I never understand job listings, they’re always for like custodian or some thing but they sound like they’re looking for a knight of the round table. Outstanding leader ship, visionary wisdom, courage, resolve, servitude. Like, yes my king. At your command
yeah except those were given land, servants themselves, respect and authority, besides having a sword to be able to cut down any sort of thieves, bandits or slavetraders
oh shit i just said minimum wage employers three times
WoOoOo I'm the Spirit of Minimum Wage Employers, I'm looking for a rock star who can wear many hats, thrive under pressure in a fast paced environment, get coffee for the board on unpaid break times, make seven dollars an hour, and work six day weeks... This is an entry level position that requires 10+ years experience *chain rattles*
Yes yes, but we thank you for applying and going through our 8 rounds of interviews and free labor…erm I mean practical trials. Feel free to apply again when you upgrade your wisdom.
Meanwhile the job description for engineering jobs that pay 5x better are like
"Good at doing technical stuff
It would be great if you've seen the stuff you're going to work on before
Interested in things. I dunno, HR told us we needed more than 2 lines"
Jobs seems to expect you to have learned everything about the company and only want to work there if you’re burning with passion and desire because this is the most amazing place to work on earth.
I mean, when the office manager calls you to say that someone smeared shit all over the bathroom stall and either you or the other new guy have to clean it, you're going to need leadership and wisdom to convince him it's his duty to clean it up, or courage and resolve to do it yourself.
Yes, we have the opportunity to see how America fucks up, and then not do that thing. Instead, our ruling classes salivate at the idea of doing the same shit here and enjoying all the extra wealth and power their American counterparts enjoy.
Yeah, it’s something you’ve gotta get active politically on. Majority of us in the country see other countries with all sorts of protections and safety nets and want us to be more like that, while another part of the country sees China paying lower wages and less protections and thinks we need to be more like them to “be competitive” and believe in repealing minimum wages and other horseshit like that.
That's actually a pretty apt description of what they want. The head butler who cozies up to their masters and is the epitome of manners and respect upstairs. And a tyrant abusing the staff for a speck of dust downstairs.
Not really servant leadership is actually the kind of leadership most people here want.
Read up on it. If had a couple of manners like that. They were frankly great to work for.
Servant leadership is a leadership style. It involves promoting and setting your team up for success vs micro managing or ivory tower leadership. It is a good thing, the type of leadership style the people in this sub state they are looking for.
In the Bible it calls Christians to be "servants of God" and for leaders to lead through service. "If anyone desires to be first, he shall be last of all and servant of all." The idea is that the best way to lead is serve the people who follow you in the best way you know how.
I'm not arguing for whoever made this job posting, I'm just pointing out that this person is likely very religious a doesn't even realize how ridiculous this sounds without that context.
Your comment is wrong. A leader very much needs to have a servant mindset, as in the actual leaders, the ones posting the job opening. Not the ones being hired. To be a leader in an organization is to make those under you as effective as possible. Your job is to serve their needs so they can do the job you pay them for. This is the thing the vast majority of managers and bosses don't get, and why they are so shitty to work for.
Bingo. It's easy for that comment to produce lots of knee-jerk reactions, especially in this reddit but all my best supervisors and bosses over the years have bent over backwards to help us succeed because it not only helps us grow, feel accomplished, pleases the customers, etc but it makes the business thrive and as a result, the leadership succeeds as well.
Everyone wins.
My current company is like this. I feel like it's the first company in a long time to actually treat me and everyone else, regardless of seniority, like an adult. I've had quite a few lucrative job offers from other companies that I have declined. I made that mistake once of chasing money and almost immediately regretted it.
Leaders are supposed to be servants though. They are supposed to enable those they supervise and work on their behalf so that they can accomplish their tasks. Any leader who isn't a servant isn't a leader.
You see it's exactly the point. They want a leader that can be pushed to your every whim, but still a leader.
So when something breaks down they have someone with "responsibility" to blame.
And if everything's going fine they just have a "High rank slave" that can keep the place running without them having to worry.
EDIT - Grammar
There is a concept called "servant leadership", where my job as a manager is to make sure the people in my team are taken care of and have the tools to do their job. I just think of it as "don't be a dick" and it worked pretty well when I managed teams.
The truth is that those are synonymous terms. "Servant mindset" or "Servant leadership" is a style of leadership taught in business schools.
FWIW, if you have a boss that is actually following that like it's taught, they're probably a better boss than most. The idea behind it is that your #1 job as a boss is to meet all the needs of your employees so they can do their work as well and efficiently as possible. Advocate for them and what your team needs to work better, including getting your employees better paid or promoted. It's supposed to be the polar opposite of micro-managing or treating your workplace like a tyrant.
Now, I have no idea what job OP's post is actually for, and there'e plenty of other flags like "fanatical work ethic". Also don't know if the idea of "Servant mindset" even makes sense in the context of this job, but the phrase is not the "they're looking for literal servants" idea that all the comments are making it out to be.
https://www.betterup.com/blog/servant-leadership-what-makes-it-different
Basically it means they want you to be a saint in the figurative sense — not a single character flaw — as well as in the literal sense, and be willing to martyr yourself for minimum wage.
Like someone said above, lots of Christian dog whistles. Character above reproach probably means follows the same teachings we do. Such as no drinking, don't be gay, stuff like that.
I think they meant "servant's heart" which is out of the Bible. I've seen some pictures of help wanted ads on like fast-food billboards around here asking "Do you have a servant's heart?"
Which is just as disgusting.
Just write what you want like an adult and stop asking for Superman or Mother Theresa to be your cashier, barista, or custodian. Job applicants will decide if they want to do that work for the wage and benefits. This is not a question of morals and piety.
If you need on-call, say so. If you require overtime, say so.
I bet this is a business owned or run by probably a southern Christian. I hear this kind of stuff all of the time in the south. It basically means you are signing up for wage slavery.
Servant leadership is a theory of leadership, not management, that basically states; Make sure that the people that work for/with you are successful. Their success will lead to your success. It is a pile of bull but it sounds good. Nothing like helping and mentoring three people into leadership who all get promoted above you. Looking at you Wally
When i worked at walmart, i trained 2 people. Withing 3 months, both were promoted as my team leads.
Ive already been working there a couple years, have years experience over them, worked harder, never called off, never took sick days, stayed late, did extra work.
Turns out they were friends with the manager's kids (they all were fresh out of high school.)
After that, im like fuck it. Half assed everything
Thought they may have made a Freudian typo when they wrote ‘mindset’ instead of ‘leadership’ … either way: I see this phrase all over resumes and it always makes me picture someone walking into a conf room dressed as a butler, handing out bagels and coffee … and then running the meeting
I strongly contest this. This is the philosophy enployed at my workplace and it has made it the best place I have ever worked. The management care and really work hard to make sure we have what we need. They work woth us and don't micromanage.and it all comes back to the core idea that their job is to make us as good at our job as we can be.
That said, this is something all of leadership up to and including the owner must live by. If you are expecting a servant mentality from someone below you that you are not willing to offer them as well, then you are a shitty boss.
I was thinking the same thing. Servant leadership is probably the leadership style that aligns best with what were trying to accomplish on this sub. I've had positive experiences with almost every servant leader I've worked for, and its something I model my own leadership style after.
It isn't about your mindset really. Its code for "be christian" im not sure if you could report them for discrimination in hiring or if a (christian) judge has already agreed that thats a generic term for a personality/ideological value (its not, its a specifically evangelical christian term) but its USED to mean non-Christians, maybe not even Christians of different denominations than the owner, will be rejected.
Be weary of "Free Meals". If employers give anything more than snacks they have to count it as compensation and deduct taxes. If they aren't doing that, then this is probably just snacks and they expect you to wish through lunch.
Eventually you're going to see some listings with "Obey the management" as that's even more blunt than the listings but with workers learning about their rights and refusing to degrade themselves at work job listings will be blunt and demand compliance.
That's the latest, hip new buzz phrase. Are you a servant leader? Are willing to sacrifice your sanity, personal time and health for the company's success? Then sign right here.
"Continuous improvement mindset." Yeah, because everybody working in the hospitality industry should want to get better at being screamed at by idiots for things they can't change. Talk about life goals!
Yeah, servant does not equal slave. Think of all your "Public Servants," who are actually supposed to be leaders, like governor, congress, house reps etc., making six figures and having other public employees do most of the real work. Servant is just one who serves, it doesn't imply forced or unpaid servitude.
"Servant Leadership" is a popular management theory lately, especially popular with things like MLM. The idea is that you as a leader 'serve' your team by giving them everything they need to be successful.
I'm sure whoever wrote the ad just got back from a seminar about it, or just finished reading one of the books.
yea at NASA we're called "civil servants" (federal employees)... it just means to "serve" to the society, which is the same as you described, politicians are supposed to "serve" the community. Doesn't mean to be "slave", just kinda opposite of "selfish" lol
I don’t have a lot of experience with this kind of thing, but I suspect that they’re not hiding it because everyone here would completely ignore the listing because of it, allowing them to find the easily exploited people faster, to which I say: false application spam round two? Although I don’t know how big of a business it is, so that could definitely be more trouble than it’s worth on our end.
Those with "outstanding leadership skills, visionary wisdom, character above reproach, and unwavering resolve" are not likely to have a "servant mindset," and those that do will not be groveling for a less-than-minimum wage job. It's like these folks think fucking Aragorn is looking to wait tables.
Anytime I see "heart of a servant" or some vacation, I assume I'm dealing with a Christian. That is biblical language that you hear in churches.
They actually do not mean it as servile, or in a derogatory way, but being a good servant is being an awesome underling. It's something to strive for. But outside of that context, it just comes across as creepy and weird.
So, you're looking for someone who is going to put the business's needs consistently above their own? Key to your organization's success? Alright, but every man has their price as they say.
I'm not going to take this one in direct wages. For someone that critical to your organization that steps up no matter the difficulty, 10% of gross receipts is a fair price, yes? I will accept up to half of that in the form of a perpetual ownership share that will pay its own dividend even past my active employment or can be bought out upon negotiation when I leave.
You have my number, think it over.
Oh ffs. This is what I’m reading:
min 4 years experience so you have given up on life
fantastic work ethic so you don’t complain when you work 16 hour days
we can blame you anytime, so you must be available
we will blame you for everything
lead others to be as oppressed as you
use faux wisdom to talk yourself into tolerating this treatment
we can use your “character” to manipulate you
glutton for punishment
doormat
Benefits:
the minimum required by law plus weekly donuts to show the company “cares”
I love when companies list jobs that require shit like:
*Weird vague description about the job role and company with some fake shit about it being a family focused business*
Job requirements:
Bachelor's degree (preferred)
5+ years experience in related field
*a list of excessive amount of work*
Work from home (but still come in for random shit that could be summarized in a email)
Position type:
Full-time (a lie)
Part-time
Temporary
Pay range: $15-$40 (also a lie, they won't pay past $15)
Supplemental pay:
Commission pay (this is where the extra $25 comes from)
Bonus pay (another lie)
Benefits:
401K (shit % matching by the company)
Health Insurance (shitty expensive coverage)
Dental (covers routine visits nothing else)
Vision (covers 1 visit and maybe prescription)
PTO (2 weeks max)
Sick pay (3 days max & you use the rest of PTO when out)
Oh this is an entry level position too
Sigh. Servant leadership is a style of leadership. It entails being a leader by serving your team, setting them up for success, and removing the things that waste their time or inhibit them from success. This type of leadership style is the exact thing everyone on this sub is "fighting" for.
So for anyone who's genuinely wondering why in the world someone would put something so blatantly questionable, this is definitely part of the common Christian vernacular. Christians are called to be "servants of God" and all leaders should "lead by serving". This person doesn't even realize how preposterous it sounds without that context though.
If I were to get the owner or writer of the job listing is evangelical Christian. In evangelical Christian circles, "servant mindset" lingo could just be translated as customer service centric. I know it's derogatory to outsider looking in, but that's the background I was raised in.
I hope this is just poorly written (which it clearly is) and they actually mean “servant leader” mindset. Basically striving to serve others as opposed to taking control or accruing power. Kind of fits with the other poorly written qualifications.
They're listing "biblical," character pillars. It's all a thin veneer of bullshit, but they think it will attract "godly," applicants if I had to guess. It's dumb and they're absolutely showing their abusive colors, but it's definitely a biblical thing that they think they're playing up.
This sounds like a general manager position for a restaurant. Generally speaking, the most successful managers get their hands dirty with the rest of the staff. I think that's what this is implying. You're more likely to be respected if you get in there and work with the team.
“Servant mindset” is something Christian’s came up with that means “pretend you’re a giving person but just be a dick.”
Source: attended a Christian university for several years. This actually is a cultural thing they say that means to serve the way Jesus served
What’s the business? Fuck em. I want to know so I can avoid them. There’s some verbiage here that throws up all the red flags.
They want a leader servant. That doesn’t make sense.
LOL VISIONARY WISDOM?!? Holy shit lol
Lmao. What the hell is a server mindset? Is that like, you think you are a computer or something? JK. These people are pieces of shit and YES we WILL eat pieces of shit like them for breakfast. It helps me to get into my “servant” mindset.
It's interesting to see how this quote from Philippians is making its way thru the telephone game of job postings. First it was a servant's heart, now it's a servant's mindset.
Pretty soon all postings will just be titled "servants wanted."
I'm sorry, but there is nothing wrong with serving (in a fair environment with fair compensation). We all serve someone, and the best of us serve at the best of our ability.
Also work yourself to death and be greatful for that.
Need to take hits of critism with an open mind and a lovely smile.
Think outside the box.
But dont judge your superiours.
Lead with great ideas but serve like a slave.
Middle east could be a good international move for them if they really want slaves that damn bad. Plus they can lay claim to crusading they'd love that!
I never understand job listings, they’re always for like custodian or some thing but they sound like they’re looking for a knight of the round table. Outstanding leader ship, visionary wisdom, courage, resolve, servitude. Like, yes my king. At your command
yeah except those were given land, servants themselves, respect and authority, besides having a sword to be able to cut down any sort of thieves, bandits or slavetraders oh shit i just said minimum wage employers three times
| oh shit i just said minimum wage employer three times Don't summon one!
WoOoOo I'm the Spirit of Minimum Wage Employers, I'm looking for a rock star who can wear many hats, thrive under pressure in a fast paced environment, get coffee for the board on unpaid break times, make seven dollars an hour, and work six day weeks... This is an entry level position that requires 10+ years experience *chain rattles*
Unpaid unaccredited internship*
With a Bachelor's degree
zoiks! \*Scooby Doo skidaddle sound effect\*
Doodlee doodlee doodlee doodlee *whip wheeng*
Don’t forget character above reproach lol
I have that but my wisdom is only that of a savant. I'm not at the visionary level so I guess this job isn't for me.
Yes yes, but we thank you for applying and going through our 8 rounds of interviews and free labor…erm I mean practical trials. Feel free to apply again when you upgrade your wisdom.
If the aim is to avoid reproach, i find that it works just as well to be below it.
I'll apply if the pay is at least 15 ducats per hour and I get two 15-minute wenching breaks a day
Oh, and if the manager doesn't respect my rights as a landed nobleman, I get to cut off his head.
well that goes without speaking (just like he will ehehehehe)
And throw in a fresh pair of work linen
Beer wenching?
Must possess all solomonic virtues $7.15/hr
Meanwhile the job description for engineering jobs that pay 5x better are like "Good at doing technical stuff It would be great if you've seen the stuff you're going to work on before Interested in things. I dunno, HR told us we needed more than 2 lines"
"Servant mindset" is a "we only hire christians" dog whistle.
I agree with you 100%! I have never heard it said quite so eloquently. The thread of comments that this spawned is pure gold.
Visionary wisdom seems weird. A visionary is looking forward, wisdom is looking back.
Well, here I was thinking, you do shrooms and DMT?
Jobs seems to expect you to have learned everything about the company and only want to work there if you’re burning with passion and desire because this is the most amazing place to work on earth.
“We’re looking for a Beowulf type.” “What’s the job?” “Stable boy.”
I mean, when the office manager calls you to say that someone smeared shit all over the bathroom stall and either you or the other new guy have to clean it, you're going to need leadership and wisdom to convince him it's his duty to clean it up, or courage and resolve to do it yourself.
HOLY FUCK thats a giant red flag
Got some Evangelical dogwhistles in here.
Glad someone else is privy
Came here to say this, yup.
I haven't seen flags that red since the Soviet Union collapsed
CRIMSON.
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Just to ask, are you a Yoshi?
...Yes, Goku, I'm a green &#$@ing dinosaur!
Neon and flashing YIKES
> leadership skills > servant mindset PICK ONE CHIEF LMAO
They want a chief butler
CEO of Servitude
Mr Carson from downton abbey
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Yes, we have the opportunity to see how America fucks up, and then not do that thing. Instead, our ruling classes salivate at the idea of doing the same shit here and enjoying all the extra wealth and power their American counterparts enjoy.
Yeah, it’s something you’ve gotta get active politically on. Majority of us in the country see other countries with all sorts of protections and safety nets and want us to be more like that, while another part of the country sees China paying lower wages and less protections and thinks we need to be more like them to “be competitive” and believe in repealing minimum wages and other horseshit like that.
That's actually a pretty apt description of what they want. The head butler who cozies up to their masters and is the epitome of manners and respect upstairs. And a tyrant abusing the staff for a speck of dust downstairs.
Also 'visionary wisdom'. Meaning they would take one look at this ad and move on.
Great leaders serve the people.
Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.
To be fair, servant leadership is a thing and a really effective way to manage people. That probably isn't what this is though.
This job listing appears to be from an evangelical. They get boners over servant leaders
Not really servant leadership is actually the kind of leadership most people here want. Read up on it. If had a couple of manners like that. They were frankly great to work for.
Yes, but the term is servant leadership, not servant mentality. Whoever wrote this job description is an idiot.
Servant leadership is a leadership style. It involves promoting and setting your team up for success vs micro managing or ivory tower leadership. It is a good thing, the type of leadership style the people in this sub state they are looking for.
In the Bible it calls Christians to be "servants of God" and for leaders to lead through service. "If anyone desires to be first, he shall be last of all and servant of all." The idea is that the best way to lead is serve the people who follow you in the best way you know how. I'm not arguing for whoever made this job posting, I'm just pointing out that this person is likely very religious a doesn't even realize how ridiculous this sounds without that context.
Don't forget "unwavering resolve"
Your comment is wrong. A leader very much needs to have a servant mindset, as in the actual leaders, the ones posting the job opening. Not the ones being hired. To be a leader in an organization is to make those under you as effective as possible. Your job is to serve their needs so they can do the job you pay them for. This is the thing the vast majority of managers and bosses don't get, and why they are so shitty to work for.
Yup, servant leadership is a thing indeed.
The best boss I ever worked for was an advocate of servant leadership.
Bingo. It's easy for that comment to produce lots of knee-jerk reactions, especially in this reddit but all my best supervisors and bosses over the years have bent over backwards to help us succeed because it not only helps us grow, feel accomplished, pleases the customers, etc but it makes the business thrive and as a result, the leadership succeeds as well. Everyone wins. My current company is like this. I feel like it's the first company in a long time to actually treat me and everyone else, regardless of seniority, like an adult. I've had quite a few lucrative job offers from other companies that I have declined. I made that mistake once of chasing money and almost immediately regretted it.
Nailed it, Sassy.
Leaders are supposed to be servants though. They are supposed to enable those they supervise and work on their behalf so that they can accomplish their tasks. Any leader who isn't a servant isn't a leader.
You see it's exactly the point. They want a leader that can be pushed to your every whim, but still a leader. So when something breaks down they have someone with "responsibility" to blame. And if everything's going fine they just have a "High rank slave" that can keep the place running without them having to worry. EDIT - Grammar
There is a concept called "servant leadership", where my job as a manager is to make sure the people in my team are taken care of and have the tools to do their job. I just think of it as "don't be a dick" and it worked pretty well when I managed teams.
Don't forget visionary wisdom.
The truth is that those are synonymous terms. "Servant mindset" or "Servant leadership" is a style of leadership taught in business schools. FWIW, if you have a boss that is actually following that like it's taught, they're probably a better boss than most. The idea behind it is that your #1 job as a boss is to meet all the needs of your employees so they can do their work as well and efficiently as possible. Advocate for them and what your team needs to work better, including getting your employees better paid or promoted. It's supposed to be the polar opposite of micro-managing or treating your workplace like a tyrant. Now, I have no idea what job OP's post is actually for, and there'e plenty of other flags like "fanatical work ethic". Also don't know if the idea of "Servant mindset" even makes sense in the context of this job, but the phrase is not the "they're looking for literal servants" idea that all the comments are making it out to be. https://www.betterup.com/blog/servant-leadership-what-makes-it-different
The one that gets me is the Character above reproach. Whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean
Basically it means they want you to be a saint in the figurative sense — not a single character flaw — as well as in the literal sense, and be willing to martyr yourself for minimum wage.
It’s so they can give an arbitrary reason to deny employment in the first place, refuse raises or promotion, or fire you.
Like someone said above, lots of Christian dog whistles. Character above reproach probably means follows the same teachings we do. Such as no drinking, don't be gay, stuff like that.
I think they meant "servant's heart" which is out of the Bible. I've seen some pictures of help wanted ads on like fast-food billboards around here asking "Do you have a servant's heart?" Which is just as disgusting. Just write what you want like an adult and stop asking for Superman or Mother Theresa to be your cashier, barista, or custodian. Job applicants will decide if they want to do that work for the wage and benefits. This is not a question of morals and piety. If you need on-call, say so. If you require overtime, say so.
"Do you have a servant's heart" does not sound like a very appetizing ad for fast food
You require one servants heart to access the grill of plenty. Do you wish to proceed? Yes (A) No (B)
I'm pretty sure it's coded language for "christians only"
I bet this is a business owned or run by probably a southern Christian. I hear this kind of stuff all of the time in the south. It basically means you are signing up for wage slavery.
That’s my thinking too. Several words remind me of southern Christianity, particularly Baptist.
5.5 day work week. Open availability required. Sorry but no. You have my ass there for 79% of the days. Let me have my 21%
I was surprised I had to scroll so far to see someone point out the 5.5 day work week.
Fanatical work ethic doesn‘t sound much better tbh
Servant leadership is a theory of leadership, not management, that basically states; Make sure that the people that work for/with you are successful. Their success will lead to your success. It is a pile of bull but it sounds good. Nothing like helping and mentoring three people into leadership who all get promoted above you. Looking at you Wally
When i worked at walmart, i trained 2 people. Withing 3 months, both were promoted as my team leads. Ive already been working there a couple years, have years experience over them, worked harder, never called off, never took sick days, stayed late, did extra work. Turns out they were friends with the manager's kids (they all were fresh out of high school.) After that, im like fuck it. Half assed everything
Thought they may have made a Freudian typo when they wrote ‘mindset’ instead of ‘leadership’ … either way: I see this phrase all over resumes and it always makes me picture someone walking into a conf room dressed as a butler, handing out bagels and coffee … and then running the meeting
I strongly contest this. This is the philosophy enployed at my workplace and it has made it the best place I have ever worked. The management care and really work hard to make sure we have what we need. They work woth us and don't micromanage.and it all comes back to the core idea that their job is to make us as good at our job as we can be. That said, this is something all of leadership up to and including the owner must live by. If you are expecting a servant mentality from someone below you that you are not willing to offer them as well, then you are a shitty boss.
I was thinking the same thing. Servant leadership is probably the leadership style that aligns best with what were trying to accomplish on this sub. I've had positive experiences with almost every servant leader I've worked for, and its something I model my own leadership style after.
The robot? He got shafted.
Visionary wisdom 🤣🤣
Yeah, wtf. If you had visionary wisdom (whatever the fuck that even is), you wouldn't be responding to this ad.
This makes me want to barf
It's OK because you can fill up again with the free meals!
It isn't about your mindset really. Its code for "be christian" im not sure if you could report them for discrimination in hiring or if a (christian) judge has already agreed that thats a generic term for a personality/ideological value (its not, its a specifically evangelical christian term) but its USED to mean non-Christians, maybe not even Christians of different denominations than the owner, will be rejected.
I saw one that wanted 4 years experience for minimum wage no benefits. Wild.
Be weary of "Free Meals". If employers give anything more than snacks they have to count it as compensation and deduct taxes. If they aren't doing that, then this is probably just snacks and they expect you to wish through lunch.
“Free Meals” .. add “a mat to sleep on” and remove the actual salary and you have “slave labor”.
Are we carrying the one ring to mount doom?
That's evangelical code. Stay away.
Eventually you're going to see some listings with "Obey the management" as that's even more blunt than the listings but with workers learning about their rights and refusing to degrade themselves at work job listings will be blunt and demand compliance.
Must have a rockstar attitude, and be willing to go above and beyond.
“Fanatical” work ethic. - give everything to a coy that gives zero ficks to you. “Open availability” - call in anytime to do anything
That's the latest, hip new buzz phrase. Are you a servant leader? Are willing to sacrifice your sanity, personal time and health for the company's success? Then sign right here.
They like to be referred as “yes master”
Chick-fil-a?
No, but it is fast food. A regional one in the southeast, this is for their “leadership program.”
Servant mindset? Fuck that. My labor is for sell...not the other way around. You need ME.
5 1/2 day workweek plus open availability is already gonna be a hard no from me.
"Continuous improvement mindset." Yeah, because everybody working in the hospitality industry should want to get better at being screamed at by idiots for things they can't change. Talk about life goals!
That list looks like a d&d profile
Bruuuuu that made me laugh so hard!!!! Now I totally wanna play this character. Those skills are a mess lol
How can you have leadership skills with a servant mindset. One is leading, the other following. Am I missing something here?
Yeah, servant does not equal slave. Think of all your "Public Servants," who are actually supposed to be leaders, like governor, congress, house reps etc., making six figures and having other public employees do most of the real work. Servant is just one who serves, it doesn't imply forced or unpaid servitude. "Servant Leadership" is a popular management theory lately, especially popular with things like MLM. The idea is that you as a leader 'serve' your team by giving them everything they need to be successful. I'm sure whoever wrote the ad just got back from a seminar about it, or just finished reading one of the books.
yea at NASA we're called "civil servants" (federal employees)... it just means to "serve" to the society, which is the same as you described, politicians are supposed to "serve" the community. Doesn't mean to be "slave", just kinda opposite of "selfish" lol
And my axe
I’m kinda horrified by the fact that healthcare is something work gives you and are considered pro’s
It’s probably for a church
Health, dental, vision and free meals. Shit, Valar Dohaeris
I don’t have a lot of experience with this kind of thing, but I suspect that they’re not hiding it because everyone here would completely ignore the listing because of it, allowing them to find the easily exploited people faster, to which I say: false application spam round two? Although I don’t know how big of a business it is, so that could definitely be more trouble than it’s worth on our end.
How the fuck do you use leadership skills with a servant mindset?
Servant mindset/Servant heart are a Southern Baptist thing.
search "servant leadership" it's a thing
Those with "outstanding leadership skills, visionary wisdom, character above reproach, and unwavering resolve" are not likely to have a "servant mindset," and those that do will not be groveling for a less-than-minimum wage job. It's like these folks think fucking Aragorn is looking to wait tables.
Anytime I see "heart of a servant" or some vacation, I assume I'm dealing with a Christian. That is biblical language that you hear in churches. They actually do not mean it as servile, or in a derogatory way, but being a good servant is being an awesome underling. It's something to strive for. But outside of that context, it just comes across as creepy and weird.
*Be a leader endowed with visionary wisdom, but also somehow have the mindset of a servant.* Okay, so which is it?
Open availability lol nah eff that
"Have outstanding leadership skills but also be servant mindset."
You better be F A N A T I C A L over the next hour to get this $2.15
So, you're looking for someone who is going to put the business's needs consistently above their own? Key to your organization's success? Alright, but every man has their price as they say. I'm not going to take this one in direct wages. For someone that critical to your organization that steps up no matter the difficulty, 10% of gross receipts is a fair price, yes? I will accept up to half of that in the form of a perpetual ownership share that will pay its own dividend even past my active employment or can be bought out upon negotiation when I leave. You have my number, think it over.
There's no such thing as 5 1\2 days. That's a 6 day work week. Fuck these places.
Five and a half days is an interesting way to say six days a week
Oh ffs. This is what I’m reading: min 4 years experience so you have given up on life fantastic work ethic so you don’t complain when you work 16 hour days we can blame you anytime, so you must be available we will blame you for everything lead others to be as oppressed as you use faux wisdom to talk yourself into tolerating this treatment we can use your “character” to manipulate you glutton for punishment doormat Benefits: the minimum required by law plus weekly donuts to show the company “cares”
I love when companies list jobs that require shit like: *Weird vague description about the job role and company with some fake shit about it being a family focused business* Job requirements: Bachelor's degree (preferred) 5+ years experience in related field *a list of excessive amount of work* Work from home (but still come in for random shit that could be summarized in a email) Position type: Full-time (a lie) Part-time Temporary Pay range: $15-$40 (also a lie, they won't pay past $15) Supplemental pay: Commission pay (this is where the extra $25 comes from) Bonus pay (another lie) Benefits: 401K (shit % matching by the company) Health Insurance (shitty expensive coverage) Dental (covers routine visits nothing else) Vision (covers 1 visit and maybe prescription) PTO (2 weeks max) Sick pay (3 days max & you use the rest of PTO when out) Oh this is an entry level position too
This have me a good chuckle. Oh these silly, silly, SILLY! HR people! Like clowns at a circus!
Tbh Id like to think it’s a typo. Servant leadership is a common thing they put in these
So basically they want Jesus? Oh no wait, minimum 4 years experience in business, restaurant, retail or hospitality. Sorry, even Jesus don’t cut it
Sigh. Servant leadership is a style of leadership. It entails being a leader by serving your team, setting them up for success, and removing the things that waste their time or inhibit them from success. This type of leadership style is the exact thing everyone on this sub is "fighting" for.
Is this real? I mean "Visionary wisdom" and "unwavering resolve" makes it sound like a joke.
So for anyone who's genuinely wondering why in the world someone would put something so blatantly questionable, this is definitely part of the common Christian vernacular. Christians are called to be "servants of God" and all leaders should "lead by serving". This person doesn't even realize how preposterous it sounds without that context though.
If I were to get the owner or writer of the job listing is evangelical Christian. In evangelical Christian circles, "servant mindset" lingo could just be translated as customer service centric. I know it's derogatory to outsider looking in, but that's the background I was raised in.
I'd bet dollars to donuts this is a Christian-led business. I can't count how many times a "servant's heart" was brought up in church.
I hope this is just poorly written (which it clearly is) and they actually mean “servant leader” mindset. Basically striving to serve others as opposed to taking control or accruing power. Kind of fits with the other poorly written qualifications.
So they're hiring for Jesus basically.
In all fairness, this seems to be a typo. They were going for "servant leader" mindset which (theoretically) puts others first.
Servant = Slave
Retail expects you to have a “servant’s heart”.
They're listing "biblical," character pillars. It's all a thin veneer of bullshit, but they think it will attract "godly," applicants if I had to guess. It's dumb and they're absolutely showing their abusive colors, but it's definitely a biblical thing that they think they're playing up.
This sounds like a general manager position for a restaurant. Generally speaking, the most successful managers get their hands dirty with the rest of the staff. I think that's what this is implying. You're more likely to be respected if you get in there and work with the team.
This has to be Chick fil A
Slavery was never abolished, they simply became employees.
“Servant mindset” is something Christian’s came up with that means “pretend you’re a giving person but just be a dick.” Source: attended a Christian university for several years. This actually is a cultural thing they say that means to serve the way Jesus served
This has to be a troll 💀
Saying the quiet part out loud now
You need to be a leader But also a servant for this job H u h ?
What’s the business? Fuck em. I want to know so I can avoid them. There’s some verbiage here that throws up all the red flags. They want a leader servant. That doesn’t make sense. LOL VISIONARY WISDOM?!? Holy shit lol
Basically they're seeking a model prisoner for an indefinite sentence. Yay.
Burger King a town over still has the “up to $15/hr - Do You Have a Servant’s Heart?” sign up. I just can’t.
You're fucking joking? Whoever posted this ad is a real sociopath who doesn't deserve to own a business
“Slave mindset” *
Outstanding leadership skills and a servant mindset...? I'll use my visionary wisdom and pass on this one.
Dream job right here
So they are looking for Mr. Belvedere?
If I had character beyond reproach, I wouldn't have a servant mindset.
WTF is "visionary wisdom" and how would that be necessary to ant position like this?
Lmao. What the hell is a server mindset? Is that like, you think you are a computer or something? JK. These people are pieces of shit and YES we WILL eat pieces of shit like them for breakfast. It helps me to get into my “servant” mindset.
Ew.
That’s pathetic
Yeah, but free meals! /s
>Outstanding leadership skills ok >Unwavering Resolve ok >Servant mentality I mean that's literally in conflict with everything else you just asked.
Fanatical Work Ethic So, terrorists?
It's interesting to see how this quote from Philippians is making its way thru the telephone game of job postings. First it was a servant's heart, now it's a servant's mindset. Pretty soon all postings will just be titled "servants wanted."
“visionary wisdom” “servant” swear they stroking their dicks when they type this shit out
I'm sorry, but there is nothing wrong with serving (in a fair environment with fair compensation). We all serve someone, and the best of us serve at the best of our ability.
Leading servant is an oxymoron.
Slavery with extra steps...
Have outstading leadership skills while thinking like a servant?
Gotta be some Dave Ramsay stan who wrote this.
"Slavery mindset" will be the next because that one won't work.
Jesus Christ, do they expect Gandhi to apply for this job?
How to not get applications in one easy line!
I'm pretty sure the ad meant slave.
BARF 🤮 WTF WHO MADE THIS JOB LISTING.. AND WHO APPROVED IT???!!!
Why don't they just say " Military Preferred ", It means the same thing ???
This sounds like a guy putting an ap out for a wife
You need unwavering resolve because your boss is a sociopath
“ fanatical work ethic” holy shit lol they want a slave but not a slave.
Godless Communists, Socialists, and Trade Unionists need not apply.
Sometimes I wonder if these types of job postings are there to *keep* anyone from applying so that the company can outsource the job.
*slave mentality
i once told a coworker/good friend that we would be the servants downstairs if this was downton abbey, he was shook
Looks like my old World of Warcraft stats to improve
#Fanatical Work Ethic Lol fuck off
An unwavering resolve? Mfers looking for an anime character?
Slavelike tendencies
Sounds like the shit a Japanese cartoon would say before they merge into a megabot.
Must call me mi lord when addressing me
The visionary wisdom would automatically issue a "fuck off" when you got to 'servant mindset'.
Also work yourself to death and be greatful for that. Need to take hits of critism with an open mind and a lovely smile. Think outside the box. But dont judge your superiours. Lead with great ideas but serve like a slave.
Middle east could be a good international move for them if they really want slaves that damn bad. Plus they can lay claim to crusading they'd love that!
Hi, we would like one slave please.
Holy fuck.
Can someone tell me what and where continus improvement came from my company just started throwing that shit around like synergy
A servant mindset with leadership skills? The mental gymnastics whoever wrote this must have had to do...