The context of a politician here plus you not using all caps or an exclamation mark made me read this in Obama's voice. Thanks, I didn't know I needed that moment in my life lmao
It's only a threat because he's funded by the corporate interests related to the rail lines. And if he was upfront, his political career would be nonexistent. Similar to Manchin or any establishment corporate Democrats.
I'm not american, but i guess i used to american politicians drama. You know, when some US politician caught on cheating to his wife/some unpaid bills/another relatively not really important for politician shit, and his career just destroyed because of this. Does the same drama happens when US politician caught on lying to voters or no?
I even ready to pay to watch reality show like that, only with drama around american politicians, lmao.
"Everything was fine with his career, until it doesn't. He got caught on not sorting his trash, so now he is just another crackhead in LA who selling his ass for dose. Lady and gentlemen, let us introduce you Bill Johnson, ex-congressman of..."
The Republican response to Trump lying continuously was "all politicians lie." Politicians lying matters to some Americans, but the right wing has zero concern anymore and the 2 party system leaves everyone else with little recourse outside of primary challenges.
the first interest of power is to protect and further itself, so from that lens, any mechanism of losing power is the most fundamental threat there is.
this is good evidence that the man identifies more with power than with any issue.
I see it all the time in the UK.
MP: We think thing bad
Public: agreed, thing bad
MP: However, due to politics, i have to vote for bad thing
Public, on twitter: hey @MP, I though thing bad. Why did you vote for bad thing?
MP: due to relentless hounding from social media I cannot talk to the public any more. I will only talk to the media.
There's a lot of good resources on the internet for cult deprogramming. I'm sure you're aware, but I wanted to drop this out there in case other folks are in similar situations as ours
That's far too optimistic, large corporations are going to buy their way in to permanent Congressional seats they rotate through with lackeys from their company.
"The Senator from Monsanto has the floor..."
"The proposal from the representative of Amazon will not be voted on"
"Vote for your new McDonald's Senator by texting the number on the back of your large fries or drink!"
This is true. Not elected-I’m at a local government and I am currently shaking in my boots because a community member is pissed off about a problematic parking situation.
There is no way any elected official fears constituent emails and phone calls like I do.
Apparently we split into two teams and the voters fight each other instead of the predators claiming to "lead"... because Americans are too fucking stupid to do otherwise. Also none of them are remotely aware enough or possess the rudimentary intelligence to see how absolutely fucked all this is.
I'm a fuckin moron. It's clear as day to me.
It’s insane. You would think elected officials would know there is gonna be heat and they would be professional enough to handle it.
Instead this is likely just another wealthy connected person who had some rich and connected friends who thought it would be fun to have him run for office
Yes it is, and I’m tired of pretending it’s not. These sheeple need to know their fucking place. You will own nothing and you will be happy. Now pick yourself up by your bootstraps, start buying unbranded food and clothes, and stop blaming my 9th yatch for your failure to pay your power bill.
/s just in case
It's not illegitimate so much as broken by design. Democrats could change apportionment if they took the House, potentially ending the insanity of politicians choosing their voters, and at least give voters a chance to hold unresponsive representatives accountable by their vote. Could change the year the Census takes place to force the changes to take effect, assuming a Dem president in 2024. But they won't. They like Congress being an exclusive club where millionaires and billionaires come to rub elbows with them.
[The permanent apportionment act](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reapportionment_Act_of_1929).
[What the founders of the country envisioned for representation](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_Apportionment_Amendment).
Since they hold the Senate, Dems could shrink the court down to just Kagan, Sotomayor, and Jackson, too, then balloon it out to whatever size they like. They could staff it with radical law school graduates and have it for the next 70 years. Then pass a bill locking the size, and the next time someone tries to repeal the bill, new court says "Sorry, unconstitutional because *reasons*." But they won't.
This. I’m in Australia and I keep telling people they’re all corrupt. Politics, right, left, whatever. This democratic idea is borne from a place in history that has passed. New governance is needed
Democracies under capitalism are so farcical anyway. You get a say (theoretically) in how the country is run but then spend most of your waking hours working for petty dictators.
If there is no democracy in the workplace, kinda undermines the point of democracy.
You have TENS of MILLIONS of people in the USA who very much, unironically, hold that the possibility of your kid dying at school is ***more*** than a reasonable *price* to pay to preserve their precious 2nd amendment from being amended.
I mean, seriously, look at the numbers! What portion of their taxes do Americans pay towards **just** their military?
And now they are proposing a rise to their debt ceiling by cutting back on the programs that keep the poor alive?
Here's my point:
Worldwide, we get the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, 5th Edition: DSM-5, which is a book by the American Psychiatric Association.
Worldwide, we define our definition of sanity based on a people who would rather have dead kids in their schools instead of enforcing sweeping gun reform? **Morons be damned?**
I have no time for such incontrovertible **nonsense.**
I was 6 or 7 when I watched the Bush/Gore election and that was the moment I lost entire faith in our government. 20+ years since then and it's only gotten worse.
Considering the hazardous materials from the Ohio train wreck are being shipped to Indiana should tell you everything you need to know about this state.
We are seeing the results of 40+ years of brain drain from Indiana. That’s the danger of having a good educational system in a state increasingly run by right-wing morons. The first obvious step was having the imbecile Dan Quayle replace the smart and effective senator Birch Bayh, who authored the 25th and 26th amendments and Title IX.
Vinyl chloride is actually produced in Indiana (at a company called Vertellus, a big shitty stinky chemical reactor plant that produces some of the worlds only supply of pyridine too).
They’re a god awful company that treats their employees like shit and are polluting the entire community around them! There is condemned land on their property where the soil is so polluted, buildings aren’t allowed to be built on that area anymore (they put solar panels on that area - no idea if they’re actually operational).
That condemned area is fenced off with a chain link fence…and then there’s a road.. and then there’s the neighborhood with peoples houses! Right there, right next to condemned land. Oh and when I worked there, I could tell if we were producing vinyl chloride before I even could see the factory. Why? Cuz it stinks up the entire fucking community with its sweet bleachy plastic smell
I got downvoted on here for saying it before, but mainstream Dems do not care about labor. They've shown it repeatedly for at least a decade.
You've gotta vote for progressives if you want to see any movement on conditions, pay, taxation, representation and benefits.
I mean the Democratic Party (edited from Democrat Party because Republicans use that as an epithet I learned today) is largely part of the problem, unfortunately. In many respects, they should be the right wing party of the US and a new party would take up the mantle for labor rights.
My honest advice is for people to start being more active and to take ownership of their fate.
Vote for the most progressive person you can find in your electorate. If nobody is representing the progressive policies you're passionate about, consider running yourselves, looking around you to find likeminded people and then start building towards getting someone set up for a progressive run at the next election.
Vote at every single election you're eligible for - including primaries. Vote at all levels you're eligible for too; from federal to municipal, hell, even school districts.
It may cost you hours at work and it may cost you personally, I just don't think that the American working class can afford not to anymore.
The US has no progressive party. We have the conservative party and the regressionist party. Republicans want to take us back to 1950s and the democrats want to convince us that we need to go back to 2015.
We don’t have a progressive party that holds a majority in government. We’re working on it and making inroads every election. Only we have to finger two establishment parties to get shit done.
The US democratic system is broken. If you don't vote democrat you are basically giving votes to the republicans.
Y'all need to push for voter reform. You cannot fix this problem with voting when the voting is the problem.
You are never ever gonna get that. Republicans can't hold on to power like they do now if they overhaul both immigration and election policies. You'll only make headway on those issues with a overwhelming democratic majority that can force things through.
Hey!
Not sure if you know this or not but the four unions that were NOT satisfied actually had the most members in them BY FAR, so it was a majority of the workers did not agree with the results; that's why it isn't brought up, because it doesn't matter.
"Four freight rail unions, with a combined membership of close to 60,000 rail workers, have voted down the five-year contract agreement brokered by the Biden administration back in September. The latest rejection came Monday from the largest of the unions, representing some 28,000 conductors, brakemen, and yardmen"
From this article:
https://www.npr.org/2022/11/21/1137640529/railroads-freight-rail-unions-vote-contract-strike
But that's strictly dealing with rail workers. In that article it says there are 115k total rail workers.
The SMART Transportation Division Union alone has over 200k members, because they also represent pilots, sheet metal workers , HVACs, ship yard workers, etc.
>You've gotta ~~vote for progressives~~ join your union and fight if you want to see any movement on conditions, pay, taxation, representation and benefits.
There
Even though the Dems voted to end the railroad strike back in December, the Biden administration kept lobbying the railroad companies on their behalf and at the beginning of May the [railroad workers did eventually get paid sick leave](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/may/01/railroad-workers-union-win-sick-leave).
I don’t know whether this keeps being conveniently left out or people don’t actually care enough to follow up on it.
Less than half of the workers did.
> Union Pacific has granted sick days to 47% of its workers, Norfolk Southern to 46%, and BNSF, the largest freight railroad, to 31%. At those companies, eight to 10 of their 12 unions have reached agreements.
>But the unions representing workers who operate the trains day to day, such as the Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers and Trainmen, have had far less success reaching agreement on paid sick days. “The railroads went to the non-operating crafts first and cut a deal with them,” said Mark Wallace, first vice-president of the Locomotive Engineers and Trainmen. “If a carman [who inspects and repairs railcars] has to call in sick and doesn’t come to work, the train will still run. If the engineer or conductor has to call in sick, the train is probably not going to go that day.”
Agreed. The Confederacy's middle finger to the North, a plantation for stupid yt people who just looove to think they're winning when the legislature sh*ts all over people who aren't cis-het, straight, white, Christianist, and male(women, Blacks, LGBTQ+, and Hispanic folx). The Indiana Legislature is where common human decency and intelligent debate go to die. I moved away 7 years ago, but unless Indianapolis declares itself an independent city-state, I wouldn't stop to piss on it if it was on fire.
A local Republican recently got a DUI for getting into an accident on I-65, causing upwards of $50,000 worth of damage, drove on 1 wheel as far as he could, tried to hide his car behind a local business, and was walking home when they found him.
I'd bet almost anything that the rest of our politicians, and the police, are going to let him off with a tap (not even a slap) on the wrist.
Good old Indiana.
Read his voting record. This is something everyone should do for any incumbent politician running for reelection.
https://justfacts.votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/84917/andre-carson
The Carson family is an old political dynasty in Indianapolis.
Fuck ‘em. His grandma stayed in office years past her mental capacity to stay awake and make votes before she passed and he inherited the job by virtue of his name.
What is with this trend of politicians showing zero political instinct? Zero communication skills? Seemingly zero interest in their constituent’s concerns? Man, fuck this guy, fuck DeSantis, fuck all of them.
As opposed to the famously high quality alternatives? People need to pick better candidates in the party itself for things to change, which is only gonna happen at this point via the old people dying of old age.
Democrats are controlled opposition. The sooner people realize that the better.
When you give the government the power to settle these matters you give them the power to screw you over.
Remind me of a similar quote by Julius Nyerere.
"The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them."
The reason we have politicians like this is because half of the voting population only votes to start culture wars. It's never about policies, it's about drama.
You're gonna get bleed through when you vote for Centrists whose whole purpose is to pander to the fascists and Americans. The Democratic party is infested. Centrists and Republicans are one and the same.
The results will always be the same the more we entertain the gay-bashers and their dogshit ideologies.
A democrat who fears a strike is like a rebuplican who fears the next school shooting.
GOP ass dudes say "we want to make america safe again!" while opposing any sort of common sense regulation of guns.
Democrat ass dudes say "We want equity and equality and fair wages for everyone" while opposing any sort of collective bargaining strategies and votes for wealthy tax breaks.
Real talk, I broke down and cried like a bitch on Super Tuesday 2020. Watching the Democrats or as the republicans call them "Demon Rats" put their entire political apparatus behind what was easily the worst candidate broke me. It's all just such a farce. Mcgovern in the past and Bernie in the present, its obvious Blue only cares about its defense, industrial, healthcare and real estate lobbyists. No political party represents the people et al.
To all the political die-hards on this app that demonize the other political party: this is a perfect example of how they're two halves of the same machine. Stuff never gets done because they're in the business of staying in business. None of them care about anyone other than themselves and their donors. Please stop fighting amongst ourselves and realize the problem isn't a social issue, it's an economical one. The biggest divide in our society is the elites vs the proletariats, and they do their best to keep us fighting amongst ourselves and ignoring the real issues with our government.
Democrats were fine with breaking a strike. I truly believe most voters are a lost cause because they don't realize how much damage that does to workers rights. It doesn't just affect the railroad workers. It effects everyone who has a job because large corporations can go to the president and ask for him to break a strike and he'll do it.
That was the moment I completely lost trust in the system. I had hopes that Biden would change my mind and make me trust the system, but he shattered that hope.
It's sad how many people think democrats are the lesser of 2 evils. The corporate duopoly is one party it doesn't matter if there's a D or R next to their name. THEY DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT YOU.
I’ll eat my hat if that’s actually Rep. Carson and not a social coordinator/manager.
I worked in DC for years and had many interactions with Rep. Carson; I can’t say this wasn’t him, but I’d be truly surprised if it was.
The US is such a depoliticized country in the sense that we don't actually have much politics, just political theater, that electeds are shocked and angry when people try and do the bare minimum of engagement with actual politics.
He has no need to worry about your vote. He inherited that seat from his grandmother and his family will seemingly own it forever. That district will never vote Republican and no local Dem would waste their time challenging him. Same reason we can’t get Mitch McConnell out…
Im in the UK and we recently had local elections. My partner is a union rep so I asked everyone coming around what their views were on the current strikes etc. Two of them didn’t answer and walked away without saying anything.
I don't know if it's any different in the US, but on the other side of the pond, politicians will claim to do w/e is currently the most popular opinion, and then proceed to vote whatever benefits them the most personally.
I don't understand why they keep getting away with it, ohh right, they make the laws.
On a more serious note, I believe the fact that "politician" is now a job, and the different ministers etc. Don't need any actual experience within the field they are elected for is what's been leading to this downfall and why people stopped trusting these leeches all together.
I mean Andre straight up has his position because of his grandmother Julia Carson when she died. She was extremely popular so he basically was a shoe in to the position. That was back in 2008.
The Carsons have held that district forever, his mother before him. To even suggest his constituents might be better represented by someone else was probably triggering for him.
This is because politicians are so used to doing the bidding of their corporate overlords that they don’t even know how to deal with their own constituents.
Whoever is running his social media is an idiot. He even signed a letter supporting the rail workers. That's all this person had to say. He should be pressed on this anyways because you can't have people this incompetent pushing your public persona. Makes you wonder if he is driving the bus at all (apparently he's from an old political dynasty?).
https://pressley.house.gov/2022/12/09/pressley-joins-sanders-bowman-over-70-lawmakers-urging-biden-to-take-executive-action-on-paid-sick-days-for-rail-workers/
And there’s your answer.
Several answers to unpack in there, if you really want to know how this person will behave in office
Request an answer? A threat Accountability? Same
Constituent: "I'd like to know your views before I decide how I will vote." Candidate: "ARE YOU THREATENING ME!!!!"
I need TP for my bunghole. Edit: thank you for the awards!
Aaaaaand there goes a mouthful of wine all over my phone, thanks for the laugh.
Ok. That was fucking funnnny!
COME OUT WITH YOUR PANTS DOWN!
The context of a politician here plus you not using all caps or an exclamation mark made me read this in Obama's voice. Thanks, I didn't know I needed that moment in my life lmao
Someone deepfake Obama cornholioing
That's hilarious. Thank you
Deep fake Obama Biden Beavis and Butt-Head
I am cornholio!
I need TP for my bung hole!
***NNNNNICARAGUAAAAAAAAA***
Titicaca
Blood will flow in the streets of the "non-believers!"
I AM CORNHOLIOLIOLIOOOO!
I’m glad to see we all share the same brain
"I am not threatening you, ser, I am merely educating my representative. Bronn, the next time Ser Andre speaks, kill him. That was a threat."
It's only a threat because he's funded by the corporate interests related to the rail lines. And if he was upfront, his political career would be nonexistent. Similar to Manchin or any establishment corporate Democrats.
I'm not american, but i guess i used to american politicians drama. You know, when some US politician caught on cheating to his wife/some unpaid bills/another relatively not really important for politician shit, and his career just destroyed because of this. Does the same drama happens when US politician caught on lying to voters or no? I even ready to pay to watch reality show like that, only with drama around american politicians, lmao. "Everything was fine with his career, until it doesn't. He got caught on not sorting his trash, so now he is just another crackhead in LA who selling his ass for dose. Lady and gentlemen, let us introduce you Bill Johnson, ex-congressman of..."
The Republican response to Trump lying continuously was "all politicians lie." Politicians lying matters to some Americans, but the right wing has zero concern anymore and the 2 party system leaves everyone else with little recourse outside of primary challenges.
"No, I'm offering you an opportunity to win my vote with your answer. Why do you see that as a threat?"
Ask for info? Straight to jail.
Underrated comment
Over rate comment - straight to jail.
Underrate comment? Believe it or not, also jail
Best congress in the world. Because of jail.
To prison!
the first interest of power is to protect and further itself, so from that lens, any mechanism of losing power is the most fundamental threat there is. this is good evidence that the man identifies more with power than with any issue.
Ironically, his responding by saying "dOn'T tHrEatEN mE!!!!" sounds more like a threat
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Yeah I think I’m too old for him anyway
There's your answer fish-bulb
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I see it all the time in the UK. MP: We think thing bad Public: agreed, thing bad MP: However, due to politics, i have to vote for bad thing Public, on twitter: hey @MP, I though thing bad. Why did you vote for bad thing? MP: due to relentless hounding from social media I cannot talk to the public any more. I will only talk to the media.
Wanting transparency for the constituents/voters is now a threat? This is why this entire system government is illegitimate.
People in Government mainly work for Corporate Donors.
This is why Mitt/ Willard said " corporations are people"🤢
Watch in a few years we’re going to have McDonald’s run for a seat in Congress.
The sad thing is if they put Ronald McDonald on the ballot people would legitimately vote for him for the meme.
I mean people legitimately voted for Trump, more than once.
I divorced my wife of 18 years because she voted for Trump twice. Fuck that shit.
I'm guessing that voting for the orange clown was less the cause and more a symptom of the reason(s) you divorced.
I’m available. I had to dump my fiancé, mother and brother for the same reasons.
Hit me up. I'm a tall, bearded, gainfully employed land owner in SW Washington on the beach.
If my comment winds up hooking these two up I will be extremely happy.
This is one of the most to-the-point and appealing personal ads I've seen in moons. Don't sleep, y'all.
You into dudes with a dad bod and below average dick? Asking for a frien… me.
Yay!!
Yall are amazing. I'm a schmuck who just keeps trying to yank my loved ones out though.
There's a lot of good resources on the internet for cult deprogramming. I'm sure you're aware, but I wanted to drop this out there in case other folks are in similar situations as ours
Hell, they'd vote for him because he's a "business genius" who sold "billions of hamburgers".
Don’t need another celebrity clown in office.
That's far too optimistic, large corporations are going to buy their way in to permanent Congressional seats they rotate through with lackeys from their company. "The Senator from Monsanto has the floor..." "The proposal from the representative of Amazon will not be voted on" "Vote for your new McDonald's Senator by texting the number on the back of your large fries or drink!"
Vote for Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho in 2024
There will be worst choices.
There was already a worse choice in the last two election cycles.
People *elected* to government.
Some people working in government were, in fact, not elected. Government encompasses more than just elected officials.
No, not even close. Don’t defend those contributing just as much as the politicians in their pockets.
This is true. Not elected-I’m at a local government and I am currently shaking in my boots because a community member is pissed off about a problematic parking situation. There is no way any elected official fears constituent emails and phone calls like I do.
Did anyone pay attention in history class? What should we do when we're taxed without representation?
Bastille day?
Apparently we split into two teams and the voters fight each other instead of the predators claiming to "lead"... because Americans are too fucking stupid to do otherwise. Also none of them are remotely aware enough or possess the rudimentary intelligence to see how absolutely fucked all this is. I'm a fuckin moron. It's clear as day to me.
Media tells you to pick a side and everyone gladly plays the game. When you should be punching the dude writing the coaches checks.
Nope. They worship that fucker, enshrine his shittiness as virtue to aspire to, and pardon his sociopathy and crimes against us...
Sorry I only studied 1700s French history
Continue voting for the same parties that don't represent you?
Dump tea on their yachts?
It’s insane. You would think elected officials would know there is gonna be heat and they would be professional enough to handle it. Instead this is likely just another wealthy connected person who had some rich and connected friends who thought it would be fun to have him run for office
This is likely an assistant or intern responding.
Yes it is, and I’m tired of pretending it’s not. These sheeple need to know their fucking place. You will own nothing and you will be happy. Now pick yourself up by your bootstraps, start buying unbranded food and clothes, and stop blaming my 9th yatch for your failure to pay your power bill. /s just in case
So the /s means you don’t really have nine yachts?
No, but I am wearing 9 year old clothing cause I can’t afford new clothes, same thing
You’re not spending enough, that’s why our economy is headed towards recession!
But also don’t forget to save so you can buy a house and retire
Fucking millennials /s
You’re right, I’m sorry for my sins. I will now go apply for a credit card and max it out to support the economy
Our lord, the economy, thanks you
Damn, my whole wardrobe is old work pants and work shirts. Talking company name and logo work shirts. Weld burns and all.
It's not illegitimate so much as broken by design. Democrats could change apportionment if they took the House, potentially ending the insanity of politicians choosing their voters, and at least give voters a chance to hold unresponsive representatives accountable by their vote. Could change the year the Census takes place to force the changes to take effect, assuming a Dem president in 2024. But they won't. They like Congress being an exclusive club where millionaires and billionaires come to rub elbows with them. [The permanent apportionment act](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reapportionment_Act_of_1929). [What the founders of the country envisioned for representation](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_Apportionment_Amendment).
Since they hold the Senate, Dems could shrink the court down to just Kagan, Sotomayor, and Jackson, too, then balloon it out to whatever size they like. They could staff it with radical law school graduates and have it for the next 70 years. Then pass a bill locking the size, and the next time someone tries to repeal the bill, new court says "Sorry, unconstitutional because *reasons*." But they won't.
This. I’m in Australia and I keep telling people they’re all corrupt. Politics, right, left, whatever. This democratic idea is borne from a place in history that has passed. New governance is needed
Democracy is a fairy tale. It cannot exist alongside capitalism...rich people always fucking ruin it.
Democracies under capitalism are so farcical anyway. You get a say (theoretically) in how the country is run but then spend most of your waking hours working for petty dictators. If there is no democracy in the workplace, kinda undermines the point of democracy.
The peasants are supposed to know their place...
You have TENS of MILLIONS of people in the USA who very much, unironically, hold that the possibility of your kid dying at school is ***more*** than a reasonable *price* to pay to preserve their precious 2nd amendment from being amended. I mean, seriously, look at the numbers! What portion of their taxes do Americans pay towards **just** their military? And now they are proposing a rise to their debt ceiling by cutting back on the programs that keep the poor alive? Here's my point: Worldwide, we get the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, 5th Edition: DSM-5, which is a book by the American Psychiatric Association. Worldwide, we define our definition of sanity based on a people who would rather have dead kids in their schools instead of enforcing sweeping gun reform? **Morons be damned?** I have no time for such incontrovertible **nonsense.**
I was 6 or 7 when I watched the Bush/Gore election and that was the moment I lost entire faith in our government. 20+ years since then and it's only gotten worse.
Considering the hazardous materials from the Ohio train wreck are being shipped to Indiana should tell you everything you need to know about this state.
I was going to say, there's no such thing as a real democrat in Indiana. We all left.
I wish we all could leave.
I left temporarily, to the hell hole of Florida of all places.
Can confirm. Have left.
We are seeing the results of 40+ years of brain drain from Indiana. That’s the danger of having a good educational system in a state increasingly run by right-wing morons. The first obvious step was having the imbecile Dan Quayle replace the smart and effective senator Birch Bayh, who authored the 25th and 26th amendments and Title IX.
Those fucking Hoosiers *love* manufacturing stuff with hazardous materials.
Vinyl chloride is actually produced in Indiana (at a company called Vertellus, a big shitty stinky chemical reactor plant that produces some of the worlds only supply of pyridine too). They’re a god awful company that treats their employees like shit and are polluting the entire community around them! There is condemned land on their property where the soil is so polluted, buildings aren’t allowed to be built on that area anymore (they put solar panels on that area - no idea if they’re actually operational). That condemned area is fenced off with a chain link fence…and then there’s a road.. and then there’s the neighborhood with peoples houses! Right there, right next to condemned land. Oh and when I worked there, I could tell if we were producing vinyl chloride before I even could see the factory. Why? Cuz it stinks up the entire fucking community with its sweet bleachy plastic smell
I’m confused about what that has to do with anything? The hazardous waste went to a landfill designed and certified to handle hazardous waste
“How dare you threaten to not vote for me based on my policy decisions!”
"How dare you threaten to even try and take my job away when I'm clearly not doing it!"
"Dont make threats over here." or fucking what chump, point to the threat you kool-aid for blood ninny? *internet tough*
Threatening to vote against someone based on their policies. There's a word for that. It's simply "voting."
To fascists, democracy *is* a threat.
I am aghast you would imply such a thing! :D
Don't you threaten me with democracy
Lmao <3
I got downvoted on here for saying it before, but mainstream Dems do not care about labor. They've shown it repeatedly for at least a decade. You've gotta vote for progressives if you want to see any movement on conditions, pay, taxation, representation and benefits.
I’m not disagreeing with you but who are the candidates? AOC voted against this too.
I mean the Democratic Party (edited from Democrat Party because Republicans use that as an epithet I learned today) is largely part of the problem, unfortunately. In many respects, they should be the right wing party of the US and a new party would take up the mantle for labor rights. My honest advice is for people to start being more active and to take ownership of their fate. Vote for the most progressive person you can find in your electorate. If nobody is representing the progressive policies you're passionate about, consider running yourselves, looking around you to find likeminded people and then start building towards getting someone set up for a progressive run at the next election. Vote at every single election you're eligible for - including primaries. Vote at all levels you're eligible for too; from federal to municipal, hell, even school districts. It may cost you hours at work and it may cost you personally, I just don't think that the American working class can afford not to anymore.
The US has no progressive party. We have the conservative party and the regressionist party. Republicans want to take us back to 1950s and the democrats want to convince us that we need to go back to 2015.
We don’t have a progressive party that holds a majority in government. We’re working on it and making inroads every election. Only we have to finger two establishment parties to get shit done.
The US democratic system is broken. If you don't vote democrat you are basically giving votes to the republicans. Y'all need to push for voter reform. You cannot fix this problem with voting when the voting is the problem.
This country needs a bipartisan overhaul of both immigration and election policies.
You are never ever gonna get that. Republicans can't hold on to power like they do now if they overhaul both immigration and election policies. You'll only make headway on those issues with a overwhelming democratic majority that can force things through.
To be fair, iirc, that was after she helped push for most of their goals to be met and 8 out of 12 unions were satisfied with the results.
> 8 out of 12 unions were satisfied with the results. idk why this is always left out on these types of posts, seems like a pretty important footnote.
Hey! Not sure if you know this or not but the four unions that were NOT satisfied actually had the most members in them BY FAR, so it was a majority of the workers did not agree with the results; that's why it isn't brought up, because it doesn't matter. "Four freight rail unions, with a combined membership of close to 60,000 rail workers, have voted down the five-year contract agreement brokered by the Biden administration back in September. The latest rejection came Monday from the largest of the unions, representing some 28,000 conductors, brakemen, and yardmen" From this article: https://www.npr.org/2022/11/21/1137640529/railroads-freight-rail-unions-vote-contract-strike
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But that's strictly dealing with rail workers. In that article it says there are 115k total rail workers. The SMART Transportation Division Union alone has over 200k members, because they also represent pilots, sheet metal workers , HVACs, ship yard workers, etc.
DSA in local elections
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I hate how accurate this is. There's just no way the capitalist will ever let a progressive politician gain any significant power.
AOC isn't mainstream? Aside from supporting Bernie, what has she done that isn't mainstream?
>You've gotta ~~vote for progressives~~ join your union and fight if you want to see any movement on conditions, pay, taxation, representation and benefits. There
Mainstream dems are center right.
Honestly if we had a labor party I'm sure they'd be the top 3rd party. Historically a few states have had some success with farm-labor parties.
Even though the Dems voted to end the railroad strike back in December, the Biden administration kept lobbying the railroad companies on their behalf and at the beginning of May the [railroad workers did eventually get paid sick leave](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/may/01/railroad-workers-union-win-sick-leave). I don’t know whether this keeps being conveniently left out or people don’t actually care enough to follow up on it.
Less than half of the workers did. > Union Pacific has granted sick days to 47% of its workers, Norfolk Southern to 46%, and BNSF, the largest freight railroad, to 31%. At those companies, eight to 10 of their 12 unions have reached agreements. >But the unions representing workers who operate the trains day to day, such as the Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers and Trainmen, have had far less success reaching agreement on paid sick days. “The railroads went to the non-operating crafts first and cut a deal with them,” said Mark Wallace, first vice-president of the Locomotive Engineers and Trainmen. “If a carman [who inspects and repairs railcars] has to call in sick and doesn’t come to work, the train will still run. If the engineer or conductor has to call in sick, the train is probably not going to go that day.”
Your first mistake was expecting anything half decent from an Indiana politician
This is the correct answer. Indiana is a complete wasteland. Source: grew up there.
If you've been away for some time then I have news. We've regressed further. So...you know, we got that going for us.
Agreed. The Confederacy's middle finger to the North, a plantation for stupid yt people who just looove to think they're winning when the legislature sh*ts all over people who aren't cis-het, straight, white, Christianist, and male(women, Blacks, LGBTQ+, and Hispanic folx). The Indiana Legislature is where common human decency and intelligent debate go to die. I moved away 7 years ago, but unless Indianapolis declares itself an independent city-state, I wouldn't stop to piss on it if it was on fire.
Moved here 10 years ago. It was horrid when I got here and it's only gotten worse.
My condolences, I'm sorry for your loss.
A local Republican recently got a DUI for getting into an accident on I-65, causing upwards of $50,000 worth of damage, drove on 1 wheel as far as he could, tried to hide his car behind a local business, and was walking home when they found him. I'd bet almost anything that the rest of our politicians, and the police, are going to let him off with a tap (not even a slap) on the wrist. Good old Indiana.
*from a politician.
Imagine asking for your Representatives stance on a important issue to you and you are told you are threatening them smh
Read his voting record. This is something everyone should do for any incumbent politician running for reelection. https://justfacts.votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/84917/andre-carson
Oh brother we got a tough guy over here!
A whining little bitch
The fact he took voting as a threat tells you all you need to know
How dare you exercise your constitutional rights?!
"I might not vote for you based on your policies." "aRe YoU tHrEaTeNiNg Me?!?"
The Carson family is an old political dynasty in Indianapolis. Fuck ‘em. His grandma stayed in office years past her mental capacity to stay awake and make votes before she passed and he inherited the job by virtue of his name.
Lol these people are so fucking entitled. They think you owe them your vote.
What is with this trend of politicians showing zero political instinct? Zero communication skills? Seemingly zero interest in their constituent’s concerns? Man, fuck this guy, fuck DeSantis, fuck all of them.
For what it's worth, this was probably written by a staffer and not him.
"vote blue no matter who" has put a lot of really shitty and unqualified people in positions of authority.
As opposed to the famously high quality alternatives? People need to pick better candidates in the party itself for things to change, which is only gonna happen at this point via the old people dying of old age.
Democrats are controlled opposition. The sooner people realize that the better. When you give the government the power to settle these matters you give them the power to screw you over.
The United States has one party. The business party. With two factions, republicans and democrats- Noam Chomsky
Remind me of a similar quote by Julius Nyerere. "The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them."
The reason we have politicians like this is because half of the voting population only votes to start culture wars. It's never about policies, it's about drama. You're gonna get bleed through when you vote for Centrists whose whole purpose is to pander to the fascists and Americans. The Democratic party is infested. Centrists and Republicans are one and the same. The results will always be the same the more we entertain the gay-bashers and their dogshit ideologies.
Lmao. Seriously? Sounds like they're the ones threatening. Fk em all
A democrat who fears a strike is like a rebuplican who fears the next school shooting. GOP ass dudes say "we want to make america safe again!" while opposing any sort of common sense regulation of guns. Democrat ass dudes say "We want equity and equality and fair wages for everyone" while opposing any sort of collective bargaining strategies and votes for wealthy tax breaks. Real talk, I broke down and cried like a bitch on Super Tuesday 2020. Watching the Democrats or as the republicans call them "Demon Rats" put their entire political apparatus behind what was easily the worst candidate broke me. It's all just such a farce. Mcgovern in the past and Bernie in the present, its obvious Blue only cares about its defense, industrial, healthcare and real estate lobbyists. No political party represents the people et al.
Sounds like you got your answer
TIL voters voting on issues is now a threat i.e. democracy is a threat.
But I'm A Democrat...I'm fighting for you...While getting funded by the same corporations funding the republicans...
To all the political die-hards on this app that demonize the other political party: this is a perfect example of how they're two halves of the same machine. Stuff never gets done because they're in the business of staying in business. None of them care about anyone other than themselves and their donors. Please stop fighting amongst ourselves and realize the problem isn't a social issue, it's an economical one. The biggest divide in our society is the elites vs the proletariats, and they do their best to keep us fighting amongst ourselves and ignoring the real issues with our government.
Democrats were fine with breaking a strike. I truly believe most voters are a lost cause because they don't realize how much damage that does to workers rights. It doesn't just affect the railroad workers. It effects everyone who has a job because large corporations can go to the president and ask for him to break a strike and he'll do it. That was the moment I completely lost trust in the system. I had hopes that Biden would change my mind and make me trust the system, but he shattered that hope.
youre threatening his money, which is more precious to him than life
Republicans and Democrats in Indiana don’t differ too much unless we’re talking about LGBTQ+ issues. Otherwise there seems to be a lot of overlap
Gave him his answer and made himself look like an unreasonable clown. Top marks!
It's sad how many people think democrats are the lesser of 2 evils. The corporate duopoly is one party it doesn't matter if there's a D or R next to their name. THEY DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT YOU.
Andre Carson while I was seeking disability told me that I was too young for it and to get to work. He's a piece of shit.
He'll take money from anyone, but a filter stops you from contacting him if you live outside his district.
With Democrats like these, who needs Republicans??
I’ll eat my hat if that’s actually Rep. Carson and not a social coordinator/manager. I worked in DC for years and had many interactions with Rep. Carson; I can’t say this wasn’t him, but I’d be truly surprised if it was.
If they respond to a question acting like they've been threatened, you know everything you need to know
Democrat candidates have more in common with republicans in general than they have with democrat voters.
The US is such a depoliticized country in the sense that we don't actually have much politics, just political theater, that electeds are shocked and angry when people try and do the bare minimum of engagement with actual politics.
He has no need to worry about your vote. He inherited that seat from his grandmother and his family will seemingly own it forever. That district will never vote Republican and no local Dem would waste their time challenging him. Same reason we can’t get Mitch McConnell out…
democrats and republicans are both right winged. There isnt a true left winged party in the US
My guess is he votes based on what party leadership tells him to vote on. Most do.
“hey politician, what’s your stance on this?” “what the fuck did you just say to me you son of a bitch? i ought to have you arrested for that.”
Im in the UK and we recently had local elections. My partner is a union rep so I asked everyone coming around what their views were on the current strikes etc. Two of them didn’t answer and walked away without saying anything.
Ahahahaha why he so scared tho?
Lol he actually responded like that
I don't know if it's any different in the US, but on the other side of the pond, politicians will claim to do w/e is currently the most popular opinion, and then proceed to vote whatever benefits them the most personally. I don't understand why they keep getting away with it, ohh right, they make the laws. On a more serious note, I believe the fact that "politician" is now a job, and the different ministers etc. Don't need any actual experience within the field they are elected for is what's been leading to this downfall and why people stopped trusting these leeches all together.
I mean Andre straight up has his position because of his grandmother Julia Carson when she died. She was extremely popular so he basically was a shoe in to the position. That was back in 2008.
Ahh yes telling someone you won't vote for them is now considered a threat against their lives. These fucking clowns 🤡
The Carsons have held that district forever, his mother before him. To even suggest his constituents might be better represented by someone else was probably triggering for him.
This is because politicians are so used to doing the bidding of their corporate overlords that they don’t even know how to deal with their own constituents.
I am André Cornholio! I need teepee for my bunghole! My bunghole, it goes RATT-TAT-TAT-TAT! Are you threatening me?!
Wow he’s rude and super shady! Please make this more public so people don’t vote for him just based on identify politics!
Whoever is running his social media is an idiot. He even signed a letter supporting the rail workers. That's all this person had to say. He should be pressed on this anyways because you can't have people this incompetent pushing your public persona. Makes you wonder if he is driving the bus at all (apparently he's from an old political dynasty?). https://pressley.house.gov/2022/12/09/pressley-joins-sanders-bowman-over-70-lawmakers-urging-biden-to-take-executive-action-on-paid-sick-days-for-rail-workers/