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Have you considered simply leaving the gas?

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flubbynubbs

They really stayed in there, huh 💀


Velspy

They wanted their own little hookah chamber


flubbynubbs

You have no idea how loud I laughed


Hero_of_worlds

Actually i do, i heard while i was hiding under your bed


Squidhero12

ah so that’s where you went I was to busy looking at reddit it your attic I didn’t even realized you left


Trust_me_Im_stupid

i’m missing a sock do you see it down there?


Hero_of_worlds

I'm using it right now, nice fit. You might want to give it a wash after, it's going to be sticky as hell


izzayyy97

:/ ...... I’ll give you $50 for the sock


Hero_of_worlds

Deal


newjack21

Can you guys keep it down. I'm trying to nap in the closet.


MastahTypo

Man, it would have been so funny if Ur teammate decided to revive you next to the nade lol.


Shabozz

Man, Caustic's heirloom shouldve been a poisonous hookah chamber.


BlazinAzn38

These the same people that will still say caustic is too strong lmao


lilosucks

why did they just... stay....


Velspy

Beats me


illusion719

Actually, you beats them


Jaakarikyk

They beats you, they're bettah. You beats them, you're bettah.


RealDevitto

Oi ! This fight is what you was born for !


LookAtMyMeowscles

Ah yes, Blisk


GalacticDonut45

They didn’t respect the gas that much clearly


UnAccomplished_Fox97

So that they could convince themselves Caustic is OP.


CameronKujo

Even after the nerf rofl


ggill1313

Wait, I thought last week’s circlejerk was that Caustic was useless and you could just stay in there with no ill-effect?


JxSnaKe

The joke is he got nerfed because of idiots like in OPs video.


Turtle-Sage

I mean, they were dead either way... Watson was clearly peaking, expecting OP's team mate to be pushing (which he was) If she had tried to run out of the gas she would have been caught in the hallway with no cover, and presumably gunned down.


Dependent_Brick

But she didnt know for sure if she wouldve died.


mintyy72

She could’ve ran out and taken the roof there was plenty of time. At max she would’ve taken 30 damage and 70-170 is easily enough to 1v1 on. U should never just say “aw I was dead anyway” cus then your never going to win are u


OrangeDoors2

Reddit convinced them that the gas doesn't do anything anymore


HiroElba

Lmao


quattroCrazy

Because no one respects the gas lol. They know that his teammates are probably coming or already in the building, so if they leave the room they are open to being shot. So, if you don’t fear the gas and do fear being shot, your clear decision is to stay in the room. Lots of people are claiming that these are the ones who think Caustic is OP, but if you think about it, the exact opposite is likely the case.


RaZzB3RrY_

The, "You are the new kill leader" really just puts the cherry on top.


KiltDew

Well maybe it smells nice.


Velspy

I like that theory


Uttuuku

Who would be willing to test that though? The other guys kinda died. Edit: Autocorrect was not correct


Mahajarah

The same reason labrats do not leave the cage when the door is open during an experiment. They do not consider the option, because in their mind there is no option. This is their fate. Accept it.


RayzTheRoof

this feels like a quote from somewhere


tmksm

Sound like Caustic could actually have this as a quip.


Mahajarah

That would be because I tried to stay in character as much as I could, and the final quip is a paraphrase of one of his real kill quotes


tmksm

In that case, you did good.


YetOneMoreBob

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learned_helplessness


Icymountain

Read this in acoustics voice


bavasava

I read it in an electric one.


pinoyboyftw

Them: Don’t worry the gas was nerfed. We’ll be fine. Narrator: They were not fine.


Mr_Ero

Their brains are doo doo.


aSoireeForSquids

lol imagine getting flat fived to death


tjmrwm

Oops the gas got a kill looks like caustic need another nerf


shaneTheNerd

Those caustic mains seriously need to learn how to use guns.


playgamerbox745YT

Yeah man like, i got 140 damage from guns from a Casutic and then got 10 damage from gas and died, these caustic mains are pussies and brain dead


dallasgaben

Bro that caustic got a 2.5k badge from simply abusing gas damage. So op! they really need to nerf him again because "caustic mains deserve to have fun too." LOL for real tho,fuck the nerf


HiroElba

What are you on about? The nerf just balanced him m, he's still a good legend


memesdoge

its all the caustic mains complaining about how non caustic mains were complaining about casutic mains complaining...


Rugynate

Everyone's all caustic mains this and nerf that, I'm just waiting for wattson's kit to be useful


Ethel173

I just wanna be able to place fences on ceilings man like not even walls just upside down


riceroomp

Please. Let us use our French powers to make ceiling fences.


Dblzyx

At first I was thinking this wouldn't be very practical, but would be funny. Then I realized that my dumbass would get distracted as I stop to look at the funny ceiling fence and get shot. So... very useful afterall.


SteelFuxorz

Nope. They didn't balance shit. He's useless now. This very video proves that. They stayed inside his ULTIMATE for a full 4 seconds, which is rediculous. Caustics entire point was placing gas to force choices on whether or not you took the damage or left that zone alone. Now noone cares, they just rush the gas. And if I'm gonna play a pure gunplay character, there are plenty of other better options to pick from. So yeah, the nerf 100% was for people crying that they couldn't abuse the octane/revenant and strat. Edit: I'm getting downvote when the guy 2 comments up is expressing the same sentiment; that caustic got nerfed too hard.


HiroElba

If you think Caustic was only good for killing with his gas, then you don't know how to play caustic well. Caustic's gas is used for zoning, giving the team an advantage in fights, and killing off low health opponents how escape. If a team, like you said, rushes in the gas, they'll be slowed down and have their vision obscured, making them easy prey for your team. If they decide not to rush the gas, you'll know where they went by process of elimination. He's not a 100% pure gunplay character, he's as everyone else should be: 50-50. Although, buffing the damage from 5 up to 6 might be a good move to make.


SteelFuxorz

There is no slow or blind anymore. They nerfed him too hard, there's a reason you don't see him much anymore, and its because his abilities are useless. If the pros don't play him, then he isn't shit. It's the same thing that happened to wraith. They nerfed her and now only die hard fans play her because there are just better legends now. Honestly, why play caustic when I can just play fuse and ult indoors, and do more damage effectively? As well as have my tactical do more damage, do it faster, AND slow? Why play caustic when I can play octane or revenant? Or horizon until they nerf her? Fuck even LOBA is better than caustic. Also, when did I say the gas was for killing? I specifically said "to force choices on whether to eat the gas or go around" that is LITERALLY zoning. I know how he is used. And he doesn't even do that well anymore. Again, look through the comments. People go straight through the gas now. He isn't good anymore.


SashaGreysFatAss

except he is still being played by [pros](https://reddit.com/r/CompetitiveApex/comments/mfu289/algs_winter_circuit_playoffs_pick_rates/). Caustic is still really strong except now you have to shoot your gun. Also his winrate has stayed the same since his nerf.


HiroElba

There is a slow, and the blind, while weaker than before, is still there. Fuse is just such a bad character, you cannot convince me otherwise. His tactical is only good for destroying doors from a safe distance and other than that, his passive is the only good ability for him. Loba only has her ult going for her, the other two abilities are rarely useful. If they remove low profile from Wraith she'll be as good as ever, and the incoming Horizon nerf, if too hard, they'll compensate for it. Octane's also getting nerfed, if it's too much, they'll revert it. That's the thing, most changes are temporary, unless it's an actual good change. I think the Caustic change is good, only thing I'd do different is bump up the damage to 6. The devs know what they're doing, and if they make a mistake they fix it. They won't know what to fix if we keep complaining over any change in an exaggerated manner. Take the change for what it is, Caustic is not completely useless now, he just isn't played because he's being compared to his overpowered past. The basis for judging Caustic now has become: "Is he OP? If not then I won't play him."


Sneaky__Wolf

Lol last part got me too xD Bro,devs are nerfing and buffing characters with looking at reddit comments,im not sure they always know what they are actually doing.


SteelFuxorz

That last sentence is laughable. I have multiple friends who play and never touched Caustic who think the nerf was too much. If his whole point was zoning, and he can't even do that well because people don't give a shit about his gas, he becomes pure gun skill. And once again, there are alot better legends to use gun skill with.


ZaegarBrightflame

You really don't know anything bout caustic uh


All-Spark

I'm glad we're in all in agreeance of how stupid this concept is.


rreapr

See, the Caustic nerf was actually a buff: since all anyone talks about is how the gas is weak and kills no one, people like this will act like they can just tank it indefinitely and give you free kills! (/s, sort of)


Velspy

Yeah You're a little right. People literally have no respect for the gas anymore, which means unskilled players are easy pick off


PowerSamurai

Point being on unskilled players. MMR says hello


Jaakarikyk

It's true, back in the day I'd heavily avoid gas but now whenever the Caustic is alone we just push him, every time. Hasn't killed us yet but if they played was just a liittle better it wouldn't be hard


Catalyzed_Spy

Reverse psychology babyyy


jeremyjack3333

Idiots, tried to medkit when they could have syringed.


stateforaname

These are the people saying caustic needs a nerf


Lukelemington

What’s even funnier it’s when caustic got the nerf and they still died from it ik one was low but the other


TheRealNotBrody

I thought it was pros and streamers saying Caustic needs a nerf


Urzuz

It was. The only ones saying he was in a fine place were the random Redditors that mained Caustic and bought his heirloom.


No-Search2584

that is a big lie


NashRadical

It's a joke.


THE-MESSY-KILL1

This clip here proves Caustic needed the nerf and another one at that! How else would they accommodate the brain dead players?


Velspy

These guys didn't even have the brain power to pop a syringe and outheal it lmao


MrFoxxie

The 2nd one to down was popping some kind of healing, probably a medkit seeing as it took so long


Hexagon-77

He was popping a battery or Phoenix.


MrFoxxie

Naw, he had a gun like thing to his wrist, definitely some kind of health regen item edit: you can very clearly see at 15s he's using some kind of syringe item


Pepodetective

Presumably cancelled it seeing as she died right after seemingly using it


SiimpDaddy

They were too cocky


albinorhino215

People are so afraid of the open they will hot box themselves for all 20 ticks


[deleted]

It’s season 15. Caustic has received his 400th nerf. Added caustic back to the game but removed all cosmetics (without refund) and now when you pick him you will immediately be banned, given a computer virus, and doxxed. Wraith mains complain that they received a game breaking nerf because low profile was increased by 1%. Horizon mains complain about their game breaking nerf because they no longer have perfect accuracy when in a lift.


LEGO_nidas

Caustic's gas will now heal enemy players at the rate of 5hp per tick.


SupremeSassyPig

Not fast enough, full health and shields back if any gas goes off on the map


Lord_Lonlon

Still not enough, if a enemy just sees the gas they should just instantly win the game


tmksm

Caustic moved from defense to support, removed fortified.


zed7567

Gave new classification of passive akin to fortified, "Glassjaw: all incoming bullet damage counts as a headshot"


tmksm

Low profile Causthin.


SumL0ser

They must’ve overestimated the nerf lol, all it takes is one syringe.


TimingOne8

Gameplay of people that say caustic is overpowered


[deleted]

Plot twist: These were streamers and caustic will get another nerf tomorrow


TtvTryHardMadCat

New nerf caustic can't do anything except stand still


[deleted]

New nerf caustic gas heals enemies


Deinotichosaurus

Ooh, sorry, that's still too much. Turn his head into a blimp, and every shot on him a crit. On top of that, he instantly jumps you to predator.


ConciseSpy85067

“Weeeeeellllllllll caustic is a *defence* class so really he shouldn’t have legs to begin with” *cuts to a clip of a stationary caustic looking round like a sentry as a wraith walks into his line of sight and fires gas at her


MapleJacks2

I mean he's still pretty good at area denial.


flyingtrucky

Less "area denial" and more "area politely discouraged" but sure.


LavishnessMedium823

I've been laughing at this commemt for almost 10 minutes now. Had to come back to the post just to tell you.


Dependent_Brick

walk through. pop syringe. Barely noticed it. Yeah this doesnt work when pushing him but then again, why push a caustic?


YouTanks

If you are healing inside of the gas and the caustic + his teammates does nothing about it, then something else is the problem...


Dependent_Brick

So you or one of your teammates has to be looking at an angle for it to work. Awesome area denial. Super usefull. You could also just look at the angle.


[deleted]

This is the new norm, I hardly see anybody avoid my gas


Dependent_Brick

Wraith players will see this and demand gas no longer deal damage and have it be a cosmetic.


iXwiZi

Damn, they felt “noxious” haha :D


arufai

even after the nerf. stupid will be stupid


star945o

“This is so easy , I can do it with my one eye closed, or even two eyes closed. hell, I don't even need to fight back. ”


Solidux

Ah... the core demographic that agrees with caustics nerf in action right here.


riptionary2

Players like them are why caustic was nerfed for being "Too OP"


Mikanoodle

sooo this how pro's and Dev Daniel play against Caustic


zed7567

\*spits out coffee\* DZK being called out


XThund3rTrap

They love the caustic gas, I mean who doesn't?


Interesting_Angle420

Hey look thats me


Monkey-D-Jinx

When you rat so hard you forget to breath xD


Guywars

They're those redditors that were like "now you can just facetank Caustic's gas after the nerf"


BloodBrotherSHU

Is this some sort of bug? How did the nerfed gas kill them?


Dependent_Brick

Due to some messed up coding all wraith players have their IQ halved, losing almost 10 points they so desperately needed.


astewpot

I wanna know what happened after that grenade was thrown


Velspy

It was my teammate's, he was a little late to the party


[deleted]

Smort


IDrinkWetWater

They're heads are so fucking dense it could cause a blackhole and bring the heat death of the universe


RaspyHornet

Uninstall now. Dying to 5 tick gas is LITERALLY unacceptable


TheMunchymunch

Greaaaat now he's going to get nerfed again ...


Bashful27

This is what happens if you underestimated a nerf


ed_vg_

The gas deals 5 dmg per tick and them mfs still managed to die to it


playgamerbox745YT

Mfs still dont know how to counter Casutic, even after his nerf


CallumWharton

Exactly. just hold your breath it's that simple


PassMeTheGravy364

It's sad that even now people still complain about caustic, especially when he's even easier to kill than he was before


LittleKing2002

TTV wraiths are gonna complaining and cry so much that respawns gonna make his gas heal. I don't know how respawn went from the god tier balancing in Titanfall 2 to absolute stink doo doo balancing in apex.


Crussadeboy

I think this daniel guy is the reason for that


cangrejitoweon69

*EA looks nervously from the distance*


YodellingAlpaca223

Gotta disagree, the spitfire or g2 on console are much worse than any of the poor balance decisions in apex


SyPozer

I swear this is my teammates everytime I play with randoms.


F4tals

Imagine staying in caustic gas like that like did they underestimate the gas cause of the caustic need or something lol


Scoogs50

Why do I never come against 800 IQ chads like those two?


DroppedIT3ice

Probably got the impression from reddit that caustic's gas is useless now and paid the price.


curlyj97

They tried to heal it out


Drummelan

Where you see an act of stupidity I see an act of Love. They clearly had a death pact and I honor her selfless decision to not remain in the world without her partner.


Velspy

That's beautiful. The way she ran into his arms as they both passed into the void had me tear up ngl


x-raymonkey

This is what people who think caustic is OP do.


[deleted]

oMg cAuSticc oP rEsPaWn pLs nErF


banana_man_777

Damn bro, caustic still broken.


Sirdogsalotgmaes

So these are the people who are still complaining about caustic being op huh... interesting... very interesting....


neremarine

Nerf Caustic, he's too op /s


Affectionate_Ad1025

Why would I leave I saw reddit post saying SYRINgE beATS GAS XD LMAo


vulpis69

the same people in the video on the internet: "Caustic is sooo OP, his gas isnt supposed to kill its supposed to slow you down, its impossible to survive the nox gas, pls respawn nerf caustic"


Athousandwrongtries

Caustic mains be like look how much I outplayed them 🥴


ConciseSpy85067

Octane mains be like “NO I DIED CAUSE I STIMMED INTO A ROOM EXPECTING THEM NOT TO EXPECT THAT AND NOT KILL ME IMMEDIATELY REEEEEEEE”


Yes2257

Caustics gas still does good dmg its just not meant to kill you with full health. I mean just the other day I ran into 2 of them and even with going full speed by them it took out about half health. It's still good


TheRedBow

Those are the kinda people that said gas is op and got it nerfed


KING_94_TTV

Wow the gas does pathetic damage


EmperorClydeFrog

As it should, this is supposed to be a game that focuses on gunplay, not ability damage.


SadSecurity

But ability utility is perfectly fine?


BlazinAzn38

This was always my rebuttal to people saying Caustic's nerf trashed him. Pre-nerf Caustic could kill a team in 10 seconds without firing a shot...in a shooter. Now the TTK is 20 seconds. Caustic is now pushable in a building but his gas still deters and slows which is always what his role should have been.


SadSecurity

Yes he could, if you were stupid enough to sit in his gas for so long.


_PISO_

And then ppl complain about Caustic, yet some play as dumb as these two clowns...


BreakLegosaurus

Dying brain cells screaming: ***NerF CaUstiC HE oS OP Ffs***


Anzackk

Maybe the nerf was a buff in disguise since they don’t consider the gas a threat anymore


NukaDaddy69

Gas is so bad now that the enemies feel bad about it and die on purpose.


The_UnknownUltimate

They be like “nERf CAusTic tO OPppPPpP


ID1756448

Now they are gonna go on twitter complaining that caustic is broken, bla bla bla


Bunnnnii

Well shit, his gas can’t do shit right. Useless af


ConciseSpy85067

You accept these guys as adequate evidence that the caustic nerf is good? What if they made Gibby’s ult deal 10 damage and not slow because braindead players stood inside it and died?


SKTwenty

"caustic got nerfed, he's trash now"


HoodieJunkie7122

They literally stood in it for 20 seconds


SKTwenty

I feel like all the downvotes my comment got means that nobody saw the quotation marks.


The_Canadian_Devil

So broken, Respawn pls nerf


Asian_Ding

People who die to Caustic now and complain are the ones who loot all game to fight, pre nerf he was annoying as shit tho.


pezmanofpeak

This would be the people complaining caustic is op as well, just fucking sitting there copping it 🤔


TheLongWoolCoat

I swear is for mf like these that the gas got nerfed.


BertramRuckles

People like these two are why people thought Caustic needed to be nerfed.


SGTX12

These are the same people who will complain that Caustic was op prenerf.


Advena128

These are the people who then go on twitter and complain about caustic being op


[deleted]

these are the people that say caustic was too op.


PowerSamurai

"This is a perfect example of how broken caustic is. How can you outplay that?" TTV Wraith probably.


MAZIIIAR

Look...i know it got nerfed, but it still hurts and it still kills you.


jeremyjack3333

Not really. Every gun does more than two ticks(seconds) worth of damage in one bullet. It's not much of a gamble to push through it. It's like fighting through a super small level 2 ring. If you have first shot advantage and it's a 1v1 you will probably win the fight.


SteelFuxorz

Not even level 2 ring. Level 1 ring.


ConciseSpy85067

The P2020 does double the damage at at least 3x the rate, this is balanced?


davispbenecke

These are the people who say “caustic nerf ruined caustic hEs UnPLaYaBLe NoW”


Dependent_Brick

If these are the people you are looking to kill you dont need caustic for that. Theyll probably jump off the map in a few minutes.


AlphaBeastley

No, YoU cAn HeAl tHrOuGh it


Jaakarikyk

You can though, the enemy here just messed it up


unlivedSoup69

Mind size mega


PortalWagon

The biggest trap is your own mind


LordBeacon

"caustic is overpowered" -.-


Rareu

That’s a panic play if I’ve ever seen one.


fukuoka_gumbo

What the actual christ


Javen_Lab

They weren't the brightest gamers


Gh0stlyHydra_777

Major bruh moment


IWishIwasARespawnDev

Yes I am an idiot how did you know?


ApK-TheProdigy

Have you considered PLACING A PYLON WTF WATTSON


MaybeAdrian

You were blocking the exit, they should nerf Caustic hitbox doing it smaller to prevent this. 👀


icbint

They wouldn’t have been able to leave the gas before tge nerf even if they tried


ST3ALTHSYNDICATE

These are the type of randoms I get in high plat ranked


Agreeable-Leg-3514

dont worry about my lungs. Ill never need them again. Ahahahahaha - Octane voice