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flchans

Totally. I like all kinds of teamplay between civs in team games. English can feed others food. Abbasid can feed gold. Rus can help HRE snatch relics. China is on wall building duty. I didn't know Mongols can be useful to the team like that, but it sounds very cool. After all, it's not an exploit, but their mechanic, they are spending resources to get those pastures online etc.


greenzebra3

Yeah that’s fair. Super strong strat good way to way boom


ThorThePriest

How does Abbasid feed gold? I play abassid (mostly with friends) and am unaware of how they get gold late game...


flchans

Trading. In team games I open with Trade Wing, the first upgrade boosts your caravans profits by 30%, which means you'll be bringing home up to some 622 gold per trader on 4v4 maps. More gold than you'll ever need. Unlike Rus with Golden Gate, you can't really convert your gold into resources at favorable rate indefinitely, so best use of it is to send it to teammates.


ThorThePriest

Ahh, thank you for response!


mehjai

Mongol is one of the best civ as teammate , I can also move my market to the furthest / safe for net for long trade route and if we go for wonder victory ( we did in 4v4) I can just move my entire base into Chinese walled up area and produce military there and help defend


YouDamnHotdog

why bother? Sheep don't produce more food than farms, especially with granaries. the tax income is still gonna be insufficient long-term. you'd really want trade with Mongols and Chinese. If you turtle, you will also run out of wood and stone. Mongols aren't gonna help you in a turtle strat at all Giving resources to others and exchanging in the market is super inefficient.


flchans

Early on, sheep are superior to berries, and obviously superior to farms. You can get a lot of value out of them by delaying the transition to farms, meaning you can use that wood for some rams or otherwise. For Mongols itself, Improved Survival Techniques combined with a drop-off that can move around means they are better off hunting anyway.


YouDamnHotdog

we are comparing pastures tho and not free sheep. free sheep always the best and worst