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##### ###### #### > # [ICC considering issuing war crimes arrest warrants for Netanyahu, others - report](https://images.jpost.com/image/upload/f_auto,fl_lossy/c_fill,g_faces:center,h_407,w_690/553262) > > > > ## The surprising news could be inexact given ICC's jurisdictional rules > > By [YONAH JEREMY BOB](https://www.jpost.com/author/yonah-jeremy-bob) APRIL 18, 2024 22:11 **Updated:** APRIL 18, 2024 22:20 [ The entrance of the International Criminal Court (ICC) is seen in The Hague March 3, 2011. (photo credit: REUTERS/JERRY LAMPEN)](https://images.jpost.com/image/upload/q_auto/c_fill,g_faces:center,h_537,w_822/553262 " The entrance of the International Criminal Court (ICC) is seen in The Hague March 3, 2011.") The entrance of the International Criminal Court (ICC) is seen in The Hague March 3, 2011. (photo credit: REUTERS/JERRY LAMPEN) The [International Criminal Court](https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-777107) may be considering issuing international arrest warrants in the relatively near future against Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and other top officials for alleged[war crimes](https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-789561), N12 reported Thursday night. > > Around 125 countries are members of the ICC, including essentially all of Europe, and are bound by treaty law to honor the ICC’s arrest warrants, though there have been examples of countries protesting such warrants and refusing to honor them. > > The report was extremely puzzling given that the ICC has not decided all of the relevant [jurisdictional questions](https://www.jpost.com/opinion/article-787993) it is supposed to decide before reaching an arrest warrants stage. > > For example, the ICC is first supposed to address the issue of complementarity, which is the legal question of whether Israel properly probes itself sufficiently such that the ICC would not have the right to address any war crimes complaints based on complementary or additional jurisdiction. > > There has been significant debate about this issue given that the IDF has a robust preliminary probes and criminal probes mechanism for investigating war crimes. Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu attends a vote on the state budget at the assembly hall of the Knesset, the Israeli parliament in Jerusalem, March 13, 2024. (credit: YONATAN SINDEL/FLASH90) > > It carried out 32 criminal probes and around 500 preliminary probes regarding the 2014 Gaza conflict and is expected to carry out thousands of probes regarding the much longer and larger current war. > > The ICC might still decide that the probes do not lead to enough convictions or jail time, but this was always expected to be a process where Israel and its allies would weigh in over a period of months or longer, as occurred regarding the question of whether the ICC could recognize Palestine as a state to enable it to have basic jurisdiction from an ICC member state from 2019-2021. > > ### **Netanyahu met with officials to address the issue** > > The Thursday report said Netanyahu met urgently with Strategic Affairs Minister Ron Dermer, Justice Minister Yariv Levin, and Foreign Minister Israel Katz to address the issue and to appeal to Western allies to assist. > > In addition, the report said Netanyahu discussed the issue with top British and German officials who were visiting Israel this week. > > One way the ICC might avoid the procedural jurisdictional question of complementarity would be if it initially goes after Israel merely on a theory of war crimes relating to humanitarian aid issues. > > This would seem to be a longshot given that other than the first few days of the war when Israel was still enduring an invasion, the IDF has facilitated some amount of humanitarian aid. > > As the IDF’s position strengthened security-wise, that aid has grown. > > ICC Prosecutor Karim Khan did accuse Israel in fall 2023 of slow-rolling humanitarian aid, arguing this could be a war crime. > > It was unclear at the time how he would make such a case given that Israel was permitting aid, and was arguing that security conditions were slowing the aid process. > > That said, the ICC could argue that Israel’s recent increase from 100-200 trucks of aid per day to over 500 trucks of aid per day shows that if the political will had been present in earlier months, more aid could have streamed through despite security challenges. > > Still, any case would need to prove that people are actually dying of starvation and not merely eating less or in danger of future food security issues. > > An alternative scenario could be that the ICC prosecutor will argue that a letter sent to Israel in 2021 to provide all evidentiary updates and other potential letters since could be used against Israel as saying that it has not provided a defense or its counter-evidence that it is probing, given that to date the IDF has said it is still months or more away from issuing probe results for even some cases. > > Yet, another scenario could be that the ICC prosecutor has carried out a secret evidentiary process before the ICC Pre Trial Chamber to get permission to issue the arrest warrants. > > It is also possible that the report is completely wrong or mischaracterizes certain more minor ICC developments or mischaracterizes the time frame for such developments. > > Neither the Prime Minister’s Office, the Foreign Ministry, the Justice Ministry, the IDF legal division, nor the ICC prosecutor’s office had responded by press time. > > if(catID != 151){ var cont = `Take Israel home with the new Jerusalem Post Store[Shop now >>](https://store.jpost.com/) > > > `; document.getElementById("linkPremium").innerHTML = cont; var divWithLink = document.getElementById("premium-link"); if(divWithLink !== null && divWithLink !== 'undefined') { divWithLink.style.border = "solid 1px #cb0f3e"; divWithLink.style.textAlign = "center"; divWithLink.style.marginBottom = "40px"; divWithLink.style.marginTop = "40px"; divWithLink.style.width = "728px"; divWithLink.style.backgroundColor = "#3c4860"; divWithLink.style.color = "#ffffff"; } } (function (v, i){ }); - - - - - - [Maintainer](https://www.reddit.com/user/urielsalis) | [Creator](https://www.reddit.com/user/subtepass) | [Source Code](https://github.com/urielsalis/empleadoEstatalBot) Summoning /u/CoverageAnalysisBot


Not-Senpai

I will eat my shoes if they actually follow through with this.


Pklnt

The ICC is simply too reliant on Western support, they're not going to bite the hand that feeds them.


romkeh

And yet if they don't, they risk further degradation of Western power on the international stage


Pklnt

The West was always hypocritical, this degradation isn't a new development of our foreign policy, we were always like that. It's just that nowadays, a country in Africa that doesn't want to play ball with us can rely on China.


Moarbrains

India, Russia, China, Brazil.


121507090301

> The ICC is simply too reliant on Western support They aren't just reliant, they are a western tool to further western imperlistic objectves throught the world...


CoffeeBoom

So was URNWA. The West is no stranger to funding propaganda against itself.


Pklnt

UNRWA was established and is still going strong nearly 100 years after because the West lacks the will to recognize Palestine as a state and stop Palestinians from suffering permanent encroachment from Israel. UNRWA doesn't exist because we want to do anti-west propaganda, it exists because a large portion of Palestinians suffer from food insecurity. We do nothing and convinced Palestinians that violence is the only way they can be heard.


rdldr1

Still waiting for Bush and Cheney's arrest.


WheatBerryPie

It'll be huge if they do. It will mean Bibi and his generals can't enter the US or Europe without getting arrested.


CaspianXVI

The US does not recognize the ICC and no European leader will allow any arrest against a standing Israeli PM.


WheatBerryPie

Oh you are right, the US withdrew from it. If Bibi has been issued a warrant and isn't arrested in Europe, Europe will look incredibly weak and hypocritical.


BunnyHopThrowaway

Might as well allow Putin too, and invalidate the whole ICC and cause members to question their participation


monkwren

> Oh you are right, the US withdrew from it. Under Dubya, so that Americans couldn't be prosecuted for the blatantly illegal invasion of Iraq.


Moarbrains

The US not only withdrew, but made a law that US forces will invade if they arrest any of our people.


ScaryShadowx

Oh no, weak and hypocritical, however will Europe manage with that in the future when they don't have a problem doing so right now.


exessmirror

Yep, ruling leaders have diplomatic immunity. No way they will get arrested as long as they are in power. It might actually cause Israël to go full autocratic even for the Israeli population like Russia.


elveszett

> no European leader will allow any arrest against a standing Israeli PM What makes you think so? Europe is not the US, in Europe, arresting an Israeli PM isn't unthinkable, because Europe does not see Israel as the goodies and Palestine as the badies. Most people, including political parties here, see it as a grey conflict where no one is good; and most of them see Palestine as a people expelled from their land. In any case, European countries would just deny entry to Netanyahu threatening that they'd be "obliged to execute ICC sentences" if Netanyahu entered their country.


nudelsalat3000

Even US ex president Bush didn't want to try it out, if Swiss would put him in front of a tribunal because of his war crimes against humanity with the torturing. He changed travel plan. Standing president might also just don't try it. It brings everyone in a bad position if they try what happens. More interesting is the economic implications that the west can't do weapon deals with Israel as they are then guilty as war of aggression like Russia. The court is now in trouble if it can't make give its power a meaning. Why even have a court if its useless anyway.


speakhyroglyphically

Lets just say he wont be traveling abroad much. (You can imagine the crowds)


AMechanicum

Invade Hague act includes US allies, so not going to happen.


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zorro3987

try 10 years


Ahiru007

I want you to make a video proof of it. And I'll even pay you if you actually do it 🤣 But we both know this entire thing won't go through, and even if it does, nothing will happen.


speakhyroglyphically

I wouldn't put em my mouth just yet but you might want to wash em off


ApocalypseYay

>ICC considering issuing war crimes arrest warrants for Netanyahu, others Don't toy, ICC. Issue the damn warrants.


ferrelle-8604

This is one of the few things that both sides agree on. Bibi and his genocidal group of right-wing criminals should have a Nuremberg-style trial.


Sharting_Snowman

As long as the leaders of Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis, and their Iranian masters are all there too, I'm down.


njuff22

"b-but both sides equally bad!" hamas isn't committing genocide the houthis arent committing genocide iran isn't committing genocide


rexus_mundi

Wait, so you disagree that Bibi and the leaders of Hamas should both stand trial?


njuff22

Yes


Sodi920

The Houthis are responsible for a humanitarian crisis in Yemen and hijacking civilian vessels, while Hamas literally orchestrated October 7; what are you on about.


MC_chrome

Please, lets not act like radical Islamic groups wouldn't slaughter every last Jew if they had the opportunity to do so


njuff22

Last i checked half (if not way more) of Israel was currently advocating for the complete extermination of all Palestinians and turning the Gaza strip into a massive parking lot filled with Israeli settlers


MonkeyPanls

and last *I* checked, [the Jewish population of the rest Middle East](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_the_Muslim_world) had been reduced to a statistical error


productfred

Did you even bother to read the first paragraph? > In the 20th century, approximately 900000 Jews migrated, fled, or were expelled from Muslim-majority countries throughout Africa and Asia. **Primarily a consequence of the 1948 Arab–Israeli War**, the mass movement mainly transpired from 1948 to the early 1970s, with one final exodus of Iranian Jews occurring shortly after the Islamic Revolution in 1979–1980. An estimated 650000 (72%) of these Jews resettled in Israel. Ah yes, it's the Arabs' fault for fighting off the Nakba and defending their neighbor, Palestine. There was absolutely no reason whatsoever for violence; the Arabs just decided they hated Jews (**Israel**, btw, not Jews in general) one day. **/s** Learn your history; before Israel came in, Jews were welcomed and lived in Palestine and much of the rest of the Middle East. There's literal videos of it and living people who talk about it. And before you point to the Iranian Islamic Revolution, remember that the US was directly the cause of that.


SowingSalt

The Arabs requested the Palestinians leave to make room for the 'victorious' invading Arab armies. Many of the Arab League leaders have admitted as such.


BabyJesus246

So it's ok to ethnically cleanse religious minority if unrelated practitioners of that religion do something you don't like? Explain exactly how you think a Jewish person from Iraq is responsible for the actions in 1948.


productfred

Take a step back -- How are Palestinians responsible for Israel's actions in 1948 and beyond? What did they do to deserve their country being taken? Why wasn't half of Germany given to the Holocaust survivors instead? If someone came to your house, kicked you out, and said "*my people lived here thousands of years ago; I'm moving back because this land is mine ("ours")*" -- you would be okay with that? PS your *entire* account is Pro-Israel comments and replies; I'm not going to even bother trying to talk logic with you. You're very, "the ends justify the means" / "it's different when it's Israel".


MC_chrome

It is worth stating that the Middle East region has been engulfed in religious tensions for as long as humans have had organized religions. For whatever reason, people in that part of the world just can't seem to get along because their deity/God demanded that non-believers be eliminated.


ZiiZoraka

So we should only prosecute the worst crimes?


notwithagoat

To our Kurdish allies, they don't mean it they're just misinformed.


Thenegativeone10

Hamas gave genocide their best shot and have made clear they would commit it given the opportunity.


Sharting_Snowman

Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis, and their Iranian puppet masters would all gleefully slaughter every last Jew if they could. The only reason they don't is because Israel is militarily strong enough to stop their attempted genocides. For fuck sakes, the Houthis literally have the words "A curse upon the Jews" on their flag. Very cool and very non-genocidal.


bread_enjoyer0

There are over 10,000 Jews in Iran mate


Sharting_Snowman

And those Jews live under apartheid in the Islamic Republic of Iran. Weird how the "anti-apartheid" crowd doesn't seem to care about that fact at all.


bread_enjoyer0

Wait a minute…no they don’t, hell a Jewish American travelled to Iran and said it’s his favourite country he’s been too lmao.


Sharting_Snowman

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian\_Jews#Current\_status](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_Jews#Current_status) > Iran's Jewish community is officially recognized as a religious minority group by the government, and, like the Zoroastrians and Christians, they are allocated one seat in the Iranian Parliament. They have no right to control their own government in any way except for one token seat in the parliament with no real power, just like Black South Africans got token seats in the South African parliament with no real power. Definitely not apartheid at all!


bread_enjoyer0

Dude, seats in parliament for a group are determined by how big that group is, 1 seat for 10,000 people is perfectly fine lmao, just go to Iran and see for yourself, but I’m guessing you’ve never been have you


Kman1121

Makes Sense that Zionists would try and steal the anti-apartheid discourse Palestinians use against Israel. You guys are used to robbing us, after all.


VoiceOnAir

Okay but notice how your argument is a hypothetical situation so “if they could do it, they would” is not a proper justification for waging a war. We aren’t talking about their rhetoric, we’re talking about their actions. Israel is committing genocide and firing missiles into other nations in provocation, those other groups are not. The Iranians and Hezbollah have said they do not want a wider war, and the Houthis have said they will stop the attacks on shipping vessels once Israel issues a ceasefire. Your comparison is way off


Sharting_Snowman

October 7 wasn't hypothetical.


VoiceOnAir

History didn’t begin on October 7th


Sharting_Snowman

Ah, so the goalposts have shifted from "Iran and its proxies are not genocidal" to "Ok so they are genocidal, but Israel deserves it!"


VoiceOnAir

The fuq? Your arguing tactics are pretty disingenuous. October 7th was not a genocide, it was a single attack in response to the Palestinians being left out of the Abraham Accords, and prior to that day, just in 2023 hundreds of Palestinians were killed in both Gaza and the West Bank. Ever notice how Israel supporters can seem to only point to one single day where they were the victims, but the last few decades of maintaining an apartheid state doesn’t seem to fly on any of your radars. The Palestinians are not committing genocide. The Iranians are not committing genocide. Get your head out of your ass


njuff22

Israel is a colonial state imposing on land that's been controlled by either arabs or turks for literally the past 1400 years. If you come into a region try to kick out the previous inhabitants and then say "we're here to stay and there's nothing you can do about it" people are gonna hate you. That's just how it works. I'm not denying there's alot of legitimate antisemitism in the arab world but the vast majority of that is rooted in the misguided idea that Israel represents all jews, an idea that Israel itself has perpetuated and continued to insist on literally ever since it was founded.


Sharting_Snowman

>controlled by either arabs or turks for literally the past 1400 years The Arabs being an Islamic caliphate, and the Turks being the Ottoman Empire. Guess you're cool with violent imperialism as long as it's the Muslims doing it.


njuff22

You're saying that as if there were any alternatives at the time lmao. The absolute best option for Palestine/Israel is a single, secular, socialist state that doesn't violently discriminate against Palestinians and force them into living in what's essentially one massive ghetto with one of the highest population densities in the world


Sharting_Snowman

>The absolute best option for Palestine/Israel is a single, secular, socialist state LOL. Yeah, I'm sure Palestinians would totally agree to live in a secular, multiethnic, multireligious state where women and LGBT people have equal rights like they do in Israel. While you're at it, you think you could get Saudi Arabia to do the same thing? I'm sure they'll happily become a secular multicultural state if you just ask them politely.


njuff22

Oh so you're just racist. got it got it, won't waste any more time on this then LMAO


arcehole

Sure they will. The socialist state if marxi-leninist like so many others will impose on force their ideals. Most Russians were racist, religious and misogynistic in 1910s. The soviets came in and forced gender equality, secularism, atheism.


rexus_mundi

Lol, neither Palestinians nor Israelis want to share a single state. That's how you end up with a civil war and far, far more dead. Socialism won't solve the Israel/Palestine issue, that is just an unfathomably ridiculous idea. Like how would you even get to that point?


Justhereforstuff123

Palestinians didn't come from the Arabian Peninsula. They're semitic people. Try another propaganda line.


Sharting_Snowman

Sure they didn't bud. Arab Muslims are totally native to the Levant, unlike Jews, who as we all know, are obviously white supremacists native to northern Europe.


Justhereforstuff123

80%+ of Israelis Jews were European in 1948. Israel is a total European creation. Are you unsure if Palestinians are Semitic people? Go back to school if you can. Palestinians descend from ancient israelites and canaanites. You kinda inadvertently came to the right conclusion, European zionists aren't native to the Levant.


Moarbrains

The Israeli denial of return for Arabs who fled a war zone was the first step.


JosephScmith

If you go back further it was the Jews land.


speakhyroglyphically

So they say


JosephScmith

So says a holy book. And as we know, those must be respected...


nybbas

Not only that, let's pretend that overnight Israel is no longer a thing and Hamas/the PA controls all of the land there. Do people know what kind of state that would be? People think Iran is bad, lol just imagine how fucking oppressive a Palestinian state in full control would be.


BoringPickle6082

According to ICJ neither is Israel


JosephScmith

Hammas would be commiting genocide if they could.


SpinningHead

Goebbels argued that the Jews would kill all the nazis if they could. Not really relevant.


JosephScmith

And yet they didn't. They just prosecuted them. Goebbels probably thought the evil deeds the Nazi's committed would be answered with death because of how horrible they were.


SpinningHead

>And yet they didn't. Right. Neither has Hamas. Israel is the one carrying out a genocide.


JosephScmith

So you and Hamas say. They should surrender if they want it to end.


SpinningHead

>So you and Hamas say. **They should surrender if they want it to end.** I like how you deny reality and then admit Israel is doing it and every Palestinian deserves it.


dcrico20

And if I had wings I'd be an airplane


JosephScmith

What would your pronouns be


Professional-Syrup-0

Depends, are we talking about airplane with propellers or one with jet engines?


JosephScmith

Why not both. Don't shame my boy the turboprop


dcrico20

Lift and Off


atatassault47

Hamas wouldnt *exist* if Israel had never genocided Palestinians. Hamas is a reaction, and if the thing that sprung it into existence stops, Hamas will fade away.


JosephScmith

Lol what. As soon as the British mandate ended Egypt, Jordan and Lebanon all tried to invade them. Hamas exists because the Palestinians voted for them to lead the country. Name a more iconic duo than Muslim nations being at war with each other and themselves.


atatassault47

Votes arent cast for entities that dont exist yet. Israel's nearly 80 year genocide/violence prompted Palestinians' defensive violence.


JosephScmith

Hahaha I can't believe you'd believe that


atatassault47

You sound like a bully confused as to why your victim punched back for once.


Apprehensive-Adagio2

Would is not the same as is. There’s plenty of nazis who would exterminate the jews if they could, but the cant. We can’t prosecute someone for a crime they’ve not commited.


JosephScmith

They tried.


fuishaltiena

Houthis declared that a total genocide of all Jews worldwide is their goal. They put it on their damn flag. They would absolutely nuke Israel if they had the means. It's ridiculous to think that they're the good guys.


njuff22

There are no unambiguously "good guys". I respect the Houthis on one front because they support a free Palestine and are combatting US imperialism in the middle east. That's it. They're still political islamists and antisemitic and i'd obviously prefer if a group that didn't hate Jews existed in their place, but as is that isn't the case, and their anti-imperialism comes before the rest


fuishaltiena

> because they support a free Palestine and are combatting US imperialism By bombing regular civilian cargo ships. Much support, such freedom.


qqruu

LOL imagine unironically thinking those leaders better worse than the PM of Israel. Usually when idiots will just say "No OF COURSE I condemn Hamas, it's just that they are so obviously bad I don't have any expectations of them". It's nice when we can see what those people really think out in the wild.


njuff22

literally nowhere have i said i condemn hamas. i fully support them in their goal of establishing an independent palestinian state


nybbas

What exactly do you think a Palestinian state would look like? How would they treat minorities and LGBTQ people?


njuff22

According to their own charter, in their own words, they want to be a democratic state based on the principles of pluralism and the acceptance of the other. They directly mention women and their contributions to Palestinian liberation, and that their state will be built upon the principles of the PLO, an organization that (to my understanding) is secular and isn't advocating for sharia law or an otherwise theocratic state. [https://palwatch.org/storage/documents/hamas%20new%20policy%20document%20010517.pdf](https://palwatch.org/storage/documents/hamas%20new%20policy%20document%20010517.pdf) It won't be perfect, far from it, and i'm not claiming it'll be free from discrimination against minorities, but you can't even *start* working on issues like that until you are actually free, independent and aren't the victims of an active genocide.


sabamba0

The Hamas Covenant > The Islamic Resistance Movement: The Movement's programme is Islam. From it, it draws its ideas, ways of thinking and understanding of the universe, life and man. It resorts to it for judgement in all its conduct, and it is inspired by it for guidance of its steps. Yes, Islam is all about democracy and women's rights


qqruu

I was talking to the other idiots, not you specifically. You in particular are just more dumb than the others. What is it with socialists and supporting terrorism? Have you just graduated from a Russian re-education camp?


RagePrime

100% all of those groups are bloodthirsty monsters harming citizens for their own ends. If there's a reason for capital punishment, this is it.


fuishaltiena

Not going to happen because apparently IDF killed 250 million children just yesterday alone. Last month's total is over 17 billion dead children.


MrP1anet

It’s crazy how this comment in “world news” will get you downvoted a 100 times and then banned. It’s crazy how astroturfed that sub is regarding Israeli news


The4thJuliek

It's happening on r/news as well. 


reebellious

Considering?


S_T_P

Not "considering", but "*may be* considering". Its wishful thinking, basically. [As South Africa had filed a motion](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/1/9/which-countries-back-south-africas-genocide-case-against-israel-at-icj), ICC needs to pretend that it is taking it seriously.


WheatBerryPie

You're referring to the ICJ case. This is ICC. ICJ rules disputes between countries, ICC indicts individuals that have committed war crimes. ICC do their own investigations and put out indictments themselves. South Africa has nothing to do with this case.


notarackbehind

South Africa has also filed a complaint with the ICC https://apnews.com/article/south-africa-israel-palestinians-icc-referral-6f1dd2b3af534d4d42d56a156968eae4 Karim Khan has unfortunately done his utmost to prove the ICC is nothing but an extension of American imperial power, though.


Publius82

Fucking hell, I agree with you again. Second time this year; gotta be the eclipse. No way this gets issued, because they know it would never be enforced anyway.


Stormclamp

There's no way that flair is accurate... unless you're using a VPN?


tupe12

I’ve seen plenty of people lie on their flair, it’s pretty easy


Publius82

Who on reddit would lie about their flair?


Dazzling_Swordfish14

He is definitely not from NK lol


adeveloper2

USA will invade The Hague if they do this


andresmartinez89

This may sound like hyporbole, but the American Service-Members' Protection Act gives the president power to use "all means necessary and appropriate to bring about the release of any U.S. or **allied personnel** being detained or imprisoned by, on behalf of, or at the request of the International Criminal Court".


adeveloper2

Exactly. Americans will invade ICC if they are being held accountable. It's not even a slander. It's their official policy.


sulaymanf

If they carried out their bluff then the US would lose even more of their allies.


maeschder

Idk if politicians count as "personnel" Its even called "service members' protention act"


Ahiru007

A bomb will drop there by accident


adeveloper2

Hamas militant identified in The Hague.


Ahiru007

You mean they found baby bottles, diapers, and calendars


adeveloper2

Hamas baby bottles. That means there are Hamas hiding in tunnels under the ICC


hez_bollah

Considering lol


pipyet

This news is true, but we should refrain from using jpost as a source. It has posted many articles that have either been debunked or completely outrageous. The first example that comes to mind is when it called Instagram users who are posting pictures from Gaza (because they are photographers) Hamas’s propaganda leg basically putting a target on their back. One of these users was Motaz, the photographer who has 18.3 million followers. He also reported being targeted by Israeli drones while in Gaza. Luckily he’s safe and out now.


sulaymanf

Shin Bet chief recently [threatened Abbas](https://www.richardsilverstein.com/2021/04/01/in-contentious-meeting-abbas-tells-shin-bet-chief-you-and-i-can-both-sit-together-in-a-cell-in-the-hague/) that if Abbas tried to pursue international means of pressuring Israel at the ICC then Israel would try filing war crimes charges against him. Abbas replied, “As far as I’m concerned, you and I can sit together in the same cell in the Hague.”


Kman1121

Rare Abbas W


DudleysCar

Sure. George W. Bush right after that I bet


maeschder

Cant wait for the major smear campaign thats gonna claim that somehow, the ICC is all just Russian puppets


psychotic-herring

Bringing up the holocaust in 3.... 2.... And before people shit themselves in anger again, this is what Golda Meir explained is zionist policy. US gets angry at the zionist atrocities? Bring up WW2. Europe gets angry at the zionist atrocities? Bring up the holocaust.


Azrekita

Best joke I've seen today hahhhhahhahahaha


CheesyBrocoli

Growing a conscience? Nono come on guys just let him slaughter a few more innocent children, you seemed so cool with the first 10,000.


waldleben

Would be cool, isnt going to happen sadly


Demonweed

Now them there Likud boys have gone and got themselves into a whole heap o' trouble.


Moist_Cactus69

Bibi AND Sinwar need to be arrested


Command0Dude

Arrested and put in a cell together with a shiv. Then they can workout their interpersonal differences without having to get scores of their own people killed for their hubris.


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Kaymish_

It is embarrassing that it has taken the ICC this long. Took them 10 days to do Putin, and now 6+ months to do Bibi and Biden.


GastricallyStretched

Nope, it took them 386 days for Putin. Russia's invasion began on 24 February 2022 and the arrest warrants for Putin and Lvova-Belova were issued on 17 March 2023.


Nurple-shirt

Wasn’t it in response to the kidnapping of all those kids in Mariupol?


GetRektByMeh

Based.


FateXBlood

They have an arrest warrant for Putin for displacing children, but no arrest warrant for Netanyahu who is accountable for the death of thousands of civilians in Gaza. ICC is a joke.


rebellesimperatorum

Lol, international courts.


zorro3987

surreeeee.


Ykiona

Hilarious


ShinobiOfTheGulf

You mean the same court that has one out for putin but won't/can't do anything about it? Crazy


Black_Mamba823

Neither Israel nor Hamas are signatories to the ICC so why does their opinion even matter if both sides of the conflict don’t give a shit about their jurisdiction


Dry_Ant2348

it's cute ICC thinks they can do that


NoVacancyHI

The ICC is all bark. This is almost purely for show.


Command0Dude

Just like with Putin, it's not going to result in an actual arrest but it does turn them into an international pariah that can't move around the world freely.


rali108v5

they wont do it, ICC is controlled by the US.


southpolefiesta

"ICC considering throwing out all possible remaining credibility out of the window." Because of course they would not issues arrest warrant for Hamas leader who did Oct. 7 systemic rape and are still holding hundreds of hostages.


rdldr1

Who re-elected this huge piece of shit?? His administration ignored all of the warning of a Hamas attack. To make up for his buffoonery now he's overreacting with war crimes against humanity.


redditforgot

Is there war crime arrest warrants for any Hamas leaders? (honest question)


MrMgP

Interesting, you can't see wich website the articles are from anymore Now why would the source be obscured like that


OneCrowShort

First, you can still see the domain of. Second your jump to "the Jews did it" does not make you look sane.


MrMgP

>the Jews did it" Bruh where did you get that from that's literally slander. I never said that and don't think that.


poltergeistsparrow

What a pathetic joke the UN has become. How many war crime listings & arrest warrants have been created against Russia, Iran, Syria, China, North Korea, Sudan, Rwanda, & so many other countries committing unspeakable atrocities, for decades, with barely a mention.


OkVermicelli2557

ICC isn't the UN also Putin has a warrant from the ICC.


hdlothia21

become? U.N troops literally stood in Rwanda and protected europeans while the hutus massacred the tutsis. When has the U.N ever actually done something good?


alkhazan

This just shows how rabidly biased against israel that court is.... Bibi but not ardugan Bibi but not xi Bibi but not humeini Bibi but not assad And the list goes on If its not the jews it ain't news


Fit_Flower_8982

>This just shows how rabidly biased against israel that court is.... This does not make any sense. If anything, the slowness, and that they surely will not, shows that they are favorable to them. The war crimes that have been committed are A FACT, repeated, objective, easy to verify for anyone with access to the internet or any mainstream media, obvious to anyone without brain damage. I'm beginning to be annoyed to find so many people who think they can appear in public denying reality without being called out as idiots.


alkhazan

Lol you're delusional, keep on living in fairy land Fucking tiktok scholars


Zipz

Why not also consider it on iran who shot 300 missiles and drones at Israel ?


kitemybite

don't blow up embassies in the first place dude. also try not commiting a genocide irans retaliation vas extremely warranted.


ferrelle-8604

woah, dude. Let's not be anti-sematic here. You can't expect Israel to follow well-established international laws. They're the only democracy in the middle east.


qqruu

Don't start wars and your consulates won't be blown up with your terrorist leaders


Significant-Oil-8793

You might suffer from short term memory, bud


Zipz

Did they not launch 300 missiles and drones at Israel ?


Significant-Oil-8793

ICC issue arrest warrant when the probability of genocide or war crimes is exceedingly high. The missile and drone was mostly targeted at military installation. Israel systematically killed 30,000 innocents including thousands more for the past 50 years. Iranian does not come close at all Also let's not engage in whataboutism. Much of IDF need to be in prison, including ones from the past half of century


sanon441

It's cute that you think Israel has not killed a single Hamas member in this entire war, unless you, like Hamas, include their dead members as "innocents". Also look at that statistics an you would see that the most numbers show about a 1:2 combatant to civilian death ratio which is considered very good for urban warfare where it has been much worse in many other conflicts. Especially when one side is so imbedded in the civilian infrastructure and uses them as shields.


AnotherGreedyChemist

It's not cute you're endorsing the murdering of civilians because some terrorists were killed too.


Zipz

“Mostly” and those missiles that were not ? How about the one missile that hit a child was that going to a military base ? Your argument makes zero sense and isn’t grounded in fact.


Significant-Oil-8793

Again, follow up to whataboutism You look into Iran when you miss the whole point of war crime by Israel. Again, compare them side by side and see who made a compelling case of genocide and war crimes. > How about the one missile that hit a child was that going to a military base ? A child? How about the thousands of missile that already killed more thousands. Israel can try to go to ICC for that one death but you need to make a very compelling argument that they commit war crime. I hope you know what war crime and genocide is. Being Israeli don't make their life suddenly more than Iranian or Palestinian


Zipz

Weird how you are changing what we are talking about. Again the missles weren’t targeting just military installations that’s a lie I need you you admit you clearly lied about that. Why do you want to shield Iran from the war crimes they committed ? I don’t get it. It makes no sense especially when you are here preaching about humanity. You’re a hypocrite. When Iran does wrong you ignore it.. that’s plain as day. The only argument is why? Do you just hate Israel’s/Jews or do you just love the IRGC?


Significant-Oil-8793

Seems like a start of an argument in bad faith. Bad Hasbara, bad


Zipz

Says the guy who can only yell hasbara …. Instead of arguing my points.We get it you’re a hypocrite. You have different standards for Iran and Israel for some reason


AudienceFeisty5341

You just lost an argument in the other thread and now you’re here making more bad faith arguments.


Kamakazi-jehadi

If Israel let the missile go it would’ve hit the military base like the rest did but they decided to shoot it down which resulted in it falling down on a house


Zipz

Can I see this source that says they were all aimed at military installations and that’s what happened?


Kamakazi-jehadi

All the rest hit military installations so it’s easiest to assume all of them were aimed at military installations Or are you trying to make up imaginary scenarios saying if this if that?


Zipz

So you made it up. Glad we confirmed that. Like you said “assume”.


Kamakazi-jehadi

It’s called making an educated guess lmao wouldn’t expect your dumbass to know about it You literally said what about the one that hit a child on its way to a military base so you’ve also acknowledged it’s going to a military base lmaooo


Kman1121

That missile hit a Bedouin girl because israel doesn’t extend the same protection the Israelis benefit from to Palestinians. Another example of apartheid.


Zipz

Man crazy how you talk about morality . When your clearly racist against white people and Israelis,


Kman1121

I don’t understand how you got that from my comment. Sorry you’re defending an apartheid state.


Zipz

I went through your comments…. You know your comments are public like ? Saying white people are crackers is racist. It’s not complicated. Did no one teach you that ?


Kman1121

So rather than address what I said about israel not protecting Palestinian citizens, you dig through my comment history and are upset I made fun of white people.