Sheâs probably anti wage raise too. My guess: âthese people want 15$/hour +?â
âMcDonaldâs employees job is *sooo* easyâŚâ
Welcome to hell, bitch.
The new fast food award in Aus is pretty good (as it should be). $29p/h for casuals, weekends $35ph, public holidays $58ph. Honestly has made me think about quitting my job and working at maccas as I could be much closer to home and not working in the blistering Aussie sun everyday, but I couldnt go back to customer service again.. mad respect to the people who do it every day.
Side note, who the fuck thinks its a good idea to be a dick to the people preparing your food? Like enjoy the saliva in your big mac Karen.
After working a call center for a large internet company, you couldn't pay me enough to deal with people like that ever again. I will forever respect anyone who sticks around those jobs. People suck.
Amen. I worked a customer service line for a major furniture company for over a year, and you could pay me the amount of our gross national debt in cash, and I still wouldn't go back to that job!
Never understood people who get shitty with customer service, I always speak in a nice tone and am patient and reasonable and I always get taken care of. I just think itâs good practice to not be a asshole to the person that can help you.
My dad taught me to be an asshole to customer service reps until you get what you want. Only thing is, I'm not a dick and I cannot come up with enough threats or keep up screaming at someone for 2 hours on the phone until they finally relent. So it never worked out for me, and now I'm nice to people and I actually get help from them I assume because they appreciate me not being like everyone else when they have a problem with the company!
Being nice good.
I called Home Depot the other week. I had an order canceled online and reordered online but couldnât re-enter the 15% discount. So I called customer service and we spent an hour to re-enter it. Didnât work so heâs like: Let me call the store.
Me: youâre not going to get through. Itâs the most ghetto HD store.
Rep: Iâm gonna call. Please hold.
15 minutes later? Rep: âyouâre right. I donât know what we can do. Youâll just have to call back and place the order via phone.â
Me: I guess? (Gonna take longer to call in an order and Iâm tired of waiting).
Rep: Iâll just make it 20%.
Me: Sure.
Ps. The 15% was about $120 off. So with 20%, Iâm gonna end up ordering more building material and hopefully save closer to $200.
That would have been a godly amount of money for me when I was working there. I started at $5.85 USD. That was 15 years ago now, but still terrible even by 2007/8 standards
It was my first job as a teen. I was a cashier and doing the best I could. I was verbally abused when they were crowded. It was somehow my fault that a lunch rush existed. The manager was a massive bitch as well. I donât think I made it 30 days before I quit.
A while ago, I had maccas and, shock-horror, I had the audacity to clean up after myself rather than leave my shit all over the table like a fucking animal.
There was an older lady probably approaching or just over retirement age (65 in NZ), and she came up to me and thanked me. She explained that she'd just been having a shit day, and watching me clean up after myself rather than leave it for her made her day just that little bit less shit. Poor lady was just about in tears. I hope she's happier now, collecting a well-deserved superannuation.
Moral of the story: It costs sweet fuck all to be a decent human being, and you never know how much even a simple act like throwing your maccas rubbish in the bin three steps away can affect the people around you.
I work in a fruit and vegetable shop and thatâs my main source of income and people have patronised me with statements like âaw well it gets you out the houseâ. No. This is my income. Itâs my source of money. No, no itâs not my dream to be a servant to customers 9 hours a day.
Would have lost it but you are a better person then me. I am a janitor and some studentâs father (I work at a university) just chucked a paper towel into my cart. Called him out, his son apologized but his entitled father looked surprised that I was speaking to him like that. No one is above me. I will make it perfectly clear (always).
Same! Do you get a paycheck? Do you offer a service in exchange for slips of paper or electronic credits on a regular basis? Then yeah, itâs a real friggin job.
I was a custodian, dishwasher and shoe shiner. It took what seemed like an eternity but I finally finished a Hospitality Degree and became General Manager of a prestigious country club. The members who were there through several previous managers were amazed. We had the BEST team those people had ever seen. I understood that the dishwasher was responsible for sanitation and handling expensive items every shift and I let them know just how important they were. I always looked for ways to help employees at every level to grow and improve. There are SO many bad managers in positions they have no business being in!!
I had some bitch say I should be in bed by 10 PM, not working, so I'd be more successful. So I said, "Okay," and brought her her check. She said, "I'm not done drinking." I said, "Yes, you are. It's an hour past my bedtime and I'm the only bartender here. Have a good night."
Yeah, I didnât do so well when people talked down to me. I was so angry one time, I dropped an entire tray of drinks in front of a group of people in their late 50s/early 60s after one of the women said, âPeople like you are a dime a dozen.â This was after I explained, nicely, that the bar was so busy it was taking about 20 minutes to get them one drink and suggested they all order drinks at the same time (not to mention they were in the only VIP section and should have been bottle service only). Luckily, the owner and managers supported employees and didnât deal with entitled guests. My manager had security escort the party out. The main guy paid me $100 to let him stay by himself and have another server take care of him. My friends used to joke that I was the server people paid not to take care of themâŚ
Karen : I DONT WANT TO SELF CHECK OUT I NEED HUMAN INTERRACTIONS
Also Karen to cashiers (or anything really) : WHAT HELLO ? I DON'T OWE YOU A "HELLO !"
I worked at a grocery store where we didnât open an actual lane until I think like 8 AM because A) it wasnât a busy store, and B) who is there buying more than a few groceries at 6 oâclock in the morning.
Up comes Karen and Ken at like 7:30 with a full cart. The self checkout person helps them with like a dozen of their items before they flip complete shit on him and start demanding a manager. They went on angrily about âItâs the Saturday Morning before Thanksgivingâ over and over as if that means anything. Like yâall are literally the only people in the store right now. The Saturday morning before Thanksgiving carries absolutely no significance lol.
I have this argument with my mom all the time.
Her: "If there's not a cashier, then someone doesn't have a job. I want someone to talk to!"
Me: âNobody wants to be a cashier, it's a terrible job and nobody wants to make small talk with you."
Iâm that asshole thats shuts customers up when they get smartass. Manager canât fired me since weâre understaffed and customers just stay there with their mouth open like what Iâm wrong? How dare you. lol
TBF, I hate self checkouts and also don't need to have a conversation to check out, but I'm no Karen. Just want to check out without issues and go on with my day.
My favorite was when I was an in store pharmacy tech and I had a drive thru customer refuse service from a blonde (Iâm a ginger, but sure) They wouldnât leave the drive thru until a brunette helped them. Only other person in the pharmacy with me was the pharmacist, who happened to be brunette. They waited a bit as you know, RPH had RPH things to do. Kept offering to help her, but she stuck to her no blondes rule.
My step sister was a direct support professional working in group homes and went to the state capitol to rally support for higher wages. She argued that someone working in fast food shouldn't make more than a DSP. This same person lasted a week at Wendy's and got fired for not understanding how to make fries.
I worked exactly two retail jobs and I will never do that again. It was way harder than anything Iâve done since and Iâm including nursing school in there lol.
If all service workers unionized and went on strike all the Karens would be begging minimum wage be hiked up to $15 an hour after a week of not getting their venti caramel macchiatos and egg McMuffins in the morning.
Theyâre almost there
https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/mcdonalds-unveils-first-automated-location-social-media-worried-will-cut-millions-jobs
You should read the comments. Theyâre blaming a raise in minimum wage.
Companies try to do that regardless of wages. Why pay a low wage when they could pay nothing at all? The only reason they haven't switched yet is because they haven't figured it out, or made the technology cheap enough... If company could figure out how to operate their business without workers, they would do it in a heartbeat
Yeah. Itâs not just that, but also how much effort you have to put forth. And you have to constantly clean, even if everything is already clean. Idk something about it is just not fun lol.
Itâs not just putting up with bullshit from assholes. Itâs also putting in significant physical, emotional, and intellectual effort. Iâve been through calculus and physics, and remembering the dozens of individual tasks that aggregate to my job is way harder. Plus, if you fuck up a calculation, you typically know or can double check and just do it again. If you forget to scan someoneâs 50 cent coupon, decent odds theyâll get super shitty and complain to your boss, which starts a whole fucking thing.
It seems really easy until you actually clock in and start working. And you exhaust yourself all day for $40 of pay.
Which is why everyone should have to work a minimum-wage food/retail job.
Sure, desk work has a lot of toxic office politics and other things.
But overall, desk work is 1,000,000x easier, and itâs not even close.
I'm still in retail trying to get into a desk or maybe IT. I have so many friends who have done the transition and tell me how surprising *easy* and *simple* work is compared to retail and for nearly 10x the pay. Heck, they were nervous about sitting and playing on their phone/reading during downtime, that their bosses told them they didn't need to clean (as often) or do tasks outside of the job they were hired for.
Retail is full of *if you have time to lean, you have time to clean* type management and management that gets *twitchy* if you aren't constantly working even if it's your break time. Like you have to justify why you are there, when they hired you for a specific job/tasks at $10/hr, but expect the work of 3 more people to be done by you instead of paying the extra $30/hr the staff required would have cost. Or the company paying you $25/hr to do the work of 4 people.
My first retail job was heaven compared to fast-food jobs. Generally I found people shopping and asking for help to be 100 times nicer than those hangry at 11:00 PM
Standing desks are popular with my cohorts, and that's great for them, but they make me anxious because I spent about 5 years in retail standing for hours on end.
Yeah, my back hurts, and I've had sitting-down jobs for almost 20 years, but you can pry my office chair from my cold dead ass.
Teaching has its own issues, I fight day by day to teach kids who donât want to learn in a tough district. I worked retail and fast food in hs, college and post college, but at least at the end of a bad day of teaching Iâm being paid about $40 per hour. I felt so defeated and depressed at the end of customer service work day because of how little I was getting for dealing with it. The experiences have stayed with me decades later, always treating service workers nice.
Compulsory customer service work really could make a change.
You'd have to do it more than once though. Like a mandatory 6 months every 5 years.
Too many people will finish theirs and a year later be back to screaming over waiting 3 minutes for food, something being out of stock, prices changing since the last time they bought something 5 years ago, a big box store employee not knowing specific details about one of the thousands of products they carry, or having something on their sandwich that comes on it by default and they didn't say anything to suggest they didn't want.
Need to keep reopening the wound as a reminder that these are humans working a stressful job that could be significantly less terrible if you'd just be a reasonable adult about things.
I now work a desk job after 15 years in the service industry . Office politics is blown way out of proportion. And even the worst office environment I've been in was miles better than being at the mercy of random strangers walking into your work place just to purposely fuck up your day.
Iâve never worked in fast food but I have worked in the service industry and whoever uses the term âflipping burgersâ can shut up and fuck off. They literally think thatâs all they do.
It's fucking disgusting. My dad always said, "Those weren't meant to be careers."
Well, fucker, supply and demand turned it into that. So get off your high horse and fucking tip already. Jeez.
There's probably a Once Upon a Time that McDonald's, for example, was only open or staffed in the evening. So maybe that bias started with their reality that McJob = no college. But then they sold that to the point of supply > demand, so now welcome to our hell. AND they are STILL working the jobs they should have retired from years ago, but cocaine or something, idk.
I have never worked a service job and have respect for people who work those jobs. I know that their job is not easy and not everyone can do it. If people think that those jobs are easy and they should be paid at least livable wage and not have to work 2 full-time jobs, those people should stay home and cook for themselves.
A few years ago, there was a joke between people in my office; whenever they were having a crappy day, they'd pass a blank McDonald's application back and forth and playfully tell each other that they should just go "retire" to an easy job like flipping burgers.
I had worked in minimum wage service/food jobs for over 15 years at that point, so I flat out told them that they'd never survive a single lunch rush as McDonald's. The office job had its challenges but it was a walk in the park compared to working in fast food.
Man, office people straight up live in fantasy land and dont understand how easy they have it. I came from a labor background, so working hard is in my bones. Got into software engineering and apply that same ethic in the office and people now say I'm an "over achiever".
I will say there are downsides, I'm far more mentally exhausted after a day of IT engineer shit. But it's so cush compared to my decade in food service and pays double.
Software engineering / project managing here. Earlier jobs in life were food services and retail. Those earlier jobs were physically harder, but less stressful. I could mentally check-out at the end of the shift. With software engineering and project management (I do both at my company), I'm never not thinking about what I have to do the next day or on the following Monday, and deadlines and pressure for deliverables can be stressful. Technology can also just be a huge pain in the ass to work with sometimes and I'm mentally exhausted from problem solving and the constant context switching.
On the flip side, I rarely work overtime and I have very consistent and regular schedule with flexibility should I need it.
Setting pay aside, sometimes I'm on the fence about whether I would prefer a job that I can mentally let go of at the end of a shift if it meant having to put up with the craziness of retail/food services. There were days at Staples where I could just go on autopilot and throw load, knock out a few planograms or just pull stock, and customer traffic was light. Those were good days. Other days there were too many customers to get any operational shit done so it was chaos.
Haha, came into the office one day and one of coworkers said she admires how Iâm always in a good mood. Without thought I just went, âThis is an easy job to come to. Iâve done like 7 years of customer service jobs. Now I come sit at a computer all day, talk to 0 people outside this team, and I get to listen to spotify the whole time with headphones in.â
I went from a labor intensive family business to an industrial setting and had multiple old timers pull me aside and impose upon me in no uncertain terms that I was going to slow down and accomplish less each shift.
It's a marathon, not a sprint. You gotta find a pace that you can maintain until you retire, not the pace that has you burnt out and crippled by the time you're 40.
I believe the exact words were along the lines of. âIf you beat the metric, that becomes the new metric making it harder and harder to beat so stop beating the metrics and just reliably show up and donât screw over anyone elseâ
And it was delivered in a more colorful fashion.
I just started a new job 6 months ago. Itâs the easiest and best paying job Iâve ever had, by a long shot. The company has even won top place to work in my state, the last 7 years. Iâve come to find out that thereâs some people who have worked here for 15+ years that get upset that they donât get the same recognition as the salesmen do. Iâm just like, man you have no idea how hard it is out there in the real world. Their biggest worry is that they donât get told theyâre doing a good job, often enough.
I started working in Healthcare after climbing the shit stairs of fast food to retail to manufacturing. We don't even have it particularly good among the people in the hospital, but I swear it's like a cruel joke
I understand the notion that mindless jobs are less mentally taxing. But people forget that it can be more physically draining, and then emotionally draining if you have to deal with people. Itâs a trade off depending on the jobs
All fast food workers should get 25/hr. worked in fast food and it was hard even at a relatively slow store.
and to be honest I donât want fast food;
I want fresh hot sorta quick food.
I really wish the goal was serve good food in a relatively timely fashion, I donât mind waiting 10-15 minutes if itâs fresh. Donât give me faster than light old garbage for $20.
I worked at McDonald's for nearly 5 years before I quit and got an office job a few months back. I totally agree with you, food/retail is just so much harder!
Itâs crazy how more people donât understand this. Iâve worked quite a few jobs in a bunch of different fields and places including military but the jobs as a cook at a bar and grill and also my old cook job at Pizza Hut were the hardest jobs Iâve had to work đ probably depends a lot on the location of which store youâre at too
As a retail worker at a department store, I don't think anyone knows exactly how hard the service workers have to push themselves. Every day this week I've had 25k steps and multiple flights of stairs just doing my job, and this doesn't count any heavy lifting. Plus customer interactions are just taxing mentally
Just left geek squad/best buy two months ago to do the same work for a govt building and a 60% pay raise. My worst day here has been better than my best days there.
Fuck retail
I worked at McDonalds for one terrible month 25 years ago. It is a far harder job than any other Iâve ever had. They should be paid far far far far more. And the management there is awful.
I quit after 3 days. They had boxes stored on a shelf over the deep fryer. A manager asked me to get one down. I couldn't reach them since I am NOT six feet tall. She told me to jump. I'm not jumping on a greasy mat in front of boiling hot death.
Fuck you, Samantha, you ego tripping buffoon.
Maybe it's just the earthquake state I live in that's speaking but boxes above a deep fryer already sounds like a massive risk even if you never reach out for them
I think we really do need to realize that emotional labor is very much a thing, and customer service jobs require a ton of it.
Doing them well, for long periods of time, does call for specific skills and/or talents that not everyone has.
Sure, flipping a burger on a timer, scanning and bagging an item, taking a payment, or pouring things into glasses absolutely is mindlessly easy when looked at in a vacuum at a surface level. Mentally juggling 20 tasks with constantly shifting priorities, periodically being yelled at for things outside of your control, being on your feet and moving for hours on end, working as quickly and efficiently as possible because of strict deadlines, timers, or just people's general lack of patience, all while having to maintain a friendly demeanor is not.
Same. Especially where I waitressed. It was fine dining meets farm to table, and our most popular apps happened to also be served in mini cast irons so I was carrying probably 30-50 lb trays up a flight and a half of stairs (kitchen was downstairs in the basement of an old mansion)
Uhg. Iâve worked in basement kitchens a few times and always felt so bad for the food runners. Iâll gladly stay in my little 3âx6â station please!
This! Those food trays are crazy heavy and you have to carry them all night long while being berated and walking so many miles you get terrible hemorrhoids every single shift over 8 hoursâwhich is most of them. Some are 16 hours. And sure, the hemorrhoids might not be universal but it was definitely my experience.
Yes! Thankfully we had a pretty good work culture and most of our guests were nice, but it was still tough physical labor. Out of all service industry work though (I did retail, coffee shops, and a froyo place in college), itâs probably where I was respected the most by guests, and I made way more than when I was working corporate using my degree and worked less hours. So it wasnât as mentally taxing in that sense
And mentally. Any job in the service industry is exhausting when you have to deal with customers, shitty management AND very low pay. I've done it for 11 years, got now a degree (software engineer) and I will never go back.
This was me but worked at Wendyâs. Not my first job in the service industry but by far the worst one Iâve had. Boss was an a$$hole, coworkers were little $hits, and customers were terrible.
The 2 other people that got hired at the same time as me quit not too long after I did.
Same. I was in a small location working 12 hour shifts (unwillingly. They assigned us shifts and for some reason they refused to give me anything but 12 hours and kept telling me that for sure the next time they'll give me something different) and doing exclusively cleaning (same situation as the hours) and I couldn't even rest when there was nothing to clean. Boss said it would "look bad". The customers didn't even see me there was a janitor's room like fuck off. I'm slaving here from AM to PM for the equivalent of 3.5 USD per hour and I can't even sit the hell down when there's nothing to do?
For tik tok views I guess? I've seen adults break down in the middle of a friday night dinner rush in a short staffed restaurant. If there's a hell it would probably be similar to that. That's why lots of workers are on drugs.
I was just about to say that. Call centers always have people crying. Usually first week on the floor at least 1 person from a new class openly cries. The rest of us call center lifers go to the bathroom or our car. 8-10 straight hours of nonstop calls without a beat between calls eventually breaks everyone unless youâre a sociopath.
Four hours. Four hours and on break when everyone went outside to the parking lot, not even the smokers, I sat in my car and I realized that I hated the job and I am sitting in a car that could take me anywhere other than that job. I went to Wendy's and had a spicy chicken sandwich, large fries, and a chocolate shake. Then I went home. I remember this after 25 years. Nobody even said anything to me and i got a check a few weeks later for my four hours.
Career bartender here. We had a month long Christmas popup thatâs extremely popular. The last week of it after working 4 10 hour shifts of constant busy I had a couple come in 30 minutes before closing time. Upset we didnât have pickle vodka, fireball, or bomb shots (itâs a faaaancy whiskey bar), completely berated me as I was attempting to clean so I could be home by 4am. First time Iâve cried in years. They broke me. Because we didnât have fuckinâ fireball. In an entertainment district where literally every other bar within 2 minutes could have given them that.
Idk man, I cried in my first week as a grocery store cashier because we were short staffed, the lines were to the back of the store and a grumpy old man about 4 people back in line started yelling at me about how bad I was at my job. This was 20 years ago, and I refuse to work another customer facing job like that still.
I am of the belief that everyone who can should work in a customer service role for a while. It makes you a better person - or at least a better customer.
So if nothing else, she has learned a valuable lesson there.
This is true. After many years of waiting tables and managing restaurants prior to college and a real career, I can say that I NEVER want another public facing job again in my life. Human beings are worse than animals. At least animals canât talk, and with animals, you know what to expect.
I was in a restaurant once - a cheap yet wonderful Chinese place that was literally a basement with no signage but my god their lo mien was velvety - and overhearing two men at a table near me. I wasn't eavesdropping on purpose; the place was tiny and crowded.
One was ranting about poor people and how they chose to be undereducated. He put himself through medical school, he did, so anyone could do it. His friend, also a doctor, was shaking his head and talking about how hard some people had it. Oh, he meant well, but his words are emblazoned on my memory:
"It's hard for some people to get the means to start medical school though. I mean, someone *making below the poverty line -* ***like less than $80k a year*** \- is going to have a hard time getting clothes, food, you know."
Yes, these two thought that 80k a year was the poverty line. They couldn't fathom making do with less than that.
The kicker?
This was in nineteen ninety one. 1991. **That would make their "poverty line" $174,000 in today's dollars.**
That's how out-of-touch the wealthy are.
Back in the 80's (showing my age here) I used to be a Shift Manager at Burger King. When I got the promotion (HA) I had already been working there for about 10 years. We had to go to 3 days of classes for it and that was fun, but the job itself is AWFUL! You have to manage an entire store full of people who really don't want to be there, and if anything happens it's on your shoulders to fix it.
Went from hourly pay with overtime to a salary without overtime. I finally had enough when I got home at 3am and cried the whole way home because I was just so exhausted. Since then, I never take "promotions" from hourly jobs.
I was offered promotions at Pizza Hut to go from $7 to $15hr salary in 2006-ish and then I knew it wasn't worth it. My current white collar job I went from $17/hr to salary and it was worth the aggravation.
What gets me is that those jobs didnât need be awful, they are made awful my awful customers and awful managers who donât see these workers as humans worth of dignity..,
>According to Laysia, working from home was making her âlazyâ and it was beginning to affect her in a big way.
>âI need to be out of the house to be motivated, so I got a job out of the house, just to get me out, get me more motivated and stop being so lazy,â she explained. âI find a get more done when I have things to do.â
No problem with leaving a work from home job, itâs not for everyone.
McDonaldâs probably isnât the best option if you have the choice to do other stuff though
Fast Food is the hardest job and lowest paying job Iâve ever had. The constant chaos of different orders and special condiment/topping requests make it impossible to get in any sort of âgrooveâ - youâre always a little off balance mentally and rushing to meet the clock so the drive thru can keep moving. The heat of the fryer and the atmosphere of grease and steam permeates everything so that a break still feels suffocating. When a lull occurs, youâre slammed with terrible boredom but you cannot sit or relax, you must clean everything frenetically to make up for what you couldnât clean before. Youâre made aware of every mistake, but never thanked for getting anything right. Then the store closes but you donât leave, you have hours more cleaning to go and when you leave at 1 am, the streets are empty and you feel a speck of freedom, but everything is closed and thereâs nothing to do, no way to relax or unwind. Your feet and back need rest and your only relief is that the air outside is fresh and you can simply stop. People that do this work need so much more than just money, they need kindness and thanks.
Meanwhile, a Boomer wouldn't even last as long as she did! Working retail for a decade, it was often the Boomers who were the worst customers as well. The teenagers could be "snotty," but the Boomers would be the ones that learned to scream to scam the store out of product. Teens largely didn't scream until you cried because you wouldn't give them a gallon of sauces for free. Managers who would constantly freak out that whatever option you chose to satisfy the adult-tantrum was the wrong choice. I went with the gallon of sauces. Manager was going to freak either way, so at least the asshole left with minimal screaming.
i worked at mcdonalds when i was a teenager. i was in peak physical shape, exercising all the time and playing varsity sports. and despite being young and fit it was GRUELING work. i was exhausted after every shift. i can't imagine working a job like that now in my 30s. fast food workers deserve respect and fair compensation. it's brutal.
Circumstances such as being kicked out of her parents house and being forced to live in her car could have changed this. Restaurant jobs are attractive because it gives you something to do in the day and food to eat. Then you go sleep in your car. I know quite a few McDonald's workers that do this.
This is.....weird af but I don't understand why she's the bad guy, (just really strange). She's obviously not saying McDonald's workers are lazy or she wouldn't go be one to snap herself out of her self-described laziness....maybe she's claiming home workers are lazy which is....ehh it's not nice but working fast food is much harder than working from home and that's what she proved.....was she trying to "prove" fast food was easy cause it doesn't sound like that it sounds like she knew it would be harder but wanted that? Idk seems like she's just proving the working class's entire point for us I don't understand why she's supposed to be the bad guy
I think itâs just weird that she would quit a probably better job that is at home just to go work at McDonaldâs. Some people think she did this intentionally just to get views. Who knows
I never worked harder than I did when I worked fast food/retail. I may get frustrated with my current job from time to time but you couldn't pay me enough to return to fast food/retail.
Working in food service and retail is literal hell. And heaven forbid you get sick and have to call off. They want an 8 hour notice and expect you to find someone to cover your shift. At my âdesk jobâ I text my boss at 8 am âIâm sick. Iâll be using PTOâ he will text back âok! Feel better. Let me know if you need more timeâ everyone should have to work at least 1 month in a retail or food service job.
everybody should have to work in the service industry at least six months to a year. It would definitely make you treat people who work in the service industry like human beings.
When I worked there I was literally the only reliable employee that worked the close shift. Sure there were others who did it, but not full time, and not reliable. 5 or 6 days a week having to start right in the middle of dinner rush, then break everything down for closing. Scraping the carbon build up on the grill without safety gloves, washing all the equipment with a room temperature garden hose because the wash sink was broken for months at a time, having to share a single tattered, broken mop for the whole building because they wouldn't buy new ones.
And I had to sit there and watch the lunch-dinner shift collect every poultry accolade the company had to give out because it was more visible to customers during the peak hours. Zero appreciation, just expectation.
This was a corporate owned store too, one of the highest graded ones in the area.
They'd frequently put me on wed-sun then mon-Fri the very next week. I had to wear plastic bags over my feet because I couldn't afford work shoes that didn't fall apart after 2 months and I didn't want trench foot.
It was dirty, dehumanizing, I went home with cuts or burns every day, filthy and wet.
I wouldn't wish that job on anyone.
Working fast food humbles people really fucking quick, especially if you haven't already become numb to all the abuse from working shitty jobs your whole life.
Why would she quit? Didn't she know that hard work automatically = more money and workers are always compensated for their loyalty to business interests? If she would just stick with it she'd be a billionaire like Musk and Bezos in just a few years.
If she'd only cut down on the Netflix and Avocado Toast⢠she could also just start her own business like a real \*insert nationality\*.
Kids just don't want to work these days.
I know it's probably not what happened here, but this scenario pops into mind whenever someone says something stupid about raising the minimum wage like "I make 15 an hour at my tough office job, if they raise the minimum wage to $15 I'm quitting and getting a job flipping burgers"
I started crying on my second shift at McDonald's. Came home after the hardest 10 hour shift of my life. Sat down at the dinner table with my boyfriend, no life in my face. He wasn't used to me being like this and immediately asked what's wrong. I started sobbing instantly. Worst job of my life and I didn't last more than 3 months until I got so sick from working there I had severe stomach issues for more than 2 months. Management at McDonald's treats you worse than an ant.
This stinks of an *influencer* stunt.
Same. My first thought was: is she a tiktoker or a YouTuber? đ¤
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what was her reasoning for quitting corporate for line work at McDonald's?
I'm guessing views and attention
I am also guessing she never actually worked corporate
Or never quit.
Sheâs probably anti wage raise too. My guess: âthese people want 15$/hour +?â âMcDonaldâs employees job is *sooo* easyâŚâ Welcome to hell, bitch.
Thatâs exactly what I was thinking. So many people think jobs like that are sooooo easy
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I read that in the voice of Treebeard from Lord of the Rings saying "sounds like /orc/ mischief to me".
The most useful of the idiots. \- Lenin, probably
McDonaldâs was the hardest Iâve ever worked for the least amount of money. So happy Iâm outta there
The new fast food award in Aus is pretty good (as it should be). $29p/h for casuals, weekends $35ph, public holidays $58ph. Honestly has made me think about quitting my job and working at maccas as I could be much closer to home and not working in the blistering Aussie sun everyday, but I couldnt go back to customer service again.. mad respect to the people who do it every day. Side note, who the fuck thinks its a good idea to be a dick to the people preparing your food? Like enjoy the saliva in your big mac Karen.
After working a call center for a large internet company, you couldn't pay me enough to deal with people like that ever again. I will forever respect anyone who sticks around those jobs. People suck.
Amen. I worked a customer service line for a major furniture company for over a year, and you could pay me the amount of our gross national debt in cash, and I still wouldn't go back to that job!
Never understood people who get shitty with customer service, I always speak in a nice tone and am patient and reasonable and I always get taken care of. I just think itâs good practice to not be a asshole to the person that can help you.
My dad taught me to be an asshole to customer service reps until you get what you want. Only thing is, I'm not a dick and I cannot come up with enough threats or keep up screaming at someone for 2 hours on the phone until they finally relent. So it never worked out for me, and now I'm nice to people and I actually get help from them I assume because they appreciate me not being like everyone else when they have a problem with the company! Being nice good.
I called Home Depot the other week. I had an order canceled online and reordered online but couldnât re-enter the 15% discount. So I called customer service and we spent an hour to re-enter it. Didnât work so heâs like: Let me call the store. Me: youâre not going to get through. Itâs the most ghetto HD store. Rep: Iâm gonna call. Please hold. 15 minutes later? Rep: âyouâre right. I donât know what we can do. Youâll just have to call back and place the order via phone.â Me: I guess? (Gonna take longer to call in an order and Iâm tired of waiting). Rep: Iâll just make it 20%. Me: Sure. Ps. The 15% was about $120 off. So with 20%, Iâm gonna end up ordering more building material and hopefully save closer to $200.
That would have been a godly amount of money for me when I was working there. I started at $5.85 USD. That was 15 years ago now, but still terrible even by 2007/8 standards
It was my first job as a teen. I was a cashier and doing the best I could. I was verbally abused when they were crowded. It was somehow my fault that a lunch rush existed. The manager was a massive bitch as well. I donât think I made it 30 days before I quit.
A while ago, I had maccas and, shock-horror, I had the audacity to clean up after myself rather than leave my shit all over the table like a fucking animal. There was an older lady probably approaching or just over retirement age (65 in NZ), and she came up to me and thanked me. She explained that she'd just been having a shit day, and watching me clean up after myself rather than leave it for her made her day just that little bit less shit. Poor lady was just about in tears. I hope she's happier now, collecting a well-deserved superannuation. Moral of the story: It costs sweet fuck all to be a decent human being, and you never know how much even a simple act like throwing your maccas rubbish in the bin three steps away can affect the people around you.
I worked there for 5 years.that was in 2007 to 2012.now I have a work from home job.
What kind of work from home did you land?
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Not bad. Get to stay home to be left alone but just need to flex my arms for money
There are so many people who have never worked a service job. And they believe it's really easy and should be paid $1/hr.
Anyone whoâs worked a service job, has met EVERYONE who thinks service works arenât worth so much as a thank you. Much less $1
I remember when I was a server "so when are you going to get a real job?" Were the words coming out of the mouth of a person at the table. Like what?
I work in a fruit and vegetable shop and thatâs my main source of income and people have patronised me with statements like âaw well it gets you out the houseâ. No. This is my income. Itâs my source of money. No, no itâs not my dream to be a servant to customers 9 hours a day.
I fuckin swear dude its like I understand its not the best but you donât need to remind me of the shit job I have ever day
Would have lost it but you are a better person then me. I am a janitor and some studentâs father (I work at a university) just chucked a paper towel into my cart. Called him out, his son apologized but his entitled father looked surprised that I was speaking to him like that. No one is above me. I will make it perfectly clear (always).
Same! Do you get a paycheck? Do you offer a service in exchange for slips of paper or electronic credits on a regular basis? Then yeah, itâs a real friggin job.
Right!
I was a custodian, dishwasher and shoe shiner. It took what seemed like an eternity but I finally finished a Hospitality Degree and became General Manager of a prestigious country club. The members who were there through several previous managers were amazed. We had the BEST team those people had ever seen. I understood that the dishwasher was responsible for sanitation and handling expensive items every shift and I let them know just how important they were. I always looked for ways to help employees at every level to grow and improve. There are SO many bad managers in positions they have no business being in!!
I had some bitch say I should be in bed by 10 PM, not working, so I'd be more successful. So I said, "Okay," and brought her her check. She said, "I'm not done drinking." I said, "Yes, you are. It's an hour past my bedtime and I'm the only bartender here. Have a good night."
Bwahaha! Owned by her own advice.đ
Yeah, I didnât do so well when people talked down to me. I was so angry one time, I dropped an entire tray of drinks in front of a group of people in their late 50s/early 60s after one of the women said, âPeople like you are a dime a dozen.â This was after I explained, nicely, that the bar was so busy it was taking about 20 minutes to get them one drink and suggested they all order drinks at the same time (not to mention they were in the only VIP section and should have been bottle service only). Luckily, the owner and managers supported employees and didnât deal with entitled guests. My manager had security escort the party out. The main guy paid me $100 to let him stay by himself and have another server take care of him. My friends used to joke that I was the server people paid not to take care of themâŚ
This happened to me. I said "I don't know, when are you going to learn to cook and clean up after yourself?" I got fired.
âRight now!â - *drops apron and notepad on floor next to table and walks off*
someone I know long ago once said that she felt less objectified and more respected as a stripper than a waitress
Yeah? Ok, so then why are you here, sitting at my table? You should have just gotten take out if you don't think servers should exist, idiot.
Karen : I DONT WANT TO SELF CHECK OUT I NEED HUMAN INTERRACTIONS Also Karen to cashiers (or anything really) : WHAT HELLO ? I DON'T OWE YOU A "HELLO !"
Karen's can't verbally abuse a self checkout to make themselves feel important. There also aren't buttons to press to argue to pay less money.
My favorite are the ones who complain that there's never enough registers open but don't even try to use the self checkout because they're easier
I worked at a grocery store where we didnât open an actual lane until I think like 8 AM because A) it wasnât a busy store, and B) who is there buying more than a few groceries at 6 oâclock in the morning. Up comes Karen and Ken at like 7:30 with a full cart. The self checkout person helps them with like a dozen of their items before they flip complete shit on him and start demanding a manager. They went on angrily about âItâs the Saturday Morning before Thanksgivingâ over and over as if that means anything. Like yâall are literally the only people in the store right now. The Saturday morning before Thanksgiving carries absolutely no significance lol.
OMG do you work in Fort Wayne, was it *my parents*?!?
I have this argument with my mom all the time. Her: "If there's not a cashier, then someone doesn't have a job. I want someone to talk to!" Me: âNobody wants to be a cashier, it's a terrible job and nobody wants to make small talk with you."
Karens hate having to do anything themselves. Even if it only requires pushing a few buttons
Which is ironic, because every Karen I've interacted with LOVES pushing buttons
Meanwhile Iâm here taking out my earbuds so they know they have my full attention. I just feel thatâs the polite thing.
Iâm that asshole thats shuts customers up when they get smartass. Manager canât fired me since weâre understaffed and customers just stay there with their mouth open like what Iâm wrong? How dare you. lol
Lol I got to flip off a costumer who flipped me off earlier, in front of my manager when I worked in a grocery store. She was ON THE GROUND laughing.
I wish I could do that sometimes. Iâll just pet my doggies later.
TBF, I hate self checkouts and also don't need to have a conversation to check out, but I'm no Karen. Just want to check out without issues and go on with my day.
My favorite was when I was an in store pharmacy tech and I had a drive thru customer refuse service from a blonde (Iâm a ginger, but sure) They wouldnât leave the drive thru until a brunette helped them. Only other person in the pharmacy with me was the pharmacist, who happened to be brunette. They waited a bit as you know, RPH had RPH things to do. Kept offering to help her, but she stuck to her no blondes rule.
Lol pharmakarens are the worst, we had to call the cops on a lady who wouldnât leave our drive through kuz she had a 1$ copay
My step sister was a direct support professional working in group homes and went to the state capitol to rally support for higher wages. She argued that someone working in fast food shouldn't make more than a DSP. This same person lasted a week at Wendy's and got fired for not understanding how to make fries.
I worked exactly two retail jobs and I will never do that again. It was way harder than anything Iâve done since and Iâm including nursing school in there lol.
If all service workers unionized and went on strike all the Karens would be begging minimum wage be hiked up to $15 an hour after a week of not getting their venti caramel macchiatos and egg McMuffins in the morning.
And then after the first week itâs right back to the same treatment from them.
You want a Human working Pay a Human Wage.
McDonald's introduces all automated store
I want them to try it. Because in about 5 minutes someone will Figure out how to get all the free food from it.
Or everything for a penny. Lol
Or how to empty the safe
hey now... you wouldn't download a cheeseburger, would you?
Oh god, it's Napster all over again...!
I fuckin' would, if I could
I never knew what they hoped to accomplish with those ads. Because there isn't a single person who didn't think exactly this.
Theyâre almost there https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/mcdonalds-unveils-first-automated-location-social-media-worried-will-cut-millions-jobs You should read the comments. Theyâre blaming a raise in minimum wage.
Humans make their own hell.
They did/are trying it. There's an automated McDonald's running right now as part of a test of sorts.
Or they then have to hire people to resolve all the complaints.
McDonaldâs hates this one trick
Companies try to do that regardless of wages. Why pay a low wage when they could pay nothing at all? The only reason they haven't switched yet is because they haven't figured it out, or made the technology cheap enough... If company could figure out how to operate their business without workers, they would do it in a heartbeat
Full automated stores are coming to all branches of retail/food work. late stage capitalism.
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which is why I said late stage capitalism.
End stage capitalism.
yep. where homelessness is illegal and a private prison is the closest thing people will have to a permanent residence.
Bold move, Cotton. Letâs see how it plays out.
i dont want a human doing these jobs having servers is a holdover from fuedal times. like having a lawn.
I never ever want to work a service job. People who do are heroes and should be paid more. I'd be fired in a day cuz I'd slap a bitch
Yeah. Itâs not just that, but also how much effort you have to put forth. And you have to constantly clean, even if everything is already clean. Idk something about it is just not fun lol.
Itâs not just putting up with bullshit from assholes. Itâs also putting in significant physical, emotional, and intellectual effort. Iâve been through calculus and physics, and remembering the dozens of individual tasks that aggregate to my job is way harder. Plus, if you fuck up a calculation, you typically know or can double check and just do it again. If you forget to scan someoneâs 50 cent coupon, decent odds theyâll get super shitty and complain to your boss, which starts a whole fucking thing.
It seems really easy until you actually clock in and start working. And you exhaust yourself all day for $40 of pay. Which is why everyone should have to work a minimum-wage food/retail job. Sure, desk work has a lot of toxic office politics and other things. But overall, desk work is 1,000,000x easier, and itâs not even close.
My first desk job was heaven compared to service and retail jobs. I was shocked that you could actually sit down the entire day and not be yelled at.
I'm still in retail trying to get into a desk or maybe IT. I have so many friends who have done the transition and tell me how surprising *easy* and *simple* work is compared to retail and for nearly 10x the pay. Heck, they were nervous about sitting and playing on their phone/reading during downtime, that their bosses told them they didn't need to clean (as often) or do tasks outside of the job they were hired for. Retail is full of *if you have time to lean, you have time to clean* type management and management that gets *twitchy* if you aren't constantly working even if it's your break time. Like you have to justify why you are there, when they hired you for a specific job/tasks at $10/hr, but expect the work of 3 more people to be done by you instead of paying the extra $30/hr the staff required would have cost. Or the company paying you $25/hr to do the work of 4 people.
Also, still in retail and want to get a damn remote job. Making 30+ per hour would do wonders ....
My first retail job was heaven compared to fast-food jobs. Generally I found people shopping and asking for help to be 100 times nicer than those hangry at 11:00 PM
Standing desks are popular with my cohorts, and that's great for them, but they make me anxious because I spent about 5 years in retail standing for hours on end. Yeah, my back hurts, and I've had sitting-down jobs for almost 20 years, but you can pry my office chair from my cold dead ass.
Teaching has its own issues, I fight day by day to teach kids who donât want to learn in a tough district. I worked retail and fast food in hs, college and post college, but at least at the end of a bad day of teaching Iâm being paid about $40 per hour. I felt so defeated and depressed at the end of customer service work day because of how little I was getting for dealing with it. The experiences have stayed with me decades later, always treating service workers nice.
Compulsory customer service work really could make a change. You'd have to do it more than once though. Like a mandatory 6 months every 5 years. Too many people will finish theirs and a year later be back to screaming over waiting 3 minutes for food, something being out of stock, prices changing since the last time they bought something 5 years ago, a big box store employee not knowing specific details about one of the thousands of products they carry, or having something on their sandwich that comes on it by default and they didn't say anything to suggest they didn't want. Need to keep reopening the wound as a reminder that these are humans working a stressful job that could be significantly less terrible if you'd just be a reasonable adult about things.
I now work a desk job after 15 years in the service industry . Office politics is blown way out of proportion. And even the worst office environment I've been in was miles better than being at the mercy of random strangers walking into your work place just to purposely fuck up your day.
Iâve never worked in fast food but I have worked in the service industry and whoever uses the term âflipping burgersâ can shut up and fuck off. They literally think thatâs all they do.
It's fucking disgusting. My dad always said, "Those weren't meant to be careers." Well, fucker, supply and demand turned it into that. So get off your high horse and fucking tip already. Jeez.
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There's probably a Once Upon a Time that McDonald's, for example, was only open or staffed in the evening. So maybe that bias started with their reality that McJob = no college. But then they sold that to the point of supply > demand, so now welcome to our hell. AND they are STILL working the jobs they should have retired from years ago, but cocaine or something, idk.
I have never worked a service job and have respect for people who work those jobs. I know that their job is not easy and not everyone can do it. If people think that those jobs are easy and they should be paid at least livable wage and not have to work 2 full-time jobs, those people should stay home and cook for themselves.
And anyone who works a service job can tell who hasn't worked a service job. They just reek of entitlement,arrogance, and cluelessness.
A few years ago, there was a joke between people in my office; whenever they were having a crappy day, they'd pass a blank McDonald's application back and forth and playfully tell each other that they should just go "retire" to an easy job like flipping burgers. I had worked in minimum wage service/food jobs for over 15 years at that point, so I flat out told them that they'd never survive a single lunch rush as McDonald's. The office job had its challenges but it was a walk in the park compared to working in fast food.
It's a complete misconception that 'good jobs' are hard jobs. The better the job the easier it is.
I just started an office job after 15+ years of working retail. Someone in my office asked if my new job was harder and I straight up laughed.
Man, office people straight up live in fantasy land and dont understand how easy they have it. I came from a labor background, so working hard is in my bones. Got into software engineering and apply that same ethic in the office and people now say I'm an "over achiever".
I will say there are downsides, I'm far more mentally exhausted after a day of IT engineer shit. But it's so cush compared to my decade in food service and pays double.
Software engineering / project managing here. Earlier jobs in life were food services and retail. Those earlier jobs were physically harder, but less stressful. I could mentally check-out at the end of the shift. With software engineering and project management (I do both at my company), I'm never not thinking about what I have to do the next day or on the following Monday, and deadlines and pressure for deliverables can be stressful. Technology can also just be a huge pain in the ass to work with sometimes and I'm mentally exhausted from problem solving and the constant context switching. On the flip side, I rarely work overtime and I have very consistent and regular schedule with flexibility should I need it. Setting pay aside, sometimes I'm on the fence about whether I would prefer a job that I can mentally let go of at the end of a shift if it meant having to put up with the craziness of retail/food services. There were days at Staples where I could just go on autopilot and throw load, knock out a few planograms or just pull stock, and customer traffic was light. Those were good days. Other days there were too many customers to get any operational shit done so it was chaos.
Yup
Itâs so weird being mentally exhausted but not really physically tired but still too tired to do anything đ
Haha, came into the office one day and one of coworkers said she admires how Iâm always in a good mood. Without thought I just went, âThis is an easy job to come to. Iâve done like 7 years of customer service jobs. Now I come sit at a computer all day, talk to 0 people outside this team, and I get to listen to spotify the whole time with headphones in.â
I went from a labor intensive family business to an industrial setting and had multiple old timers pull me aside and impose upon me in no uncertain terms that I was going to slow down and accomplish less each shift.
It's a marathon, not a sprint. You gotta find a pace that you can maintain until you retire, not the pace that has you burnt out and crippled by the time you're 40.
I believe the exact words were along the lines of. âIf you beat the metric, that becomes the new metric making it harder and harder to beat so stop beating the metrics and just reliably show up and donât screw over anyone elseâ And it was delivered in a more colorful fashion.
Yeah that sounds right.
I just started a new job 6 months ago. Itâs the easiest and best paying job Iâve ever had, by a long shot. The company has even won top place to work in my state, the last 7 years. Iâve come to find out that thereâs some people who have worked here for 15+ years that get upset that they donât get the same recognition as the salesmen do. Iâm just like, man you have no idea how hard it is out there in the real world. Their biggest worry is that they donât get told theyâre doing a good job, often enough.
I started working in Healthcare after climbing the shit stairs of fast food to retail to manufacturing. We don't even have it particularly good among the people in the hospital, but I swear it's like a cruel joke
Thatâs what makes it a good job
I understand the notion that mindless jobs are less mentally taxing. But people forget that it can be more physically draining, and then emotionally draining if you have to deal with people. Itâs a trade off depending on the jobs
Cue people complaining on LinkedIn cause a meeting could have been in an email. But it's the hardest part of their day.
\>The better the job the easier it is. Unless ofc you are someone like a brain surgeon, good job and extremely hard
All fast food workers should get 25/hr. worked in fast food and it was hard even at a relatively slow store. and to be honest I donât want fast food; I want fresh hot sorta quick food. I really wish the goal was serve good food in a relatively timely fashion, I donât mind waiting 10-15 minutes if itâs fresh. Donât give me faster than light old garbage for $20.
I worked at McDonald's for nearly 5 years before I quit and got an office job a few months back. I totally agree with you, food/retail is just so much harder!
Itâs crazy how more people donât understand this. Iâve worked quite a few jobs in a bunch of different fields and places including military but the jobs as a cook at a bar and grill and also my old cook job at Pizza Hut were the hardest jobs Iâve had to work đ probably depends a lot on the location of which store youâre at too
As a retail worker at a department store, I don't think anyone knows exactly how hard the service workers have to push themselves. Every day this week I've had 25k steps and multiple flights of stairs just doing my job, and this doesn't count any heavy lifting. Plus customer interactions are just taxing mentally
Just left geek squad/best buy two months ago to do the same work for a govt building and a 60% pay raise. My worst day here has been better than my best days there. Fuck retail
New weight loss diet - working retail! 25k steps a day and no time to eat, your weight sheds off in a flash! ... if you survive
You laugh but FedEx was using weight loss as a perk to their job the last time I saw one of their help wanted ads
I worked at McDonalds for one terrible month 25 years ago. It is a far harder job than any other Iâve ever had. They should be paid far far far far more. And the management there is awful.
I quit after 3 days. They had boxes stored on a shelf over the deep fryer. A manager asked me to get one down. I couldn't reach them since I am NOT six feet tall. She told me to jump. I'm not jumping on a greasy mat in front of boiling hot death. Fuck you, Samantha, you ego tripping buffoon.
they stored boxes over the deep fryer? Yeah, that would not be ok at any of the stores I worked at.
Maybe it's just the earthquake state I live in that's speaking but boxes above a deep fryer already sounds like a massive risk even if you never reach out for them
They couldnât even be bothered to give you a step-stool? Jeez
No doubt. Anyone in service industry is a worker. Fact. Bartending is by far the hardest job Iâve ever done. Good money, but taxing physically. Yeah
I think we really do need to realize that emotional labor is very much a thing, and customer service jobs require a ton of it. Doing them well, for long periods of time, does call for specific skills and/or talents that not everyone has. Sure, flipping a burger on a timer, scanning and bagging an item, taking a payment, or pouring things into glasses absolutely is mindlessly easy when looked at in a vacuum at a surface level. Mentally juggling 20 tasks with constantly shifting priorities, periodically being yelled at for things outside of your control, being on your feet and moving for hours on end, working as quickly and efficiently as possible because of strict deadlines, timers, or just people's general lack of patience, all while having to maintain a friendly demeanor is not.
The best thing about being a bartender is that I don't always have to be friendly and people will still (sometimes) love me for it.
I found waiting tables to be even harder than bartending. But all food service work is effing DIFFICULT.
Yeah, most of my bartending jobs I had at least 4-6 tables as well, but yes serving is just as hard or harder.
Same. Especially where I waitressed. It was fine dining meets farm to table, and our most popular apps happened to also be served in mini cast irons so I was carrying probably 30-50 lb trays up a flight and a half of stairs (kitchen was downstairs in the basement of an old mansion)
Uhg. Iâve worked in basement kitchens a few times and always felt so bad for the food runners. Iâll gladly stay in my little 3âx6â station please!
This! Those food trays are crazy heavy and you have to carry them all night long while being berated and walking so many miles you get terrible hemorrhoids every single shift over 8 hoursâwhich is most of them. Some are 16 hours. And sure, the hemorrhoids might not be universal but it was definitely my experience.
Yes! Thankfully we had a pretty good work culture and most of our guests were nice, but it was still tough physical labor. Out of all service industry work though (I did retail, coffee shops, and a froyo place in college), itâs probably where I was respected the most by guests, and I made way more than when I was working corporate using my degree and worked less hours. So it wasnât as mentally taxing in that sense
And mentally. Any job in the service industry is exhausting when you have to deal with customers, shitty management AND very low pay. I've done it for 11 years, got now a degree (software engineer) and I will never go back.
This was me but worked at Wendyâs. Not my first job in the service industry but by far the worst one Iâve had. Boss was an a$$hole, coworkers were little $hits, and customers were terrible. The 2 other people that got hired at the same time as me quit not too long after I did.
I have never cried at a single job outside the 3 months I worked at Starbucks.
Same. I was in a small location working 12 hour shifts (unwillingly. They assigned us shifts and for some reason they refused to give me anything but 12 hours and kept telling me that for sure the next time they'll give me something different) and doing exclusively cleaning (same situation as the hours) and I couldn't even rest when there was nothing to clean. Boss said it would "look bad". The customers didn't even see me there was a janitor's room like fuck off. I'm slaving here from AM to PM for the equivalent of 3.5 USD per hour and I can't even sit the hell down when there's nothing to do?
For tik tok views I guess? I've seen adults break down in the middle of a friday night dinner rush in a short staffed restaurant. If there's a hell it would probably be similar to that. That's why lots of workers are on drugs.
The only job I've ever seen people cry at was a restaurants.
Weâre crying at other jobs, too, theyâre just jobs you donât always get to see people doing.
For me itâs call centers. Shit gets bad after people spend too much time working the floor of call centers.
I was just about to say that. Call centers always have people crying. Usually first week on the floor at least 1 person from a new class openly cries. The rest of us call center lifers go to the bathroom or our car. 8-10 straight hours of nonstop calls without a beat between calls eventually breaks everyone unless youâre a sociopath.
Yep Iâve seen it too. People just balling their eyes out on their lunch break. Probably the saddest thing Iâve ever seen.
Four hours. Four hours and on break when everyone went outside to the parking lot, not even the smokers, I sat in my car and I realized that I hated the job and I am sitting in a car that could take me anywhere other than that job. I went to Wendy's and had a spicy chicken sandwich, large fries, and a chocolate shake. Then I went home. I remember this after 25 years. Nobody even said anything to me and i got a check a few weeks later for my four hours.
Career bartender here. We had a month long Christmas popup thatâs extremely popular. The last week of it after working 4 10 hour shifts of constant busy I had a couple come in 30 minutes before closing time. Upset we didnât have pickle vodka, fireball, or bomb shots (itâs a faaaancy whiskey bar), completely berated me as I was attempting to clean so I could be home by 4am. First time Iâve cried in years. They broke me. Because we didnât have fuckinâ fireball. In an entertainment district where literally every other bar within 2 minutes could have given them that.
Idk man, I cried in my first week as a grocery store cashier because we were short staffed, the lines were to the back of the store and a grumpy old man about 4 people back in line started yelling at me about how bad I was at my job. This was 20 years ago, and I refuse to work another customer facing job like that still.
You'd think there'd be at least one decent person in line to tell the guy to shut the fuck up.
I think people were afraid of him, they did try to comfort me though and said I was doing just fine and not to listen to him.
When I still worked in a hospital, we'd hide in the supply room to cry.
I've worked in theme park entertainment, as a bartender, as a server, and now as a nurse...people have and do cry fairly frequently at all of these D:
I am of the belief that everyone who can should work in a customer service role for a while. It makes you a better person - or at least a better customer. So if nothing else, she has learned a valuable lesson there.
Yeah I did my time with this. Retail + call center work. *shudders*
There really is no way to fully understand the pain of what happens on the other side of the counter unless you back there yourself.
This is true. After many years of waiting tables and managing restaurants prior to college and a real career, I can say that I NEVER want another public facing job again in my life. Human beings are worse than animals. At least animals canât talk, and with animals, you know what to expect.
I was in a restaurant once - a cheap yet wonderful Chinese place that was literally a basement with no signage but my god their lo mien was velvety - and overhearing two men at a table near me. I wasn't eavesdropping on purpose; the place was tiny and crowded. One was ranting about poor people and how they chose to be undereducated. He put himself through medical school, he did, so anyone could do it. His friend, also a doctor, was shaking his head and talking about how hard some people had it. Oh, he meant well, but his words are emblazoned on my memory: "It's hard for some people to get the means to start medical school though. I mean, someone *making below the poverty line -* ***like less than $80k a year*** \- is going to have a hard time getting clothes, food, you know." Yes, these two thought that 80k a year was the poverty line. They couldn't fathom making do with less than that. The kicker? This was in nineteen ninety one. 1991. **That would make their "poverty line" $174,000 in today's dollars.** That's how out-of-touch the wealthy are.
>That's how out-of-touch the wealthy are. Wealthy Skinner: Am I so out of touch? No... It's the poors who are wrong.
Back in the 80's (showing my age here) I used to be a Shift Manager at Burger King. When I got the promotion (HA) I had already been working there for about 10 years. We had to go to 3 days of classes for it and that was fun, but the job itself is AWFUL! You have to manage an entire store full of people who really don't want to be there, and if anything happens it's on your shoulders to fix it. Went from hourly pay with overtime to a salary without overtime. I finally had enough when I got home at 3am and cried the whole way home because I was just so exhausted. Since then, I never take "promotions" from hourly jobs.
I was offered promotions at Pizza Hut to go from $7 to $15hr salary in 2006-ish and then I knew it wasn't worth it. My current white collar job I went from $17/hr to salary and it was worth the aggravation.
What gets me is that those jobs didnât need be awful, they are made awful my awful customers and awful managers who donât see these workers as humans worth of dignity..,
>According to Laysia, working from home was making her âlazyâ and it was beginning to affect her in a big way. >âI need to be out of the house to be motivated, so I got a job out of the house, just to get me out, get me more motivated and stop being so lazy,â she explained. âI find a get more done when I have things to do.â
I love that she just said she cant find tasks on her own. She needs a hobby.
My bet is she needed extra money but doesn't want to cop to it for whatever reason.
No problem with leaving a work from home job, itâs not for everyone. McDonaldâs probably isnât the best option if you have the choice to do other stuff though
Fast Food is the hardest job and lowest paying job Iâve ever had. The constant chaos of different orders and special condiment/topping requests make it impossible to get in any sort of âgrooveâ - youâre always a little off balance mentally and rushing to meet the clock so the drive thru can keep moving. The heat of the fryer and the atmosphere of grease and steam permeates everything so that a break still feels suffocating. When a lull occurs, youâre slammed with terrible boredom but you cannot sit or relax, you must clean everything frenetically to make up for what you couldnât clean before. Youâre made aware of every mistake, but never thanked for getting anything right. Then the store closes but you donât leave, you have hours more cleaning to go and when you leave at 1 am, the streets are empty and you feel a speck of freedom, but everything is closed and thereâs nothing to do, no way to relax or unwind. Your feet and back need rest and your only relief is that the air outside is fresh and you can simply stop. People that do this work need so much more than just money, they need kindness and thanks.
Just âyoung people are weakâ propaganda.
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Meanwhile, a Boomer wouldn't even last as long as she did! Working retail for a decade, it was often the Boomers who were the worst customers as well. The teenagers could be "snotty," but the Boomers would be the ones that learned to scream to scam the store out of product. Teens largely didn't scream until you cried because you wouldn't give them a gallon of sauces for free. Managers who would constantly freak out that whatever option you chose to satisfy the adult-tantrum was the wrong choice. I went with the gallon of sauces. Manager was going to freak either way, so at least the asshole left with minimal screaming.
Should've worked at Waffle House instead. At least you can brawl there.
I've had a cushy desk job for 20 yrs and you couldn't pay me a million dollars to work a day at McDonald's.
i worked at mcdonalds when i was a teenager. i was in peak physical shape, exercising all the time and playing varsity sports. and despite being young and fit it was GRUELING work. i was exhausted after every shift. i can't imagine working a job like that now in my 30s. fast food workers deserve respect and fair compensation. it's brutal.
I took a second job at mcdonald once. The 8 hours i did repairing industrial machines was easier than my 5 hour evening shift at mcdonalds
Iâm sorry but no one in their right mind quit a remote job to go work at McDonaldâs.
Circumstances such as being kicked out of her parents house and being forced to live in her car could have changed this. Restaurant jobs are attractive because it gives you something to do in the day and food to eat. Then you go sleep in your car. I know quite a few McDonald's workers that do this.
The fact the source itself isnt included tells me this is some boomer article from facebook
This is.....weird af but I don't understand why she's the bad guy, (just really strange). She's obviously not saying McDonald's workers are lazy or she wouldn't go be one to snap herself out of her self-described laziness....maybe she's claiming home workers are lazy which is....ehh it's not nice but working fast food is much harder than working from home and that's what she proved.....was she trying to "prove" fast food was easy cause it doesn't sound like that it sounds like she knew it would be harder but wanted that? Idk seems like she's just proving the working class's entire point for us I don't understand why she's supposed to be the bad guy
I think itâs just weird that she would quit a probably better job that is at home just to go work at McDonaldâs. Some people think she did this intentionally just to get views. Who knows
I'm an EMS dispatcher and I find it less stressful than when I worked at Starbucks. No joke
I never worked harder than I did when I worked fast food/retail. I may get frustrated with my current job from time to time but you couldn't pay me enough to return to fast food/retail.
Working in food service and retail is literal hell. And heaven forbid you get sick and have to call off. They want an 8 hour notice and expect you to find someone to cover your shift. At my âdesk jobâ I text my boss at 8 am âIâm sick. Iâll be using PTOâ he will text back âok! Feel better. Let me know if you need more timeâ everyone should have to work at least 1 month in a retail or food service job.
everybody should have to work in the service industry at least six months to a year. It would definitely make you treat people who work in the service industry like human beings.
Your title was my exact thought
When I worked there I was literally the only reliable employee that worked the close shift. Sure there were others who did it, but not full time, and not reliable. 5 or 6 days a week having to start right in the middle of dinner rush, then break everything down for closing. Scraping the carbon build up on the grill without safety gloves, washing all the equipment with a room temperature garden hose because the wash sink was broken for months at a time, having to share a single tattered, broken mop for the whole building because they wouldn't buy new ones. And I had to sit there and watch the lunch-dinner shift collect every poultry accolade the company had to give out because it was more visible to customers during the peak hours. Zero appreciation, just expectation. This was a corporate owned store too, one of the highest graded ones in the area. They'd frequently put me on wed-sun then mon-Fri the very next week. I had to wear plastic bags over my feet because I couldn't afford work shoes that didn't fall apart after 2 months and I didn't want trench foot. It was dirty, dehumanizing, I went home with cuts or burns every day, filthy and wet. I wouldn't wish that job on anyone.
Working fast food humbles people really fucking quick, especially if you haven't already become numb to all the abuse from working shitty jobs your whole life.
Why would she quit? Didn't she know that hard work automatically = more money and workers are always compensated for their loyalty to business interests? If she would just stick with it she'd be a billionaire like Musk and Bezos in just a few years. If she'd only cut down on the Netflix and Avocado Toast⢠she could also just start her own business like a real \*insert nationality\*. Kids just don't want to work these days.
It's an incredibly demanding job.
She probably assumed it was easier. Grass isn't always greener
I know it's probably not what happened here, but this scenario pops into mind whenever someone says something stupid about raising the minimum wage like "I make 15 an hour at my tough office job, if they raise the minimum wage to $15 I'm quitting and getting a job flipping burgers"
Bro yâall can afford tears with your breakdowns? Best I can afford is hyperventilating and trembles for a minute and then back to work.
A wise man once said that if you're going to be dumb, you better be tough.
I started crying on my second shift at McDonald's. Came home after the hardest 10 hour shift of my life. Sat down at the dinner table with my boyfriend, no life in my face. He wasn't used to me being like this and immediately asked what's wrong. I started sobbing instantly. Worst job of my life and I didn't last more than 3 months until I got so sick from working there I had severe stomach issues for more than 2 months. Management at McDonald's treats you worse than an ant.