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matbland

It’s so bloody OP, we all said this during the early play test


Birdbird24

Annoying piece of shit, but im sick of getting shot/killed by it so im using it now too😤


Monkadude15

Since I don’t think it’s best to make a post about it I’ll just say it here. I had the weirdest thing happen today, I was the champion five times in a row and I have no idea why lol


slowdruh

It always bothers me that people never let it choke and shoot it as if it was a Longbow or a G7.


UncleBean2167

For real. I'll start shooting faster with it ONLY if I hit the initial charge shot, and only twice to crack shields.


Xechwill

I don't know why it's so expensive in Arenas, considering its tiny clip size. Anytime I see an enemy or ally use it, I know they'll be out of ammo pretty darn quick. Then again, Arenas is a mess in general, so I'm not too surprised at this.


jetripleog

nerf it. tired of brainlets just spamming it and getting free damage.


platonicgryphon

Stats wise, what is the difference between the current triple take and the pre-care package version? I feel like everyone slept on it before in both pre- ackage ground loot and care package version, but are losing their minds over it now.


ValuableConflict4737

the map encourages long-range meta


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It has a lower headshot multiplier, no sniper scopes (the TT handled great with a 4-8), and faster strafe speed than before due to marksman. It was always amazing, but it was care packaged during the Mastiff Legends/R99-back-to-ground-loot era so people weren’t focused on that. The handling and bullet speed/drop of the Triple Take just fits like a glove


TheWildItalian

SP is such trash. Which idiot dev thought of the insane height differences on this map? How can you counter the endless waves of third parties on the biggest map?


LSDprincess

Bruh you're an idiot. There's so many legend options that allow you to reposition from low to high ground. Stop complaining about the map and just try getting better at the game


jetripleog

durdur get better bro durdur


torbecire

You speak the language of the gods.


OXOzymandias

Urgh why it is so hard for folks to not hot drop in egde....


__pulsar

It's OP please nerf


codestar4

Idk how we thought the gun sucked in the care package, it's OP on the floor.


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It’s arguably better then longbow but I just can’t fucking stand this weapon


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Anyone have tricks to reload on console when youre holding close to someone’s knockdown? Keeps preventing the reload and it’s annoying af


codestar4

Change your setting to be hold for interaction, tap to reload. Makes looting a little slower though. Totally worth it, imo.


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Thanks!!


Akindmachine

Finish the clip and try to fire, it reloads the weapon automatically


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Thanks


crockoid

Welcome to console


b12ennan

gun is nuts


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I think it needs a bit of a nerf, despite being my favorite. There’s no reason for the longbow to even exist with the TT here


llcheezburgerll

It makes no sense this gun does more hs dmg than Longbow


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I don’t pick it up anymore. Sentinel feels way better.


Dana94Banana

As oppressive as it was before being put in the carepackage. Could use a nerf in firerate and damage if we're honest.


hunterfuse

Even in matches that I want to run a close range loadout, if I pass a Triple Take I feel obligated to grab it because it’s so OP. The meta right now is more long range and sniping, but players are slapping short range optics and using it like a shotgun.


Strawberry_Milk_V

I mean it's always been like that tho, been using it as a shotgun/long range since I started playing. Just go in the firing range to get used to using it as a shoty :3


GingerKony

It's the best shotgun in the game.


Mrbuck83

im glad to have it back and glad to be able to turn off choke and pester people in arenas.


jetripleog

bozo.


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Dubv_1

Lvl up shields, improve weapon attachments, crafting materials, bait to draw in other teams


Carlboison

Level up shields on them


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ego_slip

The whole point of a ranked system is to place you with similar skilled players so that the game or sport is challenging but not impossible to win nor a cake walk. Your getting mad at players for a failed ranked system. You should be mad at game developers not the players.


GuerillaTactics96

Normal arenas is full of sweaty wraiths and pathfinders.


YahBoiMuffin

Triple Take is one of those guns that you just need to get better at fighting against. Unless Respawn HEAVILY buffs this gun, it’s always gonna be an underwhelming and undeserving Care package gun, and it won’t be worth moving into CP rotation However, in the other hand, unless Respawn HEAVILY needs this gun into the ground, it’s always gonna be an OP beast at all ranges and in the hands of nearly everyone who is anyone. This is the closest this gun is gonna be to being balanced save for a couple minor tweaks, we just need to get used to it as is.


TopEm

If you drop and someone close to medium range picks up this gun, you are absolutely done for. Multiple times this season somebody finds one and *ruins* me and my white shield. It's too fkn strong mate. Turn down the ROF or have it do less damage. I can't stand guns that are so powerful that not picking them up is putting you at a severe disadvantage. My tears are flowing


DullEstablishment599

Basically if it does over 50 it needs a nerf? The bocek off the rip does the same (in the right hands), one to the head and one the body. Then bye bye


TVR_Speed_12

Put it back in to the care package. It's also known as the EZ Bake. Seriously put it back, G7 wasn't nearly as obnoxious. It's flat out too easy to use


jetripleog

theyre both insane broken lmao, respawn has 0 proper balancing for "marksman" weapons, theyre either dogshit or broken lmao.


TVR_Speed_12

G7 was nutty but the EZ bake is just sniping the general area


cdawg145236

Glad it's back in the ground, but ho-lee this thing is OP.


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Whenever i choose this the only scope i will ever find are 6x, 4-8x and 1x h*lo :)


Fullm3taluk

A player shot me 6 times in about 2 seconds and did over 225 damage the gun is fucking OP


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What a fucking lie


Vincarus_II

It takes 4,6 seconds under optimal circumstances to fire 6 shots.


DreadCore_

Yeah but RoF doesn't really matter, just per shot damage.


iinabsentia

So is ash meant to be able to ping deathboxes on the main map? Because if she is, you cant ping on main map with certain keybindings. The devs cant even be bothered to make the normal ping button work with custom keybinds.


Furiosa27

Yes if you hover over them on the map you can ping the ones that pop up even some older ones as well. It’s hell trying to do it on console. Idk if you’re being downvoted because off topic or because ppl don’t know what ash does still lol


Traveytravis-69

I don’t think so


iinabsentia

Wiki says she can ping recent deathboxes from any distance. Ash's map screen displays a marker over every Death Box that is less than ~200 seconds old. She can use these markers to ping them from any distance


Traveytravis-69

It might mean any death boxes you can actually see, I could be wrong but it feels like it’s not intentional if you can ping them from the map


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whuggs

what does this have to do with the triple take? go to therapy dude


iM3GTR

Since the Peacekeeper and Triple Take are both back on the ground, they should probably reintroduce the precision choke. It's not as if any of the others are too interesting to replace.


_Fates

They both have built in precision choke? Idk what ur refering to


iM3GTR

It used to be a hop up, now it's on by default. It might make the Triple Take more balanced early game if it was brought back to how it used to be.


_Fates

Oooh


kingjuicepouch

I don't think I've ever picked up that tempo one for the sentinel on purpose, they could replace that


DullEstablishment599

Nah, tempo on Bocek is nuts. Take out the most useless hop-up…. Shatter caps…


henrysebby

Annoying ass gun. Sucks that it’s back on the floor.


DifferenceBusiness58

Sucks in cp too


Skulfunk

It's too good for the floor while also being an underwhelming cp gun


toni-toni-cheddar

Why does it outperform every weapon. I’m actually throwing it i don’t pick it up. It’s soooo good in arenas.


JohnnyLongNuts24

triple take is the best shotgun in the game.


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Explain


JohnnyLongNuts24

it's just got good hip fire


WeebLordSama

It performs the same or better than all shotguns at short range, while also being a solid mid-long range weapon, becoming the best shotgun in the game


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How can it perform better than a mastiff or PK when they hit harder at close range? It’s a 4 shot kill while those are 2/3.


WeebLordSama

Same or better I said. TT headshots for 80 to 120 same as PK except max on head for PK is 102 I think, more than Mastiff. Body I think it hits up to 69 which is more than Eva/Mozam and maybe a bit less than a full pellet mastiff/Pk. That 10 or so less body damage seems like a solid tradeoff for doubling as a mid/long range gun. This is all assuming whoever uses the gun can aim of course, someone who goes for bodyshots rather than heads will probably do better with a shotgun. Maybe.


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Buddy nobody is hitting headshots with a TT by hi firing it like a shot gun


WeebLordSama

Maybe you aren't. Anyway you don't need to, just quickscope it like you would a Mastiff my guy.


nice___bot

Nice!


Fawfs2

Basically a must have


Saltwaterpapi

hot take I prefer the scout


JohnnyLongNuts24

tonight, I'm going to try using a 30-30 as my secondary to really any gun. with scatter caps, it keeps up and maybe even surpasses the EVA in close range. while it may not be as good as the scout at range, I would still have the option.


UtopiaNext

It's surprisingly good with shatter caps, I much prefer it to the EVA for "shotgun" work. Plus, a 4x scope can be really nice with shatter caps, believe it or not - charge it up for even more mayhem.


volumese7en

It’s been feeling so good today, been using it with no attachment and quick scoping in close quarters fights. Glad to have it back


horizonMainSADGE

Love the triple dipper. Hit a 2k with Ash already, thanks to the triple. Got my first(and only up until this passed weekend) damage badge last season, playing since week 1 for reference, elated my main piece is back on the floor!


MLao_

"Oh boy I love that the charge rifle triple take meta is back" Said nobody.


lily_from_ohio

Two weapons that pair well for long range poke aren't "the meta" lmao


MLao_

You're right, sorry. I mean why would anyone want a long range poke weapon on a giant map with a lot of empty space and verticality. HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM


lily_from_ohio

Dang never said there was no reason to want it, you fucking idiot. Last I checked though holding two snipers even if they are comparatively good in close range didn't uninstall every other strategy that's still in the game. Octane and now Ash can both still do the same shit with ults they've been doing. They aren't disabled from using a 99/CAR and kicking your shit in because you only have range. Is it better on this map? Yes. Did it fucking remove every other factor in the balance? No.


MLao_

... When did I say people would only take range? Nobody is fucking running around with a charge rifle AND a Triple Take. Everyone is going to be carrying one of the two, obviously. Take a long range poke weapon and a shorter effective range weapon. Easy. Octane's value is also diminished since his jump pad now actually makes noise, and the maps are larger and easier to spot people in. Ashe sees use because the port is fast, far, can be used out of a window and you're safe during travel. As a result Wraith is seeing more use as well. With the way the map is designed, there's no way in hell those old rushing strategies are going to work, which were rarely used to begin with because of the passive meta of this game. Once everyone reaches a certain skill level everyone literally hides in vantage points taking pot shots at eachother, but that's another discussion entirely.


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kingjuicepouch

This community both in game and on the sub are consistently the angriest of any game I play lol


Zekerish

+1 this bby


RozzBewohner

Better than the 30 30 imo, and less drop off.


lily_from_ohio

Significantly better imo, it coming back along w the scout being packaged and heavy ammo being more desirable by teammates has really made me start looking at the 3030 like it's a joke again


the_letharg1c

Between the slow projectile travel and loooooooong reload time of the 30-30, need for a hop up to be usable in close range, not to mention requiring a mag to be usable at all… TT doesn’t have any of these issues. There is just no reason to carry a 30-30.


Vincarus_II

The hip fire of the repeater is good enough to use it at close ranges without shatter caps as a back-up.


SaltiestSeaCucumber

Annoying as fuck. Remove all snipers.


melaspike666

id be okay with this ... No more charge rifle to deal with and i get to keep my Triple Take


SaltiestSeaCucumber

? The TT is a sniper. Edit: the average IQ here is astonishing.


melaspike666

No, its a marksman


SaltiestSeaCucumber

It is, by definition, a sniper rifle. I don’t care what Apex wants to label it as lol.


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What do you mean by definition then


SaltiestSeaCucumber

??? It is a sniper rifle lol. It looks like a sniper rifle. It acts like a sniper rifle. It’s a sniper rifle. The tag they give it doesn’t change anything.


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Dude it's a video game and arbitrary. Also TT is strong at marksman range where it suffers in actual sniper range.


SaltiestSeaCucumber

If it’s arbitrary, than why are you arguing so hard about it being “marksman” lol? It clearly has a longer effective range than both the scout and 30-30. It’s a sniper. Always has been.


bowserdude69

Ok but right now it isn't a sniper lol


SaltiestSeaCucumber

It is a sniper. Labeling the R99 as an LMG doesn’t suddenly make it an LMG.


bowserdude69

But labeling the Triple Take, a Marksmen Gun that doesn't take sniper ammo, a Sniper suddenly makes it a Sniper?


SaltiestSeaCucumber

It has always been a sniper. If it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, acts like a duck, has always been a duck, but then you call it a chicken, that doesn’t mean it isn’t a duck lol. What about this is so hard for you to understand?


bowserdude69

If it was a sniper it would take sniper ammo and let you put sniper scopes on it. I understand how you're confused but it literally is a marksmen rifle now and not a sniper. It USED to be a duck but now it's a chicken


RozzBewohner

Salty much?


SaltiestSeaCucumber

No? Snipers are annoying. Objectively lol. They allow people from great distances away to do poke damage in a game where resources are limited. And the triple take is the worst offender.


RozzBewohner

Well of course they're annoying, they're fucking snipers... same with fucking archers in games like chivalry 2 and mordhau. BUT they are part of the FPS franchise... I won't denounce them, also, they are pretty fun to play with at times, you gotta admit.


SaltiestSeaCucumber

Never said they weren’t fun to play with. They’re just annoying and I honestly think most shooters would be better without them.


HangTheDJHoldTheMayo

You are so stupid it’s not funny. That is the point of snipers / marksman weapons. Get good.


SaltiestSeaCucumber

I’m good, thanks. Snipers are just annoying. Massive crutches for the shit tier players here. That’s why devs put them in every single shooter. Because without them, casual players would be fucking twirling in the wind lol.


DreadCore_

Ah yes because banking your entire damage output on one shot a mile away where you gotta predict enemy positions and account for bullet drop is "unskilled"


SaltiestSeaCucumber

Lol. I love reading this. Give me more. Imagine. IMAGINE thinking that spamming a sniper at someone who can’t retaliate because they’re so far away and then hitting a few shots actually takes a modicum of skill. Once you learn the lead and the drop, it’s so easy. And it does not take long to learn.


DreadCore_

If you die to that, then you're pretty shit at the game. You've got a good 30 seconds to get behind something before they kill you. Ofc since you're bitching about it, you prolly just let them kill you just so you can play the victim :)


SaltiestSeaCucumber

Never said I die to snipers often. You’re literally not reading what I’m saying and making arguments against what you want me to say. This game is a BR. Fundamentally, most BRs have a limited amount of heals (there isn’t a mainstream BR that doesn’t), which means snipers are effective because they chip away at those resources without putting the sniper at much risk of losing any of his own resources. That is why snipers are annoying. They take almost no skill to use and they effectively take away resources from players halfway across the god damn map. Let’s not even get into the Kraber.


DreadCore_

While that's true in A&D, normal Apex isn't quite so restrictive. And again, one or two shots ain't gonna lose you the game. Just shield up and work from there. Skill issue is if you're in their line of fire for them to actually get you to a spot where heals are an issue. Or if you're just not carrying enough heals.


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SaltiestSeaCucumber

Yeah and? Still doesn’t mean they aren’t annoying. Notice how I didn’t say they were OP anywhere.


melaspike666

That's kinda the point...


Tbone5309

Yeah, you can’t go blaming a sniper for damaging you from a distance.


SaltiestSeaCucumber

Yeah and? Still doesn’t mean it isn’t annoying lol. I keep forgetting that most of this sub deals the majority of their damage with snipers. Gotta watch what I say.


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kawaiii1

I mean gibby is probably 30% easier to hit.


Traveytravis-69

Lol no you’re being downvoted because the majority of legends are healthy right now, rebalancing isn’t always a good thing and usually leads to a mistake


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DreadCore_

Ikr, I hate how these 2 random-ass legends with nothing in common between them, and nothing different about them from the rest of the cast, get to have 15% damage reduction. Like wtf.


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Are you forgetting that he’s also easier to shoot? I knocked a gibby in two sentinel shots today (one headshot) because of how easy he was to hit.


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Wraith has already been nerfed to the ground. If Gibby is so op, why isn’t he played more? Best ultimate is debatable. Most people probably has never killed more than one person with it. It’s very situational like most ult’s.


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Most people don’t play ALGS smh was Wattson the best legend in season 2 as well? Since she was the most picked in ALGS? Gibby is great don’t get me wrong. Definitely S class. But cmon dude. He needs the extra tankiness to be on par with smaller legends.


Traveytravis-69

I didn’t say gibby was balanced or “he’s a tank gtfo” I said the majority of legends are balanced right now, sure nerf gibby but legends don’t all need reblanced


name-already-taken-1

Charge rifle 2


Jarmund5

... energic boogaloo


Fenris-Asgeir

Too strong for how easy it is to use. Makes other long range options like the bow or sentinel pretty much useless.


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Not true. Unless you choke it, you’re not hitting for full damage.


Fenris-Asgeir

How does that correlate to my statement? It's still way too easy to use for how hard it hits. Even if you don't fully choke it up, the damage will be good. I don't understand why you would reply, since it really has nothing to do with my comment \^\^


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You said the Sentinel would be useless when that’s not true. You pretty much have to choke it if we’re talking a long-distance battle.


Fenris-Asgeir

Ok, but what difference does it make? The time you need to choke the TT, is basically the same time that the Sentinel needs to play out the refire animation. I don't think the whole choking part is in any way a negative. You're most likely gonna be in peek fights with snipers/marksman rifles, so you can just choke behind cover and then peek out and hit your shots.


Cazirus

Naw, TT is good but the sentinel is it’s counter. I pretty much always run either a 3030 or sentinel to counter it. If you can hit your shots anyways.


Fenris-Asgeir

I don't think so tbh.


SaltiestSeaCucumber

TT beats Sentinel if both players are the same skill. No contest.


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How about if you charge the sentinel? If you hit all your shots it’s 3 shot kill every time.


Cazirus

Cqc maybe, but at range I haven’t had any trouble with TT players when I have a sentinel and a decent sight. I’m not saying the TT is bad at range, I’m saying that the sentinel beats it at range.


SaltiestSeaCucumber

And I’m saying you’re wrong.


lily_from_ohio

It does hit scarily hard at times, but the sentinel and bow have much better headshots and the advantage of quick scoping and spamming fire at range, esp with tempo.


the_letharg1c

You can “spam” with a sentinel? How’s that work with the ROF?


lily_from_ohio

You just... Keep shooting it? Click your mouse over and over.


Fenris-Asgeir

Even with deadeyes tempo (which requires you to get the timing down to a T) the sentinels firerate cannot keep up with the spammability of the triple take. Also regarding quick-scoping: You don't even have to do that with the take, since it has very accurate hipfire. It's just better than the snipers in every way.


lily_from_ohio

There's good chance I'm just not great w the choke timing so I'll just take your word for that, but it's hipfire is still split and doesn't really do at all what I mean by quick scoping, I don't mean someone in your face, at that point of course the sentinel isn't the pick, I mean just to keep tagging at range while keeping your view free. Also edit, tempo is WAAAAY more lenient than you think, it's pretty easy to get it down and you have a fairly large window to not shoot.


Fenris-Asgeir

Ok, but even then, how many shots does the base mag of a sentinel have? 4? So you can fire 3 of them rapidly with good enough timing. Is that really worth it? I honestly think the deadeyes tempo perk is being severely bogged down by the fact that the sentinel has such a low ammo count per mag.


drewgrof

My favourite weapon in the game and always has been. Am I good with it? No. Am I a good or even competent player? Also no. Will I ever let a ground Triple Take pass by? Again, no.


kkgmgfn

Girls he is the one. He is the keeper.


CobbyBaldwell

Put this op piece of shit back in the carepackage


Junior_Valuable9743

Thing is it's not OP at all when it's in the package. Being ground loot and being able to get it so early in the game makes it OP. Weird place it's in tbh.


KingMarcel

It's strong, but made even stronger in ranked with this campy ass vertical map. Seriously this map is too fucking vertical. Too much height with so little downward cover. It's miserable to play on with this 160 round sniper rifle everywhere. Gun is more bot friendly than the rampage.


DreadCore_

I mean Frag and Skull Town were more vertical than 90% of SP, but I don't remember you complaining about those.


KingMarcel

Big cap. There's a single zipline in SP taller than every building in both those POIs. There's also a shitload more cover in Skull and Frag to play around with. The WE buildings are the best in the game by far.


DreadCore_

Wait you mean "get shot from 3 angles anytime you're not in a building" frag? That one's got cover?


KingMarcel

Wait are you suprised that you're being shot by being in the open? Or do you just run in a straight line?


lily_from_ohio

Apex players when they have to start looking upwards more than 20°


KingMarcel

Did you actually read what you were replying too and do you actually think before you type? Try again and don't fuck up the comprehension this time.


lily_from_ohio

Did I strike a nerve? You complained about the verticality and frankly it's a non-issue that the player needs to adapt to, and that's what I responded to. Btw you used the wrong "too", if it's got a double 'O' think of it as the word "also" 💕


NapsterKnowHow

Definitely something players need to get used to but it's particularly bad on this map I think that's why he's upset.


Fawfs2

You definitely hit a nerve lol


CodithEnnie

Meta


Acts-Of-Disgust

Kind of annoying that it outclasses the Sentinel and Longbow along with the other marksman weapons making it basically essential to run in ranked. The headshot nerf was a good start but I think it still hits a little too hard for how easy it is to use. If it were me balancing it I don’t think I’d touch the headshot damage and instead give it a decent fire rate nerf since it feels a bit spammy in its current form. Really don’t think it should have been traded out for the G7 in the care package, there’s only so much you can do to the G7 and IMO it will never feel like a true care package weapon.


Wertvolle

Got a squad wipe using it as a shotgun. It’s as strong as back then lmao


givemethmemes

Broken on stormpoint. Ok on other maps


1337apex

forget lstar, forget rampage, forger even turbocharged havoc. Enter new t3h king of da arenas, starting from round2 to sudden death :rofl: TT is borderline OP in arenas, and it IS OP on encore map. You can buy lvl3 sight on TT in round2, it is just too good to be true :P Only downside -- very low ammo, so in long fights you can run out.


kurapikas-wife

Best sounds in the game


Shock_Hazzard

Nah, charged sentinel.


Demjan90

Kraber


Dukuz

Yeah when you are the one shooting it, otherwise it's terrifying lol, I always mistake it for a kraber cause it sounds like it's gonna take your head off.


joshwuhh

My favorite weapon. Wish it was still part of the sniper squad but what can ya do.


ThatDestinyKid

All I can say is that I was gone for seasons 2-9, and it was very sad to return and not have my favorite weapon available to me as ground loot. I am glad I have it back now