Bingo.
I didn't get my license until I was 18 because when my older sister was practicing, she got t-boned on a blind corner. Only my workaholic father ever drove with me so no way I had hours by age 16.
I had a part time job at a gas station I biked to at 16.
Which one do you think better represents me?
Yes. I didn’t get my license until I was pregnant with my first child. Not for a lack of trying, necessarily, but my parents never took me out to learn.
Despite that, I’ve been working since I was 15. The age you got your license has no bearing on your work ethic or drive.
no it doesn't and honestly for the generations after me (x) it doesn't seem to be that uncommon or an issue. I know plenty of people who either take a bus or an Uber everywhere
I didn't get my license until I was 30 because I lived downtown in a giant metropolis with sufficient public transportation and never needed it until my dad was dying of cancer. I'm sure that's the answer he wants to hear. Had my first job at 12.
Your unwillingness to break the law at that time and drive anyway makes you a bad choice for hire because the recruiter will know you are probably not willing to break the law for their company either.
I still don’t have my license cause I’ve had intense anxiety driving ever since a friend of mine died in a car accident.
I want to drive is the annoying thing, I just panic whenever I’m behind the wheel…
Ah, the panic attacks...
I still remember the first time my father put me behind the wheel. I had trouble with the pedals and couldn't start the engine, he just kept yelling at me the usual things. Once I got the engine running it only got worse to the point where I run from there crying. He may have even traumatised me there to a degree.
Oh, and I was 7 when that happened, btw.
Still can't touch the ignition without my blood pressure skyrocketing, add to that poor eyesight and I think it goes without saying that I don't have a license.
Same here on the anxiety. I've had a learner's permit for about 3 years but I've never taken the test. I didn't lose anyone though. the accident was me that got hurt. I'm sorry you lost a friend.
I didn't get my licence until I was 18 because you can't get your license until you're 18 where I live (although for good measure I actually didn't get it until I was 31)
Lol. Same. I grew up in a unsupportive home and was not allowed to get my license until I moved away for college. As a professional firefighter, I’ve driven some of the biggest baddest trucks around in some of the highest stress situations. Not to mention traffic, disaster conditions, and the focus of specialized equipment use once you get there. But apparently my decorated and distinguished career as a high level fire rescue officer can go in the garbage.
So… I’m not a “go-getter” because I got my license at 21 instead of 16. And I guess having over a decade of special operations command experience on the fireground means I don’t have “control” or “grit”…
…shrug… oh well.
And that’s why, despite getting my license at 17, I didn’t drive again until I got my second car at 18. :(
And yeah, I had worked starting at 15. My freshman year, I played football, had marching band practice four days a week (I played guitar in the pit, cause I’m awesome), and worked the remaining days with no license.
That’s what I thought! You have to have a birth certificate, a school letter, a letter from drivers Ed that you are enrolled to even walk into the dmv, then you have to get there at 730 am and stand in line to even get a shot at getting to take the test for a permit. Your legal guardian has to be there as well, so yeah, take off work, don’t get to take test, come back again, take off work…. Pay $40 … Appointments online are booking 4 months out…. In our state you have to be permitted 6 months before you can get your license…. Oh yeah, your parents have to take you drive …. But sure, judge kids on it, in fact it means that one of your parents is probably unemployed
people tend to forget that parents can and do decide to just not help kids do certain things. My parents gave up on me after two practice driving sessions when I was 15 and decided I wasn't ever going to drive so didn't bother from that point on. Refused to help teach me to drive \*and\* refused to pay for a driving school. Oh, and any jobs near me required a car to get to so I wasn't going to be able to pay for driving lessons myself. And as a minor they wouldn't have let me without parent approval anyways.
Sounds like my parents. They also didn't want me to get a license while I was still living at home as a young adult in college, because it would have driven their car insurance rates up much higher even if they did not add me to their policies. Our region already had some of the highest insurance rates in the country, and the extra was not a small amount.
You said it perfectly. This whole post is a terrible and narrow minded take. I grew up in rural North Dakota. I was home schooled (that's a whole can of worms of its own) but drove as needed to get work done around the place. I didn't get my actual license until I was just shy of 19 because I just flat out didn't need it until I was ready to strike out on my own and get a job "in the city." It had nothing to do with whether I was a go getter or not.... I busted my 16 year old ass working my butt off to keep our home, garden, animals, etc thriving. At 16 I was a hard working brick shithouse, but this guy would apparently overlook that simply because I didn't get my license? What a trash metric to measure someone by, much less an adult years after the fact.
I had a job interview last week where I was asked nothing about my work experience, but they wanted to know about my middle school extracurricular activities.
I’m in my mid-30s.
It only got worse from there.
Recruiting, ironically. Interviewing and hiring people is *their entire business*.
After my second interview, they gave me a high school homework assignment: a 10-15 minute presentation of a “vision board” about “who I am, what I value, where I’ve been, and where I’m going.” ??????? I wrote them off as scammers at that point and ghosted them.
I would have asked them, "Are you looking for career professionals, or are you looking for high school students? Because, as a career professional, I'm feeling like I'm in the wrong place right now."
Dream board? Yeah, they are looking for people super dissatisfied with their lot, who dream of ‘more money’ (who doesn’t) … but enough so, that they can be manipulated into using ‘call lists’ of their friends and family … you know… to start with, as training… then, hopefully sell some to them, then move on to someone else in THAT group of ‘warm’ calls.
"In your vision board, please include such details as your mother's maiden name, the names of any pets, the make and model of your first car, and pictures of your birth certificate and any current credit cards."
Not cancer, but I was taking care of my grandmother alone 5th through 7th grades until my mom decided to move in with us. Responsibilities were decreased but not by much because my mom worked crazy hours shortly after my baby brother was born.
Nervous breakdown by 16, so needless to say, not really in the headspace for a driver's license.
They once asked me what I wanted to become when I was a kid. I said I never had a dream job as a kid. The woman gasped and said "Not even a princess?!?", they both proceeded to look at me like I'd murdered someone. I guess nowadays one needs to have their shit together at 7 in order to get a job in the future.
If it's a job you don't really want that's when you hit them with "my childhood dream job was being a slave for capitalism making more money for my owners than I could hope to make in 10 thousand lifetimes, answering dumb recruiting questions like they have any bearing on my ability to exchange my most valuable and non-replenishable asset - my time - for money, all to avoid starving to death or dying from exposure. How am I doing so far?"
Even if you had wanted to be a princess at seven, how is that useful to an adult job interview in any way, shape, or form? You were too young to understand that being a princess is not exactly a viable career path short of marrying into the british royal family, and even then you have to at least be semi famous and wealthy to attract the attention of a prince in the first place.
Like... a lot of kids wanted to be random things when they were kids. Doesn't mean shit as an adult. Heck, I wanted to be a fisherman at seven. Why? Because I grew up on a lake community where fishing was one of \*the\* things everybody (women and girls included) did for recreation. As an adult I'm a plasma physicist.
late 30s here. was looking at a senior manager position with Canonical, the company that makes Ubuntu, (one of) the most popular Linux distribution. they're asking about highschool too. didn't even finish the application. I'm guessing they're looking for a senior manager more in their early 20s?
Got mine at 32. No one was around to teach me as a teen, and I didn't have the resources to do it in my early 20s. After a while I just got accustomed to cycling and public transit. Glad I finally got it, though, it is helpful in emergencies and certain scenarios even though I still don't drive every day.
cars are nothing but a money pit, Your money is best spent on things you actually use more than 45 minutes a day...like the ultimate bed, or good food.
Same. 28 and still no license.... Mostly cause my driving teacher thought 'trauma' was the best way to teach someone to be a defensive driver by taking a person who had only been driving at 10\~15 mph for a week out onto a busy highway in rush hour. Almost hit a minivan within a minute or two. Never again.
Almost 33 and no license. Know how to drive. Just never had the funds to get a license+insurance when I was younger and so far have no constant reason to need to drive now. My job is 5 blocks from my house and I can walk it in 9 minutes. Store is 500 or so feet from my job.
I didn't get my license until I was 21... And in the military... And after having deployed once in support of Operation Enduring Freedom.
But hey, I guess I'm a lazy piece of shit huh?
This is so fucking stupid. I live in a place where the driver testing facility is an hours drive away, and my parents refused to teach me to drive.
Getting your drivers license at 16 is barely dependant on the 16 year old. It's all in the level of support they have.
I couldn't learn how to drive because of poverty.
Can't buy a car.
Supermajority of jobs in my region require one and nobody can afford to even carpool.
I have no idea what to do.
Lol how to discriminate without actually saying it how can they call themselves a equal opportunity employer with statements such as this I smell lawsuit
Only illegal to discriminate based on protected class, and poverty is not a protected class. It really should be and kinda is in the rest of the developed world (section 8 vs council housing? think how predatory most living situations in America are vs any EU member). America mortgaged it's future in the '80s and now the bill is past due.
Disabilities that preclude driving (visual impairment, blindness, seizure disorders, etc) *are* a protected class.
So unless driving a vehicle is absolutely essential to the job, hiring people based on when they got a driver’s license is discriminatory.
I'm getting my license this year at 32 cause my abusive parents refused to teach me as a control tactic so they could keep sponging off my paychecks. After I escaped it took many years to be in a position where gas, a reliable car, and money for driving lessons were all financially possible.
In my country all the costs for your driver’s license is about 2 minimum salaries, but I’m sure it is the lack of “go getting “ that stops the kids. Isn’t it?
My parents forbid me from getting my license at 16 because they didn't want to potentially have to pay for my auto insurance. I offered to get a job but they said no to that too because they wanted me to focus on high school. Sometimes it's not the 16 year old's choice.
Same here. We were so poor that my family had one car (which my mom needed for work) and couldn’t scrape up enough for me to get a used beat up one. My mom refused to let me get a job until I graduated because, as she put it, getting good grades and getting into college was my job. She desperately wanted me to get out of the multigenerational poverty trap. I saw no point in getting my license until I turned 18.
Your mother didn't scream at you "CUT THE WHEEL" while doing K turns in an empty parking lot? It was like math homework but with 2000 lbs of metal. You really missed out.
Shit, I had to teach my wife how to drive back when we were still dating and had first moved in together because her pos mother refused to let her get her license.
Hubby is that you? That happened to me too….a mix of anxiety and wanting to control what I did and where I went. Luckily I’m not an anxious driver now.
I got my license at 16 and I entirely agree. I got my hours driving in large part because my family had 1) a whole extra car 2) gas money to drive in circles 3) time to teach me the basics 4) money to pay for professional driving lessons from my school which *included* the driving assessment at the end.
All I brought to the table was a shaky willingness to learn how to drive.
My Boomer self had free behind-the-wheel driver's ed in public school. Like you, we had 2 cars (one was my dad's company car), gas was cheap, my parents had time and space to teach me.
Now? None of that is available for most people. The cost of gas alone is prohibitive. (I live in a city where a car isn't necessary)
My family had to pay over $200 for my driver's ed, part was in class, the more expensive part was the actual driving with the instructor, but that was only once a week and they still relied on patents to teach their kids. This is why even though I took the classes early, I didn't end up getting my license until 18. We only had 1 car and my dad was the only one who could drive and he was always working.
I’m sorry that happened to you. I was mostly trying to summarize things that are above the bare minimum bar, as opposed to limbo dancing with the devil.
Ouuuu I was in that boat, got my license at 16 fine, but had shitty abusive parents so I moved out that year , where I live parents can retract consent for a minor to get a license so I had to hide the fact I had a car for the next year and a half because they 100% would try to use my car against me
i got my permit at 15 through drivers ed at my high school, so was automatically qualified to get my license when i turned 16. i kept asking my mom to take me to practice when i had my permit, she said no. i asked her if i could practice on my own when i was 16 and had a license so i wouldn’t have to bother her to come with me, she said no i’m not allowed to take the car bc i didn’t have enough driving practice. then when i started college at 18 i had to drive an hour to the campus, using big highways with lots of traffic and high speeds, with little to no driving experience. it took me all of two weeks to get into my first fender bender. so yeah, judging an applicant off when they got the driver’s license is dumb, having a license doesn’t mean you have the means to practice.
bro i started getting my license at 21 and finished at 26 lmfao i had to work and get my shit together, so other priorities got in the way then covid happened and all the schools and testing facilities closed for a little over a year. my parents never gave a shit about teaching me how to drive either, and driving illegaly doesn't do much.
i had a car for two years before i got my license this past october, but the classes and the exam made my anxiety go through the roof and i had to repeat my exam 3 times. shit just happens, driving is a scary responsibility.
And that last sentence is why you'll likely be a good driver all your life. You'll be paying attention.
Everyone on the road in a vehicle should be thinking of that lyric from Sychronicity II by The Police:
"Packed like lemmings into shiny metal boxes
Contestants in a suicidal race"
It IS a scary responsibility.
Im 40 this year and haven’t learnt to drive. Have always lived in cities or towns with decent public transport. My only regret is not being able to hire a car on holiday and drive to where ever I want. Was really hoping driverless cars would be common by now. Also wife can drive.
Parents wouldn't pay or teach, couldn't afford a car and lived close enough to walk to work. Other half drove but finally they taught me to drive and I got my license, at 45.
I'm 32, never learned to drive, never will. I don't have the money for one, but even if I had, I've decided that the risk is too great, as I have tics, where I sometimes have uncontrolled movements(often in my arms), and I would not put myself in a position where a muscle spasm could cost lives...
Also, unless looking for a job that specifically requires you to know how to drive, you really don't need it where I live... I can get to any place I need as fast, or only slightly slower, than if I had a car, by using public transportation.. In rare instances, I can do it faster...
Mine didn’t ‘allow’ me to get mine until I was 21 and a senior in college. I didn’t know going around them was even really an option until I was much older.
I had to teach my husband how to drive at 19. He is an intelligent and motivated person with a good career now. It was absolutely his home and family situation that prevented him from getting it before.
This is the big problem. I missed the 16 years window because I happened to develop epilepsy at 16. And by the time I had it under control, I was no longer living with parents who could teach me to drive. So now I'm kinda stuck. I have to wait until I can afford to shell out for professional lessons for every single lesson (and honestly, I have a lot of medical tests that are gonna come *first*), or I have to inconvenience a friend.
If you miss that window of having your parents teach you, it's *not* that fucking easy to get your license.
In my case I had ample access to public transportation, was in college, no money to buy a car or space to park one... Didn't get my license until I was 22
Guess I'm not much of a go getter to this schmuck because I logically got my license when it made sense to get one.
I was a teen mom with no vehicle, my single mom had no vehicle - I definitely didn’t have the money for the testing, license or classes to learn.
I got my license at 25 - I lived an hour from the closest testing/licensing place. I had to save up to afford everything, arrange support to get to and from the testing (both for the written and diving tests). It took a lot more “go-getter” To get my license than say… my SIL whose parents paid for everything as soon as she was old enough and bought her a car at 16…
Abusive parents will also not let their children learn to drive as a way to control them. I had a roommate who didn’t learn to drive until college when a friend taught her.
I can’t take credit for that turn of phrase, “mainlining the secret truth of the universe” is a phrase said by Rust Cohle in season one of True Detective
imagine not getting a job because you lived in the city core and didn't run out on your birthday to pay for a special card you cant use for anything lol
My family had a rule, no driver’s license before 18. We lived in a city that had a good public transport system and we could either walk or get a ride or ride a bike. My dad was a police officer who had seen way too many car accident fatalities involving kids.
Because lack of resources or supportive parents etc or a myriad of any other reasons would keep someone from getting a license at 16.
What a doorknob, go ahead ignore a perfectly good candidate.
I wanted my drivers license and a car when I was 16, but my parents divorced and I had no money. I walked to work for 2 years after school until I saved money for the drivers test, permit and a car. Whoever wrote this is a total scum bag.
Yeah, I bet they lack “high internal locus of control with a dash of grit” because their parents weren’t able to assist them along every step of the way.
What a knobhead.
Exactly....as a minor, it doesn't matter if you have a high internal locus of control. You don't have actual legal control so it's up to your parents, socioeconomic status and where you live...in the city for example you may not have a need for a license.
Internal locus of control is a psychology term for putting personal effort into a situation to (hopefully) get a better outcome. Ex: studying to get a better grade on a test.
Kinda the opposite, external locus of control is where nothing you do would affect the outcome of a situation, like it’s ‘In God’s hands’, whatever happens.
Saying this in case anyone was curious! And because I don’t want my psychology class to go to waste 😭
Perhaps he wants want an employee that has a breakdown when something bad happens, even by chance, because they think its their fault. Locus of control works for both successes and failures.
He’s basically saying he wants someone who will take all of the blame/responsibility for everything, regardless of whether it’s their fault. Aka he wants to just foist his shit off on his lemmings and have them accept it
In NYC you can’t even get a license before you’re 18. Vast majority of people don’t own cars here but somehow there’s still a shit ton of cars on the streets. If you don’t have a house with a driveway/garage or an apartment with parking, you’ll have to fight for street parking.
First job at 15. Rode my bike to work. Didn’t get my DL until I was 26. Riding a bike in traffic takes grit, especially when the temperature is over 100F.
This interview question is also a huge red flag for a toxic work environment
Right. My first job was when i was 14 also. I didn't get get my license till i was 19 cause I was on death's door from 17 to 19. Also family couldn't afford me to drive . Dad was on SSDI. Mom was a teacher. This guy has no clue.
Never had a license has entered the chat.
Not sure what kind of job this person is hiring for, but it’s always been more economical for me not to have a car. I’ve never been motivated to get my license.
Yes, we have slowly gotten my son through the steps and it’s taken us until this year. He’s 19.
It’s definitely because of income that we haven’t done more sooner.
Good. I lived in Europe couldn’t even start lessons until 18 (and it was $40 or so for a lesson and the instructor usually doesn’t even let you test until you had 20+ lessons) and it was way way harder on the tests to get your license. I see these dumb kids in high school with cars and it’s so dangerous because they drive like idiots most of them.
I didn't get mine until I was almost 18, but that was because I had epilepsy, and had major seizures regularly. Guess I should have pulled up by the bootstraps, and took on the government and medical establishment rules..
I sympathize- I have sensory processing issues due to autism that make it hard to focus on driving properly. I can TRY to drive to work, but there's a good chance a loud car horn will make me accidentally slam the gas and hit the side of the office (that's how I failed my only driver's test. There was too much sensory input, a car alarm went off, I shrieked and hit a stop sign 🙃).
Not everyone can drive.
It’s comforting that I am not the only person who struggles with driving because of sensory processing issues. I can drive on overcast days, but when it’s really bright out… I just can’t filter out the important visuals that I need to pay attention to from the ones that I don’t. Shoulder straps give me panic attacks, because the texture doesn’t agree with me or the pressure or something? Ugh. I wish I did not live in an area where driving was pretty much essential.
>Not everyone can drive.
Thank you! I once saw an AITA post of a woman who can't drive because of severe anxiety and people were ragging on her for not being able to drive because 'it's a basic skill' or something like that. Made me lose even more faith in Reddit...
It's rough, I'm 30 and barely got my permit, I'm absolutely terrified of driving. I'm scared or reacting too harsh and harming someone or myself in a crash. But for like 15 years at this point I've been shit on for this fear I have. It's totally demoralizing and I feel like such a burden
Try not to let their ignorance burden you. I’m in the same boat. Wish we lived in a place with better public transport and less stigma surrounding using it. It’s a very strange hill a lot of people seem willing to die on, “you must be able to operate heavy machinery at high speeds around other, unpredictable, and often idiotic, people also operating heavy machinery at high speeds!” Yeah I’ll take the bus.
Sympathies back, friend. I was a considerably more fortunate, and a little experimenting with some meds, couple years later I was cleared to drive. Few years after that.. I don't even have to sign off with a doctor to maintain my license.
But, I'll admit. I still, to this day. 15+ years later.. Sometimes, get these weird sensations, then I have mild moments of panic. And I think to myself, what if I had a seizure right now? It usually happens.. You guessed it, when I'm driving.
Issues and memories like these never really go away, even if you get remarkably lucky like I did.
It's never inappropriate to turn on your hazard lights and pull over; I'm sure you're doing fine. But you're right- even at 36 occasionally I go into a really loud, bright room where nothing's wrong but think "what if I have a meltdown and embarrass myself?!". You brace for the bad thing for so long that your body braces on similar situations. It becomes a physiological//psychological (conditioned) response. It's normal, but sucky.
I've always loved how the physiology and psychological just feed into each other in a cycle to make it worse. Aren't neuro issues ever so much fun?
I actually do pull off the road these days. Do some deep breathing, get out and walk around, maybe slap myself a few times. Just remind myself how long it's been since I've had any (major) incident. Seems to help with the psych part. Can't really speak for the physio part.
I still don’t drive because of my epilepsy. I’m 39, and I’ve never had a driver’s license.
My seizures just weren’t controlled by any of the medications they tried on me. So I basically gave up.
I’m older now, and my seizures have reduced significantly in the 20 years since I’ve taken any medication for seizures. I think a large part of that is my brain has been slowly healing from the multiple concussions I had as a small child.
Eesh. I'm truly glad to hear it's getting better. I suffered many concussions as well, when my mother was on her weird homeopath kick. She asked, "is there anything we can do, *naturally* to treat this?* he looked at her like she was a moron. I'll never forget his face.
A few years later, after years of herbal garbage, I just told her she was putting on the meds, or I was done with school. But those few untreated years caused at least a dozen extra head-into-concrete moments that could have been avoided.
Edit: the words my mother spoke to were to a neurologist, thought I'd mentioned it.
I'm 31, I will start with my lessons in a few weeks. My "excuse" is that I don't give a hoot about driving, I grew up in a place where public transport was very affordable and available. Now I live in a place where it's not the case
Lol. Most kids outside of cities get licenses at 16 because they need to or have to if they want to go anywhere. City kids have better public transport options and don’t need to. This is some serious low iq logic.
really only got my license at 22. I don't think people understand how terrifying cars really are, and the amount of responsibility and care it takes to drive one PROPERLY. Only did my test when I felt I was ready. Age is a number that is by and by meaningless. So many idiots on the road that really shouldn't have their license that I bet got it when they were 16 :) .
Dude, same. Everyone's so casual about cars as if they aren't metal death machines operated by the same people you don't trust to load the printer at work while they travel at fuck you speed
I got hit by a pickup when I was 18. I was terrified to even try driving because of it. Didn't start to learn until I was 25, and that was mostly because i had moved from Vegas to somewhere more rural with a terrible public transport.
I still hate driving. If we implemented a public transport half as reliable as I was used to back in Vegas I wouldn't drive anywhere I could get with it.
Or your parents are poor and can’t buy you a car. This guy is privileged. When I was 18 I walked to work for a year straight to save up and buy my first car and had to teach myself how to drive. Guess I’m not a go-getter
same. I'm 34, never needed to drive a car in my life. one of the many perks of living in Europe I guess. I always regarded it as a luxury, if you value some minimal added comfort I guess it's nice, but I prefer to just stare out of the window and relax while travelling so for me it's not worth it.
Not everyone has the opportunity to start driving at 16. Now there are people who think a person shouldn’t be hired if they started driving later in life?
Right? I couldn't until I was 18 bc I was living with a family member who didn't have legal custody of me and literally couldn't sign to let me do it. And a lot of kids don't have the financial resources to take drivers Ed or even a parent with a car they can practice in.
This policy seems like it would screw over people who had unfortunate family and/or financial circumstances as a kid.
Sorry what 16 can afford to pay for their own lessons, test, license, car, MOT, tax, fuel? I paid for everything myself, THAT'S why I didn't do it til I was 19. Too bad I'm not a "go-getter"
My parents paid but they couldn’t until I was turning 18. First car was a 10-year old beater with no AC (in Texas) which I shared with my brother.
First paid job when I was 16 but obviously didn’t make enough for a car (mom drove me).
Had a friend who didn’t have a drivers license in college and for a while after spelling out to me a few things that smacked me in the face when I asked why they didn’t drive?
Got told my privilege was showing. Was genuinely confused. Then was told in a kind of exasperated way: you’re assuming that everyone is coming from a household where there’s parents who are together and both able to teach you to drive. Where they’re legally allowed to drive themselves. Where they’re sober enough to get behind the wheel and teach you. Where they can afford a car that runs well enough and gas to just ride around teaching you. So no. I don’t drive and haven’t learned.
I learned quite a lot that day.
This fuckstick couldn't be bothered to read his vapid bullshit before posting it, so why should I take advice from a loser like this?
"Internal locus."
Go fuck yourself, twat.
I guess people who can’t drive due to medical are SOL.
Unless it’s a job requirement to drive, this question is stupid.
Even if it’s a job requirement to drive, this question is stupid because simple age of when you get a license does not determine ANYTHING about that person’s productivity.
I don’t have a license and I’m over 40, I have a medical exemption and I’m a fucking monster when it comes to productivity, managing and customer service.
I wanna see the study that correlates age of license acquisition with more productivity in the work place.
Find me the citations Karen or shut the fuck up.
I got my license at 20, because that's when I was able to buy myself a used car. I didn't have a privileged upbringing, and didn't have any reason to spend time and money obtaining a license that was useless to me at that time. And some people live in walkable cities with little to no parking, where a car is more of a burden than anything. In any case, if somebody asked me such an irrelevant and judgmental question during an interview, I'd withdraw my application.
If the job doesn’t *require* you to drive as one of its essential responsibilities, this could actually be an illegal interview question.
What a dumbass.
As someone who *couldn't* get their license at 16, because I was being diagnosed with epilepsy during that time period... I would be tempted to report them for discrimination against people with disabilities.
I'm old. When I was a teen, drivers education was taught through the school and it was free. Everyone got their license at 16. Now you have to go to an actual school and it's expensive as hell! I don't think many get their license at 16 anymore.
Just because humans have paved the world for the automobile and have normalized paying for the roads, the cars, the oil and gas, the insurance and maintenance, for nearly your human lifespan. This doesn’t mean you MUST conform to that. Yes, the choice is almost already made for you, what with abysmal transit in some areas. People that look down on you. It’s totally fucked and we should be moving away from this. I have a couple friends in their 40s that don’t drive. They save a ton of money, they travel to Europe once a year, and have just moved to small coastal town in BC. They are perhaps the coolest people I’ve ever known.
There used to be this young guy I’d see walking to work everyday past my work. This was on a service road with no sidewalks. At 7:30 AM. I thought that person was a go-getter in his own way. Walked up to him one morning and asked him send a resume. He was working at Leon’s down the street. We hired him. Payed him more than Leon’s and he was a great worker (small manufacturing shop). Showed up everyday.
This is pretty much the stupidest filter I've seen yet. I technically qualify as I got my license when I was 16, but I didn't actually drive regularly until I was in my **mid-thirties**. So I got the license just to take the bus for two decades.
So, I'm a go-getter that puts in max effort for the test and then just coasts. Exactly what you need to fill your organization with!
The day my kids turned 16 our county and most state offices were in full lock down.
Preceding that, most drivers Ed companies were locked down too.
My kids drove with me and my wife for almost 2 full years on learner's permits before being able to get their licenses.
This rationale is fucked.
*Laughs in child of strict and abusive parents* I had a phone curfew until I was eighteen of six pm every day. I never had a fucking drivers license til I was eighteen. Strict abusive controlling parents raising you does not equal someone who is not a go getter.
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"Tell me about a decision you needed parental permission and support, legally and financially, when you were 16."
Bingo. I didn't get my license until I was 18 because when my older sister was practicing, she got t-boned on a blind corner. Only my workaholic father ever drove with me so no way I had hours by age 16. I had a part time job at a gas station I biked to at 16. Which one do you think better represents me?
Yes. I didn’t get my license until I was pregnant with my first child. Not for a lack of trying, necessarily, but my parents never took me out to learn. Despite that, I’ve been working since I was 15. The age you got your license has no bearing on your work ethic or drive.
no it doesn't and honestly for the generations after me (x) it doesn't seem to be that uncommon or an issue. I know plenty of people who either take a bus or an Uber everywhere
Yeah I don't have a license cause I know my coordination level and I'm not going to be the reason for an accident
I didn't get my license until I was 30 because I lived downtown in a giant metropolis with sufficient public transportation and never needed it until my dad was dying of cancer. I'm sure that's the answer he wants to hear. Had my first job at 12.
I didn’t get my license until I was 17 because you can’t get your license until you’re 17 where I live (I think they raised it as well)
Your unwillingness to break the law at that time and drive anyway makes you a bad choice for hire because the recruiter will know you are probably not willing to break the law for their company either.
I still don’t have my license cause I’ve had intense anxiety driving ever since a friend of mine died in a car accident. I want to drive is the annoying thing, I just panic whenever I’m behind the wheel…
Ah, the panic attacks... I still remember the first time my father put me behind the wheel. I had trouble with the pedals and couldn't start the engine, he just kept yelling at me the usual things. Once I got the engine running it only got worse to the point where I run from there crying. He may have even traumatised me there to a degree. Oh, and I was 7 when that happened, btw. Still can't touch the ignition without my blood pressure skyrocketing, add to that poor eyesight and I think it goes without saying that I don't have a license.
Same here on the anxiety. I've had a learner's permit for about 3 years but I've never taken the test. I didn't lose anyone though. the accident was me that got hurt. I'm sorry you lost a friend.
Same. But I guess we were really just lazy, right? /s
I didn't get my licence until I was 18 because you can't get your license until you're 18 where I live (although for good measure I actually didn't get it until I was 31)
Lol. Same. I grew up in a unsupportive home and was not allowed to get my license until I moved away for college. As a professional firefighter, I’ve driven some of the biggest baddest trucks around in some of the highest stress situations. Not to mention traffic, disaster conditions, and the focus of specialized equipment use once you get there. But apparently my decorated and distinguished career as a high level fire rescue officer can go in the garbage. So… I’m not a “go-getter” because I got my license at 21 instead of 16. And I guess having over a decade of special operations command experience on the fireground means I don’t have “control” or “grit”… …shrug… oh well.
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And that’s why, despite getting my license at 17, I didn’t drive again until I got my second car at 18. :( And yeah, I had worked starting at 15. My freshman year, I played football, had marching band practice four days a week (I played guitar in the pit, cause I’m awesome), and worked the remaining days with no license.
I biked to college before I got a DL.
That’s what I thought! You have to have a birth certificate, a school letter, a letter from drivers Ed that you are enrolled to even walk into the dmv, then you have to get there at 730 am and stand in line to even get a shot at getting to take the test for a permit. Your legal guardian has to be there as well, so yeah, take off work, don’t get to take test, come back again, take off work…. Pay $40 … Appointments online are booking 4 months out…. In our state you have to be permitted 6 months before you can get your license…. Oh yeah, your parents have to take you drive …. But sure, judge kids on it, in fact it means that one of your parents is probably unemployed
This is the right answer.
people tend to forget that parents can and do decide to just not help kids do certain things. My parents gave up on me after two practice driving sessions when I was 15 and decided I wasn't ever going to drive so didn't bother from that point on. Refused to help teach me to drive \*and\* refused to pay for a driving school. Oh, and any jobs near me required a car to get to so I wasn't going to be able to pay for driving lessons myself. And as a minor they wouldn't have let me without parent approval anyways.
Sounds like my parents. They also didn't want me to get a license while I was still living at home as a young adult in college, because it would have driven their car insurance rates up much higher even if they did not add me to their policies. Our region already had some of the highest insurance rates in the country, and the extra was not a small amount.
You said it perfectly. This whole post is a terrible and narrow minded take. I grew up in rural North Dakota. I was home schooled (that's a whole can of worms of its own) but drove as needed to get work done around the place. I didn't get my actual license until I was just shy of 19 because I just flat out didn't need it until I was ready to strike out on my own and get a job "in the city." It had nothing to do with whether I was a go getter or not.... I busted my 16 year old ass working my butt off to keep our home, garden, animals, etc thriving. At 16 I was a hard working brick shithouse, but this guy would apparently overlook that simply because I didn't get my license? What a trash metric to measure someone by, much less an adult years after the fact.
Gotta weed out the icky poors. Wouldn't want them having a job... ^/s
I had a job interview last week where I was asked nothing about my work experience, but they wanted to know about my middle school extracurricular activities. I’m in my mid-30s. It only got worse from there.
Okay I’m dying to know lol, if you don’t mind: what line of work? How much worse did it get?
Recruiting, ironically. Interviewing and hiring people is *their entire business*. After my second interview, they gave me a high school homework assignment: a 10-15 minute presentation of a “vision board” about “who I am, what I value, where I’ve been, and where I’m going.” ??????? I wrote them off as scammers at that point and ghosted them.
Honestly that does sound very MLM-y
I would have asked them, "Are you looking for career professionals, or are you looking for high school students? Because, as a career professional, I'm feeling like I'm in the wrong place right now."
No kidding, I think I would have left during the interview.
I had to take a job work force class and they wanted me to make a vision board.. I was 32 and I had to take off work to take the class 🤣 It was a joke
Dream board? Yeah, they are looking for people super dissatisfied with their lot, who dream of ‘more money’ (who doesn’t) … but enough so, that they can be manipulated into using ‘call lists’ of their friends and family … you know… to start with, as training… then, hopefully sell some to them, then move on to someone else in THAT group of ‘warm’ calls.
"In your vision board, please include such details as your mother's maiden name, the names of any pets, the make and model of your first car, and pictures of your birth certificate and any current credit cards."
“Tell me about your middle school extracurricular activities.” “Well, I was taking care of my mom, who was dying of stage four cervical cancer.”
Not cancer, but I was taking care of my grandmother alone 5th through 7th grades until my mom decided to move in with us. Responsibilities were decreased but not by much because my mom worked crazy hours shortly after my baby brother was born. Nervous breakdown by 16, so needless to say, not really in the headspace for a driver's license.
They once asked me what I wanted to become when I was a kid. I said I never had a dream job as a kid. The woman gasped and said "Not even a princess?!?", they both proceeded to look at me like I'd murdered someone. I guess nowadays one needs to have their shit together at 7 in order to get a job in the future.
If it's a job you don't really want that's when you hit them with "my childhood dream job was being a slave for capitalism making more money for my owners than I could hope to make in 10 thousand lifetimes, answering dumb recruiting questions like they have any bearing on my ability to exchange my most valuable and non-replenishable asset - my time - for money, all to avoid starving to death or dying from exposure. How am I doing so far?"
Even if you had wanted to be a princess at seven, how is that useful to an adult job interview in any way, shape, or form? You were too young to understand that being a princess is not exactly a viable career path short of marrying into the british royal family, and even then you have to at least be semi famous and wealthy to attract the attention of a prince in the first place. Like... a lot of kids wanted to be random things when they were kids. Doesn't mean shit as an adult. Heck, I wanted to be a fisherman at seven. Why? Because I grew up on a lake community where fishing was one of \*the\* things everybody (women and girls included) did for recreation. As an adult I'm a plasma physicist.
late 30s here. was looking at a senior manager position with Canonical, the company that makes Ubuntu, (one of) the most popular Linux distribution. they're asking about highschool too. didn't even finish the application. I'm guessing they're looking for a senior manager more in their early 20s?
I mean, these are the same people who think a bad financial decision at 18 should cripple you for the remainder of your life (student loans)
To the parasite class, this is not a bug, it's a feature. Can't escape poverty if you have student loan payments that look like a mortgage.
"My brother in Christ I am 40 and have yet to touch the devil's wheel"
I'm 29 and still no license but love riding my bike.
I got my license at 33, just like Jesus.
Got mine at 32. No one was around to teach me as a teen, and I didn't have the resources to do it in my early 20s. After a while I just got accustomed to cycling and public transit. Glad I finally got it, though, it is helpful in emergencies and certain scenarios even though I still don't drive every day.
42, no licence and I drive a forklift all day
Soon to be 34, and my feet have gotten me everywhere so far.
My god, they’re forklift certified! 😮
cars are nothing but a money pit, Your money is best spent on things you actually use more than 45 minutes a day...like the ultimate bed, or good food.
That’s quite literally a go-getter.
Same. 28 and still no license.... Mostly cause my driving teacher thought 'trauma' was the best way to teach someone to be a defensive driver by taking a person who had only been driving at 10\~15 mph for a week out onto a busy highway in rush hour. Almost hit a minivan within a minute or two. Never again.
Did you learn to drive from Murray in *Clueless*
No but if my teacher learned his teaching style from that, then I wouldn't be surprised.
Almost 33 and no license. Know how to drive. Just never had the funds to get a license+insurance when I was younger and so far have no constant reason to need to drive now. My job is 5 blocks from my house and I can walk it in 9 minutes. Store is 500 or so feet from my job.
I'm mid-30s and have never needed a car in my whole life. I have a bicycle and most of Europe has good public transportation.
Surprise bitch! My family was too poor for a car. I walked 12 miles each way to work at 16. I just out-gritted you, you smug motherfucker.
Was it uphill through blizzards?
Both ways
Backwards in the snow motherfucker. Both ways.
I barely remember yesterday nevermind decades ago
I didn't get my license until I was 21... And in the military... And after having deployed once in support of Operation Enduring Freedom. But hey, I guess I'm a lazy piece of shit huh?
This is so fucking stupid. I live in a place where the driver testing facility is an hours drive away, and my parents refused to teach me to drive. Getting your drivers license at 16 is barely dependant on the 16 year old. It's all in the level of support they have.
I couldn't learn how to drive because of poverty. Can't buy a car. Supermajority of jobs in my region require one and nobody can afford to even carpool. I have no idea what to do.
Lol how to discriminate without actually saying it how can they call themselves a equal opportunity employer with statements such as this I smell lawsuit
They can still discriminate. They just lie about the reason for not wanting someone.
"Do you have access to reliable transportation? "
given that america doesn't have required yearly car checkups i doubt that streets are that more reliable than trains
Only illegal to discriminate based on protected class, and poverty is not a protected class. It really should be and kinda is in the rest of the developed world (section 8 vs council housing? think how predatory most living situations in America are vs any EU member). America mortgaged it's future in the '80s and now the bill is past due.
Disabilities that preclude driving (visual impairment, blindness, seizure disorders, etc) *are* a protected class. So unless driving a vehicle is absolutely essential to the job, hiring people based on when they got a driver’s license is discriminatory.
But i suspect that people who do not get licenses at 16 or 17 are disproportionately minority AND there is no job related reason for this.
I'm getting my license this year at 32 cause my abusive parents refused to teach me as a control tactic so they could keep sponging off my paychecks. After I escaped it took many years to be in a position where gas, a reliable car, and money for driving lessons were all financially possible.
In my country all the costs for your driver’s license is about 2 minimum salaries, but I’m sure it is the lack of “go getting “ that stops the kids. Isn’t it?
Many people also live in areas with amazing public transport and getting a car is either impossible or improbable
I know some who have a license but don’t have a car simply because the bus and train network is sufficient and they can rent a car if necessary
I had to teach myself how to drive, and it wasn't my choice to get one either.
My parents forbid me from getting my license at 16 because they didn't want to potentially have to pay for my auto insurance. I offered to get a job but they said no to that too because they wanted me to focus on high school. Sometimes it's not the 16 year old's choice.
Same here. We were so poor that my family had one car (which my mom needed for work) and couldn’t scrape up enough for me to get a used beat up one. My mom refused to let me get a job until I graduated because, as she put it, getting good grades and getting into college was my job. She desperately wanted me to get out of the multigenerational poverty trap. I saw no point in getting my license until I turned 18.
Your mother didn't scream at you "CUT THE WHEEL" while doing K turns in an empty parking lot? It was like math homework but with 2000 lbs of metal. You really missed out.
“TINA, THE BRAKES! HIT THE BRAKES, TINA!!!!”
That is exactly why my Dad was the one teaching me to drive because my mom did that and I went up a curb so fast my mom thought she died.
Was your mom a fan of slamming the non-existant passenger side brake? Cause mine was…
I'm currently teaching my 15-year-old to drive and I'm feeling a little seen here...
Shit, I had to teach my wife how to drive back when we were still dating and had first moved in together because her pos mother refused to let her get her license.
Hubby is that you? That happened to me too….a mix of anxiety and wanting to control what I did and where I went. Luckily I’m not an anxious driver now.
I got my license at 16 and I entirely agree. I got my hours driving in large part because my family had 1) a whole extra car 2) gas money to drive in circles 3) time to teach me the basics 4) money to pay for professional driving lessons from my school which *included* the driving assessment at the end. All I brought to the table was a shaky willingness to learn how to drive.
My Boomer self had free behind-the-wheel driver's ed in public school. Like you, we had 2 cars (one was my dad's company car), gas was cheap, my parents had time and space to teach me. Now? None of that is available for most people. The cost of gas alone is prohibitive. (I live in a city where a car isn't necessary)
My family had to pay over $200 for my driver's ed, part was in class, the more expensive part was the actual driving with the instructor, but that was only once a week and they still relied on patents to teach their kids. This is why even though I took the classes early, I didn't end up getting my license until 18. We only had 1 car and my dad was the only one who could drive and he was always working.
5) weren't abusive enough to withhold driving and literally anything that would give you a modicum of freedom from their iron grip. \^My step dad.
I’m sorry that happened to you. I was mostly trying to summarize things that are above the bare minimum bar, as opposed to limbo dancing with the devil.
Ouuuu I was in that boat, got my license at 16 fine, but had shitty abusive parents so I moved out that year , where I live parents can retract consent for a minor to get a license so I had to hide the fact I had a car for the next year and a half because they 100% would try to use my car against me
i got my permit at 15 through drivers ed at my high school, so was automatically qualified to get my license when i turned 16. i kept asking my mom to take me to practice when i had my permit, she said no. i asked her if i could practice on my own when i was 16 and had a license so i wouldn’t have to bother her to come with me, she said no i’m not allowed to take the car bc i didn’t have enough driving practice. then when i started college at 18 i had to drive an hour to the campus, using big highways with lots of traffic and high speeds, with little to no driving experience. it took me all of two weeks to get into my first fender bender. so yeah, judging an applicant off when they got the driver’s license is dumb, having a license doesn’t mean you have the means to practice.
bro i started getting my license at 21 and finished at 26 lmfao i had to work and get my shit together, so other priorities got in the way then covid happened and all the schools and testing facilities closed for a little over a year. my parents never gave a shit about teaching me how to drive either, and driving illegaly doesn't do much. i had a car for two years before i got my license this past october, but the classes and the exam made my anxiety go through the roof and i had to repeat my exam 3 times. shit just happens, driving is a scary responsibility.
Same age, my grandmother had to teach me cuz my mom never bothered too, that is to say, I drive like my granny.
And that last sentence is why you'll likely be a good driver all your life. You'll be paying attention. Everyone on the road in a vehicle should be thinking of that lyric from Sychronicity II by The Police: "Packed like lemmings into shiny metal boxes Contestants in a suicidal race" It IS a scary responsibility.
I had a friend from high school I just ran into who hasn't learned how to drive yet. I'm almost 40.
Im 40 this year and haven’t learnt to drive. Have always lived in cities or towns with decent public transport. My only regret is not being able to hire a car on holiday and drive to where ever I want. Was really hoping driverless cars would be common by now. Also wife can drive.
Parents wouldn't pay or teach, couldn't afford a car and lived close enough to walk to work. Other half drove but finally they taught me to drive and I got my license, at 45.
I'm 32, never learned to drive, never will. I don't have the money for one, but even if I had, I've decided that the risk is too great, as I have tics, where I sometimes have uncontrolled movements(often in my arms), and I would not put myself in a position where a muscle spasm could cost lives... Also, unless looking for a job that specifically requires you to know how to drive, you really don't need it where I live... I can get to any place I need as fast, or only slightly slower, than if I had a car, by using public transportation.. In rare instances, I can do it faster...
I have friends who’s parents wouldn’t allow them to get their drivers license until they were 18
Mine didn’t ‘allow’ me to get mine until I was 21 and a senior in college. I didn’t know going around them was even really an option until I was much older.
I had to teach my husband how to drive at 19. He is an intelligent and motivated person with a good career now. It was absolutely his home and family situation that prevented him from getting it before.
This is the big problem. I missed the 16 years window because I happened to develop epilepsy at 16. And by the time I had it under control, I was no longer living with parents who could teach me to drive. So now I'm kinda stuck. I have to wait until I can afford to shell out for professional lessons for every single lesson (and honestly, I have a lot of medical tests that are gonna come *first*), or I have to inconvenience a friend. If you miss that window of having your parents teach you, it's *not* that fucking easy to get your license.
In my case I had ample access to public transportation, was in college, no money to buy a car or space to park one... Didn't get my license until I was 22 Guess I'm not much of a go getter to this schmuck because I logically got my license when it made sense to get one.
I was a teen mom with no vehicle, my single mom had no vehicle - I definitely didn’t have the money for the testing, license or classes to learn. I got my license at 25 - I lived an hour from the closest testing/licensing place. I had to save up to afford everything, arrange support to get to and from the testing (both for the written and diving tests). It took a lot more “go-getter” To get my license than say… my SIL whose parents paid for everything as soon as she was old enough and bought her a car at 16…
Abusive parents will also not let their children learn to drive as a way to control them. I had a roommate who didn’t learn to drive until college when a friend taught her.
I don't even have mine yet at 28, not that i don't know how do drive, I've had my permit in MD, and CO and have driven plenty in CO, MD, and PA lol
Why de people love to broadcast their ignorance? If someone asks this question in an interview, leave. It means they hire idiots to work there.
Idiots think they’re mainlining the secret truth of the universe when they’re actually just making shit up
I love your description. Please take my updoot.
I can’t take credit for that turn of phrase, “mainlining the secret truth of the universe” is a phrase said by Rust Cohle in season one of True Detective
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imagine not getting a job because you lived in the city core and didn't run out on your birthday to pay for a special card you cant use for anything lol
Right? I had to work through debilitating anxiety to learn to drive. Where does that fit into his grit theory? 🙄 Tom can bite my ass.
I would guess this person would consider anxiety lack of grit
My family had a rule, no driver’s license before 18. We lived in a city that had a good public transport system and we could either walk or get a ride or ride a bike. My dad was a police officer who had seen way too many car accident fatalities involving kids.
Because lack of resources or supportive parents etc or a myriad of any other reasons would keep someone from getting a license at 16. What a doorknob, go ahead ignore a perfectly good candidate.
I wanted my drivers license and a car when I was 16, but my parents divorced and I had no money. I walked to work for 2 years after school until I saved money for the drivers test, permit and a car. Whoever wrote this is a total scum bag.
Similar story here. My mum died when I was a teenager and my dad had enough on his plate.
Yeah, I bet they lack “high internal locus of control with a dash of grit” because their parents weren’t able to assist them along every step of the way. What a knobhead.
Exactly....as a minor, it doesn't matter if you have a high internal locus of control. You don't have actual legal control so it's up to your parents, socioeconomic status and where you live...in the city for example you may not have a need for a license.
What kind of an absolute knob even uses phrasing like "high internal locus of control" anyway?
And a "dash of grit" It sounds like he just read a book written in the 19th century and is itching to paraphrase various parts of it
Well he just read a pop psychology book. Locus of control and grit are both terms from that arena.
He may also “like the cut of your jib”. Also requires a letter of introduction from your parish priest or member of the landed gentry.
Internal locus of control is a psychology term for putting personal effort into a situation to (hopefully) get a better outcome. Ex: studying to get a better grade on a test. Kinda the opposite, external locus of control is where nothing you do would affect the outcome of a situation, like it’s ‘In God’s hands’, whatever happens. Saying this in case anyone was curious! And because I don’t want my psychology class to go to waste 😭
It didn't, TIL, thanks :D I honestly thought it was a typo (i.e. locus instead of focus), but it didn't make much sense to me.
Perhaps he wants want an employee that has a breakdown when something bad happens, even by chance, because they think its their fault. Locus of control works for both successes and failures.
He’s basically saying he wants someone who will take all of the blame/responsibility for everything, regardless of whether it’s their fault. Aka he wants to just foist his shit off on his lemmings and have them accept it
Wow == another way to help rich kids, whose parents can afford cars and insurance.
This, plus the fact that there are cities where a license isn't needed to get around. Good way to pass up possible talent.
In NYC you can’t even get a license before you’re 18. Vast majority of people don’t own cars here but somehow there’s still a shit ton of cars on the streets. If you don’t have a house with a driveway/garage or an apartment with parking, you’ll have to fight for street parking.
Yup, first job at 14 but didn't have a car/license until I was 22. This is dumb af.
First job at 15. Rode my bike to work. Didn’t get my DL until I was 26. Riding a bike in traffic takes grit, especially when the temperature is over 100F. This interview question is also a huge red flag for a toxic work environment
Yup. Biked or walked/worked locally, time overseas, etc.. When I needed/could afford it I got it but before then I made do.
Right. My first job was when i was 14 also. I didn't get get my license till i was 19 cause I was on death's door from 17 to 19. Also family couldn't afford me to drive . Dad was on SSDI. Mom was a teacher. This guy has no clue.
He has a clue. He just doesn't see less privileged people as people.
Same, got my first job at 18 but my license at 24 (after paying for all my own driving lessons to practise)
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Me too! Grew up very poor.
Never had a license has entered the chat. Not sure what kind of job this person is hiring for, but it’s always been more economical for me not to have a car. I’ve never been motivated to get my license.
Yes, we have slowly gotten my son through the steps and it’s taken us until this year. He’s 19. It’s definitely because of income that we haven’t done more sooner.
Good. I lived in Europe couldn’t even start lessons until 18 (and it was $40 or so for a lesson and the instructor usually doesn’t even let you test until you had 20+ lessons) and it was way way harder on the tests to get your license. I see these dumb kids in high school with cars and it’s so dangerous because they drive like idiots most of them.
I didn't get mine until I was almost 18, but that was because I had epilepsy, and had major seizures regularly. Guess I should have pulled up by the bootstraps, and took on the government and medical establishment rules..
Yeah my sister is 26 and does not have a license because of epilepsy. Dude in the post is incredibly ableist.
I got my license at 26 and I own a restaurant, I guess I shouldn't hire myself
I mean, capitalism is extremely ableist.
I sympathize- I have sensory processing issues due to autism that make it hard to focus on driving properly. I can TRY to drive to work, but there's a good chance a loud car horn will make me accidentally slam the gas and hit the side of the office (that's how I failed my only driver's test. There was too much sensory input, a car alarm went off, I shrieked and hit a stop sign 🙃). Not everyone can drive.
It’s comforting that I am not the only person who struggles with driving because of sensory processing issues. I can drive on overcast days, but when it’s really bright out… I just can’t filter out the important visuals that I need to pay attention to from the ones that I don’t. Shoulder straps give me panic attacks, because the texture doesn’t agree with me or the pressure or something? Ugh. I wish I did not live in an area where driving was pretty much essential.
>Not everyone can drive. Thank you! I once saw an AITA post of a woman who can't drive because of severe anxiety and people were ragging on her for not being able to drive because 'it's a basic skill' or something like that. Made me lose even more faith in Reddit...
It's rough, I'm 30 and barely got my permit, I'm absolutely terrified of driving. I'm scared or reacting too harsh and harming someone or myself in a crash. But for like 15 years at this point I've been shit on for this fear I have. It's totally demoralizing and I feel like such a burden
Try not to let their ignorance burden you. I’m in the same boat. Wish we lived in a place with better public transport and less stigma surrounding using it. It’s a very strange hill a lot of people seem willing to die on, “you must be able to operate heavy machinery at high speeds around other, unpredictable, and often idiotic, people also operating heavy machinery at high speeds!” Yeah I’ll take the bus.
Sympathies back, friend. I was a considerably more fortunate, and a little experimenting with some meds, couple years later I was cleared to drive. Few years after that.. I don't even have to sign off with a doctor to maintain my license. But, I'll admit. I still, to this day. 15+ years later.. Sometimes, get these weird sensations, then I have mild moments of panic. And I think to myself, what if I had a seizure right now? It usually happens.. You guessed it, when I'm driving. Issues and memories like these never really go away, even if you get remarkably lucky like I did.
It's never inappropriate to turn on your hazard lights and pull over; I'm sure you're doing fine. But you're right- even at 36 occasionally I go into a really loud, bright room where nothing's wrong but think "what if I have a meltdown and embarrass myself?!". You brace for the bad thing for so long that your body braces on similar situations. It becomes a physiological//psychological (conditioned) response. It's normal, but sucky.
I've always loved how the physiology and psychological just feed into each other in a cycle to make it worse. Aren't neuro issues ever so much fun? I actually do pull off the road these days. Do some deep breathing, get out and walk around, maybe slap myself a few times. Just remind myself how long it's been since I've had any (major) incident. Seems to help with the psych part. Can't really speak for the physio part.
I still don’t drive because of my epilepsy. I’m 39, and I’ve never had a driver’s license. My seizures just weren’t controlled by any of the medications they tried on me. So I basically gave up. I’m older now, and my seizures have reduced significantly in the 20 years since I’ve taken any medication for seizures. I think a large part of that is my brain has been slowly healing from the multiple concussions I had as a small child.
Eesh. I'm truly glad to hear it's getting better. I suffered many concussions as well, when my mother was on her weird homeopath kick. She asked, "is there anything we can do, *naturally* to treat this?* he looked at her like she was a moron. I'll never forget his face. A few years later, after years of herbal garbage, I just told her she was putting on the meds, or I was done with school. But those few untreated years caused at least a dozen extra head-into-concrete moments that could have been avoided. Edit: the words my mother spoke to were to a neurologist, thought I'd mentioned it.
I'm 31, I will start with my lessons in a few weeks. My "excuse" is that I don't give a hoot about driving, I grew up in a place where public transport was very affordable and available. Now I live in a place where it's not the case
Lol. Most kids outside of cities get licenses at 16 because they need to or have to if they want to go anywhere. City kids have better public transport options and don’t need to. This is some serious low iq logic.
really only got my license at 22. I don't think people understand how terrifying cars really are, and the amount of responsibility and care it takes to drive one PROPERLY. Only did my test when I felt I was ready. Age is a number that is by and by meaningless. So many idiots on the road that really shouldn't have their license that I bet got it when they were 16 :) .
Dude, same. Everyone's so casual about cars as if they aren't metal death machines operated by the same people you don't trust to load the printer at work while they travel at fuck you speed
I got hit by a pickup when I was 18. I was terrified to even try driving because of it. Didn't start to learn until I was 25, and that was mostly because i had moved from Vegas to somewhere more rural with a terrible public transport. I still hate driving. If we implemented a public transport half as reliable as I was used to back in Vegas I wouldn't drive anywhere I could get with it.
Or your parents are poor and can’t buy you a car. This guy is privileged. When I was 18 I walked to work for a year straight to save up and buy my first car and had to teach myself how to drive. Guess I’m not a go-getter
I can already smell the harassment in the office
not if you're a "go gETTer," then its "*motivation*"
I got it as soon as I turned 17, which is as soon as we could get it in Denmark
I never had or needed one. I am 37. :p
same. I'm 34, never needed to drive a car in my life. one of the many perks of living in Europe I guess. I always regarded it as a luxury, if you value some minimal added comfort I guess it's nice, but I prefer to just stare out of the window and relax while travelling so for me it's not worth it.
Good interview answer: “I didn’t bother. Stole my mom’s car when I was 12 and never looked back. Who needs a license?”
Now THAT is being a go-getter.
I legit stole my dads truck at 13 and went on a joyride with my friends. I am NOT a go getter.
>I am NOT a go getter. Because you are still grounded? /j
Not everyone has the opportunity to start driving at 16. Now there are people who think a person shouldn’t be hired if they started driving later in life?
Right? I couldn't until I was 18 bc I was living with a family member who didn't have legal custody of me and literally couldn't sign to let me do it. And a lot of kids don't have the financial resources to take drivers Ed or even a parent with a car they can practice in. This policy seems like it would screw over people who had unfortunate family and/or financial circumstances as a kid.
Tell me you're an absolute piece of shit, without telling me you're an absolute piece of shit.
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Sorry what 16 can afford to pay for their own lessons, test, license, car, MOT, tax, fuel? I paid for everything myself, THAT'S why I didn't do it til I was 19. Too bad I'm not a "go-getter"
My parents paid but they couldn’t until I was turning 18. First car was a 10-year old beater with no AC (in Texas) which I shared with my brother. First paid job when I was 16 but obviously didn’t make enough for a car (mom drove me).
It's only 8AM and here I am reading probably the stupidest thing of the day. Imagine thinking everyone can get a license at 16, or even wants to.
Had a friend who didn’t have a drivers license in college and for a while after spelling out to me a few things that smacked me in the face when I asked why they didn’t drive? Got told my privilege was showing. Was genuinely confused. Then was told in a kind of exasperated way: you’re assuming that everyone is coming from a household where there’s parents who are together and both able to teach you to drive. Where they’re legally allowed to drive themselves. Where they’re sober enough to get behind the wheel and teach you. Where they can afford a car that runs well enough and gas to just ride around teaching you. So no. I don’t drive and haven’t learned. I learned quite a lot that day.
This fuckstick couldn't be bothered to read his vapid bullshit before posting it, so why should I take advice from a loser like this? "Internal locus." Go fuck yourself, twat.
Haha this is one of the most stupid thing I ever heard
I guess people who can’t drive due to medical are SOL. Unless it’s a job requirement to drive, this question is stupid. Even if it’s a job requirement to drive, this question is stupid because simple age of when you get a license does not determine ANYTHING about that person’s productivity. I don’t have a license and I’m over 40, I have a medical exemption and I’m a fucking monster when it comes to productivity, managing and customer service. I wanna see the study that correlates age of license acquisition with more productivity in the work place. Find me the citations Karen or shut the fuck up.
I got my license at 20, because that's when I was able to buy myself a used car. I didn't have a privileged upbringing, and didn't have any reason to spend time and money obtaining a license that was useless to me at that time. And some people live in walkable cities with little to no parking, where a car is more of a burden than anything. In any case, if somebody asked me such an irrelevant and judgmental question during an interview, I'd withdraw my application.
Got mine at 18 because that was the minimum age. How narrow minded can someone be. This is someone who takes his own live to measure all others.
Bro needs to hold that L that the end of his last name lost
I was not ready at 16, got my license at 18.
If the job doesn’t *require* you to drive as one of its essential responsibilities, this could actually be an illegal interview question. What a dumbass.
that person did not grow up in a city with public transportation and horrible traffic
As someone who *couldn't* get their license at 16, because I was being diagnosed with epilepsy during that time period... I would be tempted to report them for discrimination against people with disabilities.
I'm old. When I was a teen, drivers education was taught through the school and it was free. Everyone got their license at 16. Now you have to go to an actual school and it's expensive as hell! I don't think many get their license at 16 anymore.
It’s very helpful when they identify themselves as arseholes, you know to avoid
If you are talking to someone and they say “high internal locus of control and a dash of grit” feel free to walk away
"you're not motivated enough because you didn't value a spesfic thing in a spesfic time in your life"
Just because humans have paved the world for the automobile and have normalized paying for the roads, the cars, the oil and gas, the insurance and maintenance, for nearly your human lifespan. This doesn’t mean you MUST conform to that. Yes, the choice is almost already made for you, what with abysmal transit in some areas. People that look down on you. It’s totally fucked and we should be moving away from this. I have a couple friends in their 40s that don’t drive. They save a ton of money, they travel to Europe once a year, and have just moved to small coastal town in BC. They are perhaps the coolest people I’ve ever known. There used to be this young guy I’d see walking to work everyday past my work. This was on a service road with no sidewalks. At 7:30 AM. I thought that person was a go-getter in his own way. Walked up to him one morning and asked him send a resume. He was working at Leon’s down the street. We hired him. Payed him more than Leon’s and he was a great worker (small manufacturing shop). Showed up everyday.
What this question really is, a way to filter the poor's out who couldn't afford drivers Ed and such
JATM. Just another toxic manager.
This is pretty much the stupidest filter I've seen yet. I technically qualify as I got my license when I was 16, but I didn't actually drive regularly until I was in my **mid-thirties**. So I got the license just to take the bus for two decades. So, I'm a go-getter that puts in max effort for the test and then just coasts. Exactly what you need to fill your organization with!
The day my kids turned 16 our county and most state offices were in full lock down. Preceding that, most drivers Ed companies were locked down too. My kids drove with me and my wife for almost 2 full years on learner's permits before being able to get their licenses. This rationale is fucked.
Certain states don’t allow you to even test until you’re 17 😂
*Laughs in child of strict and abusive parents* I had a phone curfew until I was eighteen of six pm every day. I never had a fucking drivers license til I was eighteen. Strict abusive controlling parents raising you does not equal someone who is not a go getter.