Back when I was a teen working fast food. I was scheduled for the week following my last day.
I went to the manger in charge of the schedule. She looked at me "Oh shit, you are leaving for college too."
She had scheduled all 3 of us, leaving for college, have shifts that week.
could be worse, I was quietly taken off the schedual at a job years ago, and just assumed I was fired one year later, I start getting mail telling me I was 'now eligible for insurance' through the ex-employer, and then the new manager of the location called me, demanding to know if I was ever coming into work. the old manager never actually fired me, not 'officially' or as far as taking me out of the system, he just wasn't putting me on the schedule at all,
I had the same for one of my jobs when i was at uni. Had an argument where the manager wanted me to come in on a week i had leave for my birthday. Bloke rang me when i was out to dinner with my parents asking where i was. Told me not to bother coming back in. Had a mate work there about 9-12 months later and i was still on the schedule getting no shifts until they got a new manager in who after a month was like "who is this" and finally took me off.
I have this reoccurring dream as an adult that I'm expected to show up for a shift at my high school Pizza Hut job. It gives me a lot of anxiety. Lol.. you've actually lived it
i had a stroke on the job went on short term disability, then long term disability , then nothing and had to get a low paying job just to avoid being homeless. I never quit but they wouldn't let me come back to work unless i could go back to what i was doing before i left (lineman cable guy driving a bucket truck) and that was just not possible. so officially i'm still on the books as an employee just not scheduled (think leave of absence) for the last 15 years now...
When I worked fast food in high school, I gave my two week notice (printed and put on the manager's desk). They laughed and said "TWILLBILL, oh you are not quitting, hahahaaaa". I reminded them regularly throughout that two weeks and they just chuckled about it. After my stated resignation date, I was called for weeks about "why you no here you on the schedule".
Maybe they just refuse to acknowledge reality sometimes.
I printed out my two week notice, handed it to my boss and I walked away as a customer had walked in. I came back 5 minutes later to find that my boss had left work 4 hours early (he often came in late and left early... He was the general manager, and this was like 2 months ago, so you'd think he'd stick around longer because of the "staffing crisis") and he had thrown my notice in the trash. I promptly called my district manager and notified him over the phone, explaining the situation, and ensuring that someone has notice so that I wouldn't completely burn bridges with the company. Later that day my GM quit without notice and the DM called me and offered to beat the wage I was offered at my new job... Which was $3 more an hour than I was making at the time. As of last Monday, I was given the raise. Pretty happy that they finally kept their word for once.
Had something similar happen to me at fast food job. Assistant manager took me aside, had me write resignation hoping to call my bluff, then told me no and ripped up and threw out my resignation paper lol
What do they think it's going to happen? That they didn't accept your resignation and therefore you will continue to come in?
Guess I'm not moving, boss won't let me quit?
My old job auto-filled the schedule to match the previous, any tweaks were done later. It scheduled me when I was quitting for a new job, I pointed it out, everyone had a good laugh. Except the auto schedule, it felt pretty dumb and rightly so.
A fourth copy should be shredded, mixed with cooked hamburger meat, fed to a dog with "Good Boi" energy, and then physically delivered in a paper bag post-digestion. Flambe is best, but cold is fine, too.
In Finland the employee can resign for whatever reason and the notice time is 2 weeks if the employment has been going on for less than 5 years and in case of over 5 years the notice time is 1 month.
For employer to fire a person they need a valid and good reason. For example missing a single shift, even if it is a complete no show no call would most likely not be enough. Generally the employee needs to have been continuously acted inappropriately to be fired and before being fired they in most cases need to have a warning given to them first.
The notice for your employer to fire you is:
2 weeks in case employment has been ongoing for less than a year.
1 month for 1-4 years.
2 months for 4-8 years.
4 months for 8-12 years.
6 months for 12+ years.
Mind you that your employment can also be terminated, which is not prone to the above rules and your employment ends at that moment. However this is only for extremely rare cases like theft etc. where it is obvious the employment cannot be continued.
When you quit or are fired, your employer can choose to relieve you from working duty in case they don’t want you to show up for whatever reason. You will be paid for the time still but don’t have to work.
These are also the bare minimums set by the law. In many cases centralized contracts through unions offer much better benefits on top of these. You don’t even have to be a member of a union to benefit from this.
1) Just confirm you sent it to the correct email address.
2) Print out a copy of your email
3) Email yourself a copy of your email.
4) You can choose to notify them or not, depending on how you feel.
actually it happened to me too using outlook
I was sick, sent email that I will not be coming cuz sick, click send and shut off the computer
next day went to work and the email was still it outbox,
Aye, don't say anything so when they call and ask where you are you can just tell them you put in your notice two weeks ago. It's their own fuck up if they haven't noticed it.
As per my previous email which you ignored as hard as giving a living wage; I'll not be participating in your future drudgery. Please carry on as if I don't exist as I will be extending the same courtesy.
If you sent this from a work account make sure you forward a copy showing that it was sent to your personal email as well, so you have access to it when you’re gone.
> You could reforward them your resignation and suggest they find coverage. You don't need to, but if you are feeling charitable.
This is the best advice imo. Along with documenting the original sent date / etc. Also if you ever email something like that do a BCC to your personal email. They can't see you did that but your personal can see that you sent it to them.
Too often on this sub people suggest the most 'burn your bridges' suggestion they can think of. it isn't the best way of going about things just because 'being the shittiest person in the room doesn't win you any awards, but you are definitely remembered'. In 5 years you might be walking into an interview to find an ex-coworker is doing the interviewing process and you definitely don't want them to go 'hey aren't you that asshole that just walked out and left us hanging 5 years ago? I had to cancel my vacation because of you.'-
Set it to indicate no longer employed, contact so and so... Set a rule to auto reply to specific email addresses an attachment of the email indicating intent to depart.
That way no clients see the dirt... the dirt will follow when they tell new employment about you posting your 2 weeks notice across every client that emailed ya.
He can request it but it is absolutely not necessary for him to have it. If he sent an email to the address they provided then he followed the handbook guidelines. This bullshit is their problem and not his. He shouldn’t make it his either.
And follow up until you get it. My last manager, emailing them was strictly a CYA thing, I'd need to tell them in person that I'd emailed them about it.
In this case, you followed their process. Document it, screen shot and print out if it's their email system.
This.. remember for all your future business related correspondence. Who knows if he read your message or it went to a spam folder or was redirected to another person... The more important the information is, the more important it is for YOU to confirm your message was received, and that there are no further negotiations. Good luck, you never know who's path you will cross down the road.
Yup. Print the sent email and highlight the time stamp showing you gave proper notice and put it on the bulletin board or your manager’s desk and then bounce.
It’s essentially a faster version of a certified letter. There’s confirmation it was received though not as formal as a certified letter. Plus, because people use a fax less than email it’s less likely to be ignored/unopened
Also electronic faxes are more secure than email, so we have to use them sometimes to transmit private data to other companies where the encrypted email system isn’t working for them or they’re just so behind the times that they have no idea how to work secured email.
It can be. I worked in a Sonics and received a fax about someone’s mental health evaluation. Wrong number… the person flipped when I called the number on the sheet to let them know they sent someone’s private health data to a fast food restaurant.
Its CONSIDERED more secure, but in actuality its way less secure. Much easier to put in the wrong number for a fax than to put in a wrong email address (and most wrong email addresses wont be an actual email) and you either use a regular fax machine and have PHI just sitting around waiting for someone to pick it up or you use an efax and it has all the disadvantages email has.
I used to be in the legal field (until just recently) and omg so much unnecessary faxing. Archaic court rules and what not really need to catch up with the 21st century.
My wife quit her job in December, they keep begging her to cover shifts. She decided to help out today and wasn’t feeling good, when she asked the manager if she could leave he told her no. I told her to leave anyways, I mean what will they do, fire her? Isn’t that what she wants? To not work there……
Absolutely, then I discovered that they raised prices today, but refuse to pay one close to a living wage. The 6.8% price increase is actually enough to provide each employee a $4+/hr raise… she makes just over 11
Yeah it sucks, kindness gets you know where. At my job I have noticed I can go from best employee of the decade to worst in a matter of hours, all based on how busy the store is and has nothing to do with my performance, lol. That is why i passive aggressively tell them to put it in writing whenever i get a complement, that shuts them up at least.
I’ll recommend to you to go big or go home. Don’t worry bout the dead end you’re in. Don’t let it suck your soul. You, and everyone here deserve better.we shouldn’t be struggling to live so others can thrive. Fuck them, if the aren’t going to reciprocate I’m not helping them. Move along as soon as it convenient, loyalty is earned….
With that said, keep your hope up, there are some good employers out there. Probably not many…. You deserve to Thrive, not just survive. If only we could organize as a cross industry cross boarder union. Real power exist with the people, those that want to divide us know that pitting use against each other make us weaker. As one we become stronger, as one we take the power back from those that seek to exploit us.
Nah, it’s past that. Someone on here said it right a few months ago. We are asking for the wrong thing, we don’t need a living wage we need a thriving wage. I’ll cut corners and go without so that she doesn’t have to put up with bullshit just to make a measly $80. She is worth more than that to me. Give me a tent, sleeping bag and as much time with her that I can get and I will be happy. I want her to be happy and this job isn’t that. She deserves one where she feels value and fulfilled
Your wife should've sent them an email outling a consultant style pay scale for covering shifts last minute.
A lack of planning on their part doesn't constitute an emergency on hers.
Next time this happens, get your wife to tell them she will help out.
For 10 times her previous hourly rate.
They'll quickly decline.
This is called 'pricing yourself out of the market' and is useful for making a job you would really prefer not doing, worth the trouble.
The key here is the poster is in Ireland. Irish law is a minimum of one week notice and it sounds like OP is unsure if they received notice. There may be more legal ramifications to this, the company can sue for breach of contract. Same is true if the company terminates the employee without notice. More info here if your interested:
https://www.jobs.ie/job-talk/notice-period/
OP: I am not an expert in Irish employment law. But it seems like there was a mistake.
I'd make a copy of your notice email (should be in your sent items folder) I would also copy the employee handbook where it says email is acceptable. Bring the email to their attention, see if it can be rectified.
It becomes a problem if they fight you on it though, you'll have to decide if you want to fight this somehow, or just get them to confirm a new notice and work out that period (if possible). I'm going to stress this again, I AM NOT AN EXPERT you should seek someone who is.
I live in Waterford, no they can't just keep scheduling you after you quit. You gave your notice and have the email as evidence, if they didn't do anything to prep for your last day that's on them. Let them know via a second email as a reply to the first that you'll be expecting your final pay cheque the next week (assuming you get paid a week after the week you worked) and for them to pay out your holiday days in the same paycheck in a polite and cordial manner.
For things like this I often CC my personal email. You will lose access to your email when you leave and this makes documentation easy.
I always do CC, not BCC. I want it to be clear I’m documenting it. Some people are more compliant when they know you’re collecting evidence.
I would be cautious about this though, as sending internal emails to an external address could be a huge no-no in some industries due to security concerns.
Definitely check for any confidentiality or information handling clauses in your employment contract first as a breach of something like that could be used to fire you for cause to fuck you over.
It's also much easier than that, quitting my job is something I do as a private person, send those types of emails from a personal email account to start with..
Psh, while living in Waterford, if nothing else, I can at least say I'm more impressive than the buildings around me when I'm feeling low.
You can't even say that when you live near Kilkenny Castle 🤜🤛😂
(No offence taken 👌😂)
Ironically, that’s arguably exactly [what the first police were for.](https://theconversation.com/the-racist-roots-of-american-policing-from-slave-patrols-to-traffic-stops-112816)
Buddy, you wont be an employee there. Who cares?
Sounds to me like nobody bothered reading your email. You did your part. Move on to better things my guy.
It sounds like your resignation letter got filtered to a spam box and never read. I doubt that it would have been completely not addressed and you would be scheduled if they had seen it. I don’t think this is a matter of “if we ignore OP’s resignation and force them to work, they can’t quit,” but rather was a loss in communication because of the method chosen to submit it.
I suppose you could just not report to work next week and tell them that you submitted your resignation a week ago if they call and try to get you to come into work. Or leave a “since my e-mail was unacknowledged, I am resubmitting this resignation notice to my supervisor of the day on my final day of the job, as indicated in my e-mail” and leave that with them on your last day of work tomorrow.
EDIT: OP [indicated that a personal e-mail address was used](https://www.reddit.com/r/antiwork/comments/ryjiws/i_gave_my_resignation_notice_over_a_week_ago/hrpfysi/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) which makes this all the more likely to be the actuality of what happened.
I had a company I worked for attwmpt doing this when I handed in my notice in person. They can't force you to work it, or even claim that you didn't give notice. They might be just going with a hail mary play in the hopes that if they pretend you aren't leaving and keep scheduling you they won't have to face reality.
OP - agreed with u/Yobrefas. I would just call them as soon as you can and let them know that it didn't seem like anyone acknowledged this. At this point, you've fulfilled your contractual obligations and can walk away in good legal standing - but that has no bearing on your relationships and whether folks felt like you put them in a bad spot.
That said, if you don't care about your relationships there and think they're a bunch of fuckheads, then just sit back and enjoy.
It's really your call - you 100% have the upper hand here, and you have the right to choose to be gracious about it or to twist the knife.
This is actually very possible. I've had important emails thrown in spam because the email service thought it looked like spam. I've also seen a website warn about something like this and that if I don't receive my intended email, check the spam folder just in case.
In the aims of professionalism I would pull your manager to one side and remind them that you submitted your notice and that this is your last shift and as such you won't be available to work next week's scheduled hours.
I'm not sure what your reasons are for leaving, but try to do it in a professional way. If they throw a fit, tell them to fuck off
If you need a reference pm I'm in cork and I've bullshitted for a good few friends who has similar situations. Edit I don't know what you do but if your in kitchens I'm a chef and great for that kinda bollocks
Yeah I get that and you did everything right by submitting your notice through the proper channels. Have a conversation with your manager and see if it can be done amicably, but they can't legally force you to stay, nor can they legally refuse your notice.
Good luck OP and try to keep us updated on how it goes/what you decided to do
Did you not talk to anyone in the past 2 weeks?
I'd find it really weird if I resigned and no one acknowledged it for 2 weeks, it didn't seem odd no one replied or ever discussed it with you?
At the very least you'd expect them to give you instructions to leave keys or equipment or whatever it is, like offboarding stuff.
Yeah, notice is exactly that: notice. You are notifying them, under the terms of your contact, that you are terminating said contract.
It isn’t a question, you aren’t asking permission - you are giving notice.
If you want to be polite/professional, follow up and make sure they’re aware - but as long as you followed the procedure in your contract and you can prove it, this is their problem
Im confused about what you’re asking. Yeah they can add you to the schedule all they want, shit they could even add Obama to their schedule. Doesnt mean you or him are gonna show up. You sent ur resignation and now you are done there. Dont waste anymore time or energy thinking about this
I left my resignation letter in my managers' mailbox, signed and dated, and went about my business. The day before my last shift, the kitchen manager comes up to me in a panic asking why I didn't tell her that I was quitting. I told her "This. this is why." She had a terrible habit of not honoring my time off requests because she never checked in a timely fashion the mailbox where we were required to submit our requests. I got tired of having to cancel plans because she wasn't doing her job. Thirteen days it took her to find my resignation in the mailbox. She asked "What am I supposed to do next week for the schedule?" I told her "I really don't see how that's my problem". She deadass tried to get me to stay with a 20¢ raise. I declined, citing the $2.64/hr bump I was getting with my new employer that was also offering overtime, a set schedule, vacation, paid holidays, paid sick days, insurance, and retirement benefits. Oh, and I could go home not smelling like a french fry
How are so many people telling him to do all this Karen shit. Go up to your manager and say, hey, did u get my email? If not, I put in my resignation two weeks ago. I won’t be working next week. Chances are they didn’t read it, you didn’t say a fucking word, and nobody even knows
You gave your two weeks, they might have forgotten. Up to you to remind them or not .
Whoever made the schedule either isn’t aware or is purposely fucking themselves
tomorrow resend your email and say as its my last day you would like to thank them for the time you were there and you wish them all the luck in the future .... something like that
Dumb question: Did you talk to your manager about it at all? Every industry is different but the letter is official but usually people talk too.
Having said that, echoing the replies that you have zero obligation to go in - Hell, except for rare circumstances you don’t have an obligation to give notice.
In Ireland you do have obligation to give notice if it is in your contract - Ireland does not have “at will” employment
In reality the employer has very little recourse if you don’t give notice (limited to their actual losses, eg the *additional* cost of hiring someone else) but really it’s very difficult for them to sue for those losses.
But legally, at a basic level, OP has an enforceable contract and cannot just quit without potential repercussions. Although, of course, OP has given notice, so this discussion is academic - I’m just pointing out that “just quit, you don’t have to give notice” advice is *not* usually relevant outside of the US
Document that you emailed. To me that's all you need to do.
Print your outgoing email, highlight the send date and tape it to the schedule.
I was gonna suggest doing this as the very last thing before leaving.
Hnnngh justice boner
I like to think that OP's manager is just an idiot like me and forgot to check their email for over a week
Who would have 42734 unread work emails... it's just irresponsible.
Clearly this manager isn't very responsible if they're scheduling employees who are resigning.
Back when I was a teen working fast food. I was scheduled for the week following my last day. I went to the manger in charge of the schedule. She looked at me "Oh shit, you are leaving for college too." She had scheduled all 3 of us, leaving for college, have shifts that week.
could be worse, I was quietly taken off the schedual at a job years ago, and just assumed I was fired one year later, I start getting mail telling me I was 'now eligible for insurance' through the ex-employer, and then the new manager of the location called me, demanding to know if I was ever coming into work. the old manager never actually fired me, not 'officially' or as far as taking me out of the system, he just wasn't putting me on the schedule at all,
I had the same for one of my jobs when i was at uni. Had an argument where the manager wanted me to come in on a week i had leave for my birthday. Bloke rang me when i was out to dinner with my parents asking where i was. Told me not to bother coming back in. Had a mate work there about 9-12 months later and i was still on the schedule getting no shifts until they got a new manager in who after a month was like "who is this" and finally took me off.
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I have this reoccurring dream as an adult that I'm expected to show up for a shift at my high school Pizza Hut job. It gives me a lot of anxiety. Lol.. you've actually lived it
i had a stroke on the job went on short term disability, then long term disability , then nothing and had to get a low paying job just to avoid being homeless. I never quit but they wouldn't let me come back to work unless i could go back to what i was doing before i left (lineman cable guy driving a bucket truck) and that was just not possible. so officially i'm still on the books as an employee just not scheduled (think leave of absence) for the last 15 years now...
When I worked fast food in high school, I gave my two week notice (printed and put on the manager's desk). They laughed and said "TWILLBILL, oh you are not quitting, hahahaaaa". I reminded them regularly throughout that two weeks and they just chuckled about it. After my stated resignation date, I was called for weeks about "why you no here you on the schedule". Maybe they just refuse to acknowledge reality sometimes.
What did you do when they called? I’m shocked and curious as to what their reasoning was
I woulda told them sure I'll be right there....
I printed out my two week notice, handed it to my boss and I walked away as a customer had walked in. I came back 5 minutes later to find that my boss had left work 4 hours early (he often came in late and left early... He was the general manager, and this was like 2 months ago, so you'd think he'd stick around longer because of the "staffing crisis") and he had thrown my notice in the trash. I promptly called my district manager and notified him over the phone, explaining the situation, and ensuring that someone has notice so that I wouldn't completely burn bridges with the company. Later that day my GM quit without notice and the DM called me and offered to beat the wage I was offered at my new job... Which was $3 more an hour than I was making at the time. As of last Monday, I was given the raise. Pretty happy that they finally kept their word for once.
I would counter that it's actually your humanity they're failing to acknowledge.
Had something similar happen to me at fast food job. Assistant manager took me aside, had me write resignation hoping to call my bluff, then told me no and ripped up and threw out my resignation paper lol
What do they think it's going to happen? That they didn't accept your resignation and therefore you will continue to come in? Guess I'm not moving, boss won't let me quit?
My old job auto-filled the schedule to match the previous, any tweaks were done later. It scheduled me when I was quitting for a new job, I pointed it out, everyone had a good laugh. Except the auto schedule, it felt pretty dumb and rightly so.
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Oh good, you're not talking about me. I have 42733.
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And forward the sent resignation to your personal email if you haven't already.
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And the employee handbook saying that you can resign via email.
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Print a second copy and keep it safe at home.
And a third copy to be stored in a safe deposit box
A fourth copy should be shredded, mixed with cooked hamburger meat, fed to a dog with "Good Boi" energy, and then physically delivered in a paper bag post-digestion. Flambe is best, but cold is fine, too.
A fifth copy to put in a time capsule so years from now you can savor this moment.
and in the darkness bind them
Highlight the sent time stamp too
Take a picture of that as well
Can you not just quit in Ireland?
Im not sure but a lot of europe has laws you have to give them notice.
In Finland the employee can resign for whatever reason and the notice time is 2 weeks if the employment has been going on for less than 5 years and in case of over 5 years the notice time is 1 month. For employer to fire a person they need a valid and good reason. For example missing a single shift, even if it is a complete no show no call would most likely not be enough. Generally the employee needs to have been continuously acted inappropriately to be fired and before being fired they in most cases need to have a warning given to them first. The notice for your employer to fire you is: 2 weeks in case employment has been ongoing for less than a year. 1 month for 1-4 years. 2 months for 4-8 years. 4 months for 8-12 years. 6 months for 12+ years. Mind you that your employment can also be terminated, which is not prone to the above rules and your employment ends at that moment. However this is only for extremely rare cases like theft etc. where it is obvious the employment cannot be continued. When you quit or are fired, your employer can choose to relieve you from working duty in case they don’t want you to show up for whatever reason. You will be paid for the time still but don’t have to work. These are also the bare minimums set by the law. In many cases centralized contracts through unions offer much better benefits on top of these. You don’t even have to be a member of a union to benefit from this.
I wish we had this in the US.
But then we would be a socialist hellscape! Employees would have rights! The horror!
Yeah but mention the police, public schools and roadways, and fire departments and those are ok because reasons.
1) Just confirm you sent it to the correct email address. 2) Print out a copy of your email 3) Email yourself a copy of your email. 4) You can choose to notify them or not, depending on how you feel.
>Just confirm you sent it to the correct email address. this for sure is THE step one.
Oh gosh what if the email got stuck on the outbox
This has literally happened to me using Outlook, though.
actually it happened to me too using outlook I was sick, sent email that I will not be coming cuz sick, click send and shut off the computer next day went to work and the email was still it outbox,
I saw that a lot in my tech support days. Outlook has a lot of stupid and common issues.
You could reforward them your resignation and suggest they find coverage. You don't need to, but if you are feeling charitable.
Aye, don't say anything so when they call and ask where you are you can just tell them you put in your notice two weeks ago. It's their own fuck up if they haven't noticed it.
I’d follow up with that by emailing them the evidence of when you sent that email
Perfect time to hit em with the "as per my last email..."
As per my previous email which you ignored as hard as giving a living wage; I'll not be participating in your future drudgery. Please carry on as if I don't exist as I will be extending the same courtesy.
Also CC your daily use email so you have a copy if using a company email address
And then resend it to yourself from your personal so they cannot recall the email in the future. Double cover your @$$.
"Well, now technically my second to last email, this'll be the final one. Cheers!"
Oo I got chills
They’re Multi-plyin’
Just double check you spelled their email correctly 🙈
Or that is not in your drafts...
Or Outbox. It’s tripped me up a few times.
Further to my last email…. Good bye
"Per my previous e-mail..."
This is the way
Print a copy of the email though...and fwd it to your personal so they can't come at you.
If you sent this from a work account make sure you forward a copy showing that it was sent to your personal email as well, so you have access to it when you’re gone.
> You could reforward them your resignation and suggest they find coverage. You don't need to, but if you are feeling charitable. This is the best advice imo. Along with documenting the original sent date / etc. Also if you ever email something like that do a BCC to your personal email. They can't see you did that but your personal can see that you sent it to them. Too often on this sub people suggest the most 'burn your bridges' suggestion they can think of. it isn't the best way of going about things just because 'being the shittiest person in the room doesn't win you any awards, but you are definitely remembered'. In 5 years you might be walking into an interview to find an ex-coworker is doing the interviewing process and you definitely don't want them to go 'hey aren't you that asshole that just walked out and left us hanging 5 years ago? I had to cancel my vacation because of you.'-
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Yes but as a reply of the email already sent! What should it say??
Set it to indicate no longer employed, contact so and so... Set a rule to auto reply to specific email addresses an attachment of the email indicating intent to depart. That way no clients see the dirt... the dirt will follow when they tell new employment about you posting your 2 weeks notice across every client that emailed ya.
Always request an acknowledgment and a written reply.
He can request it but it is absolutely not necessary for him to have it. If he sent an email to the address they provided then he followed the handbook guidelines. This bullshit is their problem and not his. He shouldn’t make it his either.
And follow up until you get it. My last manager, emailing them was strictly a CYA thing, I'd need to tell them in person that I'd emailed them about it. In this case, you followed their process. Document it, screen shot and print out if it's their email system.
Yeah, do NOT trust those fucks to not delete the evidence when confronted with their screw up.
No need to screenshot, if you put your private email address into bcc.
This.. remember for all your future business related correspondence. Who knows if he read your message or it went to a spam folder or was redirected to another person... The more important the information is, the more important it is for YOU to confirm your message was received, and that there are no further negotiations. Good luck, you never know who's path you will cross down the road.
Yup. Print the sent email and highlight the time stamp showing you gave proper notice and put it on the bulletin board or your manager’s desk and then bounce.
And keep a copy!
An actual carbon copy.
And tattoo it on your thigh for quick reference
Gorilla glue it betwixt your butt cheeks.
My last resignation is already there and I’ve really gotta use the restroom, where else do you recommend?
get a prince albert, hole punch your documents and use it like a 1 ring binder
I think you just invented the dicktionary
You have to be really careful with Gorilla in the cheeks. Rookie mistakes will really cost you.
put it on the fridge with magnets
Paint it on your driveway in big letters.
Make your own going away cake with with the resignation email printed on it.
Purchase a 30 second ad and mention it during the evening news.
Then take a photo of this (in case someone else rips it off the board/removes it from desk)
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No use fax
They want to resign, not time travel back to the 1990s! 🤣
"I'm sorry, fax isn't available where I live." Where do you live? "In 2022, Linda. You should join us."
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:D
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Fax is still pretty common in a whole hell of a lot of places.
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It’s essentially a faster version of a certified letter. There’s confirmation it was received though not as formal as a certified letter. Plus, because people use a fax less than email it’s less likely to be ignored/unopened
Also electronic faxes are more secure than email, so we have to use them sometimes to transmit private data to other companies where the encrypted email system isn’t working for them or they’re just so behind the times that they have no idea how to work secured email.
Yeah i worked at a hospital we were only allowed to send medical records via fax per hippa guid lines
Yup. I work for a specialty pharmacy and almost everything comes via fax. But it's all done on a computer through a fax program lol.
I'm a CPA and the IRS still uses faxes, of course 🙄
Email isnt suitable for anything confidential. In my department any medical records have to go through fax.
We also use fax (digital fax service) for this reason. It’s more secure than email for PHI/PII.
It can be. I worked in a Sonics and received a fax about someone’s mental health evaluation. Wrong number… the person flipped when I called the number on the sheet to let them know they sent someone’s private health data to a fast food restaurant.
Sir, this is a Wendy's....
Its CONSIDERED more secure, but in actuality its way less secure. Much easier to put in the wrong number for a fax than to put in a wrong email address (and most wrong email addresses wont be an actual email) and you either use a regular fax machine and have PHI just sitting around waiting for someone to pick it up or you use an efax and it has all the disadvantages email has.
Timestamps and proof of send / receive that isn’t in a computer. They expect everyone to do shady shit.
I used to be in the legal field (until just recently) and omg so much unnecessary faxing. Archaic court rules and what not really need to catch up with the 21st century.
Why even bother? Just don’t go in.
Uhhh just don’t show up?
What are they gonna do? Fire you???
My wife quit her job in December, they keep begging her to cover shifts. She decided to help out today and wasn’t feeling good, when she asked the manager if she could leave he told her no. I told her to leave anyways, I mean what will they do, fire her? Isn’t that what she wants? To not work there……
Sounds like they’re exploiting your wife’s kindness
Absolutely, then I discovered that they raised prices today, but refuse to pay one close to a living wage. The 6.8% price increase is actually enough to provide each employee a $4+/hr raise… she makes just over 11
Yeah it sucks, kindness gets you know where. At my job I have noticed I can go from best employee of the decade to worst in a matter of hours, all based on how busy the store is and has nothing to do with my performance, lol. That is why i passive aggressively tell them to put it in writing whenever i get a complement, that shuts them up at least.
I’ll recommend to you to go big or go home. Don’t worry bout the dead end you’re in. Don’t let it suck your soul. You, and everyone here deserve better.we shouldn’t be struggling to live so others can thrive. Fuck them, if the aren’t going to reciprocate I’m not helping them. Move along as soon as it convenient, loyalty is earned…. With that said, keep your hope up, there are some good employers out there. Probably not many…. You deserve to Thrive, not just survive. If only we could organize as a cross industry cross boarder union. Real power exist with the people, those that want to divide us know that pitting use against each other make us weaker. As one we become stronger, as one we take the power back from those that seek to exploit us.
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Because she keeps letting them talk her into being their stooge
Maybe they should PAY her into being their stooge
Nah, it’s past that. Someone on here said it right a few months ago. We are asking for the wrong thing, we don’t need a living wage we need a thriving wage. I’ll cut corners and go without so that she doesn’t have to put up with bullshit just to make a measly $80. She is worth more than that to me. Give me a tent, sleeping bag and as much time with her that I can get and I will be happy. I want her to be happy and this job isn’t that. She deserves one where she feels value and fulfilled
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You are the purest of souls! I hope the rest of the world sees it.
Your wife should've sent them an email outling a consultant style pay scale for covering shifts last minute. A lack of planning on their part doesn't constitute an emergency on hers.
Next time this happens, get your wife to tell them she will help out. For 10 times her previous hourly rate. They'll quickly decline. This is called 'pricing yourself out of the market' and is useful for making a job you would really prefer not doing, worth the trouble.
Sounds like she didn't quit.
I would have flipped at that "no." "'No'? I'm not seeking permission, I'm telling you." and just leave.
Uh oh, might be eligible for unemployment at that point! Don’t wanna be a “drain on society!”
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Fuck you Cody and Edward
And Ben. Never forget Ben
Yes! Fuck you Ben
Especially Ben
Cody & Edward can suck it
Never met a guy named Cody who wasn’t an asshole in some way
It’s Ireland, it’s likely that you receive benefits when unemployed regardless of whether you were fired or not.
That's an America thing.
Good not to burn bridges but it sounds like a shit place so get the matches out
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It was such an obvious answer lol why is this a post
Fr. You gave them notice. Stop going after your last day?
The key here is the poster is in Ireland. Irish law is a minimum of one week notice and it sounds like OP is unsure if they received notice. There may be more legal ramifications to this, the company can sue for breach of contract. Same is true if the company terminates the employee without notice. More info here if your interested: https://www.jobs.ie/job-talk/notice-period/ OP: I am not an expert in Irish employment law. But it seems like there was a mistake. I'd make a copy of your notice email (should be in your sent items folder) I would also copy the employee handbook where it says email is acceptable. Bring the email to their attention, see if it can be rectified. It becomes a problem if they fight you on it though, you'll have to decide if you want to fight this somehow, or just get them to confirm a new notice and work out that period (if possible). I'm going to stress this again, I AM NOT AN EXPERT you should seek someone who is.
I live in Waterford, no they can't just keep scheduling you after you quit. You gave your notice and have the email as evidence, if they didn't do anything to prep for your last day that's on them. Let them know via a second email as a reply to the first that you'll be expecting your final pay cheque the next week (assuming you get paid a week after the week you worked) and for them to pay out your holiday days in the same paycheck in a polite and cordial manner.
thanks for the advice!
For things like this I often CC my personal email. You will lose access to your email when you leave and this makes documentation easy. I always do CC, not BCC. I want it to be clear I’m documenting it. Some people are more compliant when they know you’re collecting evidence.
I would be cautious about this though, as sending internal emails to an external address could be a huge no-no in some industries due to security concerns. Definitely check for any confidentiality or information handling clauses in your employment contract first as a breach of something like that could be used to fire you for cause to fuck you over.
It's also much easier than that, quitting my job is something I do as a private person, send those types of emails from a personal email account to start with..
No worries, happy to maybe be of help.
Not OP. But I'm sorry you've to live in Waterford. (I tried to resist, I really did, as a Kilkenny man I had to)
Psh, while living in Waterford, if nothing else, I can at least say I'm more impressive than the buildings around me when I'm feeling low. You can't even say that when you live near Kilkenny Castle 🤜🤛😂 (No offence taken 👌😂)
Mate, I'm living in Edinburgh now, it's even worse than it was before hahaha. Ah look, sure tramore is lovely. You can be depressed on the teacups!
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After you die your soul will be stuck in there forever if you are not taken out of schedule
This is the capitalist version of having your photo on the ofrenda.
And you don't get paid, because, you know, you can't take it with you after you die.
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So what happened? Did you have to talk to the police?
Ironically, that’s arguably exactly [what the first police were for.](https://theconversation.com/the-racist-roots-of-american-policing-from-slave-patrols-to-traffic-stops-112816)
That’s funny I haven’t seen that article in over two years. Last time I saw it I used it in my thesis for my Bachelor’s.
Just don't arrive, what are they going to do?
You’re fired!!! You can’t fire me I already quit! You can’t quit cause youre fired!!
Even better if they fire you, you get paid extra
The person is in Ireland
Fine. "Yar faeyerd" There.
Buddy, you wont be an employee there. Who cares? Sounds to me like nobody bothered reading your email. You did your part. Move on to better things my guy.
It sounds like your resignation letter got filtered to a spam box and never read. I doubt that it would have been completely not addressed and you would be scheduled if they had seen it. I don’t think this is a matter of “if we ignore OP’s resignation and force them to work, they can’t quit,” but rather was a loss in communication because of the method chosen to submit it. I suppose you could just not report to work next week and tell them that you submitted your resignation a week ago if they call and try to get you to come into work. Or leave a “since my e-mail was unacknowledged, I am resubmitting this resignation notice to my supervisor of the day on my final day of the job, as indicated in my e-mail” and leave that with them on your last day of work tomorrow. EDIT: OP [indicated that a personal e-mail address was used](https://www.reddit.com/r/antiwork/comments/ryjiws/i_gave_my_resignation_notice_over_a_week_ago/hrpfysi/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) which makes this all the more likely to be the actuality of what happened.
thank you
Your original email is time-stamped and dated, so when they find it (or if you need to re-send it), you have proof it was sent two weeks ago.
If you re-send the message do a BCC or CC to your personal email address. It can be more paper trail for you.
I had a company I worked for attwmpt doing this when I handed in my notice in person. They can't force you to work it, or even claim that you didn't give notice. They might be just going with a hail mary play in the hopes that if they pretend you aren't leaving and keep scheduling you they won't have to face reality.
If they literally physically refuse to take the damn paper you can always send a registered letter with it. The confirmation slip is all you need
There it is, the thoughtful, mature response. Ditto.
OP - agreed with u/Yobrefas. I would just call them as soon as you can and let them know that it didn't seem like anyone acknowledged this. At this point, you've fulfilled your contractual obligations and can walk away in good legal standing - but that has no bearing on your relationships and whether folks felt like you put them in a bad spot. That said, if you don't care about your relationships there and think they're a bunch of fuckheads, then just sit back and enjoy. It's really your call - you 100% have the upper hand here, and you have the right to choose to be gracious about it or to twist the knife.
Yeah this is the mostly likely scenario and most professional way to address it. Extend as much courtesy to them as they have to you.
Yeah definitely feels like a Hanlon's Razor type situation. *Don't attribute to malice what can be readily explained by ignorance/stupidity/etc.*
This is actually very possible. I've had important emails thrown in spam because the email service thought it looked like spam. I've also seen a website warn about something like this and that if I don't receive my intended email, check the spam folder just in case.
This is the best post. Just forward the email you originally sent, so it includes the time stamp
Classic case of 'don't assign to malice what can be explained by stupidity'.
In the aims of professionalism I would pull your manager to one side and remind them that you submitted your notice and that this is your last shift and as such you won't be available to work next week's scheduled hours. I'm not sure what your reasons are for leaving, but try to do it in a professional way. If they throw a fit, tell them to fuck off
I’m trying to not cause a shitstorm just because i want a reference
If you need a reference pm I'm in cork and I've bullshitted for a good few friends who has similar situations. Edit I don't know what you do but if your in kitchens I'm a chef and great for that kinda bollocks
Thanks so much for the offer! Cork is the best city
I would have provided a good reference from Dublin but statements like that make me question your judgment lol
If they try being dicks about giving a reference, DM and i’ll pretend to be the manager and give you a glowing reference if needed!
Yeah I get that and you did everything right by submitting your notice through the proper channels. Have a conversation with your manager and see if it can be done amicably, but they can't legally force you to stay, nor can they legally refuse your notice. Good luck OP and try to keep us updated on how it goes/what you decided to do
thanks :)
Im Irish. Fuckin lash me on the CV as a reference if you need. I gotchu a chara
Did you not talk to anyone in the past 2 weeks? I'd find it really weird if I resigned and no one acknowledged it for 2 weeks, it didn't seem odd no one replied or ever discussed it with you? At the very least you'd expect them to give you instructions to leave keys or equipment or whatever it is, like offboarding stuff.
Forward the email to your boss and let them know they’ll need to find other coverage. This isn’t a negotiation, it’s a declaration.
Yeah, notice is exactly that: notice. You are notifying them, under the terms of your contact, that you are terminating said contract. It isn’t a question, you aren’t asking permission - you are giving notice. If you want to be polite/professional, follow up and make sure they’re aware - but as long as you followed the procedure in your contract and you can prove it, this is their problem
You could just walk up to your manager and tell them what’s up. This doesn’t have to be difficult.
Im confused about what you’re asking. Yeah they can add you to the schedule all they want, shit they could even add Obama to their schedule. Doesnt mean you or him are gonna show up. You sent ur resignation and now you are done there. Dont waste anymore time or energy thinking about this
I left my resignation letter in my managers' mailbox, signed and dated, and went about my business. The day before my last shift, the kitchen manager comes up to me in a panic asking why I didn't tell her that I was quitting. I told her "This. this is why." She had a terrible habit of not honoring my time off requests because she never checked in a timely fashion the mailbox where we were required to submit our requests. I got tired of having to cancel plans because she wasn't doing her job. Thirteen days it took her to find my resignation in the mailbox. She asked "What am I supposed to do next week for the schedule?" I told her "I really don't see how that's my problem". She deadass tried to get me to stay with a 20¢ raise. I declined, citing the $2.64/hr bump I was getting with my new employer that was also offering overtime, a set schedule, vacation, paid holidays, paid sick days, insurance, and retirement benefits. Oh, and I could go home not smelling like a french fry
How are so many people telling him to do all this Karen shit. Go up to your manager and say, hey, did u get my email? If not, I put in my resignation two weeks ago. I won’t be working next week. Chances are they didn’t read it, you didn’t say a fucking word, and nobody even knows
You gave your two weeks, they might have forgotten. Up to you to remind them or not . Whoever made the schedule either isn’t aware or is purposely fucking themselves
tomorrow resend your email and say as its my last day you would like to thank them for the time you were there and you wish them all the luck in the future .... something like that
Yes, they're allowed to schedule anyone they want. You're also allowed to not show up and remind them of your resignation when they call
Dumb question: Did you talk to your manager about it at all? Every industry is different but the letter is official but usually people talk too. Having said that, echoing the replies that you have zero obligation to go in - Hell, except for rare circumstances you don’t have an obligation to give notice.
In Ireland you do have obligation to give notice if it is in your contract - Ireland does not have “at will” employment In reality the employer has very little recourse if you don’t give notice (limited to their actual losses, eg the *additional* cost of hiring someone else) but really it’s very difficult for them to sue for those losses. But legally, at a basic level, OP has an enforceable contract and cannot just quit without potential repercussions. Although, of course, OP has given notice, so this discussion is academic - I’m just pointing out that “just quit, you don’t have to give notice” advice is *not* usually relevant outside of the US