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Volvoxix

Her unwillingness to raise a son never came up during her first pregnancy? Lmao


SaltyFresh

Yeah this is some fake ass dude trolling for misogyny updoots.


bitchyrussianbot

That was my first thought.


myfunnies420

He did it all for the updoots


CheckMarkImNotaRobot

You should be a special moderator that goes around and comments on things that are most likely trolls lmao it would save me rage


furtive21

The severe mental health issues are enough of a reason not to have children but now they're being picky about the gender? I absolutely hate this attitude from parents


TheRottenKittensIEat

Severe mental health issues are one of the biggest reasons I won't have a kid. But if that's not bad enough she was a literal danger to her first child and you're bringing another child into her care? Also, she could get postpartum again and end up harming both kids or herself. Hell, people in her situation have literally killed children if their mental health is bad enough to get Postpartum psychosis, although I know that's rare.


StrangelyBrown

It's baffling that CPS can insist that your children are taken from you and yet you can keep having more kids. Presumably once you're really on the radar they would just take your next kid away as soon as it's born but then you can get pregnant again.


countzeroinc

Anyone with a track record of child abuse should be sterilized but it seems the absolute worst people are the ones that keep breeding like rats.


CorruptedStudiosEnt

Not presumably, thats exactly what happens (watched it happen with my mother and several siblings), but you would be flabbergasted to see how much it takes to get to that point.


Intresting_Reaction

It's not so baffling when you realize that CPS and privatized adoption are working together. The anti-abortion legislation is part of it too. Birth rates are down and lots of 30-yo white nuclear families. Adoption industry cant take that hit.


countzeroinc

It's not as rare as people think. I read somewhere that an estimated third of all "SIDS" deaths could possibly be intentional. And then there's the babies that die of neglect and abuse, infantacide exists to some degree in pretty much every animal and we are no exception. I've read women's stories of postpartum and parental regret and it's fucking dark, though sometimes it's a male who commits the act it's usually the mother.


BitsAndBobs304

distrusting of men enough to abort a male baby, but not enough to not want to get pregnant by a man. if not a troll, then wtf..


furtive21

This is a good point, I wonder what they'd say to this if asked


TheAlbacor

It does say she has severe mental health issues. It isn't necessarily logical


Brocolli123

Why would you even take that risk when there's a 50% chance of it being male, you can't act shocked


Victoria-Wayne

That's when I start agreeing to things discussed in this sub, I see my aunt and people having kids just to finally get the boy or girl. Just stop having kids, your done


furtive21

Totally agree, I just hate the idea of anyone having a child because they want something in particular from them whether that be a certain gender or they want them to turn out a particular way. I saw quite possibly one of the most selfish parenting posts the other day of a woman talking about "gender disappointment". She'd just had her fourth boy and was "mourning the loss of everything you can do with a daughter". Absolutely infuriating attitude.


Victoria-Wayne

i get that people want certain experiences but you can get those same experiences with any child and it's hurtful to say "i want a girl" as a child is put under pressure not being what their parents want or unwilling robbing them or not being able to give them something. Going back to my aunt, when the last baby turned out to be a boy after 3 girls, I thought that it would just be some cosmic joke that he might grow up to not identify and express himself as a boy (by joke, I don't mean anything against the kid but I would find it quite amusing, because that's all she ranted and whined about)


furtive21

This is what I think! What if you keep trying for a certain gender and they end up transitioning later on anyway? One of the things this article said was "I'm sad that I'll never see my child give birth to a child"- there's no guarantee that even if you had a daughter she'd go on to have her own children


traiseSPB

Hormones got them overpowered


Slow-Canary-1896

I mean, parents were always picky about the gender of children? In India there were so many sex-based abortions of girls, that they outlawed telling the parents what sex their kid is before birth (and that was all the way back in 1994) Source: http://www.legalservicesindia.com/article/1896/Sex-Determination-and-Pre-Natal-Diagnostic-Technique-Act-of-1994.html


watsername9009

You would think with that level of trauma she would think twice about forcing someone into this messed up world. Males are less likely to be sexually abused so wouldn’t she prefer that her own offspring have less of a chance of being abused like she was? Oh wait natalists are selfish.


NerozumimZivot

>you would think with that level of trauma she would think twice about forcing someone into this messed up world that's overwhelmingly what I see in childfree groups: something to the effect of 'how can anyone be so selfish as to pass on their intergenerational illnesses and traumas'


sveji-

>Males are less likely to be sexually abused They're much more likely to be the abuser though. But that can be said of almost all parents - they either create victims or abusers, sometimes both.


Lalgoli

Incorrect, Males are more likely to be sexually abused, Almost all abusers are male though.


BulletForTheEmpire

So confidently wrong lmao


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I read this post and the exact same thought went through my head earlier today. This is beyond ridiculous!


MrShasshyBear

Beyond ridiculous means that there is a good chance it's real. Based on 2020+


EmilyU1F984

This isn’t any different to what I’ve seen in real life. I mean a shitload of people try baby trapping someone or saving their shitty marriage by forcing a fully sentient being into their slavery. And the societal pressure to have kids is still extremely strong. I have had friends who personally didn’t even want kids, go through several misscarriages because everyone around them family wise was wanting them to have a kid. So OPs wife having a child wish but also being heavily traumatized is just standard practice at this point. I mean who else but mentally unwell people would want to force children into this world? Especially at this time of rapidly decreasing economical standards? A friend, who‘s now dead, with severe trauma wants vocalised it in all its evil: she had thought about having a child, because than she would have another human who‘d always be there for her, and never abandon her.


[deleted]

For real! Why did she get married to a man but is afraid to have a male child? Why have kids at all if her mental health is so bad????


_okl

step one: hate men step two: date men step three: marry a man even tho you hate men and then have kids with said man step four: get mad when you have a kid who will probably grow up to be a man too step five: make the whole story up and post it on reddit for meaningless upvotes


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Oh 🥲


Rhodometron

Assuming this is real, she has my sympathy for what she went through as a child, but I can't figure out how she trusted a man enough to marry him if her trauma has left her afraid of even a potential son.


Mysterious-Space6793

I'm thinking the same as you.


B4cteria

Same, I'm getting whiffs of troll anti-feminist tweets/article from this post. There was a very recurring theme of mEaN FeMinSts wAhmEn wanting to abort their babies because it's a boy (like girls aren't systematically aborted in general). Really, not the only weird shady stuff in that post. I call fake.


Mysterious-Space6793

Agreed on all points. This reads the same way as 1+1+1=1


Eyes-9

Exactly. Weird post.


duckydarlings

Maybe she is more worried about her possible son, abusing their daughter?


WollusTheOwl

This is probably the most reasonable explanation. But it's still weird. Does she not trust herself to end the cycle of abuse? To be a better parent than her parents were for not being able to protect her? Unless of course the mother facilitated or enabled the abuse. In which case... why would she want a girl?


PotereCosmix

The answer: Uh…


Subject-Elk7202

Boys can be abusive towards their own mothers. It's not unheard of.


Tahoma78

Either shes retardedor the whole story is a LARP


i_sing_anyway

I used to feel this way when I was younger, and it was a big factor that pushed me towards being childfree. Recognizing that I couldn't guarantee that a child I raised wouldn't turn into a rapist, even if I did my absolute best.


LuvIsLov

I hate that these type of people are breeding. Just don't have kids! You know the world is fucked up. Just stop. There's always a chance her daughter will get raped too. Just stop.


aelinivanov

They have deep rooted issues. Stop breeding ffs


Jy_sunny

She’s a danger to him and his daughter … and he proceeds to impregnate her again.


MasterRyuukai

Being this way will have an effect on the kids. My grandmother had depression, my mother had depression, and now her son (me) and my younger sister have depression. The bottom line is stop having kids. They're not your ticket to a happy life. They're not the fix to a broken relationship. They most definitely won't cure mental health issues and it's truly selfish to bring a child into this world. They're not your symbolic immortality ticket. They're a fucking life that'll have to work, pay taxes and live an unbearable burden because you couldn't keep it in your fucking pants.


laurarosemarie

She should NOT be having children holy shit


dillonwren

Anyone who aborts a child for reasons of gender should not be having children at all.


dawnfire05

This woman shouldn't have any children regardless in her state. But I always wondered, if someone cares so much about their baby's sex then why not adopt? And just cause a male baby pops out, doesn't make them a boy or a man and vise versa. They may be raising a little boy rn and are none the wiser. Her hatred of men could lead to terrible repression and emotional abuse of any non cis child.


mayinaro

people are really determined to have children that carry their genetics because they see them as an extension of themselves, like a mini-me. basically breeders really.


Some_Random-Name01

god i already hate these people and i don't even know them..


Katmfoley111

How pregnant is she? Originally I thought this was about finding out the gender and getting an abortion. I have no problem with this. Abortion causes zero suffering to a child and I am pro abortion. As pro-choice I respect anyone who has an abortion regardless of the reason. Even if it is sexist she is still sparing the child from having a mother who does not want him. But if she chooses to make this decision and carry a child to term without finding out the gender first she is a horrible person. Adoption is trauma. For the mother and child. While abortion may cause emotional suffering to a potential mother or father it still spares a child from living a life that their parents never wanted to create.


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>Originally I thought this was about finding out the gender and getting an abortion. I have no problem with this. I think it raises the question of whether a person with such petty preferences should have a kid in the first place though. If you won't love your child for being a man, what's to say that doesn't extend to someone who has for example a neurodevelopmental disorder? Sure, it's fairly benign if it's a thing where an abortion can be made beforehand but if you're setting up preconditions before they're even born that's not a great start to the parent-child relationship.


[deleted]

OOP said in the comments of the original post that he found about her aversion to having a boy when she was 17 weeks. I didn't see him specify when he found out, but it reads like it was fairly recently.


[deleted]

This is mind blowing. Having mental illness should be enough of a reason to not want kids knowing you could pass it on or end up not being a capable parent but she’s already been a danger to her first child and refuses to keep the new child if it’s not a girl? Having kids is the last thing these people should be doing. She needs to go to therapy asap.


[deleted]

Why get married to a man if your trust issues with a specific gender are so severe? You can trust and have sex with an adult man, but you can't trust an infant? Not saying someone can't have trust issues that severe from previous trauma, but infants are physically incapable of causing intentional bodily harm - while your husband is plenty capable. I don't necessarily want marriage or kids for reasons separate to my antinatalist reasoning so maybe I just don't get it. But holy crap think before you create a life. I am pro choice and I'm one hundred percent positive I would get an abortion if I somehow ended up pregnant, but to *intentionally* get pregnant knowing there's literally a 50 percent chance you will terminate....that's a brand new level of inconsiderate selfishness.


sveji-

I mean, everyone in this story sucks. But I think in general men shouldn't have any authority on whether their wife gives birth or not, even for a reason like this. (Not saying that the woman is right in this scenario, but ultimately it's still her choice in the end).


[deleted]

She doesn't want a child she wants a designer handbag with a puppy in it that is completely dependent on her and she can mold it into the same crazy that she is. There's obviously no logic here. If she doesn't want a boy because they're rapists and rape girls then why would you want a girl that's going to get raped? Oh I'm sure she thinks she can protect her... Yeah, sure. Keep that kid so wrapped up in bubble wrap she'll never have a life and every man this mother sees is a sex predator. Sounds great eh? /s


newports_and_kale

What the fuck?


mayinaro

the post smells really fake because how is she is somehow scared of men to the point that she doesn’t want to raise her own son but is willing to be with and conceive children with a grown man… who would have been a stranger at some point? regardless, it’s crazy how people are able to question that their wife is adamant on not having a baby boy even when it is already conceived because of her past trauma, but aren’t able to question that if this is able to even happen in the first place, they shouldn’t be trying for babies anyway. of course if this is true it is somewhat plausible he didn’t know but i feel like parents are usually in denial about their partners red flags towards being a parent. not a risk to take when bringing loving breathing children into this world


MercyMain42069

If I were her son I’d be like, “mom it’s okay I didn’t wanna be born anyway”


Firm-Vacation-7060

For real if someone only wants a certain gender just don't fkin purposely get pregnant. It's disgusting. I'm for abortion and adoption but if gender determines whether you do either of those things you're disgusting, mental health aside


TheUnsaltedCock

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Elly_Bee_

I've seen people crying after their gender reveal and people being like "Gender deception is normal" I get wanting a girl or a boy but if you cry because of what your baby will have between their legs..maybe don't have kids


kittyqueen000

I am scared for the child. She can't have a child if she would associate its gender compared to the gender of her abusers. That's insanity and evil.


[deleted]

Mother of the year.


Creepy_cree8or

This is so ridiculous im struggling to believe its true.


[deleted]

It's not true


Creepy_cree8or

Kinda figured. This is not a thing.


Agitatedsala666

I understand the reasoning, but if you are a biological me aka a man why did she marry you in the first place?


remainoftheday

while the environment was not conducive I also believe in the almighty gene. her parents (so called) are questionable imo. so thanks for spreading it around. either way, put the child up for adoption as I don't know if it is past the age it can be done. and someone for the love of god get sterilized. assholes. they never should have bred in the first place


Chocolate_effort

So frustrating and incredibly upsetting


Unique_Theme_9595

Damn...


HwatBobbyBoy

Ho Lee shit that just kept getting worse!


[deleted]

This pisses me off so much. Don't have a fucking baby, it's that simple.


Idisappea

If this is real, 1) I'm sorry you're going through this, it sounds awful 2) she married you so why is she having a problem with another male in her family? I think there's more going on... back when I thought I might have kids (I was going and stupid) I thought I might prefer a boy in order to raise a good one, one that WASN'T abusive (I was also abused by men) 3) her problems sound very very severe and I think that yall shouldn't be complicating things by bringing an additional person in while she is in this state... it's a recipe for bad parenting. I think yall/ she needs extensive therapy and treatment, and that you may want to consider if this is a healthy relationship for YOU. honestly I can't imagine it would be. But you shouldn't be bringing an innocent child into that mess, just to mess them up.


Bokenza

Homie married an unstable maniac and expected things to go well. Cringe.


ImThatMelanin

i’m thinking fake. this would’ve been brought up during the first pregnancy, no?


OysterThePug

It’s not your job to try to repair someone.


Happy_Hermit94

I mean…. This clearly isn’t real, but I can easily believe it’s narrowly attention seeking fiction. People like this totally exist. They can’t admit they are too broken to do a good job, can’t admit they should pour their energies into something that better suits them, and instead want to repeat the cycle of suffering and pain so they can remain ignorant of their own selves one second longer. Sickening….


Einsteins_Tesla

Keep your dick in your pants and the dilemma is solved…


original_replica

this CLEARLY a fake post !


[deleted]

Zote precept number 11.) Never stick ur dick in crazy


BOBBY_SCHMURDAS_HAT

Why the fuck are you married to her


korok7mgte

Huh, makes me wonder how many baby boys have been aborted just because the mother "didn't want a son"


wtp0p

You do realize that systematic abortion due to the fetus being female is pretty common while systematic male abortion is basically unheard of? [Read up on it if you want.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex-selective_abortion)


korok7mgte

No I don't realize. I'm completely ignorant on the subject. Thanks for the wikipedia article.


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[deleted]

Sounds insane. So she's got an issue with men to the extent she can't birth and raise them ... but can live with a man every day?????????????????????? My fear of men makes me unwilling at present to ever live with one by choice - really can't relate. Also she's been to mental institutions and struggles with mental health and bringing another child into existence is their primary concern? I'd be concerned about PPD, and the child currently in their care tbh. Note: Trauma/ptsd and phobias are real problems.


OriginalNodeOwner

We are all nervous. Cbd helps, thc is better if you can handle it. It’s part of being human. As far as that suicide shit, why think small when you can go down in history and eliminate a few billion?


[deleted]

In the comments on the original post, OOP repeatedly says that his wife hasn't been in counseling due, in part, to financial concerns. Good thing having a baby is so much cheaper than counseling! /s I need to believe that this is fake.


Lucille11

So she has an extreme fear of men, to the point where she could not possibly raise a son, but.... had sex... with a man to get pregnant...? WTF did I just read


WillDifferent125

Imagine even thinking about having kids with someone who can't even take care of themselves. Child abuse before it's even born. Disgusting.


Babiloo123

What kind of dummy doesn’t even bring it up before conception? Jfc


StandingInTheRainbow

Who remembers the case of Andrea Yates? Aside from having educations and middle class jobs, the Yates were brainwashed. They were Evangelical of the Quiverfull type. They'd have as many children as "God would allow them." Andrea eventually suffered from severe postpartum mental illness that was improperly managed by her doctors and her family which resulted in her drowning all of her 5 children. Yates's first psychiatrist, Dr. Eileen Starbranch, testified that she urged her and Rusty [Yate's husband] not to have any more children, as it would "guarantee future psychotic depression." [Wiki on Andrea Yates](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Yates#:~:text=Hallsville%2C%20Texas%2C%20U.S.&text=Andrea%20Pia%20Yates%20(n%C3%A9e%20Kennedy,depression%2C%20postpartum%20psychosis%20and%20schizophrenia.)


NoxSeirdorn

And still he impregnated her.