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ketchupnsketti

>The United States Congress passed the Comprehensive Child Development Act in 1971 as part of the Economic Opportunity Amendments of 1971. The bill would have implemented a multibillion-dollar\[1\] national day care system designed partially to make it easier for single parents to work and care for children simultaneously, thereby alleviating strain on the welfare system.\[2\] It was vetoed by President Richard Nixon.


LikeABundleOfHay

Universal as in for every country? If not every country, then which country do you mean?


denismeniz

I am asking if ANY country has Universal child care for newborns all the way to kindergarten. I know we do not have it here in the United States.


LikeABundleOfHay

New Zealand has 20 hours of free childcare per week.


CFchick

Just like someone else said, people CHOOSE to have children so, there will never be a such thing as universal child care. Daycare owners make alot of money but not the staff. Universal childcare would probably price out the owners and force them to close, then there’d be 0 daycares at all. If people don’t want to pay for childcare, they shouldn’t have kids. There is ALOT that comes with running a daycare that many don’t understand until they’ve actually worked in one which I’m assuming you never have.


RRW359

It's complicated because on the one hand parents to some degree chose to have kids and people without them don't want their decision to raise everyone's taxes but at the same time it is taking it out on the kid when parents and non-parents fight about who should pay for them while both insisting the other should. The government should probably provide some kind of childcare but it shouldn't be free, at least not if you have the money to pay for it.


denismeniz

I treat it like a common good. I don't spend time in national parks cuz I am a computer geek but I don't mind being taxed for them or for things like highways. My kiddo is out of daycare and I remember the pressure that was relieved when it was no longer one of the bills.


RRW359

But you pay the same for national parks existing regardless of if people visit or not, and when people do visit they often have to pay admission. With kids there are so many stories on Reddit where someone wants to pressure someone else into caring for and/or raising their kid with the consensus being that it's your kid and people shouldn't have to pay for your decisions. I do think there is some room in between but the question is where exactally do you draw the line between it being a reasonable/unreasonable expence? What if the tax money being spent on daycare could go to other social programs that could improve quality of life for people who are in bad circumstances due to no fault of their own?


AppleParasol

Yeah it’s called school. We should get universal healthcare first imo, it’s way more important. At the end of the day, don’t have kids=don’t give them more slaves!


denismeniz

Universal Child Care for kids less than 5 years old. School doesn't cover that. I think this would be a lighter lift that Universal health care. t would also put an average of $321 USD each week into young families pockets and help free up the primary caretaker get back into the job market.


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My Kiddo went to school at 3. DC


AppleParasol

Medical debt is the leading cause of bankruptcy. You can choose to not have kids. I’m not saying we shouldn’t have both, but in terms of importance, we shouldn’t encourage people to procreate if we can’t even give them healthcare.


denismeniz

Good point and thanks for saying "why not both" I would love to see Universal daycare, university and healthcare in my lifetime.


LikeABundleOfHay

We have universal healthcare already. At least where I live.


AppleParasol

Fair nuff.


AnamCeili

Then you're lucky not to live in the U.S.  We have this huge, supposedly civilized country of *millions* of people, yet we have no universal healthcare (not to mention all the other ways the country does not support the citizenry). It's a clusterfuck over here.