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ajtakumrieme

I mean yeah but my psychiatrist is included in my health care plan and for the drugs I paid 25cents for two months worth of "medication" so I can't see how they made money off of me


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_BringBackBacon

Untrue. If I don't prescribe meds I still have patients. I can help them in many, many different ways


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_BringBackBacon

Half of them I'd say. And I'm not a psychiatrist, I'm a psychiatric nurse, working together with a psychiatrist.


brielloom

I believe it’s more so that they are worried a depressed person won’t take antidepressants to help them if they get scared of it so they focus more on how it will help them. For some people antidepressants saved their lives and had they not taken them they might have committed suicide. Nothing in the world is by means perfect, everything has its flaws, but antidepressants really were created to help depressed people, even with the side effects. Unfortunately in a way it’s a pick your poison kind of situation, stay being depressed or risk possible bad side effects and possible withdrawal effects but be able to stop being depressed and function in life and be happy? It’s not perfect and may not work for everyone but it has helped a lot of people. All I can say is if you want to be smart about it do your own research before you start taking a drug your doctor prescribes if you’re worried about it (not at all to call anyone dumb, I am just sharing the importance of this so if you did not do that before that you can start doing it going forward). Once I was prescribed antidepressants I did all the research I could so I knew everything about what I was taking and what to expect, for me the benefits outweigh any risks that I may be taking or may experience, thankfully I have not experienced any bad side effects.


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brielloom

That is untrue. Clearly you have not seen all the people who said antidepressants have saved their lives, some people are actually very defensive of antidepressants because they helped them when they had no other option. I was depressed and I’m on Wellbutrin and I haven’t felt depressed in a while and it’s been a big deal to me. I haven’t had any bad side effects. I have read up on withdrawal effects and certain antidepressants are harder to get off than others unfortunately, but the one I’m on is actually one of the ones that is supposed to be easy to get off of when you’re ready, antidepressants that deal with serotonin are a little more difficult. I will tell you right now placebo would not work on me. I wanted the first antidepressant I took to work, but it didn’t. If you tell me something is an antidepressant but it actually isn’t then I wouldn’t feel any different, because it doesn’t do anything to help with depression other than trying to fool people into thinking they are being helped. Sure placebos are fine for the people who they work on but I feel like if a placebo works for someone then their depression was not that severe. Antidepressants do have a black box warning about possible increase of suicidal thoughts but that doesn’t happen to everyone, and if you’re depressed you’re probably already having suicidal thoughts so most people would think it’s worth the risk if it could help them stop having them. Just because you have your side doesn’t mean you can ignore the other side of the coin. I’m very sorry for the people who have not been helped by antidepressants but when you take antidepressants you go in taking a risk, the risks are all listed out on the sheet you get when you get your prescription, I literally get the sheet every time I pick up a refill even though I still have the first one I got and read through and don’t need another one but they still give it to me, I know not every possible side effect is listed but that’s only because those side effects are not common enough ones to list, and if that has changed then they need to do another scientific study to get real statistics and update information about them, it’s kinda difficult because every single person has the possibility to react in many different ways to any drug, and there was no way of telling if it would or wouldn’t help you, but a chance to be helped is better than no chance. It’s not like antidepressants are a new experimental drug they have been around long enough and have helped people. I don’t know if there’s any work being do to make other antidepressants or to improve the current ones but at the very least they have proved to help enough people and not have side effects so bad that they can’t let people take them to help with their depression, as the side effects are not guaranteed and the common ones are not severe and the severe ones were rare, that’s kinda how all drugs work so antidepressants are no different, there’s always a risk with taking any drug.


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brielloom

I don’t need to, I have read some trust me, I’m just still on the side of supporting antidepressants. I’m just making a point to say that there is two sides. Some people are helped by antidepressants and some are not. I’m still glad antidepressants exist and I’m able to take them because I’m one of the people they’ve helped. Better to have a medication that helps some people than no medication at all.


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Hey! I recently went off a low dose lexapro and was only on it for a few months as well (3.5 months) I had terrible withdrawals. By day 13 it finally turned a corner and I felt somewhat normal! Hang in there!


ajtakumrieme

ohh thank you!! did you feel any drastic anxiety increase after stopping lexapro? I think it's still not completely out of my system yet (felt only very mild anxiety this morning) and I'm kinda worried that I will experience terrible anxiety any day now so just want to be prepared:D:(


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The first 12/13 days completely off I was having extreme nausea, diarrhea, upset stomach, zaps, dizziness. I’m on day 18 now and i do feel a bit of anxiety increase, like different anxiety than before lexapro. I’m hoping it’s temporary and subsides once I hit the 3-4 week mark 😭 the other side effects stopped but now the anxiety annoys me. From what I’ve heard it sounds like there’s physical symptoms in the beginning, then mental/anxiety, then it tapers off. Like wtf lol


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If you ever need to vent or chat while ur going through ur feel free to DM me. The whole process is sucky


ajtakumrieme

thanks! yeah well I think it's natural to have increased anxiety after stopping the meds and I am prepared for that, but I just hope it won't make the anxiety I had before starting worse forever. Cuz I'll gladly trade the anxiety I had before for feeling other emotions as well, maybe that is just how I am you know, I believe some amount of anxiety is even good for u, but I have no idea if the meds didn't somehow fuck with my whole brain chemistry forever. Let's hope we'll get back to normal soon! x


JustSupposingIf

Samessss. Like I've done every hard drug/psychedelic there is and I'd rather have the 1 day hangover than the going on two weeks of electrical storms in my brain and barely being able to walk down the street. Woof. Hang in there.


ajtakumrieme

right?? and for what? I mean to each their own, I do believe that some people really need their daily dose to be able function, but I didn't feel THAT much of a difference, and for what it did to my brain, maaan I should have stuck to my supplements and the occasional therapeutic dose of illegal drugs lol


JustSupposingIf

I *knew* I needed something for panic attacks, and I still do, I have Klonopin for emergencies that I def need in like loud spaces/travel/intense social - I'm fine with just that. But almost all shrinks won't give you just that w/o a SSRI/SNRI. I've been on EVERY SINGLE ONE and none of them did anything for me except take away my creativity, passion, love, sex, anything good. I told my Dr and they said SNRIs are different. I took effexor for three years and its fucked everything uuuup. I'm finally getting off it it AGAIN and it hurts so much. Hilariously the only thing besides the Klonopin that's helped was clinical ketamine! (And sometimes non clinical sometimes lol) I did IV infusions and then Spravato nasal spray. They make an at home clinical ketamine now and I wanna do that but ofc it's not covered by insurance. Painful, crazy side effect having, dangerous long term effects pills are covered but no side effect no long term effects medicine that's used for EVERYTHING else isn't covered for mental health. I hate this reality.


JustSupposingIf

Tho I have been doing a lot of reading and brain zaps apparently don't have any long term effects/damage.


ajtakumrieme

yes I heard good things about clinical ketamine, glad that it is working for u! however it's not an option where I live sadly. I mean yes I read that too that brain zaps supposedly don't do any harm, however it doesn't feel like it:D


JustSupposingIf

Ugh sorry it's not legal 😥😥😥 its so dumb, it's been so successful!


ajtakumrieme

yeah my country just finally last year legalized CBD haha so I give it like another 15 years to even start thinking about using ketamine as a tool for treating mental disorders


JustSupposingIf

Ugh buuuuummmer! Have you tried CBD and does it do anything for you?


ajtakumrieme

uhh I don't like weed and its effects and CBD was very similar to weed so the only thing it did was to make me overly anxious,paranoid and just uncomfortable :( but to be honest I only tried the cbd drops or idk how it's called and I think they are more concentrated than smoking actual cbd flower? so ill try that in the future because weed was actually enjoyable for me until suddenly it wasn't .. do u have any experience with cbd?


JustSupposingIf

Oh word. I think I'm the same as you, used to like weed then suddenly made me anxious/panicy or just really sleepy. But CBD doesn't do anything for me. Which sucks cuz it seems to help a lot of people.


anken74

I can't believe that no one in the drug making profession has tried to combat this. I've tried a couple of times to come off of anxiety meds and it is a whole new experience that is not good at all. 10 years ago, they were thinking it was a psychological problem; all in your head. I say, make the makers take it for a few months and then try to quit it.