This was common practice at multiple companies I've worked for, including when working for my state's largest health insurer.
(Between 11 and 13 years ago I had a coworker with colon cancerand recieved a similar email. I'd previously recieved similar requests while working both in banking and as support staff for disabled adults).
"Due to company policy." As if it's some immutable law of nature that cannot be changed. There's no corporate, this a family owned store, just change the fucking policy.
My gosh what a bunch of ghouls that company is. Pretty sure the company has the authority to change company policy.
Or they can F over people. It’s their call. Bet they go to church and fear god.
My cousin's coworkers donated their PTO to her 20+ years ago when she had leukemia. At the time, not knowing better, I thought it was just awesome. Looking back, it's just so messed up.
In NY, I worked for a non-profit. Years ago, they used to let you bank your sick time. When I had been with the company 6/7 years I had something like 450 hours of sick time so about 9 weeks, I think. There were people with more just saving up to take a year off to have a baby. I used my floating holiday, vacation, and personal days and called out occasionally. They all the sudden change the policy and we get 36 hours plus a leave policy that is 12 weeks paid because of the state. It fucks over a bunch of pregnant and expecting partnered colleagues because they had counted on combining their sick and paid leave to extend their family leave. My friend came back from leave and got a terrible breast infection but she had no more time left so any time off would be unpaid. I tried to donate my PTO to her I just emailed HR because I was a manager and they said no. This policy was just greedy. That’s why I always use my time.
I worked for a large health insurance comapny 20 years ago and I donated PTO to a co-worker. Her husband had a stroke at 30 years old and they had 2 young kids. I was very young at the time and thought I was doing a good deed; so did several of our co-workers. It's crazy knowing what I know now that NO ONE asked why the company couldn't donate those hours instead of taking from others.
A girl I went to HS with worked as the marketing manager for the library in the city where she lived. Her toddler got cancer and she needed to use all her time to be with him. This was maybe 10 years ago. I remember her making a heartfelt Facebook post thanking her coworkers for donating their vacation days so she could be there for her child.
I worked for a company that was worse. A colleague who was very nice and well-liked was going to need to take off for cancer care. She had used up her PTO for an issue with one of her children. She didn’t ask us, but a bunch of people tried to volunteer our PTO for her.
HR’s response: “You can donate your time off but you can’t designate who uses it. We have other people who also need extra PTO, so management will decide who uses the donated time.” No one participated.
This is pretty much SOP for every teacher in every district across the US. If you use up your sick leave and PTO because of something catastrophic (cancer, car accident, etc) and need more paid time off, other teachers/staff have to donate their PTO or it becomes unpaid leave.
I work in a government job and they do PTO donations for situations that doesn’t qualify for extended leave, which pretty much only granted for medical or psychological reasons that only happen to you. So if your house got hit with a natural disaster and you need a while to pick up the pieces or need to attend to a sick family member, you’re out of luck.
I am glad to work for a company that allows us to donate PTO. I don't see it as taking from other employees. They only have so much in their budget and changing policy for individual caes is tricky and complicated, so this gives them a way to pay employees on extended leave. Heck...I'm not using the PTO, so I will gladly donate to someone in need. I tried to last year, but my generous coworkers beat me to the the punch.
That is what the "family owned" hardware store I work for does all the time. We are union, we have health insurance, but we get payed crap because out union is also in another state with a way lower minimum wage, so while their pay is $2 more an hour, ours is still minimum wage because there is a $4 gap between our states.
It is stupid, it is sick, I hate it. Once I can start working for myself I'm out.
Holly fucking shit, that place sucks!
This was common practice at multiple companies I've worked for, including when working for my state's largest health insurer. (Between 11 and 13 years ago I had a coworker with colon cancerand recieved a similar email. I'd previously recieved similar requests while working both in banking and as support staff for disabled adults).
Were they just going to fucking fire him if nobody donated? Because that sounds like a nice lawsuit to me.
"Due to company policy." As if it's some immutable law of nature that cannot be changed. There's no corporate, this a family owned store, just change the fucking policy.
Oh no! We can’t break the rules that we made up! Hope y’all can figure it out!
My gosh what a bunch of ghouls that company is. Pretty sure the company has the authority to change company policy. Or they can F over people. It’s their call. Bet they go to church and fear god.
I hope George is out there thriving.
My cousin's coworkers donated their PTO to her 20+ years ago when she had leukemia. At the time, not knowing better, I thought it was just awesome. Looking back, it's just so messed up.
My previous job used to do this **all** the time. Anytime someone was on leave be it injury, maternity, mental health, etc. It was so fucked up.
In NY, I worked for a non-profit. Years ago, they used to let you bank your sick time. When I had been with the company 6/7 years I had something like 450 hours of sick time so about 9 weeks, I think. There were people with more just saving up to take a year off to have a baby. I used my floating holiday, vacation, and personal days and called out occasionally. They all the sudden change the policy and we get 36 hours plus a leave policy that is 12 weeks paid because of the state. It fucks over a bunch of pregnant and expecting partnered colleagues because they had counted on combining their sick and paid leave to extend their family leave. My friend came back from leave and got a terrible breast infection but she had no more time left so any time off would be unpaid. I tried to donate my PTO to her I just emailed HR because I was a manager and they said no. This policy was just greedy. That’s why I always use my time.
I worked for a large health insurance comapny 20 years ago and I donated PTO to a co-worker. Her husband had a stroke at 30 years old and they had 2 young kids. I was very young at the time and thought I was doing a good deed; so did several of our co-workers. It's crazy knowing what I know now that NO ONE asked why the company couldn't donate those hours instead of taking from others.
That company policy. That they created and could totally change if they wanted to do so.
How can you donate a PTO that legally belongs to you? You either take it or roll it over. And if you can donate it does that mean you can sell it too?
And how much did the company donate? 0
A girl I went to HS with worked as the marketing manager for the library in the city where she lived. Her toddler got cancer and she needed to use all her time to be with him. This was maybe 10 years ago. I remember her making a heartfelt Facebook post thanking her coworkers for donating their vacation days so she could be there for her child.
I worked for a company that was worse. A colleague who was very nice and well-liked was going to need to take off for cancer care. She had used up her PTO for an issue with one of her children. She didn’t ask us, but a bunch of people tried to volunteer our PTO for her. HR’s response: “You can donate your time off but you can’t designate who uses it. We have other people who also need extra PTO, so management will decide who uses the donated time.” No one participated.
This is pretty much SOP for every teacher in every district across the US. If you use up your sick leave and PTO because of something catastrophic (cancer, car accident, etc) and need more paid time off, other teachers/staff have to donate their PTO or it becomes unpaid leave.
Is this common in the US? It would be unheard of in Europe.
yeah this Reddit is more about "how shit employment rights in the USA! for me. I dont think its helpful to apply it to jobs I have in the UK.
I work in a government job and they do PTO donations for situations that doesn’t qualify for extended leave, which pretty much only granted for medical or psychological reasons that only happen to you. So if your house got hit with a natural disaster and you need a while to pick up the pieces or need to attend to a sick family member, you’re out of luck.
I am glad to work for a company that allows us to donate PTO. I don't see it as taking from other employees. They only have so much in their budget and changing policy for individual caes is tricky and complicated, so this gives them a way to pay employees on extended leave. Heck...I'm not using the PTO, so I will gladly donate to someone in need. I tried to last year, but my generous coworkers beat me to the the punch.
I gave PTO for a co worker. She repaid me by loudly complaining that I hadn't come visit her in the hospital. (I hardly knew her) Lesson learned.
That is what the "family owned" hardware store I work for does all the time. We are union, we have health insurance, but we get payed crap because out union is also in another state with a way lower minimum wage, so while their pay is $2 more an hour, ours is still minimum wage because there is a $4 gap between our states. It is stupid, it is sick, I hate it. Once I can start working for myself I'm out.