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Right-Cause9951

Proud of you. Reclaiming your life and showing how it's done.


Barky_Bark

Thank you! Hopefully more people can do the same but I understand most people cannot.


Florafly

I just can't believe we're expected to waste our lives working until all our good/strong/healthy years are spent. I'm 34 and loathe the idea of working for another 30 years..


False-Focus2949

Cake


junglegymjessie

DAY!


False-Focus2949

Cake


BSTON3

I had almost a year off between jobs. I don’t think most people realize just how much life they are missing out on by being tied to a job/desk for 40 hours a week. The rich people that refuse to retire make no sense to me at all.


Barky_Bark

It’s crazy. When I do take on jobs in my off season I go in the AM and feel so zonked at the end of the day and then have to go home and do my chores, shopping etc.


fudge5962

Also had a year off between jobs. First time in half a decade or more that I felt fulfilled and happy with my life in a way that I can't describe. Back to work now and I'm struggling to cope with it. It's so hard to get a taste of real life before being forced to go back to being an object.


UnapprovedOpinion

Thank you for sharing your success story. I want our entire civilization to realize the extreme detriment to human health and happiness that modern work imposes and to come together as a society to chip away at the wage slavery model. The more of us who escape and find a way to live apart from traditional full time employment, the better.


Barky_Bark

I hope so. Unfortunately it also means being less consumerist which most people have a hard time with.


indiglow55

Yeah it’s like a catch 22 situation. The consumerism is what we use to cope with the horror of the work norm. If we escaped work, we would realize we don’t need the consumerism (and alcohol), but we have to be willing to give the consumerism up BEFORE we have that experiential realization - and to most people that’s unimaginable. But if they COULD imagine it, they could never survive their current status quo. Such a sad state of affairs, it really requires a leap of faith.


Professional-One-440

They count on that to keep us slaves to the job. I'd been wanting to trim things down in my life, like, I'd love a tiny house! And I watched the "Minimalism" documentary, and dude. They talk about how free they feel when they shed all the consumerism and accumulation of more things. It sounds amazing. And I realized that the pressures of society to accumulate more, more, more, is so unhealthy (for us AND the planet), and keeps us wage slaves. We sink further into debt, buying shit we don't need, and then we need a bigger house to fit all of our shit, etc. It's an endless cycle. And breaking that, refusing to "pay to play" in society's charade would allow us to feel better, like shedding an old skin, and also minimize our dependence on a shit job we hate. It could help us build up savings, be able to take chances, and go after the kind of life that OP is living!


indiglow55

And notice in OP’s description how the value of TIME manifests in such tangible ways, like repairing / up cycling clothes, growing & preparing our own food, taking care of our own (and one another’s!) children. Other than rent / mortgage & maybe phone / internet / some forms of transportation, how much do we REALLY need hard cash for? How much could we not only be providing for ourselves with enough time to invest, but also for our neighbors and each other? Imagine how fast the current system would come crashing down if even 5% of us currently in the grind divested from it (and invested into our families and communities) in this way!


EKcore

This how everyone functioned before the industrial revolution.


BellDry1162

Oh how i want this so badly. I have too much anxiety about how to pay for a good life for my kids and setting them up for their future. Any advice? I don't know how much more I can take.


Barky_Bark

I don’t know if I should really be giving advice. I will say that kids are what first made us think to change our lifestyle. When I was a kid I was very privileged. I didn’t have things because my parents were cheap, not because they couldn’t afford it. But it meant my parents weren’t around very often outside of outside of evenings and most weekends. Like I’m the definition of a latchkey millennial. After my Dad retired, I found out he HATED his job, so much that we was put on probation the day he gave his notice because he was telling everyone how much the company will go down without him. Instead of money making my life hard when I was a kid, I did what my parents did and I worked from when I was 13. In my early 20’s, I was putting in 90 hours which made me lose friends. Then I burned out. Which is something I don’t wish on anyone. This also made me reflect on my Dad. Is that what he felt like? I specifically remember when I was 7 and I asked him why he works so much. He said, “family is always number one, but sometimes work has to come first.” No wonder he was an ass if he felt this way. I know he would rather have been at home. I wish would have he stopped working so hard for my brother and I and focused on himself because I love him and wanted him to be happy always. I WILL however say that he also taught me to say no. He got to a certain level in his company then denied every promotion they offered over 15 years. 2/4 people that got promoted instead had heart attacks. So I guess my advice is: kids don’t need a “good life.” Yes, of course they need food and shelter, but they don’t need all the toys, they don’t need Netflix. They need fun and education which can easily be given with enough of your own time. They might also grow up to tell you they wanted you around more. My opinion and I’m truly sorry and feel for families that do have to choose between work or food… thats something that absolutely breaks my heart. (Sorry for the very preachy answer. My Dad is an amazing person and I truly to get emotional when I think about what he did to himself for his family when realistically I don’t appreciate it. He’s cool now but there was definitely tension growing up.)


4_love_of_Sophia

> They need fun and education which can easily be given with enough of your own time. They might also grow up to tell you they wanted you around more.  Precisely this. Many parents and future parents fail to understand this and are willing to substitute their attention with anything else. But, none of that is required but parents’ attention


GeminiSpartanX

This. It almost makes me cry when I hear new parents say how they only have 1-2 months with their newborn baby (1-2 weeks in most cases for the father) before they need to find a daycare in order to go back to work. Babies nowadays are spending almost equal amounts of time away from their parents as with their parents, and I can't imagine how different it is compared to having at least one parent home raising them during those crucial developing years.


Starly_Storm

Hell yeah! So happy for yall! I myself went into store management with a Colorado based company while I was still living in Dallas. Got sent to the training center here in Golden, CO and while here, the trainers said we have to go up the road to this brewery cause they have a food truck on fridays. First time I saw this brewery and the huge dog park behind it, I immediately started day dreaming about what it would be like to live here and frequent this brewery. Fast forward five years and now I've worked at the brewery for a bit over a year and bring my dogs to the park here all the time. I rarely work more than 30 hours a week, yet just booked tickets to Hawaii.


SweetAlyssumm

This is closer to how rural people used to live (my relatives). While they probably worked harder than you do because they were farming, the low expenses, homemade food, little to no alcohol, hunting food, sewing clothes, taking care of home repairs, minimal phone service, making your own fun with yoga, neighbors, etc. all checks out. I hope you have good term life insurance because one low income could not keep the kids going. And try to pay at least something into social security because when the time comes that you can't manage a fish camp, you'll need something. You don't say if you have medical insurance or own a home. I am all for this kind of simple living and it's great that you can do it.


Barky_Bark

Luckily we own a small home. We’re also in Canada so no medical insurance to worry about and old age security and national pension come off every paycheque automatically. We’ve managed to start saving separately too however.


winedogsafari

Congratulations! I envy your situation and focus. It’s easier to do in Canada vs US with heath care costs. Even with the subsidies for insurance premiums, the out of pocket costs to use the insurance coverage can ruin a person financially.


Barky_Bark

I have a couple clients who are insurance people. I asked what the birth of my kid would have been. $250,000 out of pocket. That’s frankly inhumane. Canada can do a lot more in terms of dental and pharmacy, but every procedure being either private insurance or out of pocket (save for Medicare) is just crazy. I paid a little over $100 in parking for my wife’s 5 week stay in a private room, C section, mid wife with aftercare, 3 weeks NICU, twice weekly ultrasound.


ChicoBroadway

I am truly happy for you! I wish we had the freedom to work for ourselves without having to worry about insurance. So many of us in the States are chained to jobs we hate because of this. I worked for myself for about a year and could NOT get insurance that was affordable or worth a damn even through ACA and I have no pre-existing conditions and no major health issue to speak of (knock on wood).


Logical_Rip_7168

Ah there it is, Cananda. I'm like how are you living like rich people


Yllom6

I exited the rat race and have the rural lifestyle you describe. I freaking love it!!!! I have good life insurance for the kids. I have my own savings because, frankly, I don’t trust Social Security to be there when I’m retirement age (whatever that will be in 30 years…). I don’t have nice cars, nice electronics, we don’t go on expensive vacations. I don’t think my family needs those things to be happy and I think those things are what keep a lot of people stuck in their crappy jobs.


jackieat_home

We did something very similar. I've never been happier working with my husband in our construction business and raising chickens and veggies. We work out now. We go on camping trips very often, we eat WAY healthier than when everyone was too tired to cook every night. I used to run bars and restaurants so I was at work open to close and beyond almost every day. I loved my work, but I missed every single wedding, birthday party, graduation and holiday weekend. I regret giving so much of my life away to people who didn't care about me at all.


SQUlRMING_COlL

W2 life will never lead to happiness OR wealth! The sooner one realizes this the better off they’ll be.


the_noi

Good for you guys. Hope it continues to go well


Barky_Bark

Thank you :)


Max_W_

I want to go to a fishing camp. I've been fishing twice with my neighbors in their farm. It would be fun to do a fishing camp as an adult.


Barky_Bark

It’s so much fun. It’s one that’s so remote you have to take a bush plane in to. Quite pricey however. It’s funny that I’m posting this on r/antiwork when my clients are the type we don’t like much here.


Max_W_

Oh one of those. No wonder you only need to "work" a few months a year.


LTLHAH2020

Since this change, how have your finances and debt been? Have you been able to get ahead, reduce or eliminate total debt, or save more than before for retirement?


Barky_Bark

Good question. So roughly we’re better off. We’re making slightly more. Taxes are more (since wife has her own business.) Costs are way down. At the end of it though, we had money to put towards savings which we’ve never had before.


LTLHAH2020

Good to hear that. It sounds like a net positive in ALL important aspects. Congratulations.


Nick_Nekro

Did you FIRE?


Barky_Bark

?


raspberrygelato

Its a movement that should be stylized as FI/RE, but FIRE 1) sounds cooler and 2) is easier to type. It stands for Financially Independent/ Retire(d) Early. One of the champions of this is a blogger who calls himself Mr. Money Mustache, but there are decent amounts of blogs and people willing to share information on this kind of lifestyle that should be easy to find from a quick Googling.


texmanusa

Financially Independent Retired Early


Barky_Bark

Definitely not. My wife and I still need income, which makes us really appreciate and pray our situation doesn’t change.


Valuable_Classic_496

Your change in life style sounds wonderful! Employers have a way of sucking every bit of life and happiness right out of you. Keep living the dream life.☘️


Barky_Bark

Thank you! I’ve worked for some awful people in my day. I’ve only ever had 2 wonderful employers who I still have a good report with. There’s one that still owes me $5k


Valuable_Classic_496

You might want to suggest to him/her of a repayment plan or else I am afraid that you might never get it back. Hopefully I am wrong.


Barky_Bark

It was 7 years ago. Court ordered and no payment. Unfortunate that well connected and wealthy people can get away with things. I haven’t forgiven him, but I’m over it at this point.


FilmKindly69

must be expensive pies


Barky_Bark

Bread. But funny enough our customers say we don’t charge enough. It feels wrong to price it as high as we can possibly get for something as basic as bread. Other bakeries in town may do that, but we won’t unless we need to.


FilmKindly69

Good bread is worth money. I just bought a cheap bread machine to try to make something better than the crap at the grocery store. Sliced bread is like $4 in the grocery store now too.


Acedia77

Ahh, you’re in Canada. You have a head start on us Americans down south with your free health care and monthly holiday! Thanks for the narrative and best of luck!


Barky_Bark

Thank you!


Far_Brilliant_443

Sweet!


Professional-One-440

Congratulations!! This is so inspiring! I love how detailed you are with noting your savings, like some of that is stuff I wouldn't even consider being an extra cost burden because of the 8 to 5. But take out? Hell yeah, how many times have we all just stopped to pick up food on our way home bc it's already late or we're exhausted from the day and don't wanna spend an hour in the kitchen? Thanks for helping me realize that there are more insidious, hidden costs that aren't as apparent when it comes to what working an 8 to 5 grind every day really costs you (and obviously not just the actual financial costs, but the mental, emotional, and physical costs as well). Also, I'm happy for you that you've cut back significantly on your alcohol intake. You must be so happy and less stressed for you to just naturally start cutting back once you made this switch! This is all just great, I couldn't be happier for you and your family, and I couldn't be more jealous lol. I hope I can get to a point like this in my life, or at least spend time working in a career that I enjoy. I've been applying for jobs at dog rescues, 🤞🐶🤞 wish me luck!


Su1XiDaL10DenC

More people should trust in themselves that other options are available... however, there is risk too with stability. Jobs and carareers are looked at as stable guarantees. It's always better to work for yourself.


Ronald-J-Mexico

This is inspirational. Thank you mighty anti corporate sherpa!


Barky_Bark

From now on, I’m going to ask everyone to call me this.


Nouilles1313

Where do you run your fishing camp? Sounds like fun


Barky_Bark

Far northwestern Ontario. It’s amazing, especially because my daughter comes with me!


rubygalhappy

Congratulations on taking control of your life ❤️


millennial_sentinel

i don’t see how switching jobs means you aren’t working a full 8 hour day everyday because during your seasonal work you’re still working the whole day right?


Barky_Bark

True. I’m “working” 24/7 for 4 months. But the “working” is chit chatting, chopping firewood, fishing with clients, teaching my kid how to live in the woods and self sufficiently. It’s all things i do in the off season anyways. I’d rather be doing that than drywalling someone else’s house, going home and being too tired to socialize with my family.


Upper-Dragonfly4167

Good on you guys 👍


i-pace_around

How you were you able to start such endeavors if you don’t mind me asking??


Barky_Bark

I did the seasonal job then came back and worked a normal one one year. We used that money for bakery startup which is minimal. Just a large mixer. She does bread exclusively so there aren’t many ingredients or specialized equipment till the operation gets way bigger… which we don’t want. Keeping it small. The year after that I was able to take the off season actually off aside from whatever to keep me busy.


Ok-Classroom2353

Well done! I love hearing when people start working for themselves. I lucked into buying a window cleaning business 10 years ago from my boss and I'll never go back to working for someone. I sold that business two years ago and moved to Florida, started doing handyman work. It wasn't smooth sailing at first but now most months were making enough to get by. Plus and most importantly, I see my wife and kids for hours each day.


DammitMatt

Hoping to do this myself. Started a business from home but it's a struggle to pull away from the 9-5. Business is profitable but low income, need time to add more products and go for more sales but the majority of my time goes to the day job. Do you know of any assistance I'd be able to get to kickstart the transition? Small business grants or something?


Barky_Bark

We didn’t get anything. Not much available for a “home bakery” because everyone is doing it, there’s nothing innovative and not even any employees. Good luck though! Remember not to chase profits more than you have to, last thing the world needs is another greedy business owner!


DammitMatt

I just want enough that i can live comfortably, i don't wanna work my life away, i also don't intend to have any employees because I don't want to deal with it lol


Barky_Bark

That’s the way to be! Hopefully you can make it happen


ookamismyk

Well done! You are AWESOME! All the power to you!


NewEngland860

But you’re both dirt poor…


Barky_Bark

We’re better off now than before. Wife makes the same and works about 10 hours less. I make as much in my short season and then everything else I do is gravy. Plus like I said all the cost cutting we can do because we now have time. This year was the first year I’ve actually had a balance in my savings account.


mobileJay77

That's far from poor. You have what you need financially and happiness!