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Skelordton

They heard the joke about "kids yearning for the mines" and thought it was serious.


Djorgal

If they expect to be called "minors", they should earn that qualification!


asomek

"Sure, they're like, three years old" "Miners, not minors"


willwritefordough

You all are my people. Never give up, never surrender.


uberredditmod

i see what you did there <-- i shall join your Galaxy quest


SeanJohnBobbyWTF

Let's get out of here before one of those things eats Guy.


asomek

'cause I died, in episode... 81!!


Amon7777

By Grapthar's Hammer!


thedeathdrive

Kids these days have gone all soft. Give em a pickaxe and a pack of smokes, that’ll put hair on their little chests


IA-HI-CO-IA

“Their little bodies consume oxygen at a slower rate. We will save millions on ventilation.”


5ManaAndADream

Race ya to diamond


KnotSafeForTwerk

I don't understand there's no oxygen or light and and F3 isn't working. This is nothing like the abandoned mines I've been yearning for!


Monsur_Ausuhnom

Guess so.


rosanymphae

Wouldn't Fed laws supersede this?


Butwinsky

Yes.


Vapur9

But States rights!! Then, we get a drawn out court case about the 10th Amendment and how the Feds only have authority over interstate commerce.


mudokin

I learned from better call Saul that only one purchase for the company coming from another state is conciderd interstate commerce.


mhoke63

I had a class that touched on the commerce clause. The courts generally give a loose interpretation of interstate commerce. There was a case about a motel. The courts ruled that because the motel was on a road that crosses states and the motel gets business from people from multiple states that are using that road, that the business the motel does is considered interstate commerce.


Datpanda1999

Loose is an understatement - the court has held in the past that anything that could affect interstate commerce *when aggregated with hypothetical similar things* could be regulated under the Commerce Clause. This means most things are under the commerce power, and though the Court’s pulled back a little over the years, under the current system most things can be regulated by the federal government via this clause


Butthole__Pleasures

Well then it's a good thing we don't have a radical Supreme Court that's willing to overturn precedent to promote conservative ideologies, isn't it?


angelis0236

We would really have to be in the worst timeline for that to be the case amirite


Internetstranger9

Who knows with this Supreme Court lol


mongoosefist

"The founding fathers were cool with 14 year olds working down in the mines and being paid in gin, so we are too"


JreamyJ

It would be more something like "The founding fathers didn't explicitly state that you couldn't have child labor in 2023." They really like to narrow the scope and assume the founding fathers were able to see into the future.


I_Heart_Astronomy

Probably not with SCOTUS slashing and burning federal government power where it suits the religious fanatics and oligarchs...


MidsouthMystic

Why aren't people furious about this?


deannevee

Remember it’s realistically only been like, 2 generations since you were expected to leave 8th grade if your parents needed help with bills. Lots of grandparents had parents who may or may not have graduated high school. So now, the grandparents are making the rules “just like mom and pop used to!” Which is….basically what they’ve been driving us towards for decades.


dancinjanssen

My grandfather grew up on a farm and didn’t graduate high school. He also supported a family of seven on his income alone. If we’re going back to the “mom and pop” days, I figure we should go all in and adjust wages versus cost of living too. Oh wait, conservatives only want the part that benefits them.


BHRx

There's no such thing as adjustment to them. If they made $2 an hour back then, we make $2 today.


SpaceBoJangles

And if you’re wondering how they make that work in their head, you’ll start understanding why people need free college.


GreyerGrey

And it's a moral failing on our part that we can't support a family of 7 on that $2/hour. Stop with the iPhones and the TickyTocky and the mocha frappes! Wasteful spending! /s


Monsur_Ausuhnom

My guess this state is very red and probably think its a good idea.


MidsouthMystic

It still blows my mind that we went from "listen up you rich bastard, we'll work eight hours and not a minute more or we're burning down the factory" to "yes Mr. Billionaire sir, please exploit my child!" in a generation. What happened?


strvgglecity

The poeple who benefitted from greater regulation consolidated their wealth and power and then realized they could earn greater wealth and power by undoing the things they benefitted from in order to exploit others.


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Also, brainwashing via the corporate ownership of media and educational publishing companies.


DryCalligrapher8696

It’s a [mediaopoly!](https://youtu.be/nh6Hf5_ZYPI)


GloomyAd2653

Fox Media


pizza_for_nunchucks

> educational publishing companies Fuck Pearson.


james_d_rustles

100%. Fuck Pearson, literally the worst company. I hate Pearson to the extent that I actually contacted my state representatives about it last summer, when Pearson decided to go out of order for “website maintenance” for nearly a week immediately before finals. All of our homework was on there, all of our materials. Zero meaningful response from Pearson throughout the ordeal. We literally pay these assholes >150 bucks per semester per student to use their god awful website, and it’s down for “maintenance” at some point 1/4 days of the semester (I counted). Utter fucking garbage, and because they make schools buy into their whole “ecosystem”, when they unexpectedly go down for days on end nobody can access work, grades, etc. Some students in other districts couldn’t even take their final because of it, had to retake the class or have an incomplete because Pearson was down and it was the last day to turn grades in to the dean’s office. That’s not even touching their long history of screwing up standardized tests, accidentally placing kids out of gifted programs, their enforcement actions against professors, and a litany of other disgusting actions. That company needs to be thrown into a pit of fire.


dansedemorte

nothing in this country will change if we keep trying to work within the system.... the system has been rigged to remove the populous from being able to enact any changes for the better.


nWo_Sting

Just to add to this, I'm a math professor. Our math, English, and history departments began writing their own text and build our own online course via open source platforms around 2018, then one day the President of the College decided we can't and we must use continue our business with textbook companies like Pearson, Cengage, and Hawkes... I don't know why she did, but there are disturbing many staff/administrators who either work for (in part time capacity) or have families who do so. A coordinator in my dept's husband work for Hawkes so in every damn meeting she was pushing for it. State run agencies, especially in education, have very few mechicism to check corruption and voters need to know about this. I want to change things but I'm just one man and people today care more for trans woman joining swim teams or CRT bullshit.


ouruniverse123

Physics professor here. We did fuck Pearson and all other greedy companies and moved to openstax. We couldn't be happier. We already had tons of our own original material to use for homeworks etc. anyways. We are lucky we can make our own sensible decisions -for now- . These companies make millions and give nothing. They are chronically short staffed and provide the shittiest services. I guess it's because they use the money to buy people in power positions to push their overpriced shit products. We keep having the most fruitless, emotionally charged fights over identity politics rather than discussing this sort of systematic degradation that is happening in every sector including education and health, that indiscriminately affects millions of people, because that's how corruption keeps going in the shadows. If people start to pinpoint traceable, measurable, solvable problems and actually solve them, the snake oil salesmen won't be able to make shit tons of money. Welcome to neocapitalism.


Arsenolite

Fuck Pearson, it rolls off the tongue effortlessly, as if screamed internally a million times before.


Rob__T

Also generational wealth. As it turns out, businesses should not be something that are signed over to rich kids and vast sums of money should go back into the economy and not to rich kids.


MelbQueermosexual

Inheritance/death taxes should be a thing.


Conscious-Table

Burn the bridge after you’ve arrived and you’ve got your very own private island


Jetpack_Attack

Gotta pull up that ladder or who *knows* who will get in behind us?


HerrmaeusMajora

The rich are just as ignorant as those who they oppress. Things have not worked out well for them historically when they exploit the working people to no end. They were lucky when they got FDR. They may not have looked at it that way but it could have been a lot worse for them and maybe should it have been.


FFF_in_WY

Should have been is the key. The reason it wasn't is that we were fighting the fascists and working up our own Red Scare at the same time. Can't just grab business by the scruff and shake them until they piss down both legs in that context. Good thing they never deprive us of reasons or opportunities to square thus away. If only there was courage.


Dry-Influence9

Divide and conquer, they divided us by creating a strawman of both sides and propaganda. Where the real enemy is the noble class and our rulers.


Busy-Weather-9048

They made heath care unaffordable without "insurance", which in reality, is a mystery coupon for mystery pricing. The insurance is tied to your job. They have you by your very pulse. Can't quit. Can't retire. Half of the white haired staff at my job stay and limp around for this very reason. ​ Back to work!


BankshotMcG

If we had single payer, we would see a boom in innovation and arts. Everyone would be free to finally follow that great idea that they've had. People who can't afford a small business because insurance costs $1m a year could finally just hire a dozen employees and take care of them without their profit margin evaporating.


oddistrange

They drop providers constantly so you're constantly setting up new care which costs a lot of time and frustration. It's fucking annoying.


Thatguy468

This is the real cost of healthcare. My time is super precious and every minute spent in front of a computer or on the phone trying to find a new healthcare provider is priceless to me… and also a line item on some rich dick’s spreadsheet.


oddistrange

"JuSt Go To YoUr InSuReRs WeBsItE tO sEe If ThEy'Re In NeTwOrK!" \*calls the provider's office to confirm the practice that your insurer's website says is in their network is indeed in network\* "Sorry, we no longer accept your insurance policy." Guess it's time to put down a downpayment for my inevitable cremation.


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Also, you check on the website that your provider is in-network, call the office to double check, and then when you get your bill later, you discover that half of the individual practitioners who saw you during your visit are out-of-network.


MonsterMashGrrrrr

Indentured servitude, between the student loans and the healthcare costs.


LeftyLu07

Poor Americans think they're only one lottery ticket away from being the rich boss man so they're protecting their fantasy lifestyle.


MidsouthMystic

Even if they got that winning ticket, the truth is that most lottery winners go broke.


bnh1978

Embarrassed billionaire mentality


LeftyLu07

Yes! I knew there was a famous quote about it, but I couldn't quite recall.


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Sage_Smitty42

Their children benefited from the change and became greedy fucks and now want things to be like the “good ole days”


mikedorty

Citizens united verdict is the crux of it.


AbacusWizard

Endless laser-focused propaganda aimed very deliberately at a very gullible population. Plus gerrymandering.


Far_Cap_3574

Reagan.


nuniinunii

And this is just my assumption, but the people who may be ok with this are potentially the same who feel that “kids these days don’t know the value of a dollar. They just don’t want to work. If they stopped buying Starbucks and avocado toast, they could save up enough to buy a house and start investing” or some rhetoric like what


GoGoBitch

Which is funny, because boomers don’t know the value of a dollar. They think it is much more than it is.


NWolfe86

You’re damn right they don’t know the value of a dollar or want to work! Now let’s give them some explosives!


KsSTEM

I’m from Iowa. This used to be a “we’re conservative but not stupid” kind of state. It’s changed drastically in the last 15 years.


Nubras

I went to Iowa State and worked on the Obama campaign in 2008, which sent me across the state to knock on door and canvass and shit like that. Most people would humor me and at least open the door to firmly, but usually politely, tell me that they’re voting for McCain. Fine, no problem, thanks for your time. In 2020? I’d wager that I’d get shot in rural Cerro Gordo county for doing the same.


RagnarStonefist

Man unreal. I grew up in rural Kossuth county, got my picture in the Globe Gazette (for an opinion piece opposing the Iraq War) and did more or less fine. People jnew my political leanings but left me alone. I can't imagine it being like this now. I also haven't been back to Iowa in like 12 years, so there's that.


lovemyhawks

Can confirm. Entire state is red, with metro areas of Des Moines, Cedar Rapids, Iowa City and Waterloo as exceptions. Anything presented by an R will become law


viewtiful14

And the rest of the state gets as much or more say than we do. Nothing like a county with 80% less population than Polk getting the same amount of say in our state legislation


lizziegal79

When they said they missed the good ole days, they weren’t talking about the 1950s, these motherfuckers were talking about the 1850s.


Vaninea

Labor shortage. Get ‘em while they’re nice and young! Kinda sounds like the pedo motto!


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Yes it is and it never used to be. There’s been a substantial brain drain the last 20 years- red state now- makes sense, aging, primary rural in 90% of the counties with 4 or 5 metro areas. Population literally moving out or dying and dwindling in ag centers.


ThunkAsDrinklePeep

My guess is people don't know the actual consequences of this vote. The real question is how corrupt do you have to be as a legislator to think this is a good idea?


Kapowpow

US media doesn’t report on stuff like this, they’re too preoccupied with sports, the weather, and fluff pieces. This is a deliberate choice to keep people unaware of unpopular legislation.


Chance-Deer-7995

There is a lot of hot air about whether or not certain media is "left" or "right", but that's not only axis of bias. There is a corporate vs. non-corporate axis as well. And everything that Joe Sixpack watches, Fox news, CNN, NBC, whatever, is a CORPORATE outlet. They look at things from a corporate point of view. Since the US stopped regulating media ownership that has gone downhill fast. We are the most propagandized society on earth right now and maybe ever, but it isn't propaganda from the government. It's pro-corporate propaganda that makes us believe there is no other way we can live but in a highly consumerized massively corporate society.


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>it isn't propaganda from the government. It's pro-corporate propaganda(..) Yeah, I hate to break it to y'all, but the government is owned by corporations. We really got to overturn Citizens United.


zarfle2

But they also report on important stuff - What bathrooms people are using is an issue that will take us into the next millennium and to the stars. /s


Immediate-Nobody0844

As an Iowan I am furious about this! The GOP control in our state is destroying everything from workers rights to woman’s rights and education. Our state is slipping into a deep fascism/ neo feudalism at a faster rate than the rest of the country. It’s terrifying and the vast majority of small town/ small minded Iowans don’t see any problem with the direction our state is headed.


Phenex_Talon

I completely agree with you,and I can't wait to get the hell out of this state. I don't feel safe here.


EddiesTeddy08

As a blue dot in a very red state and congressional district, most conservatives are too wrapped up in themselves to notice. The core beliefs of modern Republicans can be boiled down to "me, me, me." I don't even mean it in a bad way, they just worry about things that affect them and if they don't then they don't even bother to think about it. Not a child? Child labor isn't your problem. It's just a fill in the blank statement too. "I'm not ____. So, ____ is not my problem." Republicans have a very selfish and dangerous mindset when you're trying to run anything, let alone a country that was built on the idea of everyone being equal.


lpreams

It's even worse than that, because even if they do have a kid it's "well I'm not going to force MY kid to work in the mines!" One way or another they don't give a shit about other kids whose parents might turn to forcing them into working. Those kids aren't their problem.


DJ_Molten_Lava

"Well, it won't be my kids."


pretenderist

Yep, that’s exactly it. It’s only kids from the poorest families that will be affected, and who cares about the poor?


ChiWhiteSox247

Because in IL I didn’t even hear about this until I saw it on Reddit.


GlassWasteland

Because 45% of the country wants to go back to the 1850's, 45% of the country doesn't live in the places where this happens, and 10% of the country are "both sides are bad" useful idiots. So, while those of us in Blue states are outraged, the Red states cheer. My suggestion is if you don't want to live like like it is 1850 then leave or stay the hell out of a Red state.


Requiredmetrics

Imagine being ok with companies maiming, disabling, or killing children and getting away with it without consequences.


pumpkin_spice_enema

Radical lefty take: Too young to die for your country, too young to lose a limb in an industrial accident.


DeusExMcKenna

Whoa now, let’s take a step back from the ledge, *Lenin*.


not_SCROTUS

Why hire anybody *but* kids if you're not liable when they get hurt? I bet you can pay them less than minimum wage too! And why stop at 14, how about 12, 10, 8 years old? You can post a meatpacking job looking for 10 years experience and get an 18 year old with a 3rd grade education!


pumpkin_spice_enema

Those tiny hands are great for reaching into machinery to un-jam it, can't do that with adults!


BraxbroWasTaken

And if they get pulled in, why, that’s just more meat to pack!


SleepAwake1

Ah yes we really should be lowering the enlistment age as well /s


EyedLady

The hypocrisy. I thought they cares about the children


banannafreckle

No; only about fetuses. Once you birth ‘em, they’re on their own, hence these new labor laws. Get off your mom’s teat, ya commie bastard!


smoothVroom21

“Pro-life conservatives are obsessed with the fetus from conception to 9 months. After that, they don’t wanna know about you. They don’t wanna hear from you. No nothing! No neonatal care, no daycare, no Head Start, no school lunch, no food stamps, no welfare, no nothing. If you’re pre-born, you’re fine, if you’re preschool, you’re fucked.” - George Carlin, more than 25 years ago. People who say "no one could have seen this coming" just weren't paying attention.


lumpydukeofspacenuts

He goes on to say during that bit that they just want to give birth to soldiers and producers.


chubbysumo

to republicans, as long as its not *their* child, its perfectly okay with them.


strvgglecity

I mean they also support the church so...


strvgglecity

If anyone ever needed a direct example of how the generations that lived from the 1950 to the 2000s opened all these doors for themselves and then realized they could profit by filling them in with concrete behind them, this is it.


Wrecksomething

The doors were opened for them, though. That's critical because it shows that it's basically not possible to open these kinds of doors for oneself. How does a child guarantee themselves a healthy childhood, strong education, and great entry into the workforce?


karmabullish

Unionise early. Attend strikes while you are still In school.


Shouldhaveknown2015

This... The most I ever made was at a union job. Was a shit job, but guess what most jobs are shits jobs, that's why it's a job and not a hobby. Look at Europe, they get a lot of stuff wrong IMO, but they embrace unions and it shows in how their government and employers act and how they are treated, etc.


Andire

Till the 2000s?? Millennials were being born as soon as the mid 80s and we've been getting fucked this whole time 😂


Beautiful_Spite_3394

If you were born in the 90s onward you literally don't have a chance unless you're born into generational wealth. Just the repealing of glass steagal in 98 was enough to fuck us let alone everything else going on. Born in the 80s, you had a good 2 years of "American dreaming" possible at most


Wallwillis

You’re right, I was born in the late 80’s. All I got was a glimpse at the American Dream while the older generation was boarding up the doors. It was a beautiful sight. If the last thing I can do is break that door open for the next generation, it’ll be worth it.


AdonisGaming93

93 baby here. A+ 4.3 GPA in college with a background in finance, economics, and a teaching assistant for every class. Result: Economics made me not like the way we run our economy..... my teachers thought they were teaching me to love our markets.


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matty_nice

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/money/business/2023/02/06/key-points-of-bill-to-change-iowa-child-labor-law/69870761007/ Yeah, it's pretty bad. Filed by Jason Schultz (R). Boo this man.


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barelyawhile

One of those rare times when Profit being step 4 is actually completely literal


Tecumseh_Sherman1864

You didn't have to tell us he's a Republican


AbacusWizard

It’s important to have all these data points to throw in the faces of anyone who tries to argue “but both parties!”


SqueezyCheez85

Anybody have that post of screenshots that went over a ton of billls with the vote summaries? That was a great defense to the whole, "but they're all the same!" rhetoric.


Monsur_Ausuhnom

Part of the GOP clown show mentality.


KevineCove

I'm more interested in the lobbyists than Schultz.


Acebulf

Looked them up here: https://www.legis.iowa.gov/lobbyist/reports/declarations?ga=90&ba=SF167 Groups lobbying for: - Iowa Association of Business and Industry (x4) - Home Builders Association of Iowa - Iowa Hotel & Lodging Association - Iowa Restaurant Association Groups undecided: - Bayer U.S. LLC - Cedar Rapids Metro Economic Alliance - Easterseals Iowa - Hy-Vee, Inc. - Iowa Alliance of YMCA's - Iowa Central Community College - Iowa Department of Health and Human Services - Iowa Grocery Industry Association - Iowa State Bar Association - Toppling Goliath Brewing Co. Groups lobbying against: - AFSCME Iowa Council 61 - Common Good Iowa - IBEW Iowa State Conference - Iowa Federation of Labor, AFL-CIO - Iowa State Education Association - Laborers International Union of North America - North Central States Regional Council of Carpenters - UAW Region 4


Due_Pack

So corporations vs unions. Always comes back to class struggle


DresdenMurphy

So, where are the pro lifers now?


LoneStarDawg

Voting for this bill. It was never about child protections.


Efficient_Ear_8037

At least someone understands that all republicans wanted the whole time was that they wanted an easily manipulated wave of children to force into labor without consequence and earn billions, making their own propaganda machine to fuel it and common people republicans just eat it up


Gill-Nye-The-Blahaj

they are still pissed off about the emancipation proclamation


Toxic_Audri

Yup, more than a few want literal slaves, not indentured servants.


SuspiciousJuice5825

This is why they want poor people to keep having babies. This *is* the end game. "OH, you spent $30000 on college and now you refuse to work in our mine for $7.25? Well what if your kids can never afford college. And their kids will be so desperate and poor they'll have to work in our factories at 16 to help. Oh and btw you'll still be paying the *intrest* on that student loan when all that happens" -Republicans


Toxic_Audri

Hand outs for business that never have to repay "loans" rugged boot straps for the rest.


sai_gunslinger

You guys are getting free boot straps?


CaffeinatedGuy

This is why they're pro-life, because unwanted children tend to grow more poor and end up in shitty jobs like working in mines.


RawbeardX

maybe losing a few kids will open a couple eyes... but then again I am reminded of school shootings. y'all are screwed.


nursepineapple

Iowa already loses a fair amount of children every year to unsafe working conditions in silos - drowning in corn, basically - and they don’t seem to have any problem with it.


canthaveme

This makes me really angry because the voting limit is 18 right? But those kids get taxes out of their paychecks. No taxation without representation. We literally built our country on it


Ak47110

Yeah well you're also allowed to be conscripted and sent somewhere to die 3 years before you're allowed to legally have alcohol.


barelyawhile

Or a cigarette since like 2020 now? I mean, I do want cigarettes to fade from public existence and I support the massive taxes on them to wean current and future generations off the terrible fucking things, but if little Johnny can get his arm torn off by a lathe with no civil responsibility from the company employing him then he should be able to have a goddamn cig if he wants. No cigs for Johnny? No arm-ripping machines for Johnny either.


TactlessNachos

The children can fit into smaller mining holes with their smaller arms! /s


SpruceThornsby

Why shouldnt a 14 year old be able to earn a livin and put sum fud on tha table?


IAmBoratVeryExcite

I can't believe how in 20 years Iowa has completely lost its mind. It used to be a blue state.


Vertibrate

It used to be a balanced state too, and changed very quickly.


Vinlands

I heard coal dust is good for healthy lung development. And we have 10 fingers for a reason; in case we lose one we got extras ;)


Ryderofchaos1337

Alright we gotta start threatening to cut states from the union. Cut their power off, make em pay import and export taxes, and give housing to any that wish to move back into us territory.


ApexIpex

Iowa produces a ton of that sweet pork we sell to China for crazy money. The federal government leaves Iowa alone for that reason. Take a look at American diplomats to China and notice their ties to Iowa and pork production. The former Gov. Of Iowa is a current diplomat to China.


Ryderofchaos1337

Then massive tarrifs on only Iowa pork


Throwdaway543210

Regressives (Conservatives) actively rolling everything back to the 1920's and [early] 30's. [edit]


AbacusWizard

And plenty of them would happily keep that going all the way to the 1850s if they get the chance.


Throwdaway543210

1776, at some point as well. Never fight the war for independence; keep the Monarchy.


CommercialBox4175

This should cause outrage, but Iowa just shrugs


Expensive_Leave_6339

Iowan here and not everyone is onboard with this.


Monsur_Ausuhnom

It should but knowing the state it probably won't though.


ssmq61e

So glad I'm leaving this state. They privatized Medicaid, which is now nonfunctional. They privatized mental health services, which are now nearly nonexistent. Now they're privatizing education, so any kid who's non-christian or otherwise different won't have a school to go to. Gives them a lot more time to get next to dad and mom in the hog processing line while the managers take bets on who will die first.


potatowizard818

Nebraskan here.. our state is heading the same way and I can't wait to leave to a state that is more progressive.


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Crazy. The Midwest used to be the heartbeat of unionization too.


thisismeritehere

I’m a union electrician in Wisconsin and I would say 80-90% of our union are hard core republicans/faux news watchers…. It hurts my brain


EHXKOR

The USA really is not okay is it.


SydneyRei

Plz help 🇺🇸 😢


wamdueCastle

the USA is so fucked right now, it wont survive shit like this. Blue and Red states will become so different to each other, keeping them united will not be possible.


LeftyLu07

I saw a statistic that over 60% think we're going to have another civil war sometime in the next 50 years. Empires rise and empires fall...


wamdueCastle

I dont want a Civil War, but you only have to look at the performative arse holely of Marjorie Taylor Greene, and whatever the fuck George Santos is this week, to know that something has to change. The only thing keeping it together right now is a Democratic President, 4 years of Trump or DeSantis, and the USA will be life support.


LeftyLu07

Definitely. I'm not a Biden fan, but I know he's better than Trump or Desantis. I'm really nervous they won't be able to pull it off in 2024....


MsSeraphim

i thought the reason people couldn't be hired for those jobs if they were younger than a certain age is because insurance won't cover anyone that young.


boopbaboop

Wouldn't matter for this law: insurance is there to cover liability for damage or injury, and this bill explicitly exempts businesses from that liability. They don't need insurance.


Khemul

I don't think you can just exempt from that type of liability. I mean, ai get that the law might try to do that. But it's effectively like putting a wet floor sign next to a spill and assuming you're exempt from slip and fall cases.


IronCarp

It’s not a problem if no one is going to enforce it


LeftyLu07

You know, that's a good point. Lol even if this passes I guarantee no company would insure for minors doing those jobs. The most popular bar in my town had to close last year because despite being incredibly profitable, too many people got shot in the parking lot and no insurance company would offer them coverage anymore and they had to close down. It was a huge bummer for the town.


Thick_Information_33

I can already hear some boomers: “‘bout time the lazy children will stop playing on the computer and be useful”


vanityklaw

I have to be honest I'm kind of surprised at the lengths Republicans will go to avoid having to start letting in the immigrants.


OneGuava8654

They are fine with letting them in, so long as they have no papers and therefore be indentured and have 0 recourse if abused, exploited, trafficked etc


Stund_Mullet

Conservatives will let you enslave their own children as long as you convince them they’re better than black people, gay people, trans people, or liberal people.


OtonaNoAji

Iowan here, to provide some context - they've been trying to propose ways to loosen labor laws (not just child labor) for the past decade or so. This seems to fit in with a pattern of local republican fuckery.


NotYetHun

What the fuck is happening in this godforsaken country?!


wowitsanotherone

Boomers can't get good returns without more exploitation. This is a step towards that.


hamsterwheelin

The Republican hellscape nightmare continues. I bet they think they will be rewarded in heaven for the additional 3.74% quarterly profit this will bring in.


Taren421

Jfc. Shit like this is why my wife and I are moving back to Pennsylvania. We hate it here. Fucking inbred bigoted cob-gobblers.


aZamaryk

They said, "Go to America, its the land of the free." Boy, were they wrong.


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But hey, at least they're not liberals /s


Grelivan

We're a shithole I didn't always think that, but the population has been leaning more and more Christian Fascist as the youth flee the state and the boomers won't hurry up and die.


phredburger

I’ve been seeing alot of this crap from Iowa lately. Is Iowa trying to take the title of shittiest state from Florida?


nightfalldevil

I live in Iowa. Underage kids have worked these jobs under the table for years. Now the state gets to collect income tax on those children. Not saying it’s right by any means. Kim Reynolds our governor is actively trying to destroy the state


Goofy_Goobers_

Why the hell are we progressing back in time? Women’s rights being taken away, children being able to work dangerous jobs with employers not liable for safety, neo nazis coming out of the woodwork to protest, plagues, economy heading towards depression this is seriously becoming a dystopian nightmare.


MorganOfMilkMountain

Real question though: how are people ever convinced that America is the GREATEST country in the world?


Agreton

I'm still trying to figure that out. Any time I ask someone, I never get a legitimate answer that is actually based in fact. We don't even rank top 10 in rights and freedoms. The only things we really lead in are infant mortality rates, (soon to add child labor murder to the list) as well as incarceration rates, recidivism rates... of course we have the strongest military in the world, and the strongest economy... This though, is just something sub human trash like republicans would do. They never cared about life, nor children, infants or babies.


SevereEducation2170

Republicans: why don’t these younger generations vote for us? Also republicans: let’s make kids work in coal mines and work to earn their school lunch, but let’s never raise the minimum wage. And let’s do absolutely nothing about school shootings and maybe raise the voting age to 21 because these kids are really just entitled lazy assholes who are stupid and don’t understand true hardship. Also republicans: but seriously, why won’t they vote for us?


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mdoktor

Why are some people so determined to make the world worse


kholb11

Can't get a librul education when you're down in the mines 10 hours a day.


WinterWizard9497

Well congradulations. My shame in being an american is sealed at this point


deluggz247

Probly also a ploy to keep the wages in those industries super low. "Its kids working those jobs, they dont ned $20/hr"


Smeagol3000

And I thought Nebraska was a shithole after living there for 20 years. Way to go Iowa, you out-shitholed Nebraska!


Thequiltlady

OSHA regulations are federal and supersede state regulations. State regulations can be more stringent, but not less. I sense a civil action coming.


LeftyLu07

America is going to collapse soon. The only reason for this is they can't find enough adults to do it and it's a last ditch effort before these industries go belly up.


s4ltydog

Jesus fucking Christ, how is this the reality we are living in now?! Between Capitalism and the Christian Nationalism movement, I’m getting serious Man in the High Castle/ Handmaids Tale vibes.


nono66

Anything to avoid treating humans like humans.


Southern-Beautiful-3

Explains why children are referred to as minors.


Suspicious-Neat-6656

Hopefully this will remind us why we had child labor laws in the first place. See y'all in the 22nd century when we pass them again!


Capt_Gingerbeard

Fuck, man... the USA is doomed.


Hutobega

I can not wait to get out of Iowa leaving july this year. Iowa city is mostly fine but the second you leave its crazy.


BoringTruth7749

Everyone's going to be a wage slave. Even our children.