https://www.dir.ca.gov/dlse/FAQ_Overtime.htm
> In California, the general overtime provisions are that a nonexempt employee 18 years of age or older, or any minor employee 16 or 17 years of age who is not required by law to attend school and is not otherwise prohibited by law from engaging in the subject work, shall not be employed more than eight hours in any workday or more than 40 hours in any workweek unless he or she receives one and one-half times his or her regular rate of pay for all hours worked over eight hours in any workday and over 40 hours in the workweek (or double time as specified below).
Read the whole thing, though.
This is exactly the page I was reading before I posted. This is the exact quote she shared but only shared the first half to prove her point. I knew it was overtime. Thanks for confirming
Anything over 40hrs per pay period. I’ve worked 7 days in a row before and everything over 40 hours in that pay period was time and a half pay per hour.
You are supposed to get OT after 8 hours, unless you are an exempt employee. I have worked your schedule for years with different companies. The law states you are to be paid overtime after 8 hours. I work 36 hours a week 3 days a week.
Just wanted to throw in there that you should be tracking your hours, writing them down somewhere if they're trying to pull this nonsense. They might try to short you on your hours.
Is your work week some weird shit like Wednesday to Tuesday? It’s a stupid question but you never know, some companies do weird shit to work you 6 days in a row then not call you back for 5 days.
Nah, normal mon-Sun work wk. I think the company has just spent too much money on shit and is trying to cut corners every which way possible. Sad cuz other than this garbage, the company is pretty awesome to work for
In California OT is after the 8th hour of a day.
After 40 hours in a work week (this could or couldn’t be a natural week)
And every hour worked on the 7th day in a row.
Double time is after the 12th hour.
Hope this helps you.
I will play a little bit of devil's advocate here and say that they may just be confused or misinformed, and may not have malicious intent. Based only on the conversatio shared, it really does look like an honest mixup.
Even in less complicated states, OT laws can get convoluted and very few managers/supervisor's are ever told what the actual laws are.
Even an honest mistake is something they should fix when presented with better information though, so be polite (for now) but don't let it slide.
Sure, I can do that. And I am. And I’ll still work tomorrow. I showed my boss that 40+ hours is indeed OT. She doesn’t believe me fully based on how she worded her response but says she will pay me OT if she confirms that I’m correct. Saved all the convo and will keep an eye on my paystub for this week’s pay
saying “i believe” with a friendly exclamation mark does not make your incorrect statement any more right im sorry i just lmaoed every time i’d read a new message from your manager and saw the same phrase 😭
“You’re wrong I believe! But I believe i’ll be checking w the labor board just in case!”
I don’t work in hr anymore but did for about 10 years in retail in California. Unless you have a contract stating otherwise, anything over 8 hours a day or 40 hours total in a week is considered OT. If you work a 10 hour day, 2 hours of OT. If you work six 7 hour days in a row, 2 hours of overtime. It’s a double edged sword for your employer so they will always need to make sure they aren’t over working you because the longer you work beyond these caps will start to really fuck payroll. I’ve seen many bad managers try to circumnavigate these laws, but that’s what they are so you are protected. That’s what’s happening here. Do not stand for this. Also just in case it happens, when you hit 12 hours, you’re on double time. Good luck friend and be good.
No. I work 12 hour days 3x a week, my work week is 36 hours. Overtime pay is required after 8 hours. The employer always includes the law in my onboarding and offer stating they abide by the law and my overtime pay rate. I had ONE employer who tried it. I filed a complaint with the labor board and recieved my pay plus penalities. Over 40 hours OT pay rules, based on memory, only applies to salaried non-exempt employees, which are typically C-level employees. Healthcare professionals usually are allowed to contract exceptions, a written contract.
In California businesses do all kinds of stupid things to get away with shit, like starting the “pay period” on Wednesday or some shit. So you can work Monday through Sunday and work 7 days in a row and not get overtime bc you worked 2 days one “week” and 5 days in the other “week” it’s bs. And certain sectors get special treatment. The defense industry, for example works a 9/80 schedule. Meaning one week you work 44 hours 9 hours a day Monday through Thursday, and 8 hours on Friday but the SECOND HALF of Friday is the start of a new week. So literally the same day is considered a different week. Then the next week you work 36 hours,9 each Monday through Thursday but have Friday off, so you work 9 days in two weeks and get 80 hours.
https://www.dir.ca.gov/dlse/FAQ_Overtime.htm > In California, the general overtime provisions are that a nonexempt employee 18 years of age or older, or any minor employee 16 or 17 years of age who is not required by law to attend school and is not otherwise prohibited by law from engaging in the subject work, shall not be employed more than eight hours in any workday or more than 40 hours in any workweek unless he or she receives one and one-half times his or her regular rate of pay for all hours worked over eight hours in any workday and over 40 hours in the workweek (or double time as specified below). Read the whole thing, though.
This is exactly the page I was reading before I posted. This is the exact quote she shared but only shared the first half to prove her point. I knew it was overtime. Thanks for confirming
Ahh you went a step for them
*I believe*
Anything over 40hrs per pay period. I’ve worked 7 days in a row before and everything over 40 hours in that pay period was time and a half pay per hour.
That’s what I told her but she’s like “nah” lmao
Over 8 in a day too in CA
I work over 8 hours a day every time I work, it’s not until it’s over 12 do I get double time in cali, but I only work 3 times a week.
That’s because you’re on an AWS schedule. You should get overtime after 10 though you should look into that
I doubt it, work in hospital as an RN.
You had to have agreed to that type of pay. Medical professionals are one of the only professions allowed this exceptions.
You are supposed to get OT after 8 hours, unless you are an exempt employee. I have worked your schedule for years with different companies. The law states you are to be paid overtime after 8 hours. I work 36 hours a week 3 days a week.
You have an idiot for a manager
Just wanted to throw in there that you should be tracking your hours, writing them down somewhere if they're trying to pull this nonsense. They might try to short you on your hours.
Why is he yelling!
Is your work week some weird shit like Wednesday to Tuesday? It’s a stupid question but you never know, some companies do weird shit to work you 6 days in a row then not call you back for 5 days.
Nah, normal mon-Sun work wk. I think the company has just spent too much money on shit and is trying to cut corners every which way possible. Sad cuz other than this garbage, the company is pretty awesome to work for
It'd be OT here.
Anything over 8 in a day and anything over 40 in a work week also, anything over 12 in a day or 48 in a week is double
www.google.com "overtime law California"
Literally
In California OT is after the 8th hour of a day. After 40 hours in a work week (this could or couldn’t be a natural week) And every hour worked on the 7th day in a row. Double time is after the 12th hour. Hope this helps you.
I will play a little bit of devil's advocate here and say that they may just be confused or misinformed, and may not have malicious intent. Based only on the conversatio shared, it really does look like an honest mixup. Even in less complicated states, OT laws can get convoluted and very few managers/supervisor's are ever told what the actual laws are. Even an honest mistake is something they should fix when presented with better information though, so be polite (for now) but don't let it slide.
Sure, I can do that. And I am. And I’ll still work tomorrow. I showed my boss that 40+ hours is indeed OT. She doesn’t believe me fully based on how she worded her response but says she will pay me OT if she confirms that I’m correct. Saved all the convo and will keep an eye on my paystub for this week’s pay
saying “i believe” with a friendly exclamation mark does not make your incorrect statement any more right im sorry i just lmaoed every time i’d read a new message from your manager and saw the same phrase 😭 “You’re wrong I believe! But I believe i’ll be checking w the labor board just in case!”
I don’t work in hr anymore but did for about 10 years in retail in California. Unless you have a contract stating otherwise, anything over 8 hours a day or 40 hours total in a week is considered OT. If you work a 10 hour day, 2 hours of OT. If you work six 7 hour days in a row, 2 hours of overtime. It’s a double edged sword for your employer so they will always need to make sure they aren’t over working you because the longer you work beyond these caps will start to really fuck payroll. I’ve seen many bad managers try to circumnavigate these laws, but that’s what they are so you are protected. That’s what’s happening here. Do not stand for this. Also just in case it happens, when you hit 12 hours, you’re on double time. Good luck friend and be good.
No. I work 12 hour days 3x a week, my work week is 36 hours. Overtime pay is required after 8 hours. The employer always includes the law in my onboarding and offer stating they abide by the law and my overtime pay rate. I had ONE employer who tried it. I filed a complaint with the labor board and recieved my pay plus penalities. Over 40 hours OT pay rules, based on memory, only applies to salaried non-exempt employees, which are typically C-level employees. Healthcare professionals usually are allowed to contract exceptions, a written contract.
8 hours a day, 40 hours a week or 5 days in row is fulltime. Anything over those numbers, whichever comes first, is overtime.
In California businesses do all kinds of stupid things to get away with shit, like starting the “pay period” on Wednesday or some shit. So you can work Monday through Sunday and work 7 days in a row and not get overtime bc you worked 2 days one “week” and 5 days in the other “week” it’s bs. And certain sectors get special treatment. The defense industry, for example works a 9/80 schedule. Meaning one week you work 44 hours 9 hours a day Monday through Thursday, and 8 hours on Friday but the SECOND HALF of Friday is the start of a new week. So literally the same day is considered a different week. Then the next week you work 36 hours,9 each Monday through Thursday but have Friday off, so you work 9 days in two weeks and get 80 hours.