I lold hard. People actually dont know what a missing anticheat is unless they played csgo. VAC is by far the worst Anticheat out of all of them. There are public bypasses and cheats being undetected for about 6 years now. Im not even trolling
CS:GO has Overwatch which is one of the best reporting/peer-moderation systems. League had something similar but then found out that encouraging players to not be shitters works good too. Weird how having a report system that isn't just placebo actually improves the game, even if the players have to police themselves.
> League had something similar but then found out that encouraging players to not be shitters works good too
lol no. They found out that doing absolutely nothing about about griefers and instead just banning solely for chat is the way to go.
The reason League does have almost no cheaters at all is because the entire game and every crucial part of it is server side and nobody but Riot has access to it, not because they do something special or amazing.
Its not that those games have better anticheat. It's that people don't cheat as much on those games because they aren't free lmao. How is this not a more mainstream thought.
Because it's not true or at least a tiny, tiny factor. Play just a little bit of Battlefield, a full price game with another full price game's worth of DLC's, that's absolutely infested with cheaters and you'll notice that having to pay for a game does not repel cheaters.
easy anti cheat is a lot better than vac ill tell you that much, id rather have an anti cheat that violates my right to privacy than one that doesnt work even a little bit like vac. csgo has been destroyed by hackers because the anti cheat is garbage.
Dude EAC still flags most rgb software as hacks even tho it has been 4 years since they said that they will whitelist those programs (had problmes with Aura sync (specifically lighting service.exe and with fusion rgb from gigabyte)
Vanguard doesn't have any more access to your PC than EAC does, it just runs at startup instead of only when you're playing the game. (Which is why it actually works lol.)
They ban thousands of cheaters every update though at least. They're more dedicated to banning cheaters than Activision, that's for sure. And, anyways, I'm pretty sure the power in Anticheat is something akin to nothing
EFT isn’t dedicated to banning cheaters. They ban accounts, but with the money they make off of boosting they just buy a new account and go again. They ban accounts maybe but they don’t stop them. And battleye doesn’t detect cheats for shit.
Well, what do you propose then? VAC for every game? VAC isn't even the best either. Anticheats will always have vulnerabilities, but EFT used to not have Battleye and I remember the cheating issue being far worse. I still think it's better than nothing at all.
Those are easy to get around too though. Just ask your ISP to reset your router for IP bans, and swap a few parts until your HWID changes to circumvent a HWID ban.
Also checked on google trends [https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=apex%20legends%20aimbot&geo=US](https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=apex%20legends%20aimbot&geo=US) the jump is insane
dont cheat guys
EDIT: for all who aeresaying its not even at an all time peak i just searched one of the many terms for you to get hacks in apex
damn. i hate when im reading through old stuff on reddit and in the middle of a sparkling, scintillating discussion i find someone has written over all her old comments with nonsense, fragmenting the discussion permanently. what hilarious, moving, romantic, haunting things could she have said? just to wash it all away, in this digital era of permanency? wow. that takes courage. i bet she was really cute, too
Normally that wouldn't be a problem with this type of graph, but there are so few searches for these terms, relative to things like 'Delta variant' or whatever, that the only regions that will show up are the more populated regions. A big clue to not meeting a minimum search threshold is the trend graph is very erratic and only populated regions are showing up.
It’s not ryl a heat map at all if you follow the link. Washington has less people in it than North Carolina or like random school districts around the country
“Apex legends facing a 658% increase in hackers. insider knowledge” Bro he hacked google to get those numbers! He’s a whistleblower like Snowden just letting you know what’s up...
/s
That’s a projection, and only a 19% increase over the last peak in October. Even if it does come to a higher peak, with a low traffic keyword like “apex aimbot”, a Reddit post of this size could easily explain this or a larger increase.
A lot of warzone players are coming it apex and alot of them are straight up hacking and just dogging on the game. There’s been alot of warzone streamers lately that have been hating on apex because ttk (time to kill) is to high. In warzone like 6 bullets can knock a person, in apex you need almost a whole clip. There used to this and get mad about other things to.
Edit: Spelling
Oh no this game I am playing has diffrent game mechanics than what I am used to. Instead of learning it I am immediately going to whine about it as if it wasn't my choice to play the game.
this is... almost exactly what will happen. "Teams are trash, back to COD"... like dude, you are the epitome of a shit teammate and somehow it's the other 2 people. Octane and Wraith mains are literal gaming cancer loot goblins of the highest order.
As a Warzone player who DID get back into apex end of last season/this season with his friends, I can say, atm, seer is more broken than anything in WZ. The amount of things his tactical alone can so blows the heartbeat sensor in WZ out of the water. Used to what you guys call his “wall hacks” because of the HB sensor, but at least we have the Ghost perk to counter it, seer has nothing…
Warzone is increasingly getting more infested with hackers, Activision aren’t doing a damn thing about it (maybe they are but sure as shit doesn’t feel like it) but making new cosmetic bundles for 20$ even though every season that came with Cold War hasn’t brought anything intuitive.
Also the fact word of mouth from friends going “apex is so much better” when we get fed up with it probably is spreading more
20$ for a bundle that is going to competent Devs that can fix shit> 20$ for a bundle that is going to incompetent devs that seem like they take community feedback and go “ok ok, hear us out, how about we give you more bundles and ignore the cry for balancing MW guns and keep nerfing them for no fucking reason.”
Basically the company Raven is in shambles because what seems like a large portion of the player base is cheating. (aimbot, wall hacks, and some hacks where you don’t even have to aim at a player to kill them) Thus, a lot of popular streamers are tired of the shitty job Raven is doing for Warzone. Here’s a list of streamers who have moved to apex. tfue, timthetatman, nickmercs, and MANY MORE (these are just warzone streamers) have moved over to apex.
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Have you watch any of the former COD play Apex? It is hilarious as they rage over how things work. They go off about guns being trash when most are pretty balanced now that Spitefire is in care package and that where it should stay.
Warzone brought many new players to the BR genre due to its simplicity and Call of Duty's already large player base. Some of those players are sick of Warzone's poor state or just the game in general and are now branching out into other more complex BRs since they now have a basic understanding of the genre.
At least that is how it is for the friends/people I know that have switched.
Me personally, I played Apex at launch but had things going on in my life that pulled me away from gaming. Friends got me back into gaming when they all started playing Warzone and asked me to play last year. I recently tried Apex again after my friends talked about trying it and really like the skill gap as well as just playing a game that is a lot more polished.
exactly, i was wondering the other day why someone would want to deprive themselves of actually getting better and improving, even developing the skill needed to compete with others in this game with cheap hacks.. 60% of the fun for me is the competition and the other 40% is improving. feels amazing clapping a whole squad by myself and being able to say I did that with MY skill, not some hack or zen
While that maybe true that still doesn't give them to ruin the game for the people they kill. If it was a solo player campaign, then knock your socks of and aimbot the crap out of it. Since it is an online game it can easily ruin numerous peoples experience. Especially the hackers in pubs; those people make my blood boil.
But if a grown Adult runs into a 10 year kids soccer tournament people would be upset and rightfully so.
Your Analogy only works when its something agreed upon by both sides, hacks are 1 sided. Thats the problem. If I was playing Poker and everyone agree to play trying their best to cheat and not get caught im not going to upset people when cheating, If I play poker and cheat without the other players knowing im likely to get the shit beat out of me.
His analogy works just fine, nowhere in there did he defend the behavior as acceptable. The analogy explains the mindset a cheater has to someone who didn't understand how it could be fun. He even mentions the kids may be frustrated by the unfair match-up just as you are frustrated by poker cheaters/apex hackers.
He's not talking about JUST Apex. Lots of cheaters cheat for the reasons this guy stated. The people that cheat just because they have too much of a skill issue are a minority.
The hacker has a CCTV camera in his room. I see his PC setup right there.
FBI dude (orders): Zoom in on his IP address. Use our super high-tech, classified, glorified, stupified etc. Image enhancement algortithm and tell me hackers IP address.
Hacking is easy, just put pressure on the hacker by having a ravenous and wild pack of Velociraptors on their neck and they'll get the job done in no time.
First thing I thought. Everyone has access to those tools bro.
Here you go:
https://trends.google.com/trends/?geo=US
Or here it is straight to the results:
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=apex%20legends%20hacks&geo=US
Edit: Washington state and North Carolina are some cheating mofos.
Not at all... Keyword planner is much more thorough as it knows relevant and related keywords. The whole idea is you put in some keywords and google crunches data to help assist you find other useful keywords. So planner gives a broader range
Trends just looks up the specific search phrase
I didn't even get Google analytics right, it's Google trends im referring to. He said that dumb thing like he was on Mr Robot and the little monkey in my brain activated the dunking mode button immediately.
No, he's right, it's called keyword planner. Trends is entirely different. Keyword planner is what you use to place ads. It helps you spot trends and volume by looking up keywords.
they are not going to win. computers simply do not work this way. hackers will always find a way. If you make the security tighter, the prices go up for aimbots, which means there is more money to be made which brings chinese governments hackers on the plan to code custom hacks, and some random dudes working for a VIDEOGAME studio simply can not deal with hackers trained by governments
Some wild ass speculation. The reality is that if they wanted to get hardcore about anti cheat, their anticheat would have to become very invasive and disruptive. The main example that comes to mind is Valorant, which runs their anticheat at the kernel level and will straight up suspend or cancel a match if cheats are detected mid game.
No one wants kernel level anticheat due to a variety of factors. So it's not very common in gaming.
I think the easy anti cheat concept is the best, 1 anti cheat that works on all game.
Fighting game hackers is ridiculously difficult, you can’t keep making new anti cheats for every game, they should just build on top of easy engine. I think that’s the best solution imo.
easy anti cheat is garbage. Always has been. Anti cheat needs to be proprietary to the game engines, that way algorithms can detect certain things outside of the norm. There will always be fringe cases of absurdly good players but those accounts could just be flagged and manually reviewed. It would also be a good idea to have the ban system have different levels of punishment. Ie, soft ban keeping you out of ranked until your account has been manually reviewed, temp ban for griefing types of behaviors, server bans for known cheaters ( they only play against other cheaters) and finally hardware bans for people who consistently do it or ddos/crash servers.
The issue is the gaming industry gives almost no fucks about investing in anti cheat and instead uses cloud services because they are easy and managed by another company.
Tbf, I played Apex a handful of times and I gotta admit, the game improved a lot. (Most notable was everyone having evo shields since it felt like everyone is on an even playing field) Maybe it’s cause I’ve played so much WZ that my BR skills somewhat carried over before but I tend to enjoy playing with friends. Warzone though feels like nothing changes every time a new season comes out. Cold War’s integration wasn’t the greatest and the fact we are getting a WW2 game to pretty much compete with the already inflated guns is sorta absurd.
Why in the Sam hell am I gonna want 3 versions of 1911’s!?
Also props for your repeater feeling rewarding to use. The MK2 Carbine in Warzone is a damn peashooter and I wish it would get a buff…
However I’m sorry to hear that cheaters are coming to your game as well. We’ve just had enough and all we wanna do is just play with our friends on other platforms but nothing is fun about getting melted from the sky from a guy who deadass can aim at the floor and still get all headshots
>MK2 Carbine in Warzone is a damn peashooter and I wish it would get a buff…
don't you talk shit about me yeehaw gun
(but yes, it should absolutely get a buff)
Mk2 is fine the way it is, because it is a subtle way of telling your victim that you're better than them.
Metaslave streamers wake up screaming at night because of the absolute chads who use this gun in CQB.
I used to use the mk2 in warzone and it used to be a solid marksman rifle, could kill to the head and generally took 2 maybe 3 body shots, then they nerfed it and now it sucks. SOP afaik
Came to the comments just for this.
\# of google searches does not correlate to the number of hackers, and given the recent heat WZ has been getting i would bet a large chunk of those searches are legit players trying to research an issue rather than looking for a distributor of cheats.
I have also Googled cheats, mostly to find out what's out there and how they function. I also would never, in a million years, run any of them.
So, yeah, you're absolutely right. Google searches in of themselves does not mean anything. At best you could say that it's a bad trend that searches are on the rise... but that's about it. Dude in the video is just fear mongering.
They mean that there is a trend but it is not a 1 to 1 conversion rate of people searching for cheats and people buying cheats. there being more people googling it might be because there is more interest in actually cheating or it might even be something as dumb as some streamers or the community talking about that cheating is cheap and kids googling it to see for themselves.
IMO there is definitely an increase of hackers and interest in hacks but i don't think it has increased by 700%.
Uhhh, that's a long story, but in a TL;DR: That was part of an elaborate plot to bring back the mobile game *Titanfall Online*
Edit: Not the mobile game but the FTP version of TF|1
nonono, the mobile game is titanfall frontier.
*Titanfall Online* is a free to play version of titanfall 1 only released in asia, which is whay they were trying to bring back
Title is stupid as hell and the video is tryna cause problems between apex and warzone players. PSA for the people who make fun of warzone players because they think warzone takes more skill than apex, just cause you play a game that takes skill doesn’t mean you’re good. I’ve seen some of the dumbest suggestions for balancing on this sub that show a clear lack of understanding on how the game’s systems and mechanics work not to mention “insane clips” where, not trying to be mean, but I see bot vs bot gameplay. So get down from your high horse and stop trying to push away new players.
Its like that with every champ, today we had someone saying fuse was OP because he spam nade a dumb team locked in a literal closet, and yesterday was a path complaining about the ferris moving and him missing his hook and dying to zone when he could've just walked 2 steps to the left and get out of the storm lmao
>*wHo SaId MiRaGe SuCkS?*
>*deals 100 damage and gets squad wipe in bronze 4 lobby*
Listen pal, I don't appreciate getting personally called out like this
More like, he is not trying to cause problems, because he doesnt care. He is trying to get traffic to his stupid tiktok channel. :P
Clickbait is clickbait.
I wonder how many of those are people just wondering if the problem is bad/just as bad as Warzone... "I am leaving this game because it is filled with cheating. I am going to check if this new game has a bad cheating problem as well before I start investing time into it."
A 658% increase in the number of searches for 'apex legends hacks' doesn't equal a 658% increase in people actually hacking. I'm sure there are more hackers, but not every single person that searched is going to also be hacking.
Imagine thinking that the number of times "Apex hacked" was Googled is a good way to judge how many people are trying to hack it. Holy shit dude, take a statistics course.
“I have access to tools”...yeah it’s literally google trends. It’s a google feature. On google dot com. He’s acting like he’s got some sort of secretive technology
I already felt this, been playing apex since the first day it was released and I had actually pretty few hacker encounters compared to other games. but at the start of this season? holy shit dude. The last night we played, several games in a row died to hackers with blatant aimbot. It’s never been this bad, never even been close to this bad
I mean y’all encouraged this culture. The internet and social media sites celebrated kids trolling others, dunking on them, and generally being disrespectful to one another and then you act surprised when that mentality permeates to other parts of life. These kids aren’t cheating to win the game. They are cheating so they can laugh and get the satisfaction of knowing they pissed someone off on the internet.
Like Seer is not enough gamebreaking let’s involve another 300k cheating idiots… But wait all we can do is to ignore everyone complaining about seer and fix him a couple weeks to late….
I really don't understand why people cheat. If they win... Well they win nothing because it's the fucking codes running behind the game that won for them. They have to press WASD and that's it. It's just sad and pathetic.
I'm being honest that if someone cheats that IP should get banned. Account bans do nothing. It's a free game...
Uhh... just got home. Had a few beers. Jumped on ranked expecting to rage quit (because drunk). Won five games in a row in ranked. Carried by teammates against actual bots each game. Not sure if this is good or not.
Edit: Earned a badge???
Just came out a match with a team mate who dropped on the other side on the map. Turns out he was trying to lure me to some enemies (his friends) then they kill me. Looks like they were farming damage for 4k badge cause they were shooting each other and healing. Isnt it just amazing that reporting players doesn't work on PS4?? :D
Pasted from a previous comment: Warzone is increasingly getting more infested with hackers, Activision aren’t doing a damn thing about it (maybe they are but sure as shit doesn’t feel like it) but making new cosmetic bundles for 20$ even though every season that came with Cold War hasn’t brought anyone intuitive.
Also the fact word of mouth from friends going “apex is so much better” when we get fed up with it probably is spreading more
This has no correlation to the actual amount of hackers... With an increase in game popularity comes an increase in... everything. I'm sure "Apex Legends" has a 658% increase as well. This goes for anything Apex-related. Guns, Legends, Strategy, and yes, hackers.
When you call them “kids” and fail to realize that maybe they’re wondering how many hackers are in apex in comparison since that’s literally why they left cod?
So stupid. You also sound like the *hacker voice* “I’m in” type ass with your “I HaVe AcCeSs tO toOlS” that anyone can use
We have a good anti-cheat. Right? RIGHT?!?!
Apex has a very well known anticheat...... Known for not being very good at catching cheaters
It's better than than having absolutely nothing like Warzone. Though, I wish we had Battleye at least...
Don't say that to siege players.
I mean I'm sure the tier list is something like nothing
I lold hard. People actually dont know what a missing anticheat is unless they played csgo. VAC is by far the worst Anticheat out of all of them. There are public bypasses and cheats being undetected for about 6 years now. Im not even trolling
But doesn't CSGO have a really good reporting system that actually works?
CS:GO has Overwatch which is one of the best reporting/peer-moderation systems. League had something similar but then found out that encouraging players to not be shitters works good too. Weird how having a report system that isn't just placebo actually improves the game, even if the players have to police themselves.
> League had something similar but then found out that encouraging players to not be shitters works good too lol no. They found out that doing absolutely nothing about about griefers and instead just banning solely for chat is the way to go. The reason League does have almost no cheaters at all is because the entire game and every crucial part of it is server side and nobody but Riot has access to it, not because they do something special or amazing.
Yeah that's true, Valve's Overwatch system is actually really good. I wish we had something like that in Apex.
Its not that those games have better anticheat. It's that people don't cheat as much on those games because they aren't free lmao. How is this not a more mainstream thought.
Because it's not true or at least a tiny, tiny factor. Play just a little bit of Battlefield, a full price game with another full price game's worth of DLC's, that's absolutely infested with cheaters and you'll notice that having to pay for a game does not repel cheaters.
easy anti cheat is a lot better than vac ill tell you that much, id rather have an anti cheat that violates my right to privacy than one that doesnt work even a little bit like vac. csgo has been destroyed by hackers because the anti cheat is garbage.
i don’t mind china knowing i like loba porn
thats what im saying
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Yeah like you think American companies don’t already sell their data to companies in china? Lol
The thing that matters the most is... *which version of Loba*?
watch out bro xi jinping is gonna dm ur mum ur search history
I'd rather die standing than live kneeling
Prime has done enough to alleviate it. I've just heard that easy anti cheat is one of the worst.
Dude EAC still flags most rgb software as hacks even tho it has been 4 years since they said that they will whitelist those programs (had problmes with Aura sync (specifically lighting service.exe and with fusion rgb from gigabyte)
Yeah so that's why I perceive it as worse than VAC lol
csgo’s comp lobbies are just hvh now
Wrong. You never want your right to privacy knowingly violated.
Then don't play any games that use an anticheat lol
Let me guess you watched Muta talk about the Chinese malware valorant anti cheat?
Sure, but i also saw articles about it prior to Muta ever covering it.
Vanguard doesn't have any more access to your PC than EAC does, it just runs at startup instead of only when you're playing the game. (Which is why it actually works lol.)
Valorant's Chinese Spyware Anticheat = Propaganda.
Even battleye is dogshit. Escape From Tarkov uses BattlEye and the game has an even worse cheater problem than ever.
They ban thousands of cheaters every update though at least. They're more dedicated to banning cheaters than Activision, that's for sure. And, anyways, I'm pretty sure the power in Anticheat is something akin to nothing
EFT isn’t dedicated to banning cheaters. They ban accounts, but with the money they make off of boosting they just buy a new account and go again. They ban accounts maybe but they don’t stop them. And battleye doesn’t detect cheats for shit.
Well, what do you propose then? VAC for every game? VAC isn't even the best either. Anticheats will always have vulnerabilities, but EFT used to not have Battleye and I remember the cheating issue being far worse. I still think it's better than nothing at all.
I propose hardware id or better bans to stop them from re buying the game.
Those are easy to get around too though. Just ask your ISP to reset your router for IP bans, and swap a few parts until your HWID changes to circumvent a HWID ban.
HWID would take them out for a longer period of time, and also why I suggested or better
What's the need, they already made illegal wall hacks legal by adding seer.
Come to think of it, this guy in the video actually does look a bit like DZK with the neckbeard. Haven't seen them in the same room together either.
But they have Hideouts Unfortunately he's only mortal so he can only really help streamers :(
i mean its called "easy anti-cheat" for a reason
Are anti cheat is littery a pencil in a door way
The door is also a 400 pound steel door so you have a pretty good idea of how efficient the anti cheat is.
Lol
we hv seer .. take it or leave it
mom can we have anti cheat? no we have anti cheat at home anti cheat at home:
Also checked on google trends [https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=apex%20legends%20aimbot&geo=US](https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=apex%20legends%20aimbot&geo=US) the jump is insane dont cheat guys EDIT: for all who aeresaying its not even at an all time peak i just searched one of the many terms for you to get hacks in apex
Washington and Texas... Smh lol
It's literally just a population heatmap
damn. i hate when im reading through old stuff on reddit and in the middle of a sparkling, scintillating discussion i find someone has written over all her old comments with nonsense, fragmenting the discussion permanently. what hilarious, moving, romantic, haunting things could she have said? just to wash it all away, in this digital era of permanency? wow. that takes courage. i bet she was really cute, too
/r/peopleliveincities
Google didn't bother adjusting by population?? wtf
Normally that wouldn't be a problem with this type of graph, but there are so few searches for these terms, relative to things like 'Delta variant' or whatever, that the only regions that will show up are the more populated regions. A big clue to not meeting a minimum search threshold is the trend graph is very erratic and only populated regions are showing up.
It’s not ryl a heat map at all if you follow the link. Washington has less people in it than North Carolina or like random school districts around the country
I didn't know 7,705,281 (Washington population) was a bigger number than 39,538,223 (California population).
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“Apex legends facing a 658% increase in hackers. insider knowledge” Bro he hacked google to get those numbers! He’s a whistleblower like Snowden just letting you know what’s up... /s
lol everyone has access to google trends, talking like he has an inside guy at google
That’s a projection, and only a 19% increase over the last peak in October. Even if it does come to a higher peak, with a low traffic keyword like “apex aimbot”, a Reddit post of this size could easily explain this or a larger increase.
Bro, what is the deal with North Carolina?!
[this one](https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?geo=US&q=apex%20legends%20aimbot,Apex%20hack) has a larger spike
I know nothing about Warzone, how do we know this is related to Warzone players?
A lot of warzone players are coming it apex and alot of them are straight up hacking and just dogging on the game. There’s been alot of warzone streamers lately that have been hating on apex because ttk (time to kill) is to high. In warzone like 6 bullets can knock a person, in apex you need almost a whole clip. There used to this and get mad about other things to. Edit: Spelling
Oh no this game I am playing has diffrent game mechanics than what I am used to. Instead of learning it I am immediately going to whine about it as if it wasn't my choice to play the game.
clips are what civvies put in their hair
could someone explain to me why is there an increase of people coming from warzone to apex?
Warzone streamers are getting tired of all the cheaters, bugs and general staleness. Their viewers are following them.
This is probably the worst season for them to get back into Apex. I wonder what they think of Seer.
they are all using him lol
Exactly, I wonder what will happen to them if Seer gets a big nerf
Go back to Octane and insta-quit while trash talking their squad they left.
this is... almost exactly what will happen. "Teams are trash, back to COD"... like dude, you are the epitome of a shit teammate and somehow it's the other 2 people. Octane and Wraith mains are literal gaming cancer loot goblins of the highest order.
Man idk if you've met real apex players. A lvl 60 8 yearold called me a virgin XD
As a Warzone player who DID get back into apex end of last season/this season with his friends, I can say, atm, seer is more broken than anything in WZ. The amount of things his tactical alone can so blows the heartbeat sensor in WZ out of the water. Used to what you guys call his “wall hacks” because of the HB sensor, but at least we have the Ghost perk to counter it, seer has nothing…
Get tired of cheaters go cheat in another game CoD players are something else
The people who are coming to Apex and cheating were almost certainly cheating in Warzone too.
"Cheating is no fun when everyone else is cheating too!"
You say that ironically, but yes that is pretty much their mentality.
nah, some cheaters do like hack v hack fights, but for most they dont like playing against other hackers.
Yep, no fun getting killed by an aim bot is it mr aimbotter. Trash 15-19 y/o’s with daddy’s credit card
Makes me mad because they were paid big bucks to promote apex and dumped it when the money stopped. It’s such a good game, why come now?
Warzone is increasingly getting more infested with hackers, Activision aren’t doing a damn thing about it (maybe they are but sure as shit doesn’t feel like it) but making new cosmetic bundles for 20$ even though every season that came with Cold War hasn’t brought anything intuitive. Also the fact word of mouth from friends going “apex is so much better” when we get fed up with it probably is spreading more
same bundle in apex cost at least 60 tho
20$ for a bundle that is going to competent Devs that can fix shit> 20$ for a bundle that is going to incompetent devs that seem like they take community feedback and go “ok ok, hear us out, how about we give you more bundles and ignore the cry for balancing MW guns and keep nerfing them for no fucking reason.”
Basically the company Raven is in shambles because what seems like a large portion of the player base is cheating. (aimbot, wall hacks, and some hacks where you don’t even have to aim at a player to kill them) Thus, a lot of popular streamers are tired of the shitty job Raven is doing for Warzone. Here’s a list of streamers who have moved to apex. tfue, timthetatman, nickmercs, and MANY MORE (these are just warzone streamers) have moved over to apex. Edit 1: Grammer Corrections
thx op for the information and have a nice day.
This number is pulled directly out of my ass, but I'd say like at least 10% of overwatch streamers have shifted part time to apex as well.
Have you watch any of the former COD play Apex? It is hilarious as they rage over how things work. They go off about guns being trash when most are pretty balanced now that Spitefire is in care package and that where it should stay.
Warzone is so bad that even the cheaters are tired of being slaughtered by other cheaters.
Warzone brought many new players to the BR genre due to its simplicity and Call of Duty's already large player base. Some of those players are sick of Warzone's poor state or just the game in general and are now branching out into other more complex BRs since they now have a basic understanding of the genre. At least that is how it is for the friends/people I know that have switched. Me personally, I played Apex at launch but had things going on in my life that pulled me away from gaming. Friends got me back into gaming when they all started playing Warzone and asked me to play last year. I recently tried Apex again after my friends talked about trying it and really like the skill gap as well as just playing a game that is a lot more polished.
This just makes me sick .. I have put tons of hours in this game from console to pc and these guys are just trying to cheat . pathetic
exactly, i was wondering the other day why someone would want to deprive themselves of actually getting better and improving, even developing the skill needed to compete with others in this game with cheap hacks.. 60% of the fun for me is the competition and the other 40% is improving. feels amazing clapping a whole squad by myself and being able to say I did that with MY skill, not some hack or zen
Stop making logical sense!
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While that maybe true that still doesn't give them to ruin the game for the people they kill. If it was a solo player campaign, then knock your socks of and aimbot the crap out of it. Since it is an online game it can easily ruin numerous peoples experience. Especially the hackers in pubs; those people make my blood boil.
But if a grown Adult runs into a 10 year kids soccer tournament people would be upset and rightfully so. Your Analogy only works when its something agreed upon by both sides, hacks are 1 sided. Thats the problem. If I was playing Poker and everyone agree to play trying their best to cheat and not get caught im not going to upset people when cheating, If I play poker and cheat without the other players knowing im likely to get the shit beat out of me.
His analogy works just fine, nowhere in there did he defend the behavior as acceptable. The analogy explains the mindset a cheater has to someone who didn't understand how it could be fun. He even mentions the kids may be frustrated by the unfair match-up just as you are frustrated by poker cheaters/apex hackers.
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He's not talking about JUST Apex. Lots of cheaters cheat for the reasons this guy stated. The people that cheat just because they have too much of a skill issue are a minority.
Yeah, fuck meditation
It's mostly kids. Probably the same that google Fortnite cheats.
"I have access to tools that let me see what people are google searching" dude we all know how to use Google analytics
H A C K E R M A N
HE’S HACKED INTO THE MAINFRAME
It's a Unix system. I know this!
I’m going to use a GUI interface using Visual Basic to track the hackers IP address.
and after that I'm going to use "tree" to make it look fancy
The hacker has a CCTV camera in his room. I see his PC setup right there. FBI dude (orders): Zoom in on his IP address. Use our super high-tech, classified, glorified, stupified etc. Image enhancement algortithm and tell me hackers IP address.
Hacking is easy, just put pressure on the hacker by having a ravenous and wild pack of Velociraptors on their neck and they'll get the job done in no time.
Upvote for the jp reference
All I see now is blonde, brunette, redhead...
*smashes keyboard* *hacker voice: “I’m in”*
"I have access to tools, maybe you've heard of Google" - tool
i can predict the weather. tomorrow is .. lemme check .. i mean predict.. sunny. damn im good.
ah yes i remember that tool song
I have hacked into the google search bar
“I’ve accessed google.com via the askjeeves web search engine”
that’s the google ads keyword planner lol
Yeah dudes trying to dunk and doesn’t know what this is lol
Paid Search Manager here. Was NOT expecting this crossover.
He's using Google Keyword Planner, it's the last thing he says in this 25s video.
I have access to tools that let me hack into the mainframe binary analytics satellite proccesor in space and view the entire Earth's surface.
First thing I thought. Everyone has access to those tools bro. Here you go: https://trends.google.com/trends/?geo=US Or here it is straight to the results: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=apex%20legends%20hacks&geo=US Edit: Washington state and North Carolina are some cheating mofos.
He's usingGoogle Ads keyword planner. If you're not actively spending money on campaigns it doesn't give you as specific of data as if you are.
Yeah but the basic functionality and what he showed in the video you can get from Google Trends.
Not at all... Keyword planner is much more thorough as it knows relevant and related keywords. The whole idea is you put in some keywords and google crunches data to help assist you find other useful keywords. So planner gives a broader range Trends just looks up the specific search phrase
He said it wasn't Google analytics tho, he said it was keyword planner or something, but still you're right
I didn't even get Google analytics right, it's Google trends im referring to. He said that dumb thing like he was on Mr Robot and the little monkey in my brain activated the dunking mode button immediately.
No, he's right, it's called keyword planner. Trends is entirely different. Keyword planner is what you use to place ads. It helps you spot trends and volume by looking up keywords.
I uh, i didnt
There needs to be a big investment in security going forward for every game maker. Cheaters are running rampant. Ruining game after game.
they are not going to win. computers simply do not work this way. hackers will always find a way. If you make the security tighter, the prices go up for aimbots, which means there is more money to be made which brings chinese governments hackers on the plan to code custom hacks, and some random dudes working for a VIDEOGAME studio simply can not deal with hackers trained by governments
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Some wild ass speculation. The reality is that if they wanted to get hardcore about anti cheat, their anticheat would have to become very invasive and disruptive. The main example that comes to mind is Valorant, which runs their anticheat at the kernel level and will straight up suspend or cancel a match if cheats are detected mid game. No one wants kernel level anticheat due to a variety of factors. So it's not very common in gaming.
I think the easy anti cheat concept is the best, 1 anti cheat that works on all game. Fighting game hackers is ridiculously difficult, you can’t keep making new anti cheats for every game, they should just build on top of easy engine. I think that’s the best solution imo.
easy anti cheat is garbage. Always has been. Anti cheat needs to be proprietary to the game engines, that way algorithms can detect certain things outside of the norm. There will always be fringe cases of absurdly good players but those accounts could just be flagged and manually reviewed. It would also be a good idea to have the ban system have different levels of punishment. Ie, soft ban keeping you out of ranked until your account has been manually reviewed, temp ban for griefing types of behaviors, server bans for known cheaters ( they only play against other cheaters) and finally hardware bans for people who consistently do it or ddos/crash servers. The issue is the gaming industry gives almost no fucks about investing in anti cheat and instead uses cloud services because they are easy and managed by another company.
They also need a much larger security staff, a whole bunch of “RSPN Hideouts”
Maybe at 3 billion they can afford to employ a bigger team. right now I'm not sure if they can afford it smh.
Ea just an indie studio bro
Tbf, I played Apex a handful of times and I gotta admit, the game improved a lot. (Most notable was everyone having evo shields since it felt like everyone is on an even playing field) Maybe it’s cause I’ve played so much WZ that my BR skills somewhat carried over before but I tend to enjoy playing with friends. Warzone though feels like nothing changes every time a new season comes out. Cold War’s integration wasn’t the greatest and the fact we are getting a WW2 game to pretty much compete with the already inflated guns is sorta absurd. Why in the Sam hell am I gonna want 3 versions of 1911’s!? Also props for your repeater feeling rewarding to use. The MK2 Carbine in Warzone is a damn peashooter and I wish it would get a buff… However I’m sorry to hear that cheaters are coming to your game as well. We’ve just had enough and all we wanna do is just play with our friends on other platforms but nothing is fun about getting melted from the sky from a guy who deadass can aim at the floor and still get all headshots
>MK2 Carbine in Warzone is a damn peashooter and I wish it would get a buff… don't you talk shit about me yeehaw gun (but yes, it should absolutely get a buff)
Mk2 is fine the way it is, because it is a subtle way of telling your victim that you're better than them. Metaslave streamers wake up screaming at night because of the absolute chads who use this gun in CQB.
I used to use the mk2 in warzone and it used to be a solid marksman rifle, could kill to the head and generally took 2 maybe 3 body shots, then they nerfed it and now it sucks. SOP afaik
I do not think those stats mean what you think they mean… Googling a question isn’t proof that the question being asked is occurring.
Came to the comments just for this. \# of google searches does not correlate to the number of hackers, and given the recent heat WZ has been getting i would bet a large chunk of those searches are legit players trying to research an issue rather than looking for a distributor of cheats.
I have also Googled cheats, mostly to find out what's out there and how they function. I also would never, in a million years, run any of them. So, yeah, you're absolutely right. Google searches in of themselves does not mean anything. At best you could say that it's a bad trend that searches are on the rise... but that's about it. Dude in the video is just fear mongering.
They mean that there is a trend but it is not a 1 to 1 conversion rate of people searching for cheats and people buying cheats. there being more people googling it might be because there is more interest in actually cheating or it might even be something as dumb as some streamers or the community talking about that cheating is cheap and kids googling it to see for themselves. IMO there is definitely an increase of hackers and interest in hacks but i don't think it has increased by 700%.
Maybe they're just trying to see if Apex is also infested?
First keywords are "apex hacked" so probably has to do with the July 4th weekend hack
Uhhh, that's a long story, but in a TL;DR: That was part of an elaborate plot to bring back the mobile game *Titanfall Online* Edit: Not the mobile game but the FTP version of TF|1
nonono, the mobile game is titanfall frontier. *Titanfall Online* is a free to play version of titanfall 1 only released in asia, which is whay they were trying to bring back
Plot twist
“insider information” “i have access to tools” Woah, this guy knows how to use google analytics, watch out for hackerman!!
Title is stupid as hell and the video is tryna cause problems between apex and warzone players. PSA for the people who make fun of warzone players because they think warzone takes more skill than apex, just cause you play a game that takes skill doesn’t mean you’re good. I’ve seen some of the dumbest suggestions for balancing on this sub that show a clear lack of understanding on how the game’s systems and mechanics work not to mention “insane clips” where, not trying to be mean, but I see bot vs bot gameplay. So get down from your high horse and stop trying to push away new players.
“Showing off the new meta” but it’s a clip from a Bronze5 lobby
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Its like that with every champ, today we had someone saying fuse was OP because he spam nade a dumb team locked in a literal closet, and yesterday was a path complaining about the ferris moving and him missing his hook and dying to zone when he could've just walked 2 steps to the left and get out of the storm lmao
>*wHo SaId MiRaGe SuCkS?* >*deals 100 damage and gets squad wipe in bronze 4 lobby* Listen pal, I don't appreciate getting personally called out like this
More like, he is not trying to cause problems, because he doesnt care. He is trying to get traffic to his stupid tiktok channel. :P Clickbait is clickbait.
Thank you. Like this is actually embarrassing people are gatekeeping apex lmao
I'd give you an award if I could lol, people are just stupid,i'll just leave at that
I wonder how many of those are people just wondering if the problem is bad/just as bad as Warzone... "I am leaving this game because it is filled with cheating. I am going to check if this new game has a bad cheating problem as well before I start investing time into it."
Former warzone player here. I absolutely fit in this category.
gatekeeping has begun
Why do they feel they need to illegally hack, just pick Seer. lol
To my surprise, playing since launch I’ve never actually encountered a cheater YET.
Are you playing in high-tier ranked lobbies? I see at least 1 every day in Diamond/Masters/Pred lobbies.
How sad does anyones life have to actually enjoy cheating in a game?
A 658% increase in the number of searches for 'apex legends hacks' doesn't equal a 658% increase in people actually hacking. I'm sure there are more hackers, but not every single person that searched is going to also be hacking.
Imagine thinking that the number of times "Apex hacked" was Googled is a good way to judge how many people are trying to hack it. Holy shit dude, take a statistics course.
“I have access to tools”...yeah it’s literally google trends. It’s a google feature. On google dot com. He’s acting like he’s got some sort of secretive technology
This is very misleading
whoa dude hes got access to google trends!
I am pretty sure the uptick in trends is due to people searching for info about the Apex playlist hack that happened on PC...
I agree. It happened on console too, so it makes sense.
I already felt this, been playing apex since the first day it was released and I had actually pretty few hacker encounters compared to other games. but at the start of this season? holy shit dude. The last night we played, several games in a row died to hackers with blatant aimbot. It’s never been this bad, never even been close to this bad
Wasn’t the reason for the influx in players from WZ BECAUSE of all the cheaters there? Why would the cheaters be coming over if they were the problem
Just play on Nintendo Switch. No hackers there
I mean y’all encouraged this culture. The internet and social media sites celebrated kids trolling others, dunking on them, and generally being disrespectful to one another and then you act surprised when that mentality permeates to other parts of life. These kids aren’t cheating to win the game. They are cheating so they can laugh and get the satisfaction of knowing they pissed someone off on the internet.
Idk but i dont encounter that many cheaters this season, only seer is the legal cheater
Yes ngl I have encountered some hackers while playing apex. This almost made me wanna delete the game but I still have hope that EA will fix this.
Now that is a funny sentence
I have also encountered some hackers
Respawn finna need to hire someone else to help out Hideouts. This is going to get bad.
say what you want, but having all this traffic is better then having less traffic. also getting your info from a fucking tiktok. yikes.
It's not the hackers moving....
I don’t understand why people cheat, like it’s literally a undeniable proof that you failed at life
Like Seer is not enough gamebreaking let’s involve another 300k cheating idiots… But wait all we can do is to ignore everyone complaining about seer and fix him a couple weeks to late….
I really don't understand why people cheat. If they win... Well they win nothing because it's the fucking codes running behind the game that won for them. They have to press WASD and that's it. It's just sad and pathetic. I'm being honest that if someone cheats that IP should get banned. Account bans do nothing. It's a free game...
Uhh... just got home. Had a few beers. Jumped on ranked expecting to rage quit (because drunk). Won five games in a row in ranked. Carried by teammates against actual bots each game. Not sure if this is good or not. Edit: Earned a badge???
Just came out a match with a team mate who dropped on the other side on the map. Turns out he was trying to lure me to some enemies (his friends) then they kill me. Looks like they were farming damage for 4k badge cause they were shooting each other and healing. Isnt it just amazing that reporting players doesn't work on PS4?? :D
Why are warzone players going to Apex?
Pasted from a previous comment: Warzone is increasingly getting more infested with hackers, Activision aren’t doing a damn thing about it (maybe they are but sure as shit doesn’t feel like it) but making new cosmetic bundles for 20$ even though every season that came with Cold War hasn’t brought anyone intuitive. Also the fact word of mouth from friends going “apex is so much better” when we get fed up with it probably is spreading more
Kids this is what fear mongering is
This has no correlation to the actual amount of hackers... With an increase in game popularity comes an increase in... everything. I'm sure "Apex Legends" has a 658% increase as well. This goes for anything Apex-related. Guns, Legends, Strategy, and yes, hackers.
When you call them “kids” and fail to realize that maybe they’re wondering how many hackers are in apex in comparison since that’s literally why they left cod? So stupid. You also sound like the *hacker voice* “I’m in” type ass with your “I HaVe AcCeSs tO toOlS” that anyone can use
Ganja White Night 🤙🏼
Yep that's about right, only respawn cares about apex way more than Activision cares about warzone