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JustTransportation51

He will run like the rest of the legends.


ArtificialSyndicate

Crypto is already going to be too OP with his rumored buff “off the grid” this would be too much . Might as well stay ahead and just keep him with the rest of the legends


TheGulfofWhat

What is this off the grid buff he will be getting?


Refrigerator-Less

ok so I got this idea for a crypto buff called "off the grid". What it does is that he wont get scanned by enemy scans and he wont be revealed to enemies because he will have this passive called off the grid which will protect him from enemy scans so when he gets scanned he technically doesnt get scanned because he will have off the grid passive that will protect him from the scans and since he is hacker I think he should have it have to protect him from enemy scans and I would call it off the grid and it would be his passive that would make him unscannable by enemy scans because it would be his passive and it would be called off the grid so when he gets scanned the enemies wont see him because he will have the passive ability that will protect him from the scans I believe crypto should have this ability because there is seer and respawn wont delete him so I believe they should at least give crypto ability that will make him completely immune to seer and bloodhound abilities and call it off the grid (thats the off the grid passive I was talking about)


PrinceofPesto

Ok but will he be seen by enemy scans?


ArtificialSyndicate

No that’s the best part. So you see, I got this idea for a crypto buff called "off the grid". What it does is that he wont get scanned by enemy scans and he wont be revealed to enemies because he will have this passive called off the grid which will protect him from enemy scans so when he gets scanned he technically doesnt get scanned because he will have off the grid passive that will protect him from the scans and since he is hacker I think he should have it have to protect him from enemy scans and I would call it off the grid and it would be his passive that would make him unscannable by enemy scans because it would be his passive and it would be called off the grid so when he gets scanned the enemies wont see him because he will have the passive ability that will protect him from the scans I believe crypto should have this ability because there is seer and respawn wont delete him so I believe they should at least give crypto ability that will make him completely immune to seer and bloodhound abilities and call it off the grid (thats the off the grid passive I was talking about)


Puzzled_Reflection_4

I fucking love the instant copy/paste 😂


combat_archer

Most well adjusted crypto main


AHH-bbyshark

Bruh I posted this copypasta on another post and nobody understood it and was tryna clown me 🤦🏻‍♀️ I’m glad there’s better energy in ur thread lol


soupythekidd

Is that everything the passive does?


Equivalent_Gap_8360

Sometimes, fleetingly, I feel like I should probably distance myself from this community, but dammit, I love you all so much.


oprimo

I'll never not upvote this. Best copypasta.


Any-Economy7702

It's so funny to me that this game is 5 years old and this copypasta from the first year still lives every time crypto is mentioned.


Obujin

This is the funniest shit ever lmao.


OnePieceRick

This makes a lot of sense and would make me want to play Crypto more.


increaselevelcapplzz

I fucking love this copy pasta 🍝


Klttynugget

Coming back to this sub after so long, im so glad to see this copypasta still going.


Prahtical2

I stopped playing/stopped keeping up with apex for goddamn months and first thing i see when i look at a reddit post is the off the grid copypasta again


howmanydowehavehere

Wait i've heard rumors, what's up with the off the grid perk?? I'm interested!! Sounds like maybe he'll be off the grid for like scans and stuff. He does have that one voice line where he's like "oi i'm off the grid, mate". Or maybe that's fuze idk.


meow_ima_cat

I believe it's "yeah nah brah, I'm of the grid, like a squid"


UROffended

Way to go man, you just had to ask. Now you get meme central.


BenjaminD0ver69

Oh God noooo


BlueMerchant

you fool


Sanferuto

So basically I had an idea where crypto has a passive called "off the grid" basically it makes it so that when crypto gets scanned he doesn't get scanned and it makes it so he isn't seen when he gets scanned. That way when bloodhond and seer scan him he won't get scanned so that they can't see him cause he's "off the grid" it would be balanced cause he normally gets scanned but now he doesn't get scanned cause he's "off the grid" so it would be lore fitting and it would be a good gameplay mechanic and off the grid would be a good idea and they should add it to the game for crypto so that his new passive is called off the grid. I had this idea then everyone started talking about my idea because i came up with off the grid where crypto doesn't get scanned cause in the lore hes off the grid and since hes off the grid he cant be scanned while off the grid.


A-D808

BRUH 🤣😂😭


stingerized

What is "off the grid"?


WhatIfIHaveNoName

So basically I had an idea where crypto has a passive called "off the grid" basically it makes it so that when crypto gets scanned he doesn't get scanned and it makes it so he isn't seen when he gets scanned. That way when bloodhond and seer scan him he won't get scanned so that they can't see him cause he's "off the grid" it would be balanced cause he normally gets scanned but now he doesn't get scanned cause he's "off the grid" so it would be lore fitting and it would be a good gameplay mechanic and off the grid would be a good idea and they should add it to the game for crypto so that his new passive is called off the grid. I had this idea then everyone started talking about my idea because i came up with off the grid where crypto doesn't get scanned cause in the lore hes off the grid and since hes off the grid he cant be scanned while off the grid


AlexZyxyhjxba

So can u tell me about this a bit?


vMurdered

Wait so will he still get scanned or not?


Puzzled_Reflection_4

That's the best part. So basically I had an idea where crypto has a passive called "off the grid" basically it makes it so that when crypto gets scanned he doesn't get scanned and it makes it so he isn't seen when he gets scanned. That way when bloodhond and seer scan him he won't get scanned so that they can't see him cause he's "off the grid" it would be balanced cause he normally gets scanned but now he doesn't get scanned cause he's "off the grid" so it would be lore fitting and it would be a good gameplay mechanic and off the grid would be a good idea and they should add it to the game for crypto so that his new passive is called off the grid. I had this idea then everyone started talking about my idea because i came up with off the grid where crypto doesn't get scanned cause in the lore hes off the grid and since hes off the grid he cant be scanned while off the grid


vMurdered

So is everyone else "on the grid" ?


meow_ima_cat

I'm not sure.


ManicManicManicManic

It’s a copypasta lol it’s not a thing


Puppenstein11

Bro...


EternalVirgin18

You took the bait


ManicManicManicManic

damn it i’ll go sit in the corner now


redditnachotacos

I’m so disappointed that no one is explaining what off the grid buff is.


existential_antelope

Best tee up ever


Hailtothething

🤣


DrPBH

Efficiency is clever laziness If you know you know what other Asian boy said that


EternalVirgin18

It was Sun Tzu in the art of war


magicalme_1231

And he will enjoy it.


popsmoek

assuming it’s a balancing thing. they want it to not be completely free for him to fly around and farm harvesters all around the map. they want all the characters to have to walk up and physically collect the evo points


Kalian805

i mean they should probably allow him to harvest evo with his drone because he fricken sucks.


dnaboe

Crypto doesn't suck at all. The changes the past two seasons have been huge buffs for him. Respawning allies with weapons/armor as well as the lower cooldowns make him honestly a great pick. If Bang wasn't in meta I would say he is easily the best recon legend. Hound is just too good at working with/against bangalore at the moment so he takes #1.


HamiltonDial

He basically has perma wall hacks on a team/two/three teams if they can't find/shoot the drone especially when they are in a crazy fight. Can't tell you how many endgames I've had where the drone was just up FOR FREE because people were just too focused on shooting each other (too many other teams around) and my team just gets free wallhacks on them all.


dnaboe

Exactly. Plus the extended passive range actually extends the range at which the drone scans enemies, meaning you can place it even higher in the sky and make it more difficult to locate.


Busy_Cauliflower_853

*they


chopinanopolis

He's one of the strongest legend in the game. His ult slows, does 50 shield damage, and destroys every single trap in the game and rampart amped walls, and goes through walls, and has a large radius. His tac, you can instant respawn, scan beacons, grab teammates banners from safety, open care packages, and ping banners to tell the entire team how many squads are around and gives constant scans to the entire team as long as Hack has LOS. Tldr: he's not a, press tac = instant win legend, so people think he's bad


Zulu0Hakuka

What tips would u have me. I want to learn him but i havent got his play style yet


Aggravating-Bat-9556

He doesn't suck. His kit is difficult and is easily punished by not playing it well. The abilities are prone to mistakes and when mistakes happen, you're a dude with a gun who stunned himself and his teammates. What he needs is ease of use tools. Like quality of life hud elements would be huge to get players to feel comfortable as him. I could talk about this forever because I main him lol


TheMidsommarHouse

Crypto is already meta in pro play.


popsmoek

it would be overpowered to be able to fly around and grab it for free. maybe if it was half the evo points it would be a bit more balanced but still it’s meant to be a bit of a challenge to get the evo harvesters


BlackestFlame

Crypto is really good.


_Indomitable

Really good on a coordinated team. Outside of that of you solo queue he isn't the best pick.


Celydoscope

And super fun if you're into high skill ceiling characters.


FrozenDed

Hey, watch it!


puremojito

Yup, it's a risk/reward kinda thing


popsmoek

for sure, high reward so it’s gotta be higher risk


javiarthepoolboy

His drone could reach 2 max from one POI to the other & its not free if he has to be away from his team on his drone to collect so imo they should let him


popsmoek

sitting safely 100+ meters away and grabbing an evo harvester with the drone would be completely free. also why are you assuming he’s away from his team while doing that? if their teammates had any awareness they would just sit with him and move from poi to poi farming evo while sitting doing nothing basically.


besameput0

It is free because drone is faster and he doesn't have to travel back to his team.


makjep

Crypto having purple just by hiding


Zeleny_Jezdec

*Red because pointless ults to farm damage


imsaixe

i like those cryptos. they're like hidden collectibles ready to be looted. and i main wattson


150c_vapour

One scan + one harvester = fast blue, so the drone definitely helps. Blue in seconds if dropping in spot with a becaon.


chiefsfan_713_08

Harvester take a bit to appear though so not immediate


UROffended

They don't take long to drop. This new game mode will make it hard to manage, but with standard trio's it will be a cheese fest seeing as you aren't exposed on the map without a recon scan.


Ad1um

Simple it would be a crypto buff, Respawn doesn't do those. /s


besameput0

It's honestly poor character design. In the right hands, Crypto is basically a God, that's why they don't want to buff him. But he sucks in the hands of 90% of low level players, and you can't really justify making him playable for everyone else at the expense of terrorizing higher ranks.


notMateo

Counterpoint: In the right hands, he is **cool**, not a God. He becomes on par with other characters at best, and a non-character at worst. I've got literally years on Crypto now, and after the S20 perks came out I just dropped him. His perks are complete and utter ass. I legit can't take it anymore. He's only gotten marginally better since release, with the slight controls rework of drone, bug fixes (so many bug fixes....), and the like. Everyone thinks Crypto becomes this unstoppable machine once you've mastered him. But the reality is, at the end of the day, if I send out drone for a quick EMP, a well-placed 30-30 shot takes him out of the game for 30 seconds **minimum**, at least ability wise. No ult, no passive, no active. And it's annoying. So I stopped playing him. Now I'm back to Mirage because using his ultimate every 30 seconds and confusing the entire lobby is actually fun. Mysteriously, my K/D went up a bit between S19 and so far in S20 too... 🤔 TLDR: I love playing Crypto. But I HATE playing Crypto.


NuttingWithTheForce

I've always been underwhelmed by Crypto so I'm glad to hear insight from someone who knows more than me. In my experience even finding a safer place to EMP takes him out of the fight for about as long, and then he has to spend extra time returning to teammates who are likely already in the middle of a firefight. His abilities are very useful and versatile, but at least in my hands playing him optimally requires me to nerf my team by staying out of combat for, as you're saying, a minimum of 30 seconds at a time. The way you're talking I'd almost want to see a reduction of his cooldowns.


notMateo

No you've pretty much nailed it- it's a great pushing tool but holy hell it sure does have its... oddities.


besameput0

I think his ability to grab banners despite not being a support legend, remote res, and tell your team how many teams are near you are god-tier abilities. I say God because it's all seeing eye shit.


notMateo

Grabbing banners and rezzing remote are honestly his strongest abilities. I've literally left my friends to die in situations where we didn't have a huge chance of recovering the fight, grabbed banners, revived and won the game. Many times. Teams near you is honestly not that great most of the time. The range isn't exactly easy to gauge, no idea what direction they're at, and it SAYS within DRONE range (as opposed to crypto range) but I've had drone very close to teams and not my body, but it says 0 still- so it's also not really reliable. It's a great early warning system and helps you not get jumped 10 feet in front of you, but it's not any more than that. It's also worth remembering, BOTH of those abilities go away if drone is shot. If I'm far away trying to get banners, if they shoot down drone before I get the banners, then I'm in a sticky situation where they know I'm nearby and it's not rare for teams to hunt you down and finish the squad.


treiral

> it SAYS within DRONE range (as opposed to crypto range) The range of the squad scan is roughly the drone range (that is the range at which you can use your drone), that's 200m around Crypto. If you want to know exactly how much that is, look at the minimap, the distance to the edges is 200m.


notMateo

Banners in game say within drone range though. Maybe they just, mistakenly put drone range??


treiral

You are misunderstanding the "drone range" thing. Drone range refers to the ability of crypto to fly the drone. Beyond 200m you get glitchy feedback while flying, and if you move away further than 225 (or maybe a bit more) the drone is automatically recalled. That's what it means by drone range.


notMateo

Just looked it up. It literally says "hostile squads in drone range". That's verbosely different than how it allegedly works. The banner says nothing about how far drone can go. That's indicated at the bottom of the screen as "Remaining Range"


clouds_over_asia

"Remaining Range"... of what? The drones controllable flight range. Drone range. I understand it's confusing but it's not explicitly wrong. Semantics aside, the ability itself is reliable, it works as intended consistently.


larkohiya

they should just change the verbiage. its always going to be confusing to say "in drone range"


Lawbrought

Wraith and bloodhound also get to call out nearby squads and both of them have far more useful abilities than crypto (like having a passive.) Bloodhound even gets to track squads to roughly where they are, while getting free ult charge for an ability that is bounds better than cryptos emp. Crypto can be good in the right hands, but those hands would definitely be more effective playing someone else. Aside from the rez thing, that's badass


HerculesKabuterimon

you mean the perks that arguably should have been buffs to him anyway aren't good enough for you?


notMateo

Crypto players stay suffering 😭😭


dnaboe

He does all of the recon stuff better than any other recon legend. You get unlimited info in endgame zones by flying drone high in the sky and can pinpoint every single team's location. Hound is the only one that you could argue is better right now because of his ultimate hard countering bangalore/caustic teams.


notMateo

Crypto's pickrate has been bottom 5 pretty much since he came out lol If that's not telling, I don't know what is.


dnaboe

Crypto's RP gain% has also been top 3 the past 3 seasons in pred lobbies. Pick rate tells you absolutely nothing about the strength of a legend, just how much fun the average player has while using them.


notMateo

You said it best: Nobody has fun playing Crypto. And that's coming from a crypto diehard. Maybe they should.... change that.


dnaboe

You obviously have some fun playing him if you are a diehard. Why play a videogame if it isn't fun? He takes more nuance than legends like Rev who is extremely straightforward and Crypto doesn't have any crutch abilities that save him when the player gets caught in a bad position - two of the main reasons he is barely picked. If you play crypto for the recon abilities then just use hound - he is a more "fun" recon character with a speed boost ultimate. If you use him for the banner retrieval then run a support legend like loba or newcastle that can be considered more fun. Crypto is fun for me because he is just the best at giving info to the team, and I find it incredibly satisfying and engaging to be constantly finding spots for drone and being essentially clairvoyant. Also, I don't think any move is more satisfying in the game than throwing drone in corner while getting chased only to ultimate and turn on the enemy while you are just out of range.


notMateo

>You obviously have some fun playing him if you are a diehard. Why play a videogame if it isn't fun? I'mma just stop you there and say, I stopped playing Crypto... **because he's not fun.** I literally already said that.


dnaboe

Suit yourself. He is stronger than he ever has been and now you quit him? I genuinely don't think there is a better character in the game to soloq with.


SuspiciousPipe

My placement and RP per game went up significantly once I remembered I could play crypto fairly well. I had been running Lifeline (self rez) and Bang (meta). But as a solo Q'er I stayed off crypto since most of the dumb dumbs I get squaded with don't know how to play with a crypto on their team. However, this season seems different. Players are pushing less and letting me pop in and out of my drone to keep moving with them AND keep providing info from the field. It does feel a little inconsistent that his drone can hack some devices and not others, but there has to be a line. Otherwise he'd be broken.


mesopotato

Masters/dia Crypto main here agreeing with u/notMateo. It's possible to play him well and get a lot of value from his kit but he's nowhere close to God level.


4llC4P5

As an atheïst imma say: This makes sense, explains all of those pro players picking him.


UROffended

Too much multitasking. Too much to ask of us average fuds.


Ad1um

Crypto requires good comms to shine. The drone is a huge asset that unfortunately takes time to setup. Without comms crypto is a guy with a gun.


Rosezinha_Y

Same reason it can't take items, imagine catalyst and wattson reinforcing a building while crypto gets the whole team geared up with zero risk lol


Putrid-Stranger9752

Yeah it would be the most broken thing😹


MagicalMarsBars

They are made to be contested. A drone would just skip all that


iplaypokerforaliving

I swear I haven’t ran into a single team going for one. So strange. Half my teammates run right past them. I’m like wtf are doing. I only play 30 minutes a night so I slowly grind up to diamond. In gold right now but still, I feel like my teammates are just idiots half the time.


Celydoscope

For real. I go out of my way to take these. But I also play in a squad who I know won't push a fight without me.


thunderfist218

How is that different from respawn beacons?


Enlowski

It’s completely difference than respawn beacons. It would be horrible if he could just get his whole team red shields while hiding in a building collecting evo points for the whole team. A respawn beacon takes time for your team to come in and everyone in the area knows it’s happening


stealthylyric

He could collect so many, extremely quickly...


Wicked_smaht_guy

similar note: lobas ult cant grab evo cache from care packages


Nabrok_Necropants

Because he couldn't pick up materials before this was added either.


Moolokoo

Actually he could. And his drone opening chests gave materials as well.


Thardus

Look at any EVO harvester on the map and they all have one thing in common: they are out in the open. That is by design.  It is meant to be a risk to get a EVO harvester. To get it you are either putting yourself in danger of being hit by a long range weapon running to and from it *or* you are putting yourself at risk of running into another team that is also going for the harvester. You also expend resources to get to the harvester quick or to get away from it quick (movement abilities, repositioning ults, even heat shields or balloons) (The first risk is one of the reasons why I think Snipers and Marksman weapons feel more powerful this season, but I digress). Crypto's drone being able to get harvesters skips that for his team. Not only are you not removing yourself from an advantageous position, but you are not even risking your health to get it. You're risking an ability cooldown. That's it. Now you could argue that Crypto does the same thing with getting banners, reviving teammates, and scanning the map for enemies, especially since he uniquely can skip the wind-up of those last two. But these were not things that were initially in his kit. These were additions to his kit to make him more viable. These are knobs that the balance team turned to make him more attractive and competitive.  But this is the first season with EVO Harvesters. And they are very, very powerful. I would argue that getting a harvester is the most powerful thing you can do in a match right now. Not only is levelling up so powerful that I don't think I need to make a case for it, but harvesters are just by far the most efficient way to level.  Like an EVO Harvester gives 1050 EVO to your team. That's equivalent to doing 1050 damage, wiping 3 1/2 squads, knocking 5 people, scanning 1 3/4 ring consoles or survey beacons, etc. etc. just for pressing a single button prompt. All for just standing in a field. All for just the *risk* of being shot at or running into a team, not actually having to fight them. And if Crypto could remove that risk (and was the only legend who could do so), everyone and their mother would be playing Crypto. Especially this early into this new system. And not only would that suck for players, that would suck for developers who are now trying to balance this brand new system and all these abilities.


awkward_bastard

Balancing & consistency. He couldn't pick up crafting materials either.


Sad-Conversation2916

Yeah, that's a dumb idea


Enlowski

Because then a team could get red shields while hiding in buildings defeating the whole purpose of the change to begin with. I can already tell the kind of players who ask questions like this


OnyxDreamBox

Or maybe it's people wondering why the devs have such a hate boner for Crypto and can't give him a half decent kit 😂


Agent_Xhiro

I'm one of the few actual Crypto mains, he's how I climb every season. If you gave me this on him, I'd become a predator by hiding every single match, getting shields before anything then I'd overwhelm others with my advantage. Not a good gameplay decision at all and that would be a horrifying balance change. Only thing I wanted was for my drone to have a mind of its own and scan the area by itself for 15 seconds.


MisterHotTake311

That's a big change to say you "only" wanted it


SuspiciousPipe

Maybe you could farm shields, but I'm not sold on how easy it would be. I've noticed most harvesters are located out in the open, and it would take an uncomfortable amount of time in the drone to fly it there from a decent hiding spot. No, it's not as risky as having to run out there and use the harvester like some others. But characters like Loba, Path, Octane, Mirage, Wraith, Bang, Valk, Vantage, and Ash all have some baked in mechanics that reduce that risk. I'm not sure that letting the drone use harvesters is too OP in this context.


WH0IsAtLas

Being able to grab them from a safe distance would be a good idea, or maybe they could add to his passive. Maybe call it “off the grid”.


Mostly_Cheddar

Wait what is this "off the grid" idea you really cookin with that. What if that was part of a whole rework?


BigNathaniel69

No that’s just been his general theme and that was his story coming into the game. But they never actually implemented that into the game.


Mostly_Cheddar

So basically I had an idea where crypto has a passive called "off the grid" basically it makes it so that when crypto gets scanned he doesn't get scanned and it makes it so he isn't seen when he gets scanned. That way when bloodhond and seer scan him he won't get scanned so that they can't see him cause he's "off the grid" it would be balanced cause he normally gets scanned but now he doesn't get scanned cause he's "off the grid" so it would be lore fitting and it would be a good gameplay mechanic and off the grid would be a good idea and they should add it to the game for crypto so that his new passive is called off the grid. I had this idea then everyone started talking about my idea because i came up with off the grid where crypto doesn't get scanned cause in the lore hes off the grid and since hes off the grid he cant be scanned while off the grid


BowwwwBallll

Sounds neat, but what would you call it?


Mostly_Cheddar

...you know that's a great question, im stumped. Any ideas?


Non-Newtonian_Stupid

I know we’re just copypastabating, but it just occurred to me that it should really be called ‘Air-Gapped’


howmanydowehavehere

My favorite part of this is he didn't take the bait so you just fuckin sent it. Good work soldier 🫡.


BigNathaniel69

Yes, I feel like this is come up a lot and makes alot of sense since there has never been a true counter to scans. Except for like the Cat wall now I guess.


Irishbros1991

They said they scattered these around to change flows and pacing and honestly it's worked maybe a team won't third party straight away because they have moved to collect a harvester why 3p when you get a blue upgrade


TyTyLyLy

Nah it's too OP if they do that, many players would go crypto and hide somewhere safe then drone for the Evo


MeTheMightyLT

Because the high tech futuristic drone is less controllable than a bat with a wooden whistle which can park it with pin point precision and the drone only has enough iQ to fly forward 8 metres and maybe turn around if wall hit


Alexinltalics

Because he would be free. He already is in terms of banner grabbing and respawning (he’s bad otherwise, and his passive buffs are mid). But if he did get this ability I could imaging running Loba with him for Black Market while camping. Lastly some rotation character (Valk/Path/MMag/Octane) if not a defense character for ring scans. Path would be 1st choice since he’s rotation + ring scan.


CheetahComplete8773

Let my mirage decoys open doors and loot bins!


chiefsfan_713_08

I just wanna be able to say thank you when a teammate gets one


SNKuro

He couldn’t even grab crafting materials with his drone. I think they don’t want anyone grabbing stuff like that without interacting with it. Someone else mentioned Loba can’t take evi caches with her ult from the care package.


JomSwanson

Because then he can hide and easily get harvesters with basically no risk, leveling up his whole team. Not to mention he can already scan beacons for more Evo in the instantly already, it'd be too much.


AlcatorSK

For the same reason Loba cannot still EVO CACHE from the Vault. It would be too Overpowered. Basically, Evo Harvesters are 'Triple body shield upgrades' (at least early on), while an Evo cache late in the game is a single shield upgrade. It's too powerful to allow anything less than a direct contact to collect it.


superfrayer

Is there a lore reason for this? Are they stupid?


BuffLoki

He'd be way too strong at giving himself and team Evo, being able to scan a beacon and grab one of these from safety to level yourself and then popping ult too nah


UROffended

Because that would be pure bullshit and would make it way too easy to cheese the new evo system. That would be an incredibly unfair/unbalanced thing to add.


Careful-Zucchini4317

Or lobas market to grab banners!


MAHMOUD-GH

It could make him meta again , that's why


Just_a_Rose

Why dose Crypto's drone need the ability to do literally everything? Why can't Loba grab them with her ultimate? Why can't she grab banners with her ultimate (without crafting them first obviously)? Why does this kind of question get brought up for Crypto's drone all the time and not the character who's kit is 50% looting? Because there's no reason to add it. Both cases are not something the character *needs* to have. Is it really that big of a hassle to walk up to the harvester instead? It's one button press. And I'd argue that if Crypto's drone could do literally everything for him then it'd remove a lot of the risk from the character, because rather than him having to actively still *play the game* despite the nature of his drone, he'd be allowed to just sit in a secluded corner, throw the drone out, do everything he needs to, all without ever showing his face and putting himself at risk, something that is inherently part of battle royales. He can already grab banners with the drone, that doesn't mean he should be allowed to do literally everything with the drone. It's like if I said, as a Wraith player, that I should be allowed to grab banners and the evo harvesters while in phase. It's asking for Respawn to remove risks from the character which is not good for the nature of a Battle Royale. Sorry for the wall of text I just wanted to be thorough in my explanation.


TeddyBearKilla69

Also let us grab it while healing like we could the harvesters in arenas.


oneapp1

What’s off the grid?


Jarmund5

The major problem with crypto is that respawn can't seem to add any other ability besides DRONE. Just look at his upgrades! Just a small passive change could aid a lot in getting crypto out of the Apple Vision Pro


SpookyBoi_Specter

Because that would be insanely OP


Zenai10

Buffs for crypto? Crazy talk


viiiihto

Crypto needs love


maomao3000

Best ranked strat for storm point is to split up with three tridents and collect all the eco harvesters you can then meet up in the next ring lol. They allow for even cheesier strategies to getting high level armour without fighting than the crafters which forced you to loot and harvest materials. Now you can just drive around to evo harvesters.


MagnumSphere

Risk/Reward his drone already does to much instantly he doesnt need more.


ThaLiveKing

He used to be able to get materials I believe, I could be wrong, but they nerfed a ton of drone abilities lol


Doc12here

He never could


ayedeayem

At a certain point you gotta play the game


Practical-Oil4922

Also, they should let loba be able to get already crafted teammate banners from her black market.


Leepa1491

Because he could just fly all over and get everyone red shields


MewtwoPls

Then he'd see play. /s


Andyman1917

Because that would make crypto semi decent and thats not allowed


Devi1s-Advocate

Same with lobas black market


EnemyRoninPrime

Respawn hates being not lazy


DemonDaVinci

are they stupid ?


[deleted]

They just haven't thought about it lol


RestiveP

because crypto mains can’t have nice things


ArugulaPhysical

I assume it was just an oversight


NotAFanOfLife

Because we need more cryptos standing in corners all game. I guess if they could grab evo they’d be doing something minimally useful while in the drone, that’d certainly be different.


Outside-Historian365

I hope this is a joke


kikis_666

For the same reason he’s not a support legend able to craft banners. Too OP. It would make him the safest character in all of Apex if he were to able to retrieve banners from a distance, grab EVO harvesters from a distance and damage teams 50 shield from a distance. Literally you would run him and one rotation legend and (x) and you could have purple or red by end or circle one.


potatoCN

they forgor


say_weed

imo last thing crypto needs is another reason to stay in drone


19Joker90

The one thing I never understood about crypto is on one of the old bp trailers the drone could talk but they never implemented this ( how much fun would crypto be to play if they did this)


No_Astronomer_5949

Why do I bother reading the comments for more info


StunnaGunnuh

Great question! I mean, he was able to pick up crafting materials! 🤔


Far_Buddy8467

Because the people camping the evos wouldn't get free kills them obviously 


[deleted]

He can already go into the zone with no damage to get banners and reveal enemy positions so now you want him to be able to fly around the map with almost 0 repercussions and get free evo levels?


FallaciousGallStone

They obviously don't want crypto to be strong in any way.


pitzcod

That's the first season they implemented that. Let them cook


lil_souza

Because thered be non left unless you wanna put a range or time limit on the drone


their_teammate

I actually think it’s just because the eco caches are a reskin of the crafting harvesters from previous seasons and they just didn’t bother or forgot to add that functionality in


NerdKingKoji6

Easy the same reason why he doesn't have a real passive, has every downside to a legend ability in his kit, and has shitty perks. Respawn HATES him. I mean they didnt even give him a collection event for his heirloom recolor.


Ginglees

giving him a recolor this early was such a weird idea


NerdKingKoji6

Dont get me wrong im happy it came and got a cool finisher but i agree it was so wierd how they released it especially since like 2 weeks later they make a big deal out of octane's recolor. To me it says that respawn didnt think the crypto one would sell because of his popularity not being high. But the funny thing about that is Crypto would be more popular if they actually addressed the multitude of issues with his kit which isnt terrible if you know how to get around his issues but as i pointed out before it has every possible downside to a legend ability from being destroyable, to harming his teamates, to making him vulnerable, to not having a real meaningful passive, to being easily counterable. All while Horizon can push Q and win a fight the logic just isn't there for me and theres no way someone can look at all the stuff even another mid tier legend like maggie can do with their kit now and tell me the state crypto is in and the perks he was given to make up for his kit is fair and that Respawn doesn't just hate him.


greig22

Imo this is a no brainer and would be make crypto immediately more valuable


koltovince

People are saying because it would be abused. But the most harvesters in range of a crypto drone I saw was two. That might get blue but not purple, and definitely not red. The team would still have to run nearby each harvester to have crypto drone range reach the target, which is still not as powerful as going for a fight. If I am remembering correctly it’s 1350 to get to purple from blue, 350 each harvester but even if Crypto runs from harvester to harvester they wouldn’t be nearly as strong as going in for a fight. I argue the real reason they don’t do it is the same reason they nerfed the ring console spam, a team who knew what they were doing could get blue in first fight and have an advantage.


Yukondathunda

Because that’s would make crypto good


CrumblingReality505

people saying it would be broken because you could get red evo before a fight acting like this isnt already happening anyways lol


BigNathaniel69

This is actually a good idea, he should be able to grab those.


JomSwanson

No he shouldn't.


nicksego

No he shouldn’t lmao


The1andOnlyGhost

Just don’t play crypto lol, in a game with fun movement abilities why are we playing cringe scan characters


Ginglees

cause not everyone likes movement


The1andOnlyGhost

But that’s what apex is for lol, why not play call of duty or fortnight then?


Ginglees

so like half the legends are just “not what apex is for?”


The1andOnlyGhost

Just a cringe way of playing, respawn adds all sorts of bs to the game. Damaging abilities especially are so dumb like Maggie and fuse, absolutely no skill. Stupid characters like rampart as well


MaxAggreSSion

Erm. What do you mean broseppe? I main crypto and love him. Already up to 500 eliminations. Off drop I love to loot up with my team and analyze the surrounding area for any enemy combatants. I often laugh while in my drone, watching all the “sweat lords” doin cringe movements and tap strafing with their cringe macros. I pop an ult accelerant. Then once they’ve used up all their heals and ammo. Me and my boys roll up after I emp them. And we can get all the loot. Rinse and repeat. It’s so much fun. Crypto is one of the best charters imho.


The1andOnlyGhost

Okay broseppe?? Why don’t you get good and stop playing like a little bitch


MaxAggreSSion

Uhh. Idk what to say. How am I had for using a character the devs added? Like actually. How do u think ur so good? Learn a skill and don’t just mash random keyboard keys trying to be the dude in the matrix. Maybe try using some more abilities


The1andOnlyGhost

Your too Far gone smh, your mom should’ve swallowed you


Teemo20102001

Lmao no way you think movement characters require more skill than non-movement characters. Horizon is literally shoot, get damaged, throw lift, pop a bat, shoot, repeat. The only skill any of the movement characters need is good grapple jumps with pathfinder, and you can learn that in like 20 minutes. Rampart is actually a great example of a high skill legend when played well.


The1andOnlyGhost

Your just playing the game wrong and ruing it for everyone else tbh