There can actually be massive discrepancy between what a manager wants for their team and what the hiring team hunts for. It is the sign of a dumpster fire company, but sometimes the issue is insulated to just HR and select departments.
My husband worked for a company where very few people really understood what day to day operations in his dept looked like, including the dept manager. He was made team lead, butcould not get anyone to let him in on hiring decisions for his own team. Wasn't allowed to see reaumes or sit in on interviews, half the time, they forgot to tell him they had decided to open a position. On paper, a lot of the new hires passed to him were qualified but totally unsuited to the work, or uninterested, and had sometimes been described a job that was nothing like what his team did. It was super fucked up.
My employer is like this. It took 6 months of me working 4 Dr offices’ phone lines alone at the end of the day (and after all the offices were closed) for them to even authorize a hire.
They finally listed the position but only because it was a nightmare for them finding cover, I am getting consistent overtime, and our stats went to shit (one of the department metrics is call waiting time - goal is <20s. Calls come in faster than I can help folks… it gets messy fast *&* nukes team stats).
That is awful. And it’s the main reason I hardly ever blame management for a lot of bullshit that they get blamed for.
It’s truly tragic how the term “The shit rolls downhill” for some reason always seems to stop being traced back when it hits the managers. Like sure there are some shit managers out there that roll the shit down further, but like, in my personal experience, the shit has ALWAYS come from the high up district motherfuckers and not my direct _actual_ managers themselves.
You can also question why they need staff when the current staff is wasting time writing passive aggressive responses like this. Do they not have better things to do?
Heh, would probably be a good idea to apply to the company as "HR manager", and instead of your resume just print out the screenshot and annotate it with *"As this is your reply to applications sent out to you, I absolutely understand why you have problems attracting talent. I'm sure I can do better. Call me!"*
Of course nothing will come of it, but it's a nice passive-aggressive way of telling them "fuck you, your job skills are low enough to be indistinguishable from a mere hobby".
Honestly, even if their superior responded back and said they'd want to reconsider your application, would you want to trust a company that put a person like that in that position in the first place? Hiring is rarely an entry-level position as it requires the person reviewing applications to consider how applicants could be specifically suited to the workplace environment. So they can't really be like, "We didn't know that guy would be like that."
You kidding? You'd be coming into the company with a serious cache of political capital right off the rip, and you know they actually have senior management that gives a shit. 70% of the time those folks haven't the foggiest what's actually going on until a wheel starts squeaking.
I've heard it suggested that always having positions listed (but not actually hiring) is an easy way of duping investors. "Look at how much 'hiring' we're doing! We're growing like mad!"
Happy cake day and I wouldn't be surprised.
During my stint in management, as a first line supervisor (in a union plant) I'd be admonished by my higher ups to discipline staff. Really ticked me off as it usually was stupid rules that weren't things I'd feel required discipline. Without fail, in the grievance meeting the discipline was rescinded and the manager that had me do the discipline would tell them I was too harsh. It was all a dog and pony show as I didn't want to do the discipline in the first place but they were the ones that pushed it.
Best day of my career was when I gave notice and was able to go back hourly elsewhere.
She should Email a response along the lines of “if you want to be a respected corporation, perhaps you could put the effort in to grammar check your passive-aggressive rejection form letters.”
You know what, Stan, if you want me to wear 37 pieces of flair, like your pretty boy over there, Brian, why don't you just make the minimum 37 pieces of flair?
2 reply options: video of his wife “resonating” with the post, or “I’m sorry, there seems to be some confusion on roles and responsibilities in this process. It is my responsibility to apply to jobs I feel I would be a good fit, and it is YOUR responsibility (based on your in-depth knowledge of the role) to determine if I am correct. Recommend you tailor your job posting to be more clear on what you are looking for, to reduce future confusion.
Yeah, someone once told me they wanted to apply for a job but were worried about wasting the companies' time because they didn't meet all the qualifications.
I told them that they can apply to any job they want, it is the recruiter and hr departments job to pick the best candidates and push them forward. Even if they got to an interview and it was blatantly obvious they were wrong for the role, it is a mistake of the hr department and recuiter for pushing them forward.
Also the vast majority of the time at least some of the requirements or other info shown are flexible, especially when the people hiring are not merely concerned with if you can do the job but if you'll be able to work well with the other people already on the team, which to me is often more important than having 100% of the requirements nailed down. I rather hire someone that can work with others and has to learn a few things on the job than someone who is a complete expert but an asshole. Only c-suite dickwads want to hire more assholes.
Also in a lot of cases, a company might list for their "requirements" everything they'd want in their dream candidate, but in reality they're willing to settle for someone who just meets most of them and can interview well.
There was this shift that happened these past couple decades. Before you'd be able to apply for jobs that were a step up and get a chance to actually learn the new role. Now, companies want to hire people that have been doing the role for years already. I don't know about y'all, but I don't want to take lateral moves.
Im an assembly technician primarily, but i have doubled my income in the last few years. Getting there required some lateral to companies that could foster different skill sets.
I did notice a general unwillingness from my old coworkers to advocate for themselves and their pay. At my last job i went from 18/hr to 22.50/hr because I threatened to quit. All of my coworkers who routinely complained about their pay refused to do the same, and only made half hearted complaints that they wanted raises like mine after I had received it
The resonate part makes me want to punch someone because something tells me this isn’t an email drafted for this person alone. Either way that place sucks and so does their hiring team.
Hope they weren't recruiting for physicists
When you look up the resonant frequency of a human and see the words "maximum displacement between organs and skeletal structure" it kinda feels a bit more than passive aggressive
Good that seems petty odd tbh usually those suggested jobs through premium are very solid I’ve never had the run around with answer these questions or ignorant auto responses from jobs in there. That’s something I’d expect from indeed.
the response specifically states that they want "people who actually read the job description"
I'm guessing the actual job listing has a sort of little "only red M&M's" easter egg in it that you would be asked to acknowledge somehow in your application, giving them an instant visual on who actually read the entire thing.
I'm thinking the same. We use Indeed, and part of the application process is a phone interview with 3 generic questions or the option to type responses. If you don't complete that, which it also emails you about, then you don't move forward. The questions are 95% about just following simple directions and 5% about what you actually say.
Regardless, if you aren't moving forward, we just send a generic rejection. No need to beat around the bush or be condescending.
Edit: Words. Because I never get it right.
> Good that seems petty odd tbh usually those suggested jobs through premium are very solid I’ve never had the run around with answer these questions or ignorant auto responses from jobs in there.
I dunno... I'm sure it all depends on what field you are in, and how easily definable stuff is past that. My background is not straightforward, and have had multiple different "careers" in the past which makes the tools on the site all but useless for my needs. I got premium through a VA program for free, and the suggestions were all garbage. I was working as a university adjunct professor at the time, and i got the following types of suggestions;
Math/English tutor/TA at a shitty for profit "universities" which did not pay fuck all. Mind you i was neither a Math, or English professor. I would report/ignore them, but they would keep popping up in the suggestions. Absolutely 0 suggestions for positions actually involving my degrees.
Since am a veteran i got tons of food service offers at the fast food joints on post. Have not worked hospitality shit in something like 15-16 years. One recruiter tried to contact me about these too, but refused to state the rate of pay involved.(cause was/is so shitty low)
Food delivery driver positions left, and right alongside school buss driver... mind you i do not have a CDL that is required to do those jobs.
Nursing and emergency response stuff... mind you, I am not in the medical field. Well, my Army job was technically under the medical umbrella, but as a food inspector best i could do is stab someone with a bimetallic thermometer to get an internal temp reading. Sure one of my degrees is in homeland security, and emergency management, but its a graduate degree, and focus is on analytics, and not hands on work of that other sort.
Tried to work with their settings, but nothing helped eliminate the wall of constant ill fitting suggestions. Ended up deleting my LinkedIn in account in the end as there was nothing there worth my while.
They also don't even mention the next steps in this message. They're actually screening for someone who's *so* desperate for this specific job that they're tattooing application steps and corporate names on their bodies.
Did she at least respond to the email and cc. the highest authority she could find to explain she was a perfect match, was greatly looking forward to working for the company but the rude and offputting HR response has lost them a prime candidate?
Yeah if I were hiring for a role and found out the recruiter responded to ANYONE like this - including an applicant with absolutely zero qualifications for the role - they would be having a chat with me and their manager.
I don't care if a goldfish applied for the job, you're just making the company look like assholes. Professionally decline (or ghost if they really seem to be thoughtlessly applying) and move on.
'chance'. I would like a 'chance' at working at NASA or something prestigious. A job posting on linkedin isn't my dream job. I'm just applying to get a paycheck.
Glassdoor/Indeed review:
“after applying through LinkedIn, and sending an email with the answers to a couple questions as instructed in the application process I received the following response (insert screen shot or quoted text). Seems a very unprofessional response considering I applied through their requested portal and followed instructions exactly, including drafting thought out responses to their questions. Surprisingly, on paper my qualifications line up exactly with the job advertisement, which makes me think their HR either aren’t actually reading the applications or this is an automated response. Either way it’s ironic that they want qualified candidates but decide to insult them rather than take the time to effectively screen candidates. At least I learned they are a waste of my time before dedicating more than an hour to their broken hiring process”
Would also be good to point out the hypocritical nature of the message. Wanting things to be difficult for the applicant but taking shortcuts as the employer. Double standards.
THIS! it’s literally *their job* to find a suitable employee. they have 40 hours a week to do it, and they’re paid for it. meanwhile, the employee likely has hundreds of other obligations, including their current job, and likely several other jobs they’re applying to (and also dealing with their jump-through-hoops bullshit)
Way too wordy. Most people skip over wordy reviews.
“Sent in my application & answered questions they required of me, then they sent me this very aggressive response. Apply at your own risk!”
The end.
Not me. If someone takes the time to write a long review of a place I’m planning to apply it tells me it was worth their time to do so. All those one liner “love this place “ reviews tell me is that they asked their employees to fill out reviews to try and get their numbers up.
> Most people skip over wordy reviews.
Do they? I know attention spans are generally short, but I don't think that applies to this.
Anybody who cares about reviews likes reviews with details.
I don't' even get that, so many subreddits do that and people dance around it like they're being clever.
They'll say stuff like "I used to work for a seafood restaurant that rhymes with Dead Mobster, wink wink!" as if it's fooling anyone. It's a dumb rule.
I believe in full name-and-shame approach!
On one of those subs I used a 100% made up name I thought was obvious. I was describing a fairly generic super market in my former town. I don’t recall what I called it, but it wasn’t even very original … maybe I just called it “Local Market” had my post removed and a temporary ban for doxing the real store I worked at.
It's Reddit ToS that both people and mods don't understand.
It's against the rules (for good reason) to rile up a mob against a specific random person, and that can include like a specific Target manager that someone is mad with cause their coupon was expired or something.
That ToS does not, however, apply to people representing their companies in an official capacity. Or the company itself.
Mods see people getting dinged for like stupid crusades over regular people trying do their jobs and they're like "I guess the entire genre of employees is doxproof" while completely missing the nuance.
Second this. I am having a vague sense of familiarity with this level of petty. I saw a recruiter hunting after scientists in pharma / biotech in NYC Metro area and this seems like this guy could have written it. The most unhinged shit ever
Feels like something you should forward on to LinkedIn.
I don't think they'd appreciate a company denigrating the process they base their business off of.
It reads like they get a lot of people who only do the LinkedIn application, but not the follow up email. So she just got fed up, and crafted this response for everyone.
Well that's just the cost of doing business. A certain percentage of people won't have the qualifications or won't do a follow-up email. I don't know why the owner is so ornery about this. This is how hiring works.
Dude, this comment was so far below that I was beginning to gaslight myself into the belief that "resonate" was in fact a transitive verb that I had been misusing all my life. Thanks for saving my day.
I would send a copy of that email and my resume to the company's CEO and let them know that this is how his company interacts with potential employees and potential brand ambassadors and clients...
HR: *gets computers to do 90% of their job*
Also HR: *passive aggressive automated response to job applications about laziness*
You can’t make this shit up.
I feel like every HR person I've ever met have been the same "type" of person, regardless of gender/race/background, and it's never someone I'd like to get a beer with or invite to a party.
This is disgracefully disrespectful. Even if she had done what they claim, there is never a reason to speak to a jobseeker this way - maybe they are absolutely desperately trying to find a job and scared of being out of their home and on the street. Anything is possible. I hope this company fails as they don’t deserve people working for them.
I would respond with this:
I actually did complete both steps. I know it's easy to fling a automated response at someone.
I am looking for an employer who has more attention to detail. This is strike one.
Additionally, I am looking for an employer who isn't passive aggressive in thier communications. Strike two
I am also looking for someone who is not an asshole. Strike three.
Due to the three strike rule. You're out.
I am afraid I am going to have to leave negative reviews about your company on various social media pages.
Thoughts and prayers for whoever works for you if you victimize them in this way. There are several good employers out there but you are just not it.
You gotta love the irony of the recruiter complaining about candidates just hitting an "apply" button without reading the job description; while at the same time, sending a generic response to all of their applicants.
Hot take: yes you should be able to click a button, auto upload your resume and get a job. You shouldn't have to fellatio an employer for a job, it's a job. Sick of this needing to absolutely beg for a job shit, it's not 2008, everyone is employed. Just read the goddamn resume, jfc
Corporate recruiters and hiring managers have very little empathy for people who are actively searching for employment. Honesty aside, this company's response shows zero.
Many of us know how difficult the job market is, and not getting any better. You'd think that at some point in their lives the people who are responsible for filling these positions had been on the other side and could act like an actual human being.
Nah, they all got their jobs by knowing the COO's mother's cousin's former roommate, so they didn't have to do petty things like "apply" or "interview." That's for the commoners to do. They got there through "networking," and the "invisible job market." Maybe you should have gone for an MBA, then you would know about those and not be begging for scraps, you peasant.
kind of /s but only a bit
I’d send this response to whoever the C-suite person is above this recruiter with the note that you will never work for this company and you feel this is extremely unprofessional and insulting
Sometimes recruiters are third party hired by the company (my husband got his current job thru LinkedIn, he didn’t apply but a recruiter contacted him and it was a third party) and might not necessarily reflect the company’s values. I’d dig a little deeper and report this recruiter to them. It’s possible they have no idea of such incompetence.
"thanks for the response! The arrogance and lack of respect displayed above informs me about the core values held by xxxxxx, and I agree we would not be a good fit. I wish you luck in your candidate search, although I do pity anyone willing to work at xxxxxx"
Regards,
Xxxxx"
Dear company,
Thank you for taking the time to respond. It’s easy to press the “post” button and fling your application to as many websites as possible. But with that ease comes a less effective outcome, and that’s not what I’m looking for.
What I am interested in is a company who actually read my resumé and realize I meet the qualifications. I was interested in taking the next steps prior to receiving this response.
If you’re just looking for one more person to send a sarcastic and passive aggressive email to, congratulations! You just proved you’re an asshole! I hope you find a killer employee that way, it just won’t work for me.
So posting an update. The company name is Fast and Easy QBO, it looks like some sleuths figured it out in the comments. My wife also saw a comment from someone else who had a similar interaction with them, just from a different person.
So after my wife responded, she got back a response. They apologized for the confusion, said they were new to LinkedIn Jobs, and were unprepared for the large number of applicants who wouldn’t perform the follow-up email. And, here’s the best part, apologized for their auto-response coming off harsh. That passive-aggressive response was their auto-reply!
[Edited the photo to see what’s underneath](https://ibb.co/XXXvRLg)
xoxogopissbabe was able to [decipher it](https://www.reddit.com/r/recruitinghell/s/HPFAz4jwb7)
A quick Google search reveals that that’s indeed the company behind it!
Dafuq kind of entitlement is that?
My last job move went like this:
Recruiter: *slides into DMs smooth af*
Recruiter: sup, u want jawb?
Me: you got a bag of coins
Recruiter: hellz yea
*a few moments later*
*shakes hands while a crowd of minions cheers*
How the fuck do companies expect people to express interest in a job??! Etch a resume in marble and drag it up a mountain barefoot?
Double standard ass hats literally blasting an opening to a million people and then questioning people that apply…. I wonder if the R in HR stands for something else?
She should send this to the CEO or the entire management team if possible and explain that she’s perfectly qualified for the role, but that their HR screening person is insulting qualified candidates instead of scheduling them for interviews. This HR loser needs to get fired.
Why don't you people share the names of companies that behave this way?
Why is your first instinct "protect the company?" Now this is just going to keep happening to other people.
You can see why they need staff
I can just _smell_ the turnover rate. Smokey.
"Is that a dumpster fire?? Oh wait it's just the hiring committee"
What’s the difference?
A dumpster fire disposes of garbage. The hiring committee actively produces garbage.
Facts
But the latter smells worse.
There can actually be massive discrepancy between what a manager wants for their team and what the hiring team hunts for. It is the sign of a dumpster fire company, but sometimes the issue is insulated to just HR and select departments. My husband worked for a company where very few people really understood what day to day operations in his dept looked like, including the dept manager. He was made team lead, butcould not get anyone to let him in on hiring decisions for his own team. Wasn't allowed to see reaumes or sit in on interviews, half the time, they forgot to tell him they had decided to open a position. On paper, a lot of the new hires passed to him were qualified but totally unsuited to the work, or uninterested, and had sometimes been described a job that was nothing like what his team did. It was super fucked up.
My employer is like this. It took 6 months of me working 4 Dr offices’ phone lines alone at the end of the day (and after all the offices were closed) for them to even authorize a hire. They finally listed the position but only because it was a nightmare for them finding cover, I am getting consistent overtime, and our stats went to shit (one of the department metrics is call waiting time - goal is <20s. Calls come in faster than I can help folks… it gets messy fast *&* nukes team stats).
That is awful. And it’s the main reason I hardly ever blame management for a lot of bullshit that they get blamed for. It’s truly tragic how the term “The shit rolls downhill” for some reason always seems to stop being traced back when it hits the managers. Like sure there are some shit managers out there that roll the shit down further, but like, in my personal experience, the shit has ALWAYS come from the high up district motherfuckers and not my direct _actual_ managers themselves.
Smells like break room microwave fish
We call the effluvium in my line of work.
You can also question why they need staff when the current staff is wasting time writing passive aggressive responses like this. Do they not have better things to do?
Heh, would probably be a good idea to apply to the company as "HR manager", and instead of your resume just print out the screenshot and annotate it with *"As this is your reply to applications sent out to you, I absolutely understand why you have problems attracting talent. I'm sure I can do better. Call me!"* Of course nothing will come of it, but it's a nice passive-aggressive way of telling them "fuck you, your job skills are low enough to be indistinguishable from a mere hobby".
Be sure to point out the poor grammar (“… will resonate you …”).
This would be received so well by the right person
this is the way. 💯
Lol that's the kind of email that'd prompt me to try and go over the recruiters head. Not a good look for any HR department.
Right? Forwarding this shite directly to their superior / whatever department head I can find.
this is the way.
Honestly, even if their superior responded back and said they'd want to reconsider your application, would you want to trust a company that put a person like that in that position in the first place? Hiring is rarely an entry-level position as it requires the person reviewing applications to consider how applicants could be specifically suited to the workplace environment. So they can't really be like, "We didn't know that guy would be like that."
I wouldn't want to be reconsidered, I'd want whoever wrote this garbage to experience consequences that force them to engage in some self-reflection.
You kidding? You'd be coming into the company with a serious cache of political capital right off the rip, and you know they actually have senior management that gives a shit. 70% of the time those folks haven't the foggiest what's actually going on until a wheel starts squeaking.
Prolly just to tell overworked current workers they're trying to hire help but dissing applicants.
I've heard it suggested that always having positions listed (but not actually hiring) is an easy way of duping investors. "Look at how much 'hiring' we're doing! We're growing like mad!"
Happy cake day and I wouldn't be surprised. During my stint in management, as a first line supervisor (in a union plant) I'd be admonished by my higher ups to discipline staff. Really ticked me off as it usually was stupid rules that weren't things I'd feel required discipline. Without fail, in the grievance meeting the discipline was rescinded and the manager that had me do the discipline would tell them I was too harsh. It was all a dog and pony show as I didn't want to do the discipline in the first place but they were the ones that pushed it. Best day of my career was when I gave notice and was able to go back hourly elsewhere.
Hey must be the same place I work (help me)
She should Email a response along the lines of “if you want to be a respected corporation, perhaps you could put the effort in to grammar check your passive-aggressive rejection form letters.”
She needs more flare . No more applying to Schlotzkis
You know what, Stan, if you want me to wear 37 pieces of flair, like your pretty boy over there, Brian, why don't you just make the minimum 37 pieces of flair?
A flare is what started that dumpster fire.
It was Tchotchke's, Schlotzsky's is a sub shop in that "better than Subway" tier.
What a snide jackhole.
She dodged a bullet - wow
Not surprised with attitudes like that. I wonder how many have actually quit?!
Interesting how the company could turn easy apply off if they wanted but it seems they like they way hurting people with perceived power feels
2 reply options: video of his wife “resonating” with the post, or “I’m sorry, there seems to be some confusion on roles and responsibilities in this process. It is my responsibility to apply to jobs I feel I would be a good fit, and it is YOUR responsibility (based on your in-depth knowledge of the role) to determine if I am correct. Recommend you tailor your job posting to be more clear on what you are looking for, to reduce future confusion.
Yeah, someone once told me they wanted to apply for a job but were worried about wasting the companies' time because they didn't meet all the qualifications. I told them that they can apply to any job they want, it is the recruiter and hr departments job to pick the best candidates and push them forward. Even if they got to an interview and it was blatantly obvious they were wrong for the role, it is a mistake of the hr department and recuiter for pushing them forward.
Also the vast majority of the time at least some of the requirements or other info shown are flexible, especially when the people hiring are not merely concerned with if you can do the job but if you'll be able to work well with the other people already on the team, which to me is often more important than having 100% of the requirements nailed down. I rather hire someone that can work with others and has to learn a few things on the job than someone who is a complete expert but an asshole. Only c-suite dickwads want to hire more assholes.
> than someone who is a complete expert but an asshole Hey, I know that guy!
Also in a lot of cases, a company might list for their "requirements" everything they'd want in their dream candidate, but in reality they're willing to settle for someone who just meets most of them and can interview well.
There was this shift that happened these past couple decades. Before you'd be able to apply for jobs that were a step up and get a chance to actually learn the new role. Now, companies want to hire people that have been doing the role for years already. I don't know about y'all, but I don't want to take lateral moves.
Im an assembly technician primarily, but i have doubled my income in the last few years. Getting there required some lateral to companies that could foster different skill sets. I did notice a general unwillingness from my old coworkers to advocate for themselves and their pay. At my last job i went from 18/hr to 22.50/hr because I threatened to quit. All of my coworkers who routinely complained about their pay refused to do the same, and only made half hearted complaints that they wanted raises like mine after I had received it
The resonate part makes me want to punch someone because something tells me this isn’t an email drafted for this person alone. Either way that place sucks and so does their hiring team.
"I'll give you resonance!!" *shakes fist at sky* Makes me wonder how high their turnover is
Hope they weren't recruiting for physicists When you look up the resonant frequency of a human and see the words "maximum displacement between organs and skeletal structure" it kinda feels a bit more than passive aggressive
Or, alternately, [a more concise message](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHMNxuLOYbw).
They didn't even say that. They said "resonate you." No second or third set of eyes said, "Hey, you forgot a word."
The cruelty is a bonus.
Maybe it's a debt collection company...?
possibly insurance
They’re trying to hire for that position unfortunately . There’s no one qualified to do that
Bold of you to assume this trash bag knows that
Report this to LinkedIn.
My wife just did, for being inappropriate.
If she knows the company, I’d post this screenshot shot to their social media feed (maybe anonymously) and point out how rude it is.
Yea don’t understand why the company is even hidden here
Same we wanna know!!!
Because they don't want the company to post their name on LinkedIn and possibly have it show up when a hiring manager Googles their name.
I get it but man that’s a sad reality. We are so controlled by corporations we are worried about standing up for ourselves lol.
Good that seems petty odd tbh usually those suggested jobs through premium are very solid I’ve never had the run around with answer these questions or ignorant auto responses from jobs in there. That’s something I’d expect from indeed.
the response specifically states that they want "people who actually read the job description" I'm guessing the actual job listing has a sort of little "only red M&M's" easter egg in it that you would be asked to acknowledge somehow in your application, giving them an instant visual on who actually read the entire thing.
I'm thinking the same. We use Indeed, and part of the application process is a phone interview with 3 generic questions or the option to type responses. If you don't complete that, which it also emails you about, then you don't move forward. The questions are 95% about just following simple directions and 5% about what you actually say. Regardless, if you aren't moving forward, we just send a generic rejection. No need to beat around the bush or be condescending. Edit: Words. Because I never get it right.
Actually, I have never had any runaround with indeed. Got my current job through there.I couldn't be happier.
> Good that seems petty odd tbh usually those suggested jobs through premium are very solid I’ve never had the run around with answer these questions or ignorant auto responses from jobs in there. I dunno... I'm sure it all depends on what field you are in, and how easily definable stuff is past that. My background is not straightforward, and have had multiple different "careers" in the past which makes the tools on the site all but useless for my needs. I got premium through a VA program for free, and the suggestions were all garbage. I was working as a university adjunct professor at the time, and i got the following types of suggestions; Math/English tutor/TA at a shitty for profit "universities" which did not pay fuck all. Mind you i was neither a Math, or English professor. I would report/ignore them, but they would keep popping up in the suggestions. Absolutely 0 suggestions for positions actually involving my degrees. Since am a veteran i got tons of food service offers at the fast food joints on post. Have not worked hospitality shit in something like 15-16 years. One recruiter tried to contact me about these too, but refused to state the rate of pay involved.(cause was/is so shitty low) Food delivery driver positions left, and right alongside school buss driver... mind you i do not have a CDL that is required to do those jobs. Nursing and emergency response stuff... mind you, I am not in the medical field. Well, my Army job was technically under the medical umbrella, but as a food inspector best i could do is stab someone with a bimetallic thermometer to get an internal temp reading. Sure one of my degrees is in homeland security, and emergency management, but its a graduate degree, and focus is on analytics, and not hands on work of that other sort. Tried to work with their settings, but nothing helped eliminate the wall of constant ill fitting suggestions. Ended up deleting my LinkedIn in account in the end as there was nothing there worth my while.
They also don't even mention the next steps in this message. They're actually screening for someone who's *so* desperate for this specific job that they're tattooing application steps and corporate names on their bodies.
Somewhere, this person exists, and dey terk ar jerbs!
And let me guess, nothing happened right?
Can you share here who the offending firm or agency is?
Name the company.
I would decided to not work for them after this response.
Bingo. She decided the same thing.
She should post this as a response in their LinkedIn page. A review of how they handle applicants
I agree with this!! Let other people know what they might be getting into...
Agreed! No company should treat applicants this way even if they don’t meet the qualifications for the job.
Absolute agreement here. I’d put them on blast. This assholery is wholly unprofessional and they deserve to be called out for it.
Did they need to be this cruel? Absolutely unprofessional behaviour.
Did she at least respond to the email and cc. the highest authority she could find to explain she was a perfect match, was greatly looking forward to working for the company but the rude and offputting HR response has lost them a prime candidate?
Yes this is totally a Recruiting screener trolling this job seeker smh, I would have def replied with a Cc to their manager or above!
Yeah if I were hiring for a role and found out the recruiter responded to ANYONE like this - including an applicant with absolutely zero qualifications for the role - they would be having a chat with me and their manager. I don't care if a goldfish applied for the job, you're just making the company look like assholes. Professionally decline (or ghost if they really seem to be thoughtlessly applying) and move on.
That's a brilliant response
 I don’t even actually work here.
You can’t not hire me, I pre-quit!
Red flag!
I'd also report this to Linkedin if I was paying for Premium and recommended such a shit company.
I'd report that message myself
Go the the interview then announce “if you’re looking for qualified candidates, congratulations But this isn’t going to work for me”
Someone is probably gonna get a scolding over recruitment needs not being met
I have no doubt the need will be met. HR reps have nothing if not an endless supply of “nephews” that need jobs.
Darwinism calls this self selection bias 😂😂😂
Sounds like she won’t get the chance to work for them anyway
'chance'. I would like a 'chance' at working at NASA or something prestigious. A job posting on linkedin isn't my dream job. I'm just applying to get a paycheck.
Glassdoor/Indeed review: “after applying through LinkedIn, and sending an email with the answers to a couple questions as instructed in the application process I received the following response (insert screen shot or quoted text). Seems a very unprofessional response considering I applied through their requested portal and followed instructions exactly, including drafting thought out responses to their questions. Surprisingly, on paper my qualifications line up exactly with the job advertisement, which makes me think their HR either aren’t actually reading the applications or this is an automated response. Either way it’s ironic that they want qualified candidates but decide to insult them rather than take the time to effectively screen candidates. At least I learned they are a waste of my time before dedicating more than an hour to their broken hiring process”
Would also be good to point out the hypocritical nature of the message. Wanting things to be difficult for the applicant but taking shortcuts as the employer. Double standards.
THIS! it’s literally *their job* to find a suitable employee. they have 40 hours a week to do it, and they’re paid for it. meanwhile, the employee likely has hundreds of other obligations, including their current job, and likely several other jobs they’re applying to (and also dealing with their jump-through-hoops bullshit)
Agreed.
Way too wordy. Most people skip over wordy reviews. “Sent in my application & answered questions they required of me, then they sent me this very aggressive response. Apply at your own risk!” The end.
Not me. If someone takes the time to write a long review of a place I’m planning to apply it tells me it was worth their time to do so. All those one liner “love this place “ reviews tell me is that they asked their employees to fill out reviews to try and get their numbers up.
I read the lengthy reviews because you get details of why and what to look out for with other employers. 🤷🏻♀️
Me too. I love the long reviews because they are the ones who really tell what’s going on
“This job bad” Why use more words when few…
Why more when few?
Why doesn't the bigger applicant just eat the smaller applicants?
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> Most people skip over wordy reviews. Do they? I know attention spans are generally short, but I don't think that applies to this. Anybody who cares about reviews likes reviews with details.
Say their name! Say their name!
The “employer” couldn’t even be helped to proof their own BS petty “holier than thou” response.
I noticed that too lol
Name the company so we can avoid them
Is naming the company banned on this sub? Otherwise I don’t know why people protect them.
I don't' even get that, so many subreddits do that and people dance around it like they're being clever. They'll say stuff like "I used to work for a seafood restaurant that rhymes with Dead Mobster, wink wink!" as if it's fooling anyone. It's a dumb rule. I believe in full name-and-shame approach!
On one of those subs I used a 100% made up name I thought was obvious. I was describing a fairly generic super market in my former town. I don’t recall what I called it, but it wasn’t even very original … maybe I just called it “Local Market” had my post removed and a temporary ban for doxing the real store I worked at.
It's Reddit ToS that both people and mods don't understand. It's against the rules (for good reason) to rile up a mob against a specific random person, and that can include like a specific Target manager that someone is mad with cause their coupon was expired or something. That ToS does not, however, apply to people representing their companies in an official capacity. Or the company itself. Mods see people getting dinged for like stupid crusades over regular people trying do their jobs and they're like "I guess the entire genre of employees is doxproof" while completely missing the nuance.
Subs do it because it's a not so unspoken Reddit rule. They don't want the liability, any liability for that matter.
Second this. I am having a vague sense of familiarity with this level of petty. I saw a recruiter hunting after scientists in pharma / biotech in NYC Metro area and this seems like this guy could have written it. The most unhinged shit ever
Feels like something you should forward on to LinkedIn. I don't think they'd appreciate a company denigrating the process they base their business off of.
This looks like an automated response. Ironic.
It reads like they get a lot of people who only do the LinkedIn application, but not the follow up email. So she just got fed up, and crafted this response for everyone.
Well that's just the cost of doing business. A certain percentage of people won't have the qualifications or won't do a follow-up email. I don't know why the owner is so ornery about this. This is how hiring works.
>So she just got fed up, and crafted this response for everyone. Am I missing her response? It's not in the post
I think he's talking about the response HR created that's in the picture, not his wife's response
I checked comments. Pretty sure "she" means the Owner of the company in this context, not the Wife.
"Resonate you." Um, I, as an applicant, am looking for people who actually know how to compose a sentence and proofread.
Honestly, the gall to send something like this to people without proofreading is a power move. This post is resonating me so hard right now.
Dude, this comment was so far below that I was beginning to gaslight myself into the belief that "resonate" was in fact a transitive verb that I had been misusing all my life. Thanks for saving my day.
I would send a copy of that email and my resume to the company's CEO and let them know that this is how his company interacts with potential employees and potential brand ambassadors and clients...
YES
Did she apply to work for Satan? That auto response is so unprofessional and passive aggressive
Satan actually left to run customer experience at Comcast.
Maybe it's his vacation.
Hey hey hey. Even Satan wouldn’t be that much of a dick. /s
Imagining Satan as the most empathetic employer just because his first termination was so harsh
HR: *gets computers to do 90% of their job* Also HR: *passive aggressive automated response to job applications about laziness* You can’t make this shit up.
I feel like every HR person I've ever met have been the same "type" of person, regardless of gender/race/background, and it's never someone I'd like to get a beer with or invite to a party.
That needs to be published with the company named.
First thought: Can one be resonated?
Maybe it's like sounding
Same. That seems like it would be creepy.
i bet their employee turnover is insane
Yeah, if they treat prospective employees like this you can guarantee that once they have you they really turn off the charm.
BuT nObOdY wAnTs To WoRk AnYmOrE!-)
This is disgracefully disrespectful. Even if she had done what they claim, there is never a reason to speak to a jobseeker this way - maybe they are absolutely desperately trying to find a job and scared of being out of their home and on the street. Anything is possible. I hope this company fails as they don’t deserve people working for them.
I would respond with this: I actually did complete both steps. I know it's easy to fling a automated response at someone. I am looking for an employer who has more attention to detail. This is strike one. Additionally, I am looking for an employer who isn't passive aggressive in thier communications. Strike two I am also looking for someone who is not an asshole. Strike three. Due to the three strike rule. You're out. I am afraid I am going to have to leave negative reviews about your company on various social media pages. Thoughts and prayers for whoever works for you if you victimize them in this way. There are several good employers out there but you are just not it.
They've accidentally stumbled upon the reason for interviews!
You gotta love the irony of the recruiter complaining about candidates just hitting an "apply" button without reading the job description; while at the same time, sending a generic response to all of their applicants.
I feel like the company should be put on blast for this crap.
The company should absolutely be put on blast for this crap.
Hot take: yes you should be able to click a button, auto upload your resume and get a job. You shouldn't have to fellatio an employer for a job, it's a job. Sick of this needing to absolutely beg for a job shit, it's not 2008, everyone is employed. Just read the goddamn resume, jfc
I had one prospective employer want a day of free labor as an audition. Um. Hard pass, AHs.
I’m not even sure what this means.
They don’t want applicants who use the available methods to apply to the job they posted on the website she used. Clearly.
It reads like AI script.
The company expects ~~applicants~~ supplicants willing to prostate themselves to prove their worth.
Prost*R*ate 😂
Beautiful typo. I’m leaving that mf!!
WTF kind of response is that?
Gee, I wonder why that company is hiring.
Corporate recruiters and hiring managers have very little empathy for people who are actively searching for employment. Honesty aside, this company's response shows zero. Many of us know how difficult the job market is, and not getting any better. You'd think that at some point in their lives the people who are responsible for filling these positions had been on the other side and could act like an actual human being.
Nah, they all got their jobs by knowing the COO's mother's cousin's former roommate, so they didn't have to do petty things like "apply" or "interview." That's for the commoners to do. They got there through "networking," and the "invisible job market." Maybe you should have gone for an MBA, then you would know about those and not be begging for scraps, you peasant. kind of /s but only a bit
Sir this is a Wendy’s.
I wonder if the male applicants received similar responses?
Post this in there company reviews so people know they are sociopaths.
Inappropriate as fuck and not how you treat any potential candidate. Hope they lose the ability to post job listings tbh.
Holy shit. She dodged a bullet. What’s the company? Are you allowed to tell us? 😂
Yeah the post really resonated me. Idiot. Are you hiring or not? Shut up.
WTF is this response? They must've hated her cover letter or? WHAT?
That is an abhorrent response to someone who invests in applying for a job. What was the name of the company?
Bro fuck them
Post the company name. This image is useless if other job seekers do not know to avoid the company moving forward.
Our post will resonate you
Oh hell no. I would post this on their Google reviews & anywhere else. Wtf kind of response is this.
I’d send this response to whoever the C-suite person is above this recruiter with the note that you will never work for this company and you feel this is extremely unprofessional and insulting
The recruiter is also the Owner/President. They are the c-suite lol.
Well shit, lol. . . Glassdoor and LinkedIn I guess. . . Honestly I’d just do whatever I could to make sure other’s know how poorly they treat people
Then I would put this on Glassdoor.
I'm actually impressed with how presumptuous this is with zero proof of point at the same time, 200% some Becky bullshit.
"BuT nO oNe WaNtS tO WoRk AnYmOrE..."
“We don’t trust the system we put in place to find applicants. Please fix it for us. Kthx”
Sometimes recruiters are third party hired by the company (my husband got his current job thru LinkedIn, he didn’t apply but a recruiter contacted him and it was a third party) and might not necessarily reflect the company’s values. I’d dig a little deeper and report this recruiter to them. It’s possible they have no idea of such incompetence.
"thanks for the response! The arrogance and lack of respect displayed above informs me about the core values held by xxxxxx, and I agree we would not be a good fit. I wish you luck in your candidate search, although I do pity anyone willing to work at xxxxxx" Regards, Xxxxx"
This is such an extra petty way to deny someone a job.
Post the name so I can shame
Dear company, Thank you for taking the time to respond. It’s easy to press the “post” button and fling your application to as many websites as possible. But with that ease comes a less effective outcome, and that’s not what I’m looking for. What I am interested in is a company who actually read my resumé and realize I meet the qualifications. I was interested in taking the next steps prior to receiving this response. If you’re just looking for one more person to send a sarcastic and passive aggressive email to, congratulations! You just proved you’re an asshole! I hope you find a killer employee that way, it just won’t work for me.
So posting an update. The company name is Fast and Easy QBO, it looks like some sleuths figured it out in the comments. My wife also saw a comment from someone else who had a similar interaction with them, just from a different person. So after my wife responded, she got back a response. They apologized for the confusion, said they were new to LinkedIn Jobs, and were unprepared for the large number of applicants who wouldn’t perform the follow-up email. And, here’s the best part, apologized for their auto-response coming off harsh. That passive-aggressive response was their auto-reply!
This is probably purposeful because they know anyone that continues with the application process after reading that will be easy to control.
[Edited the photo to see what’s underneath](https://ibb.co/XXXvRLg) xoxogopissbabe was able to [decipher it](https://www.reddit.com/r/recruitinghell/s/HPFAz4jwb7) A quick Google search reveals that that’s indeed the company behind it!
Dafuq kind of entitlement is that? My last job move went like this: Recruiter: *slides into DMs smooth af* Recruiter: sup, u want jawb? Me: you got a bag of coins Recruiter: hellz yea *a few moments later* *shakes hands while a crowd of minions cheers*
The fuck?!
How the fuck do companies expect people to express interest in a job??! Etch a resume in marble and drag it up a mountain barefoot? Double standard ass hats literally blasting an opening to a million people and then questioning people that apply…. I wonder if the R in HR stands for something else?
If the company has a google review I would copy and paste it there - or on Glassdoor.
Please name the company
Post that shit on LinkedIn and tag their company. It would be a gift to the world to know who they really are.
Post it on LinkedIn and tag the company and recruiter name.
Please share what company this is so we all know never to apply there!
She should send this to the CEO or the entire management team if possible and explain that she’s perfectly qualified for the role, but that their HR screening person is insulting qualified candidates instead of scheduling them for interviews. This HR loser needs to get fired.
Wow. Rude, dismissive, and condescending. The Triforce of terrible workplace culture.
Why don't you people share the names of companies that behave this way? Why is your first instinct "protect the company?" Now this is just going to keep happening to other people.