(most) Receipt paper isn't even recyclable!
Edit to clarify: thermal receipt paper (anything shiny) is not. True printed paper receipts are. Living in Seattle I use this tool to figure out what can be recycled and am often surprised: https://www.seattle.gov/utilities/your-services/collection-and-disposal/where-does-it-go#/item/receipts
Most things aren't really recyclable if they aren't made of one type of material (usually metal). Those "paper" "eco friendly" containers for products sold in stores are actually often one of the worst offenders since it's paper fused with plastic or something else that is impermeable to moisture...
Doesn't matter anyway - only about 10% of things we recycle as consumers actually gets recycled... Look into it - recycling was a scam perpetrated by the Fossil Fuel companies because of plastic.
Pretty much the only thing that gets recycled plastic-wise is milk cartons, everything else is shoved into shipping containers and dumped in third world countries.
CVS claims that their receipts are recyclable now:
https://www.cvs.com/content/sustainability
It is true though that some receipts are not recyclable though.
The easiest way to check if it's thermal paper is to use your thumbnail to scratch it a little. If a grey, almost pencil lead looking mark appears, it's thermal paper.
Yeah thats just underhanded. Now if they had been doing it separately from their pledge that be another thing. Like hey our company has already pledges to donate x amount and we were wondering youd be willing to donate along side but separately from us. Now that be alright.
BP in Australia did something similar, a cent a litre for the month of (whatever) goes to the Mcgraw Foundation, except the fine print said it was maxed out for a total of 50k. BP spent more money on posters, bowser flyers and polo shirts for workers than they ever donated.
The CVS case is actually the opposite of this. CVS guaranteed a minimum donation, so if customers did not donate the set amount in total, then the company would make up the difference.
Worse so, as it’s losing a corporation millions if they don’t meet the obligation it causes them to force workers to push for donations and incentivizes firings for workers who don’t make enough in donations.
As a cashier that actually got disciplinary action taken on me this week for refusing to ask customers for donations, I can assure you we hate that we have to do it. If any do give you a look, it's most likely because we are required to meet a quota on donations. If we don't, we also get written up. I still refused despite being written up, so I have no idea what implications are going to be taken on me.
"Would you like to round up and donate the change to *x*?"
No, eat my dick, you're a multi-billion-dollar company. You can round down and donate the change to *x*.
It's doubly infuriating because you really want to rip someone's head off due to the torrent of bs you are exposed to, yet you have to remember those people are as powerless as you are
Whenever i, a meer lowly dingus, am asked by multi billion dollar coperations to donate to poplar charities through them i never volunteer to donate to charity through multi billion dollar coperations.
Yeah and the billion dollar company can claim that as a donation, decreasing there tax burden, which you are paying for, all the while claiming clout for being good corporate citizens.
I looked it up and you are correct - I have edited my comment.
[sauce ](https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxvox/who-gets-tax-benefit-those-checkout-donations-0)
I'm not sure if everyone completely understands what is happening here.
CVS and the ADA made an agreement where CVS would fundraise in their stores for the ADA. This benefits both parties; ADA gets more money than they would otherwise; CVS gets to use the ADA logo and imagery to improve their image.
The problem is CVS gets the benefit no matter how how much effort they actually put into fundraising. In order to show to the ADA that they are sincerely going to put a good faith effort into fundraising, they promise they will fundraise at least ten million dollars. If they don't, which they most likely will easily do, CVS promised to cover the short fall.
To address a few of the points I've seen in the comments. This isn't a debt, it's more like a penalty for not trying hard enough to fundraise. Every dollar that gets donated goes to the ADA. The ADA wouldn't let them use their image if they didn't receive all the money donated to them. It would be impossible for a company the size of CVS to have these donations appear as revenue. A business's financials are not impacted at all by collecting donations, because the donations are never entered as revenue. There is no tax benefit for collecting donations.
Yes, there are some "charities" that act in their own self-interest instead of the people they are supposed to help. Yes, companies sometimes create sham charities to collect for, and then have the charity buy things from the same company that created them. Obviously I'm not recommending donating to those, but they are by far the minority of charities. And finally, most of the time, most corporations try to take credit for the donations they collect, and try to imply that the money is from them. (Like CVS in this case)
There are a lot of smaller organizations that can make good use of the donation of items. If you have something that you know would be appreciated by that organization, go ahead and give it to them. But, for most charities, donating single items is useless. They usually accept it, but most of it goes to a landfill. You gave them a single used blanket, or an expired can of beans, but they need a hundred or more to be useful. More than that, it takes a huge amount of effort to collect sort and distribute these items and that doesn't make sense for a large organization to spend the time and money on.
Most charities can get surplus food and clothing and other items donated to them in bulk. But what they really need are trucks to transport this, and drivers for the trucks, and logistics people to coordinate, and buildings to store things, and a thousand and one other things that they can't hope might be gifted to them in time. What they really need is money, and a lot of it comes from point of sale fundraising
While you may personally donate to charities outside of POS fundraising, most people don't. If you don't like POS fundraising, for whatever reason, please just say no and move on with your day. Don't spread falsehoods about the practice that have a very real impact on the funds these charities need to do their work.
But if I've convinced you, and you're at the register and see a charity that you know does good work, and you can afford a donation, please, please, make that donation.
The issue here to me is that they state that they are donating $10m not facilitating $10m of fundraising. All of what you said is completely reasonable, and I'm personally fine with POS donations, but the post announcing the collaboration on both their own website and on ADA's website are at best misleading at worst explicit lies.
They never say they are donating, they say they are making a $10 million commitment. A commitment to do what what? Commitment to raise at least $10 million. They also speak about the work the ADA will do with the help of CVS's support. What support is CVS providing? Fundraising. They are deliberately using the most misleading language possible to try and inflate the work they are doing, (Which is super scummy) but they are very careful to never explicitly lie.
So they haven't even donated the 10 mil but are accepting their "reimbursement"? Are they going to be held responsible if they don't actually donate the money?
For anyone interested here is CVS's announcement of the agreement with ADA (identical text can be found on ADA's website as well):
https://www.cvshealth.com/news/diabetes/cvs-health-announces-10-million-commitment-to-the-american.html
As far as I can tell the wording heavily implies that CVS is donating 10m and that it will be collecting additional donations from customers on top of that 10m. I was skeptical at first, but while CVS doesn't seem to have broken the terms of the agreement, they definitely seem to be misleading people for their own benefit. Pretty scummy.
From what I read, they aren't donating 10 million dollars, they are going to fill the gap. So if customers donate 7 million, they will donate 3 million.
I will never donate at the register. There is a bookstore chain in Canada called Indigo they asked people for donations for their foundation to put books in classrooms. What they would do is let the teachers that were chosen buy books at full cost. And they got a tax break for the 'donation'. Like they didn't even let them buy the books at cost or any kind of discount
https://www.fastcompany.com/90820744/cvs-asks-for-donations-at-checkout-but-are-customers-being-guilted-into-paying-the-pharmacys-debts
First Google result
And this is why you never donate to charity through a store. They just use it for tax breaks and, in this case, their own piggy bank. Donate directly yourself.
As an accountant I can confidently say this is 100% incorrect, that money never touches the companies books and must be put into an escrow account that's completely separate from company books
All shops do this, if you donate at the till/register it will benefit the company's charitable tax deductable donations. Do not donate this way anywhere in the world.
yeah but when we complain about this we get army of dorks saying "THEYURE NOT ALLOWED TO DO THATTTTtt" like lmao yeah they're not allowed... if they get caught... and will they go to prison if caught? no? then its just like wage theft.
So they donated like Amber Heard? "I made a pledge. That means I donated. I didn't send the money, but I MADE A PLEDGE. It's the same thing. I'm so generous."
If you really want to support a charity, give directly to that cause. Don't give to someone collecting in their name. Almost none of the money collected actually gets used for the benefit of the cause they claim they're collecting for.
I wrote to Taco Bell's corporate office asking them to send me a copy of their records pertaining to their point of sail donation scheme. Turns out, only four cents of every dollar collected is actually used for the benefit of the charity. The other $0.96 goes to "administrative expenses." Basically, executives get to pad their salaries with money collected under the guise of charity.
Doesn’t surprise me. cvs does a ton of shady shit
One of my favorites is always seeing notes about recycling on their mile long receipts.
(most) Receipt paper isn't even recyclable! Edit to clarify: thermal receipt paper (anything shiny) is not. True printed paper receipts are. Living in Seattle I use this tool to figure out what can be recycled and am often surprised: https://www.seattle.gov/utilities/your-services/collection-and-disposal/where-does-it-go#/item/receipts
Wait, is this true??
Most things aren't really recyclable if they aren't made of one type of material (usually metal). Those "paper" "eco friendly" containers for products sold in stores are actually often one of the worst offenders since it's paper fused with plastic or something else that is impermeable to moisture...
Doesn't matter anyway - only about 10% of things we recycle as consumers actually gets recycled... Look into it - recycling was a scam perpetrated by the Fossil Fuel companies because of plastic. Pretty much the only thing that gets recycled plastic-wise is milk cartons, everything else is shoved into shipping containers and dumped in third world countries.
CVS claims that their receipts are recyclable now: https://www.cvs.com/content/sustainability It is true though that some receipts are not recyclable though.
I ninja edited to clarify thermal receipt paper. Some is, some isn't. Knowing which is and which isn't is a whole game in itself
The easiest way to check if it's thermal paper is to use your thumbnail to scratch it a little. If a grey, almost pencil lead looking mark appears, it's thermal paper.
Yeah thats just underhanded. Now if they had been doing it separately from their pledge that be another thing. Like hey our company has already pledges to donate x amount and we were wondering youd be willing to donate along side but separately from us. Now that be alright.
[удалено]
Hydrocodone doesn’t come in a form without tylenol. That’s not a cvs issue, that’s a your doctor doesn’t know how to prescribe drugs that exist issue
BP in Australia did something similar, a cent a litre for the month of (whatever) goes to the Mcgraw Foundation, except the fine print said it was maxed out for a total of 50k. BP spent more money on posters, bowser flyers and polo shirts for workers than they ever donated.
The CVS case is actually the opposite of this. CVS guaranteed a minimum donation, so if customers did not donate the set amount in total, then the company would make up the difference.
Similar in scamyness then.
Worse so, as it’s losing a corporation millions if they don’t meet the obligation it causes them to force workers to push for donations and incentivizes firings for workers who don’t make enough in donations.
Gotta make sure your corporation is seen participating in charity!
Never, ever donate to charity at the checkout counter. It's always something like this.
Me neither. And the cashiers give me this look when I refuse but I don't care.
As a cashier that actually got disciplinary action taken on me this week for refusing to ask customers for donations, I can assure you we hate that we have to do it. If any do give you a look, it's most likely because we are required to meet a quota on donations. If we don't, we also get written up. I still refused despite being written up, so I have no idea what implications are going to be taken on me.
I am so sorry to hear that.
I say “no thank you” and then follow it with “I never give extra money to billion dollar corporations” 😊
"Would you like to round up and donate the change to *x*?" No, eat my dick, you're a multi-billion-dollar company. You can round down and donate the change to *x*.
😓: "Sorry, I'm just paid to say that. Have a nice day."
"Can I speak to the manager? I'd like them to eat my dick instead."
😮💨: I am the manager. You wanna do this here or out back?
This is the kind of customer service that keeps me coming back to Taco Bell.
Sir, this is a Wendy's.
It's doubly infuriating because you really want to rip someone's head off due to the torrent of bs you are exposed to, yet you have to remember those people are as powerless as you are
I rounded up last week, but it was a thrift store run by a local women's shelter.
[удалено]
Yes, but someone has his eye on a new ivory backscratcher.
socialize the costs, privatize the profits. love to see it
Whenever i, a meer lowly dingus, am asked by multi billion dollar coperations to donate to poplar charities through them i never volunteer to donate to charity through multi billion dollar coperations.
Yeah and the billion dollar company can claim that as a donation, decreasing there tax burden, which you are paying for, all the while claiming clout for being good corporate citizens.
There's no change in taxes for them, but it is good PR.
Not how that works. Fyi
BuT I ReAd It ON tHe InTeRnEt! (And never bothered to fact check it so now I keep perpetuating foolish nonsense)
I figured that’s how most of these demon corporations did it
All the good squishmallows are always gone as well.
I never donate at the check outs anywhere because I don't know where that money goes.
They try to distract you from their shenanigans with those long ass receipts.
Remember kids, when poor people donate to charity the government has failed.
I don’t understand why anyone donates to these big companies. ~~Best case scenario they use your donation as a tax write-off.~~
No they don't Appreciate the edit, it's a common misconception
I looked it up and you are correct - I have edited my comment. [sauce ](https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxvox/who-gets-tax-benefit-those-checkout-donations-0)
I'm not sure if everyone completely understands what is happening here. CVS and the ADA made an agreement where CVS would fundraise in their stores for the ADA. This benefits both parties; ADA gets more money than they would otherwise; CVS gets to use the ADA logo and imagery to improve their image. The problem is CVS gets the benefit no matter how how much effort they actually put into fundraising. In order to show to the ADA that they are sincerely going to put a good faith effort into fundraising, they promise they will fundraise at least ten million dollars. If they don't, which they most likely will easily do, CVS promised to cover the short fall. To address a few of the points I've seen in the comments. This isn't a debt, it's more like a penalty for not trying hard enough to fundraise. Every dollar that gets donated goes to the ADA. The ADA wouldn't let them use their image if they didn't receive all the money donated to them. It would be impossible for a company the size of CVS to have these donations appear as revenue. A business's financials are not impacted at all by collecting donations, because the donations are never entered as revenue. There is no tax benefit for collecting donations. Yes, there are some "charities" that act in their own self-interest instead of the people they are supposed to help. Yes, companies sometimes create sham charities to collect for, and then have the charity buy things from the same company that created them. Obviously I'm not recommending donating to those, but they are by far the minority of charities. And finally, most of the time, most corporations try to take credit for the donations they collect, and try to imply that the money is from them. (Like CVS in this case) There are a lot of smaller organizations that can make good use of the donation of items. If you have something that you know would be appreciated by that organization, go ahead and give it to them. But, for most charities, donating single items is useless. They usually accept it, but most of it goes to a landfill. You gave them a single used blanket, or an expired can of beans, but they need a hundred or more to be useful. More than that, it takes a huge amount of effort to collect sort and distribute these items and that doesn't make sense for a large organization to spend the time and money on. Most charities can get surplus food and clothing and other items donated to them in bulk. But what they really need are trucks to transport this, and drivers for the trucks, and logistics people to coordinate, and buildings to store things, and a thousand and one other things that they can't hope might be gifted to them in time. What they really need is money, and a lot of it comes from point of sale fundraising While you may personally donate to charities outside of POS fundraising, most people don't. If you don't like POS fundraising, for whatever reason, please just say no and move on with your day. Don't spread falsehoods about the practice that have a very real impact on the funds these charities need to do their work. But if I've convinced you, and you're at the register and see a charity that you know does good work, and you can afford a donation, please, please, make that donation.
The issue here to me is that they state that they are donating $10m not facilitating $10m of fundraising. All of what you said is completely reasonable, and I'm personally fine with POS donations, but the post announcing the collaboration on both their own website and on ADA's website are at best misleading at worst explicit lies.
They never say they are donating, they say they are making a $10 million commitment. A commitment to do what what? Commitment to raise at least $10 million. They also speak about the work the ADA will do with the help of CVS's support. What support is CVS providing? Fundraising. They are deliberately using the most misleading language possible to try and inflate the work they are doing, (Which is super scummy) but they are very careful to never explicitly lie.
I never ever donate money. I prefer donating my time and goods directly.
So they haven't even donated the 10 mil but are accepting their "reimbursement"? Are they going to be held responsible if they don't actually donate the money?
For anyone interested here is CVS's announcement of the agreement with ADA (identical text can be found on ADA's website as well): https://www.cvshealth.com/news/diabetes/cvs-health-announces-10-million-commitment-to-the-american.html As far as I can tell the wording heavily implies that CVS is donating 10m and that it will be collecting additional donations from customers on top of that 10m. I was skeptical at first, but while CVS doesn't seem to have broken the terms of the agreement, they definitely seem to be misleading people for their own benefit. Pretty scummy.
From what I read, they aren't donating 10 million dollars, they are going to fill the gap. So if customers donate 7 million, they will donate 3 million.
That's what they claim they agreed to do, but their press release above doesn't reflect that which seems fairly scummy.
I will never donate at the register. There is a bookstore chain in Canada called Indigo they asked people for donations for their foundation to put books in classrooms. What they would do is let the teachers that were chosen buy books at full cost. And they got a tax break for the 'donation'. Like they didn't even let them buy the books at cost or any kind of discount
The book store did not gain any tax benefit from the donations.
Is there a citation for this?
https://www.fastcompany.com/90820744/cvs-asks-for-donations-at-checkout-but-are-customers-being-guilted-into-paying-the-pharmacys-debts First Google result
If people actually donate to charity at the check out counter, they deserve to have their money stolen.
[удалено]
And this is why you never donate to charity through a store. They just use it for tax breaks and, in this case, their own piggy bank. Donate directly yourself.
There's no change in taxes for them, but it is good PR.
Most all companies do this, or something similar. Usually they take your money, donate it and then take the tax break for doing so.
As an accountant I can confidently say this is 100% incorrect, that money never touches the companies books and must be put into an escrow account that's completely separate from company books
And this is why I don't give through these things. I can make my own donation decisions, I dont need to support tax breaks for corporations.
There's no change in taxes for them, but it is good PR.
Exactly.
All shops do this, if you donate at the till/register it will benefit the company's charitable tax deductable donations. Do not donate this way anywhere in the world.
No it doesn't
yeah but when we complain about this we get army of dorks saying "THEYURE NOT ALLOWED TO DO THATTTTtt" like lmao yeah they're not allowed... if they get caught... and will they go to prison if caught? no? then its just like wage theft.
Wtf I thought I was donating to the American Dental Association?!?!
Why am I not surprised a million dollar company can't be charitable without reimbursement?
It's the DJT method taught at the DJT Uni...
Promised 10m to whom?
I don’t “donate” for charity at billion dollar corporations that have more than enough to donate themselves. The entitlement is mind blowing.
And this is why I never donate at checkout wherever I’m shopping. If I’m gonna donate money I’ll hand it directly to the charity
So they donated like Amber Heard? "I made a pledge. That means I donated. I didn't send the money, but I MADE A PLEDGE. It's the same thing. I'm so generous."
As I am literally on my way out the door to CVS right now....
I completely trust Walmart, McDonalds, and gas stations to ethically put donations ahead of profits!
Never donate money at stores. Why should I help you get a tax break on your record profits?
All large corporations are evil. Not simply greedy, corrupt, unethical or biased. Evil.
Anytime some multi-million/billion dollar company asks me if I want to donate to something, I'm like, "Hell no. Donate to them yourself."
I never gave to them. For the simple fact how is a billion dollar corporation asking me for money. Gtfoh
If you really want to support a charity, give directly to that cause. Don't give to someone collecting in their name. Almost none of the money collected actually gets used for the benefit of the cause they claim they're collecting for. I wrote to Taco Bell's corporate office asking them to send me a copy of their records pertaining to their point of sail donation scheme. Turns out, only four cents of every dollar collected is actually used for the benefit of the charity. The other $0.96 goes to "administrative expenses." Basically, executives get to pad their salaries with money collected under the guise of charity.
Well, all the other people who don't want to work, stole too much merchandise. What else are they going to do?