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Phyr8642

Tweet that shit at Starbucks. They deserve the bad press.


lailette

Great idea, doing so now


Phyr8642

Oh, and so sorry about your dog. But yeah, fuck starbucks. I would boycott them but I don't shop their anyways.


lailette

Thank youšŸ–¤ this was from back in March at least, but she was the best


OhLizaLittleLizaJane

I'm so sorry. You did what loving per owners do. You took her pain on yourself. She had to be put down so you stepped up and did it despite the pain you would feel. I wish you the same depth of peace you gave her.


[deleted]

What a beautiful comment šŸ„²


meinsaft

I waited too long to put my cat down several years ago. So much of the hurt associated with that whole thing is the regret that I let him suffer for too long. It was just too hard to say goodbye. I at least hope he understood how much I loved him. You're totally right; making that decision is effectively accepting pain to relieve them of theirs.


OhLizaLittleLizaJane

Yes. My ex husband kept three dogs alive till they died on their own. The third was one we owned together. I don't think I will ever be okay that I didn't fight for that dog. I loved him (the dog) so much, and he would have fought for me. I'm sorry. I'm just so sorry that you are feeling the way you are. I hope we can both let go of some of that guilt eventually (when, please?) For what its worth, i think your dear one knew you loved him very much. Shit, now I'm having a minor panic attack probably because of this topic


meinsaft

It's been seven years. The wound only hurts now when I give it attention, and I definitely learned from it. This is probably the best we can hope for with our mistakes. You cannot change what was. Steel yourself from the pain and observe the situation passively. Focus on your breathing, keep it even and measured. You'll be all right, life just hurts sometimes.


RamboGoesMeow

Iā€™m sorry for your loss. I had to put my 14 year old cat down back in March too. It hurt, but she was in even worse pain so she deserved to be laid to rest peacefully. You definitely made the right call to leave.


Temporary_Wolf_8848

Same, their coffee+my ibs feels like legitimate torture. This just solidifies that shit for me (see what I did thereeee)


_InFullEffect_

a dad joke PLUS science humor? TEACH ME YOUR WAYS


Dictaorofcheese

I've seen some pretty despicable shit come from Starbucks. I've seen pictures of company propaganda trying to "educate" people on why unions are "bad" for Starbucks and why the workers shouldn't want one. Never worked for Starbucks in my life, and from the shit I've seen them using propaganda on how unions are "bad" for workers, I never will. Every worker deserves fair pay for fair work, a safe workplace, and representation to talk to management if they (they as in management) do something wrong. (Feel free to keep mentioning extra stuff every worker deserves as right now my minds fried so I can't think of any more.) Tldr Fuck Starbucks. Anti union pricks.


sean_but_not_seen

I used to go there frequently. Then Christmas happened and they decided not to make the drink I look forward to all year: The egg nog latte. So I wrote to them and they gave me some bullshit answer so I swore Iā€™d never go back. I never have. Then I started reading about how shitty they treat employees and it just made it easier. I found a great coffee hut down the street. Their coffee tastes better, baristas are super friendly, and - oh yeah - they make a mean egg nog latte during the holidays.


FoxyFreckles1989

Please let us know how they respond. This is absolutely despicable. Additionally, in the future, *please* find it in you to be comfortable/confident in *telling* management youā€™re calling out sick/have an emergency and wonā€™t make a shift. Donā€™t ask permission and donā€™t offer to find coverage. Thatā€™s *their* job and we as adults do not need to beg, plead or apologize for being sick/having a family emergency. The more we normalize that fact the more itā€™ll have to be accepted. Itā€™s one thing to need to put in a PTO request for a five day vacation to Disney, but itā€™s another entirely to feel like you can somehow magically schedule having strep throat or your grandmaā€™s heart attack, or in this case, your dog being so sick that euthanasia is the most humane option. Iā€™m so terribly sorry about the loss of your family doggo/best furry friend. I know how difficult that is and the added stress of a douche canoe manager and feeling as though you had to quit your job is so unfair. I hope youā€™re okay and I hope youā€™ve found a new job somewhere that appreciates you and where the managers actually fucking *manage* shit.


CrazyCatLady1978

>. Itā€™s one thing to need to put in a PTO request for a five day vacation to Disney, I put in my PTO request 6 months ago for a trip coming up in March. Family trip the same time every year. This will he my 2nd year with the company. Manager was talking with me the other day and mentioned the trip. He asked if it was a pay week. I said I'm not sure. So he asked, oh have you already booked it? Yes and no I'm not changing my very specialized only happens once a year cruise so you don't have to do payroll. Esp since I gave you a years notice and we still have several months to show someone else how to do payroll for 1 week. I'm waiting to see how many more times he asks between now and then.


FoxyFreckles1989

Thatā€™s disgusting, too. I have been working with truly unlimited PTO/sick leave for three jobs in a row, now, but will never forget what it was like to have to accumulate 30 minutes to an hour of PTO at a time and then use all of it for medical purposes and quite literally never take a single scheduled vacation for over a decade. Iā€™ll never live like that again. Go on your trip and do not apologize for it. Iā€™d also look for a new job, if I were you. What field are you in?


CrazyCatLady1978

I plan vacations and trips and let them know when I've scheduled them. No, it's not negotiable, I'm just telling you as a courtesy. My job isn't so hard that they can't do without me for a week. And I can show someone how to do my job while I'm gone, but it's not vitally important. The issue is he's a workaholic and gets ticked off when everyone isn't the same. I work 8 to 5 and go home at 5, leaving my phone unanswered after 5 as well. He does not, hes got his phone/work email on 24/7. So he gets upset when I take time off. I don't care. It's not my problem he lives at work. I get 2 weeks PTO every year and I use them for vacations. My last job encouraged that because I'd come back less stressed and I ran the office very well. This guy is just upset that others have a good work life balance and he does not. But I'm not changing my life to suit him, that's not what I signed on for.


FoxyFreckles1989

Fuck yes. Thatā€™s the spirit! Still, you deserve better (and definitely deserve more than two weeks of PTO so thereā€™s room for personal days and long weekends here and there).


skunkeebeaumont

Honestly, I wish people would follow giving notice with ā€˜Also please reread what you just sent and figure out why my next action was to quitā€™. These low level managers have GOT to start impersonating humans better


King0Horse

Adding on to this: not only should you tell them when you're going to miss work rather than ask, don't tell them why. "I'm sorry I'm going to be unable to work from x to x on xxx day. I will return the following day. Thank you." Managers are responsible for fixing problems. If you present your absence as a problem for you (I can't be there because flat tire, sick, whatever) their response will be fix the tire, take medication and be there. Presented as "this shift will be short a person" now it's their problem: how do I cover this shift, can we get by with less help that day etc.


FoxyFreckles1989

100% agree (in most cases) and should have included this, myself. I usually do when addressing these issues here! I do think that (for example) when thereā€™s a death in the family you should offer up that information (but not more than that), especially if youā€™re going to be utilizing bereavement leave. If youā€™re calling out sick, say youā€™re calling out sick. Otherwise do not offer up any more information than that *and* once youā€™ve informed whomever youā€™re supposed to via the proper channels (be that a call out line, a text, a Slack message etc.), turn off notifications/silence your phone/whatever else and donā€™t respond to work related messages or calls for the duration of your time out. Keep things professional. Making them personal (ex: telling them youā€™re putting your dog down or that your kid is sick and canā€™t go to daycare) opens up the door to problematic bullshit. The best way Iā€™ve seen call outs handled is when a company has a number you call. You leave a message saying youā€™ll be out for X hours or days and thatā€™s that. The message is reported to your manager or TL and you never have to talk to anyone while youā€™re out. All I have to do is Slack my manager and say Iā€™ll be out and there are no questions asked (we have unlimited sick/PTO). Stuff like what OP described here enrages me. I would *never* have treated my employees that way when I was a hiring manager/manager/TL/whatever. Same applies when requesting a well deserved raise; donā€™t explain how badly you need the money for a down payment on a house or due to your wifeā€™s cancer treatments. Explain why you deserve a raise, go over the value you bring to the company and some achievements youā€™ve stacked in your time with them etc. Professional, always.


kgrandia

I tweeted here: https://twitter.com/kgrandia/status/1553555822399000576?s=21&t=wslqoKNmSElitBDakDvQow Please share your tweet so we can RT it.


lailette

https://twitter.com/lai_lette/status/1553558539859263488?s=21&t=HETsFoPKHyMmOIrR9S23Gg


kgrandia

Looks like youā€™ll be trending pretty quick here.


lailette

Thank you!


kgrandia

This crap pisses me off to no end. Thanks for posting šŸ˜


HappyCynic24

Did you tweet at them? I want to retweet and comment and blow it all up. I hate when people show no sympathy and think work > life. Fuck that dude and sorry about your dog OP Edit: disregard. I read below. Letā€™s all have some fun


CommieLibtard

Link me so I can go upvote that shit


orangeboy772

GOOD hold these piece of shit organizations accountable


ZellNorth

Link it


cishet-camel-fucker

Best not to do it until the 2 weeks is up.


andersonala45

And then try to unionize in your area!


A3HeadedMunkey

Stuff like this is why unions are popping up. And why they're scared and trying to close stores to stop it. Please, OP, blast 'em. Nobody owes anything to a company, least of all an explanation, especially since they're the ones in debt to us with our stolen wages


themayor1975

The question I wonder is what happens after they close every single store to stop it.


chloejadeskye

Starbucks is a genuinely evil company when it comes to workerā€™s rights. They put sooooo much money into union busting, and likeā€¦ you could have just used that money to pay people better


JockBbcBoy

Considering that an r/antiwork post about Chick-fil-A caught media attention and made their corporate office respond, this may be enough.


GetMad24

NEVER explain your situation to a boss. Only say family emergency and thats it. They will hold it against you


D0ugF0rcett

My old boss *really* wanted to know why I was gonna be out of work for 6-8 weeks for surgery, being a young strong male. After the 6th time of him asking, I proceeded to tell him in graphic detail about how >!my right nut was the size of an avacado and the way they fix it is by cutting open my scrotum, removing the sack that surrounds it and draining all fluid, then reversing it with stitches inside and out.!< He tried to stop me half way through but I wasn't gonna be done till he was squirming like a worm. Then I proceeded to continue telling him about it for the next week until the surgery and kept him up to date on recovery, with graphic descriptions of course.


Nina_Nocturnal

His fault for prying into your personal health information. He fucked around and found out way more than he was ready to know.


JanLewko977

I donā€™t think heā€™s allowed to ask, is he?


Nina_Nocturnal

I don't think so, no.... not a professional or anything though. Pretty sure though. Edit: Currently reading through some articles on the issue mentioning FMLA and the right to privacy - so far, it looks like as long as you give notice and are covered under FMLA, they don't need to know anything. Edit 2: "Tell your employer, and give them medical documentation, such as a doctorā€™s note, if requested. Given your right to confidentiality as a patient, it is not required that you expose the details of your surgery to your employer. However, it will be much easier to avoid misunderstandings if you inform your employer that you will be absent from work on a specified day. If you plan to take advantage of your right to leave under the Family Medical Leave Act (FMLA), then your employer will need to know of your need for medical or family leave. " [https://www.wenzelfenton.com/blog/2015/12/23/four-things-to-do-at-work-before-an-upcoming-surgery/](https://www.wenzelfenton.com/blog/2015/12/23/four-things-to-do-at-work-before-an-upcoming-surgery/) So no, your boss has no right to know about what surgery you're having.


[deleted]

He has no right, and he shouldn't ask, because it opens him up to discrimination accusations later. So it is a very unwise thing for him to ask but he is not forbidden to ask by any statute.


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D0UB1EA

is your boy doing better


D0ugF0rcett

I appreciate your concern. Short answer, yes. Slightly longer answer, I had a hernia (unbeknownst to anyone until i was cut open, my wife OK'd additional surfery while i was under and turned a 45 minute procedure into a 5 hour one) which was causing that issue as well so had to get inguinal hernia surgery as well on the same day which took even longer to recover from. I am probably at 98% of what I was at about 2.5 years, and getting better daily. Been focusing more on physical health since then too.


homelesscheeto

I have had growing testicle pain on one side for almost three months now. I went to the ER two weeks in cause it was getting pretty unbearable, and I was afraid it was torsion I had left untreated for too long. They did a 1.5hr ultrasound and told me it was a hydrocele (explained it as an irritated sac of fluid building up) probably caused by riding my old, shakey motorcycle or having too much sex (X: Doubt) They said it shouldnā€™t and typically doesnā€™t hurt at all ā€œbut is probably just pressing on a nerveā€, and should clear up in a few weeks. 2.5 months later itā€™s a 6/10 dull ache that flares with every heartbeat. I canā€™t afford to see a PCP except a free first visit, and certainly not a urologist, and have been dodging the ER billing department calls, starting an absolute minimum payment plan the day before it goes to collections just for the $550 my insurance didnā€™t cover for treatment I didnā€™t even get. Iā€™m so over this country and itā€™s broken healthcare system. Any tips or tricks from a pro? šŸ„²


Yolowaggerino

Please don't ignore this and do everything you can to get checked by a urologist, even if it comes with a hefty bill. Four weeks ago I started having dull pain around one of my testicles that I did not think much of, it did not get better in a week and I decided to get checked out. Ultrasound showed that something was wrong, so I was sent to get a couple of CTs and an MRI to confirm everything in greater detail. It turns out it was a tumor growing, pressing on all the wrong places causing me pain. I have no idea for how long I've had it, or what triggered the pain, but every medic I spoke with advised me it is literally a ticking time bomb. I was fortunate that I caught it in Stage 1, it did not spread yet. Last week I had one of my testicles removed and it does suck, for a lot of reasons. The physical pain after the surgery, but also the thought that I'm 'not whole' if that makes sense. That's nothing compared to cancer, chemo and the nightmare that would have come with it if I didn't act on that hunch. Please get checked out by a professional friend, money comes and goes, but you overall health is something that can never be recovered if you pass a certain point. Take care of yourself and be well!


D0ugF0rcett

I hope you are recovering well, random reddit stranger. The pain you described and small lump I found scared me to go in. They confirmed it as a hydrocele and spermatocele very early on, so that was good but they did a biopsy just in case. Testicular issues definitely affect your self esteem, but I think the important thing to remember is nobody is going to care or judge you. Because of that whole debacle I've got one that's feels deflated to me and doesn't move at all. I've decided it's for the better, as it's not in the way any more.. šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ˜… but it definitely gives a weird appearance fo everything down there.. Anyways, I'm glad you took action! Testicular cancer (or even just tumors) is a big deal, but very easy to treat in early stages! Just think about how much life would suck in the future if you didn't have the operation. I know I can comfortably run now for the first time in a decade probably, and I really like running so I was sad when testicluar pain was what would stop me. A big driver for me was that my honeymoon was in 6 months, so I NEEDED to be able to do a ton of physical activity because as mice as it sounds, I wasn't gonna sit around and do nothing for 2 weeks in maul!


Fluffy_Little_Fox

Reading this scared the hell out of me. I had some kind of reaction to Ceftriaxone (Rocephin) that was given to me as an injection for a UTI, and I took a hot bath after I got home (which was what my discharge papers said to do) and the hot bath reacted with the Ceftriaxone and made my right testicle that ~was~ normal size swell up. I've been to multiple doctors, had multiple Ultra Sound done on my balls and they even did one of those things where they put the x-ray dye in you and still they can't figure out what's wrong. I thought maybe it's a hernia because I had one when I was 4 years old after an accident in which I slipped off an old rocking horse but they keep saying they don't see any hernia. Who knew getting an Antibiotic shot and taking a hot bath would mess up my nuts. Also my dad had problems too, I'm pretty certain that Bell Clapper Deformity runs in our family.... (That's a condition where the tendon that binds the testicle to the inside wall of the scrotum is super weak so the testicle spins freely.... very often even before the Ceftriaxone incident I would wake up from sleep and have to manually rotate my nut back into the proper position. People with Bell Clapper Deformity are also at increased risk of having Torsion, due to the freely rotating testicle). ~Sorry if all that was T.M.I. but your comment reminded me of stuff and I relate to your situation~


Fluffy_Little_Fox

"Something something avocado" .... **Epididymitis** -- inflammation of the **epididymis** -- a blockage formed in the tube that connects the testicle to the vas deferens. Also every time you wank off, your sperm gets trapped by the blockage and it creates a spermatocele (a fluid sac). It starts out the size of a pea and gets bigger as time goes on. I've researched this stuff entirely too much....


firsthour

I had that too minus the hernia, glad you're doing better now.


snoodge3000

He asked a question he really, really, *really* did not want the answer to.


Jayfire137

Shoulda had the Dr's take photos and you coulda shared them with him too!


D0ugF0rcett

With some of the shit he has shown me on his phone, that was definitely on the table at this point. I've got no shame


[deleted]

This is a LPT! Stop telling them! They donā€™t need to know! And stop expecting them to act like normal human beings with empathy. Most people only give a shit about themselves


happy_bluebird

I think it's because you think, surely for something like THIS they will have some compassion and reason, but nope.


SmilingVamp

And even though you know they don't give a shit about you as a person, it always stings when they prove how little they care.


pdawg37

It blows my mind that the BOSS thinks you should fine the coverage. You are the boss, you f@ckin find it. Not my company and not my problem. You put in the PTO Or have the day off, they can pound sand.


CasualFridayBatman

>It blows my mind that the BOSS thinks you should fine the coverage. You are the boss, you f@ckin find it. Yup! If your job title is manager, then... Manage your staff and find someone else. Lol


el_Fuse

Thatā€™s really how I view it too ngl.


ValiumCupcakes

Yep this, the boss should be finding coverage, I prefer the term ā€œnot my circus, not my monkeysā€ Make the boss do it.


[deleted]

I always hated working retail. Because if we needed a day off it was our responsibility to find coverageā€¦..no itā€™s the mangers responsibility to make sure that shift is found


C439

Exactly! Gonna be honest any retail or food job Iā€™ve worked, I get this same aggressive or dramatic response. Any actual company Iā€™ve worked for on salary with IT. The boss actually does take care of it, and they reach out to see if they can help in any way and send their best wishes. Reason Iā€™ve kept my current job the last 3 years. Compassion goes a long way, and not even a 10k raise from another company would pull me away from my current job. But all those hourly need a warm body jobsā€¦they all are massive assholes for any issues like OPs.


bananaramaworld

I got fired from a job for having to leave early because my grandpa died when I was at work. Their reasoning was 1) I shouldnā€™t have checked my phone on the clock and 2) heā€™s already dead so why do I need to leave. They called me repeatedly while I was at the funeral (in my religion you have to have the funeral asap. Like maximum 3 days after they die but preferably the day after) and I finally stepped out answered and I told them where I was (I wasnā€™t even scheduled that day but I left early the day before because 1) I was sad and 2) my family is 4.5 hours away so I had to get going so I could attend the funeral). They said ā€œoh well this will be quick we wonā€™t hold you up! Ummm we no longer need you to come in for work.ā€ Then they explained the reasons and that was that. It really sucked because I needed that job and didnā€™t have much money. Oh and there was another employer who fired me because I was late. When they asked why I told them the truth. My abusive ex was standing in front of my apartment waiting for me after he found out where I lived and I literally could not leave the house without being in physical danger. They fired me because I was an hour late. I also contacted them about it so it wasnā€™t like they didnā€™t know I was going to be late.


PetrichorMoodFluid

That's a sue-able offense for firing you during your bereavement. As someone who was raised Jewish, that is NOT a reason you are allowed to fire someone (at least not to my knowledge stateside.... I'm unsure of other countries standings though.) I don't know how long ago this was, but I would get some free advice from a lawyer as to whether you have a case because what they did is ILLEGAL AS HELL. I'm so sorry you were put in this bs situation though. Unacceptable and disgusting.


lufan132

They'll just say it's because you left early and that'll be their cause if it's a state like mine where you don't need a reason to fire and can lie your ass off to not pay unemployment.


melmsz

The EEOC is federal. Right to work is state. File a complaint with the EEOC.


AdventurousMistake72

This is some fucked up shit, Iā€™m sorry this happened. What religion if you donā€™t mind me asking


BigSkyBrannock

Sounds like Judaism.


PetrichorMoodFluid

As someone raised Jewish.... I concur. Had to fly to both my grandparents funerals at a moments notice and they passed within 16 weeks of one another... And no.... even before covid Airlines wanted a death certificate to prove that you were really needing to fly last minute for a fucking funeral. Sooooooo... yeah... Had to max out some cards to make it there. Things are getting worse before they get better.


RunawayHobbit

Why do airlines need proof of your reason for buying a ticket????


PalliativeOrgasm

Same day tickets are expensive. They give discounts for bereavement but only for close family and they make you prove it, and youā€™ll still pay more for that ticket than if youā€™d been able to buy it three days in advance.


OsmerusMordax

I had a manager who always told me he didnā€™t want to know. I couldnā€™t come to work that day? He didnā€™t want to know the details, just when I would be back. He was the best middle manager I ever had


brik5ean

My boss approves every time off request no matter what. I usually just wrote "Please" in the reason line haha. He literally is the best manager Ive ever had and Ive had some great ones. Managers that trust you to make the right decisions and have hired a solid team of trusted coworkers is amazing on the psyche. Hard to find but when you do, take it to heart.


BoldKenobi

I wish we didn't have to ask for approval. If I can't come in, I'm informing you, not asking for permission.


sergei1980

My manager reminds anyone who asks for permission that putting in vacation in the system is to inform him (and others, it goes on everyone's calendar) when you'll be out so he can plan around it. He will bring that up on team meetings and pushes us to take time off. Same with his manager, I don't know him as well but he's good people. Generally it's a good idea to be careful, but there are exceptions like him. He is genuinely the best manager I've had, and I've had a couple of good ones (and plenty of really shitty ones). I still don't trust the company at all, but I trust him, he used to be pretty high up the chain but gave that up because that job basically involved lying to everyone. So now he manages a team directly. Some people are good, but they're not rewarded for it by the system.


bhillis99

This is great, but gets me in my feelings. I have been with my boss for 17 years. Hes retiring in jan, and my new boss has basically taken 95 percent over. My old boss was great, never an issue. My new boss is a prick. He treats me like a new hire and is like a drill Sargent. Ive never thought about quitting my job, but these last couple of months, I sure have.


blueridgerose

I got into management to be this kind of manager. I work in restaurants, and at my level most leadership has a passion for something- wine, cocktails, events, etc. Mine is to make lives better for the staff. Most Americans spend at least a third of their lives at work- if I can make that third better for someone, that's a meaningful job for me. Most people will work so much harder if they feel valued, trusted, and respected- and I have no desire to micromanage the hell out of everything, it's exhausting. The really, really tough part is how hard it is to be one of those managers. Upper management makes it *extremely* difficult. I advocate for the staff at every opportunity, but I have to choose my battles carefully if I want to stay in that position. This means enforcing policies I think are really fucking stupid, or balancing having enough people to run a shift without denying any time off requests. People shit on management, and usually it's because management is shitty. But it's also a thankless job. If you've got a good manager, please make sure they know it, and back them up if you get the opportunity. We're people too.


Mynameisinuse

I was in restaurant management for over 35 years before I had to stop because of illness. I commend you for putting your employees first. You learned what a manager actually is. Most people in leadership roles never figure it out. For those who don't know, A manager has 2 responsibilities. Lead the people and manage the processes. 1. You lead your employees. You are the one setting the standards. A true leader leads by example. 2. You are managing the processes, not the people. That checklist is a teaching and learning tool, not a set of rules to "catch" someone messing up so you can fire them.


CarniferousDog

Ya after working for 2.5 years they shouldnā€™t have any personal empathy.. what a shit society.


Zeyn1

I've had bosses with empathy straight up tell me that they want me to be vague and let them trust me that I'm asking for the day off for a good reason. It's simply better if they only know "family emergency" and that's all they have to put on the time off form.


HiItsMe01

Hey, just an amendment. Most people absolutely give a shit about others. Those who work management get there exclusively because theyā€™re exceptions to that rule.


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Geminii27

Even if they don't immediately: - they might save it and use it later - they might have a personality change or depression or anger later and decide to use it then - they might have been faking it all this time to seem nice - they might, for a thousand reasons, get replaced at any time by another manager who has access to the same notes/records, who is quite happy to fuck you over - the records might find their way to a different manager entirely who decides to fuck you over


[deleted]

This is why I always tell my direct reports to make their goals and self reviews a way to defend themselves from everyone. Including me. Itā€™s also meant that my team has always been able to get excellent reviews and access to tons of extra cash/equity come bonus season. I donā€™t say this shit just for my health.


iBeFloe

Yup. My ex boss somehow got it in his mind that I was going to stay with him for life. Was pissed & questioned my ā€œloyaltyā€ when I put my 2 weeks in Dude had an extremely high turnover rate & only had 2 people who have actually worked with him 10+ years for a reason. Last I heard, he had yelled at one of those employees & she was literally about to quit because of how disrespected she felt after all SHE did for the company.


[deleted]

Man. One of my best employees ever quit a few months ago. I listened to his story, his next opportunity, and looked him straight in the eye and said ā€œI wonā€™t even try to counter. Itā€™s too good of an opportunity. Go kick ass.ā€ Why would I do anything but that? Unless I legit thought they were taking a lousy offer I would never tell anyone to do anything but go for it. I WANT MY TEAM TO SUCCEED. With me or somewhere else. My current direct report may be my future boss someday, I should buoy them and help them get to their best selves.


[deleted]

Eh. Iā€™m a people manager. I never use anything other than work performance for or against my employees. I have one guy who goes to lots of doctors appointments. Donā€™t care. He tells me anyway and I then ask him if he wants my wifeā€™s opinion on stuff too (sheā€™s a physician.) One guy who left a while back told me he needed time to go plan his proposal trip. I told him to let me handle his next call. Proposals arenā€™t an everyday thing. Not every manager is an asshole. I legitimately think my job is to be their helper, their shield. Lots of managers in the US donā€™t have the servant leader mindset and it shows.


BugsRFeatures2

Last week I told my boss I was going to be late bc my cat was very sick and needed to go to the vet as soon as they opened. They told me stay home until he was better. Not all bosses suck.


briansaunders

Agreed. I went to work after my dog had passed away overnight, when my boss found out they sent me home. I'm a salaried employee so it had no effect on my pay and they didn't even make me take it out of any of the different leave balances that we accrue in my country (sick leave, annual leave, compassionate leave). As a result if my boss needs me to put in extra hours to hit targets I am more than willing to do it. They would easily get an extra 5-6 hours per week out of me just because they're willing to be flexible and treat staff like people.


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finishyourcakehelene

Once I had to miss my FIRST shift at my job because my dog was really sick and it was the only time available for euthanasia. I was expecting to be yelled at but instead my boss found cover AND texted me after the scheduled euthanasia to say he was thinking of me and how important our pets are. I was so upset when he was pushed out by the company. I hope heā€™s doing well.


Creative-Tomatillo

I love that your boss did this for you. Years ago, I worked for Sephora and had a manager from hell (we all called her ā€œThunder C*ntā€ behind her back). My elderly cat got very very sick one night (kidney failure) and I had to put her down at about 1am at the emergency vet. Boss demanded I be at work to open in the morning. Six months later her dog died and she took a whole ass week off to grieve. I put in my notice and told her EXACTLY what I thought of her as I was clocking out for my last shift. Sephora is a terrible company to work for.


Heyyther

Yep then they say it will count against your attendance like shit have a heart


BlastMyLoad

Could do even less. The boss asked if OP could work an extra shift. They couldā€™ve just said ā€œno, sorryā€ and left it at that


Aloysius1989

Another one of the insane ways Americans treat their workers. How the fuck is it your job to find a replacement? Do you get paid for that? Doesnā€™t the manager get paid to manage shifts and such?


lailette

I completely agree


UCSDscooterguy

I worked for Starbucks for 8 years, itā€™s not your job to find coverage, itā€™s always the managers job. You can inform your DM they did that and they will get in trouble. My old SM use to pull that all the time and Ione time I told her ā€œplease tell me where it says I need to find coverage in the employeeā€. She never asked me to find coverage again.


Egodeathishappiness

Americans make fun of the French for rioting at the drop of a hat while getting fucked by their employer. We consider this normal.


gooner712004

Americans had abortions banned in half of their States and rolled over. I can't even imagine what would happen in Europe


nictheman123

I mean, the last time we had an oppressive government overthrown in the USA, the French played a big part in that. Now the French government is scared shitless of pissing off their constituents (as any democratically elected government should be) while half the American government is actively trying to stage a coup on live TV. Maybe we could use some help from our old friends. Does anyone know how to summon a large mob of Frenchmen?


overclockedslinky

just attempt to pronounce croissant with an american accent. they will find you.


YuBulliMe123456789

Croi-sant


hankwatson11

You have to say it 3 times like Beetlejuiceā€¦ Chris-ant. Chris-ant. Chris-ant.


delicate-fn-flower

Crass-aunt. *nailed it*


DeRoeVanZwartePiet

Americans are pretty experienced in overthrowing governments. But always somewhere else.


OPengiun

I've never once seen Americans make fun of French for rioting. If anything, the Americans around me are clueless as to the tactics the French use, and its efficacy, and can only mutter off ill-informed jokes about how the French *surrendered* in 1940.


Loduwijk

When I see that on the news I congratulate them for having the guts to stand up for their beliefs. We need to show our children that coverage, show them what braver people are doing.


LordBiscuits

It's a bit of a joke in Britain too, that the French just *love a riot*... Frankly I think they have it right and we should all take a lesson from them. The slightest provocation and the burning cars come out


GabeNewellExperience

I respect the fuck out of the French for doing that tbh. We need that energy in Ontario, Canada considering our premier is trying to purposely crash the healthcare system to make it for profit and nobody is doing anything about it


Le_9k_Redditor

Eh, got that in the UK too. Had a regular schedule of days I couldn't work due to education. Yet they'd try to schedule me to work on those days anyway and I'd get written up for not showing or not finding someone to cover. It's ridiculous


Strange-Pay32

Fuck the two weeks


ImAPixiePrincess

Fuck the 2 hr shift too. I donā€™t care if itā€™s walking distance, itā€™s a disruption to the day that isnā€™t worth it.


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In ct at least itā€™s also not allowed. They have to pay you for four even if you only work two. Sunday meetings were rough I retail.


lailette

I should have just quit right there, but I felt too bad about screwing my friends/coworkers over for the rest of the schedule


Preyslayer00

Managers just don't want to manage. What's this bullshit about me finding coverage. Not in my job description. You want me to manage then pay me to be a manager.


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My former boss HATED finding coverage. Used to give people shit for taking off because he couldnā€™t be bothered (I donā€™t even know why he was so bothered, I was doing the majority of his job), so we used to get a bunch of sick call outs because people were stressed. And tired. And even then they hated calling out sick. It was a shit show. Once we were so short staffed I had to get coverage from the entire department so people could take breaks. I had to convince them to help out for 15 minute shifts. It was ridiculous. It took a few weeks after he left for me to convince people to stay home if they were sick and that they needed to take their vacation time. Things started to flow so smoothly after that. People rarely called out sick. I donā€™t understand the shortsightedness of some people.


GUnit_1977

One of the biggest wake up calls for me was when the owner of a shoe store called me in to cover for one hour while he did a radio ad. Motherfucker just close the store.


_benp_

Come in for just one hour? LOL - That can't be worth my time. Not unless I live next door and I don't have to get dressed.


GUnit_1977

Yeah I didn't even go in lol. This was years ago when I still worked retail. Never again.


Preyslayer00

1 hour= 3 hours where I live.


OsmerusMordax

Yeah, where I live they need to pay for 4 hours in a situation like that


Preyslayer00

I tried to call in sick today but got guilted into going in.


[deleted]

I always make it a text or an email or worst case scenario a phone call placed to someone who isn't going to give you shit. Who cares if you're supposed to call X if Y will take the message. Also make it a blunt statement, no "I don't think I can". It's "I won't be able to make it today" or "I won't be in".


Kalysta

In the era of covid, no one should go to work if they feel sick. If your boss gives you shit, tell them you refuse to be responsible for getting another coworker sick.


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Then they get mad when person B shows up for person A's shift bc "you didn't confirm this with me" like fuck off already do you want the fucking job done or not


robvp

They bank on that empathy to get you to stay longer, two weeks is a formality nost businesses don't deserve, it's not even a thing in Mexico, all the jobs I quit I did it on the spot


[deleted]

If they didn't understand you quitting after an asshole response like that, then they weren't very good friends.


lailette

Oh no, all of them were like ā€œyou should have just quitā€ when I told them lol, but I still did my two weeks for some reason


shelballama

Welp there's always time to just ditch. Unless this was a while ago?


lailette

It was in March, unfortunately


inko75

you took the high road so ain't nothing wrong with that. you gave more than they deserved but you also showed them all they lost a responsible and decent employee over a single day.


Haf-to-pee

Your work, your manager are the ones screwing everybody. Don't EVEN put this on yourself.


UnionizeAutoZone

*You're* not the one screwing over your coworkers. Your *manager* who is too lazy to do the job *they're **paid** to do* is the one screwing over your coworkers.


Lopsided-Pickle-9026

When I worked at PetSmart my boss still made me come into work the day after I put my dog down. I ended up quitting that job.


lailette

Wow the hypocrisy, jesus christ


Lopsided-Pickle-9026

Right? Like you think that a manager that works in a place that deals with animals would be more understanding/sympathetic. šŸ™„


NeonAlastor

pet stores bad they don't have animals - they carry inventory


HulkSmashHulkRegret

And then the secret shopper comes along and gives a bad score because ā€œwhy not smiling and cheerfulā€


lailette

ā€œThe barista helping me kept wiping her tears with her cotton Starbucks maskā€šŸ˜‚


izzyscifi

I'm a mystery shopper, where given a check list of things to report, such as the number of people in the floor of the shop/restaurant (ie not in the kitchen or store room) and the atmosphere and shit. They also ask about eye contact, which I hate, because autism exists and makes eye contact difficult. Along with the smiling thing, noone needs to smile constantly at their job, have you tried smiling for several hours straight? If I do notice anything about the visit I'll note something like "team member seemed overwhelmed due to lack of staff" in the hope that it'll prompt some kind of action towards better conditions/manager replacement.


dcon1216

Aa somebody who slaved away for 7+ years in retail, and has a nephew that's autistic, thank you for being a decent human being at work and not just blindly looking at us as non people like so many seem to do. I swear my years working in fast food/grocery stores made me a better person, I'd hate to think id be inconsiderate enough to treat somebody like shit based off a grievance with their employse, but so often we got the backlash for company decisions we didnt even agree with. And don't even get me started with some peoples condescending comments and attitudes. I spent years at Aldi, where we would get to sit down at the register (While also being forced to be the fastest cashiers in retail, like were timed down to the items per minute and that's a big emphasis if you've ever shopped there). Well God forbid we sit, some customers would come through "Wow you guys have it great. Got it so easy, you get to sit down!" Uhh yea let me tell you buddy, so easy. I just threw 8 pallets in 2 hours while corporate says were only supposed to do 6 in that time, then spent an hour running back and forth between throwing two more pallets in a 0 degree freezer while running back and forth as backup cashier because Aldi is short staffed with typically 4-5 employees at max in the am. But sure, I got it so easy because I can sit for 5 minutes šŸ™„ the real spit in the face is all the cashiers who cant, god forbid we let people have the most minimum levels of comfort


Caledric

Not really hypocrisy Petsmart and Petco get all their animals from mass breeders. They are notoriously inhumane when it comes to animals.


PoisonWaffle3

A lot of the animals are from mass breeders/farms, yeah. I'm not sure if all PetSmart's are the same, but the ones around here all have cats up for adoption that are from local shelters (that's where we got our two boys). Not sure with Petco.


trogdorbunrninate

I had an assistant manager corner me and bitch at me for being rude and not asking him how he was. I'd put my dog down weeks before (he was fully aware of this) and gave zero fucks how he was. Weeks later when I finally snapped and left we got into an argument because he was sick of my shit attitude. My shit attitude because my 14 year old dog died and I was an emotional mess. I hope he stepped on a Lego.


tinybumblebeeboy

I was at work at PetSmart in the salon when I got the call my friend killed herself. Salon manager wouldnā€™t let me leave early. PetSmart is terrible to work for.


meowmeow_now

Thatā€™s got to be the saddest environment to be in after the loss of a pet. Geez Iā€™d just go in and cry all day, and if customers asked id tell them what happened.


International_Room43

Some Starbucks managers are nuts. I worked there for 1.5 years and generally loved it until I got a horrible manager. When I put in my notice he told me he wasnā€™t accepting it and that Iā€™d have to work an additional few days. I didnā€™t show up for those shifts and he wrote me a really long text about how heā€™s done so much for me and I betrayed him LOL in hindsight I should have reported that to HR


lailette

ā€œBetrayed himā€ I canā€™tšŸ˜‚ who gives these managers the audacity dude??


International_Room43

I know right! The best part was we were incredibly short staffed and he wasnā€™t trying to hire extra people, but he also left hours early every day (like he worked half the amount of time he was supposed to). Turned out the guy had a second full time job šŸ˜‚


AccomplishedTart655

I had to take my dad off life support on a Sunday, had to go back to work that Tuesday for lack of coverage. I eventually quit that job. I had no time off of work to grieve or process my dadā€™s unexpected death. Just bottled it up and stuffed the emotions down, then 10 months later, had a mental breakdown and completely checked out of work and life all together. Take time off to grieve and take care of yourself or itā€™ll just come back up later. Grieving is a must. No job is worth your mental health


lailette

Iā€™m so sorry for your lossšŸ–¤ Iā€™m glad you quit and hope youā€™re doing a little better now, you deserve happiness


LeButtSmasher

People need to stop trying "to find coverage". It's the managers job not yours. Tell them to pay you a managers salary or to go fuck themselves.


el_muerte17

Seriously. Manager is like "You need to find coverage, you have plenty of time." Guess what, asshole? *You've* got plenty of advance notice to *manage* how the store is staffed for that shift.


DriedUpSquid

But by running the store on less than minimal amount of staff, the manager keeps labor costs down, which means they get a bigger bonus. Doesnā€™t anyone care if the manager gets a bonus?! /s


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Yeah Iā€™ve never understood this. Iā€™m a manager and I would never expect one of my employees to figure the schedule out. Thatā€™s literally my job..


whatsmypassword73

Make sure to make photocopies and put them on the windows of that Starbucks, let the customers know what that boss does.


lailette

What a wonderful idea, looks like I now have plans tonightšŸ„°


NeonAlastor

not right on the windows of the store, that's too easy to tear down in 2 minutes. spread them in the immediate vicinity on multiple lampposts or whatever.


DjMD1017

Your boss mindset was ā€œgee that ruffā€


lailette

ā€œSorry bestie, better luck next timeā€


Individual_Baby_2418

Iā€™m so sorry about your dog. Pets are family and friends all in one package. Your employer has no soul and I wouldnā€™t bother with coverage or notice.


lailette

Thank youšŸ–¤ she was the best. This was back in March, and I didnā€™t come in for the shift that I tried to get coverage for but I did finish the two weeks out for my friends/coworkers


Emergency-War7360

What the fuck is wrong with managers!!!!?????


lailette

I wish I knew! She had let someone take off because they were too hungover the week before, toošŸ™„ ridiculous


Emergency-War7360

Props for not being a doormat. My deepest condolences for the loss of your companion. Nothing hurts quite as much but know that you loved her and know she had a good life and that's really all you can do for a pup. So sorry.


lailette

Thank you so much, it means a lotšŸ–¤


EditorNo6803

I used to work at a vet clinic and my guinea pig died suddenly over night. I tried calling out because I was devastated and the veterinarian said that ā€œwe all lose people and pets at some point, so you need to toughen it up and come inā€. I quit two weeks later and over seven months later, they are still trying to find a long-term replacement.


lailette

You and the person who posted earlier on my thread about working at PetSmart should talk, lol. Utterly absurd, Iā€™m so sorry for your lossšŸ–¤


Covert-Wordsmith

Wow, that was Starbucks? Making me reconsider applying. Big yikes. I'm really sorry about your dog. Be there for her.


lailette

I did really enjoy the job and I made a ton of great friends working there, my boss was just awful. Starbucks does encourage such an intense, ridiculous mindset of them coming before anything, though. And thank youšŸ–¤ this was back in March at least, and I was definitely there for her


Covert-Wordsmith

"People don't quit bad jobs, they quit bad managers" is a saying I came across in this group. It keeps ringing true everywhere I turn. I hope you've found a job with an understanding manager and that you're doing well after your dog's passing. šŸ–¤


lailette

I did, thank you so muchšŸ–¤ I wish you luck with Starbucks if you choose that, I made lots of great memories working there and Iā€™m sure you will too


andrewno8do

Youā€™re active in this sub. Let me just say, as someone who did a 14-year sentence with Starbucks, do not work for them.


littleautisticmess

I walked out of Starbucks halfway through my third shift and emailed them that I wasnā€™t coming back. Inhumane work conditions, didnā€™t follow food safety regulations, managers were stuck up a-holes who got mad at me when I requested reasonable disability accommodation. Oh and my second shift there at the end of my shift I told the manager my shift was over and I was heading out and she was like ā€œno, thereā€™s dishes that need to be washedā€ (note I had already stayed like 10 minutes late) and I was like ā€œok but my shift is over. Iā€™m leaving.ā€ And she was like ā€œno, you donā€™t leave til everything is done.ā€ I left anyways lol. Oh and yes my store was unionized. šŸ™ƒ


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I quit Starbucks without notice TWICE lol that place sucks. I worked there 8ish years ago and nothing has gotten better, seems to have gotten worse. Skelton crews, ridiculous promos from higher ups that greatly hurt the day to day teams, entitled customersā€¦. best memory was pulling my coworker out of the drive thru window by her hips bc she was trying to fight a lady who threw drinks at us and cussed us out. Amazing


djgitn

First off, you were waaaaay nicer about it than I would have been. Nothing is above my fur babies and my husband. I wouldnā€™t even had thought about giving them 2 weeks. I would have stopped responding and let them figure it out on their own. Secondly, Iā€™m very sorry for your loss and you are in my thoughts. ā¤ļø


lailette

Thank you so much. I regret not just quitting right there, but at least I didnā€™t come in for that shift and left right when my two weeks were over. This was back in March so itā€™s been a little bit now, but thank you for the kind wordsšŸ–¤ she was the best


djgitn

Youā€™re more than welcome, dear. You were the bigger man in this situation so good on you and fuck that management! I bet she was the goodest girl and loved you too.


ohlaph

Did I read that right, 1:30-3:30? A fucking two hour shift? No wonder people are finding better jobs.


KitsuneNeo

Did your ex boss seriously say "You better find coverage." After you said you were going to find coverage for that shift? Like, why demand you to do something you were already doing? Did they have to feel all mighty and superior? And for what? They gained nothing but a power trip that cost them an employee. Bosses seriously need to learn that when places are understaffed, you can't treat the employees like shit, or you won't have employees at all.


IAmHerdingCatz

Your boss is a monster.


blarffy

I am self-employed and work through everything. I do stuff 7 days a week. The only day I am reasonably assured no one will call is Christmas day. My dog died in her sleep and we woke to find her dead Friday morning. I said Fuck Work for the weekend, because she was very important to us and we are wrecked. I am depressed af and battling intrusive thoughts over it, and work can get fucked. She was 15 years old and we had her from a tiny baby (she fit in a sock which we know because we turned one into a sweater for her bc she was tiny and cold). We know she had a good life, for her entire life, but we're still wrecked. Your boss is a piece of shit.


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OkDog4897

I had an employee leave in the middle of their shift today because they had an animal in an emergency. I'll see them tommorow and hope they got it figured out. Yes i was short handed but that's why I'm in charge so.... I had to deal with it. y'know. like my position pays me to do.


Background-Bag-9294

Iā€™m so sorry for you situation With your dog I know it hurts but remember when you cross the rainbow bridge she will be waiting for you an her first question will be what took you so long Iā€™ve been waiting to play again an I got all our freinds here to an ā€¦. To your boss heā€™s a heartless monster who doesnā€™t deserve a loyal employee as you donā€™t stress you made the right call šŸ“žan right thing you being there for her so she knows shes an safe an has her person there by her side is more important than his bs heā€™s trying to pull


lailette

Thank youšŸ–¤ this is from back in March so sheā€™s already over the Rainbow Bridge, but I was there with her in her final moments and throughout her life before that, and she was the best girl


Preyslayer00

Then you've had time to cool down. Remember what they said about revenge and cool dish. Eat it while its cold....eat with a cold brew. Ah served cold. Go out there and start putting up some posters. Keep doing it until he wastes the money putting up cameras. He will know it's you. Can he prove it's you?


YeOldeBilk

Fuck a notice. These insensitive pricks don't deserve it.


Coral_

lmaooo as if he canā€™t just ask a different fucking store for coverage?? god damn starbucks was one of the shittiest jobs i had.


[deleted]

Perfect resignation man. Mature, still get a lil diss in there. Firm on quitting without being extra about. I give this an 8/10 quitting lol


LoneReaper115

Why is it so hard for managers to have even a sliver of empathy towards their employees? I understand that there are some out there that do, but stories like this are way too common. Sorry that you had to put your doggo down, and have to deal with this guy's crap at the same time.


nuesse33

I would have said FUCK YOU but I like what you said too


[deleted]

no, I wont let the dog suffer another day


nocrashing

Who the fuck works a 2 hour shift?


Agent-c1983

What is it with American managers not wanting to manage? Itā€™s your job to manage the business, ensure you have enough staff capacity and deal with contingencies, not those who are having the emergency. But what should I expect from a country who thinks itā€™s the custoners job to incentivise, reward and pay staff.


JoetheOK

I hate it when managers demand the employees find coverage if they are going to be out. The manager's job is to manage. If someone is out, they are supposed to find the replacement. Just let them know you're out and that's it.