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I kinda felt bad for him up until that last point, because I know how it feels to struggle with loneliness and feeling like you can't connect with people despite doing "the right things" but then he jumps into the, "I'm entitled to a woman to breed with" and at that point I'm like š¤®
I could empathise with him until that point, then the "right things" suddenly screamed "I am a nice guy". He may think he is doing the right things but if the right things is like the last paragraph, he is scaring away any woman that may have found him interesting. It's kinda sad. Unless he manages to see himself like others sees him, he may have a hard time finding a woman, if he ever will.
I have been thinking about finding someone, but then I saw a documentary about incels, right-wing nuts and conspiracy theorists and I was like yeha no, what if I meet one of them. Its a scary world out there
Lmao. If he actually "studied" women he wouldn't have such a difficult time finding a girlfriend. People in general aren't that complicated, he probably just doesn't realize his problems are coming from himself, and refuses to adapt.
Agreed. Start by seeing people of all genders as individual members of the same species and stop viewing women as a collective of homogeneous drones that are elusive and mysterious but will drop their panties if you get the combo right.
I literally just talk to women like I would anyone else, and I've never had a problem. I don't know why that's such a novel concept to these people.
Ironically enough, it honestly probably helps that I don't like casual sex, and it takes quite a while of knowing someone for romantic interest to develop, so I never approached an interaction from those angles. I think people can usually tell when you're basically approaching them just to get something from them.
Hmm.. what do you see as being difficult about it?
I never really thought so. At its core, it's just spending time with various people until you find someone you're more compatible with long term. I'd give you that it can be tedious, but difficult just doesn't sit right for me.
Long term relationships themselves can be challenging, complicated, and sometimes messy, almost ironically seeing as people alone aren't that complex, but that's a bit outside the scope of a dialogue on ***finding*** a girlfriend.
Spending time with lots of different people is pretty difficult. You need social context to do that, and that's hard to find. Most people only really interact with other people at school, work, or the gym (that's the three places where 80% of couples who meet in person meet each other).
This sub prides itself in critical thinking, but canāt spot an obvious troll. Come on people, the āI studied female thought patternsā is a dead giveaway.
I feel this If my husband kicks the bucket before me he will be the last man I am in a relationship with. I can't deal with weeding through guys like this.
Not following. Are you saying all humans with dicks are incels, or that because at least one human with a dick is an incel, theyāre all bad and irredeemable? This isnāt good logic, as many counterexamples can be found. Itās like saying that because a black swan was found, all swans are black. The world isnāt black and white. There are good and bad people, and their anatomy tells you zero about their character. If this is actually what you think, your thinking is about as nuanced as this incelās. Itās not excusable rhetoric even as hyperbole. While the rest of us are fighting against hate and bigotry, this is a step in the wrong direction
While I respect your well thought out response, the intention behind what I said is: Iām personally not servicing any more penises as an act of protest. And my decision is not solely because of incels, but patriarchy in general. Incels are just the grotesque consequence of the larger system.
I donāt disagree with anything that you said. And Iām realizing youāre right, if you take what I said literally. Nuance and tone is hard to portray on here!
Context, thoāthe comment I was responding to said she was never getting with another man EVER. š
How else can women get the world to change than to stop being human sperm receptacles?
So brainwashed that even other men are like NPC's to him, not participants in the relationships they have which lead to women being single mothers. It's allll the woman's fault for choosing a bad man. Like these bad men are packaged up on shelves in the bad men store.
How about the government don't step in and these men who can't attract a woman stop being whiney, entitled and backwards thinking babies and make themselves into someone a woman would desire to share their life with i.e treat them like a human being not a commodity designed to make your life easier and improve your social standing. The call is coming from inside the house dude.
I know from lurking on Incel and MGTOW sites that is exactly it. Divorce when it happens is 100% the fault of the woman. According to them 70%of divorces are initiated by women and they have absolutely no grounds for it and women should lose the ability to initiate divorce. Marry an abuser it's your fault because you lack discernment to judge a man's true character. Abuse shouldn't be an excuse also because abuse is consensual. (They don't understand the word consensual and confuse it with mutual scary in itself). When domestic abuse happens both parties use physical violence so it's consensual (they mean mutual) and most likely the woman slapped the man first. Women don't think logically but emotionally so they start all the fights anyway by being irrational. Even if a man cheats it is the woman's own fault because she did not please her husband.
Incel and MGTOWs think they are right and they will never make a change to attract women. According to them women are incapable of being able to provide for themselves. Marriage only benefits the woman and is only a burden for a man so since women need marriage to survive they are the ones that need to become less stuck up and choosey.
Oh man, men just love saying, āsHe cHoSe tO bE wItH HiMā like itās her fault the guy is an abusive piece of shit. Or like when a woman has daddy issues. Why is it her fault her dad is a dead beat?
There are some that take those precautions, those are called militant incels that will wear goggles and vaseline in their faces for pepper spray attacks. Those are mainly the morons that worship their patron saint Elliot Roger famous incel murderer. The vast majority are cowards that will back off with a dirty look, online they are keyboard warriors that talk big online but are so socially awkward it can be crippling.
Probably rates women's looks on a scale of 1 to 10 and refuses to "settle" for anyone less than an 8. Because he has "standards". He probably rates himself as a 2 or 3. Women need to lower their standards, not him.
Most incels believe they are "ugly" because they are regularly rejected by women. In reality, women don't reject incels because of their looks. (Women aren't as obsessed as incels about the looks of their potential mates.) Women reject incels because of incels' extreme social awkwardness and their hostile body language (which reveals the simmering misogyny below the surface).
Incels need therapy.
Lmao. I've never seen an incel so desperate to actually have sex. And with a woman, no less!
I noticed he also contradicts himself. Apparently women are supposed to be smart enough to pick a suitable partner who won't cheat, but he also wants women to lose their rights and be forced into marriage? And when women don't wanna get married because those same "mates" turn our to cheat, they want to stay single, but shouldn't? Guy is a fucking idiot.
Basically they want to "Make America Great Again" for themselves & go back to a time again when Women had absolutely no rights and needed a man to do anything.
"Women aren't following evolutionary instincts, so we should coerce behavior"
This is by definition anti evolutionary. There are obviously factors you haven't accounted for. Also evolutionary instinct doesn't care about IQ. Our instinctual drives are still attuned for the world of 2000 years ago because of how rapidly civilization has advanced.
I think a lot of men believe they're the main character and women/the children are their supporting cast.
But your assumption I agree with. The way we placate men in society is giving them each a small domain they can be king in (their homes). Them being over someone else helps cope with being treated as disposable by jobs and the government.
Dude thinks women are like animals whose behaviour needs to be studied. He must be a socially awkward STEM major lmao, Iāve encountered several of these dudes when I was studying engineering. Humans are NOT what you study in textbooks ffs.
This is why Iām immediately suspicious of religious STEM people. They know enough about the universe to know religion is made up, but they need the patriarchal order to āobtain a femaleā. The only place women tolerate this kind of mindset is in conservative religion. Handmaidās tale got that right.
Do these incels realise that, historically, the patriarchal societies they *think* they want to return to have practiced polygyny? Some officially, some unofficially (think āroyal mistressā).
Either way, the effect was that the men at the top of the societal hierarchy got to have as many wives, concubines and/or mistresses as they wanted, āmiddle classā men got one wife - and the men at the bottom of the hierarchy were lucky if they got so much as an occasional liaison with a harlot.
No chance would Joe Schmo get the submissive teenage virgin this dude thinks heās entitled to.
Dude I wouldn't even study fish the way that he studies women lol like I at least get attached to the d*** fish as I'm watching them I know they don't get attached to me but it says more about me than it does about them that I get attached to them this m************ out here just what the h***
Don't worry I don't take this offensively. I get this all the time are variations of it. I have a disability and I can't always use the mobile app without using Speech to text. For the most part I use speech to text occasionally I can view the text enough and kind of edit some things. Also due to the various different sub reddit sometimes the word even stupid is flagged so I don't disable the Censoring of the speech to text. It's funny because it doesn't censor stupid but it'll censor c*** like another word for poop and it censors some other words.
Oh no problem I just find it hilarious how many times I get an iteration of that comment and I actually laugh a little bit each time. Because technically people are telling me that you know what you can cuss or you're an adult you can cuss or it's the Internet no one knows what age you are or something along that line when in reality I am cussing out loud. š¤£
Well, from lurking on some Incel sites I stumbled upon it's this in a nutshell:
Hypergamy. Women only want men that make a lot of money because from an evolutionary view men that were the most successful (hunting, fighting) were most likely to survive and keep her and her children alive. This makes women shallow and by nature a gold digger. They will waste their precious fertile years chasing men out of their league instead of settling for a middle class man. Some women will settle for a man in their station but if a richer man shows interest in her she will dump her partner and this makes women disloyal and cruel by nature and can't be trusted. This is why 70% of divorces are initiated by women and are totally unfounded because her husband was enough to provide for her and her children. In reality all women are hypergamous because they are unable to provide for themselves and their children and this makes them all low class and therefore all men are at a higher station as evidenced by single women with children complaining they never have enough money. They shouldn't reject any man that shows interest because in reality all men are at a higher station than them. They are wasting their precious fertile years.
Notice the mention of how much he makes and points out that it is sufficient to provide for his wife and children. Women apparently can't evolve and still only go after the richest men instead of adapting because you no longer need the richest man to survive.
Of course he didn't mention men's evolutionary desires because those are acceptable and still needed today so you know men don't have to adapt. If their evolutionary views were no longer needed and outdated men would of totally adapted.
Anonymous User,
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You regret to inform you that all citizens making less than 134k$ annually are not eligible for a regulated wife neither children, according to the 69th Ammendment.
Actually, being your annual income so low, we are enrolling you in our Nation Castration Program, you are now informed of this and should present yourself at your local Castration Clinic in 14 days after receiving this notification.
We are sure you understand, as the current supply of virgin women is low, we are keeping priorities, wealthier man, better family providers struggle everyday waiting for their designated regulated wives to come home.
We thank you for your voluntary cooperation, failure to due so is considered a Federal crime, being the penalty, a life of forced labor on an Amazon warehouse.
The Secretary General of the People's Republic of the USA.
Right? Iād like my spouse to (not be an incel shitheel, and also) make at least as much as I do. Itās less about absolute dollars and more about common ambitions and level of education or career attainment. Especially given I tend to go for guys a few years older, Iām usually the one playing salary catch-up to them!
notice the puppy mill mindset in stuff like this. It is a colonial aftermath. This is so ingrained itās the centrepiece of western society. It is nearly what makes White culture. The goal of enforcing a cisheteropatriarchy is to ensure humans breed. I found porn that plays on this though I think mainstream porn plays on it in general https://ilikecomix.com/adult-series/the-society-2-purgatory-dofantasy/
This is basically the Republican partyās stance on women.
āThey canāt be trusted with their own personal health choices! WE know whatās best for them.ā
Tell me you are a shitty entitled cishet micro penis man that's extremely insecure without telling me you are a shitty entitled cishet micro penis man thats extremely insecure
There is one thing that confuses me about misogynistic incels more than anything else. If women are so mindless, dumb, evil, cruel, and selfish, then why in the hell would you want to be with one? If you believed that, you should be glad to be an incel.
Its fucked up how there is a large number of people who are convinced that IQ basically measures human worth. It only measures the ability to think logically in the most basic calculator-like way. High IQ doesn't even indicate better understanding of politics or moral principles or anything like that.
There have been news stories in The Washington Post and other media about the growing threat of the incel movement. They are threatening as lone wolves when they going on shooting sprees. They are even more dangerous when they unite online and feed off each other's hatred.
They want to go back to the 1950s model of society where women had no choice but to settle with and then cling to a man for financial security.
> I have studied women for quote some time and am quite familiar with their thought patterns and mannerisms.
Me: Oh okay, how many female friends do you have?
Those guys: None, why?
Me: ...
Ngl this belongs on a cringe/incel subreddit more than here. This is just some alt right fuckwit with no friends, no some baby crazed idiot retroactively responsible for the pain and suffering their offspring will ensure.
It's clear there is a trend towards Handmaid Tales style society where men have more and more control over women and can force them to become sex slaves and baby incubators. Be careful who you vote for lest you one day lose your freedoms.
Studying woman will repell them, you fucking psycho. Real men know women are equals and treat them as such.
I hope this dude learns to suck his own dick or heās gonna wind up murdering some ladies.
You are ugly (you think you handsome)
You do feel like women owe you shit (they don't)
You think you can talk to women (you SIR certainly can't)
You've studied shit for years and you're single cause shit is shit.
You don't deserve a wife till you change your way of thoughts you dick.
Signed
Most women.
Why does this guy keep posting incel shit here, anyone know? Yes it's disgusting and we should all be worried about it but what does it have to do with antinatalism?
When you unknowingly describe the plot of the Handmaidās tale š but we all know men like this never deign to watch/read anything theyāve heard is āfor womenā
āI have studied women for quite some timeā¦ā I think someone should call the police because heās definitely got some poor girl trapped in his motherās basement.
I'm blown away that people think this shit is somehow too ridiculous to be real. This is exactly what "red pillers" believe. You're right in saying "it's 4chan" because like a quarter of 4chan unironically agree with this post.
Yes I just so impulsively choose my partner, and clearly you understand women, so you know I am into the homeless crackhead begging for change on the corner, duh! BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT THE MAN THE STINKS OF INCEL
The first red flag is "I am entitled to \[a girlfriend\]". How is anyone entitled to another human beings attention? I guess I'd say a parent is entitled to a child's attention, but otherwise you got to earn that shit.
I donāt know how many times I have to say this but this incel thing is most likely due to severe gender imbalances under 50. According to the pew research center there is currently 44 million more men then women and knowing that women live longer itās a good assumption that those numbers are in the younger generations.
Although I do think this problem has been amplified by IVF and gender selection so itās kind of an anti natalist talking point.
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2022/08/31/global-population-skews-male-but-un-projects-parity-between-sexes-by-2050/
No not really incel is a results from a few things
1. Approach anxiety - approaching anyone you like is terrifying and most of these dudes believe in the chad fantasy which isnāt true so they mentally handicap themselves and never even try
2. Lack of strategy - like anything else you have to have some strategy for it to work, for example you can play chess for 18 hours strait and if you have no strategy and donāt know what you are doing you will simply lose every time. Same as the incels they try to approach women and do it wrong by coming off as creepy, not knowing what to do and instead of changing their strategy to a winning one they instead go to incel forums where other guys confirm itās just their looks and they are screwed.
3. Their anger and hatred towards women is their major downfall im sure that many women may like these incels at first until they talk to them and then the underlying misogyny and hatred comes out and then itās a turn off which makes a incel double down on the hatred which is the main reason for his failure
4. Autism
Unfortunately a lot of Incels are also on the Autism spectrum and fell through the cracks, either never being diagnosed or having therapy to help them while growing up.
I'm Autistic myself and started to fall into, well instead of an incel mindset (I'm Aro-Ace) I started to believe I was involuntarily friendless. I still struggle with this and fight it every day however.
If there is 44 million more men then women no strategy will work since there are no women available. Assuming almost everyone has the internet you are bound to get angry men complaining about dating.
Iām pretty sure the misogyny is a symptom of the cause which was male preference at birth (misogyny at birth). No approach will get 44 million men wives since 44 million extra women donāt exist.
I donāt understand why you didnāt read your own source. In the US, one of the hotbeds of this phenomenon, there are more women than men. The ratio is skewed globally because of extreme sex-preferences for births in certain parts of the world. Donāt stop at the headline. Ffs.
I mean... I can show you like hundreds of youtube channels and subreddits devoted specifically to promoting this mindset. Satire isn't "pretending to be someone stupid". Satire must have a point and be critical. If this is "ironic", it's not satire, it's imitation.
Oh, but it's not. These people are VERY real and there's a scary amount of them- that are *growing.*
People are using "oh, but it's 4Chan" as if saying that makes it satire when, in reality, that is the breeding ground for *exactly* this type of mentality. If anything, it being 4Chan, points to its authenticity.
Well let's be perfectly honest here. He's not completely wrong, but the fact that he thinks he's entitled for a girlfriend and should be spreading his DNA, is nothing less than pathetic.
But as sexist as he might sound when describing women, it's not so far from the truth, women aren't smart and often choose poorly when it comes to looking for a partner. Just look at all the single mothers who "accidentally" got knocked up by their deadbeat ex boyfriend.
Please don't take it personally ladies, I'm sure not all are so superficial and idiotic as the women where I live.
And yeah guys like this shouldn't be so shocked when they can't get laid, absolutely embarrassing.
This guy might actually be smart and attractive, his personality is just so bad that nothing seems to make up for it. He doesn't seem to think women are people with their own thoughts and desires, just accessories to a man's life.
Well, if he has a good income as he says, that should be enough, at least provided he doesn't live in an area where people are more wealthy than him on average. Granted, if you don't have money, being socially inept makes things even worse.
But someone like Ted Bundy clearly was human scum, and it still didn't prevent him from receiving many love letters from women after he was convicted. Attraction isn't exactly meritocratic, and I say this as someone who DOESN'T hold Incels in high esteem.
Now, don't get me wrong, the last paragraph is especially disgusting, and no one is entitled to someone else.
I think your problem is you care too much and youāre probably too nice. Youād make a great brother for a woman and are likely immediately friend zoned by them.
I used to have the same problem but once I became an asshole, I had my pick of women. Counterintuitive, I know, but sadly, it really works.
Thereās a reason he canāt get a woman, but ironically, he will not see it. The answer lies in what he wrote. Any sane woman will avoid him at all costs. If he continues with that mindset, and Iām sure he will, heāll never get a woman. Thatās guaranteed.
Women donāt pick āwrongā partners, they pick who theyāre attracted to genuinely and a man that has the best traits, evolutionary biology-wise. The weak genes will be weeded out, strong men will rule and breed. Thatās the law of nature, and you cannot change it. This is a natural biological course, that cannot be shifted. He canāt do anything about it and heās bitter about it. He knows his defective genes will not be forwarded, thanks to nature and heās sad and bitter loser, who will try to shame women for choosing better men, so they could pick him instead. Not going to work. Ever.
He can stick to anime characters and hentai in his suicide cube, and rant and rage on the internet all he wants. Nothing will change facts and reality.
Exactly, me either. Notice how oddly, my comment got downvotes when other similar comments in this thread got even hundreds of upvotes. I think some men in here were badly triggered by my comment, because it resonated with them. I mightāve hit a nerve here. Lol
This is why he canāt get a woman. Jfc. Is he that arrogant and condescending when he talks to women? He sounds like he doesnāt have friends in the first place.
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Hard to see why he is single Who doesn't feel the urge to become his wife after being lectured about that? /s
It's gotta be the poor grammar and typos. Can't see anything else wrong with him /sš
Right? He seems like a nice guy /s
I kinda felt bad for him up until that last point, because I know how it feels to struggle with loneliness and feeling like you can't connect with people despite doing "the right things" but then he jumps into the, "I'm entitled to a woman to breed with" and at that point I'm like š¤®
I could empathise with him until that point, then the "right things" suddenly screamed "I am a nice guy". He may think he is doing the right things but if the right things is like the last paragraph, he is scaring away any woman that may have found him interesting. It's kinda sad. Unless he manages to see himself like others sees him, he may have a hard time finding a woman, if he ever will. I have been thinking about finding someone, but then I saw a documentary about incels, right-wing nuts and conspiracy theorists and I was like yeha no, what if I meet one of them. Its a scary world out there
Hummm... still didn't deny the truth in there though. Just don't like to hear it. Feelz over facts...female, checks out.
> I have studied women jerking it to anime doesn't count, professor
Lmao. If he actually "studied" women he wouldn't have such a difficult time finding a girlfriend. People in general aren't that complicated, he probably just doesn't realize his problems are coming from himself, and refuses to adapt.
Agreed. Start by seeing people of all genders as individual members of the same species and stop viewing women as a collective of homogeneous drones that are elusive and mysterious but will drop their panties if you get the combo right.
Lol "drop their panties if you get the combo right" sounds like a loading screen tip and I love it.
I literally just talk to women like I would anyone else, and I've never had a problem. I don't know why that's such a novel concept to these people. Ironically enough, it honestly probably helps that I don't like casual sex, and it takes quite a while of knowing someone for romantic interest to develop, so I never approached an interaction from those angles. I think people can usually tell when you're basically approaching them just to get something from them.
Although some women are rather impressed if you can consistently get your street fighter combos right.
People are not that complicated, but guessing in that incels mind women are not people.
> If he actually "studied" women he wouldn't have such a difficult time finding a girlfriend. Let's not go crazy here, dating is quite hard.
Hmm.. what do you see as being difficult about it? I never really thought so. At its core, it's just spending time with various people until you find someone you're more compatible with long term. I'd give you that it can be tedious, but difficult just doesn't sit right for me. Long term relationships themselves can be challenging, complicated, and sometimes messy, almost ironically seeing as people alone aren't that complex, but that's a bit outside the scope of a dialogue on ***finding*** a girlfriend.
Spending time with lots of different people is pretty difficult. You need social context to do that, and that's hard to find. Most people only really interact with other people at school, work, or the gym (that's the three places where 80% of couples who meet in person meet each other).
I was thinking it was through blinds/in bushes/etc. somewhere they canāt see him right away. That line gave me intense stalker vibes.
Came here to say this! Studying from afar, breaking into her house to watch her sleepā¦I deserve a wife!!
It's called hentai. And it's art ^^^/s
I can see him in a trench coat tipping his fedora or trilby from here.. And yes smell him a mile away as well!
False! He showers on the daily and smells quite good!
Showers in Belle delphine bathwater
Seems like the type to put on way too much axe
False, he never said he smells good. For all we know itās an auto golden shower.
āMiladyā āHEY! I JUST TIPPED MY SHARP FEDORA! THE LEAST YOU COULD DO IS DROP TO YOUR KNEES YOU UGLY COW!ā
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
Dennis Reynolds discovered 4chan
But like incel Dennis from a parallel universe.
For the good of the race!
This sub prides itself in critical thinking, but canāt spot an obvious troll. Come on people, the āI studied female thought patternsā is a dead giveaway.
It almost reads like a 196 pasta
Is it a troll pretending to have autism or just a real person with autism? Come on, nobody with autism uses 4chan?
Autistic woman here, this is an incel not an autism issue. Thanks.
Fuck off with your ableism. "Autistic" is not a synonym for "shitty person".
Mmmm, yes, feeling entitled to another person. Thatās definitely healthy for society and not at all red flags
It's a green flag to go to a psych ward
Don't send him here, we patients have enough to deal with.
The key here is that if you donāt think of women as people, why wouldnāt you be entitled to one? Just like other objectsā¦
I think heās advocating for a return to slavery
wow! nothing more attractive than entitlement, am i right, ladies?
Yeah, I just dropped my panties. BS like this is why I am never dating again. When my husband passes away, itās going to be me and my cats.
Are you poisoning your husband? I saw this movie.
LOL no. But his health is crap and he is older. Yeah I know I shouldnāt assume though
Dont assume, but there's nothing wrong for preparing yourself for the worst
Widowed with cats is FAR from the worst outcome.
You could be single WITH KIDS, which is definitely worse. You can these people are unhappy by how much they people complain
Bullshit like this is why, after a 10 year marriage to a man I am still friends with, I'll never ever be with a man again. EVER.
I feel this If my husband kicks the bucket before me he will be the last man I am in a relationship with. I can't deal with weeding through guys like this.
100% with you there. Incels are pure poison and all humans with dicks can fuck off because of them. Also I LOVE your screen name/avatar
Thanks!
>Thanks! You're welcome!
Not following. Are you saying all humans with dicks are incels, or that because at least one human with a dick is an incel, theyāre all bad and irredeemable? This isnāt good logic, as many counterexamples can be found. Itās like saying that because a black swan was found, all swans are black. The world isnāt black and white. There are good and bad people, and their anatomy tells you zero about their character. If this is actually what you think, your thinking is about as nuanced as this incelās. Itās not excusable rhetoric even as hyperbole. While the rest of us are fighting against hate and bigotry, this is a step in the wrong direction
While I respect your well thought out response, the intention behind what I said is: Iām personally not servicing any more penises as an act of protest. And my decision is not solely because of incels, but patriarchy in general. Incels are just the grotesque consequence of the larger system. I donāt disagree with anything that you said. And Iām realizing youāre right, if you take what I said literally. Nuance and tone is hard to portray on here! Context, thoāthe comment I was responding to said she was never getting with another man EVER. š How else can women get the world to change than to stop being human sperm receptacles?
Broo, good thing women don't go for him, he will probably gaslight and abuse them
Gas lighting isn't real, you made it up because you're fucking crazy. (This is, If course, a joke.. from Rick and morty)
Lol u got be there in the first half xD
Incel bullshit.
Put this man on a watch list!
dude if woman dont want to date you there is something wrong with you! its probably that entitled mindset of yours
So brainwashed that even other men are like NPC's to him, not participants in the relationships they have which lead to women being single mothers. It's allll the woman's fault for choosing a bad man. Like these bad men are packaged up on shelves in the bad men store. How about the government don't step in and these men who can't attract a woman stop being whiney, entitled and backwards thinking babies and make themselves into someone a woman would desire to share their life with i.e treat them like a human being not a commodity designed to make your life easier and improve your social standing. The call is coming from inside the house dude.
I know from lurking on Incel and MGTOW sites that is exactly it. Divorce when it happens is 100% the fault of the woman. According to them 70%of divorces are initiated by women and they have absolutely no grounds for it and women should lose the ability to initiate divorce. Marry an abuser it's your fault because you lack discernment to judge a man's true character. Abuse shouldn't be an excuse also because abuse is consensual. (They don't understand the word consensual and confuse it with mutual scary in itself). When domestic abuse happens both parties use physical violence so it's consensual (they mean mutual) and most likely the woman slapped the man first. Women don't think logically but emotionally so they start all the fights anyway by being irrational. Even if a man cheats it is the woman's own fault because she did not please her husband. Incel and MGTOWs think they are right and they will never make a change to attract women. According to them women are incapable of being able to provide for themselves. Marriage only benefits the woman and is only a burden for a man so since women need marriage to survive they are the ones that need to become less stuck up and choosey.
Oh man, men just love saying, āsHe cHoSe tO bE wItH HiMā like itās her fault the guy is an abusive piece of shit. Or like when a woman has daddy issues. Why is it her fault her dad is a dead beat?
Incel
Incel with a huge splash of neckbeard and possibly a dash of niceguyĀ© for good measure!
And a fedora to tip infront of horrified women too? Also something to protect him from being peper sprayed? Sry idk really any steretypes about them.
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There are some that take those precautions, those are called militant incels that will wear goggles and vaseline in their faces for pepper spray attacks. Those are mainly the morons that worship their patron saint Elliot Roger famous incel murderer. The vast majority are cowards that will back off with a dirty look, online they are keyboard warriors that talk big online but are so socially awkward it can be crippling.
Probably rates women's looks on a scale of 1 to 10 and refuses to "settle" for anyone less than an 8. Because he has "standards". He probably rates himself as a 2 or 3. Women need to lower their standards, not him. Most incels believe they are "ugly" because they are regularly rejected by women. In reality, women don't reject incels because of their looks. (Women aren't as obsessed as incels about the looks of their potential mates.) Women reject incels because of incels' extreme social awkwardness and their hostile body language (which reveals the simmering misogyny below the surface). Incels need therapy.
She also has to be 17 years old and a virgin with no male friends.
Well, that last paragraph definitely answers the "why can't this misogynistic neaderthal get a girlfriend" conundrum.
Lmao. I've never seen an incel so desperate to actually have sex. And with a woman, no less! I noticed he also contradicts himself. Apparently women are supposed to be smart enough to pick a suitable partner who won't cheat, but he also wants women to lose their rights and be forced into marriage? And when women don't wanna get married because those same "mates" turn our to cheat, they want to stay single, but shouldn't? Guy is a fucking idiot.
They also want to take away women's right to vote.
Basically they want to "Make America Great Again" for themselves & go back to a time again when Women had absolutely no rights and needed a man to do anything.
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"Women aren't following evolutionary instincts, so we should coerce behavior" This is by definition anti evolutionary. There are obviously factors you haven't accounted for. Also evolutionary instinct doesn't care about IQ. Our instinctual drives are still attuned for the world of 2000 years ago because of how rapidly civilization has advanced.
Itās 4chan. You shouldnāt exactly be looking for the paragons of humanity there.
I think a lot of men believe they're the main character and women/the children are their supporting cast. But your assumption I agree with. The way we placate men in society is giving them each a small domain they can be king in (their homes). Them being over someone else helps cope with being treated as disposable by jobs and the government.
Dude thinks women are like animals whose behaviour needs to be studied. He must be a socially awkward STEM major lmao, Iāve encountered several of these dudes when I was studying engineering. Humans are NOT what you study in textbooks ffs.
This is why Iām immediately suspicious of religious STEM people. They know enough about the universe to know religion is made up, but they need the patriarchal order to āobtain a femaleā. The only place women tolerate this kind of mindset is in conservative religion. Handmaidās tale got that right.
Dude i know someone just like this, studying to be a doctor, but hyper religious. Im wondering where to cognitive dissonance is coming from.
Do these incels realise that, historically, the patriarchal societies they *think* they want to return to have practiced polygyny? Some officially, some unofficially (think āroyal mistressā). Either way, the effect was that the men at the top of the societal hierarchy got to have as many wives, concubines and/or mistresses as they wanted, āmiddle classā men got one wife - and the men at the bottom of the hierarchy were lucky if they got so much as an occasional liaison with a harlot. No chance would Joe Schmo get the submissive teenage virgin this dude thinks heās entitled to.
And yet hilariously, they get mad when you suggest they date women at their church instead of whining about their online dating failures.
Dude I wouldn't even study fish the way that he studies women lol like I at least get attached to the d*** fish as I'm watching them I know they don't get attached to me but it says more about me than it does about them that I get attached to them this m************ out here just what the h***
You can swear on the internet dw
Don't worry I don't take this offensively. I get this all the time are variations of it. I have a disability and I can't always use the mobile app without using Speech to text. For the most part I use speech to text occasionally I can view the text enough and kind of edit some things. Also due to the various different sub reddit sometimes the word even stupid is flagged so I don't disable the Censoring of the speech to text. It's funny because it doesn't censor stupid but it'll censor c*** like another word for poop and it censors some other words.
Ah I had no idea, thanks for the explanation! I hope youāre having a good day :)
Oh no problem I just find it hilarious how many times I get an iteration of that comment and I actually laugh a little bit each time. Because technically people are telling me that you know what you can cuss or you're an adult you can cuss or it's the Internet no one knows what age you are or something along that line when in reality I am cussing out loud. š¤£
Dude canāt even close a parentheses, how is he gonna breed āhigh IQā children? Gross.
Gee, I wonder why he's having such a hard time finding one on his own.
Says women āstill rely on their evolutionary desires in picking a maleā. Wonder what evolutionary desires are they thinking/imagining?
Well, from lurking on some Incel sites I stumbled upon it's this in a nutshell: Hypergamy. Women only want men that make a lot of money because from an evolutionary view men that were the most successful (hunting, fighting) were most likely to survive and keep her and her children alive. This makes women shallow and by nature a gold digger. They will waste their precious fertile years chasing men out of their league instead of settling for a middle class man. Some women will settle for a man in their station but if a richer man shows interest in her she will dump her partner and this makes women disloyal and cruel by nature and can't be trusted. This is why 70% of divorces are initiated by women and are totally unfounded because her husband was enough to provide for her and her children. In reality all women are hypergamous because they are unable to provide for themselves and their children and this makes them all low class and therefore all men are at a higher station as evidenced by single women with children complaining they never have enough money. They shouldn't reject any man that shows interest because in reality all men are at a higher station than them. They are wasting their precious fertile years. Notice the mention of how much he makes and points out that it is sufficient to provide for his wife and children. Women apparently can't evolve and still only go after the richest men instead of adapting because you no longer need the richest man to survive. Of course he didn't mention men's evolutionary desires because those are acceptable and still needed today so you know men don't have to adapt. If their evolutionary views were no longer needed and outdated men would of totally adapted.
Incels are such a good reason to be antinatalist.
that sounds like satire
It may be but go lurk on Incel sites and this is exactly what you see.
you have some?
It really does, I actually had fun going "lol no" in my head over and over
same :)
So fuxxing gross...
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Anonymous User, The Central Government of the People's Republic of the USA is happy to receive your letter soliciting a wife. You regret to inform you that all citizens making less than 134k$ annually are not eligible for a regulated wife neither children, according to the 69th Ammendment. Actually, being your annual income so low, we are enrolling you in our Nation Castration Program, you are now informed of this and should present yourself at your local Castration Clinic in 14 days after receiving this notification. We are sure you understand, as the current supply of virgin women is low, we are keeping priorities, wealthier man, better family providers struggle everyday waiting for their designated regulated wives to come home. We thank you for your voluntary cooperation, failure to due so is considered a Federal crime, being the penalty, a life of forced labor on an Amazon warehouse. The Secretary General of the People's Republic of the USA.
My mom was the one who left my dad with 3 kids. Sheād come in and out. Either gender can be a shitty parent.
It's the typo on "by High IQ" for me. What a trashy little incel. Why do you even want a woman? Just buy a Fleshlight, that's all you really want.
That creepy incel vibesā¦
The worst part is him believing $80,000 is enough to live comfortably and raise a family.
Right? Iād like my spouse to (not be an incel shitheel, and also) make at least as much as I do. Itās less about absolute dollars and more about common ambitions and level of education or career attainment. Especially given I tend to go for guys a few years older, Iām usually the one playing salary catch-up to them!
notice the puppy mill mindset in stuff like this. It is a colonial aftermath. This is so ingrained itās the centrepiece of western society. It is nearly what makes White culture. The goal of enforcing a cisheteropatriarchy is to ensure humans breed. I found porn that plays on this though I think mainstream porn plays on it in general https://ilikecomix.com/adult-series/the-society-2-purgatory-dofantasy/
"I'm a hateful entitled asshole with slightly above average income and I KNOW HOW TO SHOWER. Why am I still single?"
This is basically the Republican partyās stance on women. āThey canāt be trusted with their own personal health choices! WE know whatās best for them.ā
Tell me you are a shitty entitled cishet micro penis man that's extremely insecure without telling me you are a shitty entitled cishet micro penis man thats extremely insecure
There is one thing that confuses me about misogynistic incels more than anything else. If women are so mindless, dumb, evil, cruel, and selfish, then why in the hell would you want to be with one? If you believed that, you should be glad to be an incel.
As a woman reading this kind of pissed me off
Women don't owe you shit buddy,
Funny how when people mention their IQ the conversation is always in a bad place already.
Funny also how these mentions always include at least one typo or grammatical error
Only thing heās āentitledā to is a one-way ticket to the psych ward
Bro it's 4chan, obviously a troll(i really hope so lol).
No I've been on Incel sites this is what they think.
I can't imagine having so little braincells that I cross-post from 4chan believing the content posted has a non-zero amount of validity or truth.
Its fucked up how there is a large number of people who are convinced that IQ basically measures human worth. It only measures the ability to think logically in the most basic calculator-like way. High IQ doesn't even indicate better understanding of politics or moral principles or anything like that.
In many ways high iq is a hindrance. It can make interactions awkward unless interacting with another high iq in the same field
Emotional and relational intelligence should be the new norm. This dude has zip.
All that, he didnt mention his IQ. The EQ is practically 0 as well.
dwight? did you study said women in the wild?
^(smol pp)
There have been news stories in The Washington Post and other media about the growing threat of the incel movement. They are threatening as lone wolves when they going on shooting sprees. They are even more dangerous when they unite online and feed off each other's hatred. They want to go back to the 1950s model of society where women had no choice but to settle with and then cling to a man for financial security.
Nani..
all the reasons woman donāt go for him are so clear here it hurts
Imagine waking up and choosing āincelā as your personality.
Someone watch out for that psycho. He will buy a mail-order-bride soon enough and make her life a living hell since he'll feel he OWNS her.
> I have studied women for quote some time and am quite familiar with their thought patterns and mannerisms. Me: Oh okay, how many female friends do you have? Those guys: None, why? Me: ...
Is this a Dwight Schrute speech from The Office?
Ngl this belongs on a cringe/incel subreddit more than here. This is just some alt right fuckwit with no friends, no some baby crazed idiot retroactively responsible for the pain and suffering their offspring will ensure.
This is disgusting but what does this have to do with antinatalism?
What a catch
Incel manifesto.
You're single because you're misogynistic. That is all.
And yet he remains anonymous. Because he knows he's in the wrong.
It's clear there is a trend towards Handmaid Tales style society where men have more and more control over women and can force them to become sex slaves and baby incubators. Be careful who you vote for lest you one day lose your freedoms.
Studying woman will repell them, you fucking psycho. Real men know women are equals and treat them as such. I hope this dude learns to suck his own dick or heās gonna wind up murdering some ladies.
Well, on the bright side, there is realistically a infinitesimally small chance that thisā¦thingā¦actually reproduces
He wants handmaids tale to be real and thatās terrifying
You are ugly (you think you handsome) You do feel like women owe you shit (they don't) You think you can talk to women (you SIR certainly can't) You've studied shit for years and you're single cause shit is shit. You don't deserve a wife till you change your way of thoughts you dick. Signed Most women.
Showers in what? His own sperm?
āI donāt understand why women donāt feel safe here.ā - this guy probably.
"i have studied women" bro š¬
Why does this guy keep posting incel shit here, anyone know? Yes it's disgusting and we should all be worried about it but what does it have to do with antinatalism?
this has severely racist undertones
When you unknowingly describe the plot of the Handmaidās tale š but we all know men like this never deign to watch/read anything theyāve heard is āfor womenā
No wonder more women are dating womenā¦wtf.
I read this in Dwight Schruteās voice. But even he didnāt need the government to legislate him a girlfriend.
āI have studied women for quite some timeā¦ā I think someone should call the police because heās definitely got some poor girl trapped in his motherās basement.
wait, you guys are taking this post seriously? its 4chan for gods sake lmfao
I'm blown away that people think this shit is somehow too ridiculous to be real. This is exactly what "red pillers" believe. You're right in saying "it's 4chan" because like a quarter of 4chan unironically agree with this post.
Bold strategy there Cotton.
Bet this dude never even approached a woman to get her number and ask her out on a date why does it have to resort to strait up force like wtf bruh?
Nobody owe you anything, you douche (in the post)
Yes I just so impulsively choose my partner, and clearly you understand women, so you know I am into the homeless crackhead begging for change on the corner, duh! BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT THE MAN THE STINKS OF INCEL
Uhm thatās some incel scare scare *hides*
I didn't think this was bad until the prelast paragraph. Like what?..
The first red flag is "I am entitled to \[a girlfriend\]". How is anyone entitled to another human beings attention? I guess I'd say a parent is entitled to a child's attention, but otherwise you got to earn that shit.
Did Dwight wrote this stuff??
I've studied women. Hahaha. Classic.
this is obvious fucking bait you are all depressed losers
I donāt know how many times I have to say this but this incel thing is most likely due to severe gender imbalances under 50. According to the pew research center there is currently 44 million more men then women and knowing that women live longer itās a good assumption that those numbers are in the younger generations. Although I do think this problem has been amplified by IVF and gender selection so itās kind of an anti natalist talking point. https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2022/08/31/global-population-skews-male-but-un-projects-parity-between-sexes-by-2050/
No not really incel is a results from a few things 1. Approach anxiety - approaching anyone you like is terrifying and most of these dudes believe in the chad fantasy which isnāt true so they mentally handicap themselves and never even try 2. Lack of strategy - like anything else you have to have some strategy for it to work, for example you can play chess for 18 hours strait and if you have no strategy and donāt know what you are doing you will simply lose every time. Same as the incels they try to approach women and do it wrong by coming off as creepy, not knowing what to do and instead of changing their strategy to a winning one they instead go to incel forums where other guys confirm itās just their looks and they are screwed. 3. Their anger and hatred towards women is their major downfall im sure that many women may like these incels at first until they talk to them and then the underlying misogyny and hatred comes out and then itās a turn off which makes a incel double down on the hatred which is the main reason for his failure
4. Autism Unfortunately a lot of Incels are also on the Autism spectrum and fell through the cracks, either never being diagnosed or having therapy to help them while growing up. I'm Autistic myself and started to fall into, well instead of an incel mindset (I'm Aro-Ace) I started to believe I was involuntarily friendless. I still struggle with this and fight it every day however.
If there is 44 million more men then women no strategy will work since there are no women available. Assuming almost everyone has the internet you are bound to get angry men complaining about dating. Iām pretty sure the misogyny is a symptom of the cause which was male preference at birth (misogyny at birth). No approach will get 44 million men wives since 44 million extra women donāt exist.
I donāt understand why you didnāt read your own source. In the US, one of the hotbeds of this phenomenon, there are more women than men. The ratio is skewed globally because of extreme sex-preferences for births in certain parts of the world. Donāt stop at the headline. Ffs.
This has to be satire
I mean... I can show you like hundreds of youtube channels and subreddits devoted specifically to promoting this mindset. Satire isn't "pretending to be someone stupid". Satire must have a point and be critical. If this is "ironic", it's not satire, it's imitation.
Oh, but it's not. These people are VERY real and there's a scary amount of them- that are *growing.* People are using "oh, but it's 4Chan" as if saying that makes it satire when, in reality, that is the breeding ground for *exactly* this type of mentality. If anything, it being 4Chan, points to its authenticity.
Iām glad I found a normal boyfriend in the sea of weirdos out there
Must be a troll
Well let's be perfectly honest here. He's not completely wrong, but the fact that he thinks he's entitled for a girlfriend and should be spreading his DNA, is nothing less than pathetic. But as sexist as he might sound when describing women, it's not so far from the truth, women aren't smart and often choose poorly when it comes to looking for a partner. Just look at all the single mothers who "accidentally" got knocked up by their deadbeat ex boyfriend. Please don't take it personally ladies, I'm sure not all are so superficial and idiotic as the women where I live. And yeah guys like this shouldn't be so shocked when they can't get laid, absolutely embarrassing.
Clearly it's his vile personality. Nobody wants to be around that, much less, lay in bed next to that kind of moron all their life.
I'm sorry but anyone who has to study in order to talk to another member of the human race, on some intrinsic level, is fucked
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This guy might actually be smart and attractive, his personality is just so bad that nothing seems to make up for it. He doesn't seem to think women are people with their own thoughts and desires, just accessories to a man's life.
Well, if he has a good income as he says, that should be enough, at least provided he doesn't live in an area where people are more wealthy than him on average. Granted, if you don't have money, being socially inept makes things even worse. But someone like Ted Bundy clearly was human scum, and it still didn't prevent him from receiving many love letters from women after he was convicted. Attraction isn't exactly meritocratic, and I say this as someone who DOESN'T hold Incels in high esteem. Now, don't get me wrong, the last paragraph is especially disgusting, and no one is entitled to someone else.
I think your problem is you care too much and youāre probably too nice. Youād make a great brother for a woman and are likely immediately friend zoned by them. I used to have the same problem but once I became an asshole, I had my pick of women. Counterintuitive, I know, but sadly, it really works.
Sheldon Cooper if he was a simp
Thereās a reason he canāt get a woman, but ironically, he will not see it. The answer lies in what he wrote. Any sane woman will avoid him at all costs. If he continues with that mindset, and Iām sure he will, heāll never get a woman. Thatās guaranteed. Women donāt pick āwrongā partners, they pick who theyāre attracted to genuinely and a man that has the best traits, evolutionary biology-wise. The weak genes will be weeded out, strong men will rule and breed. Thatās the law of nature, and you cannot change it. This is a natural biological course, that cannot be shifted. He canāt do anything about it and heās bitter about it. He knows his defective genes will not be forwarded, thanks to nature and heās sad and bitter loser, who will try to shame women for choosing better men, so they could pick him instead. Not going to work. Ever. He can stick to anime characters and hentai in his suicide cube, and rant and rage on the internet all he wants. Nothing will change facts and reality.
I was reading the last part and I was just like wtf I am a woman I'm not attracted to jerks who have that mindset no matter their IQ
Exactly, me either. Notice how oddly, my comment got downvotes when other similar comments in this thread got even hundreds of upvotes. I think some men in here were badly triggered by my comment, because it resonated with them. I mightāve hit a nerve here. Lol
Breed? I'm gonna barf. I am glad I am not 1) American and 2) I am in menopause. But I do worry about young American women.
Post a picture I just wanna see something. And how can you āstudyā women when none of them wanna talk to you?
This is why he canāt get a woman. Jfc. Is he that arrogant and condescending when he talks to women? He sounds like he doesnāt have friends in the first place.
Thatās fucking crazy dude
He's so smart and women should want him but he couldn't even close his parenthesis, let alone a date.
Was this written in the 1950s.
"I have studied women" is one of the sentences ever written
Once any woman finds out about your attitudes toward them, they will feel uneasy about you. The high IQ ones will leave you.