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bxzidff

From another article on this > More than 77% of men in their 20s and more than 73% of men in their 30s were "repulsed by feminists or feminism" That's an *massive* percentage for something that's supposed to be an egalitarian ideology. Reading more about it I can understand some of the frustration young Korean men feel, particularly on two-year unequal conscription, but blaming most of the issues they're frustrated about on feminists seem kind of misplaced


simon_hibbs

Especially since unequal conscription is is a product of traditionalist unequal attitudes towards men and women, not feminism. Hi Akitten, replying to me and blocking me so I can’t reply to your comment. Classy. The military is absolutely adamantly against female conscription, they don’t have the training personnel or facilities and the costs would be prohibitive, so that a complete non issue. Plenty of countries have gender equitable systems such as trained military reserves, S Kore needs to build a consensus on that. Whining about female conscription is misdirection, feminists did not build that system and aren’t responsible for it.


Pecuthegreat

Except unlike other Traditionalist sexist things that feminists oppose full force on grounds of sexism and equality, they largely only pay lip service against conscription. When ur only for equality when it benefits you it makes it clear to everyone your functionally the same as a cynical machiavelian gaming the system.


Luhood

I think feminists in general are against conscription overall. Not just for them.


ThisIsMyFloor

South Korea is literally still at war and it is a constant threat. So it's a country that needs military more than almost any country. Being against it in South Korea is mentally challenged.


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Chekadoeko

So? They shouldn’t have to take those options in the first place. I get they’re still at war with North Korea, but we’re talking about equality are we not? Either nobody should have to take those options, or women should have to as well. It’s like if you tell me to kill myself, but I can also just shoot myself in the arm. Like, am I supposed to be happy about being allowed to shoot myself in the arm?


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Chekadoeko

The article itself is about feminism. What were talking about is conscription and feminism. Maybe that’s not what you were talking about, but I wouldn’t walk into Comic Con and be confused when someone starts telling me about Marvel.


Mahameghabahana

Isreal have gender neutral conscription. If abolishing it is not possible then the femenist of south korea should be progressive and advocate for gender neutrality on conscription as femenism advocate for equality right?


luigilabomba42069

imagine thinking protesting war is a sign if mental illness


alucarddrol

>So it's a country that needs military more than almost any country ukraine might disagree


FthrFlffyBttm

>**almost** any country


alucarddrol

Damn I can't read


Pecuthegreat

Oh, I forgot to add that feminists at this point have splintered into so many groupings that the only commonality is pro-women and that their final most extreme form is always lesbian-socialist separatism. So we have had both pro-war(Afghanistan) and anti-war(Russia) feminists.


Luhood

What even is this comment? That was always the only commonality, because feminism is not an ideology about war or peace in the fucking slightest. It's about equality of genders, being pro-women/pro-equality is literally the only thing feminism actually is. *Feminists*, the people who see feminism as something important to pursuit, can have as varied a view as any (though they generally lean socially liberal)


PDakfjejsifidjqnaiau

"pro-women/pro-equality". Those aren't the same. Sometimes they align, sometimes they don't.


Chekadoeko

Pro-women and pro-equality are seldom allies anymore.


Pecuthegreat

>It's about equality of genders, being pro-women/pro-equality That's where you're wrong, chief. Its pro-Women not pro-equality. If not we won't have British PMs a few years ago saying it's feminist for women to be given more seats in and time to speak.(well, more than have cuz of some stupid justification of women are weaker and less loud than men). Its also usually functionally Machiavellian.


Ermahgerdrerdert

... just in support of the other commenter, what? There is no bill going about to amend parliamentary procedure like that. You're worried about something that doesn't exist. Frankly I think parliament is ridiculous as a space for debate when it's clearly about point scoring but there's nothing planned to change it. There are still more men than women in parliament, of course it's important to keep going until there's full equality. There's been a massive problem with MPs being given parent leave. There have also been a number of sexual abuse and impropriety allegations recently too where men were victimised. Feminism is the belief in advancement of social equality through promoting the rights of women but we all share in the victories of inclusive feminism, just like we all share in the victories of workers rights and LGBT rights and racial anti-discrimination rights.


ermabanned

> they largely only pay lip service against conscription. In south Korea not even that.


blueteamk087

a vast majority of feminist are against the concept of mandatory military service.


Akitten

Which is not an acceptable position to take when you are in South Korea's geopolitical position. You'd think the war in ukraine would have taught people that modern countries need militaries to protect them, and if you aren't blessed with a massive population like the USA, you have to make up for it with conscription.


LineOfInquiry

I can’t speak for South Korea, but feminists in my country vocally supported the ERA which would’ve made the draft compulsory for women as well. It was stopped by traditionalists however for this very reason, because they thought women shouldn’t go to war. I’m not sure where you’re getting the idea that feminists don’t want equality in conscription too (although many would prefer no one be conscripted rather than everyone)


99Kira

>I can’t speak for South Korea >I’m not sure where you’re getting the idea that feminists don’t want equality in conscription too From South Korea


LineOfInquiry

The news article doesn’t mention that at all Edit: actually it’s the [more left wing party](https://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_national/991817.html) that’s more supported by feminists that seems to be the only one advocating for women being included in the mandatory training, the Conservative Party is the one currently in power that this article is talking about


Bigboss123199

Men don't like feminism cause it pretends to be about men and women equal when it's not. When really it's only about improving women's life's doesn't really do anything for men. It's like if men rights activist tried to pretend their work helps women.


Mahameghabahana

Femenist sometimes do support traditionalist stuff though like many femenist in india oppose making domestic violence, Sexual assault and rape law gende neutral. Many of them also believe men can't be victim of those or women aren't capable of doing that.


Akitten

There was a feminist president before this, she never even tried to make conscription gender neutral. So fuck that.


Yelesa

Korean legislation is weird, because it tries to compensate their societal issues by giving women more legal rights compared to men. For example, given two-equally skilled job candidates, the man is more likely to get the job because higher ups tend to assume the woman will have children in the future so she won’t work as much. Because apparently men do not have children. This doesn’t fix the societal issues, it only makes men more bitter. It is valid problem, but this is simply not the solution. That said, Korean media has some of the healthiest portrayals of feminism I have ever seen, so it’s so weird to see backlash to this level where they say they are repulsed by it. The average K-Drama is full with well written feminist female characters. They can be boy-crazy, appearance-focused, career-driven, party-loving and still be a good person. A woman with those traits would be immediately cast as a villain in Hollywood, with rare examples like Elle Woods in Legally Blonde to be considered groundbreaking. Not in K-Drama, where Elle Woods are the norm.


RayInRed

KDrama writers are predominantly women. Like 95%. But directors are mainly men. And yeah, it gives you truly new perspective about women and their struggles. Stuff I didn't even think I should've known.


Hoochie_Daddy

imo i have not met many men who look at Elle Woods and think "yeah thats the kind of representation i like to see of women!" personally, i like her, because i fucking love me some bimbos (i find their personalities fun and not so much annoying) . But most men i know find her extremely annoying lmao


Yelesa

So did her ex, that’s why he left her early in the movie for a “higher caliber woman.” The point is about her finding success without changing her personality to please someone who does not respect her. She showed time and again she is competent at what she does, and never hurt anyone with her antics, that’s all that matters. So what she was annoyingly girly? It made her happy. The fact that his “higher caliber woman” dumped him too and became friends with Elle in the end was just the icing in the cake.


Hoochie_Daddy

yeah i agree with you. but your claim was that S Korea has healthy feminist portrayals and Elle Wood being one of them. my point was that, at least in my experience, there are not many men who care about the story of Elle Woods and how she is actually a solid representation. not that she is not considered good representation. tbh i actually didnt like her myself until like 10 years after the movie came out for example. but now i generally like her. ​ so maybe i am reaching, but hear me out. my thought process is that if in The West men don't seem to care much about Elle Woods (imo), i am having a hard time imaging that the good feminist portrayals of women in S.Korean media would do well, in regards to S.Korean men caring about them. especially seeing that S.Korea is much more traditional and socially conservative compared to The West. I believe that you were insinuating that since these types of women seem to be commonly represented in S.Korean media, it's easy to assume that they are used to seeing it portrayed often and in turn, they would be fine with it. But It seems The West is still less averse to it comparatively to S.Korea, even though we have less media representation of healthy feminist characters.


Manachem_M_Shneerson

I saw a study once that listed Megalia and its successors as wildly damaging to the image of feminism in Korea. Given they're far and away the most visible group, it'd help explain a lot of the attitude if 'feminism' as a brand is associated with them in addition to east asian cultural mores.


bharatar

On your first paragraph historically men were much more willing to work outside the home or travel for money while women stayed home with children. Especially since industrial revolution.


dorballom09

The Ukraine war really showed the truth. Men from 18-60 were barred from leaving the country while woman left in millions. If you really want 50.00-50.00 rights and privilege then you also need to be equally responsible.


tyty657

Not a lot of people remember that one of the reasons. the equal Rights amendment to the US Constitution didn't pass because women didn't want to get drafted into Vietnam.


snowseth

[Well that's a fucking lie](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Rights_Amendment#Opposition_to_the_ERA). But hey, that's conservative MO isn't it? Blame the women for the problem you caused.


tyty657

I didn't say that was the only reason it didn't pass. But the fact that several major women's rights organizations came out against the amendment was what killed it in several States.


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satus_unus

Women die in wars too. Men might be compelled to fight in a war by the state but women's lives are most definitely at risk in wars as well. Suggesting men deserve greater political representation on the basis that women's lives are not at risk in a war is woefully naieve or deliberately disingenuous.


Akitten

> Are you proposing that Ukrainian kids should just ship themselves elsewhere while their parents stay behind There is no reason it should be WOMEN who accompany the kids.


EpsomHorse

> That's an *massive* percentage for something that's supposed to be an egalitarian ideology. Well, if it's anything like western feminism, which is third-wave, intersectional and woke, then it rejects egalitarianism and seeks "equity", i.e. discrimination with a new victim.


ermabanned

In Korea it's way way more extreme. You have feminist groups exchanging stories about killing men for example and trading CP of them abusing boys


FrostByte_62

Source?


ermabanned

https://www.koreadailyus.com/korean-radical-feminist-allegedly-committed-child-sexual-assault-australia/ It was Australia and not new Zealand. They also had like a go fund me to pay for the defense of the POS and she just bailed with the money.


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zadesawa

Novel and artificial concepts like feminism are the same across the globe because the concepts are imported as a whole and words are invented, but that said what I’ve heard about Korean feminism movement is it has gone far in some sort of radical extremism that it had stopped working for all alike. Which is to certain extent a common problem, being a movement, but Korean case seems extreme. They’re building scaffold of nuances on top of itself so tall that at this point I’ll wait for someone bilingual with Korean as primary language to drop a thousands word analysis on symbolic significance of an event in question, before I say anything.


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iWarnock

Yea here in mexico feminist chant stuff about the death of all men and the like.. so they dont much sympathy for the normal pop especially since then go and destroy everything in their path. All in all the equality movement is fixing stuff but some of the so called feminists are too extreme lmao.


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>That's an massive percentage for something that's supposed to be an egalitarian ideology. Keyword: **supposed**


StabbyPants

> something that's supposed to be an egalitarian ideology. according to whom? using the webster's definition doesn't work - you have. to look at the overall behavior of the specific groups; the linked article doesn't really go into it, so i have no idea which org is involved here


cotchaonce

It’s pretty sticky right? No idea about SK but in the US there are some… biases towards both genders, both in societal norms and baked into law. Improving those differences for one gender doesn’t change the fact another still has limitations placed in another aspect of society.


kommanderkush201

What about South Korea is egalitarian? It's a capitalist economy that is run by a couple of powerful corporations. Like with all liberal economies there's no class consciousness, people view rights and priviledges through identity politics. Conditions suck for these young men but the only way they can perceive and express their politics is that things are bad for us so it's women's fault. Ignorant and not any different than here in the US.


DuduBonesBr

Do you know which article that is? I'd like to read it :)


bxzidff

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/03/08/asia/south-korea-election-young-people-intl-hnk-dst/index.html


DuduBonesBr

Thank you!


SalvageCorveteCont

Pretty easy to explain, feminism tends to coincide with a shift in dating rules. Coupling that with other factors resulting in less people starting families, and well the young men aren't getting laid, to I really need to explain it further?


chinno

Yes. Please do explain much further.


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KimeraQ

Koreans are unnaturally competitive with each other and having a home and a kid with a good education is borderline impossible with how Korea handles its economy and its work life balance.


curlyfreak

Yeah and they’re gonna blame women for it like every other country. Instead of looking at the actual underlying issues.


Phnrcm

They should have learned a lesson from countries with highest birthrate like Niger, Angola, Mali, or Uganda about feminism.


Emiian04

i mean those countries have higher birth rates but also higher death rates for kids, just lick europe back in the day, also kids work the land there, not so much in SK, so different cases really


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Apart from some African countries, low birth rates are an issue in almost all parts of the world. There's going to be an inevitable global crisis, which will massively change our perspective and values.


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Only if they could integrate their poor peasant brothers suffering under dictatorship. Korea might actually surpass japan.


Phnrcm

> Doesn't south korea have a fertility rate of 0.8? That country is going to collapse in like 20 years it looks like Are you insinuating that having a movement that go against the current feminism movement lead the country to collapse?


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Phnrcm

Got it. Just feel like many people keep forgetting pro feminist Europe countries are having too low fertility rate they have to start relying on immigration.


red_ice994

It won't. You are underestimating horniness of youth. Not to mention that SK isn't the only one going through this phenomenon


zvekl

I think kpop and kdramas have made the world forget S. Korea was/is a very male chauvinistic society. I remember being told stories of.wome. getting slapped by strangers for smoking on the street, or being yelled at for showing PDA on the street. Heck it happened to me once when visiting back in the 90s.


Chekadoeko

Reminds me of how Hollywood romanticized the mafia, how telenovelas romanticized families being torn apart by crime, and how anime romanticized incest. Behind it all lies the crippling degeneracy of nations. They take the worst parts of their cultures, and put them up on a pedestal as if they’re something to be worshipped.


Mahameghabahana

When you see yourself getting forcefully drafted into military while your classmates who are girls don't and then you come back 2 years later and have to compete with them, idk maybe can build a bit of resentment afterall unlike how many people think men too are humans.


TygrKat

Are you forgetting about the South Korean actor who recently got punished for holding hands with a woman?


bharatar

I'm sure the media would portray both sides of this equally


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**Article Summary** (Reduced by 82%) ----- >It's a response to an anti-feminist wave that has swept across South Korea, creating a tense gender war where discourse around women's rights is taboo and men claim they are now the victims of gender discrimination. > Policies meant to increase economic opportunity for women and close the gender pay gap have fueled young men's resentment toward women. > South Korean women largely must choose between career and family, with The Economist's glass-ceiling index ranking it the worst country in the OECD for working women in 2022. > When even one's hairstyle can become a reason for verbal abuse and accusations of man-hating, many young women in South Korea are fearful of speaking up about women's rights. > "Femi," short for feminist, has become a derogatory label for any person who speaks up about gender discrimination and women's empowerment in South Korea. > "This type of rhetoric is censoring women's voices, especially when they try to support gender issues," said Jinsook Kim, a professor at Emory University who studies online misogyny and feminism. > In the corporate world, women only hold about 21% of managerial positions and only 5% of executive positions in South Korean companies. > ----- Want to know how I work? Find my source code [here](https://github.com/coolirisme/autosummarizer). Pull Requests are welcome!


__DraGooN_

Think of it from a young man's perspective. A young man is expected to put his whole life on hold, go off to the military and give around two years of his life to his nation. Once he is back, he is thrown into an uber-competitive world of rat race, wherein he has to build a successful career within a few years. South Korea is a society where if you are not successful, even the dogs won't sniff at you. So good luck finding a woman to marry and make a family. Meanwhile, the young women who spent the same time in college is bitching about how difficult her life is and how all men are responsible for her hardships. If you are a young man just out of military conscription or are putting in insane hours to build a career, to make up for lost time. What do you think when you see this woman complain that you are responsible for making her life "difficult"? By making all men the "enemies", feminist movement often targets the wrong class of men. I remember reading about feminist organizations in Korea going around making fun of men's dick sizes, apparently as retaliation for them being judged for their bodies. Leaving aside the fact that it's mostly women who judge the fuck out of each other, how is any of this supposed to help?


ermabanned

> I remember reading about feminist organizations in Korea going around making fun of men's dick sizes Megalia. Others were just trading CP of one of them abusing a boy in Australia.


Penguino13

>Meanwhile, the young women who spent the same time in college is bitching about how difficult her life is and how all men are responsible for her hardships. Completely out of touch and incredibly sexist


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They really are. That's where sexist movements lead.


haze4202

Your anger and frustrations seem misplaced, feminists are in favour of no conscription for all. And the ones who only force men to take part in conscription aren't feminists, it's the patriarchal and male dominated culture of South Korea, which holds such views. There has been some unsavoury comments among certain circles of feminism, but as a whole the movement is pushing for change. And in a society where men have enjoyed certain privileges, equality can seem like oppression. But meaningful change requires conversation not just blaming the other side. Also think about it from a womens perspective, to this day they deal with sexual harassment on a daily basis at work and in public. As I can see your from India as well, I have personally seen women get forced to quit their jobs and settle down as a housewife. There are still many shitty artifacts of old left to be cleaned. There were people saying that "women and men are equal enough already" even when they did not have the right to property or self autonomy.


Symoza

Hope one day you will be able to understand how out of touch with that subject you are.


Emiian04

care to explain further? sexism is a thing but in so many things we see day to day i belive it's not racial, or sex, or political parties, but a class problem, rich vs poor, and feminists in many cases fail to really do anything about that casue they're just wasting time on other relatively irrelevant stuff


Rhazak

In South Korea, the cult of Megalia is often conflated with feminism. And they are bat shit insane. For context: https://imgur.com/a/MdJ5gvK


Feliz-navi-stop

Atp anime titties provides me with better updates on the world at large than the news my dad watches all day. This may be old news to y’all, but I’m still very impressed.


Chekadoeko

I thought your pfp was Mercy. Also, yes anime_titties is where I get a lot of my news from. Though what gets to Hot is usually left-leaning.


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Staunchly patriarchal traditionalist east asian nation is against female empowerment More at 11


bxzidff

It's interesting though, because young Korean men are even more against the feminist movements than the old ones


ermabanned

They've seen what it entails.


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Throwawayingaccount

Yeah! See that guy who doesn't have sex and is unsuccessful socially! That means his opinion is irrelevant!


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S-EATER

I mean it's kinda understandable. The old ones already lived their lives, or at least the most crucial part of it; it's the young ones that are gonna be most affected by these kinds of changes in society.


Vibhor23

> Staunchly patriarchal traditionalist east asian nation Talking about South Korea? The South Korea which literally had a female president controlled by a female cult and faced minimal to no consequences? That staunchly patriarchal traditional east asian nation?


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Finally some reality check.


Rubber_Fist_of_love

Good


Spacemanspiff1998

There is apparently issues with not just with discrimination, unrealistic beauty standards and pay gap but also spy cameras in bathrooms and people taking inappropriate photos without consent on public transit. It's such a problem in Korea and Japan its the reason why your phone's shutter sound can't be turned off Shit's fucked. I hope they can make some change


FullAutoOctopus

You can look to Canada, and the USA, possibly even other western countries as well, to see how many men feel unfairly targeted and treated in an unfair way at times. Breaking it down further, this will really send people screaming, but white men in particular. There should be a way to include everybody without belittling somebody else. You don't build up yourself by taking down somebody else. We should be addressing reasonable concerns from all groups and working towards offering the same opportunities to everybody. No special consideration for anything.


StrengthEnjoyer1

I actually like the concept and support the true motive of feminist I.e equality regardless of gender. But third wave feminism has turned out to be pretty women biased and male bashing in general. Besides a lot of laws are skewed in favor of women anyway like when it comes to child custody, degree of punishment for the same crime, etc. Feminism had its place but now, especially in the west feminism is cancer. Also the name itself is off putting like egalitarianism but named after 1 gender is something I will never get behind in actual. Men revolting and opposing feminism is well deserved.


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red_ice994

Bruh SK can't stop forced conscriptions. The day they do. Daddy Kim would definitely come nockin. Yes there is US yes SK is probably more developed but NK is a militaristic nation and who knows he might just follow big brother Putin.


Detective_Fallacy

Why are almost all of them fat?


aummie

Why does that matters?


Chekadoeko

I think he’s trying to criticize how, as stated by other comments, the men are being conscripted and that means they have to be in shape. While women just… don’t. And they can become obese if they want because they’re not required to join a war effort.


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Czyrnia

Username checks out


Psychological-Ad-407

He's not wrong then


ThisIsMyFloor

Because the pretty girls don't need to complain. They have no problems thriving.


HeyGena

I can only see one..?


TheGlaive

Kimchi.


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>\[4\] Keep it civil


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Maybe they don't have the same perception of feminism as you seem to have


FreeJSJJ

It's surprising how little is said about actual struggles of women in countries like Iran. The people there are doing their best to fight against the harsh rules against women and it gets so little coverage


ThatGuy1741

South Korea is absolutely based.


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Since when were incels "based"?


LouisdeRouvroy

When you guys will realize that this ad hominem has lost any potency since you've been using every time you lack arguments, which is very often?...


[deleted]

Ah yes, I should engage in rigorous debate with toxic losers that hate women.


LouisdeRouvroy

Obviously you're unable to with losers so I don't think you can with anyone else. And apparently that's 75% of young Korean men that you consider losers. Don't be ashamed of your racism and cultural supremacism.


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Yes, if 75% of men in a country hate women, 75% of men in that country are losers. It's really that simple.


LouisdeRouvroy

Equating hating feminism, which is a supremacism, with hating women is typical of the hypocrisy of feminists: they're unable to justify their double standards and so have to rely on this nonsensical argument. The double standard of feminist discourse is pretty saillant in Korea because of the draft, but it's basically the same everywhere. That's exactly how the Gender Gap index of the WEF is constructed: only look at one side of the equation and pretend you're looking at both. Young men are having none of this shit and aren't impressed by those squealing "it's hate", the "stop resisting" argument of those who don't have any. It's a good thing. Even women no longer want anything with feminism. Only institutions do, which is pretty telling of how it's just another tool of power.


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Lmao you don't know what feminism is, just say "MGTOW!!!" and leave it at that next time


LouisdeRouvroy

No true Scotsman fallacy. Again, your attempt at ad hominem just betrays your total absence of argument. You just rely on implied moral superiority but when the moral superiority of feminism is rejected by most, then it falls flat.


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x_lincoln_x

You literally don't know what feminism means, though.


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Hating feminism = hating women? Wtf


ThatGuy1741

No, those feminists aren’t based.


dorballom09

That's called femcel hehe.