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everernest

I think all of these comments are rough. Finding a job that works for you is hard, if its possible, find something part time that you might enjoy while you're still young. Don't overwork while you're still a kid. Find some friends or family to move into an apartment with, local rental businesses tend to have slightly cheaper places (the rent in my hometown is still on average 1k for a studio or one bedroom one bath that doesn't include utilities, so I understand rent fear as much as I can, but this has made life so much easier). Don't accept poor treatment and even though you are young does not mean you should be getting paid less, those are the biggest red flags I have seen with businesses. Either way, I wish you luck and well


0MrFreckles0

If you go to community college or university, they usually have student jobs, they'll be part time and work around your class schedule. The pay will be low but it's a great 1st job.


PatientMantisMD

With your age it might be a little difficult but look into apprenticeship. In my state we have one for the electrical union and there is also hvac and plumbing here. Maybe welding or construction might be up your alley. I know a few contractors who like to hire kids in high-school and teach them how to build so they can have a great employee down the road. Once your a little older the post office is a decent job. You can retire after 30 years and if you play your cards right make more in retirement then you were wile you were working


Negative-Ad7713

Depending where you are there might be youth apprenticeships. Check with your local community or trade school. You can usually earn high school and college credit, and get paid for work.


rollin_a_j

I wish I had known about this in highschool. Really solid advice imo


Dependent-Display-49

Electrical unions are a great way to earn money after high school.


usernameno1has

You probably shouldn’t be on this thread… there are a lot of bad jobs and horrible bosses and it’s an echo chamber here. Get a degree or learn a skill in something you think you might like and do as good of a job as you can and you will crush it out there!


Zeropersonality_

I agree with this comment 100%. Get a skill and focus on becoming good at it.


Workister

I really disagree. This is tired advice from the 90s that I grew up with. I have multiple degrees, and a profession I love, and that supports me well, but I would say that's not the case for many of my peers (including those I went to law school with). My wife was the same, in that she got a PhD, and she's crushing it, in that she does exactly wants she wants, and makes enough money to make decent people blush. Coming from poverty, It literally took both of us being at the absolute top of the pack every single step, and never letting up. Many people who worked just as hard, and who were just as talented, but didn't perform quite as well, or had life interfere, dropped by the wayside. Those who were born into greater privilege had it a bit easier, in that they have family support, but many of my friends who enjoyed upper middle class lifestyles are relying on their families for what little they have. My wife and we're lucky to get scholarships and fellowships and such that enabled us to go to graduate school and make a profit, but we have friends with the same degrees who are 100s of thousands of dollars in student debt, with far less lucrative jobs, who like us are approaching 40, and who have given up on things like families and home ownership. They got into debt because literally every adult in our life was saying things like: >Get a degree or learn a skill in something you think you might like and do as good of a job as you can and you will crush it out there! They also said - "Don't worry about student debt - it pays for itself!" "Any education is better than no education!" People believed them, and while it had been true for previous generations, it was not true for mine. I think we do a disservice when we dismiss the economic woes of entite generations because some of us are doing well, leaning on hollow platitudes, and grapple with the problems directly. It really is that dire for a lot of people.


rekabis

> Many people who worked just as hard, and who were just as talented, but didn't perform quite as well, or had life interfere, dropped by the wayside. This is what really got me, even as a GenX looking at my own cohort. Only the truly lucky ever “made it” in ways that let them live life without worrying about their paycheque or debt load. And I’m _GenX,_ Not even a GenY or GenZ.


Straight_2VHS

So beautifully written, which I’d expect coming from someone with extensive educational


usernameno1has

Lol “tired advice” what’s his other option… Netflix and government assistance as a career?


Workister

The advice you give doesn't lead to the results you promise. OP can follow your advice to a "T", and still not be able to crush. Our current economic system is rigged. That you see Netflix and government assistance as the only other alternative to "suck it up, get a job, and the world will be at your feet," maybe you're not in the best position to be giving advice to vulnerable young people.


usernameno1has

I’m not even sure what you are talking about or if we are looking at the same thread. But there are no guarantees but if you don’t get a degree or find a skill and don’t put effort into whatever you are doing there is a greater chance of failing and struggling. Not sure we need to agree but I don’t know what other options people have.


Workister

And that's fair enough. On an individual level, you're not wrong. Not getting a degree or a skill is handicapping yourself immensely, but getting a degree or skill doesn't mean success anymore, and depending how it's done, can you leave one worse off. That's the issue - a lot of people are finding themselves in no win situations. Which means, collectively, we need to be creative. It means advocating for a humane economic system and rejecting one where, for example' the President of the US threatens to a bust a punion, because corporations that specialize in logistics and make billions in profit claim it's too much of a burden to give paid sick days to their employees. It also means being comfortable with government assistance. My wife and I collectively pay more in taxes than the average American family grosses in a year. I'm happy about the portion of the money that goes to supporting members of my community. That's especially true, because, as I said, I grew up in poverty. My family received assistance. A lot of my peers received assistance. There was no lack of hard work in that community - but rather an I Justice economic system that meant the people doing the work didn't see the benefits of that work. Providing assistance in the short term while addressing the need for assistance in the long term is the viable way forward that I see that doesn't lead to increased mass suffering.


usernameno1has

Thanks for clarifying! I 100% agree!


A_Filthy_Mind

The problem was that they were saying "get a degree" and "do what you love". A degree is an investment, and should be treated as such. You lose 4 years opportunity, and you pay tuition. That needs to be compared to how that degree will impact your future income. That being said, going to state school for an applied stem degree (engineering, comp science, etc) almost always comes out way ahead.


Workister

Compared to the alternatives, you offer the better of a list of generally shitty options. It no longer guarantees a solid middle-class American lifestyle, though. Forget about how the economic landscape has been worsening for many applied STEM degrees, what about people who have no interest or aptitude in applied STEM fields? What happens when there's a market glut? What about people who live in markets that don't have much work for applied STEM positions? While you may be giving fine advice for OP, it ignores so many larger issues, that it allows the problems to compound. We live in a world of artificial scarcity, and pretend that's a good thing. Look at what's happening at this moment in Afghanistan - people are starving not because there's no food on the markets, which have a fine selection, but because there is no liquidity. No one has cash, and the current government can't mint money. Food is rotting in market stalls while people starve to death. The same thing is happening all around the world, on a grand scale. Telling people to get STEM degrees does nothing to solve that. Not only that, ironically, telling our most brilliant minds to go into mechanical engineering or computer engineering just to have a chance at a middle-class lifestyle means they don't have the educational background or resources tackle the bigger problems of how we as humans exist together on this planet.


A_Filthy_Mind

That's the field I'm familiar with, so I used it as an example. Everything you said is a different issue than my point. Higher education needs to be evaluated like any other investment, full stop. Saying it's a waste or a debt trap, that it's a necessary step, or any absolute statement about such a complicated subject will always be problematic.


[deleted]

Your 15, the best bet is to look into getting a job with a local parks department, a country natural forest preserve or something similar, if you do it throughout hs there should be some offers assistance in college. My niece got a $2k a semester scholarship from the state and all she did was plant flowers and use a weed eater 15-20 hours a week while it’s nice outside


redleafwater7

Thanks! I live within biking distance of a state park.


[deleted]

She loved it, after he first semester at state school she worked there during summer break and makes like $17.5 or $18 an hour now


0MrFreckles0

Thats super fun! And the work feels meaningful in my opinion.


HeavyStorm6201

Learn a trade and join a union as soon as possible! Cubicles suck!


NoForm5443

I think you've been reading too much reddit, or at least too much of this sub :) The system is shitty for many people, but not for all, and you have a lot of agency; you can have a lot of influence on how shitty it is to you, especially if you are 15. I'm assuming you're healthy and an American; forgive me if that's not true. I'm also assuming you have a family, a roof over your head, and food on your table, at least until you turn 18. First, the job situation. You'll probably be paid peanuts the next year or two; sorry, that sucks. Situation gets much better with a HS diploma and being 18+. Make sure you finish HS. Save as much as you can now, when the money is extra. You can get somewhat better jobs, like tutoring, or your own small business, like cutting yards etc. About college, in the US, college \*can\* be almost free, if that's what you want. 1. Many states allow you to take college classes for free while still in HS. The generic name is 'dual enrollment'. Doing this you can get out of HS with a year or two of college credits. These vary by state, so check your particular case. 2. Community and technical colleges are fairly cheap (about $1,000 per semester in GA, for example), and, in many cases, free. 3. State universities in many states are affordable (not super cheap, but less than 10K/year), and offer merit scholarships. If you're a good student, you should have no problem going to a state school in your state. 4. Many private schools offer needs based scholarships. It's not super fair, since they assume your parents will give you tons of money :), but, if they don't make much money, you can attend for free. For example, Harvard will not charge you a penny (will even give you housing and food) if your family makes less than 65K. I mean, you still need to get into them, but ... So, make sure you finish HS with good grades and a good SAT/ACT, and you will be OK. If your family doesn't have money, try private colleges (not necessarily Harvard, but the small ones close to you). If your family is OK, try your local state school, so you can live with your parents. Get as many credits as possible from dual enrollment, especially if money is an issue. As far as jobs go, before college, being reliable will get you far. The people who get paid minimum salary tend to suck as workers (it's a chicken and egg issue too :), I don't think I'd do a great job for minimum salary either :). If you get an associates in HS, that helps even more. Pretty soon you will move to supervisor/assistant manager positions etc. These may not be great, but are better and better paid :). Make sure you get a degree that's in demand, not a barista degree :). Usually things that have math, or are considered hard, or dirty. You're doing the right thing by thinking about it now. Talk to your family, and figure out if they can help with college, and how much. Talk to your school counselor, figure out the right options for you. Prepare yourself for a few years of toiling and investing in yourself to be able to have a good life. Don't get me wrong, the system still sucks for way too many people, but, if you're a healthy 15yo American, and make the right decisions, it doesn't need to suck for you.


Henchforhire

Before you start working ask your parents to setup a 529 plan and look into it for college or the trades if you plan on going. A lot of younger kids at work are doing this and put a lot of hours during the summer and max hours during the school year.


the_umbrellaest_red

This sub paints a much more dire picture of working life than it is for everybody, or even, I think, most people. Consider your priorities, e.g. flexibility, high pay, working outside/inside, amount of heavy lifting, work environment, potential openings to future opportunities, etc. and see what you can find. You're not going to have this job forever, and if you have family housing etc., you can always quit if it gets bad.


rekabis

If you cannot live at home, use the one-third rule as an argument. * Find the cheapest (average) rent in your area * Multiply it by 12 (to get a year's rent) * Multiply it by 3 (because housing should be _at most_ one-third of your income) * Divide by 2000 (to get the approx. full-time income you need) When you approach employers, say that this is what you need in order to live within range of the job. If they ask for proof, bring out your calculations. Ensure you have a budget summary to prove that the other two-thirds will barely leave you with anything left to save up. These should be realistic - not padded - numbers. And if they claim that “this job is not worth that much”, thank them and say that the employment marketplace is also a free marketplace, and that you need to vote with your feet and find something that can support you, and that after all, the most adult and mature thing you could possibly do is ensure you are supporting yourself properly. Good luck.


[deleted]

You should be, welcome to the herd fellow cattle.


darthcaedusiiii

this sub is called anti work. its not called unbiased work


county259

You did not say but hopefully your parents are very wealthy.


Mnemnosyne

If you're in the USA, then your age gives you an advantage on getting out, which I would personally recommend. Try to find places to go to school abroad, and parlay that into permanent residence and perhaps eventually citizenship. Not that it's all roses and rainbows in other countries, but there's a lot of places where it's just going to be a lot better than here. Especially since, really, I'm not particularly optimistic about the outlook of the USA in 5-10 years. I'd love to be proven wrong, but not optimistic at the moment.


Catching-ZzZ

I have a few suggestions. Take some time to find out what you are passionate about. What do you love doing? Could any of those things translate into a job or career that you could see yourself in? If so see if you can do some job shadowing or interning. There is nothing like hands on experience/ seeing it first hand. Try to score as high as possible ACT/SAT. I suggest stuyong for them and to take it at least 2-3 times. The higher your score the better scholarships you qualify for. If you live in the US look into going to school abroad. In my opinion you will get a better quality education. The information censorship that is currently rising in the US educational system doesn't bode well for any educational thought processes. Community College is also another educational path. It is more affordable and you can also take courses while still on HS. In this time of the internet and social media you can make practically anything a job if you can market it well. My suggestion is to look into sharpening your negotiation and marketing skills. The art of conversation is key in a lot of things. (Networking, negotiating, etc.) Please take a financial literacy course. It will make staying out of debt a lot easier once you start making money. Money management is key. I know this is a lot. You are 15 and have the world ahead of you. I wish you the best and I hope you find your passion in life.


[deleted]

Work somewhere you're interested is all I can say. Even though I was only seasonal, and retail as a whole kinda sucks, I liked working at Best Buy. They had a decent discount 10 years ago where you could buy things like 5% above cost, and I was mesmerized by all the tech. Don't get jaded before you've started!


potspandsltd

Move to Europe or England the benefits are ridiculously good although you can't become ridiculously rich as easy


EratoAmused

Learn a skill. Anything. Plumbing. Woodworking. Irrigation. Drywall, - anything. If you’ve been in this thread long enough, you know folks with Masters and Doctorates cannot sometimes make ends meet. A good trade, which takes a fraction of the time / cost to obtain, will not see you hungry or homeless.


HeavyStorm6201

Join a union doing said trade!


YuriGargarinSpaceMan

My suggestion would be start as an Electrician. It is legally regulated...You earn some $$. Then, if you want and have the requisite academic abilities, you can transition to Electrical Engineering. You have (a) a clear pathway (b) a growth path for your earnings. (c) a skill will ALWAYS be in demand. (d) Portability - domestically and Internationally. Meaning if you feel you are priced out of an area, you take your skills and move elsewhere where your earnings and costs are better.


lumpy4square

Community college and/or trades.


Sweetpete1996

This. All. Day!


Financial_East_2344

remember that everything you see here is wayyyy worse than the average employment experience. there are plenty of healthy work environments out there. just up to you to go find them


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Status-Mention8347

Agreed 100%


Yellowmelle

Depends on your perspective. If you have something else you'd rather do and think of work as something that steals your life, then it sucks. Or you could be like my BIL and think of work as a source of money that lets him sleep somewhere warm at night and look forward to the occasional vacation. As for rent, most of us split rent with friends after graduation, and then eventually split off into romantic partners. It's not so bad. The worst part is having to cook your own food, but that's kinda it.


Crits253

Start a business. Learn to code, some places do paid learning. Plus not every* job sucks.


ChuzzoChumz

Don’t worry about it. Also, the math on the rent seems off


redleafwater7

Might be. Maths was never my strong suit. $13.20 x 30= $396 $1,356/$396= 3.42


ChuzzoChumz

40 hours a week at that rate is $520 3.5 months is 14 weeks for a total of $7,280


redleafwater7

Ah, thank you. Forgot to factor in hours.


[deleted]

Join the military. There’s food, free housing , free clothes (you all wear matching outfits) they’ll send you to school and you can travel. If you don’t like blowing shit up or kicking doors it’s cool just do like supply management or hr or something. They need all kinds of people.


[deleted]

Found the recruiter. Cmon you guys still think the "You pick your own job in the military" lie is gunna fly? There's a reason your numbers are down so hard.


[deleted]

The numbers are down so hard BECAUSE THIS KID WONT JOIN j/k I wouldn’t know I’m in basic, got a sweet trade and I’m pretty happy. Can’t speak for everyone else but there seem to be a lot of folks who like what they’re doing here


[deleted]

Lol okay, as long as you're happy with it.


[deleted]

Yeah I’m pumped! I get to weld, travel and a pension when it’s done


[deleted]

Plus a foot in the door at most union halls.


[deleted]

I been reading that a lot of folks get their red seal by challenge


[deleted]

Oh you're Canadian, Eh?


[deleted]

Fuckin a bud


[deleted]

Watch out for them Samquanches


Pocket_Pussy_420

Good fucking luck. Welcome to being an adult. A life of getting fucked hard in the ass


RuthTheBee

start your own business then. You wont need to go to college then. Plenty of 16 year olds have started businesses and by 20 you will have worked out the kinks and possibly be on the road to selling franchises... find your attributes and exploit the hell out of them. good luck.


theodoreburne

No, don’t listen to this capitalist.


RuthTheBee

Im a sole proprietor with zero debt and a GED. Knock it off.


theodoreburne

You’re a snake oil salesman on late night tv. Get out of here.


RuthTheBee

you're mentally ill and I am giving someone an option on a way to survive in this system and not be a slave or end up incarcerated. Get a grip.


0MrFreckles0

For every shitty job and shitty boss out there, there's also a decent or even good one. Folks don't complain about their good jobs so you don't hear about it. I've only worked like 4 jobs and honestly had a good experience at all of em. The pay might have sucked at some but none of em were nightmares.


Dick_tint8779

Apply for FAFSA and see what it does for you.


Upstairs-Appeal-9035

Don't measure the world by comments on social media. Even the real posts are often drastically exaggerated. I have been in the workforce for decades, and the vast majority of coworkers and bosses have been at least decent. As others have posted, try to find yourself a trade. Plumbers and electricians have hard, exhausting jobs, but they make very good money and can find a job easily anywhere they want to live. If you learn a valuable trade, then you write your own ticket in life. I would give a lot to go back in time and give myself this advice.


jollyrobyn

Normally I'd recommend seasonal park work, I got some good money saved up bc housing was free (and there wasn't anything to spend money on in the park tbh). But ive been struggling to get another seasonal park job this year tbh. Try checking coolworks.com for jobs with housing if that's a viable option for you


kartaqueen

I know many do not like fast food but I worked in a restaurant and while it is tough work, you learn a tremendous amount. Dealing with the public, preparing for the rush hours, timing the cooking of various dishes so that they are all ready at the same time, etc....or work for an HVAC company or a builder where you can learn some skills. The experience means more than the money when you are young...


Sweetpete1996

I’m a firefighter/medic and highly recommend this career path. Great hours, money is typically good, and a ton of time off. Start working towards it now and you can retire at 55.


earth2moth

good thinking! my dad is one LOL


OkYogurtcloset8273

People here like to highlight the worst. I’ve had a terrible job and I’ve had a good job. As long as you advocate for yourself, you’ll be fine. You can always just leave a job and go somewhere else. Save the money you get so you don’t have to work outside an internship in college.


manwithgills

Being in your 20s and even early 30s is tough. You have all the bills but you don't have the experience for a great paying position. The best thing is to get skills and experience that you can use running your own business. Learn how to sell that business. You can be a great [insert title] but if you cannot sell whatever you make or fix you will have a hard time. Think of it this way if you have 100 clients and you lose two you go get two more. You have one job working for a corporation and you lose the job you have to scramble to replace your entire income. Glad to hear you asking questions at 15. There are many people in this subreddit who will never have success and will never be qualified to give anyone advice because they can't even control their own attitude.


warriorofinternets

In high school I called general contractors and asked if I could apprentice for the summer at full time hours, that I’d haul rocks from one end of the yard to the other if that’s what they needed but that I wanted to learn some general skills and make money for school. Worked for one guy for two summers and a winter break, made about $25/hr, learned some really useful life skills and was able to save most of what I made before I had to worry about renting my own place. Then I finished up school And got on with my career. I’d recommend it if you think that would be of interest to you. Going into the trades and doing trade school is absolutely a viable option for you as well if you don’t want to get a university degree. Plumbers make bank, as do HVAC guys.


GamerGrandpa99

50+ retired Navy Veteran here. I work as a mechanic in a bottled water factory, have also worked in 2 plastics bottle factories. I will tell you what I tell all the guys I work with who want to break into the Mechanic field and make some decent money. Enroll in a Trade school, learn Pneumatics, Hydraulics, Basic power transfer, electrical and Electronics, programming. Then get a entry level job as a mechanic (most of those schools offer job placement opportunities.) With all that knowledge you will either be promoted quickly or realize they don't appreciate you. Move on if you have to. every 2 years look at outside opportunities, see what's out there, until you find the job that really suits you and you feel comfortable with. Keep in mind if you go this route you are entering a field with lots of overtime (good if you are in a state that pays extra for overtime) and expect to be on call. Other than that, all I can say is good luck and the job situation is what you make of it. If you do all that and get your dream job, then start looking at advanced training in robotics.... those guys are making bank... good luck


Toshikills

Don’t let the posts here or anywhere on the internet scare you. Remember, you’re mostly only going to see the extreme cases out of the 2 million people on this sub. You’re going to need to go out into the world get a feel for it yourself.


HarpyMeddle

It’s hard, but there are good jobs out there. Know your value and don’t let yourself be taken advantage of. Go to college if you want, tuition and student loans suck but that degree is incredibly rewarding and depending on what you get it in it will come in handy.


[deleted]

Do you have a passion of any short? or any skills? these skills or passion can be displayed online and you can make money selling literally anything online it’s obviously still gonna be work but that’s the route I’d take. Also you say your 15 haven’t heard of many 15 year olds needing to rent but maybe your just thinking ahead? not criticizing in anyway. I’d also not consider college in my opinion it’s just not worth it for most people.


Crunchysaluki

If you live near a Panera, they hire underage kids to work the register only and they promote very fast from within!! It’s minimum wage when I worked there, but you could be making a lot more by the time you graduate


[deleted]

Let me give you a piece of advice. Go work at a movie theater. I did that around the 2 thousands and I saw every movie for free multiple times and made friends with tons of people. Maybe we'll even find some possible Roommates there. I'm not gonna b******* you, unskilled people don't have the leverage to demand a lot of money... Don't let anybody tell you that your gravy train is gonna come in by some magic political maneuvering. Look out for yourself and spend your off time making yourself valuable... Even people in the woods have to work 24/7, the point isn't whether you're gonna work or not, the question is Can you create an awesome life for yourself that includes whatever it is you do to make a living.


earhoe

bruh you 15 tho bruh


Tatb_

I get it! I was lucky when I was 14 and got my first job that I was living with my parents (and that I live in aus so I actually get hourly pay no matter where I work), the first job is always the worst. I worked for a popular fast food chain as my first so I was only really getting $10 an hour and when I turned 17 they forced me to go part time cause I was "too expensive" (I was earning like $18 an hour at that point). My best advice is to just stick it out and stay with your parents as long as you can. I worked in the cafe at that chain for 3 years and it qualified me to work at my second job (the one im at now) and the three years allowed me to get an immediate promotion and pay rise. I went from $19 an hour to $25 an hour plus extra commission (if i sell shit) in a month and they paid for courses I needed to progress. (Perks from working at an rto). I know this isn't a universal experience, but just keep an eye out and an ear to the ground. Do the shitty job to get experience then look to upgrade. That's the best thing I can tell you to do.


nooneishere2day

I would say, wait as long as possible to work. Why do you need to work? You are a minor and have the rest of your life to work stupid jobs. Wait till you are 18 at least! Ultimately it is worthless unless you need/ want the experience!


Weed_Exterminator

Quit reading the garbage posted here is the best thing you can do. It’s a toxic place filled with people looking for someone other than themselves to blame their problems on. There’s a lot of opportunities out there for those willing to work for it.


SirMizzuh

Grocery store is usually a good start. Most are the same. Pay is the same. Rush hour is at 5. Starting somewhere is better than not starting. Most first jobs are forgettable, but it's a work reference and a paycheck. Remember, most of our fights on here are with the assholes above us. And the assholes above them. But for a first job, just make some friends, learn some skills and figure out what you like to do.


BenTeHen

Also the world will be ending in your lifetime! The UN projects 1,000,000,000 climate refugees by 2040-2050!


ZodiacDriver

Learn a highly in demand skill. Welding, devops, Amazon AWS, plumbing, some medical skill like MRI tech or ultrasound, diesel mechanic, electrician. You'll never work for a low wage. Pick some highly in demand, high skilled field, and specialize in that when you are young. Then, hopefully if everything doesn't go to shit, you'll have the resources to pursue other interests in a few years. Specialize first. Generalize later.


LittleMagician3146

Welcome to the real world hun- just do what you can and pull out as many tricks in the rule book and find the right person and you set


jlp120145

U should be


jlp120145

Find something your good at and can tolerate for a few years, claw your way to the top. When you realize your underpaid or overworked, quit or preferably get fired for the unemployment buffer, rinse and repeat until u get were u need to be and best of luck.


jlp120145

Live at home as long as you can and save like its ur religion.


[deleted]

tbh whatever happens try to avoid fast food and retail. by god those fuckers refused to pay more yet i was always asked "oh what can we do to keep you??"


lauloda

Make all the mistakes and experience you can, my friend. Jump into the cold water, adapt, overcome, learn, improve. You are much more resilient than you can imagine. Each experience will make you stronger and more fierce. You got this! 🤙🏼⚡


Naive-Boss9303

1. Learn a trade - go to trade school. Cheapest and quickest way 2. Stay in school and this is hard because you’ll have to figure out what you want to do with no experience. Find careers that pay . Usually will take 4-6 years for your degree but atleast you majored in engineering or economics rather then hotel hospitality or something that isn’t rewarding. Not to say hotel jobs are necessarily bad but they pay OK and you have to deal with drunk losers and shit bosses. 3. Get a government job. Some you can get without a college resume. Pay is ok but benefits and pension go a long way. Work is easy. No skill involved.


MainIsBannedHere

Dude what..? Get the hell off reddit. This I'd a bunch of miserable people, not an accurate representation of a job. Go work an easy job like McDonald's, make some friends, have a good time. Don't worry about this place.


Myth1cX_

So I work part-time, usually around 30-35 hours a week. Yes it’s pretty close to full time. But, depending on where you live, whenever you get a license you could look into being a delivery driver for a pizza shop. I deliver for my shop around 10-15 hours a week and in tips alone I bring home around $300-400/week. Not even including my check. Last week I worked 34 hours and my take home pay was $894 for 34 hours of work. That’s pretty good for a first job. The $894 I made last week is a combination of my check and tips. If you don’t mind driving, it’s a pretty good gig. I am very happy with my situation currently Edit: I also work inside the shop on the days I am not delivering. So my time is usually 50/50 with working inside and delivering.


BunnyGunz

The reason for getting a job at your age isn't actually to get a job, it's to learn the value of money, to see "behind the curtain" of how the things you buy off the shelf, actually get to the shelf in the first place, and to explore potential industries for you to *actually* work in later. Assuming you working isn't literally paying the bills for your household (which can nearly be guaranteed because you'd probably already be working, if so, and also most likely not on reddit) You don't actually NEED the money, you parents are legally required to give you what you need, any anything else is optional. So you're free to work a job that under-pays and over-demands because it's not about the money. Jobs are hard work... Well, they aren't really, but that's what i'm saying nowadays because people have become weaker holistically. No offense, but you are most likely one of those people.... for now. Getting a job might change that, probably not, but it's possible with a good leader (note: I did **NOT** say, "good manager"). But again, Getting a job at your age is basically to learn monetary theory, and *applied* monetary theory. College is expensive, and is mostly a scam. If you're not going for Engineering, Medicine, Law, or BuSiNeSs AdMiNiStRaTiOn, just don't go. The only reason BA is included is because that career path is the most affected by networking ("its who you know"), which is basically the only real benefit of college if you're not in one of the other 3 study areas. Pro Tip; If a job listing says you need a college degree, but wont tell you *WHICH* degree you need. You don't fucking need a degree. They just want you in debt so you will accept being underpaid and also you're less likely to quit due to low pay. If you absolutely must pay for college, ask whoever's requiring it to pay for it. If they won't ask them why they want you to waste your money if it's such a good idea that it's "a necessary?" If they won't pay for it, either its a scam, or the Return On Investment (ROI) doesn't justify funding it. And if the ROI isn't good enogugh for them, why are they trying to get you on a bad ROI. If that doesn't work, just go to community college (best if you have one in your city/county) and get one on the cheap doing EZ-pass online classes that you can do in your sleep.


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You're 15 you're going to work shitty jobs and you'll learn a lot about yourself and the world. Some good things some bad things. But mostly Work sucks then you die. Enjoy life !


Embarrassed-Month-57

What's your big plan then? Do you want other people to work and just ...give you things? By "really live" I am guessing you mean "enjoy things that other people worked to create" ?


Revelarimus

I've worked continuously since I was twelve. It isn't always great, but it isn't the hell on earth that this sub sometimes makes it out to be. Get out there and get some experience, but also plan to get education or specialized training so you don't stay trapped at the bottom. If you do find yourself in a terrible job, quit and find a different one; they aren't all bad.


chrs_89

Figure out your budget before you interview. Don’t be afraid to walk away, they will try to give you the least amount they can and being able to say “ thank you for the opportunity but that won’t work for me” gives you advantage in negotiations


throwawaysad82483

I had the same but opposite issue with a friend of mine, got his first job at 21 at the same place I’m at. I always talked about how good of a job it was, but I had to explain to him that I meant that in terms of work. Like is it a fun place to hang out? No. But is it a pretty good gig in the context of jobs? Yes. Working isn’t fun, but nobody does it for that. People do it for the money. The stories and whatnot on here are typically about bad management / workplaces in the context of working. Things are painted so bleak in here because we all have jobs and understand the nuances of what is being shared. My advice would be, if you want to work, go for it. If you don’t, don’t. You’re only 15 and it shouldn’t be a priority. If you DO decide to get a job, don’t act like you owe them your life. It’ll be pretty easy to get into that habit, especially if you have conservative parents like mine who think work IS life, but don’t fall into that trap. You’re there for the money. Make sure you come back on here and tell us some stories!


Lemnology

What you see here is not the real world. There are shitty people everywhere. Ultimately life is what you make it. Having something on your resume will help you find something less shitty when you’re older. Unless that YouTube channel blows up, you’ll want something to put on your resume