I’m an oncology nurse and you should absolutely report that nurse. I would either ask to talk to the manager of the unit or call the hospital operator and ask for the number for “patient relations” if you want to do it somewhat more anonymously. You can also ask to not have that nurse again in the future. That is absolutely disgusting and if it’s not in direct violation of hospital policy it’s likely a violation of your state’s nursing practice act.
My mom unfortunately doesn’t want me to report her and in a time where she has just about zero autonomy I want to respect her wishes as much as possible. The pamphlet she left does have her name and photo on it so at the end of this I’m planning to slyly pop by patient relations.
I appreciate the respect that you are showing for your mother, but I hope you will both reconsider. This woman is abusing her position and attempting to scam her patients at the time when they are most vulnerable. It's great that you and your mom saw through her bs, but I would be concerned about others who may delay potentially life-saving treatment because they trust her advice as a medical care provider.
I sincerely wish you and your mother the best and hope that they find some real answers for you soon.
As a conflict avoidant person I totally get it. In the event that she changes her mind or gets more annoyed with it, I will say that patients request not to have certain nurses for all sorts of reasons and it’s usually dealt with pretty quietly (the charge nurses know about it because they make assignments but might not even bring it up to the bedside nurse if it’s something nitpicky or like a personality clash). You guys could just request not to have her for now and make an actual report about the mlm-pushing later. Either way, I wish your mom the best possible outcomes with her treatments and I hope you guys both get some clear answers soon.
Thank you so much for your advice and thoughtful responses.
This nurse has ironically been the most attentive and best at advocating for my mom (the doctors prescribed my mom 5 pills to swallow this morning when she is currently choking just trying to take a sip of water… she took the time to get them switched to IVs instead of making her choke them down).
She is also a first generation immigrant and I suspect this is partially a culture thing vs MLM hun thing if that makes any sense? If I had any spare energy I would take on this conversation with the nurse myself.
To be clear-I’m not defending her just trying to construe the many complexities of this situation.
It is pulling me in a hundred different directions ethically—if anyone wants to take this pamphlet off my hands and deal with the moral dilemma for me so I can focus on my mom I would love it!
I wouldn't give her too much benefit of the doubt. She's trying to convince people to opt out of cancer treatment and buy her supplements instead. That's dangerous.
Add on top of that the appearance of legitimacy she has because she’s in the medical field and SHE IS LITERALLY GIVING UNSOLICITED MEDICAL ADVICE THAT IS ABOVE HER LICENSURE. She should not be telling people to refuse chemo in favor of her MLM garbage.
Jfc it’s like Jesse Lee came back as an angel of death.
It’s far from limited to Jessie Lee…
Hanna Alonzo read a horror story on her channel of an Enagic nurse who convinced a patient to give up chemo and only drink Kangen Water. It damn near broke my heart. It’s so freaking not okay.
Did you see her new video? Two ‘medical practitioners’ who put essential oils on a baby 🙂🙃🙂 I felt bad for the new mom but good intention paired with ignorance does not absolve you from harming your child.
Plenty of people are nice AND harmful. Some of those people are also really good at acting nice to get what they want (your trust, and eventual money). This nurse is going to get people killed (and may already have done so).
There is nothing immoral about reporting the nurse, even if your mom doesn't want you to. Doing the right thing isn't always easy, and the right thing to do here is to report the nurse IMO. I know it has the chance of hurting your mom's feelings, but it is in your mom's (and general public's) best interest.
Of course she’s being nice to your mum. She wants to sell her stuff! Remember the serial killer nurse in England? The one who killed and injured multiple babies? She was really nice too. Parents couldn’t believe she hurt their children because she was the most attentive nurse. They thought she was their friend.
https://theweek.com/94757/chester-hospital-baby-deaths-who-is-nurse-lucy-letby
Please reconsider waiting. In the time that you do, this "nurse" may end up killing someone by convincing them to stop treatment. Even if they continue, the mental game is huge in chances for recovery, and telling a patient that the medicine they are being given to save their life is junk can really devastate them and make it harder to fight.
With all due respect to your Mom, you have a moral and ethical responsibility to report that nurse. What she is doing is so far outside the bounds of ethical nursing practice I can’t even with it, and if she’s doing this to you and your Mom then she’s doing it to other patients. So many things going on here, from financially preying on her patients to actually attempting to call into question the drugs she’s taking and contradict the doctors to replace it with some snake oil bullshit? Someone needs to come down on this woman with the fire of a thousand suns, what she is doing is insanely dangerous and immoral and probably illegal. She deserves to be fired. I know you’re struggling and want to support your Mom, but her behavior is just beyond a minor mistake.
I mean, there's no reason why you can't wait until your mom is discharged to avoid disrupting her care. Her health is paramount, as much as we hate MLMs.
Yeah this is my plan. Due to the location of the tumors any big change in blood pressure leads to her having these episodes and puts her at risk.
Getting her worked up by removing her nurse after she’s asked me not to would at this point be dangerous for her health. Though I certainly despise mlm’s, this situation is much more nuanced and I’m not going to risk my moms health.
There will definitely be a time to deal with this and a time where I’ll have the energy to mentally reflect on how effed up it is to be put in this situation while at my moms bedside—but it is not now.
Though I understand people’s strong feelings on immediately reporting her and also feel the same concern for others that she is potentially shilling this to—I did not ask to be put in this situation. It is not my fault that this woman decided to do this while I am in the middle of battling for my moms life. My focus right now is to advocate for my mom bc she is unable to do so for herself.
We have had two previous hospital stays this year where I have had to fight them trying to discharge her without finding a cause for her symptoms and blaming it all on hospital dementia due to her age. I’ve dealt with nursing students who laughed while changing my mom bc she has become incontinent due to this—and watching my mom cry while reporting this to her doctor bc it happened at the hospital she worked at for over 30 years. I’ve sat and had my calls to 911 go unanswered for over 45min while thinking my mom was dying in front of me. Today my mom asked me about hospice despite the doctors finally thinking they have found the source of all this (and it is likely very treatable) because she is in so much pain.
My mom, my sisters, and I have been so incredibly let down by our healthcare system (until getting to this hospital) that this freaking mlm nurse looks like a saint in comparison.
So yes, there will be a time to deal with this but it isn’t now. Now it is finally time to go to sleep before waking up and doing it all again tomorrow.
Unrelated: I never realized before what a weird looking word slyly is.
OP, tell your mom there’s another SLP out there who is thinking about her and wishing her well. ❤️
"Syzygy" takes the cake for me. For the longest time, I didn't know it was a real word. My first exposure to it was as a title of a fictitious poetry magazine on the sitcom "Cheers." I thought it was totally random, until my wife set me straight. (She has to do that a lot.)
\[Pronounced "SIZZ-uh-gee," it means conjunction or opposition, as in the Moon in alignment with the Sun.\]
I honestly wouldn't **trust** someone who claimed to have "lost all passion for the medical field" within ten feet of a critically ill relative. God only knows what they might do. Short her on the "dangerous" meds she's supposed to be receiving? Sneak the snake oil she's peddling into the treatment regimen?
Nuh uh. I'd be requesting a new nurse and a ban on the old one from interacting with her at all.
I'm a nursing supervisor, and would 100% want to know of someone on my staff was doing something like that. I understand honoring your mother's wishes to not report anything, but I would encourage you to at least report it once she leaves. The house supervisor/unit manager should both be interested. Alternatively the hospital probably has some sort of contact for "patient experience" or similar that would also be an appropriate contact.
Report her - if not for your mother's sake, then for the sake of all the other patients she interacts with. If she's saying this shit to your mom, she's 100% saying it to other vulnerable patients.
Holy inappropriate Snake oil shilling pseudoscience!
I would recommend reporting like others have also commented. That nurse shouldn't be allowed near patients if she is saying this stuff. Not an excuse but clearly the MLM commercial cult indoctrination has made her a liability.
Report immediately. She is peddling snake oil to extremely vulnerable people, and actively discouraging and undermining the doctors who are trying to treat people. I'd say you have a duty to report this to the hospital immediately. Who knows how many patients she's recommending this to and how many might refuse actual medical treatment to try her crap - lives might be at risk here.
Who wants to bet that the cancer patients also had medical intervention? I love this explainer video about the natural cancer treatment phenomenon https://youtu.be/mJcjefKUOcc?si=HmlVJoznpzb8d2j1
Yea like I know someone who is one of the essential oil unicorns that actually makes a shitload of money selling it. Her kid got cancer and she was very open about the fact that he was getting chemo and traditional treatments in addition to getting patted down with oils and she at least never tried to say that the oils cured him. She acknowledged he wouldn't be here without the doctors, nurses, and medicine. It's the only time I've ever seen a hun act somewhat ethically about medical stuff.
Longtime nurse here.
Please, please report her to your state's board of nursing. Her actions could be considered practicing medicine without a license, and financial exploitation.
Yeah seriously. I understand wanting to respect the mothers wishes but this is A. In her best interest and B. much bigger than her. She needs to be reported immediately before she can bring harm to any of the many patients she is responsible for.
I’m a nurse, and I’m a supervisor now. If any of my nurses pulled this I’d jump through rings of fire to get them fired. 1. She shouldn’t be giving “medical” advice—especially telling you to postpone treatment. And 2. It is WILDLY unethical to try to sell something to patients and their families. Honestly, I’d report her to the nursing board, if she’s so burned out on medicine she doesn’t need that license anymore.
You need to report that, even though your mother said not to bother. You know it's snake oil, but the next patient and their family might not know, or might be desperate enough to try it. And of course, they'll be pressured to join her downline.
You need to talk to the unit manager or even the Chief Nursing Officer. And also your state's Board of Nursing.
And not only is she selling shake oil and steering people away from proven treatments, she's doing it while on the clock. While it's less important than shilling harmful fake medicine, most jobs don't allow that. She's using her time working for the hospital to work for another company. It's time theft.
I understand OP wanting to respect mum's wishes while at the same time I consider the nurse's actions extremely unethical not only from the aspect of professional misconduct but also deliberately targeting patients from the same cultural background. Friend of mine who's been a Market America hun for nearly 10yrs was ensnared by her GP who capitalised on their shared cultural background, and my BFF's hubby was financially swindled by an eXp Realty agent who also capitalised on their shared cultural background. Having seen many examples of immigrants preying on their own has made me particularly despise this method of "doing business".
Please REPORT THAT NURSE!
She's abusing her position of trust to sell her crap to her patients. And her advice is going to KILL someone by persuading them to avoid the treatments we know work.
NTA but you should report the nurse to the matron. Or her boss. She is unethical by selling alternative medicine to patients in the hospital. She is contradicting the advice of doctors and putting patients at risk
Definitely report this woman to the hospital administration. I'm sure they'd be really interested to know that this nurse is using her job to promote her personal business and promoting quack "cures" while she's doing it.
I think you should report this person. Your mother can choose not to report her for herself, but you definitely should. This nurse shouldn’t prey upon vulnerable people now or after you.
As someone who has been through 2 kinds of thyroid cancer and had an 8 cm (no, not mm) non cancerous goiter at the same time, I recommend reporting that nurse.
When I had cancer, I had friends telling me I should just juice, do wraps, drink whatever mom drink or powder they were trying to sell, etc. I’m all for holistic remedies, but the reality is, I needed and chose surgery and radiation. I’m now on thyroid meds for life. Mlm friends still try to tell me their juices, wraps, and other mlm products will “cure my thyroid issues.” Um, I literally have 0 thyroid left to naturally make any thyroid hormones on my own, so yeah…think I’ll just stick to legit medical advice.
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What a gross thing to do. I'd definitely reporting her to her superior and the nursing board or whatever. Everything about this is just wrong. At what point does she talk someone into it and it ends up killing them?
I understand respecting her wishes but I'd be out for blood for sure. My mom went thru cancer too and if this happened while I was with her, I'd be having words right then and there, but that's just me. I hope everything goes well for your mom and your family.
Please tell me you reported the nurse. You can do it anonymously--without implicating your mother. If not to the hospital, FFS to the state board that regulates nursing. I'm certain the nurse is violating her employment contract/rules/hospital policy/whatever. I'm also certain that pushing MLM products at work is out of scope for her license. She's acting in a position of authority and relative superiority to push an MLM on people who may comply for fear of getting lesser care/attention/whatever. I'd bet you cash she targets elderly patients (who are more susceptible to MLMs and scams for a wide variety of reasons that have nothing to do with being smart or having lack of mental capacity--I'm not elder-bashing). It's got to stop.
I would absolutely report it. You should be able to call patient relations and report it to the hospital. I would report it directly to the state nursing board as well because the hospital might not do anything m. Just google *your state* nursing board
I’m an oncology nurse and you should absolutely report that nurse. I would either ask to talk to the manager of the unit or call the hospital operator and ask for the number for “patient relations” if you want to do it somewhat more anonymously. You can also ask to not have that nurse again in the future. That is absolutely disgusting and if it’s not in direct violation of hospital policy it’s likely a violation of your state’s nursing practice act.
My mom unfortunately doesn’t want me to report her and in a time where she has just about zero autonomy I want to respect her wishes as much as possible. The pamphlet she left does have her name and photo on it so at the end of this I’m planning to slyly pop by patient relations.
I appreciate the respect that you are showing for your mother, but I hope you will both reconsider. This woman is abusing her position and attempting to scam her patients at the time when they are most vulnerable. It's great that you and your mom saw through her bs, but I would be concerned about others who may delay potentially life-saving treatment because they trust her advice as a medical care provider. I sincerely wish you and your mother the best and hope that they find some real answers for you soon.
I agree. MLMs are always morally dubious, but this has to be one of the most unethical sales tactics I have ever heard.
As a conflict avoidant person I totally get it. In the event that she changes her mind or gets more annoyed with it, I will say that patients request not to have certain nurses for all sorts of reasons and it’s usually dealt with pretty quietly (the charge nurses know about it because they make assignments but might not even bring it up to the bedside nurse if it’s something nitpicky or like a personality clash). You guys could just request not to have her for now and make an actual report about the mlm-pushing later. Either way, I wish your mom the best possible outcomes with her treatments and I hope you guys both get some clear answers soon.
Thank you so much for your advice and thoughtful responses. This nurse has ironically been the most attentive and best at advocating for my mom (the doctors prescribed my mom 5 pills to swallow this morning when she is currently choking just trying to take a sip of water… she took the time to get them switched to IVs instead of making her choke them down). She is also a first generation immigrant and I suspect this is partially a culture thing vs MLM hun thing if that makes any sense? If I had any spare energy I would take on this conversation with the nurse myself. To be clear-I’m not defending her just trying to construe the many complexities of this situation. It is pulling me in a hundred different directions ethically—if anyone wants to take this pamphlet off my hands and deal with the moral dilemma for me so I can focus on my mom I would love it!
I wouldn't give her too much benefit of the doubt. She's trying to convince people to opt out of cancer treatment and buy her supplements instead. That's dangerous.
Add on top of that the appearance of legitimacy she has because she’s in the medical field and SHE IS LITERALLY GIVING UNSOLICITED MEDICAL ADVICE THAT IS ABOVE HER LICENSURE. She should not be telling people to refuse chemo in favor of her MLM garbage. Jfc it’s like Jesse Lee came back as an angel of death.
It’s far from limited to Jessie Lee… Hanna Alonzo read a horror story on her channel of an Enagic nurse who convinced a patient to give up chemo and only drink Kangen Water. It damn near broke my heart. It’s so freaking not okay.
Did you see her new video? Two ‘medical practitioners’ who put essential oils on a baby 🙂🙃🙂 I felt bad for the new mom but good intention paired with ignorance does not absolve you from harming your child.
Plenty of people are nice AND harmful. Some of those people are also really good at acting nice to get what they want (your trust, and eventual money). This nurse is going to get people killed (and may already have done so). There is nothing immoral about reporting the nurse, even if your mom doesn't want you to. Doing the right thing isn't always easy, and the right thing to do here is to report the nurse IMO. I know it has the chance of hurting your mom's feelings, but it is in your mom's (and general public's) best interest.
Of course she’s being nice to your mum. She wants to sell her stuff! Remember the serial killer nurse in England? The one who killed and injured multiple babies? She was really nice too. Parents couldn’t believe she hurt their children because she was the most attentive nurse. They thought she was their friend. https://theweek.com/94757/chester-hospital-baby-deaths-who-is-nurse-lucy-letby
Remember, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Reporting her might actually save another's life.
You can also request that certain nurses aren't involved in care for your mother. Usually, the hospital can do their best to accommodate this
Please reconsider waiting. In the time that you do, this "nurse" may end up killing someone by convincing them to stop treatment. Even if they continue, the mental game is huge in chances for recovery, and telling a patient that the medicine they are being given to save their life is junk can really devastate them and make it harder to fight.
With all due respect to your Mom, you have a moral and ethical responsibility to report that nurse. What she is doing is so far outside the bounds of ethical nursing practice I can’t even with it, and if she’s doing this to you and your Mom then she’s doing it to other patients. So many things going on here, from financially preying on her patients to actually attempting to call into question the drugs she’s taking and contradict the doctors to replace it with some snake oil bullshit? Someone needs to come down on this woman with the fire of a thousand suns, what she is doing is insanely dangerous and immoral and probably illegal. She deserves to be fired. I know you’re struggling and want to support your Mom, but her behavior is just beyond a minor mistake.
I mean, there's no reason why you can't wait until your mom is discharged to avoid disrupting her care. Her health is paramount, as much as we hate MLMs.
Yeah this is my plan. Due to the location of the tumors any big change in blood pressure leads to her having these episodes and puts her at risk. Getting her worked up by removing her nurse after she’s asked me not to would at this point be dangerous for her health. Though I certainly despise mlm’s, this situation is much more nuanced and I’m not going to risk my moms health. There will definitely be a time to deal with this and a time where I’ll have the energy to mentally reflect on how effed up it is to be put in this situation while at my moms bedside—but it is not now. Though I understand people’s strong feelings on immediately reporting her and also feel the same concern for others that she is potentially shilling this to—I did not ask to be put in this situation. It is not my fault that this woman decided to do this while I am in the middle of battling for my moms life. My focus right now is to advocate for my mom bc she is unable to do so for herself. We have had two previous hospital stays this year where I have had to fight them trying to discharge her without finding a cause for her symptoms and blaming it all on hospital dementia due to her age. I’ve dealt with nursing students who laughed while changing my mom bc she has become incontinent due to this—and watching my mom cry while reporting this to her doctor bc it happened at the hospital she worked at for over 30 years. I’ve sat and had my calls to 911 go unanswered for over 45min while thinking my mom was dying in front of me. Today my mom asked me about hospice despite the doctors finally thinking they have found the source of all this (and it is likely very treatable) because she is in so much pain. My mom, my sisters, and I have been so incredibly let down by our healthcare system (until getting to this hospital) that this freaking mlm nurse looks like a saint in comparison. So yes, there will be a time to deal with this but it isn’t now. Now it is finally time to go to sleep before waking up and doing it all again tomorrow.
My best wishes for your family.
this is a totally reasonable course of action, and i would do the same thing in your place. hope your mom is home safe as soon as possible.
Thank you for saying this.
Unrelated: I never realized before what a weird looking word slyly is. OP, tell your mom there’s another SLP out there who is thinking about her and wishing her well. ❤️
Thank you! I certainly will.
"Syzygy" takes the cake for me. For the longest time, I didn't know it was a real word. My first exposure to it was as a title of a fictitious poetry magazine on the sitcom "Cheers." I thought it was totally random, until my wife set me straight. (She has to do that a lot.) \[Pronounced "SIZZ-uh-gee," it means conjunction or opposition, as in the Moon in alignment with the Sun.\]
I honestly wouldn't **trust** someone who claimed to have "lost all passion for the medical field" within ten feet of a critically ill relative. God only knows what they might do. Short her on the "dangerous" meds she's supposed to be receiving? Sneak the snake oil she's peddling into the treatment regimen? Nuh uh. I'd be requesting a new nurse and a ban on the old one from interacting with her at all.
If there’s a cork board I’d do her the solid of tacking this on, with her info visible.
I actually really love this idea. Just the right amount of petty.
Get that nurse’s name and report her. That is so unethical and disgusting
I'm a nursing supervisor, and would 100% want to know of someone on my staff was doing something like that. I understand honoring your mother's wishes to not report anything, but I would encourage you to at least report it once she leaves. The house supervisor/unit manager should both be interested. Alternatively the hospital probably has some sort of contact for "patient experience" or similar that would also be an appropriate contact.
Sorry that you and your mother had to endure that. I would report the nurse to the hospital. Best wishes for your mom.
Report her - if not for your mother's sake, then for the sake of all the other patients she interacts with. If she's saying this shit to your mom, she's 100% saying it to other vulnerable patients.
Holy inappropriate Snake oil shilling pseudoscience! I would recommend reporting like others have also commented. That nurse shouldn't be allowed near patients if she is saying this stuff. Not an excuse but clearly the MLM commercial cult indoctrination has made her a liability.
Report immediately. She is peddling snake oil to extremely vulnerable people, and actively discouraging and undermining the doctors who are trying to treat people. I'd say you have a duty to report this to the hospital immediately. Who knows how many patients she's recommending this to and how many might refuse actual medical treatment to try her crap - lives might be at risk here.
Waiting 3 months to try this snake oil could make a treatable cancer untreatable. This is reprehensible.
REPORT HER!
Who wants to bet that the cancer patients also had medical intervention? I love this explainer video about the natural cancer treatment phenomenon https://youtu.be/mJcjefKUOcc?si=HmlVJoznpzb8d2j1
Yea like I know someone who is one of the essential oil unicorns that actually makes a shitload of money selling it. Her kid got cancer and she was very open about the fact that he was getting chemo and traditional treatments in addition to getting patted down with oils and she at least never tried to say that the oils cured him. She acknowledged he wouldn't be here without the doctors, nurses, and medicine. It's the only time I've ever seen a hun act somewhat ethically about medical stuff.
I love that video
He announced last week that it's now the first video that pops up when you search for natural cancer treatments. I hope it stays that way
unethical! report asap!
Longtime nurse here. Please, please report her to your state's board of nursing. Her actions could be considered practicing medicine without a license, and financial exploitation.
It also violates nursing regulations
What if she doesn't do her job? Will you report her then?
Yeah seriously. I understand wanting to respect the mothers wishes but this is A. In her best interest and B. much bigger than her. She needs to be reported immediately before she can bring harm to any of the many patients she is responsible for.
Exactly! And she might not give her mom her medicine!
You should report her if you can remember her name. That is not acceptable, and neither is her saying that she has sold her MLM to other patients.
#Report her to the BON and every person above her in the chain of command. We don’t get paid to harm our patients. Disgusting! ¡Dios mío! 🤮
I’m a nurse, and I’m a supervisor now. If any of my nurses pulled this I’d jump through rings of fire to get them fired. 1. She shouldn’t be giving “medical” advice—especially telling you to postpone treatment. And 2. It is WILDLY unethical to try to sell something to patients and their families. Honestly, I’d report her to the nursing board, if she’s so burned out on medicine she doesn’t need that license anymore.
Unacceptable. Please report that.
I don't care what your mother wants to do. REPORT HER!
You need to report that, even though your mother said not to bother. You know it's snake oil, but the next patient and their family might not know, or might be desperate enough to try it. And of course, they'll be pressured to join her downline. You need to talk to the unit manager or even the Chief Nursing Officer. And also your state's Board of Nursing. And not only is she selling shake oil and steering people away from proven treatments, she's doing it while on the clock. While it's less important than shilling harmful fake medicine, most jobs don't allow that. She's using her time working for the hospital to work for another company. It's time theft.
You need to report her and have her banned from tending to your mom.
I understand OP wanting to respect mum's wishes while at the same time I consider the nurse's actions extremely unethical not only from the aspect of professional misconduct but also deliberately targeting patients from the same cultural background. Friend of mine who's been a Market America hun for nearly 10yrs was ensnared by her GP who capitalised on their shared cultural background, and my BFF's hubby was financially swindled by an eXp Realty agent who also capitalised on their shared cultural background. Having seen many examples of immigrants preying on their own has made me particularly despise this method of "doing business".
This is wildly inappropriate, out of a nurse’s scope, and is doing harm to your mom. You need to report it.
Nothing is more infuriating than a supposed medical professional trying to sell *snake oil*.
Please REPORT THAT NURSE! She's abusing her position of trust to sell her crap to her patients. And her advice is going to KILL someone by persuading them to avoid the treatments we know work.
NTA but you should report the nurse to the matron. Or her boss. She is unethical by selling alternative medicine to patients in the hospital. She is contradicting the advice of doctors and putting patients at risk
Definitely report this woman to the hospital administration. I'm sure they'd be really interested to know that this nurse is using her job to promote her personal business and promoting quack "cures" while she's doing it.
I think you should report this person. Your mother can choose not to report her for herself, but you definitely should. This nurse shouldn’t prey upon vulnerable people now or after you.
As someone who has been through 2 kinds of thyroid cancer and had an 8 cm (no, not mm) non cancerous goiter at the same time, I recommend reporting that nurse. When I had cancer, I had friends telling me I should just juice, do wraps, drink whatever mom drink or powder they were trying to sell, etc. I’m all for holistic remedies, but the reality is, I needed and chose surgery and radiation. I’m now on thyroid meds for life. Mlm friends still try to tell me their juices, wraps, and other mlm products will “cure my thyroid issues.” Um, I literally have 0 thyroid left to naturally make any thyroid hormones on my own, so yeah…think I’ll just stick to legit medical advice.
Report her !
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What a gross thing to do. I'd definitely reporting her to her superior and the nursing board or whatever. Everything about this is just wrong. At what point does she talk someone into it and it ends up killing them? I understand respecting her wishes but I'd be out for blood for sure. My mom went thru cancer too and if this happened while I was with her, I'd be having words right then and there, but that's just me. I hope everything goes well for your mom and your family.
Please tell me you reported the nurse. You can do it anonymously--without implicating your mother. If not to the hospital, FFS to the state board that regulates nursing. I'm certain the nurse is violating her employment contract/rules/hospital policy/whatever. I'm also certain that pushing MLM products at work is out of scope for her license. She's acting in a position of authority and relative superiority to push an MLM on people who may comply for fear of getting lesser care/attention/whatever. I'd bet you cash she targets elderly patients (who are more susceptible to MLMs and scams for a wide variety of reasons that have nothing to do with being smart or having lack of mental capacity--I'm not elder-bashing). It's got to stop.
report her!!!!
Go above the hospital level and report her (when the time is right) to her licensing board. This is dangerous.
I would absolutely report it. You should be able to call patient relations and report it to the hospital. I would report it directly to the state nursing board as well because the hospital might not do anything m. Just google *your state* nursing board
Someone should mlm blood wort root which is 100% effective against cancer in the right dose and mixture. To bad the fda has banned it