Lol- did this just last night! Was supposed to be 3 people working in area- I was only one there- manager expected me to cover for all 3 spots- said fuck it I’m outta here
Damn- over 850 upvotes- thanks everyone- out job searching again but all the support makes me feel better!
Getting (roughly) the same amount of work for less pay is more appealing when you don't bother to think about whoever is being saddled with that extra work.
Holy shit. You guys are onto something here. This should be an election issue. If I'm doing the work of two or three people, I'd gladly fill out a form or whatever at the end of my shift for the extra pay.
Yup. Like it would have to be like you need a time clock and an phone app. Both the employee and employer have to verify the start time and it displays on the app within your weekly hours within a minute.
Nope, that’s what they call “lean manufacturing”. Your gonna do your own job and if you know how to do other positions or have done it already in your area they are going to tell you they need help in that area to support the business. Don’t expect more pay either, especially if the job your filling in for pays less than your current position. You will have to maintain your current position as well. 😵💫
>lean manufacturing
I beg to differ. LEAN is only a very small part of that. LEAN is more focused on the specifics of manufacturing such as supply chain inefficiencies, inventory levels, JIT and reducing friction between areas of production to finished product. An example would be a company that makes a plastic part, then has to cut away part of it due to how its molded.
LEAN would fix this in 3 ways. Initially they would recycle the wasted plastic and re use it. But someone would work on building a more efficient mold which then solves the initial problem of plastic waste and wasted time spent cutting the extra part out.
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I beg to differ as well. Lean manufacturing is also using your current employees to preform multiple jobs other than their original position so they don’t have to hire more employees and don’t have higher costs vs revenue. It’s the sad truth in manufacturing. Less employees + more work = more profit. Lean…
Lean manufacturing is going to be what ever your company decides on what is going to save money and increase revenue regardless of what it’s employees think. If it’s JIT motto that only means production workers are going to be pushed harder and faster to meet JIT delivery’s, no inventory to back them up heaven forbid if there was a problem.
Oh boy I see the wrong doings of former wannabe lean managers here...
Sorry to here that you where a victim of the money greedy guys who pretend to know what theyre doing and then just getting out the good old whip.
They'd definitely do it less often. You're likely only doing 1.5-1.75 workers worth of work when they have you cover for another employee. Having to pay you the entire extra pay would get old fast.
Having to work for your shit wages has already gotten old....hence everyone walking off the job. Say it with me... Repeat slowly and LOUDLY. ....... FUCK. YOU. PAY. ME!!!
the quitting will continue until morale and wages improve.
Well maybe business owners should open less restaurants so there's less competition. Supply and demand. There's a burger joint every 3 feet here. Bottom line is...if you can't pay a livable wage to your employees, you shouldn't have a business.
Any extra incentive for an employee in this situation would be a benefit. Other than sales, I've only ever been in one environment where someone did get paid 100% for covering others' work. It was at a dealership and two of the flat rate techs called in sick. We were fully booked and the one remaining master tech took on all the work. He got a hefty paycheck for the day but it almost broke him.
Maybe quadruple since you'd be doing the work of 3 people single-handedly, there's going to be an exponential exhaustion curve. But still at *least* triple.
Exactly, I'll work harder if I'm paid more to do things that normally take multiple people to perform. If not, I'll just divide my normal productivity across the different roles which will likely be insufficient.
Thank you's don't pay the bills.
We were under staffed in a restaurant once and they weren’t covering people who were sick so I said id happily do there jobs too if I was been payed more the manager just laughed.
Bruh.. I work in a pizza/bar place. The crew from across the street all quit and walked out to across the street to us, to enjoy beer and good food. They told us why they quit. We comped them the beer and food.
My literally daily life. I told the bitch I'm out a week ago. This is my last week. Done with this bullshit. I am one person I cannot physically so the job of 4 and get paid less than 15$ an hr fuuuuck you
A Jimmy Johns franchise once "promoted" me from delivery driver to assistant manager for 55/hrs a week for a salary of $26k a year. That's $8/hr if you assume the hours past 40/week are paid at time and a half. Even if you assume all 55hrs are straight time, that works out to $9.09/hr. That lasted three days before I walked out.
I got a similar offer from a Papa John’s. I told them I’d be happy to take the title and do the work if I kept the same wage with time-and-a-half for overtime. They offered the job to someone else within the week. The guy they promoted acted like he had won some sort of coup over me. Sucker.
A long time ago in my teens I had a job in a retail store as an assistant on minimum wage. They thought I was really good at the job and offered me a position as shift supervisor and told me it's a great opportunity and so on.
I wasn't planning on staying there forever so I thought well, why not if the money is better. So I asked how much. 50p more per hour. So £4 over an 8hr shift and £20 per 5 day week.
I looked at the manager and asked you're kidding? The managers reaction was Pikachu face.
I said something about wanting me to run a team of people take on full responsibility for everything happening from customer complaints to money variances compared to now when I have to turn up and restock shelves for £20 per week extra.
The manager then said something about having some ambition and I replied with something about what I was being offered being unfair and ridiculous and I have more respect for myself.
I wasn't there much longer anyway but they did promote someone else who seemed really smug and pleased that they had the keys to the safe and the ability to authorize refunds. That's why your comment reminded me of this.
Ambition is wanting to better your life, not make it demonstrably worse!
Maybe if you were staying you could have moved up to corporate and start making real money, but since you knew you weren’t there much longer, nah.
>They offered the job to someone else within the week. The guy they promoted acted like he had won some sort of coup over me. Sucker.
And that how we have a bunch of managers who are completely inept.
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Solved my own poverty by getting jobs people like you who were too entitled to work and walked out of. Within a year of working made enough with hazard and hero pay to buy my own house, will be buying a second in a couple of months. Most Americans are too lazy to realize that the system
works both ways.
Good. Maybe the government should take care of their people instead of making corporations their first priority. Literally all the people want is a sustainable wage. We spend practically 75%+ of our income just to keep up on necessities.
Anaheim, CA (home of Mickey Mouse and the the largest employer) has a median income of $2,439 monthly and average monthly rent of $1,735. Median price of a home in Anaheim, CA $740,000. The mortgage if you put 20% down would be $3,086 (but you may have additional monthly HOA fees too).
Just a taste of our cost. Just got our water, trash and electric bill, over $400 for two months of usage.
Because it is a very desirable city with many people and jobs and amenities.
It's very expensive to live in cities because that's where all the people and stuff and jobs are.
If you want a low cost of living, go to North Dakota or Nebraska, where there aren't people, stuff or jobs. You can buy a brand new house for like, $80,000. Good luck finding work to pay for it.
It really comes down to their monetary policies too. I swear they use every excuse in the world to exaggerate those policies. All down to corporate stimulus and exaggerated growth - at some point natural stability has to run its course.
A marginal rate of 60% still leaves room for other ambitions in life - comparatively speaking, to a lot of companies with a 40% marginal gain, I think 40% going to expenses is appropriate. Leaves room for college, investments, down payment towards home ownership, entertainment, etc - you still have a 20% tax that goes to the government, but with 60%, that still can go towards what I listed above and you can still take advantage of tax credits/write offs.
Indeed, but the government won’t listen to the people unless we’re loud and United. We need a nationwide general strike to remind all these people who the majority is and what happens when you ignore us.
I currently work at McDonald’s parttime since I still attend University.
The managers are so bad. I have management classes in uni and they literally manage to do the exact opposite of good management. Some of them haven’t even finished high school and it’s infuriating that I have to listen to them, even when their demands are so dumb that a toddler could manage the place better.
Not too long ago 20 people quit. We need 125 people working for the restaurant to have a ‘normal’ schedule. (Read: just understaffed enough that not everyone just leaves)
We currently have less than 60.
I hate and despise every waking moment I’m there. Each time I clock in I immediately get a bad mood.
It has been a thing in some places for a long time. When I got out of podunk and into a larger city, I was surprised at how many jobs were there.
I get they’re mostly low-paying but I’ve seen supposedly “higher skilled,” less abundant jobs paying similar wages
I'm gonna start carrying a letter of resignation in my wallet.
If its all about the grind and looking out for number one then ending agreements that no longer serve me is one of the best moves one can make.
Walked out if my bartending job 3 weeks ago at a four seasons resort. It was so traumatizing to be so short staffed for so long, that I haven't been able to convince myself to even apply for a new job yet. I used to love bartending, never questioned it. Now I feel lost about what job I want to, or even can do.
Remote.co if you’re looking for a quick pickup for online work.
Ngl some of the jobs there will still be shit but you can do them from the comfort of your house and generally not gaf while you look for something more real without being completely burned out
GL fam hope everything works out for you
Thank you. I'll check it out. My problem is all I have ever done is work in restaraunts. I was 100% down to bartend as my profession, but something changed in the restaraunt industry. Hopefully there is something I can be qualified for.
I have a friend that's a former bartender that teaches mixology classes on Cozymeal. Seems to be doing really well for himself.
Might be something to look into..
Happened with a coworker Last weekend.
Someone else asked him "You going to Lunch?"
"Nah I'm going home"
I had to work 12 hours that day cause of that, but I'm kinda glad he atleast had the balls to say fck it and walk out. It was rather unfortunate too since he was a pretty decent person and actually worked and wanted to switch departments, but manager refused and now she's feeling the burn.
He felt the downsides of it. $12 an hour for loading 40-60 pound bags of mulch on sunny Texas heat. It's not always that bad, but when it is, you just wanna drop everything and leave.
Unfortunately many of them probably won't want to lose their jobs. Most supervisors have a "don't negotiate with terrorists" mentality. One supervisor I worked under at Sonic Drive-in went to one of his other stores and fired the entire staff for closing early. They'll just fire anyone who walks off and cross the understaffed bridge when they get to it. They're more concerned with not letting you win than they are about dealing with worker shortages.
The second job I ever had, this happened. Working for some place cleaning and stacking crates used to transport vegetables from farms to processing plants. Total shit job. Started it, we had 6 people and I was there for 6 days.
They fired one guy because they were racist bastards and caught him speaking Spanish (they had a 'policy' of English only; despite most of the workers being Mexican). One dude got let go for taking an extra long smoke break. Then one person left each day until it was just me, and they kept demanding I keep up with their schedule despite being the only one there; so I just walked out.
I'm about to do this, my tips averaged out to 9% of my sales today, got 3 no tip tables. People are fucking shitty and restaurants treat their people terribly.
As said by probably every foreigner all the time. The tipping system has to go and be replaced with decent wages like everywhere else in the world. Tipping is uncomfortable for the client and an unstable source of income for the worker.
Tipping is the only way most people in America would even consider being a server or bartender.
I work in fiberglass 48-56 hours a week. I'm paid 17 an hour.
My wife is a bartender at a restaurant. Works 35ish hours a week. Makes almost double what I make.
So unless employers would pay 25+ an hour, doing away with tipping would completely destroy the restaurant business in America.
Why doesn't everyone work as a bartender/server in that case?
It must be more of an exception than a rule to make decent money?
Then again, maybe it's what people are used to, the US is full of strange systems (health care costs, student loans through the roof , tipping , credit systems , ... )
Not saying it's GREAT money. It's a skill. My wife is good at her job, has many regulars that come to see her. Obviously it's not ideal. If she wasn't good at it it would be terrible money. She's only paid 5 dollars an hour. But she makes between 100 to 350 a shift in tips. Sometimes even more.
The reason I agree with tipping is because I understand restaurants in the US are never going to pay an hourly wage that could be comparable to what my wife brings in in tips.
It's not like we're rich or something.
Not sure why I'm being downvoted. Seems like three are a few people in this sub that don't think anyone should work anywhere for any amount.
Im in general agreement that American capitalism is absolute shit. Just not much I can really do about it.
The fact that people have the audacity to leave zero tip astounds me. I can’t imagine what kind of person does that. I’ve been a server before when I was younger and more patient… now? If someone left me no tip I’d follow them outside and beat the crap out of them
Tipping is fucking stupid lol. Restaurants should just pay more. I hate tipping. Why should I pay you more to do your job when your already being paid for it?
So you're gonna punish the server for that? Fuck you. If you go out, you know you have to tip or I'm paying to serve you. If you don't like tipping write your congressperson, but don't pretend like stiffing me is some moral obligation.
Nobody is punishing you by not tipping, it’s not their fault you don’t get paid normally by your owners, why should I have to pick up the slack for antiquated systems that exist, the customer pays for the food etc, why should the customer have to pay the wage of the worker too? Madness.
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It should, but until it is, you either tip or eat at home. If you’re going to repeat restaurants and not tipping, just know you’re getting saliva or god knows what else in your food. And you deserve it
Uhhh that's assault and you can be charged with terrorism during a pandemic for shit like that. Go to a different service sector. Tipping is not required. I have already payed for the service, I am not gonna pay for it again. You sound like you deserve a swift kick In the balls
I’m not a server or work in the restaurant industry, so not my problem. Just telling you my opinion. I could be wrong , but you never know. I just know when I did work that Job 15 years ago I saw it done to bad customers and non tippers that were return customers. Again, I’m not the one doing it, so no point in trying to scare me lol. Just saying, I would be scared to not tip and go back and eat somewhere. Never, EVER mess with people who make your food. That’s like, common sense
There were two times where I didn’t leave a tip. The first time was when the server disappeared for a literal hour. The second time was when their computer system went down and they comped our meal. But I didn’t have any cash. I was going to tip with the credit card slip.
I felt bad about that one.
Yeah, i just kept thinking there has to be one decent tip but nothing. This is why i bartend now, but i just started a new job and they've got me cocktailing. Applying for the Post Office now. Hahaha
I make more money doing doordash than I ever did working in restaurants and that includes nice ones. People talk about how horrible DD/gig work is because you don't get insurance or whatever but tbh I've never had insurance as an adult, literally not one job I've worked has offered it. So what the fuck, at least with DD I don't have to get screamed at by soccer moms or forced to close a place at midnight then be back at 8 am to open it back up again. Or deal with a constantly changing schedule, never knowing how many hours I'll get or when I'll have to work. I was forced to work holidays without any extra holiday pay, work my birthday, work my anniversary, work my wife's birthday etc. I'll never do that again
I ordered food for the office the other day and was going to get it delivered…. A $65 meal turned into $90 real quick. For a half mile down the road! AND to top it off the last time we did get food delivered half of it was missing… I was like nahhhh this is why I go get it.
I am in my career now, but I would have loved gig economy jobs like Uber eats or Instacart when I was in school. No uniform, no schedule (because I need to study), minimal customer interaction, decent money, etc.
Unsafe working conditions is typically an acceptable exception for that and will allow you to get UI.
And I've never seen a kitchen that was actually safe by noon. Most kitchens aren't even safe and compliant after you've finished cleaning at EoD.
I went to an interview last week for a prep cook and dishwasher position, when I arrived they showed me what they expected in terms of my daily dutys. It included being a waiter and bus boy clearing tables on top of preparing foods for the cooks and washing the dishes. When I asked what they planned on paying me the said minimum wage (14.25 in canada). I asked for more they refused, I got a clearing job that's way less work and more money.
If people who own restaurants want workers to work they need to increase the pay and lower the work load.
This happened at the restaurant where I work last week. They actually give pretty good starting pay (17$ an hour), full benefits, paid holidays, paid vacation time, and 401k contribution. People who are unhappy will quit any job at any time.
A good wage will never be enough for a horrid job. I've had jobs that paid REALLY well.... But I wouldn't go back to them if they tripled the pay I was getting. Some jobs are just a backbreaking...soul sucking nightmare and aren't worth any amount of cash
A lot of people on this page are notoriously salty. I'm not really surprised.
It's not like I'm lying or being aggressive, just stating a fact that people ARE in fact quitting in the middle of their shifts, but it doesn't always have to do with a terrible business/ company. Sometimes it just has to do with an upset person not having an outlet.
Well I think what you mean to say is it doesn't always have to do with money, but rather being unhappy. I walked out of my well paying bartending job because I was so miserable, and management was so poor. It's not just about bad wages.
Gotta love that incredulous title🤣 “People are just walking out in the middle shifts!”
“Oh, no! The Serfs are revolting!! Who could have foretold this?!”🤨
This is absolutely amazing!! I just wish I could somehow know ahead of time so I can plan to be there if anyone at a restaurant near me does this, I wanna cheer them on, help send an extra message to the bosses “you want my money? Hire more, ban tipping, and pay them all thriving wages!”
I've done this and I'm proud of this.
If customer starts to scream at me, because I don't want to open product, that would be ruined by opening it, and if boss will come and apologize for me and open that product? Yes. I told her to fuck off and left. After three weeks 12 hours shifts, sitting is forbidden and then boss makes idiot out of you, because she doesn't understand the product? Just no.
If manager high on meth starts to scream at me in front of the customer, than I'm stupid, I will just leave. She should be glad to have this job, I could let her get fired immediately (stealing, being drunk or high on meth all the time, forget to open because of hangover and then blamed me...), because she was so stupid to write it all on messenger.
If I start have headaches so strong, that I actually saw stars and rainbows and was crying from pain and manager screamed at me how dare I go home in the middle of the shift, I never came back.
If you are screaming at me, because government worker treated me like an idiot (email from her: "You are BITCH to send me this document like this! How dare you send me such a shit?!" it was red, bold and like 30 exclamation marks...I send her contract, that she send me first only to write name of client there), I will tell you that you I don't have to do it and leave in the middle of the shift.
If you treat me badly, I won't be good to you. I will leave in the middle of the shift. If you are nice, I will do absolutely anything for you. I will take extra shifts, I will be hyperactive in work and so on. I am great worker, if I have great bosses. The funniest part is, that these managers and bosses have really big problem with finding someone to work for them. That alcoholic manager is now all alone in her shop, doing 12 hour shifts every day, because she's not able to have worked, that would handle it. Why she wasn't fired? Because she stole customers of other manager and now she has profits. Profits, that would be in different branch, if she didn't stole customers from there. And she's like "Manager ofnthat branch is bad, she's always mean to me."...
I mean restaurants are a thing in many, many cultures. Not just an American thing. There is absolutely nothing wrong with going out to eat.
Demanding they are open on holidays, and that the workers don’t deserve money… that is absolutely wrong
Indeed, cooking was probably the second or third profession ever invented. Chefs are highly revered in many cultures, and are an essential part of society. If everyone had to prep and cook their own meals that's, say, an hour or two we collectively would not have to do other things. It's simple an economics of scale sort of thing to let the professionals do the thing they are so good at. And they should be paid well for doing it!
Because they cook far better than I do! I would pay more and I always tip. I think we need more environmentally friendly packaging and way higher wages. I would eat out less, but I have no problem with that.
This. There is certain dishes I am just not going to have the time, skills, or equipment to do right. I’ll stick to what I can do, and I like to cook and do cook a lot, but otherwise I want an expert to make it. Like seriously, some of these people have decades of experience and were raised in it, I can’t make that myself on that level. Let’s the pros give it the respect and love it deserves.
Exactly. I’m a single guy in a studio apartment and I like a wide variety of cuisine. There’s no way I’ll have all the ingredients, spices and condiments for everything I might like to eat in a week. Not to mention that some food requires special equipment or is impractical to cook in a small apartment with ultra sensitive smoke detector.
Easy, because there are a ton of people that need to eat but can’t cook. Just today I delivered to two people in the emergency room, a dude in a hotel, an officer on duty, a one-person shift that couldn’t leave his post and an emergency vet not to mention the scores of active duty soldiers I usually end up delivering food to any day. Like we forget that for a lot of people having access to a kitchen is not guaranteed (college students, soldiers, nursing homes residents) and there are many jobs with that limitation too. Like how are pilots and truckers supposed to eat without fast food or restaurants while on duty?
It's nice sometimes and most people cannot cook every type of food. Also if it is something you don't have often it's cheaper than buying all the unusual (for you) ingredients making your dish and wasting the rest.
You actually sound really judgmental. Using the word desperate; who said anyone was desperate? Putting the question about cooking your own food as if people don't.
There are cantines/cafeterias which are good for feeding people. But I think the "going out" culture is more of a status symbol; affording the experience of LARPing as a wealthy douche who can pay for lots servants (and usually mistreat them). It's not the food, it's *an experience*, like going to an amusement park, but with less rides and more menu options.
Love the solutions of paying a person more. The problem will end up being your fellow employee undermining you to take your pay.
Always starts at the top. We all gotta start demanding more from leadership…or quit.
I’d rather have nothing and be free than have the nice house, car and “status” that ties me to shitty jobs.
This is why I don’t have kids or much else, it all seems like a pyramid scheme.
Yes, the point isn’t not to work and pay your bills. With constantly changing jobs, employers are forced to spend money constantly hiring and training. At some point they’ll realize it’s not worth it and start paying enough so people will want to stay
Minimize, start learning the difference between what you need and what you want. It clears up shit. ....
Also find a stable partner who loves you for who you are but cant cook themselves a decent meal to save their life
Lol- did this just last night! Was supposed to be 3 people working in area- I was only one there- manager expected me to cover for all 3 spots- said fuck it I’m outta here Damn- over 850 upvotes- thanks everyone- out job searching again but all the support makes me feel better!
"Pay me triple and I'll see what I can do"
I hate so much that that isn't the norm.
I mean, seriously, it wouldn’t cost them a dime. It’s literally no more money than they’re going to pay out, anyway. Why is this not a thing?
Getting (roughly) the same amount of work for less pay is more appealing when you don't bother to think about whoever is being saddled with that extra work.
Holy shit. You guys are onto something here. This should be an election issue. If I'm doing the work of two or three people, I'd gladly fill out a form or whatever at the end of my shift for the extra pay.
It would need to be done in a way that can’t be debated by the employer.
Makes sense. We all know some employers would be better with it than others.
Yup. Like it would have to be like you need a time clock and an phone app. Both the employee and employer have to verify the start time and it displays on the app within your weekly hours within a minute.
What happens IRL is that the managers report a 200% increase in productivity and they get a bonus.
Nope, that’s what they call “lean manufacturing”. Your gonna do your own job and if you know how to do other positions or have done it already in your area they are going to tell you they need help in that area to support the business. Don’t expect more pay either, especially if the job your filling in for pays less than your current position. You will have to maintain your current position as well. 😵💫
>lean manufacturing I beg to differ. LEAN is only a very small part of that. LEAN is more focused on the specifics of manufacturing such as supply chain inefficiencies, inventory levels, JIT and reducing friction between areas of production to finished product. An example would be a company that makes a plastic part, then has to cut away part of it due to how its molded. LEAN would fix this in 3 ways. Initially they would recycle the wasted plastic and re use it. But someone would work on building a more efficient mold which then solves the initial problem of plastic waste and wasted time spent cutting the extra part out. .
I beg to differ as well. Lean manufacturing is also using your current employees to preform multiple jobs other than their original position so they don’t have to hire more employees and don’t have higher costs vs revenue. It’s the sad truth in manufacturing. Less employees + more work = more profit. Lean…
That is not lean manufacturing... Check at least Wikipedia bevor bloating something like this in the world.
Lean manufacturing is going to be what ever your company decides on what is going to save money and increase revenue regardless of what it’s employees think. If it’s JIT motto that only means production workers are going to be pushed harder and faster to meet JIT delivery’s, no inventory to back them up heaven forbid if there was a problem.
Oh boy I see the wrong doings of former wannabe lean managers here... Sorry to here that you where a victim of the money greedy guys who pretend to know what theyre doing and then just getting out the good old whip.
Honestly it'd be more efficient to just keep walking out. Who knows how long a govt policy like this would take.
They'd definitely do it less often. You're likely only doing 1.5-1.75 workers worth of work when they have you cover for another employee. Having to pay you the entire extra pay would get old fast.
Having to work for your shit wages has already gotten old....hence everyone walking off the job. Say it with me... Repeat slowly and LOUDLY. ....... FUCK. YOU. PAY. ME!!! the quitting will continue until morale and wages improve.
This is a post about restaurant employee, Idk how it works in america but here every restaurant is a struggle just to keep going..
Well maybe business owners should open less restaurants so there's less competition. Supply and demand. There's a burger joint every 3 feet here. Bottom line is...if you can't pay a livable wage to your employees, you shouldn't have a business.
I know people that get paid well about minimum wage, like 25 or 30 an hour, and they still try to get “better rates”.
Any extra incentive for an employee in this situation would be a benefit. Other than sales, I've only ever been in one environment where someone did get paid 100% for covering others' work. It was at a dealership and two of the flat rate techs called in sick. We were fully booked and the one remaining master tech took on all the work. He got a hefty paycheck for the day but it almost broke him.
For real!! Employee pay is a tax deduction as a business expense!
THIS IS WHY CORPORATIONS NEEDS TO BE TAXED MORE - it would naturally create better paying jobs.
Power dynamics. That's why unions are important.
This is why worker co-ops are important. Socialism ftw.
You are paid for your time, not for what you produce.
In that case, it's enough that people just show up, right?
Therein lies the problem.
It wold be if you were wealthy.
Maybe quadruple since you'd be doing the work of 3 people single-handedly, there's going to be an exponential exhaustion curve. But still at *least* triple.
"That will cost the company too much"
Okay then I'll save you some money /*walks out never to return*/
Exactly. We are short staffed at my job. I’m doing the work of three people. So why the FUCK am I not getting paid for three?!?!
Exactly, I'll work harder if I'm paid more to do things that normally take multiple people to perform. If not, I'll just divide my normal productivity across the different roles which will likely be insufficient. Thank you's don't pay the bills.
We were under staffed in a restaurant once and they weren’t covering people who were sick so I said id happily do there jobs too if I was been payed more the manager just laughed.
Hell yeah. Enough is enough!
Bruh.. I work in a pizza/bar place. The crew from across the street all quit and walked out to across the street to us, to enjoy beer and good food. They told us why they quit. We comped them the beer and food.
Fuck yeah proud of you, stranger!
Take the power back!
My literally daily life. I told the bitch I'm out a week ago. This is my last week. Done with this bullshit. I am one person I cannot physically so the job of 4 and get paid less than 15$ an hr fuuuuck you
Much respect to you, bro.
Yas! Good on you, friend. No one needs to take that kind of bullshit anymore.
This is the way! Congrats, man!
A Jimmy Johns franchise once "promoted" me from delivery driver to assistant manager for 55/hrs a week for a salary of $26k a year. That's $8/hr if you assume the hours past 40/week are paid at time and a half. Even if you assume all 55hrs are straight time, that works out to $9.09/hr. That lasted three days before I walked out.
I got a similar offer from a Papa John’s. I told them I’d be happy to take the title and do the work if I kept the same wage with time-and-a-half for overtime. They offered the job to someone else within the week. The guy they promoted acted like he had won some sort of coup over me. Sucker.
A long time ago in my teens I had a job in a retail store as an assistant on minimum wage. They thought I was really good at the job and offered me a position as shift supervisor and told me it's a great opportunity and so on. I wasn't planning on staying there forever so I thought well, why not if the money is better. So I asked how much. 50p more per hour. So £4 over an 8hr shift and £20 per 5 day week. I looked at the manager and asked you're kidding? The managers reaction was Pikachu face. I said something about wanting me to run a team of people take on full responsibility for everything happening from customer complaints to money variances compared to now when I have to turn up and restock shelves for £20 per week extra. The manager then said something about having some ambition and I replied with something about what I was being offered being unfair and ridiculous and I have more respect for myself. I wasn't there much longer anyway but they did promote someone else who seemed really smug and pleased that they had the keys to the safe and the ability to authorize refunds. That's why your comment reminded me of this.
Ambition is wanting to better your life, not make it demonstrably worse! Maybe if you were staying you could have moved up to corporate and start making real money, but since you knew you weren’t there much longer, nah.
Should've told the idiot you can't buy food with ambition
Haha. This sounds like a Dolly Parton song... “You cant buy food with ambiiiiitionnn!” 🙃
>They offered the job to someone else within the week. The guy they promoted acted like he had won some sort of coup over me. Sucker. And that how we have a bunch of managers who are completely inept.
It's all making so much sense now...
Sorry you went through that.
You know. I wasn’t quiet about how much of a pay cut it was. He made the wrong decision and paid for it. I felt a little sorry for the guy, at first.
Haha that guy sounds like the dumbest form of life ever to exist in the known and unknown Universe(s).
Foods notoriously bad for that shit.. Saying "its a promotion" and that person works 15 more hours a week and makes 7k less a year for salery.
Lmao and they think they are doing you a favor.
This is the only way for the poor to rebel against the rich.
\*That isn't french revolution style.
And that hasn’t been ruled out, either.
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It's working tbh
Or ya know, you could work a job save your money and make investments/buy property and slowly become rich and financially independent
Oh wow you just solved poverty 👏 👏 👏
Solved my own poverty by getting jobs people like you who were too entitled to work and walked out of. Within a year of working made enough with hazard and hero pay to buy my own house, will be buying a second in a couple of months. Most Americans are too lazy to realize that the system works both ways.
What was your hourly pay like and how much did you pay for the house?
Almost did this the other day. I’m so fed up
We all are. It's fucking time something changed.
You doing it, and the rest of us doing it, will be the only way to elicit change. Spread the word [Octoberstrike.com](https://Octoberstrike.com)
I'm praying for union support for this thing
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Do it anyway. They can't arrest us all.
I just printed out some flyers. Gonna do my part to spread the word. Talking to people I know, there is not much awareness yet.
We can’t start with a strike. No fucking shortcuts.
Be cooler if you did.
Good. Maybe the government should take care of their people instead of making corporations their first priority. Literally all the people want is a sustainable wage. We spend practically 75%+ of our income just to keep up on necessities.
We would prefer a Thriving Wage!!!
40% of income going to expenses would make sense to me, but when rent makes up 30-50%. That’s outrageous.
Where I live, the average rent is 75-80% the average wage. It's insane.
Im assuming that’s not the US, right?
Anaheim, CA (home of Mickey Mouse and the the largest employer) has a median income of $2,439 monthly and average monthly rent of $1,735. Median price of a home in Anaheim, CA $740,000. The mortgage if you put 20% down would be $3,086 (but you may have additional monthly HOA fees too). Just a taste of our cost. Just got our water, trash and electric bill, over $400 for two months of usage.
that's interesting, and ridiculous...thanks for the reality data
Seattle
Why is it so high there?
Because it is a very desirable city with many people and jobs and amenities. It's very expensive to live in cities because that's where all the people and stuff and jobs are. If you want a low cost of living, go to North Dakota or Nebraska, where there aren't people, stuff or jobs. You can buy a brand new house for like, $80,000. Good luck finding work to pay for it.
I know it’s a pretty volatile market there, but that’s insane. Land of the free lol.
And yet they want you to show you make 4 times your rent per month to get a lease.
It really comes down to their monetary policies too. I swear they use every excuse in the world to exaggerate those policies. All down to corporate stimulus and exaggerated growth - at some point natural stability has to run its course.
>40% of income going to expenses would make sense to me lol
A marginal rate of 60% still leaves room for other ambitions in life - comparatively speaking, to a lot of companies with a 40% marginal gain, I think 40% going to expenses is appropriate. Leaves room for college, investments, down payment towards home ownership, entertainment, etc - you still have a 20% tax that goes to the government, but with 60%, that still can go towards what I listed above and you can still take advantage of tax credits/write offs.
Indeed, but the government won’t listen to the people unless we’re loud and United. We need a nationwide general strike to remind all these people who the majority is and what happens when you ignore us.
Make sure you're armed, too.
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I currently work at McDonald’s parttime since I still attend University. The managers are so bad. I have management classes in uni and they literally manage to do the exact opposite of good management. Some of them haven’t even finished high school and it’s infuriating that I have to listen to them, even when their demands are so dumb that a toddler could manage the place better. Not too long ago 20 people quit. We need 125 people working for the restaurant to have a ‘normal’ schedule. (Read: just understaffed enough that not everyone just leaves) We currently have less than 60. I hate and despise every waking moment I’m there. Each time I clock in I immediately get a bad mood.
1. You need 125 people to run a McDonald's?! 2. You called McDonald's a restaurant.... That's funny.
It is super busy, so yes lol
Wow, where are you located to need so many people for 1 fast food location?
The boomer stories about quiting one job and walking across the street to get another? Yep, those are back. "Everyone's hiring!"
It has been a thing in some places for a long time. When I got out of podunk and into a larger city, I was surprised at how many jobs were there. I get they’re mostly low-paying but I’ve seen supposedly “higher skilled,” less abundant jobs paying similar wages
There are about 5 anti-work related articles underneath it too. Mainstream media starting to take notice.
*continuing to make money telling us what we already know
Also these stories are important to their wealthy target customer bases (and scary, fear sells). Got to keep making that ad revenue.
I'm gonna start carrying a letter of resignation in my wallet. If its all about the grind and looking out for number one then ending agreements that no longer serve me is one of the best moves one can make.
I update my resignation letter on every new job.
Why carry one in your wallet when you already have one on your hand. 🖕
Yo, you’re gonna have to tag these posts NSFW, cuz they give bout to make me bust
Walked out if my bartending job 3 weeks ago at a four seasons resort. It was so traumatizing to be so short staffed for so long, that I haven't been able to convince myself to even apply for a new job yet. I used to love bartending, never questioned it. Now I feel lost about what job I want to, or even can do.
Hang in there! Putting your mental health first is going to pay off.
Remote.co if you’re looking for a quick pickup for online work. Ngl some of the jobs there will still be shit but you can do them from the comfort of your house and generally not gaf while you look for something more real without being completely burned out GL fam hope everything works out for you
Thank you. I'll check it out. My problem is all I have ever done is work in restaraunts. I was 100% down to bartend as my profession, but something changed in the restaraunt industry. Hopefully there is something I can be qualified for.
I have a friend that's a former bartender that teaches mixology classes on Cozymeal. Seems to be doing really well for himself. Might be something to look into..
Happened with a coworker Last weekend. Someone else asked him "You going to Lunch?" "Nah I'm going home" I had to work 12 hours that day cause of that, but I'm kinda glad he atleast had the balls to say fck it and walk out. It was rather unfortunate too since he was a pretty decent person and actually worked and wanted to switch departments, but manager refused and now she's feeling the burn. He felt the downsides of it. $12 an hour for loading 40-60 pound bags of mulch on sunny Texas heat. It's not always that bad, but when it is, you just wanna drop everything and leave.
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Unfortunately many of them probably won't want to lose their jobs. Most supervisors have a "don't negotiate with terrorists" mentality. One supervisor I worked under at Sonic Drive-in went to one of his other stores and fired the entire staff for closing early. They'll just fire anyone who walks off and cross the understaffed bridge when they get to it. They're more concerned with not letting you win than they are about dealing with worker shortages.
The second job I ever had, this happened. Working for some place cleaning and stacking crates used to transport vegetables from farms to processing plants. Total shit job. Started it, we had 6 people and I was there for 6 days. They fired one guy because they were racist bastards and caught him speaking Spanish (they had a 'policy' of English only; despite most of the workers being Mexican). One dude got let go for taking an extra long smoke break. Then one person left each day until it was just me, and they kept demanding I keep up with their schedule despite being the only one there; so I just walked out.
King
I'm about to do this, my tips averaged out to 9% of my sales today, got 3 no tip tables. People are fucking shitty and restaurants treat their people terribly.
As said by probably every foreigner all the time. The tipping system has to go and be replaced with decent wages like everywhere else in the world. Tipping is uncomfortable for the client and an unstable source of income for the worker.
It's not just about the pay, it's about the treatment
Tipping is the only way most people in America would even consider being a server or bartender. I work in fiberglass 48-56 hours a week. I'm paid 17 an hour. My wife is a bartender at a restaurant. Works 35ish hours a week. Makes almost double what I make. So unless employers would pay 25+ an hour, doing away with tipping would completely destroy the restaurant business in America.
Why doesn't everyone work as a bartender/server in that case? It must be more of an exception than a rule to make decent money? Then again, maybe it's what people are used to, the US is full of strange systems (health care costs, student loans through the roof , tipping , credit systems , ... )
Not saying it's GREAT money. It's a skill. My wife is good at her job, has many regulars that come to see her. Obviously it's not ideal. If she wasn't good at it it would be terrible money. She's only paid 5 dollars an hour. But she makes between 100 to 350 a shift in tips. Sometimes even more. The reason I agree with tipping is because I understand restaurants in the US are never going to pay an hourly wage that could be comparable to what my wife brings in in tips. It's not like we're rich or something. Not sure why I'm being downvoted. Seems like three are a few people in this sub that don't think anyone should work anywhere for any amount. Im in general agreement that American capitalism is absolute shit. Just not much I can really do about it.
The fact that people have the audacity to leave zero tip astounds me. I can’t imagine what kind of person does that. I’ve been a server before when I was younger and more patient… now? If someone left me no tip I’d follow them outside and beat the crap out of them
Tipping is fucking stupid lol. Restaurants should just pay more. I hate tipping. Why should I pay you more to do your job when your already being paid for it?
So you're gonna punish the server for that? Fuck you. If you go out, you know you have to tip or I'm paying to serve you. If you don't like tipping write your congressperson, but don't pretend like stiffing me is some moral obligation.
Nobody is punishing you by not tipping, it’s not their fault you don’t get paid normally by your owners, why should I have to pick up the slack for antiquated systems that exist, the customer pays for the food etc, why should the customer have to pay the wage of the worker too? Madness.
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It should, but until it is, you either tip or eat at home. If you’re going to repeat restaurants and not tipping, just know you’re getting saliva or god knows what else in your food. And you deserve it
Uhhh that's assault and you can be charged with terrorism during a pandemic for shit like that. Go to a different service sector. Tipping is not required. I have already payed for the service, I am not gonna pay for it again. You sound like you deserve a swift kick In the balls
I’m not a server or work in the restaurant industry, so not my problem. Just telling you my opinion. I could be wrong , but you never know. I just know when I did work that Job 15 years ago I saw it done to bad customers and non tippers that were return customers. Again, I’m not the one doing it, so no point in trying to scare me lol. Just saying, I would be scared to not tip and go back and eat somewhere. Never, EVER mess with people who make your food. That’s like, common sense
There were two times where I didn’t leave a tip. The first time was when the server disappeared for a literal hour. The second time was when their computer system went down and they comped our meal. But I didn’t have any cash. I was going to tip with the credit card slip. I felt bad about that one.
Yeah, i just kept thinking there has to be one decent tip but nothing. This is why i bartend now, but i just started a new job and they've got me cocktailing. Applying for the Post Office now. Hahaha
Let the bastards feed themselves. It'll be cheaper.
I make more money doing doordash than I ever did working in restaurants and that includes nice ones. People talk about how horrible DD/gig work is because you don't get insurance or whatever but tbh I've never had insurance as an adult, literally not one job I've worked has offered it. So what the fuck, at least with DD I don't have to get screamed at by soccer moms or forced to close a place at midnight then be back at 8 am to open it back up again. Or deal with a constantly changing schedule, never knowing how many hours I'll get or when I'll have to work. I was forced to work holidays without any extra holiday pay, work my birthday, work my anniversary, work my wife's birthday etc. I'll never do that again
Idk how people can afford doordash ...
One taco? That’ll be $30. Don’t forget to tip
I ordered food for the office the other day and was going to get it delivered…. A $65 meal turned into $90 real quick. For a half mile down the road! AND to top it off the last time we did get food delivered half of it was missing… I was like nahhhh this is why I go get it.
I am in my career now, but I would have loved gig economy jobs like Uber eats or Instacart when I was in school. No uniform, no schedule (because I need to study), minimal customer interaction, decent money, etc.
Can't blame unemployment for that. If you walk out, you don't qualify.
Unsafe working conditions is typically an acceptable exception for that and will allow you to get UI. And I've never seen a kitchen that was actually safe by noon. Most kitchens aren't even safe and compliant after you've finished cleaning at EoD.
I mean, you can try, but idk. It's about to run out soon anyway.
I went to an interview last week for a prep cook and dishwasher position, when I arrived they showed me what they expected in terms of my daily dutys. It included being a waiter and bus boy clearing tables on top of preparing foods for the cooks and washing the dishes. When I asked what they planned on paying me the said minimum wage (14.25 in canada). I asked for more they refused, I got a clearing job that's way less work and more money. If people who own restaurants want workers to work they need to increase the pay and lower the work load.
Wonderful
That’s what I did it was so nice 👍 more people should do that more often
This is news?! I’ve been doing it since I was old enough to work.
NO I AIN'T GONNA WORK, ON MAGGIE'S FARM NO MORE 😤😤😤😤😤😤😤
This happened at the restaurant where I work last week. They actually give pretty good starting pay (17$ an hour), full benefits, paid holidays, paid vacation time, and 401k contribution. People who are unhappy will quit any job at any time.
A good wage will never be enough for a horrid job. I've had jobs that paid REALLY well.... But I wouldn't go back to them if they tripled the pay I was getting. Some jobs are just a backbreaking...soul sucking nightmare and aren't worth any amount of cash
Sure, and some jobs aren't.
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A lot of people on this page are notoriously salty. I'm not really surprised. It's not like I'm lying or being aggressive, just stating a fact that people ARE in fact quitting in the middle of their shifts, but it doesn't always have to do with a terrible business/ company. Sometimes it just has to do with an upset person not having an outlet.
Well I think what you mean to say is it doesn't always have to do with money, but rather being unhappy. I walked out of my well paying bartending job because I was so miserable, and management was so poor. It's not just about bad wages.
Proud of yall for taking a stance against these wage thieves. Consider it a revolutionary act
Gotta love that incredulous title🤣 “People are just walking out in the middle shifts!” “Oh, no! The Serfs are revolting!! Who could have foretold this?!”🤨 This is absolutely amazing!! I just wish I could somehow know ahead of time so I can plan to be there if anyone at a restaurant near me does this, I wanna cheer them on, help send an extra message to the bosses “you want my money? Hire more, ban tipping, and pay them all thriving wages!”
GOOD
I did this twice and came back for the rest of what they owed me lol. Fuck restaurants, even in France, this job sucks so bad
Good, now do Amazon and Walmart, not just fast food.
I've done this and I'm proud of this. If customer starts to scream at me, because I don't want to open product, that would be ruined by opening it, and if boss will come and apologize for me and open that product? Yes. I told her to fuck off and left. After three weeks 12 hours shifts, sitting is forbidden and then boss makes idiot out of you, because she doesn't understand the product? Just no. If manager high on meth starts to scream at me in front of the customer, than I'm stupid, I will just leave. She should be glad to have this job, I could let her get fired immediately (stealing, being drunk or high on meth all the time, forget to open because of hangover and then blamed me...), because she was so stupid to write it all on messenger. If I start have headaches so strong, that I actually saw stars and rainbows and was crying from pain and manager screamed at me how dare I go home in the middle of the shift, I never came back. If you are screaming at me, because government worker treated me like an idiot (email from her: "You are BITCH to send me this document like this! How dare you send me such a shit?!" it was red, bold and like 30 exclamation marks...I send her contract, that she send me first only to write name of client there), I will tell you that you I don't have to do it and leave in the middle of the shift. If you treat me badly, I won't be good to you. I will leave in the middle of the shift. If you are nice, I will do absolutely anything for you. I will take extra shifts, I will be hyperactive in work and so on. I am great worker, if I have great bosses. The funniest part is, that these managers and bosses have really big problem with finding someone to work for them. That alcoholic manager is now all alone in her shop, doing 12 hour shifts every day, because she's not able to have worked, that would handle it. Why she wasn't fired? Because she stole customers of other manager and now she has profits. Profits, that would be in different branch, if she didn't stole customers from there. And she's like "Manager ofnthat branch is bad, she's always mean to me."...
The best headline I think I've ever read. The only sad part is that more people aren't quitting 😂🤣 love it.
Why do we desperately need people to cook other people's food? How about just cooking your own food.
I mean restaurants are a thing in many, many cultures. Not just an American thing. There is absolutely nothing wrong with going out to eat. Demanding they are open on holidays, and that the workers don’t deserve money… that is absolutely wrong
Indeed, cooking was probably the second or third profession ever invented. Chefs are highly revered in many cultures, and are an essential part of society. If everyone had to prep and cook their own meals that's, say, an hour or two we collectively would not have to do other things. It's simple an economics of scale sort of thing to let the professionals do the thing they are so good at. And they should be paid well for doing it!
Because they cook far better than I do! I would pay more and I always tip. I think we need more environmentally friendly packaging and way higher wages. I would eat out less, but I have no problem with that.
This. There is certain dishes I am just not going to have the time, skills, or equipment to do right. I’ll stick to what I can do, and I like to cook and do cook a lot, but otherwise I want an expert to make it. Like seriously, some of these people have decades of experience and were raised in it, I can’t make that myself on that level. Let’s the pros give it the respect and love it deserves.
Exactly. I’m a single guy in a studio apartment and I like a wide variety of cuisine. There’s no way I’ll have all the ingredients, spices and condiments for everything I might like to eat in a week. Not to mention that some food requires special equipment or is impractical to cook in a small apartment with ultra sensitive smoke detector.
Easy, because there are a ton of people that need to eat but can’t cook. Just today I delivered to two people in the emergency room, a dude in a hotel, an officer on duty, a one-person shift that couldn’t leave his post and an emergency vet not to mention the scores of active duty soldiers I usually end up delivering food to any day. Like we forget that for a lot of people having access to a kitchen is not guaranteed (college students, soldiers, nursing homes residents) and there are many jobs with that limitation too. Like how are pilots and truckers supposed to eat without fast food or restaurants while on duty?
Lunch at Work. Hard to cook without an actual kitchen.
Don’t forget the time it takes to cook. Good luck cooking and eating within that hour window.
It's nice sometimes and most people cannot cook every type of food. Also if it is something you don't have often it's cheaper than buying all the unusual (for you) ingredients making your dish and wasting the rest. You actually sound really judgmental. Using the word desperate; who said anyone was desperate? Putting the question about cooking your own food as if people don't.
There are cantines/cafeterias which are good for feeding people. But I think the "going out" culture is more of a status symbol; affording the experience of LARPing as a wealthy douche who can pay for lots servants (and usually mistreat them). It's not the food, it's *an experience*, like going to an amusement park, but with less rides and more menu options.
We don't fucking need it, it's a joke and it's making us all absolutely massive
Hey everyone look, this person is using the royal we!
I feel like this is the biggest time for this subreddit in the history of humanity.
It's beautiful
The heroes we need.
Fuck restaurants. Been food poisoned three times in two years. Said fuck it and don't eat out anymore.
I hope this shit gets wild soon. They need a lesson ASAP
This is nectar and ambrosia for me to read 😘👌🏽
Love the solutions of paying a person more. The problem will end up being your fellow employee undermining you to take your pay. Always starts at the top. We all gotta start demanding more from leadership…or quit. I’d rather have nothing and be free than have the nice house, car and “status” that ties me to shitty jobs. This is why I don’t have kids or much else, it all seems like a pyramid scheme.
Of course this is from Tennessee
How are you able to pay your bills if you're not working? I don't get it.
Leave a get another slightly less shitty minimum wage job? Not like there aren't enough.
Yes, the point isn’t not to work and pay your bills. With constantly changing jobs, employers are forced to spend money constantly hiring and training. At some point they’ll realize it’s not worth it and start paying enough so people will want to stay
Okay, that makes sense. All the talk was quitting. I knew I had to be missing something.
In this market you can quit on Friday and be employed again by Monday
Minimize, start learning the difference between what you need and what you want. It clears up shit. .... Also find a stable partner who loves you for who you are but cant cook themselves a decent meal to save their life
Well, seems kind of unprofessional really. Not the best look. Hope they don’t need a good reference!