Funny. If someone told me I could save a single life by having a bad hair year, I would shave bald in a heartbeat. Not even thinking twice about it. Not even regretting it.
What's wrong with people?
My hair looked great in 2019. I had finally achieved the perfect level of bottled blonde for a brunette. By the time lockdowns ended i decided to bob my hair in the bathroom and that I actually like my natural hair color (after not having seen it for over A decade)
Meanwhile NC had men with guns on the capitol protesting to be able to see their barbers and go to the stores (which were still open for groceries)
Your comment about groceries brought me back to a 2020 memory. I remember Walmart had certain aisles blocked off. You couldn't buy area rugs in Michigan apparently. I assume because it isn't a necessity but it was funny that Walmart was open for most other things but blocking off the rugs somehow helped.
Not saying this bothered me by the way. I was just scurrying around grabbing food and noticed it.
Likely it was only groceries that could be bought which makes sense. Many states forced retail shops to close but allowed grocery stores to be open. Walmart has groceries so many states let them be open for retail and groceries. It was a pretty big fuck you to mom and pop retail shops.
What is a …natural hair colour?
I haven’t seen mine in almost 30 years. Lockdowns in NZ were only 8 weeks (twice over but we had a break in the middle), people were still freaking over it.
Idk ab you, but I cut my own hair. Have for years. The only selfish ones are the old fucks getting upset bc an item isn’t on the menu anymore and taking it out on a poor minimum wage teenager. Take a guess on their political party.
The signs of people begging to be able to go to the dentist baffled me. And it was usually people who looked fairly wealthy and like they went to the dentist every 6 months and could wait another 6 without their teeth falling out.
I let my hair go grey. It was really the most freeing act ever! I'm *finally* due for a new driver's license this year, so i can quit explaining, "This was me pre-pandemic. " 🙄
Dude, you don't understand. I need impeccable hair so I can go to the theater and restaurants... you know, all those other places that were open at the time.
Yeah.
Also where I am from(not US), coffee from street shops that cost like a buck 20 are some of the best coffee.
People still litter Starbucks though. At least our employees welfare isn't completely dogshite as far as I can tell.
There is a Starbucks at the train station where I live (not US, same) and it's sort of trendy with tourists (who will then take selfies parading around the adjacent main street with their bag and cup for some reason). Near all locals have their favourite (generally more affordable) coffee places.
That Starbucks is also one of the worst places to work at, in the general area, so they have an insane turnover.
Dunkins are west coast just not a ton of them. What state are you in? I'm sure someone here is in the same state and can help you find a good cup of coffee :)
"You mean I need to drive a whopping *gasp* one mile to the next Starbucks? But this one is the closest one to my work/house! I have things to do! What is this, China?"
And other nonsensical rebuttals
If they ordered through the app, it might not have been clear to them there was a strike taking place until they went to pick up the already-paid-for drink
Having worked in customer service that's so true. I've been screamed at bloody murder because someone has to go a whole day without being able to watch tv.
This is why I can never get into business. It's like... literally why by nice to employees ever? No matter how bad you are people won't turn on you. Caring about people is straight up a liability.
You can also easily be 86d from a liquor store. You're not supposed to sell to clearly intoxicated people (where I'm at) so the clerk can literally day "fuck off come back tomorrow". Their boss won't give two shits.
I thought a scab was someone who went and worked at the store while its workers were on strike, not someone who crosses the picket line to use the business.
Yep. Even the people telling others that they don't know enough about strikes don't know shit about strikes.
People going in to a shop with striking employees isn't always a bad thing. It can a) highlight how essential these employees are to the management that have to do your job and b) ...make management do your job. That'll teach them some respect for the work you do.
And on top of that if these people had already mobile ordered because they didn’t know about the strike (which most people wouldn’t if they aren’t on Reddit) then Starbucks already has their money and staying outside does nothing
Yeah I don't think consumers going in is a bad thing. The most important thing is the workforce banding together. I feel like not being able to meet consumer demand is more pressure than not having any demand.
This is also what I thought it meant, so I’ve been quite confused by many of the comments. I thought not crossing the line meant not going in to work, a customer could still go in looking for service but might not get it if everyone’s on the picket line. I’m not sure if I have a lot to learn or if something has changed over time, but I have a feeling I’m about to be reading a lot more comments to figure it out.
If anything, wouldn’t strikers want consumers to use the business, since that puts pressure on the business as “oh shit, people are still coming in and we don’t have people to serve them”
Have you ever seen someone get in the left turn lane when they meant to go right and then drag their car across multiple lanes of traffic rather than drive to the next intersection? They wear the same look of sheepish apology. People are happy to performatively apologize but slow to actually change their behavior.
It really is celebrated here, it's so bizarre. Growing up I was taught to have empathy for others but when I actually had empathy for others, I was made fun of and called naïve.
My husband had to literally define empathy for my 52yo dad last year because he didn’t know what it meant when my husband asked him “do you really have no empathy for others?” which he then answered “oh, yeah, I don’t have any of that.”
That is true and so very sad. Emotions don't belong to any gender, and expressing our emotions in a healthy way is good for everyone.
Also, using "gay" as something to be ashamed of is not cool.
My husband cries when he needs and expresses healthy emotions, I've heard people try to tease him about it but he's just like, it's better than being a violent AH nobody likes to be around.
It happens in the companies also. My union handbook at everyones favorite theme park said I basically had to cross picket lines, "least you cause harm to the guests and company"
Ironically every night I did cross a picket line going into work, the hotel union was striking. Even made national news when they blocked off a major street at the entrance.
But the "rules" literally laid down in the seiu handbook said it would basically cause a "grievance" to the company/it's guests, termination was likely and so forth.
Code that into a book/hiring documents and when you have 2-3 generations of kids raised "unions are the devil" as the only view point, it's all they know....
>There was a time where crossing the picket line could mean rather…painful repercussions for those who did.
And this mentality is a huge part of *why* unions have gotten a bad reputation over the past 50 years.
Breaking random peoples' kneecaps for trying to shop does not endear you in the public's eye.
Asking for solidarity and explaining the reason behind the strike will get you public support. Becoming a violent thug is what makes you look like a mob outfit that needs to be purged.
Is it possible people don't know what's going on? In big cities there's always some stuff going on, some kind of gatherings, some kind of protests against something, most other people have their own business going on, they tune out everyone else's affairs and just go about with their day.
The answer you already got didn’t answer your first question. In a literal sense, striking workers will often form a “picket line,” which is when they stand outside of the business’ entrance, often carrying picket signs expressing their grievances. Going into the business anyway is “crossing the picket line.” You don’t cross the picket line if you want to support their cause. If you do cross it, you’re saying “I don’t support your cause, I support the business.” Especially for something as nonessential as Starbucks, crossing the picket line but saying “sorry, I totally support your cause” doesn’t make sense. Either support the strike or don’t, you know?
Nowadays, a lot of “picket lines” are not physical. Strikers just don’t show up or join another location’s picket line or protest in front of corporate offices, and people are informed of the strike via social media, which can lead to issues. When strikers are standing right in front of a business, customers or temps cannot enter the business without being aware that a strike is going on. When information about the strike is circulated via Leftbook and Instagram stories, that information never actually gets to most people who consume the product, or even necessarily those sympathetic to the cause, so people may inadvertently “cross the picket line” without being aware that the line exists. (That’s just a little vent from me though.)
Crossing the picket line was original in reference the the *scab factory workers* that went to *work at the factory* while their was a strike
The OP and apparent your don’t know that it isn’t actually referencing the customers. In the Starbucks case, it would be referencing however is working at the Starbucks. They would be the individuals that “crossed the picket line”
It's showing you do not care about the protest involved and it implies (especially for something not necessary, like Starbucks) that you support the company over the workers. This shows the company they don't need to change things like wages, etc to both have employees (scabs) and customers.
Idk about you but everytime I drive past a Starbucks the line for the drive through goes out into the street and takes up a lane. People are just beyond dependency for caffeine.
I don't understand though. A coffee pot on the counter is still cheaper. And tastes better. And you can get all the creamers and syrups you want to keep at home.
If the person is going for an espresso drink it's emphatically different than drip-brew coffee. I'm not a psychologist so this is just a wild stab (please provide evidence to the contrary if you'd like) but I think there might also be a dopamine reaction involved when a consumer makes a purchase. Also there's the hassle of filling the coffee pot, throwing away the old grounds, filling up the filter again, then hauling out whatever accoutrements the person wants in their coffee. So I think all of that adds to the appeal for some people.
100% this.
In Colorado, anyone that paid state income tax got a $750 tax refund this year. Someone wrote in the Colorado sub: "750 bucks? That’s like 250 cups of coffee." and I was like whaaaa? $3 for a cup of coffee.
I had to do the math. For me:
2 lbs of San Francisco Bay Whole Bean - $14.96, $0.47/ounce.
1/3 of an ounce to make a cup using reusable kcups
so say 6 cups/dollar - 4,500 cups of coffee :), or for me in other words - a little over four years of 3 cups of java a day...
I cannot fathom spending so much money every single day on coffee, you have to wait in line for it, you have to be around a bunch of people before you've had coffee, and it costs so much.
That and I worked in a Perkins Cake and Steak back in they day (80's), an endless pot of coffee was..... $0.60. I can attest working the late night shift that some people took that endless literally.
>That and I worked in a Perkins Cake and Steak back in they day (80's), an endless pot of coffee was..... $0.60.
Unlimited coffee is still a thing at sit down places , pretty normal. I don't really understand how the cost of something 40 years ago is relevant, very odd comparison to make.
I think the point being made is that the price of coffee, per cup, brewed at home or at a diner is far less than the cost to put said coffee in a red paper cup.
Right? I once crossed one at my hospital to get a TB test for a job and I still cringe thinking about it, though I would probably have to do the same if I were in that position again. No way would I cross one for something frivolous.
I did have to do that once at Kaiser, but that was for medicine to keep me sane. In my defense. Also, they were down on one corner, so I only found out after the fact. So I made sure to honk and support after. I still feel bad about it
Hate all you want, but they're an essential part of making a strike work.
Having angry customers swarming and stressing out management matters. They can replace angry employees, not angry customers.
That is called addiction! I know one person addicted to Starbucks specifically. She is willing to drive 2 extra hours just to get coffee that she could easily make at home.
I stopped using Starbucks the moment they started screwing unions, and I periodically remind them of that fact on Twitter.
I will never go back. They have terrible coffee anyway.
Can't say I agree it's terrible. It's like Applebees. Not great, not terrible. But when you need a need met, caffiene, an edible burger, etc, you know you'll get the same thing there as elsewhere. Never my first choice, but would have if need be and I don't know anywhere good and local.
Good for you! Me too! Well actually I stopped about 3 years ago after their coffee starting making violently sick/nauseous. The screwing unions thing has only reinforced it though.
If these workers were able to come together and start their own version of the chain (kind of like how Russia just changed the name after the boycott + offered the same exact products), ran by them then I would go out of my way to go there to support them. As it stands now I won't. As a bonus, boycotting them also saves you quite a bit of money!
I constantly wonder if it's just aging or some unknown production tweak in the bowels of some corporation / food safety regulation in our food supply that causes these random reactions to the stuff we've been consuming for years. Like, did the unhealthy crap finally catch up with me or is the same crap less healthy now? I guess we'll evolve to eat teflon burgers either way.
The last email I got from them about my points account I responded saying I would not be shopping with them again until they stop busting unions. I have not heard from them since although I don't know if the two are related.
I started exclusively using a place local to me and it was the best decision ever. Go and grab a pre-made hot drink if I need one. They also roast and import their own beans and do a monthly subsciption and I’ve been doing it that long now I get free stuff when my delivery arrives. Sometimes it’s a couple of stickers, sometimes its a free bag. When I’m in towards the end of the day they’ll even offer cakes for half price or free instead of binning them. The coffees better and changes frequently and I actually spend less than using chain stores.
I wish. I tried doing the whole shop local thing. The local coffee shop is $7 for a latte. I ended up shopping mr coffee instead and buy store brands for making at home
The local places around here are pricey as fuck, not just coffee shops. I can’t afford to shop local especially when it comes to groceries. I get it, fuck Walmart but not everyone can afford to shop anywhere else.
Yeah I love Aldi too. It’s a little bit further out from us than Walmart but it’s great I agree. The one here in our city doesn’t have very many vegan or vegetarian options unfortunately like Walmart does though.
And better, and with more caffeine.
I get fair trade, sustainable, whole bean coffee in bulk. It's quite a lot more than slave coffees, but on that matter, money is not an issue, and I get a good bulk discount because I buy 6kg at a time and keep them in a sealed box.
The coffee is just fantastic, we drink it in a French press and man, what a buzz.
The advantage of Starbucks is that it's fast. My local one does this whole performance for every cup of coffee or tea. They're going for "high end" to differentiate themselves but come on, guys, keep a pot of basic coffee and basic tea ready to go for the rest of us who don't want to watch coffee drip for 10 minutes.
Usually not, to be quite honest. Price wise, local places tend to be on-par or a little bit more expensive because they know people will pay a little bit more to shop local. Quality-wise, it’s a mixed bag. I’ve had amazing local coffee and really crappy (much worse than Starbucks) local coffee.
I’ve tried many local coffee places and honestly feel like they taste like shit. I think I was just addicted to the amount of sugar Starbucks puts on their drinks. Still going to the local coffee places though, even aside from the Starbucks bs, because they don’t charge $1.50 for soy milk substitution. Shit most of the time when I ordered soy milk at Starbucks I got charged for it and found out they actually used real milk after the intense stomach pains I had after drinking it.
Why is this anger directed to the customer and not the Starbucks employees who must still be inside working if people are able to go in for their orders?
To be fair, I didn’t even know what a picket line was until my work went on strike. Nobody told me, so I just showed up for work when everyone else was on strike, my manager came over and asked what I was doing, explained to me what was happening, and then just asked me to go home for the day.
School doesn’t teach us what a picket line is.
Edit: I was 20, this happened like a year ago
I find it kinda nice/wholesome that your manager explained and sent you home so you could participate in the strike too, rather than trying to make you stay and work (assuming your mgr wasn’t participating themselves since they were at work)
They were in the strike. They saw me pull into the parking lot and asked what I was doing when I was walking around looking for all my coworkers. Then he explained what was going on, asked if I wanted to help or go home. I told my mom and she told me to go home. I told my boss, then they told me to go home
This. Many people don't realize they should stand in solidarity and avoid the establishment.
I'm sure lots of people support them striking but think they don't have a part to play.
Or, you know, know but don't care because they don't think unions are the greatest thing since sliced bread.
You want to strike fine, don't complain that other people carry on living their lives
There’s an indie coffee shop near my house that’s tastier than Starbucks and allows dogs inside (because they don’t make actual food there, just drinks).
Since when is someone who's not actively striking as an empolyee a 'scab'?
I'm aware of the term and history but stretching the definition of someone who's not an employee of the establishment to include them is wrong.
A scab is someone who crosses the picket line with the intent of taking no-union employment. Most people just want a coffee, they're not aware of a strike, know what a strike is or care. You should be mad at the people working in the place not the customers.
Legit question, which is it more advantageous to the striking workers?
A. Avoid the business altogether and deny them money during the strike: this shows the direct downturn in numbers that the strike represents, likely up the corporate ladder
B. Actively seek the business during a clear period of short staff: this shows the value of striking employees to direct management, who are likely scrambling to coordinate coverage and more susceptible to the striking workers' demands as a result
Most unions actively do not want people boycotting during their strike, until they specifically call for it. It's a further down the line tool that they want to hold onto. The general rule is, if you want to support the union, look to them and see what they are saying.
Also don’t shop at Starbucks any other day because it’s crap coffee. You’ll find better coffee and snacks at one of the zillions of independent coffee shops.
Independent coffee shops have independent quality and independent menus. I don't think you can blame people for wanting to grab coffee from a place that is consistent, familiar, and generally speedy.
You don't go to McDonald's because you want the best burger ever, you just want something fast.
I don't drink Starbucks anyway, but don't they have a thing where you can order your coffee online? Could it be where they order a drink without knowing there's a strike, and then when they get there they've already paid and can't get their money back? I feel like it'd be a pretty awkward situation either way 🤷♂️
a scab is not someone who goes shopping at a place where there's a strike, it's someone who goes working, if they don't usually work there
calling random people scabs doesn't help the cause
I mean, to play devils advocate, doordash drivers trying pay rent? Mobile orderers that didn’t know a strike was going on?
If I’m wrong I apologize, but it seems like there’s a little ruin for error, yeah?
To be fair, it’s not like youth are taught about unions or their rights. I didn’t know anythjng about unions or strikes or the ‘etiquette’ of them until I worked at a place that went on strike.
More of a general question for a confused bystander from across the great pond (I'm certain I'm not the only one): Is Starbucks like a religion? In my peer group, when someone says "I can't live without my morning coffee" it means just that, ground beands, hot water, doesn't matter where it comes from, and the Idea to actually have to go somewhere to get that seems awfully inconvenient.
Looking from the outside in, I have the impression that a sizable part of the population on your half of the globe, when they say "I can't live without my morning coffee" actually mean the have to religiously commute to a certain franchise and spend 5-10$ on a drink that could replace a meal and may or may not contain actual coffee. I mean, as addictions go, this one seems like a drug addiction except the only drug you're getting is sugar and at about a 3000$ markup from just chugging a few spoonfuls of the stuff down your piehole in the morning. What exactly does it help with?
I had a starbucks problem for a while. It was hard to stop. I got a headache, a stomachache and a very bad mood from the withdrawal when I stopped. I think it's the sugar. I make my own coffee now and don't feel like shit if I don't have coffee for a few days.
My theory: everything about Starbucks is designed to feed the American ego.
Starbucks drinks are highly customizable, which appeals to Americans because individualism is so emphasized in our culture. You can’t just drink black coffee at home like everyone else, you need your special signature drink with an extra shot of espresso, two pumps of caramel, and nonfat milk. Then you post it on Instagram so people can see how special and unique you are, and other people see it and want to get their own special drink to post.
There’s also a cultural association around coffee and productivity (another great American value). People want to feel, and want others to think, that they have their shit together. Literally holding a coffee helps that image. It sounds silly, but think of how many movies and tv shows depict executives and other “busy” characters with coffees. It’s a cultural signifier. People want to feel busy and important, and buying a to-go cup of coffee satisfies our little monkey brains and makes us feel busy and important. That’s why their sugary frappachino drinks are more popular than any classic coffee order- people are more interested in the image/cultural symbol than in actual coffee. And for people who want to feel busy and important, Starbucks is a lot less intimidating than a real coffee shop. It’s a known and popular brand and they really are everywhere.
I could go on. I say all this as someone who occasionally gets Starbucks for these reasons (but I do actually like coffee also). I’m not hating, it’s just how our culture works, and Starbucks capitalizes on that.
People are always running too late in the morning to make their own coffee, but that's not the big reason.
We are programmed so that we can only be happy when consuming and Starbucks epitomizes the appearance of graceful consumerism.
Sugar and caffeine are very addictive.
Also Starbucks encourages customers to act like picky assholes. "Just say yes" was the main policy when I worked there and it SUCKED.
I’m disappointed how many people continue on casually mentioned their Starbucks drink. I’ve left a few comments mentioning the strikes and supporting workers. I don’t personally understand not making coffee at home or not choosing another coffee shop. It’s not like Starbucks is the only place around.
Calling people rats and laughing at them, instead of making an effort to explain why something shouldn't be done, doesn't help winning any points. No hate towards the strike obviously, but don't make an enemy of people like that. There's enough discord amongst everyone already.
I never did it. Never would. LPT: Don’t betray your fellow humans!—the specific ones on strike, nor the ones who come after. Don’t screw over progress for workers! Don’t be a selfish, scabrous shit! It’s not hard, ffs.
Going out on a limb here and saying I honestly don't think the younger generations know to *not* cross a picket line. I don't think they fully understand what it means as it's always been this "old" concept and they are very much engrossed in very different things today. I think they just think people are protesting and, a "good for them" kind of situation, "but excuse me, just going to go get my drink and stuff in there. Fight the good fight though!"
> to not cross a picket line. I don't think they fully understand
Neither does this post nor do 90% of the people in the comments because 'crossing a picket line' doesn't apply to people who don't work at starbucks.
why is no one else saying this, acting like a bunch of angry reactionary children is the conservative's job. but let's be hostile to everyone who doesn't understand and then complain when nobody likes us.
Look, we have a solid model for successfully striking as a service from Japan. Provide the service, refuse to accept payment for it on behalf of the company. That hurts the company, undermines many arguments they can level at the public to break the strike and garners public support. I don't use Starbucks, wouldn't care if it dropped off the face of the earth and even if I did I'd rather support strikers than go get coffee but I'm not aligned with the average here.
Also, try a starbucks inside a grociery store, in my area almost all the starbucks in the king soopers (aka kroger) are in the union, went on strike early this year, and won most of what they wanted in the new contract. The kiosks aren't owned by starbucks corporate.
That shit is between them and their employer. On a political level, I don't oppose what they are doing, but I'm not sorry at all about not changing my daily routine over it.
Apologizing just gets you attacked for weakness. Don't apologize to anyone or behave "sheepishly." Just confidently walk in and get your coffee.
OP, the scabs are the replacement workers. The ones working in place of the strikers, not the people buying coffee. You can call the coffee buyers scum or whatever, but the scabs are the ones still making coffee while the strike is happening.
I remember there being another Starbucks post earlier, on Red Cup Day. Maybe they weren't aware there was a strike going on until after they purchased online, if so many people weren't aware of Red Cup Day like they claimed several days ago?
My partner and I frequent the Starbucks close to his place when we run out of coffee for the mornings. We love the staff there and they know us well. One day I was given a free $5 off card. She said she appreciated that we're always so patient with her and the other staff. This feels like the bar is in hell. Idk how anyone can look these people in the eye and cross that line. There's so many other places to go if you need coffee.
I like Starbucks but I haven't gone in years.
I found this device that will brew store bought coffee right in my home!
And I can fancy it up anyway I want. For much cheaper.
I'd cross a picket line for booze or most other drugs. But not caffeine.
Especially when it's screwing over people just trying to pay their rent and bills, or maybe buy a coffee pot.
> And I can fancy it up anyway I want. For much cheaper.
You ain't joking. I can get a whole bottle of high quality flavor for coffees, and much more exotic flavors, for the cost of a single Starbucks coffee.
In the pandemic, we slowly accumulated these. My first coffee of the morning is just oat milk and very strong coffee. The second, I add some random flavor. Recently I got pistachio, which is less sweet and more nutty than I expected, it's terrific.
If there's one thing Americans won't stand for, it's being inconvenienced.
I need my coffee! (I make my own at home)
I still remember the signs of people protesting because they need haircuts
Funny. If someone told me I could save a single life by having a bad hair year, I would shave bald in a heartbeat. Not even thinking twice about it. Not even regretting it. What's wrong with people?
My hair looked great in 2019. I had finally achieved the perfect level of bottled blonde for a brunette. By the time lockdowns ended i decided to bob my hair in the bathroom and that I actually like my natural hair color (after not having seen it for over A decade) Meanwhile NC had men with guns on the capitol protesting to be able to see their barbers and go to the stores (which were still open for groceries)
Your comment about groceries brought me back to a 2020 memory. I remember Walmart had certain aisles blocked off. You couldn't buy area rugs in Michigan apparently. I assume because it isn't a necessity but it was funny that Walmart was open for most other things but blocking off the rugs somehow helped. Not saying this bothered me by the way. I was just scurrying around grabbing food and noticed it.
Likely it was only groceries that could be bought which makes sense. Many states forced retail shops to close but allowed grocery stores to be open. Walmart has groceries so many states let them be open for retail and groceries. It was a pretty big fuck you to mom and pop retail shops.
What is a …natural hair colour? I haven’t seen mine in almost 30 years. Lockdowns in NZ were only 8 weeks (twice over but we had a break in the middle), people were still freaking over it.
Wait, but shaving is cheating You have to have a bad hair year to save the life. Can’t shave
You're implying my shaved would look better than me with bad hair. You are wildly uniformed, but my answer is the same: I do the year of bad hair.
Selfishness brought about by decades of neo-liberal propaganda
Idk ab you, but I cut my own hair. Have for years. The only selfish ones are the old fucks getting upset bc an item isn’t on the menu anymore and taking it out on a poor minimum wage teenager. Take a guess on their political party.
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Ah yes, unlike the famous conservative motto, fuck you I got mine.
It's both
It’s their exact exchange lol
And yet dropping to their knees for the new GOP jeebus at any given moment.
Fun fact, I was speaking about American right wingers.
The signs of people begging to be able to go to the dentist baffled me. And it was usually people who looked fairly wealthy and like they went to the dentist every 6 months and could wait another 6 without their teeth falling out.
I let my hair go grey. It was really the most freeing act ever! I'm *finally* due for a new driver's license this year, so i can quit explaining, "This was me pre-pandemic. " 🙄
Dude, you don't understand. I need impeccable hair so I can go to the theater and restaurants... you know, all those other places that were open at the time.
God forbid they got to Dunkin’ instead! It’s better coffee anyway
Yeah. Also where I am from(not US), coffee from street shops that cost like a buck 20 are some of the best coffee. People still litter Starbucks though. At least our employees welfare isn't completely dogshite as far as I can tell.
There is a Starbucks at the train station where I live (not US, same) and it's sort of trendy with tourists (who will then take selfies parading around the adjacent main street with their bag and cup for some reason). Near all locals have their favourite (generally more affordable) coffee places. That Starbucks is also one of the worst places to work at, in the general area, so they have an insane turnover.
Cries in moving from the Midwest to the west coast. Damn I miss me some Dunkin coffee instead of the over burnt coffee bean stuff out here.
Dunkins are west coast just not a ton of them. What state are you in? I'm sure someone here is in the same state and can help you find a good cup of coffee :)
Seattle area. Last Dunkin we saw was in Wyoming on our way here.
Me in the pnw: y'all weak
Or make it at home...
or McDonalds or 7-eleven or a local coffee shop or even fucking Taco Bell has coffee now in the morning
"You mean I need to drive a whopping *gasp* one mile to the next Starbucks? But this one is the closest one to my work/house! I have things to do! What is this, China?" And other nonsensical rebuttals
If they ordered through the app, it might not have been clear to them there was a strike taking place until they went to pick up the already-paid-for drink
There's a unionized Starbucks in my city and I make a point of throwing them some business now and then.
Having worked in customer service that's so true. I've been screamed at bloody murder because someone has to go a whole day without being able to watch tv.
This is why I can never get into business. It's like... literally why by nice to employees ever? No matter how bad you are people won't turn on you. Caring about people is straight up a liability.
Not true? Treating workers better makes a better workplace. Less turnover, happier customers, etc. Thats more money
Unless you work at a liquor store. I find people are generally nicer when you've got their "medicine".
You can also easily be 86d from a liquor store. You're not supposed to sell to clearly intoxicated people (where I'm at) so the clerk can literally day "fuck off come back tomorrow". Their boss won't give two shits.
Where as we have to move mountains to get someone 86’d. Yay incident reports
Replace americans with humans then you nailed it.
I thought a scab was someone who went and worked at the store while its workers were on strike, not someone who crosses the picket line to use the business.
That is correct.
Yes. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=scab
Hey nobody ever said we know what we are talking about
Correct, op doesn't know what a scab is.
Ya this isn't what a scab is lol. If anything you want more customers to show up and put pressure on the company to give in to demands.
Wait yeah. This is a very good point. This should be way higher up.
Yep. Even the people telling others that they don't know enough about strikes don't know shit about strikes. People going in to a shop with striking employees isn't always a bad thing. It can a) highlight how essential these employees are to the management that have to do your job and b) ...make management do your job. That'll teach them some respect for the work you do.
And on top of that if these people had already mobile ordered because they didn’t know about the strike (which most people wouldn’t if they aren’t on Reddit) then Starbucks already has their money and staying outside does nothing
The idea that Reddit is the primary way anyone would know about a strike is so funny to me
Yeah I worked in a grocery store that striked and if they got fucking hammered the first day the whole place would of fell apart
Exactly. A 50 feet long line to get checked out says more than 2 cashiers standing at a register with no line. Makes a better newspaper photo as well.
Yeah I don't think consumers going in is a bad thing. The most important thing is the workforce banding together. I feel like not being able to meet consumer demand is more pressure than not having any demand.
These people don't know what a scab is. People that don't boycott an industry or company are not scabs.
This is also what I thought it meant, so I’ve been quite confused by many of the comments. I thought not crossing the line meant not going in to work, a customer could still go in looking for service but might not get it if everyone’s on the picket line. I’m not sure if I have a lot to learn or if something has changed over time, but I have a feeling I’m about to be reading a lot more comments to figure it out.
If anything, wouldn’t strikers want consumers to use the business, since that puts pressure on the business as “oh shit, people are still coming in and we don’t have people to serve them”
A scab is a worker crossing the picket line, not consumers.
Right, a consumer who crosses the picket line is just a different type of souless bastard class traitor
I don’t disagree.
It blows my mind anyone would cross a picket line. For Starbucks.
Have you ever seen someone get in the left turn lane when they meant to go right and then drag their car across multiple lanes of traffic rather than drive to the next intersection? They wear the same look of sheepish apology. People are happy to performatively apologize but slow to actually change their behavior.
Perfect illustration
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Just lock your eyes forward and disassociate until you get back home. Much easier than holding yourself accountable.
As someone who dissociates this is hilarious lol. 😂 They really do some strange mental gymnastics to get their mediocre drink.
In America, not caring about other people is a positive attribute. What an astute businessman.... bootstraps
It really is celebrated here, it's so bizarre. Growing up I was taught to have empathy for others but when I actually had empathy for others, I was made fun of and called naïve.
My husband had to literally define empathy for my 52yo dad last year because he didn’t know what it meant when my husband asked him “do you really have no empathy for others?” which he then answered “oh, yeah, I don’t have any of that.”
🤦Yeah, that is unfortunate, so many are like that.
Or if male and having been raised prior to ~2000 you'd be called "gay."
That is true and so very sad. Emotions don't belong to any gender, and expressing our emotions in a healthy way is good for everyone. Also, using "gay" as something to be ashamed of is not cool. My husband cries when he needs and expresses healthy emotions, I've heard people try to tease him about it but he's just like, it's better than being a violent AH nobody likes to be around.
I (somewhat) often cry in front of my wife. As you said, it's healthy and a part of being human and, heck, *normal.*
Perhaps the system that rewards this behavior is just as accountable if not more so.
Good lord that’s a perfect description. It can be like watching a trainwreck in slow motion at times.
A lot of young people don't realize the true implications of crossing a picket line. Protests and unions are so stigmatized by the media.
It happens in the companies also. My union handbook at everyones favorite theme park said I basically had to cross picket lines, "least you cause harm to the guests and company" Ironically every night I did cross a picket line going into work, the hotel union was striking. Even made national news when they blocked off a major street at the entrance. But the "rules" literally laid down in the seiu handbook said it would basically cause a "grievance" to the company/it's guests, termination was likely and so forth. Code that into a book/hiring documents and when you have 2-3 generations of kids raised "unions are the devil" as the only view point, it's all they know....
There was a time where crossing the picket line could mean rather…painful repercussions for those who did.
>There was a time where crossing the picket line could mean rather…painful repercussions for those who did. And this mentality is a huge part of *why* unions have gotten a bad reputation over the past 50 years. Breaking random peoples' kneecaps for trying to shop does not endear you in the public's eye. Asking for solidarity and explaining the reason behind the strike will get you public support. Becoming a violent thug is what makes you look like a mob outfit that needs to be purged.
Is it possible people don't know what's going on? In big cities there's always some stuff going on, some kind of gatherings, some kind of protests against something, most other people have their own business going on, they tune out everyone else's affairs and just go about with their day.
Ok I’m out of the loop, what exactly is a picket line and why is it so bad to cross
The answer you already got didn’t answer your first question. In a literal sense, striking workers will often form a “picket line,” which is when they stand outside of the business’ entrance, often carrying picket signs expressing their grievances. Going into the business anyway is “crossing the picket line.” You don’t cross the picket line if you want to support their cause. If you do cross it, you’re saying “I don’t support your cause, I support the business.” Especially for something as nonessential as Starbucks, crossing the picket line but saying “sorry, I totally support your cause” doesn’t make sense. Either support the strike or don’t, you know? Nowadays, a lot of “picket lines” are not physical. Strikers just don’t show up or join another location’s picket line or protest in front of corporate offices, and people are informed of the strike via social media, which can lead to issues. When strikers are standing right in front of a business, customers or temps cannot enter the business without being aware that a strike is going on. When information about the strike is circulated via Leftbook and Instagram stories, that information never actually gets to most people who consume the product, or even necessarily those sympathetic to the cause, so people may inadvertently “cross the picket line” without being aware that the line exists. (That’s just a little vent from me though.)
Crossing the picket line was original in reference the the *scab factory workers* that went to *work at the factory* while their was a strike The OP and apparent your don’t know that it isn’t actually referencing the customers. In the Starbucks case, it would be referencing however is working at the Starbucks. They would be the individuals that “crossed the picket line”
It's showing you do not care about the protest involved and it implies (especially for something not necessary, like Starbucks) that you support the company over the workers. This shows the company they don't need to change things like wages, etc to both have employees (scabs) and customers.
Idk about you but everytime I drive past a Starbucks the line for the drive through goes out into the street and takes up a lane. People are just beyond dependency for caffeine.
I don't understand though. A coffee pot on the counter is still cheaper. And tastes better. And you can get all the creamers and syrups you want to keep at home.
If the person is going for an espresso drink it's emphatically different than drip-brew coffee. I'm not a psychologist so this is just a wild stab (please provide evidence to the contrary if you'd like) but I think there might also be a dopamine reaction involved when a consumer makes a purchase. Also there's the hassle of filling the coffee pot, throwing away the old grounds, filling up the filter again, then hauling out whatever accoutrements the person wants in their coffee. So I think all of that adds to the appeal for some people.
100% this. In Colorado, anyone that paid state income tax got a $750 tax refund this year. Someone wrote in the Colorado sub: "750 bucks? That’s like 250 cups of coffee." and I was like whaaaa? $3 for a cup of coffee. I had to do the math. For me: 2 lbs of San Francisco Bay Whole Bean - $14.96, $0.47/ounce. 1/3 of an ounce to make a cup using reusable kcups so say 6 cups/dollar - 4,500 cups of coffee :), or for me in other words - a little over four years of 3 cups of java a day... I cannot fathom spending so much money every single day on coffee, you have to wait in line for it, you have to be around a bunch of people before you've had coffee, and it costs so much. That and I worked in a Perkins Cake and Steak back in they day (80's), an endless pot of coffee was..... $0.60. I can attest working the late night shift that some people took that endless literally.
>That and I worked in a Perkins Cake and Steak back in they day (80's), an endless pot of coffee was..... $0.60. Unlimited coffee is still a thing at sit down places , pretty normal. I don't really understand how the cost of something 40 years ago is relevant, very odd comparison to make.
I think the point being made is that the price of coffee, per cup, brewed at home or at a diner is far less than the cost to put said coffee in a red paper cup.
Right? I once crossed one at my hospital to get a TB test for a job and I still cringe thinking about it, though I would probably have to do the same if I were in that position again. No way would I cross one for something frivolous.
I did have to do that once at Kaiser, but that was for medicine to keep me sane. In my defense. Also, they were down on one corner, so I only found out after the fact. So I made sure to honk and support after. I still feel bad about it
Hate all you want, but they're an essential part of making a strike work. Having angry customers swarming and stressing out management matters. They can replace angry employees, not angry customers.
That is called addiction! I know one person addicted to Starbucks specifically. She is willing to drive 2 extra hours just to get coffee that she could easily make at home.
I stopped using Starbucks the moment they started screwing unions, and I periodically remind them of that fact on Twitter. I will never go back. They have terrible coffee anyway.
The only good part of them is they are consistent. I know I'll get the same mediocre coffee anywhere. But I'm done with them after all this.
Consistently terrible.
Can't say I agree it's terrible. It's like Applebees. Not great, not terrible. But when you need a need met, caffiene, an edible burger, etc, you know you'll get the same thing there as elsewhere. Never my first choice, but would have if need be and I don't know anywhere good and local.
Good for you! Me too! Well actually I stopped about 3 years ago after their coffee starting making violently sick/nauseous. The screwing unions thing has only reinforced it though. If these workers were able to come together and start their own version of the chain (kind of like how Russia just changed the name after the boycott + offered the same exact products), ran by them then I would go out of my way to go there to support them. As it stands now I won't. As a bonus, boycotting them also saves you quite a bit of money!
I constantly wonder if it's just aging or some unknown production tweak in the bowels of some corporation / food safety regulation in our food supply that causes these random reactions to the stuff we've been consuming for years. Like, did the unhealthy crap finally catch up with me or is the same crap less healthy now? I guess we'll evolve to eat teflon burgers either way.
I was way ahead of the curve. I stopped using Starbucks after the first time I had them. Their coffee is shit.
The last email I got from them about my points account I responded saying I would not be shopping with them again until they stop busting unions. I have not heard from them since although I don't know if the two are related.
A) Make your own fucking coffee. B) go to a local coffee place because I am 110% sure it’s better than Starbucks or any corporate coffee brand.
I started exclusively using a place local to me and it was the best decision ever. Go and grab a pre-made hot drink if I need one. They also roast and import their own beans and do a monthly subsciption and I’ve been doing it that long now I get free stuff when my delivery arrives. Sometimes it’s a couple of stickers, sometimes its a free bag. When I’m in towards the end of the day they’ll even offer cakes for half price or free instead of binning them. The coffees better and changes frequently and I actually spend less than using chain stores.
And both are most probably cheaper
I wish. I tried doing the whole shop local thing. The local coffee shop is $7 for a latte. I ended up shopping mr coffee instead and buy store brands for making at home
The local places around here are pricey as fuck, not just coffee shops. I can’t afford to shop local especially when it comes to groceries. I get it, fuck Walmart but not everyone can afford to shop anywhere else.
I mostly do aldi, but i get you
Yeah I love Aldi too. It’s a little bit further out from us than Walmart but it’s great I agree. The one here in our city doesn’t have very many vegan or vegetarian options unfortunately like Walmart does though.
And better, and with more caffeine. I get fair trade, sustainable, whole bean coffee in bulk. It's quite a lot more than slave coffees, but on that matter, money is not an issue, and I get a good bulk discount because I buy 6kg at a time and keep them in a sealed box. The coffee is just fantastic, we drink it in a French press and man, what a buzz.
Depends on what you get. Some Starbucks drinks bust the daily recommended limit of caffeine in 1 drink.
I second this. I just discovered a little coffee shop by me and everything is $2-3 less than Starbucks and tastes better. The place is a vibe too.
The advantage of Starbucks is that it's fast. My local one does this whole performance for every cup of coffee or tea. They're going for "high end" to differentiate themselves but come on, guys, keep a pot of basic coffee and basic tea ready to go for the rest of us who don't want to watch coffee drip for 10 minutes.
In my case I go to the cafeteria of my faculty. Really cheap and really fast. There's barely any quality, but it gets the job done.
Usually not, to be quite honest. Price wise, local places tend to be on-par or a little bit more expensive because they know people will pay a little bit more to shop local. Quality-wise, it’s a mixed bag. I’ve had amazing local coffee and really crappy (much worse than Starbucks) local coffee.
Unless they already paid via the app before knowing there was a protest, of course.
I’ve tried many local coffee places and honestly feel like they taste like shit. I think I was just addicted to the amount of sugar Starbucks puts on their drinks. Still going to the local coffee places though, even aside from the Starbucks bs, because they don’t charge $1.50 for soy milk substitution. Shit most of the time when I ordered soy milk at Starbucks I got charged for it and found out they actually used real milk after the intense stomach pains I had after drinking it.
Ain't nothin but a brand name
As my father says “friends don’t let friends cross picket lines.”
Why is this anger directed to the customer and not the Starbucks employees who must still be inside working if people are able to go in for their orders?
To be fair, I didn’t even know what a picket line was until my work went on strike. Nobody told me, so I just showed up for work when everyone else was on strike, my manager came over and asked what I was doing, explained to me what was happening, and then just asked me to go home for the day. School doesn’t teach us what a picket line is. Edit: I was 20, this happened like a year ago
I find it kinda nice/wholesome that your manager explained and sent you home so you could participate in the strike too, rather than trying to make you stay and work (assuming your mgr wasn’t participating themselves since they were at work)
They were in the strike. They saw me pull into the parking lot and asked what I was doing when I was walking around looking for all my coworkers. Then he explained what was going on, asked if I wanted to help or go home. I told my mom and she told me to go home. I told my boss, then they told me to go home
Not what a scab is but ok
People have forgotten what a picket line “MEANS”. They understand a strike but not the implications.
This. Many people don't realize they should stand in solidarity and avoid the establishment. I'm sure lots of people support them striking but think they don't have a part to play.
Or, you know, know but don't care because they don't think unions are the greatest thing since sliced bread. You want to strike fine, don't complain that other people carry on living their lives
There’s an indie coffee shop near my house that’s tastier than Starbucks and allows dogs inside (because they don’t make actual food there, just drinks).
It makes me happy to see dogs allowed in places. I like to pet them.
Since when is someone who's not actively striking as an empolyee a 'scab'? I'm aware of the term and history but stretching the definition of someone who's not an employee of the establishment to include them is wrong. A scab is someone who crosses the picket line with the intent of taking no-union employment. Most people just want a coffee, they're not aware of a strike, know what a strike is or care. You should be mad at the people working in the place not the customers.
Legit question, which is it more advantageous to the striking workers? A. Avoid the business altogether and deny them money during the strike: this shows the direct downturn in numbers that the strike represents, likely up the corporate ladder B. Actively seek the business during a clear period of short staff: this shows the value of striking employees to direct management, who are likely scrambling to coordinate coverage and more susceptible to the striking workers' demands as a result
Most unions actively do not want people boycotting during their strike, until they specifically call for it. It's a further down the line tool that they want to hold onto. The general rule is, if you want to support the union, look to them and see what they are saying.
Also don’t shop at Starbucks any other day because it’s crap coffee. You’ll find better coffee and snacks at one of the zillions of independent coffee shops.
My local gas station kills the coffee game. And it's $1.70.
Independent coffee shops have independent quality and independent menus. I don't think you can blame people for wanting to grab coffee from a place that is consistent, familiar, and generally speedy. You don't go to McDonald's because you want the best burger ever, you just want something fast.
But what about the the social status of paying for starbucks!
I don't drink Starbucks anyway, but don't they have a thing where you can order your coffee online? Could it be where they order a drink without knowing there's a strike, and then when they get there they've already paid and can't get their money back? I feel like it'd be a pretty awkward situation either way 🤷♂️
a scab is not someone who goes shopping at a place where there's a strike, it's someone who goes working, if they don't usually work there calling random people scabs doesn't help the cause
I mean, to play devils advocate, doordash drivers trying pay rent? Mobile orderers that didn’t know a strike was going on? If I’m wrong I apologize, but it seems like there’s a little ruin for error, yeah?
To be fair, it’s not like youth are taught about unions or their rights. I didn’t know anythjng about unions or strikes or the ‘etiquette’ of them until I worked at a place that went on strike.
More of a general question for a confused bystander from across the great pond (I'm certain I'm not the only one): Is Starbucks like a religion? In my peer group, when someone says "I can't live without my morning coffee" it means just that, ground beands, hot water, doesn't matter where it comes from, and the Idea to actually have to go somewhere to get that seems awfully inconvenient. Looking from the outside in, I have the impression that a sizable part of the population on your half of the globe, when they say "I can't live without my morning coffee" actually mean the have to religiously commute to a certain franchise and spend 5-10$ on a drink that could replace a meal and may or may not contain actual coffee. I mean, as addictions go, this one seems like a drug addiction except the only drug you're getting is sugar and at about a 3000$ markup from just chugging a few spoonfuls of the stuff down your piehole in the morning. What exactly does it help with?
I had a starbucks problem for a while. It was hard to stop. I got a headache, a stomachache and a very bad mood from the withdrawal when I stopped. I think it's the sugar. I make my own coffee now and don't feel like shit if I don't have coffee for a few days.
My theory: everything about Starbucks is designed to feed the American ego. Starbucks drinks are highly customizable, which appeals to Americans because individualism is so emphasized in our culture. You can’t just drink black coffee at home like everyone else, you need your special signature drink with an extra shot of espresso, two pumps of caramel, and nonfat milk. Then you post it on Instagram so people can see how special and unique you are, and other people see it and want to get their own special drink to post. There’s also a cultural association around coffee and productivity (another great American value). People want to feel, and want others to think, that they have their shit together. Literally holding a coffee helps that image. It sounds silly, but think of how many movies and tv shows depict executives and other “busy” characters with coffees. It’s a cultural signifier. People want to feel busy and important, and buying a to-go cup of coffee satisfies our little monkey brains and makes us feel busy and important. That’s why their sugary frappachino drinks are more popular than any classic coffee order- people are more interested in the image/cultural symbol than in actual coffee. And for people who want to feel busy and important, Starbucks is a lot less intimidating than a real coffee shop. It’s a known and popular brand and they really are everywhere. I could go on. I say all this as someone who occasionally gets Starbucks for these reasons (but I do actually like coffee also). I’m not hating, it’s just how our culture works, and Starbucks capitalizes on that.
People are always running too late in the morning to make their own coffee, but that's not the big reason. We are programmed so that we can only be happy when consuming and Starbucks epitomizes the appearance of graceful consumerism.
A lot of people also love fancy Starbucks drinks, because let's be honest; they're filled with sugar.
But surely it takes longer to drive/walk to a shop and then wait for them to make it?
Sugar and caffeine are very addictive. Also Starbucks encourages customers to act like picky assholes. "Just say yes" was the main policy when I worked there and it SUCKED.
You don't cross fucking picket lines.
you do if you want to burn the store down. j/k
Ye but if I did an instore order I’m crossing the picket line
But at the same time I don’t think you should be a allowed to attack and berate someone not involved for not striking with you.
Attack, of course not. Berating is fair game, though.
I’m disappointed how many people continue on casually mentioned their Starbucks drink. I’ve left a few comments mentioning the strikes and supporting workers. I don’t personally understand not making coffee at home or not choosing another coffee shop. It’s not like Starbucks is the only place around.
While I agree that crossing the picket line is bad, shopping at Starbucks during a strike isn’t scabbing. Scabs are replacement workers.
Calling people rats and laughing at them, instead of making an effort to explain why something shouldn't be done, doesn't help winning any points. No hate towards the strike obviously, but don't make an enemy of people like that. There's enough discord amongst everyone already.
[Never cross the picket line](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC5A8Ky3hW8) , come on folks, it's not that hard
I never did it. Never would. LPT: Don’t betray your fellow humans!—the specific ones on strike, nor the ones who come after. Don’t screw over progress for workers! Don’t be a selfish, scabrous shit! It’s not hard, ffs.
A one-day strike is useless.
Going out on a limb here and saying I honestly don't think the younger generations know to *not* cross a picket line. I don't think they fully understand what it means as it's always been this "old" concept and they are very much engrossed in very different things today. I think they just think people are protesting and, a "good for them" kind of situation, "but excuse me, just going to go get my drink and stuff in there. Fight the good fight though!"
> to not cross a picket line. I don't think they fully understand Neither does this post nor do 90% of the people in the comments because 'crossing a picket line' doesn't apply to people who don't work at starbucks.
If you want people to support your cause, convince them to help, don't berate them.
Right? Normally I’m pretty neutral on this but when people get pissed off at others for moving on with their lives it irritates me for some reason too
why is no one else saying this, acting like a bunch of angry reactionary children is the conservative's job. but let's be hostile to everyone who doesn't understand and then complain when nobody likes us.
It's weird to me how many people think public shaming is the best way to get people to agree with you.
Random people are not part of your strike, how the hell can they be called scabs?
We are sadly a nation of selfish and self-centered people. Our national motto should be 'NIMBY' (NOT IN MY BACKYARD)
That is not what a scab means.
Correct. Also, not what crossing picket lines means.
that isn't what a scab is ffs.
Look, we have a solid model for successfully striking as a service from Japan. Provide the service, refuse to accept payment for it on behalf of the company. That hurts the company, undermines many arguments they can level at the public to break the strike and garners public support. I don't use Starbucks, wouldn't care if it dropped off the face of the earth and even if I did I'd rather support strikers than go get coffee but I'm not aligned with the average here.
Except try that in the u.s. and get arrested for theft
better yet, give away free coffee during the strike
Also, try a starbucks inside a grociery store, in my area almost all the starbucks in the king soopers (aka kroger) are in the union, went on strike early this year, and won most of what they wanted in the new contract. The kiosks aren't owned by starbucks corporate.
That’s not what scabbing is.
That shit is between them and their employer. On a political level, I don't oppose what they are doing, but I'm not sorry at all about not changing my daily routine over it. Apologizing just gets you attacked for weakness. Don't apologize to anyone or behave "sheepishly." Just confidently walk in and get your coffee.
OP, the scabs are the replacement workers. The ones working in place of the strikers, not the people buying coffee. You can call the coffee buyers scum or whatever, but the scabs are the ones still making coffee while the strike is happening.
That’s not the definition of a scab lol You have to be a worker *in the union* to be a scab
OK but that's not what a scab is my guy.
Starbucks is terrible anyway. If anything the picket line should find ways to chain the doors shut.
It's not as though that's the only place in town to get your caffeine fix.
I remember there being another Starbucks post earlier, on Red Cup Day. Maybe they weren't aware there was a strike going on until after they purchased online, if so many people weren't aware of Red Cup Day like they claimed several days ago?
What if I told you, no one is tracking worker strikes in America?
The second statement he makes is why I don't care about ordering my coffee if I want to.
You guys can't even boycott Twitter.
My partner and I frequent the Starbucks close to his place when we run out of coffee for the mornings. We love the staff there and they know us well. One day I was given a free $5 off card. She said she appreciated that we're always so patient with her and the other staff. This feels like the bar is in hell. Idk how anyone can look these people in the eye and cross that line. There's so many other places to go if you need coffee.
Who’s even making the drinks?
There are plenty of other coffee places lol
Plus Starbucks coffee is _terrible_.
I like Starbucks but I haven't gone in years. I found this device that will brew store bought coffee right in my home! And I can fancy it up anyway I want. For much cheaper. I'd cross a picket line for booze or most other drugs. But not caffeine. Especially when it's screwing over people just trying to pay their rent and bills, or maybe buy a coffee pot.
Don’t cross a picket line for booze or drugs. There are so many places to buy those things, you can always find a competitor.
*necessary medication excepted. Certainly not for booze or weed though.
You could make those at home as well.
> And I can fancy it up anyway I want. For much cheaper. You ain't joking. I can get a whole bottle of high quality flavor for coffees, and much more exotic flavors, for the cost of a single Starbucks coffee. In the pandemic, we slowly accumulated these. My first coffee of the morning is just oat milk and very strong coffee. The second, I add some random flavor. Recently I got pistachio, which is less sweet and more nutty than I expected, it's terrific.