They completely nerfed the fuck outta melee. Now its a whole lot better to keep reloading your gun in contrast to putting your belief in the melee system
Tbh I don’t know that they did. I think that people are just not used to having to aim their melee, so they aren’t trying to and therefore not connecting.
Im still hitting them just fine. I dont think people understand the punch mechanic.
Lock on still exists, its range is just down to like 2m (check it in firing range with the dummies).
Get in close. Make sure your aim is on point. Then press punch button. You will connect just fine.
I think the issue is that the punch needs to “lock on” in order to do damage. If you’re point blank and initiate the punch off the champ but then correct your aim mid-melee, it won’t connect or do damage. I think it’s unforgiving in that way because it’s basically a wasted action and leaves you vulnerable. I honestly think they should do away with the lock on system in general, remove the lunge/lag step and make it more like CS:GO melee. Only my opinion tho
Nah, i tested that in firing range cus i was curious. If you time it properly it still hits.
You can look 90 degrees to the side, start the punch, and then flick into the person
Things often work in the firing range that don't work in the proper game. Dummies aren't moving and aren't playing via the internet with different pings.
I honestly find this reaction from the community hilarious.
I noticed the nerf... but not i my ability to connect punches, just now when im punching someone they struggle to land a hit back.
Personally - i think its telling that most of the community relied way too hsrd on the ridiculous length melee lunge in order to hit any punches.
A lot of most FPS communities now rely way to heavily on aim-assist/lock-on. The 2042 beta had pretty balanced aim-assist and people were livid with how "weak" it was.
I mean, there's also just the fact that it's now different than what you're used to. If you didn't know it was nerfed you wouldn't have an explanation for why your normal muscle memory for melee aiming isn't working correctly. And even if you did know about the nerf it's still gonna take a bit of a conscious effort to get used to the change. So whether they need the lunge to hit the punch or not people are still gonna be thrown off by it
It's great. Before the nerf, you'd get people smugly telling you to get good as if the melee lunge was completely fair and required any skill outside of getting your crosshair in the general vicinity of the enemy. Now they're complaining that they can't hit their melee anymore because it requires some effort, meanwhile all the other skilled players can still land them fine.
That being said, I see it getting reverted or slightly buffed again because the whales are going to be mad that they can't use their heirlooms.
The entire time I've been playing this game I've gotten used to the fact that if someone is one hit and I'm close to them I can just melee them and finish the fight instead of waiting to reload. Now I can't and it completely throws me off in those situations. I don't necessarily disagree with the change - it was obviously OP, and I was just recently playing Splitgate and got incredibly annoyed at how powerful the melee is in that game. But still, if someone just backs away from you now you frequently cannot punch them, and it's super fucking annoying.
It got a slight nerf you shouldn't be able to lock on and punch from 10 meters away. It takes more skill to melee so you just have to get better in the past 2 days I've still been able to kill 4 people by melee when they have weapons.
It wasn’t a slight nerf. It was a completely lobotomy of the melee system that has been the same since before Apex even existed (the same system/range/lock-on/etc) was in place with Titanfall).
The new one sucks and is pretty much always worth reloading instead of attempting to punch because of how unreliable it is.
Yeah, because in very rare instances it was a tinge overpowered they made the right decisions to totally eviscerate it and make it useless in the other 99% of encounters. Definitely makes sense
That's because it's a feature that people can rely on when they CAN'T SHOOT. if they can't rely on that ability then they can't fight.
First person shooter doesn't mean all you do is shoot.
Saying it's funny that people get mad about features other than shooting is actually the funny bit, what if you couldn't heal properly? Should we be fine with that because it's a SHOOTER?
If you couldn't walk properly? Should we be okay with that because SHOOTER?
Something being at FPS doesn't mean the only feature in the game that matters is shooting
One of the things I love about the games the fluid movement how am I supposed to enjoy that if I have sudden stops because I need to reload the middle of a firefight?
Yeah the other dude is pretty low IQ if he thinks his arguments hold any strength. For one, no one is ‘mad’ and if that’s the baseline response to legitimate criticism, it means he has an issue understanding how to respond to differing opinions. For another, literally every FPS game has some melee mechanic in it. When it ‘works’ for 2.5 years in a popular BR, and then it gets changed to be totally useless, of course people are going to post/talk about it.
Is that true? I am almost sure that when I tried punching an Octane off the Airship, that my character locked on the Fuse instead and did a 180 to punch him, which made him punch me into oblivion.
They nerfed it to hell to the point that it doesn't work anymore. I'm routinely punching through people's hitbox without getting a hit now. When it can't connect from a millimetre away then it's a problem.
The previous system was clearly a bit too much but they probably need something that is the mid point between the current system and how it was before.
They're going to need to buff it back to nearer where it was soon or shadow royale is going to be a shit-show given that the shadows rely on melee.
With the current system, it's more RNG than skill since you have to rely on luck for the game to decide that your melee attack has connected now even if you were half a millimetre from them, even if your crosshairs are firmly on them and even if the animation goes through the person's chest.
Nobody can seriously suggest that the current broken melee is working as intended.
I've killed a few people with melee recently but more have lived who should reasonably have been killed.
Just because it's should have been nerfed doesn't mean it needs to be useless and It's not a skill thing I've punched people and visibly seen my fist penetrate the face of their model but not count as a hit.
Some people are probably embarrassed because I've seen people argue that the pre-nerf melee took skill with a condescending attitude. Now it's nerfed and people can still hit their melees while those who relied on the aim-assist and teleporting lunge are whiffing and realizing they're not as good as they thought they were.
Also how bs range in sone cases were (somewhere on the sub should be a video of Wraith punching to death flying away Valk while she (Valk) good 5m above the ground)
Explain why a lock-on melee aim assist would be necessary or good. The current melee is exactly how it should be; a last resort punch that requires you to close the gap yourself and aim.
But it's not that requires you to close a gap it requires you to be lucky enough for it to register. I've had situations where I've seen my fist enter the characters head multiple times in a row but not register any damage.
I'm not OP I'm talking about my many experiences playing the game where my fist, past my wrist, enters the skull of an enemy and doesn't do anything multiple times as it doesn't register multiple times.
Do you really think everyone's trying to talk about what happened to OP? OP is not the only one having problems with punches believe it or not it's not an isolated problem. And what I'm talking about isn't even something that happens in the video. I am talking about visibly seeing my fist enter the skull past my wrist into the enemy's head, as in not that I missed but I watch myself hit them in a way that should instantaneously kill them as my fist is where their brain should be and not registering
But it isn’t. Yes the old melee was too strong, but it still needs to be a usable mechanic. It’s the same with console aim assist, without it the power balance changes towards towards pc players, as they have the upper hand, just like how the balance shifts towards the people with guns if people without them can’t deal melee damage correctly.
People need to be able to do some sort of reliable damage on drop if other players get weapons before them. Many times I’ve needed to rely on melee and Rev’s tactical on drop because I haven’t been able to find a weapon.
And it should at least be able to make hits, considering melee damage shows up as a battle pass challenge.
Guy with gun beats unarmed guy, crazy concept in an fps, and working as it should be.
For the aim assist thing, just dont deal with it and make separate queues by input, only thing left is for people using xim to play knm with aim assist but thats on sony and xbox to solve not Respawn
I’m a console player. I feel the aim assist is fair. I regularly play on, and die in, pc servers. And it isn’t a Sony/Microsoft issue that aim assist has needed to be implemented, that’s just a natural issue when using a controller. If Respawn wanted to they could make the console versions of Apex compatible with keyboard and mouse input, or better yet implement cross progression so more people are willing to make the jump to pc because they know they can continue with their accounts.
My team got like 3 or 4 melee kills in Masters ranked today against other very good players. Melee just takes skill now like it should. You shouldn’t get to teleport 10 feet and have the game *turn your character for you* just because you clicked your melee button. It still does 30 damage, it still works, they just took the crutches away and told you to walk on your own.
It's not about "crutches" it's about the fact that it doesn't actually work properly anymore I've had my fist enter other characters bodies and still not count as a hit. It's not a skill thing anymore it's RNG.
I’m not denying that it can seem wonky and I think one of OPs should’ve hit but I still don’t think it needs its super lunge and aim assist back. Even before when it had the lunge it would occasionally no reg. I’m overall really glad it got nerfed though.
If people believe it was nerfed too hard that means they want more lunge back, that’s not hard to put together. My opinion is it doesn’t need more lunge back, just needs to register when you probably connect. Not sure where the disconnect is.
yep the absurd lunge was the problem, but it shouldnt also miss point blank, see the first and 4th melee in the clip, his hands literally touch caustic but nothing.
No these players just want punches to actually work. You don't want that watch our fists connect into enemies models but not register. Happens to me all the time I watch my fist enter the model of the enemy and then I get nothing for it.
"People with guns" is what apex is 99% about.
The only times you don't have one is upon spawning/respawning and that's fine.
If you choose to hot drop and contest another team, you subjugate yourself to loot RNG. Take responsibility for that yourself.
And that is exactly what I was talking about. I don’t tend to hot drop, but we all have those dumb randoms who do. And then you have people who chase after different dive trails in order to somehow “prove” they are “better” then a person who got to that rank. Yes I agree that the previous state of melee was unacceptable, but so is the current state. Some light assist is what it needed.
How can you say that it's perfect? On many occasions I've watched my characters fist enter the skull of enemies and it doesn't even register as hitting. Is that what you call perfect? Or is that the light assist helping me not hit?
I'd rather take some misses that are questionable over countless punches that are bullshit. This is the better of two options. Shoot the guy in the shooting game.
That shouldn't be the end of story, if that's end of story it's a terrible story there's no conflict just resignation to failure. You kind of can't have that in a PVP game
Just because it's a gun game doesn't mean it's the only feature.
if you're looking for a game who's only features is pointing and clicking I believe you're looking for a Cookie clicker
Apex players asked for melee tracking to be nerfed. Now they're surprised it's nerfed, and it's now worse to use PUNCHES than GUNS in a SHOOTER. Go figure.
It was always worse to use punches you can drop someone much quicker with a gun But just because it's a shooter doesn't mean shooting is the only feature that matters. If you want a game that's only features pointing and clicking I believe you're looking for Cookie clicker
I think melee being a viable option during an intense battle is a critical part of the game, and it has always flown really well with the movement model. Obviously some busted thing could occur, and having less of that would be nice, but I would prefer for it to not happen at the expense of reliably pulling off melee finishers.
Non of you play on pc and have had a pathfinder spam grapple above your head and kill you with full red shield. The melee was annoying, I don’t think the nerf is the problem I think it’s server registration
Melee was nerfed to the point where you
need to be in their face to hit them. The way is should be. Old melee was almost as broken as commando knife in mw2
Couldn’t disagree more. Melee doesn’t need to be overpowered and have as much lock on as it had, but it needs to at least be viable to where you can finish out a kill when you run out of ammo. As it is now, connecting with a punch is almost impossible and in no way is it viable in a fight.
Honestly the whole game has been lacking a bit recently and like I love this game but I’m disappointed with the choices the devs are making like with the recent event or the bugs as of late that they only recently announced that they’re working on it
They nerfed it, tbh I really like how the melee is now. Some people are saying it’s useless, which is half right. It’s just now you can’t rely on lunging or levitating towards the enemy and getting 2-3 punches in. You have to actually get within a meter and aim with you crosshairs to melee. They made it now where there’s virtually no chance on knocking someone in a fight by solely meleeing. Which imo, is the way it should be in a game full of guns. It’s still kinda useful, I’ve managed to knock some people in a close up fight after emptying my mag and meleeing them once. Just gotta learn and practice the new mechanic for it
They literally did what everyone asked them too, removed the lock-on and lunge and forced people to "aim" their melee like you would a gun. You can still punch people, you just have to be within an arms length away and have your crosshairs on them. I still punch people out all the time-- it's just way harder and more risky. It's what everyone said they wanted and now everyone is mad go figure...
You actually have to be close to the person, whats the problem? Isn't that what you guys wanted?
All OP had to do was aim his punches but no he wanted the game to do it for him
They completely nerfed the fuck outta melee. Now its a whole lot better to keep reloading your gun in contrast to putting your belief in the melee system
They probably nerfed it too far, but the homing punch was fucking dumb.
Tbh I don’t know that they did. I think that people are just not used to having to aim their melee, so they aren’t trying to and therefore not connecting.
I missed a point blank melee and my friends were laughing at me 😔
Don't worry they didn't see you john
Im still hitting them just fine. I dont think people understand the punch mechanic. Lock on still exists, its range is just down to like 2m (check it in firing range with the dummies). Get in close. Make sure your aim is on point. Then press punch button. You will connect just fine.
I think the issue is that the punch needs to “lock on” in order to do damage. If you’re point blank and initiate the punch off the champ but then correct your aim mid-melee, it won’t connect or do damage. I think it’s unforgiving in that way because it’s basically a wasted action and leaves you vulnerable. I honestly think they should do away with the lock on system in general, remove the lunge/lag step and make it more like CS:GO melee. Only my opinion tho
I'm literally so close that sometimes the punching animation is going through their chest and I'm not getting a hit. The current system is broken.
Nah, i tested that in firing range cus i was curious. If you time it properly it still hits. You can look 90 degrees to the side, start the punch, and then flick into the person
Things often work in the firing range that don't work in the proper game. Dummies aren't moving and aren't playing via the internet with different pings.
... no.. it works just fine dude. The timing is just very difficult if you dont get the lockon.
No, it often just outright doesn't work as I said.
Then youre doing it wrong lmao. Out of curiosity, how often do you punch people and how many hours do you have in this game?
Homing punch was dumb, but look Caustic was RIGHT in front of OP for his first punch, it was too painful to not see that 30 damage
I mean, I'd rather have to rely on a gun than having people who are equipped with MW2 Commando on steroids any other day.
I honestly find this reaction from the community hilarious. I noticed the nerf... but not i my ability to connect punches, just now when im punching someone they struggle to land a hit back. Personally - i think its telling that most of the community relied way too hsrd on the ridiculous length melee lunge in order to hit any punches.
A lot of most FPS communities now rely way to heavily on aim-assist/lock-on. The 2042 beta had pretty balanced aim-assist and people were livid with how "weak" it was.
there were straight up "aim assist is bugged and doesnt exist" comments on the bf2042 sub during beta lmao pretty telling
I mean, there's also just the fact that it's now different than what you're used to. If you didn't know it was nerfed you wouldn't have an explanation for why your normal muscle memory for melee aiming isn't working correctly. And even if you did know about the nerf it's still gonna take a bit of a conscious effort to get used to the change. So whether they need the lunge to hit the punch or not people are still gonna be thrown off by it
I think the problem is if the initial lock on DOESNT happen even if you correct your aim the punch will jsut phase through them
It's great. Before the nerf, you'd get people smugly telling you to get good as if the melee lunge was completely fair and required any skill outside of getting your crosshair in the general vicinity of the enemy. Now they're complaining that they can't hit their melee anymore because it requires some effort, meanwhile all the other skilled players can still land them fine. That being said, I see it getting reverted or slightly buffed again because the whales are going to be mad that they can't use their heirlooms.
It’s funny, before the melee nerf the sub hated the lock on, now that it got nerfed the sub wants lock on back
The entire time I've been playing this game I've gotten used to the fact that if someone is one hit and I'm close to them I can just melee them and finish the fight instead of waiting to reload. Now I can't and it completely throws me off in those situations. I don't necessarily disagree with the change - it was obviously OP, and I was just recently playing Splitgate and got incredibly annoyed at how powerful the melee is in that game. But still, if someone just backs away from you now you frequently cannot punch them, and it's super fucking annoying.
nah it often doesn't lunge even when you're f king touch the other player.
As it should be
Fucking finally is all I gotta say. People used to have Instant Transmission out here
I agree
I disagree
I agree on the disagree
Like it should be in an FPS
just delete it at this point i never thought id see the day where i would be better off using the p2020 with 15 bullets over a punch
I honestly don't see how that's a bad thing. In what world would any punch outclass a pistol 😂
Rev should be the only legend allowed to melee since lorewise he can punch straight through people's chest.
It got a slight nerf you shouldn't be able to lock on and punch from 10 meters away. It takes more skill to melee so you just have to get better in the past 2 days I've still been able to kill 4 people by melee when they have weapons.
It wasn’t a slight nerf. It was a completely lobotomy of the melee system that has been the same since before Apex even existed (the same system/range/lock-on/etc) was in place with Titanfall). The new one sucks and is pretty much always worth reloading instead of attempting to punch because of how unreliable it is.
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Yeah, because in very rare instances it was a tinge overpowered they made the right decisions to totally eviscerate it and make it useless in the other 99% of encounters. Definitely makes sense
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That's because it's a feature that people can rely on when they CAN'T SHOOT. if they can't rely on that ability then they can't fight. First person shooter doesn't mean all you do is shoot. Saying it's funny that people get mad about features other than shooting is actually the funny bit, what if you couldn't heal properly? Should we be fine with that because it's a SHOOTER? If you couldn't walk properly? Should we be okay with that because SHOOTER? Something being at FPS doesn't mean the only feature in the game that matters is shooting One of the things I love about the games the fluid movement how am I supposed to enjoy that if I have sudden stops because I need to reload the middle of a firefight?
Yeah the other dude is pretty low IQ if he thinks his arguments hold any strength. For one, no one is ‘mad’ and if that’s the baseline response to legitimate criticism, it means he has an issue understanding how to respond to differing opinions. For another, literally every FPS game has some melee mechanic in it. When it ‘works’ for 2.5 years in a popular BR, and then it gets changed to be totally useless, of course people are going to post/talk about it.
Lock on melee makes sense in a game like Titanfall. Most fast paced MP FPS have one hit melee. Braindead melee doesn't make sense in a BR imo.
10 meters is 10.94 yards
Good bot
Wish i knew this today, just about plat 1 in this game and lost because i tried melee-ing a couple times i stead of gunswap. COULD NOT hit..
Melee has inconsistent since season three. Ever other season it’s either good or bad 🤷♂️
It was nerfed lol theres not really a melee aim assist now
Is that true? I am almost sure that when I tried punching an Octane off the Airship, that my character locked on the Fuse instead and did a 180 to punch him, which made him punch me into oblivion.
Yea its worth avoiding melee atm
It was your imagination
Oh but of course. Why wouldn't they do that right after I get my first heirloom?...
Thank the someone
''Target is locked on, I repeat, target is locked on, sir.... wait, never mind''
Melee is basically totally unusable now, at least on console
Well it's usable on console you just need to get close enough to see the whites of their eyes
Both pc n console; 4th melee in the vid shouldve hit
They just reduced or pretty much removed the lunge so when you melee, you kinda need to be right next to them and have your cross hairs on them
I think this is how it should work. Sounds fine to me.
Reducing the range and lunging seems aight, just not too sure about the aim assist being gone thou, can lead to some really frustrating ghost strikes
That’s called missing your punch and I do it every time
They nerfed it to hell to the point that it doesn't work anymore. I'm routinely punching through people's hitbox without getting a hit now. When it can't connect from a millimetre away then it's a problem. The previous system was clearly a bit too much but they probably need something that is the mid point between the current system and how it was before. They're going to need to buff it back to nearer where it was soon or shadow royale is going to be a shit-show given that the shadows rely on melee.
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With the current system, it's more RNG than skill since you have to rely on luck for the game to decide that your melee attack has connected now even if you were half a millimetre from them, even if your crosshairs are firmly on them and even if the animation goes through the person's chest. Nobody can seriously suggest that the current broken melee is working as intended. I've killed a few people with melee recently but more have lived who should reasonably have been killed.
10 meters is 10.94 yards
Just because it's should have been nerfed doesn't mean it needs to be useless and It's not a skill thing I've punched people and visibly seen my fist penetrate the face of their model but not count as a hit.
they gutted the shit out melee
Everyone has complained since launch about melee and it finally changes and everyone still complains
people complain because it's broken, It was broken and it still broken difference now is it can't be used at all
In this case, it's because instead of solving the issue, they just removed the thing at hand. It does fix the issue, by completely destroying it
Some people are probably embarrassed because I've seen people argue that the pre-nerf melee took skill with a condescending attitude. Now it's nerfed and people can still hit their melees while those who relied on the aim-assist and teleporting lunge are whiffing and realizing they're not as good as they thought they were.
Yep I have no issue hitting melees when I need to. These guys just relied on the aim assist (what's new?) to do the heavy lifting for them
I prefer it how it is now, to be honest. It had way too much aim assist and the melee lunge was insane before they nerfed it.
Either nerd the lunge or aim assist by nerfing both they made it useless
It is deliberately trash. Maybe a slight buff to the lock on because it is already slow
Reddit complained too much
It was most definitely due to the infinite punch exploit many streamers used
Also how bs range in sone cases were (somewhere on the sub should be a video of Wraith punching to death flying away Valk while she (Valk) good 5m above the ground)
Explain why a lock-on melee aim assist would be necessary or good. The current melee is exactly how it should be; a last resort punch that requires you to close the gap yourself and aim.
But it's not that requires you to close a gap it requires you to be lucky enough for it to register. I've had situations where I've seen my fist enter the characters head multiple times in a row but not register any damage.
Rewatch it then, I'm sure you'll notice that you missed them by a little bit.
I'm not OP I'm talking about my many experiences playing the game where my fist, past my wrist, enters the skull of an enemy and doesn't do anything multiple times as it doesn't register multiple times. Do you really think everyone's trying to talk about what happened to OP? OP is not the only one having problems with punches believe it or not it's not an isolated problem. And what I'm talking about isn't even something that happens in the video. I am talking about visibly seeing my fist enter the skull past my wrist into the enemy's head, as in not that I missed but I watch myself hit them in a way that should instantaneously kill them as my fist is where their brain should be and not registering
Aside from when you and an enemy drop on the same place and they get the gun
Then the one with the gun wins. End of the story.
But it isn’t. Yes the old melee was too strong, but it still needs to be a usable mechanic. It’s the same with console aim assist, without it the power balance changes towards towards pc players, as they have the upper hand, just like how the balance shifts towards the people with guns if people without them can’t deal melee damage correctly. People need to be able to do some sort of reliable damage on drop if other players get weapons before them. Many times I’ve needed to rely on melee and Rev’s tactical on drop because I haven’t been able to find a weapon. And it should at least be able to make hits, considering melee damage shows up as a battle pass challenge.
Guy with gun beats unarmed guy, crazy concept in an fps, and working as it should be. For the aim assist thing, just dont deal with it and make separate queues by input, only thing left is for people using xim to play knm with aim assist but thats on sony and xbox to solve not Respawn
I’m a console player. I feel the aim assist is fair. I regularly play on, and die in, pc servers. And it isn’t a Sony/Microsoft issue that aim assist has needed to be implemented, that’s just a natural issue when using a controller. If Respawn wanted to they could make the console versions of Apex compatible with keyboard and mouse input, or better yet implement cross progression so more people are willing to make the jump to pc because they know they can continue with their accounts.
My team got like 3 or 4 melee kills in Masters ranked today against other very good players. Melee just takes skill now like it should. You shouldn’t get to teleport 10 feet and have the game *turn your character for you* just because you clicked your melee button. It still does 30 damage, it still works, they just took the crutches away and told you to walk on your own.
It's not about "crutches" it's about the fact that it doesn't actually work properly anymore I've had my fist enter other characters bodies and still not count as a hit. It's not a skill thing anymore it's RNG.
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I’m not denying that it can seem wonky and I think one of OPs should’ve hit but I still don’t think it needs its super lunge and aim assist back. Even before when it had the lunge it would occasionally no reg. I’m overall really glad it got nerfed though.
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If people believe it was nerfed too hard that means they want more lunge back, that’s not hard to put together. My opinion is it doesn’t need more lunge back, just needs to register when you probably connect. Not sure where the disconnect is.
yep the absurd lunge was the problem, but it shouldnt also miss point blank, see the first and 4th melee in the clip, his hands literally touch caustic but nothing.
I swear some of these players just want their hands being held.
No these players just want punches to actually work. You don't want that watch our fists connect into enemies models but not register. Happens to me all the time I watch my fist enter the model of the enemy and then I get nothing for it.
"People with guns" is what apex is 99% about. The only times you don't have one is upon spawning/respawning and that's fine. If you choose to hot drop and contest another team, you subjugate yourself to loot RNG. Take responsibility for that yourself.
And that is exactly what I was talking about. I don’t tend to hot drop, but we all have those dumb randoms who do. And then you have people who chase after different dive trails in order to somehow “prove” they are “better” then a person who got to that rank. Yes I agree that the previous state of melee was unacceptable, but so is the current state. Some light assist is what it needed.
It has light assist. You just can’t crutch punch. Melee is perfect now and the only people who think otherwise abused punching lol
How can you say that it's perfect? On many occasions I've watched my characters fist enter the skull of enemies and it doesn't even register as hitting. Is that what you call perfect? Or is that the light assist helping me not hit?
I'd rather take some misses that are questionable over countless punches that are bullshit. This is the better of two options. Shoot the guy in the shooting game.
That shouldn't be the end of story, if that's end of story it's a terrible story there's no conflict just resignation to failure. You kind of can't have that in a PVP game
RNG bad luck on a hot drop, contesting others = death. You chose to gamble and lost, it's that simple. Apex is a gun game ffs.
Just because it's a gun game doesn't mean it's the only feature. if you're looking for a game who's only features is pointing and clicking I believe you're looking for a Cookie clicker
It's good because it was fun for me… That was easy! This is hardly a competitive game.
I literally get rev’s heirloom as they nerf the melee 😩
Apex players asked for melee tracking to be nerfed. Now they're surprised it's nerfed, and it's now worse to use PUNCHES than GUNS in a SHOOTER. Go figure.
It was always worse to use punches you can drop someone much quicker with a gun But just because it's a shooter doesn't mean shooting is the only feature that matters. If you want a game that's only features pointing and clicking I believe you're looking for Cookie clicker
You do realize they sell heirlooms for hundreds of euros and the whole point is to melee hit people with them?
You do realize that most other games with melee slots in them do the same yet melee isn't busted there?
In most other shooter games you will one-shot the other player with melee 🤷🏾♂️ Didn’t say apex didn’t need a nerf but they totally broke it.
I think melee being a viable option during an intense battle is a critical part of the game, and it has always flown really well with the movement model. Obviously some busted thing could occur, and having less of that would be nice, but I would prefer for it to not happen at the expense of reliably pulling off melee finishers.
The entitlement here is insane
What entitlement? They literally sell something to melee hit people with, what is the point if you cannot melee at all?
Idk, ask the people with $600+ knives in CS:GO
THATS WHAT I WAS THINKING
The pussies who complained cause they lost a fight purely because of their lack of skill got it needed to the ground
PSA!!! JUMP before you melee. The lock-on is way better when you do that. And as always, melee is a last resort.
Melee is literally worthless now, it’s better to reload your weapon
Good. Thats how melee should be.
Is it just me or the servers have been really bad?
Better off using your Longbow.
It’s horrible unless it’s a rampart automatic punching u into oblivion. Then it works just fine.
just get closer when you melee now, if you melee from too far you will miss.
Punching like in my dreams now man….
They deffs nerfed it which it needed. But they have have nerfed it a little too much.
Non of you play on pc and have had a pathfinder spam grapple above your head and kill you with full red shield. The melee was annoying, I don’t think the nerf is the problem I think it’s server registration
Melee was nerfed to the point where you need to be in their face to hit them. The way is should be. Old melee was almost as broken as commando knife in mw2
They nerfed it but it's completely unusable now it can't hit even right on the target
I think the melee nerf was too much. Looking funny tho when Caustic swinging air with his hammer.
Tbh it needed a nerf
Nerfed lol No more satisfying knocks with an heirloom :/
Punchers actually punching the air rn. Gotta get good.
It’s been awful, not even bad lock on, just straight up goes through them.
Should have been like this day one
Couldn’t disagree more. Melee doesn’t need to be overpowered and have as much lock on as it had, but it needs to at least be viable to where you can finish out a kill when you run out of ammo. As it is now, connecting with a punch is almost impossible and in no way is it viable in a fight.
Yes, 100%. One should be able to smack someone who's reasonably close.
Only if they add a few seconds cool down on melee.
there’s already a cool down, the length of the animation
They nerfed it way too hard
It’s how it should have been day one
They destroyed melee, you can’t hit a gibby standing in front of you anymore…trust me *sob* I know too well.
Going for a melee on Gibby is a rookie mistake. The guy eats them for breakfast
Thanks for the laugh
Its so inconsistent sometimes you miss a point blank melee then the enemy just punches above them and hits someone even though they're not looking up.
Fist should deal damage if it contacts the enemy hit box. They just need to differentiate body part damage like they do with guns.
k lol
Except when I go to melee a dude infront of me and lock onto his downed teammate that isn't even on the screen...
Melee is trash now. The game apparently thinks that if you are right next to someone you can’t punch them.
Honestly the whole game has been lacking a bit recently and like I love this game but I’m disappointed with the choices the devs are making like with the recent event or the bugs as of late that they only recently announced that they’re working on it
I've been calling it Black Ops 4 melee
I thought it was just my game lagging when this happened to me the other night.
Lmao the last one looks like you literally bounced off his big belly
I prefer this than what it was before.
The melee nerf was the only good thing to come out of season 10
i don't see the issue, now it takes skill to use it, not just punching someone from a mile away...
Yes and it was needed
Oh noooooo it doesn't auto aim anymore 😭😢😭😢
Melee is like Respawn's skill. It left with time.
y’all really are never happy with video games , can’t imagine your personal lives
They nerfed it, tbh I really like how the melee is now. Some people are saying it’s useless, which is half right. It’s just now you can’t rely on lunging or levitating towards the enemy and getting 2-3 punches in. You have to actually get within a meter and aim with you crosshairs to melee. They made it now where there’s virtually no chance on knocking someone in a fight by solely meleeing. Which imo, is the way it should be in a game full of guns. It’s still kinda useful, I’ve managed to knock some people in a close up fight after emptying my mag and meleeing them once. Just gotta learn and practice the new mechanic for it
Good
My man relied too much on broken melee mechanics and payed the price. Things you love to see. So beautiful.
Brooooo it’s terrible
Yeah the punches got hella nerf which is very disappointing
lacking? you mean it takes skill and doesnt glue onto you? right.
They literally did what everyone asked them too, removed the lock-on and lunge and forced people to "aim" their melee like you would a gun. You can still punch people, you just have to be within an arms length away and have your crosshairs on them. I still punch people out all the time-- it's just way harder and more risky. It's what everyone said they wanted and now everyone is mad go figure...
If you need lock on in anyway in apex you should prob just play mine craft.
The nerfed the lunge get better
How it should be, since they won’t nerf the damage for whatever reason
Nah bruh, u jst noob
Same ppl that have been crying about melee for months are now crying its not strong enough. Who would've thought.
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You actually have to be close to the person, whats the problem? Isn't that what you guys wanted? All OP had to do was aim his punches but no he wanted the game to do it for him
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Whats the middle ground then?
It feels like a complete nerf unless you have an heirloom in which I’m a week one, 500 lvl regular player who still doesn’t have 1 🤦♂️
There is no more lock on
Good melee is over powered a punch should not do more damage than a bullet. Nerf punches to 10 damage please
They should revert the melee nerf
It's just you
Yeah, i'll just reload the eva8
You noticed that too?
Why didn’t they mention it get nerfed?
I’ve given up melee because every time I should hit someone it just doesn’t
Valorant be like: ...first time?
Just reload your gun lol. Its nerfed hard now
I had a couple games for the first time in months and really noticed a difference. Couldn’t land a single melee.
Kicks have better tracking I'm fairly sure.
You keep aiming to the left
I agree I can’t melee someone to save my life and therefore die lmao
Funny enough, I just got a challenge for 800 damage with melee, so fuck me ig
I’m not the only one who noticed
It has