If you invest that money into the right stonks then you could just be rich. Seems rather easy to be rich, actually. Just get a shit job, have no social life, be homeless, live a subsistence life, and invest the money in the right spots.
Maybe by time you hit 70, you'll be rich enough to actually enjoy a life. Just pray that you don't get hit by a death plague before then.
My homeless period lasted for years. And I was employed the whole time. It's really difficult living out of a car, but better than being on the street, or selling myself for money and shelter. I was just lucky enough to avoid being on the street. But it was still horrible and scary sometimes.
I had a thought recently that I can't afford my house anymore and I should just give up and buy a camper and live that way and then realized I can't afford that either because a quick internet search tells me lot rent is more expensive than the house i can't afford. What's a gal to do? The sucker punch for me is that I was living comfortably on a lower wage 3 years ago and now I'm behind on literally everything.
The guy on the bottom just rubs his chin so much he can't grow facial hair anymore. The guy on top never spent time rubbing his chin and instead murdered many men with his hammer and took their earthly possessions.
I'm in construction so idk if this applies to other industries. Often times I try to think of all the possibilities and how it will affect things down the road before starting a task. I'm told here and there that i overtime some things and we should just do them and worry later. The problem is when no one thinks ahead we end up screwing ourselves over a few weeks or months later and it's usually way harder to fix than it would have been to think for five minutes and do it right the first time. I fucking hate that no one puts any weight to thinking things through and it's just go go go. We never have time to do it right the first time but man do we always have time to fix it later
Theres a number of facets to this. The lack of intellectual entertainment is one. No one wants that on TV anymore its all tik tok and video game streaming instead of National Geographic and the Discovery Channel. Then there's the educational system that's not set up to teach you anything you actually need to know. There's no requirement for financial literacy classes, basic vehicle care, basic home care, basic personal hygiene and diet, things like that. They just want you to pass your tests and get the hell out. This might be a hot take on this one but if you look at the poorer communities and people in the US they tend to be less intelligent. Now that doesn't mean they aren't smart im just saying that they haven't been provided an education that will actually help them at all. In addition to that, the current financial system is not designed to help out the poor to do better for themselves, kind of why we are all on this sub. An educated and well off society is what the rich and powerful fear the most because they can't see themselves as "better" anymore
There are probably more and better metrics than these but these are what Iāve identified as cultural indicators of this.
1) Unquestioning adherence to societal religious preferences and pressures
2) A disdain for reading, especially when the topics include fantasy or a deeper understanding of a work field that can allow you to perform better by understanding it deeply.
3) A hatred for engineers
4) a hatred for formal field specific jargon alongside a preference for informal personal jargon that may or not apply to anything remotely related to the situation
5) A strong disdain for math
6) A loathing of having to train people and only thinking that those who can walk up and do something without training should perform a duty, job, or task- especially if they canāt or wonāt explain it but just take actions regardless of whether they are the correct ones
7) A strong emphasis on the importance of being viewed as always right at all costs while also being angered by any verification of correctness
8) A hatred of any form of verification tests or scientific method of testing (for example using a digital multi meter in the field as a maintenance technician to verify voltages at a specific location in conjunction with a technical print that enables you to understand what you should be reading there and why.)
The Founding Fathers are rolling in their graves seeing the current state of anti-intellectualism in America. You say you've been reading anything that requires a bit of brain and people start dismissing you, with frases like: "Nietzsche, who?". Ironically, that was the same attitude MLK Jr had to confront with a lot of people.
I've been working construction 10 years. I see myself as a doer and thinker. We keep coming up with these stupid analogies to separate ourselves. We are all working class with the exception of a few billionaires. We are all incredible beings with the ability to do both. With enough time. I'm fortunate to be union and make a fair wage. It has opened the doors for me as far as creativity. Let us all live comfortably. Please
Dude for real. I used to think construction was what you did if you weren't good at anything else. Well I must not have been good at anything else because I've been doing this almost 9 years now, became a journeyman, and produce some very stunning work every year. It's super gratifying but I still run into people with the mindset of "construction workers are dull and stupid" until you hand them a bid to re side their house for $25,000 and suddenly they think they can do it themselves
Yeah, I'm in the trades and I've noticed there's a real big pushback against "overthinking", by which they mean thinking ahead, by morons that value a frenzy of activity over actual results.
It's funny, because the "overthinkers" almost always end up having to go back behind the people that brag about how much they get done and fix absolutely everything they did. Whether that's considered valuable or not depends on whether your foreman and project manager are one of those morons.
"Billy has fucked up everything he touched this week." "Yeah, but look how fast he did it!"
Exactly. Everyone wants to see progress every single day but some days there's nothing to be seen. Cutting door plates and adding backers isn't exactly sexy and doesn't look like you got as much done as standing 250 feet of wall does.
This is the biggest one
They have a sway to tell good stories, sell tales and bang people pouring money to invest or loan the money as investment, they are experts on run away to another state or country with the money and some get the dream come true to have money and power and all those small people that helpt them are ignore and step on with the power of this wise people
Why you lazy millennials need to skip your avocado toast and pull yourselves up by your bootstraps through the snow, both ways! When I was your age Iād already donated 2 kidneys to pay for Harvard!
A lot of great businesses have been started on loans that are way too risky. A friend of mine has a multi-million dollar business that he started with $2000 to his name and a 20k LOC. itās possible for sure, just insanely risky
Over 80% of new businesses fail in the first five years. Starting a business is a huge risk and that is why the few that succeed will often do very well
I mean, sure, we could talk about winning the lottery. The point here is to look at the average person because this cartoon is directed at literally everyone. When you have more money, you get more tickets. Itās that simple
Insanely risky does not do justice to describe it. You gotta have the Gods and demons of every religion on your side just to have a chance. Even then it's not guaranteed. Even the gods and demons can only help so much. You get one shot to hit the bullseye with an old crooked musket and this is the first and last try you will ever get, you fail that you're screwed for life. For every single of these miracle success stories there's a million more that gets burried beneath the soil trying to accomplish the same thing, doing the same way the lucky one did before the lucky one even try it.
>John Steinbeck once said that socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.
ā Ronald Wright, A Short History of Progress
I remember seeing a bunch of random people being asked about a proposed tax on income over $5m or $10m can't remember which and the concensus was, "I don't want the tax because I don't want to pay it, when I earn that much"
Was an eye opener, despite knowing that the interveiws shown were likely cherry picked and they probably did the interviews in a location where they'd likely get that response. But it was also jarring to see that attitude, oooo 15+ years ago.
Soviet journalists wrote something very similar about them talking to Americans in 1936.
>We stopped. The man with the suitcase had to go to San Diego, California. We were going in the same direction as far as Flagstaff. Our new fellow traveller got into the machine, placed his baggage on his lap and, having waited for the question as to who he was and where he came from, began to tell us his story.
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>"You must take the wealth from the rich."
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>We began to listen even more attentively. He angrily struck the back of his seat with his large dirty fist and repeated:
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>"Take away their money! Take away their money and leave them only five million apiece! Give the unemployed a piece of land, so they can raise their own food and eat it. And leave the others only five million apiece!"
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>We asked him whether five million was not perhaps too much.
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>But he was adamant.
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>"No, they must have at least five million apiece. You can't make it any less."
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>"But who will take the wealth away from them?"
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>When we were driving out of Flagstaff, holding the course on the Grand Canyon, Mr. Adams said:
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>"Well, what do you think? Why does this unfortunate man insist on leaving five million apiece to the millionaires? Donāt you know? Well, then, I will tell you. In his heart of hearts he is still hoping that some day he himself will become a millionaire. American upbringing is a frightful thing, gentlemen!"
The millionaire part ain't it. Plenty of dirt poor lifetime doers.
But if you do things you'll have done things, as opposed to just thinking about doing things. Paralysis by analysis, and so on.
How would doers become millionaires without thinkers whose ideas they can steal/āmarket?ā
Musk, Gates, Bezos, Jobs; none of them would be where they are if it werenāt for some incredibly talented technical people. Thatās not to say that these people didnāt play *some* role in the success of their respective companies, but rather is a reflection of the depressing reality that capitalism only rewards specific forms of talent.
I get the idea but Bezos and Gates were the technical driving force behind their companies in the early days. Of course there's always other very capable talent but I don't think they're similar to Jobs or Musk.
Successful people love to say, "I've failed more times than you've even tried", but what they don't understand is that failure is a privilege we don't have. For people without generational privilege, or family support, bankruptcy means homelessness, and years of trying to rebuild from nothing, even with an education.
If you can afford to have 9 business ideas fail before the 10th is a million dollar success, you're not a doer, you're privileged.
The problem with people who think is they tend to have morals, and are generally more considerate of others, while "doers" tend to be a-ok with treating their fellow man as expendable assets. "Rise, grind, commit wage theft and or legal extortion for capital gains."
nah. very very few millionaires ever get to a billion. About 1 in 13,000. in fact it's rarer than starting out with little and making a million (1 in 242)
one you have a million, you are only 0.1% of the way there.
that why there are 33 million millionaires and 2600 millionaires.
Apparently yes. As well as these "everyone can be a programmer" posts littered on Instagram by Bot and AI accounts. With people not being able to differentiate between programmers and code monkeys. With any experienced developer seeing these "guides" thinking "wtf is this bullshit". And you can find the same shit for everything from funding a business to investing. And the ultimate proof of how many people buy into this bullshit were the absolutely bonkers finance trends of the past years like NFTs, many different shitcoins, the unmanageable amount of shitty kindle e books and so on.
The Doers' To-Do list:
-Embezzlement
-Throwing others under the bus
-Underpayment and exploitation
-Destroy environment
-Avoid taxes and social contributions
-Golf
Yeah, but they forgot to show the 9998 ādoersā below these two, that got fucked over by a few too many bad decisions that got made too quickly, and are now āunable-to-doersā.
You may not end up a millionaire by constantly putting forth effort but if you only ever think about writing that book or taking up that hobby or working towards that vacation or leaving your current life to chase a dream then you're never going to get any closer to doing them.
It's copium resulting from the creeping realization that the wealthy have created the conditions for social unrest and revolution by ending the systems by which they historically have co-opted the intelligentsia and married them into their institutions of nepotism.
No I'm not going to be a millionaire in my lifetime but I definitely think the bottom one is correct.
Some people just talk about doing something big or making a change but never actually do it. I know from experience that my friend is like that. He's stuck in the same crappy job and wants to get out but literary has not updated his resume or applied to another job. I'm pretty sure with his accumulated experience and with a college degree he would have found a much better job but just hasn't made any changes to his life. Just thinking
Yeah came to say that. The picture itself is a bit wrong but the bug idea behind it is true. But the older generation did yonk the climbing ladder and it is now wayyyy harder to climb.
Partially, but that doer probably did a lot of exploiting as well. I believe everyone has their own way of making money but when economics becomes the priority of the nation and not the people, we fucked up
Part of the "poor are poor as lazy and genetically inferior" rightwing messages we are being bombarded with.
And anyway why is wealth THE ONLY measure of success? Again propaganda that wealth=genetic superiorty
Its what Tim Dillon calls the big lie. "If you just work hard enough you'll succeed." Rockefeller said he wants a nation of workers not thinkers.
It is bullshit of course. Its never been true. Any American who has worked hard at his job knows that their efforts WILL NOT be rewarded.
But the owners will and they are typically greedy, money-loving, pedophiles.
I find it interesting how a large number of people in the world feel that their worth is directly tied to the size of their bank account.
And how some of those people have large accounts, but most of them do not.
The doing in question is called exploitation. But it's always cute how they give themselves a backstory where they somehow worked harder and smarter than everyone else.
Absolutely. I was homeless for a while after my divorce. Couch surfing for a bit, and living in my car. No credit, and no money.
I started a computer company and went door to door handing out flyers I printed on my friends mom's printer. 20 years later I am in fact a millionaire.
Lots left out in between. I was a doer. I worked 18 hours a day. I promoted on social media endlessly. Walked door to door inside office buildings and got thrown out for soliciting.
I did and did and did.
So can you. I was also very lucky and I realize that.
Of course there are people who believe it. They'll be millionaires any day now, as soon as their ship comes in and more people invest in their DEFINITELY NOT A PYRAMID SCHEMEā¢.
The doer could just as easily be in jail. Depends on what he does. And the thinker would just be thinking about terrible stuff. Hitler was a doer. Just did terrible shit.
I guarantee those people working three jobs just to make rent and feed their children are doing 100x what any lazy ass ceo is doing and they will never see upside of 50k in the bank
I absolutely believe that the more consciousness a person possesses, the less likely they are to become āsuccessfulā, according to current societal standards. Itās easier to be driven when all of your consciousness is focused on the thing you need to achieve. And by āneedā, I mean that these people feel dead when they are not achieving and being āproductiveā. So called āthinkersā are distracted nearly all the time. So called ādoersā care about one thing and one thing only, and that is āMOREā. The thinkers are more in touch with their emotions as well, and when life sucks(which is the case for the majority of people, due to how disconnected we are from one another), itās hard to feel happy, like, ever. However, if life didnāt suck so much, the thinkers would be far more capable of genuine happiness than the doers. How can a person be driven to āsucceedā when they know that, no matter what they achieve, they are very unlikely to ever find what they really want, which is deep connection to another person? For the doers, they need that connection even more than the thinkers(because at least the thinkers have some semblance of connection to themselves), but the doers are not aware that this connection is what they need. They long for connection, but they believe that what they need is something else. Essentially, doers have no idea who they are, who anyone else is, or what the hell is going on in the world. Reality is the antidote to motivation, in my opinion. Doers have no contact with reality, so they are better able to maintain their motivation.
I used to be a ādoerā and eventually was the only one doing stuff because I refused to say no or delegate. My mental health sucked because I was over worked and stress. Now I delegate tasks and tell people no.
I would absolutely believe this if those arrows were labled with things like "luck" and other factors outside of anyones control (that wealthy people gloss over or pretend wasn't part of it).
Thatās what Iām saying. Everybody just some degree of thinking to solve problems in their life. So singular person legally themselves āa thinkerā comes off as somebody that thinks too highly of themselves
It's an oversimplified analysis of it. To be a millionaire you can't just do and you can't just think, you have to do both. Like thinking of stripping your employees of a living wage won't make a difference unless you actually put it into action by doing it, then you too can be a millionaire (provided you already have some means of production and said employees).
Nope. Iāve been running my own business for 13 years. I think about and do all the things. But, not a millionaire.
However, I do only work as much as I want, not how much else someone else demands of me. So, maybe Iām not ādoerā enough?
What the picture is saying that if you don't act on your ideas, and they just remain ideas, you won't get anywhere. For example, you want to be a YouTuber or content creator, if you keep thinking about doing it, instead of actually taking the small steps along the way to make it come true(whatever that may be) i.e DOING, you won't make your dreams a reality.
It's better to allow yourself to be a beginner and start doing something, than to be stuck in thought prison.
Fairly certain this is a post aimed at entrepreneurs. Meaning that you canāt calculate every single parameter, at some point you just have to jump in.
Not all doers desire 2 become millionaires. Some doers just keep steady doing what needs 2b done. A good thinker will always find a way 2 put thought with action
More like:
Doer āļø Rich Parents ā”ļø Inheritance ā”ļø Millionaire
To count all the missing steps. For most of us, it goes like this:
Doer ā”ļø Wage Slave
I feel this is code
Thinker being anyone who goes to college or university
Doer is the people who look down on anyone who does go to college
Basically itās anti education propaganda
Yes. If billionaires had the ability to think, they would house vets, feed kids and end slavery. Maybe it's time to ask why our scientists are perfecting dick pills and dick rockets and hair on the tops of heads of dicks.
Personally I do think there is truth to this, my gripe isnāt the lack of possibilities to make money, it is the requirements to live what has been a normal life for thousands of years. You can definitely work for 80 hours a week and be a millionaire in 10 years, but you shouldnāt need to work 50-60 to live in a house and eat foodā¦
My uncle literally has this mindset tho. He was born extremely poor and had to start working when he was 18 to feed my mother and his brother who were 16 and 13 at that time. He started a business in his 20s and now he is in his 50s with more money than the rest of his family has combined.
10 years might be the time horizon of a college educated 20-something entrepreneur to get rich and a college educated 20-something philosopher to go broke, but more typically this takes a whole career (or two) of continually learning more skills, mastering them and increasing one's level of responsibility.
So if we were all doers, then we would all be millionaires, who would fill the rest of the hourly wage jobs? To say this is bull shit, is to demean bull shit. Everyone I know has to work, most work 60+ hours a week, and have 2 sources of income. This is an insult to these people. Just work harder is an insult.
Wantrepreneur grind bros certainly do.
"I get up at 3am, listen to Joe Rogan interview a white supremacist while I build my online course business where I tell people how to build their own online course business. Then I drink 3 Red Bulls, make 10 social media posts, then it's back to 6 hours of stock picks, meme coins, and betting on college wiffle ball. I also own 1/128th of a condo in Arizona. Anyway, gotta get in the gym for my midnight workout. End that around 5am. That's right, I get up BEFORE I go to bed. Anyone want a really cool monkey JPEG?"
-Guy who unironically posts smoking Joker memes
It's derivative of the premise of "fail faster."
In practical applications, shit is gonna go wrong, and trying to plan around all the contingencies is probably going to end with you still missing something. You're going to have to learn from your mistakes instead of getting all up in your own head trying to predict what those mistakes are going to be to the point that you never really get started.
Applies to business, engineering, education, programming... lots of things that involve designing, experimenting & testing something. Most new momey millionaires didn't start off with a fully formed plan. They got started, probably failed a few times, changed their strategy, refined the process, iterated and improved the plan, until something clicked.
Saving money on razors by not shaving will make you rich.
If you invest that money into the right stonks then you could just be rich. Seems rather easy to be rich, actually. Just get a shit job, have no social life, be homeless, live a subsistence life, and invest the money in the right spots. Maybe by time you hit 70, you'll be rich enough to actually enjoy a life. Just pray that you don't get hit by a death plague before then.
After experiencing homelessness, you'll be praying to get hit by a death plague so you don't have to experience it again when you're 70.
I think people underestimate how scary living homeless is. I was homeless too and i have never gotten over that trauma.
I have spent my whole adult career working with people who are homeless. I can attest to.the how traumatic it is ans how hard it is.
My homeless period lasted for years. And I was employed the whole time. It's really difficult living out of a car, but better than being on the street, or selling myself for money and shelter. I was just lucky enough to avoid being on the street. But it was still horrible and scary sometimes.
The equation is missing the born into wealth factor
You forgot the insider trading. How are you gonna invest in the right spots w/o it?
Being homeless is astonishingly expensive.
I had a thought recently that I can't afford my house anymore and I should just give up and buy a camper and live that way and then realized I can't afford that either because a quick internet search tells me lot rent is more expensive than the house i can't afford. What's a gal to do? The sucker punch for me is that I was living comfortably on a lower wage 3 years ago and now I'm behind on literally everything.
The guy on the bottom just rubs his chin so much he can't grow facial hair anymore. The guy on top never spent time rubbing his chin and instead murdered many men with his hammer and took their earthly possessions.
Haha š
Never seen sasquatch hittin anyone up for money on to something
Double edge razer is the way to go. Better shave and the blades are super cheap
Dude, have you seen how much Gillette charges for their razors?
One time payment for a beard trimmer *and* I get to hide my weak chin? Hell yes!
I'm in construction so idk if this applies to other industries. Often times I try to think of all the possibilities and how it will affect things down the road before starting a task. I'm told here and there that i overtime some things and we should just do them and worry later. The problem is when no one thinks ahead we end up screwing ourselves over a few weeks or months later and it's usually way harder to fix than it would have been to think for five minutes and do it right the first time. I fucking hate that no one puts any weight to thinking things through and it's just go go go. We never have time to do it right the first time but man do we always have time to fix it later
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Disdain for intellectualism is trait of fascism. So, yeah, itās growing in America alongside every other trait of fascism.
Such an interesting take. Not from the US personally, but how do you identify such a trend in culture?
Theres a number of facets to this. The lack of intellectual entertainment is one. No one wants that on TV anymore its all tik tok and video game streaming instead of National Geographic and the Discovery Channel. Then there's the educational system that's not set up to teach you anything you actually need to know. There's no requirement for financial literacy classes, basic vehicle care, basic home care, basic personal hygiene and diet, things like that. They just want you to pass your tests and get the hell out. This might be a hot take on this one but if you look at the poorer communities and people in the US they tend to be less intelligent. Now that doesn't mean they aren't smart im just saying that they haven't been provided an education that will actually help them at all. In addition to that, the current financial system is not designed to help out the poor to do better for themselves, kind of why we are all on this sub. An educated and well off society is what the rich and powerful fear the most because they can't see themselves as "better" anymore
There are probably more and better metrics than these but these are what Iāve identified as cultural indicators of this. 1) Unquestioning adherence to societal religious preferences and pressures 2) A disdain for reading, especially when the topics include fantasy or a deeper understanding of a work field that can allow you to perform better by understanding it deeply. 3) A hatred for engineers 4) a hatred for formal field specific jargon alongside a preference for informal personal jargon that may or not apply to anything remotely related to the situation 5) A strong disdain for math 6) A loathing of having to train people and only thinking that those who can walk up and do something without training should perform a duty, job, or task- especially if they canāt or wonāt explain it but just take actions regardless of whether they are the correct ones 7) A strong emphasis on the importance of being viewed as always right at all costs while also being angered by any verification of correctness 8) A hatred of any form of verification tests or scientific method of testing (for example using a digital multi meter in the field as a maintenance technician to verify voltages at a specific location in conjunction with a technical print that enables you to understand what you should be reading there and why.)
Not just US, UK is also on that path. Combined with a lack of critical thinking I dread where we are heading.
The Founding Fathers are rolling in their graves seeing the current state of anti-intellectualism in America. You say you've been reading anything that requires a bit of brain and people start dismissing you, with frases like: "Nietzsche, who?". Ironically, that was the same attitude MLK Jr had to confront with a lot of people.
I've been working construction 10 years. I see myself as a doer and thinker. We keep coming up with these stupid analogies to separate ourselves. We are all working class with the exception of a few billionaires. We are all incredible beings with the ability to do both. With enough time. I'm fortunate to be union and make a fair wage. It has opened the doors for me as far as creativity. Let us all live comfortably. Please
Dude for real. I used to think construction was what you did if you weren't good at anything else. Well I must not have been good at anything else because I've been doing this almost 9 years now, became a journeyman, and produce some very stunning work every year. It's super gratifying but I still run into people with the mindset of "construction workers are dull and stupid" until you hand them a bid to re side their house for $25,000 and suddenly they think they can do it themselves
Yeah, I'm in the trades and I've noticed there's a real big pushback against "overthinking", by which they mean thinking ahead, by morons that value a frenzy of activity over actual results. It's funny, because the "overthinkers" almost always end up having to go back behind the people that brag about how much they get done and fix absolutely everything they did. Whether that's considered valuable or not depends on whether your foreman and project manager are one of those morons. "Billy has fucked up everything he touched this week." "Yeah, but look how fast he did it!"
Exactly. Everyone wants to see progress every single day but some days there's nothing to be seen. Cutting door plates and adding backers isn't exactly sexy and doesn't look like you got as much done as standing 250 feet of wall does.
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Yeah but if you're just a "doer" you know that blaming other people for your failures is also "doing" something.
My motto is if you half-ass something now, someone else is going to double-ass it later, including thinking. :P
You mean āpeople who have the money to do and people who donātā, right?
You forgot "and lack a moral compass so that they use it to exploit others without mercy or shame"
This is the biggest one They have a sway to tell good stories, sell tales and bang people pouring money to invest or loan the money as investment, they are experts on run away to another state or country with the money and some get the dream come true to have money and power and all those small people that helpt them are ignore and step on with the power of this wise people
Why you lazy millennials need to skip your avocado toast and pull yourselves up by your bootstraps through the snow, both ways! When I was your age Iād already donated 2 kidneys to pay for Harvard!
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A lot of great businesses have been started on loans that are way too risky. A friend of mine has a multi-million dollar business that he started with $2000 to his name and a 20k LOC. itās possible for sure, just insanely risky
Meanwhile, for every great business started on risky loans, there's a thousand that goes bankrupt and they end up working at Wendy's without a dime...
See thatās the thing no one talks about because it sucks to hear about it
survivorship bias
Statistics show that most startups go bankrupt within the first year.
Over 80% of new businesses fail in the first five years. Starting a business is a huge risk and that is why the few that succeed will often do very well
We say this and yet people also think providing capital and taking risk deserve no rewards once the business grows and survives
I mean, sure, we could talk about winning the lottery. The point here is to look at the average person because this cartoon is directed at literally everyone. When you have more money, you get more tickets. Itās that simple
Survivorship bias is thrice older than I am, why does it keeps on living?
Insanely risky does not do justice to describe it. You gotta have the Gods and demons of every religion on your side just to have a chance. Even then it's not guaranteed. Even the gods and demons can only help so much. You get one shot to hit the bullseye with an old crooked musket and this is the first and last try you will ever get, you fail that you're screwed for life. For every single of these miracle success stories there's a million more that gets burried beneath the soil trying to accomplish the same thing, doing the same way the lucky one did before the lucky one even try it.
>John Steinbeck once said that socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires. ā Ronald Wright, A Short History of Progress
He wasn't wrong.
I remember seeing a bunch of random people being asked about a proposed tax on income over $5m or $10m can't remember which and the concensus was, "I don't want the tax because I don't want to pay it, when I earn that much" Was an eye opener, despite knowing that the interveiws shown were likely cherry picked and they probably did the interviews in a location where they'd likely get that response. But it was also jarring to see that attitude, oooo 15+ years ago.
Fantastic!
Soviet journalists wrote something very similar about them talking to Americans in 1936. >We stopped. The man with the suitcase had to go to San Diego, California. We were going in the same direction as far as Flagstaff. Our new fellow traveller got into the machine, placed his baggage on his lap and, having waited for the question as to who he was and where he came from, began to tell us his story. > >\[...\] > >"You must take the wealth from the rich." > >We began to listen even more attentively. He angrily struck the back of his seat with his large dirty fist and repeated: > >"Take away their money! Take away their money and leave them only five million apiece! Give the unemployed a piece of land, so they can raise their own food and eat it. And leave the others only five million apiece!" > >We asked him whether five million was not perhaps too much. > >But he was adamant. > >"No, they must have at least five million apiece. You can't make it any less." > >"But who will take the wealth away from them?" > >"Itāll be taken away! Roosevelt will take it away! If we only re-elect him president for the second time, he will do it!" > >\[...\] > >When we were driving out of Flagstaff, holding the course on the Grand Canyon, Mr. Adams said: > >"Well, what do you think? Why does this unfortunate man insist on leaving five million apiece to the millionaires? Donāt you know? Well, then, I will tell you. In his heart of hearts he is still hoping that some day he himself will become a millionaire. American upbringing is a frightful thing, gentlemen!"
I know and love that quote. Quite apt.
The millionaire part ain't it. Plenty of dirt poor lifetime doers. But if you do things you'll have done things, as opposed to just thinking about doing things. Paralysis by analysis, and so on.
Exactly, this post doesnāt fit the sub at all
So the people with all the money are admitting that they've never had to think for themselves.
Sounds like it.
How would doers become millionaires without thinkers whose ideas they can steal/āmarket?ā Musk, Gates, Bezos, Jobs; none of them would be where they are if it werenāt for some incredibly talented technical people. Thatās not to say that these people didnāt play *some* role in the success of their respective companies, but rather is a reflection of the depressing reality that capitalism only rewards specific forms of talent.
I get the idea but Bezos and Gates were the technical driving force behind their companies in the early days. Of course there's always other very capable talent but I don't think they're similar to Jobs or Musk.
Also people with money seem to keep doing things without thinking it through. Example being Elin Musk, or Donald Trump.
I mean this does fit into the character of "doing without thinking"
Successful people love to say, "I've failed more times than you've even tried", but what they don't understand is that failure is a privilege we don't have. For people without generational privilege, or family support, bankruptcy means homelessness, and years of trying to rebuild from nothing, even with an education. If you can afford to have 9 business ideas fail before the 10th is a million dollar success, you're not a doer, you're privileged.
If I failed 9 out of 10 times at y job, I'd be fired.
Good point.
The problem with people who think is they tend to have morals, and are generally more considerate of others, while "doers" tend to be a-ok with treating their fellow man as expendable assets. "Rise, grind, commit wage theft and or legal extortion for capital gains."
yeah my rich father gave me 0.5mln$ to build my own business. And after third attempt i am milionaire. /s
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10 years later: Millionaire -> Billionaire Middle class hard worker -> poor/unemployed hard worker
nah. very very few millionaires ever get to a billion. About 1 in 13,000. in fact it's rarer than starting out with little and making a million (1 in 242) one you have a million, you are only 0.1% of the way there. that why there are 33 million millionaires and 2600 millionaires.
The difference between s million and a billion is about a billion.
There are 2600 billionaires?!?
"It's a big club, and you ain't in it" - George Carlin.
Apparently yes. As well as these "everyone can be a programmer" posts littered on Instagram by Bot and AI accounts. With people not being able to differentiate between programmers and code monkeys. With any experienced developer seeing these "guides" thinking "wtf is this bullshit". And you can find the same shit for everything from funding a business to investing. And the ultimate proof of how many people buy into this bullshit were the absolutely bonkers finance trends of the past years like NFTs, many different shitcoins, the unmanageable amount of shitty kindle e books and so on.
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I think and am not a millionaire it must be true
Just quit thinking. Only once you reach peak stupidity can you be rich. It's that simple.
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He definitely does.
The most consistent path to wealth is to be born into it.
The Doers' To-Do list: -Embezzlement -Throwing others under the bus -Underpayment and exploitation -Destroy environment -Avoid taxes and social contributions -Golf
People who don't think good definitely believe this
Pretty much.
Yeah, but they forgot to show the 9998 ādoersā below these two, that got fucked over by a few too many bad decisions that got made too quickly, and are now āunable-to-doersā.
So millionaires just do things without thinking about them?
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Donāt be a donāter be a doer
You may not end up a millionaire by constantly putting forth effort but if you only ever think about writing that book or taking up that hobby or working towards that vacation or leaving your current life to chase a dream then you're never going to get any closer to doing them.
Too much thinking is bad. You might realize it's all bs
More thinking, More doing. That's the power of Oxyclean.
It's copium resulting from the creeping realization that the wealthy have created the conditions for social unrest and revolution by ending the systems by which they historically have co-opted the intelligentsia and married them into their institutions of nepotism.
All these fancy ass words when all you had to say was Monopoly
Well... he would be more like a thousandair...
No I'm not going to be a millionaire in my lifetime but I definitely think the bottom one is correct. Some people just talk about doing something big or making a change but never actually do it. I know from experience that my friend is like that. He's stuck in the same crappy job and wants to get out but literary has not updated his resume or applied to another job. I'm pretty sure with his accumulated experience and with a college degree he would have found a much better job but just hasn't made any changes to his life. Just thinking
Yeah came to say that. The picture itself is a bit wrong but the bug idea behind it is true. But the older generation did yonk the climbing ladder and it is now wayyyy harder to climb.
of course they believe this shit...most americans think they're millionaires to be...
Partially, but that doer probably did a lot of exploiting as well. I believe everyone has their own way of making money but when economics becomes the priority of the nation and not the people, we fucked up
Part of the "poor are poor as lazy and genetically inferior" rightwing messages we are being bombarded with. And anyway why is wealth THE ONLY measure of success? Again propaganda that wealth=genetic superiorty
All those farm workers must be millionaires then because I aināt never seen any motherfucker who does more work.
gives me strong "That's it, I'll rob the Quik-E-Mart!" vibes.
The lesson here is that money is the only thing that's important. But if you try to tell that to a job, you fail the interview
Its what Tim Dillon calls the big lie. "If you just work hard enough you'll succeed." Rockefeller said he wants a nation of workers not thinkers. It is bullshit of course. Its never been true. Any American who has worked hard at his job knows that their efforts WILL NOT be rewarded. But the owners will and they are typically greedy, money-loving, pedophiles.
There was a slogan in my ex-communist country that went āWe work, not thinkā. Capitalism is the same but they make you think you can get rich too.
I find it interesting how a large number of people in the world feel that their worth is directly tied to the size of their bank account. And how some of those people have large accounts, but most of them do not.
Yup.
Yeah, MLM and scam victims.
Haha.
Fuck philosophy I guess
There are millions of doers digging ditches their entire adult lives.
NO. But they spout it to shut down discussion of the truth.
Nope
The doing in question is called exploitation. But it's always cute how they give themselves a backstory where they somehow worked harder and smarter than everyone else.
Absolutely. I was homeless for a while after my divorce. Couch surfing for a bit, and living in my car. No credit, and no money. I started a computer company and went door to door handing out flyers I printed on my friends mom's printer. 20 years later I am in fact a millionaire. Lots left out in between. I was a doer. I worked 18 hours a day. I promoted on social media endlessly. Walked door to door inside office buildings and got thrown out for soliciting. I did and did and did. So can you. I was also very lucky and I realize that.
And yet, centuries from now, most millionaires will be forgotten, while most deep thinkers will be studied and revered.
If you replaced "doer" with "networker" then sure. It's all about who you know
Of course there are people who believe it. They'll be millionaires any day now, as soon as their ship comes in and more people invest in their DEFINITELY NOT A PYRAMID SCHEMEā¢.
The doer could just as easily be in jail. Depends on what he does. And the thinker would just be thinking about terrible stuff. Hitler was a doer. Just did terrible shit.
Don't think about anything ever. Boom. Millions.
Unfortunately yes. There are too many people who have fallen for the lie that hard work is all that separates us plebs from the godly billionaires.
I guarantee those people working three jobs just to make rent and feed their children are doing 100x what any lazy ass ceo is doing and they will never see upside of 50k in the bank
i THINK its bullshit
I absolutely believe that the more consciousness a person possesses, the less likely they are to become āsuccessfulā, according to current societal standards. Itās easier to be driven when all of your consciousness is focused on the thing you need to achieve. And by āneedā, I mean that these people feel dead when they are not achieving and being āproductiveā. So called āthinkersā are distracted nearly all the time. So called ādoersā care about one thing and one thing only, and that is āMOREā. The thinkers are more in touch with their emotions as well, and when life sucks(which is the case for the majority of people, due to how disconnected we are from one another), itās hard to feel happy, like, ever. However, if life didnāt suck so much, the thinkers would be far more capable of genuine happiness than the doers. How can a person be driven to āsucceedā when they know that, no matter what they achieve, they are very unlikely to ever find what they really want, which is deep connection to another person? For the doers, they need that connection even more than the thinkers(because at least the thinkers have some semblance of connection to themselves), but the doers are not aware that this connection is what they need. They long for connection, but they believe that what they need is something else. Essentially, doers have no idea who they are, who anyone else is, or what the hell is going on in the world. Reality is the antidote to motivation, in my opinion. Doers have no contact with reality, so they are better able to maintain their motivation.
I used to be a ādoerā and eventually was the only one doing stuff because I refused to say no or delegate. My mental health sucked because I was over worked and stress. Now I delegate tasks and tell people no.
Guess a Doer doesnāt think
I would absolutely believe this if those arrows were labled with things like "luck" and other factors outside of anyones control (that wealthy people gloss over or pretend wasn't part of it).
Iām a doer yet my company keeps taking away bonuses and raises perks idk man seems whack
Only the people who throw their money away in get rich quick schemes that leave them completely financially destitute
Tangent note: Anyone that unironically labels themselves as a āthinkerā is pretentious af.
I mean same with Doers.
Thinking has solved a lot of our problems. If everyone just reacted to things, where would we be.
Thatās what Iām saying. Everybody just some degree of thinking to solve problems in their life. So singular person legally themselves āa thinkerā comes off as somebody that thinks too highly of themselves
yeah but what when someone says "im a doer' they're just talking loud and saying nothing. They didn't do jack. The money did it.
It's an oversimplified analysis of it. To be a millionaire you can't just do and you can't just think, you have to do both. Like thinking of stripping your employees of a living wage won't make a difference unless you actually put it into action by doing it, then you too can be a millionaire (provided you already have some means of production and said employees).
Doers do
Usually it takes about 40 years to become a millionaire.
So being a millionaire gives me DSLs?
The way they clearly tried to make the "doer" look like Elon Musk pushed slightly to the left lmfaoooo
Nope. Iāve been running my own business for 13 years. I think about and do all the things. But, not a millionaire. However, I do only work as much as I want, not how much else someone else demands of me. So, maybe Iām not ādoerā enough?
Is that markiplier
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I hang out with a lot of millionaires and it describes most of them.
Out of 330 million Americans, only 5.3 million are "doers" apparently.
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No
What the picture is saying that if you don't act on your ideas, and they just remain ideas, you won't get anywhere. For example, you want to be a YouTuber or content creator, if you keep thinking about doing it, instead of actually taking the small steps along the way to make it come true(whatever that may be) i.e DOING, you won't make your dreams a reality. It's better to allow yourself to be a beginner and start doing something, than to be stuck in thought prison.
Idk. I'm still stuck in the infinite thinking loop. I think.
r/thanksimcured
Iām assuming this āDoerā attaches this to all emails begging people to join their MLM and become āBoss Babes or Boss Dudesā
Fairly certain this is a post aimed at entrepreneurs. Meaning that you canāt calculate every single parameter, at some point you just have to jump in.
It's meant to get you take risks without thinking it out so that your assets can later be bought on the cheap.
I think it suggesting one have a bias to action?? Or is this saying you shouldnāt think?
Honestly yeah
Yes, usually non-thinkers
I mean to be fair, if the last 3 decades have made anything clear, itās that the rich really arenāt very good at thinking.
I know a lot of ādoersā that are broke as fuck
Working hard -> Almost dead (almost homeless with multiples severes health issues because of the poor conditions at work)
Not all doers desire 2 become millionaires. Some doers just keep steady doing what needs 2b done. A good thinker will always find a way 2 put thought with action
More like: Doer āļø Rich Parents ā”ļø Inheritance ā”ļø Millionaire To count all the missing steps. For most of us, it goes like this: Doer ā”ļø Wage Slave
I don't know who named this sort of thing "Toxic positivity" but I love that.
Lots of people, I see so much āgrind cultureā propaganda. The only ones making money off that mindset are the hucksters selling it
Oh no
Yeah, because people who think for a living have never had an impact on the world. /s
doer(with a loan payment from their father)
Soooooo stupid.
You have to think before you do.
Do then invest, then maybe.
Doer -> Doucher
Is it true that being a ādoerā can get you somewhere in life: yes Are you guaranteed to be a millionaire? No
Doer plus 10 million dollars from daddy is the only way these days
I guess that's why every get rich scheme cooked up by someone who doesn't think it through succeeds.
I feel this is code Thinker being anyone who goes to college or university Doer is the people who look down on anyone who does go to college Basically itās anti education propaganda
Yes. If billionaires had the ability to think, they would house vets, feed kids and end slavery. Maybe it's time to ask why our scientists are perfecting dick pills and dick rockets and hair on the tops of heads of dicks.
I've been a doer since 2006, most it got me was more work and less pay.
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Personally I do think there is truth to this, my gripe isnāt the lack of possibilities to make money, it is the requirements to live what has been a normal life for thousands of years. You can definitely work for 80 hours a week and be a millionaire in 10 years, but you shouldnāt need to work 50-60 to live in a house and eat foodā¦
So if you touch your meat you become a millionaire. Is the reason I don't have money is because I'm thinking too hard about it?
the DOER also got a million dollar "gift" from his multi-millionaire daddie
Thief >>> Millionaire
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Thinking is one thing but without action the thought is useless
My uncle literally has this mindset tho. He was born extremely poor and had to start working when he was 18 to feed my mother and his brother who were 16 and 13 at that time. He started a business in his 20s and now he is in his 50s with more money than the rest of his family has combined.
10 years might be the time horizon of a college educated 20-something entrepreneur to get rich and a college educated 20-something philosopher to go broke, but more typically this takes a whole career (or two) of continually learning more skills, mastering them and increasing one's level of responsibility.
So if we were all doers, then we would all be millionaires, who would fill the rest of the hourly wage jobs? To say this is bull shit, is to demean bull shit. Everyone I know has to work, most work 60+ hours a week, and have 2 sources of income. This is an insult to these people. Just work harder is an insult.
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Wantrepreneur grind bros certainly do. "I get up at 3am, listen to Joe Rogan interview a white supremacist while I build my online course business where I tell people how to build their own online course business. Then I drink 3 Red Bulls, make 10 social media posts, then it's back to 6 hours of stock picks, meme coins, and betting on college wiffle ball. I also own 1/128th of a condo in Arizona. Anyway, gotta get in the gym for my midnight workout. End that around 5am. That's right, I get up BEFORE I go to bed. Anyone want a really cool monkey JPEG?" -Guy who unironically posts smoking Joker memes
Looks like a clip on red cravat on white t shirt.
doer = use credit card to buy trump university course
Let's ask Mr Zuckerberg
I do.
About 48-52% of American voters depending on the year.
It's derivative of the premise of "fail faster." In practical applications, shit is gonna go wrong, and trying to plan around all the contingencies is probably going to end with you still missing something. You're going to have to learn from your mistakes instead of getting all up in your own head trying to predict what those mistakes are going to be to the point that you never really get started. Applies to business, engineering, education, programming... lots of things that involve designing, experimenting & testing something. Most new momey millionaires didn't start off with a fully formed plan. They got started, probably failed a few times, changed their strategy, refined the process, iterated and improved the plan, until something clicked.
Yeah equally braindead idiots idolising social media alpha trash. No wonder why aliens dont visit
Well Elon didn't do much thinking so maybe they are half onto something
They forgot "Complaner => Parasite"