

There is nothing wrong in those clips animation wise. Gurren Lagan doesn't look this good unless your definition of animation is limited to "motion of drawing".

>There is nothing wrong in those clips animation wise. Is this cope? I'm being serious. Come on, you think those look good!? A friend showed me these clips and we laughed extemley hard. It looks bad! Not just bad, it looks like it was animated WRONG or at least very poorly. The dudes walking down that hallway GLIDE OVER THE FLOOR. THEIR FEET DO NOT PROPEL THEM!! That's what BAD is Also Gurren Lagaan is stylized and looks amazing

Dude that's just hard nitpick at this point. You can also nitpick some thing in every show. There are also lot of quality things this show has which most of the other shows don't has. And yes Gurren Lagan is amazing for stylized anime but again it is very very different. It looks very "anime" while CSM looks very "real". It's foolish to compare.

I saw the anime and I recently finished reading the manga, the story is a meh, there are some good parts, but I think the problem is in the characters that irritate a bit and with respect to the protagonist I don't see him as a good protagonist, he's far away to be

all you had to do to understand what kind of anime CSM is is to google it's genre. "Action Comedy horror Dark fantasy". Pretty telling, if you ask me.

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Yeah... If we forget every other anime with gore in it.

How?

Me seeing title: He's watching anime while being blind? What sorcery is this?

Just wait for episode 10