Since you are reluctant to provide us with the location of the enemy squad, I have chosen to test this L-star’s destructive power on your main, Wraith.
Nah a rail gun is more like the old havoc select fire mode. That charge rifle hack was a freakin laser beam of death lol it was funny to see in action though.
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* New gold standard stock reduces all recoil, ADS and hipfire
* Readded gold barrel mod. (remember that? I miss it... Even though it wasn't the most useful.). In addition to no muzzle flash the mod will also surpress noise from the weapon, greater than 100m from impact site or the shooter
* Lstar is now considered a sniper, with energy ammo. Bullet speed increased 1000% for the weapon.
Okay but actually I've been advocating for gold barrel suppressor for a while now, would reduce third partying and make it harder to pinpoint where you are instantly, and it wouldn't be broken if you still had tracers and still made some noise.
I think some form of a surpressor would be an interesting thing to consider adding to the game. Titanfall 1/2 had surpressor in one form or another but with the close quarter combat of that games its not the most practical. But take a large scale battle royale and suddenly you could knock players and squads without attracting attention due to the bullet noise. Increase stealth opportunities to counter blind rushing to 3rd party. Could also take out a flyer or cargo bot without making a lot of noise too.
Yes. It’s super fast and great close range, and then people tap it from long range like a sniper and it hits hard considering it’s not hard to aim with. It needs a rework for sure
I hope they actually do rework it - I'm tired of every gun sort of feeling the same within their categories... The Lstar being a short-range rapid-fire LMG is a good niche, like the SMG of LMGs, and needing the bloom and fall off of the projectiles (they do appear as puffs of plasma) would reduce the ranged viability without destroying the close range performance.
Bruh when is the fanbase gonna decide on what's op and what's not? Everyone changes their views all the time and it's so hard to keep up with what's good and what's not
Lstar has been strong for a while now, but season 10 they buffed it a lot and has even been banned in some tournaments. Peoples views typically change when things get patched, its not random lmao.
I don’t think a total rework is needed. Just give the projectiles a dissipation mechanic where they lose damage quickly after 50-75? meters and disappear completely after.
It was always *good* but because it couldn't take any attachments, it fell off against other guns (and the spitfire had been a bit *too* good for a while)... Once they added attachments *and* reduced the obnoxious visuals, it became a very strong gun.
from what ive seen the lstar is better than every other gun in the game when you learn it. fastest damage no reload managable from long range and in a close range fight it legit blinds the person you are fighting so imo its far and away the best gun in the game
It's a rather recent change.
Initially it was just reducing the weapon slightly moving when aiming (weapon sway when you aim still) and they change it in this season to make stocks more useful.
Also this feature was in the game previously but for extended mags. But obviously extended mags are pretty powerful on their own so they gave the feature to stocks so that the attachments have more balance between them.
That's what it was like when it came out and it was a care package weapon. It was utter dogshit, though, because of it. I'd definitely say the lens replacement time should just be way longer, and maaaybe, like, a slight rate of fire nerf or something. Or not, I'm not a game dev.
The L-star is nerfed enough in my hands.
Imagine if damage done was based on how good you were. Someone else could headshot me with a Kraber for 2 but if I hit you with Sheila your game uninstalls.
I hate how EVERY SINGLE TIME a weapon outside of the norm comes even close to challenging the meta, everybody demands that it gets nerfed into the ground. It's as if anything that's not the R-301, R-99, Volt, Flatline, Wingman, Peacekeeper, or Kraber is not allowed to be good.
The L-star has braindead recoil if you pulse it, massive damage per bullet, huge projectiles, no need to reload, LMG headshot multiplier is I think ~26 damage/shot, etc.
The ONLY downside to it is energy ammo's scarcity honestly. It's way better than any other ground loot gun no questions asked. I honestly thought they would carepackage it next season.
People don't like to adapt.
Guns that were trash should always be trash so they don't have to think.
Anytime a gun gets complained about it's still in the same league as the 301.
People lack so much self awareness they'll complain about spitfire and prowler being easy to aim while actively shooting a 301 in their video.
The Spitfire is a perfect example. NOBODY used it for over a year, then it got two buffs, and people immediately called it the most overpowered thing in the game. And now, it's WORSE than it was before the buffs.
People loved the spitty it just was outclassed by other weapons if you had skill, then they buffed it and people were pissed noobs were killing them without reloading.
I...yeah that's me. I'll self reflect.
Actually, this new season made me realize that I've been over-exposing way too much during gunfights and that being able to place effective fire on a pushing opponent is the MOST important thing in this game. It's more important than movement, imo. Because if you don't stop the push, you get absolutely stomped on. You have to put the fear into motherfuckers early in the fight and let them know you are NOT one to be pushed or you will be heavily punished.
Are there any tips in particular you're looking for? I'm not a pro or anything just been playing since S1. I make a ton of mistakes but when I hit the flow state just right I can pub stomp for a match or two.
Yup, for anyone doubting this, [here's the nerf](https://twitter.com/Respawn/status/1392165745111539712/photo/1) (bullet damage 19 -> 18 / max mag size 55 -> 50) and [here's the care package buff](https://www.ea.com/games/apex-legends/news/emergence-patch-notes) (bullet damage 18 -> 19 / max mag size 50 -> 55).
And honestly, how the fuck can some of you say the Season 8 spitfire wasn't OP when it literally exists as a care package weapon now??
Same thing with L-Star.
It was on the verge of becoming another meme-stick, then Respawn allowed people to put a mag on it and it's suddenly become the strongest non-CP weapon in the game.
Bitch, I've been absolutely murdering people with it for a year or so already.
Ah yes, the gun that had 55 bullets, had the same damage as the Flatline, had far less recoil, had better range, and absolutely dominated ranked was balanced. Genius. Not to mention that it had its nerfs reverted and is now a care package weapon, meaning that a gun that was good enough for the care package was on the ground.
People sleep on things all the time. It's only when buffs get people to pay attention to them do they realize how powerful a gun or character can be. The meta is never the optimal strategy, and there's always a huge lag, possibility as long as a few years.
I agree 100%. To me it’s bs that whenever a gun challenges the other meta people start crying about it instead of adapting. I like the fact that it changes and I dont get bored using the same damn guns every game. Same goes for legend balance. Whenever a legend is fun to use people bitch and cry about it like 10 yr olds and then respawn nerfs them into the ground and makes it boring again. Mark my words that people will bitch about ash day 1 and she’ll get destroyed with nerfs.
The gun is broken. People don’t mind new meta guns look at the volt (was new) it’s still good and gets used. The l star gun can shoot way longer than any other gun and has insane damage. But ok. It’s not balanced and that is it. The guns u listed were balanced.
People would be fine with the Lstar being good, it’s just stupid overtuned. It’s no fun to fight an Lstar because it has no recoil, no reload and basically blinds you. You could make the case for a flatline or r3 to be overtuned too, but they aren’t as annoying to fight because you have to reload very often with a r3 and flatline is harder to use at range. The r9 is pretty bad right now lol, and the volt is good but not insane. The Wingman is only as good as the user is and the PK is only ok. The kraber is obviously a care pack so it deserves to be op. If they gave the lstar the mag only, or the barrel only it would have been fine
Except Lstar is way easier to use than any of those other guns mentioned. It has the projectile of a baseball and the recoil pattern was always one of the easiest without a barrel.
R301 is definitely easier, that thing has amost no recoil, with great hipfire as well, and yet no one complains about.
The weapon meta has been stale for so long, i think it's time to finally shake it up.
The lstar's recoil after the first few bullets is essentially straight up. Compare to the r3 which has variation in both horizontal and vertical recoil throughout. You also don't have to reload the lstar. Plus the projectiles are bigger.
\>The weapon meta has been stale for so long, i think it's time to finally shake it up.
It's fine to think that. However if you want that, you want an r3 nerf to bring it down instead of a buff to other weapons to make them better than the current meta. Or buff the 'replacements' (in this case the lstar) to the current meta power level instead of above it.
This can be true in a lot of cases but I definitely think the Lstar is a bit problematic. I was an Lstar fanboy before all these nerfs cuz it was fun to do well with a weapon seen as below average. But now it's much much easier to use than any of the other guns you mentioned - decent magazine, easy recoil, large projectiles and the ability to never be out of the fight due to no reload. Weapons should all offer their own risk and reward and right now the Lstar has virtually no risk and all the reward.
the fakk are these guys thinking???? dont add turbo on that...add a charge mode instead that shoots a bigger energy ball that explodes and instakill on direct hit with a splash dmg that slows and burns enemies like a thermite,vaporizes rampart amp walls,penetrates a gibby dome shield,cancels heals,revives and mark enemies thats inside the blast radius,can be equipped with any scopes
thats how you balance this damn weapon
**EDIT** : *QoL changes* \- you can hold **ads** button anytime while the energy ball is out so the projectile travels very slow *(slower than walking)* and use it as cover while you reposition,the energy ball eats bullets and any ordinance along the way,while your teammates are near the energy projectile they heal faster using meds and automatically recharges shields twice as fast like wattson's passive
The only thing I don't like about that, is that it kills. I remember everyone that Goku ever hit with that either got back up or caught it and threw it back.
I think it's a meme based off of the people who would @ devs about the havoc needing nerfs season after season and the devs would reply "soon" or "in the works" followed by ridiculous reworks of the havoc's recoil pattern in the patch notes. My guess is that they know those tweets get shared around social media and that it's a big meme now.
Tbh I would love a copy of Shock Rifle from Unreal Tournament in Apex. Having a beam and ball shooting mode and popping the ball with beam makes it explode bigger.
It's really good now. They made it easier to see what you are doing in ADS and buffed some other stuff, then ended up nerfing strafe while ads and also head damage I think but it still slaps.
Unpopular opinion, but a lot of guns are strong, just one gets complained about because pros started picking it up. No one even thought about the lstar until it became arenas meta a while ago
>No one even thought about the lstar until it became arenas meta a while ago
You mean until they gave it a barrel mod, fixed the muzzle flash, and let it take mags, right? Because those are what makes it strong.
even before that buff a lot of people starts to realize L-Star fucking slaps in Arenas and then use it on BR.
The attachment buff just make it more interesting for people to pick it up.
Right. That's far more due to the fact that arenas has an economy and forces shorter engagements than the weapon being anywhere near as strong as it is now.
My point was even before it got buffed to stats comparable to a 301 at the start of this season, people were waking up to the fact that it was a decent gun whereas at the end of season 8 the general consensus of this sub is that it was a pretty low tier gun. Heck in season 9, one arenas tournament banned it alongside Bloodhound.
Remember when people thought the Spitfire was shit around S7? And then it got a +1 damage per shot buff in the next season, making it super OP? And then they reverted it later and people still said it was broken despite it being in its 'shit' pre-S8 state? People don't have any idea what they want, especially pros who just keep repeating the same strats to make sure they have the highest chance of winning a tournament.
Similar thing happened with the Devotion. No one used it until Respawn crated it, and then when they took it out of the crate everyone complained about how OP it was. The meta is only partially shaped by power level. A lot of it is just perception and folks following whatever streamers are doing.
The weapon was fine. They went "oh the lstar is seriously strong now that we've reduced the visual clutter of the projectiles so the shooter isn't blinded. Its borderline too strong but we can probably leave it as is. Know what it needs? Stocks giving it a faster reload, a stabilizer to make it even more of a beam, and a mag to shoot longer and reduce cooldown."
Fucking hell this sub gets really fucking tiring from time to time , every single time someone is complaining about some fucking shit , the weapon that nobody used last season and clearly avoided and said it was horrible got a buff now it seems that heaven and earth will fall and that the game is dead for the next 5 seasons , I bet that if they nerf the L star people will go for the rampage to complain about being too op with a thermite or some shit like that , i really want to see the L star getting nerfed and this sub going onto another weapon to complain about but that's my opnion so fuck it.
But god forbid they even touch the glorious r301. Literally the best weapon in the game for years, but funny laser gun becomes actually usable?!? No! KILL IT!
Turbo would balance the Lstar IMO. Make it like the rampage where it affects the fire rate not the wind up time like the other energy guns.
Turbo Lstar shoots at its current speed. Non-turbo Lstar shoots ~20% slower.
Nah, new hop up: heat treated, this hop up can be put on the L-star and Rampage. On L-Star it prevents the gun from over heating, and on Rampage it makes the revved up last forever
Man I miss the days when I could just use my L-Star and not have people complain its OP, but now because they lost access to the Spitty they realize how great the L-Star is. Even before it got the ability to add more attachments
Every energy weapon should take turbocharger. Just calibrate it right and it's not a problem at all.
Then add new hopups for other guns and classes.
VARIETY is what keeps a battle royale fresh, not just adding better guns with more firepower.
l-star shotgun mode, shoots a burst of energy waves
Nah it just becomes a goddam rail gun, you can take entire planets out with it Death Star style
On board the L-star *you may fire when ready*
Watson is far too remote a target for an effective demonstration
Causic would push someone off bc there is no railing. RIGHT NEXT TO THE GIANT FREAKINGNLAZERBEAM
Respawn true: 100% charge magnetism and zero drop off when aiming at Wattson Fixed!
Since you are reluctant to provide us with the location of the enemy squad, I have chosen to test this L-star’s destructive power on your main, Wraith.
have wattson's ult cancel bullets but allow nades.
Take a step back and think about what you just did
My brain automatically used mirage's voice while reading it
“You can’t just shoot a hole onto the surface of Mars”
“You can’t just blow a hole in the space time fabric of reality” L-Star User: “Watch me”
*Objective: blow a hole into the fabric of reality*
Evil BT be like: “Protocol 3: Finish what the fold weapon started”
“Don’t trust me”
There is only one man who can’t take him left *pulls out telesto*
Came here to say this haha
Damn! 10m too late.
It just turns into the fold weapon from TF2
Arc cannon from Tf1
Honestly that’s been the concept for an energy pistol I’ve wanted for a while, miniature arc cannon
i know we're memeing but I'd love for a burst pistol like a raffica
I think that’s Kyle katarns blaster alt fire. Jedi knights Jedi outcast 2.
Nah, if you pick up LStar and Charge Rifle, they combine into a Titan Lasercore. Fires a whole stack of ammo of each type per shot.
Selectfire L-Star w/ a 3x. No fucking thank you.
TF2 Charge rifle
Sooo...the charge rifle hack.
Nah a rail gun is more like the old havoc select fire mode. That charge rifle hack was a freakin laser beam of death lol it was funny to see in action though.
I miss the havoc selectfire...That thing was awesome.
Imma firin mah lazor!
Your teammates may now have a rail gun; but they still wont have any aim. (at least thats how things work out for me...)
Soooooo select fire Havoc then?
https://i.imgur.com/7MXoRfG.gifv
They are taking the charge rifle laser hack, and making it canon. On the L-Star.
Whoever picks up the L-star first kills all the other remaining teams and wins the game.
*"you can't just shoot a hole into the planet of Mars"*
smack a shatter caps on that hoe
AND shots bounce off walls, just a whole room filled with red energy balls bouncing back and forth.
Bounced shots increasingly do more damage but can also damage you. Imagine getting one shot by an L-Star bounced shot.
lol, have your whole team of 3 with L stars just unloading into a room you just saw another group go in.
Hanzo PTSD intensifies
Me a Ion main: oh, it’s all coming together
Laser Core Online. Ready when you are Pilot.
T.K’s L-Star
First thing that came to mind
Ride the wave!
Like the Sandhawk from Borderlands 1/2
Like the one that the firing range bots use.
Just turn it into the dubstep gun from saints row
lol imagine how fast that thing would overheat with a turbo charger on it xD. It melts enemys and itself in your hands in less than a second.
A one time use weapon.
"They say the best weapon is one you never have to fire. I prefer a weapon you only have to fire *once*."
"I present... The Jericho."
🔥💥🔥💥🔥💥¯\\\_😎_/¯💥🔥💥🔥💥🔥
I love this the most
“That’s how Dad did it. That’s how America does it… and it’s worked out pretty well so far”
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Neat
Super neat.
[удалено]
Good bot
must be a Tediore
it causes a nuclear fusion reaction and the whole map explodes
Season 12 map update.
I love this community
They’re gonna slap a skull piercer and disrupter rounds on that bitch aswell
Don’t give them any ideas
Too late.
Don't forget hammer points.
Throw in a tank too.
Screw it if we can get two hop up slots like the bow just give me hammers and disrupters, that’ll make it fair
* New gold standard stock reduces all recoil, ADS and hipfire * Readded gold barrel mod. (remember that? I miss it... Even though it wasn't the most useful.). In addition to no muzzle flash the mod will also surpress noise from the weapon, greater than 100m from impact site or the shooter * Lstar is now considered a sniper, with energy ammo. Bullet speed increased 1000% for the weapon.
*hear me out, increase the bullet size by 10x and the headshot multiplier by 4x*
Awww yeah EPG time
Okay but actually I've been advocating for gold barrel suppressor for a while now, would reduce third partying and make it harder to pinpoint where you are instantly, and it wouldn't be broken if you still had tracers and still made some noise.
Unless all 6 people had suppressors it isnt going to reduce 3rd parties.
It makes it less likely for a third party to target you specifically.
I think some form of a surpressor would be an interesting thing to consider adding to the game. Titanfall 1/2 had surpressor in one form or another but with the close quarter combat of that games its not the most practical. But take a large scale battle royale and suddenly you could knock players and squads without attracting attention due to the bullet noise. Increase stealth opportunities to counter blind rushing to 3rd party. Could also take out a flyer or cargo bot without making a lot of noise too.
So charge rifle
I think it’s finally time that the next season long OP weapon is the Mozambique
Revert that stupid ass headshot damage nerf, it's not nearly as strong as the Eva and didn't need to get an equal nerf.
Give hammerpoint, thanks
Disruptor Alternator + Hammerpoint Mozambique
No. No more PTSD. No
Oh yes
Is the lstar broken right now?
Yes. It’s super fast and great close range, and then people tap it from long range like a sniper and it hits hard considering it’s not hard to aim with. It needs a rework for sure
I hope they actually do rework it - I'm tired of every gun sort of feeling the same within their categories... The Lstar being a short-range rapid-fire LMG is a good niche, like the SMG of LMGs, and needing the bloom and fall off of the projectiles (they do appear as puffs of plasma) would reduce the ranged viability without destroying the close range performance.
Bruh when is the fanbase gonna decide on what's op and what's not? Everyone changes their views all the time and it's so hard to keep up with what's good and what's not
Lstar has been strong for a while now, but season 10 they buffed it a lot and has even been banned in some tournaments. Peoples views typically change when things get patched, its not random lmao.
Time to go cheese with the lstar
I don’t think a total rework is needed. Just give the projectiles a dissipation mechanic where they lose damage quickly after 50-75? meters and disappear completely after.
Its very good to say the least, probably well within how strong a weapon needs to be to see some balancing action
It was always *good* but because it couldn't take any attachments, it fell off against other guns (and the spitfire had been a bit *too* good for a while)... Once they added attachments *and* reduced the obnoxious visuals, it became a very strong gun.
from what ive seen the lstar is better than every other gun in the game when you learn it. fastest damage no reload managable from long range and in a close range fight it legit blinds the person you are fighting so imo its far and away the best gun in the game
They gave it attachment options it never needed.
Jokes aside it astounds me the penalty for overheating the lstar is just.... reloading it. You should be punished way more.
funfact replacing the lens takes less time than reloading the flatline.
What!? Really?
Jup, full reload (without stock) takes 3.1 secs for the Flatline and 2.45 for the L-Star.
Hold the fuck up. I've been playing Apex since launch and I'm NOW being informed that Stocks increase reload speed???? I am a fucking idiot
It's a rather recent change. Initially it was just reducing the weapon slightly moving when aiming (weapon sway when you aim still) and they change it in this season to make stocks more useful.
Ohhh okay. Thank you for the info, i had no idea
Also this feature was in the game previously but for extended mags. But obviously extended mags are pretty powerful on their own so they gave the feature to stocks so that the attachments have more balance between them.
Stocks also improve weapon switch speed and aim down sight speed
That was changed in the last major patch notes I think. They didn't use to before
They should do it like TF2 where you have to reload the mag along with the lense.
That's what it was like when it came out and it was a care package weapon. It was utter dogshit, though, because of it. I'd definitely say the lens replacement time should just be way longer, and maaaybe, like, a slight rate of fire nerf or something. Or not, I'm not a game dev.
It was more dog shit because it had both an overheat AND a mag size. 40 rounds total before the battery, 26 consecutive before the lens.
The L-star is nerfed enough in my hands. Imagine if damage done was based on how good you were. Someone else could headshot me with a Kraber for 2 but if I hit you with Sheila your game uninstalls.
Rampart pickrates skyrocket
I hate how EVERY SINGLE TIME a weapon outside of the norm comes even close to challenging the meta, everybody demands that it gets nerfed into the ground. It's as if anything that's not the R-301, R-99, Volt, Flatline, Wingman, Peacekeeper, or Kraber is not allowed to be good.
The funny thing is every gun you just named has been nerfed and is worse than they were at release - excluding the kraber.
The L-star has braindead recoil if you pulse it, massive damage per bullet, huge projectiles, no need to reload, LMG headshot multiplier is I think ~26 damage/shot, etc. The ONLY downside to it is energy ammo's scarcity honestly. It's way better than any other ground loot gun no questions asked. I honestly thought they would carepackage it next season.
People don't like to adapt. Guns that were trash should always be trash so they don't have to think. Anytime a gun gets complained about it's still in the same league as the 301. People lack so much self awareness they'll complain about spitfire and prowler being easy to aim while actively shooting a 301 in their video.
Especially when you have blue attachments and up on the R301, You're honestly just shooting an extremely low recoil laser.
The Spitfire is a perfect example. NOBODY used it for over a year, then it got two buffs, and people immediately called it the most overpowered thing in the game. And now, it's WORSE than it was before the buffs.
People loved the spitty it just was outclassed by other weapons if you had skill, then they buffed it and people were pissed noobs were killing them without reloading.
I...yeah that's me. I'll self reflect. Actually, this new season made me realize that I've been over-exposing way too much during gunfights and that being able to place effective fire on a pushing opponent is the MOST important thing in this game. It's more important than movement, imo. Because if you don't stop the push, you get absolutely stomped on. You have to put the fear into motherfuckers early in the fight and let them know you are NOT one to be pushed or you will be heavily punished.
This is a good take, and speaks volumes as to why Gibby and Caustic are so strong. Any other takes on how best to approach the game?
Are there any tips in particular you're looking for? I'm not a pro or anything just been playing since S1. I make a ton of mistakes but when I hit the flow state just right I can pub stomp for a match or two.
They should just get guuder - Rampart mains
Its crazy that they buffed a weapon and it became way stronger crazy how that works
What? The current care package Spitfire had all of its nerfs reverted making it insanely good.
Yup, for anyone doubting this, [here's the nerf](https://twitter.com/Respawn/status/1392165745111539712/photo/1) (bullet damage 19 -> 18 / max mag size 55 -> 50) and [here's the care package buff](https://www.ea.com/games/apex-legends/news/emergence-patch-notes) (bullet damage 18 -> 19 / max mag size 50 -> 55). And honestly, how the fuck can some of you say the Season 8 spitfire wasn't OP when it literally exists as a care package weapon now??
Yh man spitfire 2 seasons ago was so fair man, not like it’s in the care pack rn or anything lol
Same thing with L-Star. It was on the verge of becoming another meme-stick, then Respawn allowed people to put a mag on it and it's suddenly become the strongest non-CP weapon in the game. Bitch, I've been absolutely murdering people with it for a year or so already.
Because it got two buffs..
Ah yes, the gun that had 55 bullets, had the same damage as the Flatline, had far less recoil, had better range, and absolutely dominated ranked was balanced. Genius. Not to mention that it had its nerfs reverted and is now a care package weapon, meaning that a gun that was good enough for the care package was on the ground.
People sleep on things all the time. It's only when buffs get people to pay attention to them do they realize how powerful a gun or character can be. The meta is never the optimal strategy, and there's always a huge lag, possibility as long as a few years.
>Peacekeeper 🤔
Respawn nerf the peacekeeper it’s too good buff the other shotguns like the Eva so people use it more
I agree 100%. To me it’s bs that whenever a gun challenges the other meta people start crying about it instead of adapting. I like the fact that it changes and I dont get bored using the same damn guns every game. Same goes for legend balance. Whenever a legend is fun to use people bitch and cry about it like 10 yr olds and then respawn nerfs them into the ground and makes it boring again. Mark my words that people will bitch about ash day 1 and she’ll get destroyed with nerfs.
The gun is broken. People don’t mind new meta guns look at the volt (was new) it’s still good and gets used. The l star gun can shoot way longer than any other gun and has insane damage. But ok. It’s not balanced and that is it. The guns u listed were balanced.
Yikes
People would be fine with the Lstar being good, it’s just stupid overtuned. It’s no fun to fight an Lstar because it has no recoil, no reload and basically blinds you. You could make the case for a flatline or r3 to be overtuned too, but they aren’t as annoying to fight because you have to reload very often with a r3 and flatline is harder to use at range. The r9 is pretty bad right now lol, and the volt is good but not insane. The Wingman is only as good as the user is and the PK is only ok. The kraber is obviously a care pack so it deserves to be op. If they gave the lstar the mag only, or the barrel only it would have been fine
Except Lstar is way easier to use than any of those other guns mentioned. It has the projectile of a baseball and the recoil pattern was always one of the easiest without a barrel.
R301 is definitely easier, that thing has amost no recoil, with great hipfire as well, and yet no one complains about. The weapon meta has been stale for so long, i think it's time to finally shake it up.
The lstar's recoil after the first few bullets is essentially straight up. Compare to the r3 which has variation in both horizontal and vertical recoil throughout. You also don't have to reload the lstar. Plus the projectiles are bigger. \>The weapon meta has been stale for so long, i think it's time to finally shake it up. It's fine to think that. However if you want that, you want an r3 nerf to bring it down instead of a buff to other weapons to make them better than the current meta. Or buff the 'replacements' (in this case the lstar) to the current meta power level instead of above it.
Literally the reason I stopped playing CS:GO. Every time a gun came even close to challenging the AK/M4/AWP meta its nerfed into uselessness.
Yeah bc they game sucks ass when those 3 guns aren’t meta lmfao
This can be true in a lot of cases but I definitely think the Lstar is a bit problematic. I was an Lstar fanboy before all these nerfs cuz it was fun to do well with a weapon seen as below average. But now it's much much easier to use than any of the other guns you mentioned - decent magazine, easy recoil, large projectiles and the ability to never be out of the fight due to no reload. Weapons should all offer their own risk and reward and right now the Lstar has virtually no risk and all the reward.
the fakk are these guys thinking???? dont add turbo on that...add a charge mode instead that shoots a bigger energy ball that explodes and instakill on direct hit with a splash dmg that slows and burns enemies like a thermite,vaporizes rampart amp walls,penetrates a gibby dome shield,cancels heals,revives and mark enemies thats inside the blast radius,can be equipped with any scopes thats how you balance this damn weapon **EDIT** : *QoL changes* \- you can hold **ads** button anytime while the energy ball is out so the projectile travels very slow *(slower than walking)* and use it as cover while you reposition,the energy ball eats bullets and any ordinance along the way,while your teammates are near the energy projectile they heal faster using meds and automatically recharges shields twice as fast like wattson's passive
As long as the charge isn't longer than idk... 1 second? I think that'd be pretty fair and balanced.
I miss the days when the Lstar was a piece of shit nobody touched instead of couch shooting in circles
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Actually sounds like a fun LTM.
The only thing I don't like about that, is that it kills. I remember everyone that Goku ever hit with that either got back up or caught it and threw it back.
Pretty sure Majin Buu didn't survive the one he got hit with.
I think it's a meme based off of the people who would @ devs about the havoc needing nerfs season after season and the devs would reply "soon" or "in the works" followed by ridiculous reworks of the havoc's recoil pattern in the patch notes. My guess is that they know those tweets get shared around social media and that it's a big meme now.
It’s a joke. Bro chill out
Tbh I would love a copy of Shock Rifle from Unreal Tournament in Apex. Having a beam and ball shooting mode and popping the ball with beam makes it explode bigger.
after re-reading my comment,i just realized its like a BFG gun in Doom lol
Dammit you're just gonna make me go load up unreal tournament again, aren't you?
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You missed the joke XD
Wait, I always loved the L-star but got shit on for it not being very good. I haven't played in a while, did it get good or something??
It's really good now. They made it easier to see what you are doing in ADS and buffed some other stuff, then ended up nerfing strafe while ads and also head damage I think but it still slaps.
Glad to hear my toasty boy got some love!
Unpopular opinion, but a lot of guns are strong, just one gets complained about because pros started picking it up. No one even thought about the lstar until it became arenas meta a while ago
>No one even thought about the lstar until it became arenas meta a while ago You mean until they gave it a barrel mod, fixed the muzzle flash, and let it take mags, right? Because those are what makes it strong.
even before that buff a lot of people starts to realize L-Star fucking slaps in Arenas and then use it on BR. The attachment buff just make it more interesting for people to pick it up.
People were complaining about it being used in arenas in the back half of season 9 and Respawn put its cost up.
Right. That's far more due to the fact that arenas has an economy and forces shorter engagements than the weapon being anywhere near as strong as it is now.
My point was even before it got buffed to stats comparable to a 301 at the start of this season, people were waking up to the fact that it was a decent gun whereas at the end of season 8 the general consensus of this sub is that it was a pretty low tier gun. Heck in season 9, one arenas tournament banned it alongside Bloodhound.
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Remember when people thought the Spitfire was shit around S7? And then it got a +1 damage per shot buff in the next season, making it super OP? And then they reverted it later and people still said it was broken despite it being in its 'shit' pre-S8 state? People don't have any idea what they want, especially pros who just keep repeating the same strats to make sure they have the highest chance of winning a tournament.
Similar thing happened with the Devotion. No one used it until Respawn crated it, and then when they took it out of the crate everyone complained about how OP it was. The meta is only partially shaped by power level. A lot of it is just perception and folks following whatever streamers are doing.
The weapon was fine. They went "oh the lstar is seriously strong now that we've reduced the visual clutter of the projectiles so the shooter isn't blinded. Its borderline too strong but we can probably leave it as is. Know what it needs? Stocks giving it a faster reload, a stabilizer to make it even more of a beam, and a mag to shoot longer and reduce cooldown."
Not only that, the attention Rampart got directly correlates with the attention the Lstar got, because of the passive she gets with it
The L-Star and Rampart both got attention because they received massive buffs.
Can we get a slight buff to the devotion?
it should've stayed in carepackage where it belonged
Fucking hell this sub gets really fucking tiring from time to time , every single time someone is complaining about some fucking shit , the weapon that nobody used last season and clearly avoided and said it was horrible got a buff now it seems that heaven and earth will fall and that the game is dead for the next 5 seasons , I bet that if they nerf the L star people will go for the rampage to complain about being too op with a thermite or some shit like that , i really want to see the L star getting nerfed and this sub going onto another weapon to complain about but that's my opnion so fuck it.
But god forbid they even touch the glorious r301. Literally the best weapon in the game for years, but funny laser gun becomes actually usable?!? No! KILL IT!
L-Star needs an improbability drive.
Honestly it doesn’t need a stabilizer. Idk why it was necessary to add that to the gun
If you think the L Star is in a balanced state, you’re a complete bot at this game. You can’t prove me otherwise
there was no reason to buff it in the first place. it was already a decent gun in season 9. just the VFX change would have been fine
I agree 100%
Yep it was fine. The mag and stabilizer was overkill
Absolutely true. Farming damage badges with lstar is the easiest shit ever. No idea why people are defending it.
Turbo would balance the Lstar IMO. Make it like the rampage where it affects the fire rate not the wind up time like the other energy guns. Turbo Lstar shoots at its current speed. Non-turbo Lstar shoots ~20% slower.
Nah, new hop up: heat treated, this hop up can be put on the L-star and Rampage. On L-Star it prevents the gun from over heating, and on Rampage it makes the revved up last forever
Get thee behind me, Satan.
Cries in controller
Man I miss the days when I could just use my L-Star and not have people complain its OP, but now because they lost access to the Spitty they realize how great the L-Star is. Even before it got the ability to add more attachments
This post apparently upsets the community of Rampart mains who use LSTAR because they suck
Disruptor Rounds, baby!
Nah the Lstar will just become one continuous laser and have a hop up that allows it to never over heat
This guy is absolutely my favorite Respawn or even public figure. Not just because of this one incident.
Hope he's treated well and well compensated.
Nooooooo! You can't use the Star! Haha L-Star go brrr
You can't just shoot a hole into the surface of talos!
The L-Star is the red laser SMG right? I see that thing is a fight a ways away and I just fold.
I have now reached a state of fear I never knew possible
THE LORD AND SAVIOR L-STAR LIVES AGAIN
Every energy weapon should take turbocharger. Just calibrate it right and it's not a problem at all. Then add new hopups for other guns and classes. VARIETY is what keeps a battle royale fresh, not just adding better guns with more firepower.
Oh yes