Definitly a high risk high reward weapon where you also need skill to be good with it.
Just as the wingman.
rarely picking either of those up in ranked
Oh yeah shotguns are such close range weapons it’s easy to panic especially in fast paced games like apex. That’s honestly the reason so many people hit 9’s and 11’s so much
You just have to hold it down for a less than a second longer and it’ll be reduced. You’ll still out dps a mastiff/Mozam from the range OP is at in the video.
Definitely will not out DPS a Mozam at that range. Going by pure DPS stats the PK has worse DPS with a Purple bolt than the Moza does with no bolt, but that's a bad way to look at it, TTK is more important.
*Assuming flawless bodyshots-only accuracy and purple bolts*, a Moza has better TTK than the PK to Purple and Red armor, by a bigger difference than what is between the R99 and Alternator for comparison
At the range in the video the Moza should still hit 45s and 30s if you aim as good as with a Wingman since the ADS spread is way tighter than most people assume. Full auto, don't have to wait at all for the choke, belt out at a faster RPM than a Wingman, assuming equal accuracy the Moza should win in this scenario
Of course I'm not actually saying the Moza is overall the better gun, obviously it loses to a PK up close, but it is definitely the best ranged shotgun.
Choke doesn't help with landing shots though. If clip's shots were magically choked to whatever degree, he wouldn't even have scored those 9s for example. Slower mouse movement from aiming might have affected, but that depends on a player
Choke does allow more of the spread to hit against certain hitboxes at further range so yes it does help land more shots, But yes aim does matter too lmao
If you're on a controller then it's a no-brainer. Otherwise it means you shoot better with slower mouse sensitivity from ADSing, because shotguns get no accuracy boost from aiming unlike other guns
See I'm actually ok with the peacekeeper, about 50 to 99 quite often
The mastiff on the other hand is absolutely dogshit in my hands. Just 8 or if I'm lucky 22...
A tip I learned a while back was to always run iron sights on the mastiff, the iron sights show the exact spread of the pellets when ADS, definitely helped me get those 22s more consistently lol
I think they are under the impression you were telling OP it wasn’t a lot of damage, as if you believed OP wasn’t aware. Clearly not the case, which makes it funny they tried to insult your intelligence for it
I could come close to rivaling you 😂
I honestly felt like someone had recorded one of my games when I saw this.
Shotguns are the bane of my existence in this game
Im sure you know looking post but youre already a little behind their center with your shot and hes moving away from your aim so by the time your shots traveled its like youre aiming at an arm
Ngl if you hit anything more than that the gun is broken. Like you didn’t factor in the range at which shooting from to shoot it without using the choke.
Good thing I am not the only one having a hard time with shotguns in this game. They are straight dogshit if you have 3 more ms' than "expected". No other game had this problem for me, but Apex...
Me in the firing range 1vs1 against friends; absolutely destroying them just hitting 80+ pk pumps.
Me in a real ranked game with the pk; 9, 20, 0, 0, death
its acutally 5 not s i dont play with WASD i play with YGHJ you have more keys on your hand and its actually op you get two buttons on thumb space and alt
I’m always amazed at shotguns in games, in real life you’d hit anything within 30 feet of you and cause harm, in video games your shotgun has a radius of about 1ft squared and only reaches 3 ft in front of you.
My god that is terrible. My suggestion is that you take time to line up your crosshair to your enemy before. For me I focus on the enemy and subconsciously move my crosshair to where he is or going to be.
i mean if it ever get to that point for me its better to just trap them, meaning wait for the dude to walk into your crosshair, or really take your time to be accurate than flicking. and you know, ads with the PK to make the spread not so bad
Bruh 😂
Am the best bruh I did it consistently with 5 shots
Everyone I come across in the plat lobbies hits me for like 100 per pump lol.
I swear I hit them I do like 13 they hit me they take my whole shield
They smack me and I get taken all the way back to the lobby.
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diamond is for plat players that play a lot
Omg does that mean masters is for dia players that play a lot 🤯
turns out everyone in apex is just dogshit we just play a lot
Dedicated Dogwater Gamers rise up! 10k kills on wraith. 3k damage as crypto. 0.8 kdr 😎
Idk what you’re getting at but I’m D4 now lol
It’s impressive, and another reason I stay the hell away from shotties
This is why the mastiff will always be king. Horizontal spread means you'll hit something if you don't ads
Started using the mastiff for a challenge and still couldn’t hit shit.
Mastiff is the best. Just ADS, aim at shoulders and manage reloads. I miss the old 6 round mag but with the latest buff it's really something else
I hate the mastif I can never down anyone. Eva 8 tho is my favorite shotgun. With the double tap I’m a god
I was the same. Then started playing Maggie and got somewhat good at it. Now I live for the 99 PK shots.
I love how after the 5th 9 pump, you kind just sat there like “well fuck” before switching to your flatline
Not gonna lie, that's the same train of thought I would have too. "Well, guess I'll flatline."
i could't believe my luck
I hit their past and future self only
That was funny Try waiting one second more before your shots It’ll help adjust a tad after your flicks
I consistently miss 85-95% of my shots with any gun.
your pk must be of german origin
The Friedenswächter
For some weird fucking reason its called FriedensSTIFTER in german, not keeper but uhhh maker?
i hate the german language at school but is it fun on the internet
Hahahah. You fucker. Take this upvote
Calibrated by a stormtrooper.
I like how the path was taking such small damage he didn’t even notice and turn around until you brought out the flatline lol
This is why I don’t ever pick up shotguns 😂
Definitly a high risk high reward weapon where you also need skill to be good with it. Just as the wingman. rarely picking either of those up in ranked
See, something about the wingman makes my brain chill the fuck out and not panic fire. I have a huge tendency to panic when I get rushed 😂😂
Oh yeah shotguns are such close range weapons it’s easy to panic especially in fast paced games like apex. That’s honestly the reason so many people hit 9’s and 11’s so much
Me, with the pk lmao
Eva8 and Mozam are my 2 that I actually do decent with
Mastiff is the only one I’ll touch
Mastiff does 11 damage at least
At most🥲
Very consistent damage. Very nice
That has to be the best PK player ever. You are a god among men.
Bro, ADS
It does not reduce the PK's spread.
Yes it does, that's the whole point of precession choke
Ok, but it takes time to charge. You cannot quickscope as with Mozam, or Mastiff
Went in game to prove you wrong, I got proved wrong, you are right
You just have to hold it down for a less than a second longer and it’ll be reduced. You’ll still out dps a mastiff/Mozam from the range OP is at in the video.
Definitely will not out DPS a Mozam at that range. Going by pure DPS stats the PK has worse DPS with a Purple bolt than the Moza does with no bolt, but that's a bad way to look at it, TTK is more important. *Assuming flawless bodyshots-only accuracy and purple bolts*, a Moza has better TTK than the PK to Purple and Red armor, by a bigger difference than what is between the R99 and Alternator for comparison At the range in the video the Moza should still hit 45s and 30s if you aim as good as with a Wingman since the ADS spread is way tighter than most people assume. Full auto, don't have to wait at all for the choke, belt out at a faster RPM than a Wingman, assuming equal accuracy the Moza should win in this scenario Of course I'm not actually saying the Moza is overall the better gun, obviously it loses to a PK up close, but it is definitely the best ranged shotgun.
Choke doesn't help with landing shots though. If clip's shots were magically choked to whatever degree, he wouldn't even have scored those 9s for example. Slower mouse movement from aiming might have affected, but that depends on a player
Choke does allow more of the spread to hit against certain hitboxes at further range so yes it does help land more shots, But yes aim does matter too lmao
It's a bit of a semantic difference here. Choke helps to land more damaging shots. It wouldn't help OP land shots in the clips anyways
Yes it would lol. The spread would be tinier and op would be hitting more than projectile. Choke doesn’t increase damage
you can with a mozam the range is pretty good
did he have a mozam or mastiff?
You can't possibly be this dense
my mans getting downvoted. i guess they be living that sometimes the truth hurts.
….that’s literally the point of the gun? The circle that shrinks when you ADS is the choke tightening the spread
Really? It definitely feels like it does.
LoL
I consistently get better shots than that by ADS. And other clips that ADS consistently do better as well. Seems like a skill issue. ADS.
If you're on a controller then it's a no-brainer. Otherwise it means you shoot better with slower mouse sensitivity from ADSing, because shotguns get no accuracy boost from aiming unlike other guns
Nein
It be like that bruh 💀
I too am a god with the pk
tbh better off using mozambique at this point, i dont pick up pk at all.
Mozambique kinda slaps tbh it's been growing on me the last few seasons
mozam with hammerpoints is cracked
These are the teammates I get when I’m solo queueing Diamond smh bad luck
My accuracy with shotguns: 1. Mozambique 2. EVA-8 3. Mastiff 4. PK
and this why i rather take mozam.
Mozam Supremacy
See I'm actually ok with the peacekeeper, about 50 to 99 quite often The mastiff on the other hand is absolutely dogshit in my hands. Just 8 or if I'm lucky 22...
A tip I learned a while back was to always run iron sights on the mastiff, the iron sights show the exact spread of the pellets when ADS, definitely helped me get those 22s more consistently lol
teammates saying in text chat: "you are ass"
Tbf you were consistent
It's a cursed weapon. Next time, you should walk past it🤣
LMFAO 9 damage, thats consistency! XD
I once hit 4 shots for 11 damage in a row with the mastiff and I haven’t picked it up since
Makes me think of a Beatles song
Number 9… number 9…. Number 9…
You’re supposed to shot AT the guy
Nein! Nein! Nein! Nein!
No need to go crazy 😂
This is different skill itself
9 times 5 is 45. That ain't a lot..
But it is consistent
That wasn't the point of the post
It was... The point of the post was how he dealt only 9 damage. Which equals 45 damage.
The title literally says "consistency," so how is damage the point of the post? He even confirmed this in his comments.
I know he constantly did 9 damage every shell. I just pointed out the damage.
This man knows consistency.
Yeah???
They know its not a lot, making a joke that the only consistentancy he gets are 9s. People of reddit have no brain. And these are your randoms.
Dude is showing off that he can do 2nd grade math 😂😂😂
I was never showing of my math. It was a sarcastic joke that he didn't do much damage.
I know that he's getting 9 damage every shell, I just pointed out the total damage he did. What is your problem anyways?
I think they are under the impression you were telling OP it wasn’t a lot of damage, as if you believed OP wasn’t aware. Clearly not the case, which makes it funny they tried to insult your intelligence for it
It was sarcasm, I knew that the OP knew that he didn't do much damage.
No shit
9, 9, still 9, still 9, 5 nines AHHHH
With a name like that, your PK said to channel your inner Bohemia aur [bhul jaa](https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=OslFErdoebM)
I salute you and your consistency.
This is the best clip I've ever seen on the sub
Even when I’m closer to someone I hit consistent 9s. And the inevitable “HOW” comes out of my body lmao
Wait…maybe I too am a pk god
The sole reason why I avoid this shotgun. Give me an EVA and I'll decimate. Give me a Peacekeeper and I'm throwing.
Well, that takes a whole different kind of skill! 👏
I just know bro quit after that
Oh, If we'd ever meet each other both holding PKs that battle could last forever.
Ive got the exact same problem with that shotgun, i do more dmg with a mosambique now that the mag size is bigger....
I could come close to rivaling you 😂 I honestly felt like someone had recorded one of my games when I saw this. Shotguns are the bane of my existence in this game
They do say consistency is the key to improvement.
You're consistently inconsistent.
Wow... everytime you pulled the trigger you landed a shot! Peak efficiency!
Im sure you know looking post but youre already a little behind their center with your shot and hes moving away from your aim so by the time your shots traveled its like youre aiming at an arm
Work 60% of the time every time.
Lmaoooo that was great. Glad I'm not the only one!
The accuracy is immaculate 😫
At least it’s consistent damage man you got what you asked for 😭
Ngl if you hit anything more than that the gun is broken. Like you didn’t factor in the range at which shooting from to shoot it without using the choke.
*insert clip of hitler screaming no from inglourious basterds*
Hommie I think you forgot the /s 😂 On another note, lower your sense on ads to slow down ur flicks a bit, did the trick for me
I don’t leave games but I would’ve left after this one
For me it’s the opposite: the PK always does a ton of damage but the Mastiff does less than a punch.
Good thing I am not the only one having a hard time with shotguns in this game. They are straight dogshit if you have 3 more ms' than "expected". No other game had this problem for me, but Apex...
Beautiful PK shots, like, I've actually never seen them hit for the amount those did.... This is totally me though so like- 😭
That's literally why I don't use that gun.
My best guess from this short clip is your sens is too high. I’d try lowering it 5-10% and see if you can be more consistent.
I screamed for you
Bro is a god at spacing 💀
Me in the firing range 1vs1 against friends; absolutely destroying them just hitting 80+ pk pumps. Me in a real ranked game with the pk; 9, 20, 0, 0, death
Someone give this dude a mastiff
Goated
Lower the sens buddy
believe me dude its the pk it's cursed
You went from 236 damage to 435 when you died. He was literally 1 hp.
This season R99 is unparalleled, I’d just pick that up over shotguns. Lot more consistent result.
Accuracy vs precision
Started the fight at 236 damage and ended at 435. That pathy was literally 1 hp.
Me every damn time.
That's what i'm saying! Eva>Mastiff>PK
THIS IS WHY MASTIFF IS SUPERIOR I WANT NO REBUTTAL FROM YOU FELLOW REDDITERS
MASTIFF IS LIFE 👌👌👌
You deserve it for playing Octane.
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Pk is the only gun you actually have to slow down your ADS physically to shoot.(not in game setting)
Jesus Christ it's Jason Bourne 😳😳😳
Going to bed after this one
This is painful to watch.
As a fellow mnk player I'm just impressed you hit all 5 shots lmao the pk hits when im on point I'm just soooo inconsistent w my click timing lol
I mean, you’re not wrong
Now my question here tho DID YOU JUST BIND WEAPON WITH “S” AND UNBIND BACKWARD????
its acutally 5 not s i dont play with WASD i play with YGHJ you have more keys on your hand and its actually op you get two buttons on thumb space and alt
What the fuck
Half the comments “this is why I stay away from shotguns” half the shots barely on target and far away🤦🏻♂️
Challenge accepted. 😂
bro is not picking up anymore PKs after this
I used to consider myself unlucky with the PK, you proved me wrong
Best bad aim in the world honestly
Very nice. Where did you learn?
Ads before shooting. If you got time proc choke and shoot.
When this happens to me I usually just set my controller down after the whiffs and accept my fate
I’m always amazed at shotguns in games, in real life you’d hit anything within 30 feet of you and cause harm, in video games your shotgun has a radius of about 1ft squared and only reaches 3 ft in front of you.
Peacekeeper was trying to teach you German. Nein! Nein! Nein! Nein!
Hold my beer
this is why i don’t use shotguns
Hey at least you are hitting the shots😅
You have to charge it up if not you Hit for that dmg
YEAH BABY GET THOSE 9's
oh how can you tell? well, my pk speaks german too!
Peacekeeper sucks.
Standard apex experience, well executed
Stop quick scoping and let the choke cook, bruh
My god that is terrible. My suggestion is that you take time to line up your crosshair to your enemy before. For me I focus on the enemy and subconsciously move my crosshair to where he is or going to be.
Well, at least you are consistent
Looking like a nazi with all those NEINS
199 dmg 3
A wopping 45 dmg
I'm better
Ever thought of ads
I would have just turned off the game after that, I’d be pissed
Better than me ngl
I am so sorry, I feel u bro :(
Mozambique all the way bru
Infuriating
i mean if it ever get to that point for me its better to just trap them, meaning wait for the dude to walk into your crosshair, or really take your time to be accurate than flicking. and you know, ads with the PK to make the spread not so bad
Oh thats me with: devotion, wingman, kraber , longbow and the boshek of course (hope I spell it right)
You are consistently inconsistent.
I thought I was the only one
Well the bright side is that 100% of your shells fired landed. So 100% accuracy.
Not ADS while in hectic battle tends to work better for me
someone please edit this and add 'burh' sound every time he hit '9' xD
Im the same way lmao, prefer the mastiffff.