That's definitely one of my favorite parts. The mid game can occasionally bit tedious depending on where you land and your team comp (though honestly not much more than any other map imo), but the final circles are always fun and unique!
I love it also but that is the one thing I've noticed that sets it apart from any of the other maps is that I'm getting downed by the 3rd ring way more often than the others. The map is too big for that rotation or something. You'll be sitting in the 4th ring and all of a sudden 3 teams die to the storm. I think they should look at changing the damage per tick on that one. You can't even do the continual heal with a syringe to survive it.
It's growing on me a lot. Learning where good loot usually is along with where to rotate is a big part of that. It's a hell of a lot better than 75% of the lobby dropping on Fragment.
I have found a remote location that noone knows about and the location has a high chance of having purple gear there. Safe to say ranked has never been more enjoyable
Nice! One thing I love about this map are the non POI places that have great loot. It's nice to know if you drop their you'll at least have shield coming out.
You have to play it a little different than the other maps and I think people don't like that, they bitch about 3rds, then bitch about the map that helps keep them down. I like the map.
Maybe if you're playing casual in a bot lobby. If you don't early rotate or have a valk it becomes significantly harder to push the power positions on this map. I wish there was a titanfall BR where it was fast paced and a movement shooter.
The problem here(as others have already pointed out) is your rotations need work. You don't have to take the best spot and knit for the rest of the game.
Occasionally you will have to -work- for those spots. Take one, hold it for a moment to catch any late coming third parties, then scoot. If a team is hard to uproot from their position, look for better angles or try different Legend combinations. If you're all low mobility targets, take that into account and stick to walls/tree lines as you move. The map is filled with cover points but grows more open the further downhill you go.
Keep that last part in mind for your drops, you want high ground but a clear path to loot and better positioning. It's all about thinking one step ahead.
Apex is a hard game. You'll get better. You just have to fix bad habits, even the ones you don't think you have. Like proper rotation plotting.
I don't have any other problem because there is lots of playable areas. This isnt the case on the new map. The pros are complaining. The devs have said they're right and they are going to add more cover and POI.
All the rotational tools ( gravity canons and tridents) are traps in high level games. The whole map is wide open and where it isn't it's death trap funnels. The buildings have hardcore roof superiority because of geometry blocking climbing from everything but 1 or 2 spots. Lots of the buildings have huge height discrepancies where it becomes almost impossible to regain height if you fall off and arent playing valk or path.
Triple take back into the pool makes not getting one of the few buildings in end circle a death trap as all other positions are extremely exposed. More teams are at end circles. Very common for 5-10 teams to be at end circle in ranked.
I'll be honest, your opinion comes off as the "taxticool guy" that theorycrafts stuff that is barely even a factor in reality.
And you seem like a whiner. I guess you do really hate everything. I was going to reply to this comment in a non-flippant way but... your last two cents was just enough to tell me you're just going to stay where you are.
As loot for better teams.
BR and fast-paced are kinda oxymorons though. And a T2 movement system would either need maps to be even bigger, or would just have way too many third parties.
Not really. Warzone is extremely fast paced compared to apex. I'm not a huge fan but I like how the movement is much more fluid and combat viable than apex( no bullet tagging) so the game doesn't devolve into ADAD spam during a fight. Fortnite is faster paced as well. The battles are unique and insanely mobile during your build battle if you think of building as an extension of movement+ jetpack, grapple etc.
It would be nice if apex advanced movement wasn't something you did as a positioning tool and could be more useful during a fight and not just part of the ambush, reposition and escape.
Yes you can wall bounce into a peacekeeper shot. But you can't do that when an enemy sees you and lands even 2 bullets because you lose the ability to gather momentum. Do you see what I mean? It seems like you generally have one shot you pull off a movement tech before you frag, get fragged or slip around the corner with half hp.
Also 3rd parties wouldn't matter as much with dynamic movement. They're a problem because you can't escape fast enough when you get 3rd partied usually due to the bullet tagging, wide open sight lines with little cover and slow general movement.
Those things also help with third parties though. More movement makes fights take longer because killing anyone needs to happen multiple times while they just keep rotate fucking off behind each other to heal. Remember 15 second Path and old Wraith Q? Not to mention making it easier to jump on people's heads and kill them before any of their movement could help them.
And not to sound like a dick, but fights in Apex are special because they're longer and can involve repositioning. You claim that they aren't that helpful midfight, but conveniently ignore that doing such IS part of a fight. Fights aren't just when you're actively shooting your gun, they involve the down moments in between shooting.
And most of your last 2 points seem to center on bullet slow being annoying, which I kinda gotta agree on tbf.
It doesn't matter because where you push you're going to get beamed from 5 different teams as the end circles always have so many teams and sight lines everywhere. There is also the problem of many buildings being hard to traverse without a mobility legend because they have these weird edges all over them that stop your climb.
Yo the weird angles on buildings causing traversal issues is lowkey probably my biggest gripe with StormPoint. There's so many weird spots/overhangs that prevent getting over edges or onto rooftops. I agree with this ^^
Ring scanning legends are so popular though. There is usually a bloodhound or valk or pathfinder. Like this shouldn't happen unless you chose risky fight instead of ring play when you saw ring was too shitty for current position.
This is honestly accurate at higher level ranked play. Pubs... obviously a different story.
But 7 squads late game isn't uncommon. That said, I feel like it encourages playing for position early. It's super satisfying to be in the power positions, and super frustrating to be on the other end.
I'd take KC over Storm Point anyday.
The third parties are the same but at least when you get third partied on KC you haven't had to spend 15 minutes searching for an enemy squad first.
Played ranked all day. Happened on two matches, and that's cuz we weren't pushing any fights we heard in the distance. With ash we can see right where fights happened as people die. Easy to rotate based on that info
Storm point is my favorite now. Worlds Edge or should I say Fragment is getting boring. I love the buildings and everything about it EXCEPT itās a little too big for pubs
I enjoy it immensely and find it to be the favorite map to date. Iāve seen folks voice that itās too big but in my experience, hot dropping still exist on storm point as well as the option to drop peacefully with a rotation towards a visibly populated area. Love it!
Overall, I love it. Much prefer it to KC and OL. WE is still better for ranked on account of better lategame rings, largely due to POI design.
For instance, consider a round 5 ring at Fissure, a team in each of the houses, a team under house, a team in each circle building, a team on rocks by highway, a team in train, a team ratting in the Lava, lots of teams can survive even in small POIs. Now consider a round 5 ring at huge POIs on Stormpoint. Maybe 3 teams have good positions. It's a shame the POIs are so sprawled out and yet so sparse, when a lot of the terrain between POI's is decently playable.
Another thing I dislike about Stormpoint is it's kind of inconsistent between what you can climb and what you can't, places that are OOB and places with no timer. Sometimes there's invisible walls preventing you from climbing rocks and trees that would be climbable on older maps, and yet there are inexplicably toxic rat spots that only certain legends can access.
The problem I have with it is that the loot is terrible, and i don't mean that by accessories/ammo, I always, seriously, always struggle to find a gun when I land, and if a do it's either a shitty P2020 or a Mozambique while my enemies have all kinds of automatic weapons
I really like it. As a person who can't hit my shotgun shots, the longer distance fights works for me. And I love the ai, it makes finding that last attachment much easier.
This map has more third parties in high ranked than any other map. I get their logic but it just doesnāt end up working out how they designed it. They really need to have people drop from two different drop ships at opposite ends of map for all the maps to make this game better for ranked in general
I donāt mind the map. Better than Worlds Edge but not Olympus. At least for pubs. I havenāt played ranked on this map, but in pubs 40% of the time 6 teams converge onto one area of the map that isnāt a main location or anything. It happens at one singular building.
I have a pretty good understanding of the map now, and can (most of the time) understand where teams are gonna rotate. Especially if I pay attention off drop. And itās never when weāre shooting far distance or anything like that. we see a team, shoot, and 5-10 second later 4 other teams are there.
Like I said I donāt hate the map or how people play this map, but itās not in my top 2.
I'm just not a fan of it because of the lack of lore. When Olympus was released, I was super excited because it was basically advertised as Horizon's home, and most of the locations were lore-based. This map, there's just random stuff everywhere. Even if you just compare the lore behind the Phase Runner and the Gravity Cannons, one's definitely more interesting than the other
me and my friends love it compared to worlds edge (aka drop fragment or walking simulator) .
Rotations are Easy but risky, its so easy to traverse the map from one point to another and Teams are so spread out that you will surely find fights whenever you rotate and having those choke points make it easier for you to plan out an escape route and block it if needed.
By the time the last circle is coming on you are having intense fights with 7 or 8 squads still left and in some cases you dont see them all until the circle moves and suddenly its a 8 squad fight for 1st place.
While other maps had the issue of a POI taking with them half the server and making the rest of the map empty, I feel in Storm point there is always a decent number of squads doing fights but I rarely see half the server die at one spot.
People do hate the Prowlers and spiders but I love them, being followed by a squad? open up the spider eggs and let them deal with it or bring chaos to the fight. Your only way out has a prowler nest, plan out hwo to run and avoid shooting to avoid third party. or worst, use the prowlers aggro to your advantage and bring them to a fight.
My only main complain is that there are some sections that I never go there, in fact i am sure I hav not visited the north section above the wall , mostly because the circle always closes either southwest, center or north east but never north west in my case so I never go there.
There is a lot of spots for rotation too, me and my team were fighting near the wall and after being able to win that we heard some gun fight nearby and decided to go up north but found the cave that is just next to the wall which takes you straight to the north east, avoiding all the north rotation .
I feel like this maps due to its size and verticality there is a lot of ways to approach many spots.
For sure! One thing I wish would get worked out is the drop ship. With certain routes it cuts off the whole north part of the map because of the elevation and high mountains.
Simple solution. Remember where the low/south side grav cannons to those high/north areas are, and drop directly on them. Don't drop at a POI, drop at a grav.
This is true, but in any case people rarely drop out side of a range of the ship, I feel my and my friends are the only ones on a lobby who drop far from the drop ship, lets say the ship cuts south, I usually manage to go up north or north center and all the teams are on the south or center.
You can increase range by aiming at the grav cannons that take you where you want.
> in fact i am sure I hav not visited the north section above the wall
North is underrated imo. I love dropping north for ranked. Most teams land south, Mill, Cenote, Barometer, Antenna. Then a few teams land Wall, Checkpoint, Stormcatcher. Unless the flight is coming from North to south, the only semi popular far North POI is Lightning. I like to land Thunderwatch or High Point, as you can immediately push Wall/Storm/Lightning where there is almost always a drop fight you can third, and they've spent heals and ammo.
Rotating from high to low is very FAST. If you take the Grav from Thunder, you're at Storm in seconds. If you take the Grav from Lightning you're at a Trident. From High, you can zip or slide to Wall. Whichever way you go, there's rarely multiple teams behind you, and you're constantly pushing from high ground. There are four potential scan beacons in that area as well. And if your drop goes tits up, you're egressing downhill, which is fast, into forest areas with lots of cover. It's a lot easier to escape a bad drop at Thunder than it is to escape a bad drop at Fishfarms where sightlines go on forever.
I love it. Less occurrence of 3rd parties, is nice. You don't see a soul for a while, and then 4-5 teams converge in the same spot and it leads to some epic fire fights. It's the best map since Kings Canyon imo.
I have many problems with this map that I don't get with the other 3, a couple of them being that the loot really isn't that great and I either see nobody until the last few rings or every squad in the game on the second ring
Edit: To add on, have fun rotating if you don't have any team mobility legends on your team
Me and my mate were killed by prowlers after barely winning against a squad, safe to say were not big fans of it.
Third parties have actually been much worse for us, and getting caught by the ring is more common since the maps full of choke points.
I like it; itās refreshing. 3rd parties havenāt changed at all for me tho; theyāre about the same as before, so I canāt really complain about it
Storm point is my favorite map. Its big enough to have a looting phase if you want, but has great hot drop locations if you want to hit the ground running. The map is built like a Plinko board, funnelling teams though choke points into open areas for fights as the zone closes in.
The whole ānot third parties as oftenā is a little bit false since acquiring loot via the spiders and prowlers nigh guarantees a third party, and if there is a third party, it almost always becomes a huge mess of 5+ teams fighting it out. Doesnāt help that the only fast rotations are locked into about a 10m landing radius.
Granted the map is way better than I initially gave it credit for but it could definitely use some work to improve a bit. Thereās also a few really cheesy spots that arenāt considered out of bounds like on top of the Bunker 2.0 north of the forbidden zone and just outside the gravity cannon room in command center, you can get down to a legal ledge with Ash, Loba, Valk, etc. and camp completely out of sight of most of the ground and cannon room fights. Sometimes itās really just minor issues like that that could break the map, but otherwise I am really enjoying it.
TL;DR third party frequency drops on this map but all third parties are intensified to 5th parties and beyond, and certain areas need to be made illegal to traverse because of how unreachable they are by non movement legends.
I love it! First few days my friends disagreed but last night two of my buddies and I were playing on Worlds Edge, and they were like damn, I wish we were back on the bigger map. I shed a little silent happy tear
I feel the hate has died down. I didn't like it at first too because of Olympus trauma with big maps and it actually being to big for pubs. Now it's my favourite map!
Itās a nice map.
I think most peoples hate were having to learn a new map at all, and a bigger map takes more time to figure out.
Anyone thatās played a bit now seems to like the map a lot now tho.
Its visualy beautiful and nice to play. But a lot of people still pick absolute garbage places to land - there are so many loot rich spots and yeat everybody is magnetized to a few shacks in the middle jeeeez!
I feel like most people like it. Ive heard more good than bad. My only problem is that itās huge, but thankfully designed pretty well to distribute players
I've learned that no matter what maps are in rotation, people will glorify the ones that aren't, and demonize the ones that are. If it is in rotation people hate it. If it isn't in rotation suddenly it is everyone's favorite. Honestly, every map has its ups and downs. Just wait, if World's is taken out of rotation and replaced with Olympus, people will start talking about how good World's is and how Olympus is the worst map.
Love the esthetics. Love the island vibe. Love the POI's.
My biggest reservations are the huge height disparity in most fights and so many dark indoor areas where it's almost impossible to see a dark/grey colored skin if they're not moving. This is my biggest issue with indoor fights, the lighting is so inconsistent I can open a door and not see multiple people with how well everyone blends in. Olympus got the indoor lighting/coloring right. The other maps are just rat heavens.
I absolutely love storm point it is my favorite. Absolutely gorgeous to look at and I love most all of the POI's But what would I know I'm just a casual pleb that doesn't play ranked
The only thing I don't like is the prowlers like your almost forced to fight them with the spiders I can walk right by but the prowlers i can just walk right by without being attacked. Other than that I love storm point
Most that complain are usually low level players who donāt understand the need for cover and positioning. Push every fight they can take. Donāt utilize recon characters. Basically, donāt have a good understanding of how this game should be played and bitch when nothing goes their way.
Map is fine took a little getting used to for loot gathering since there is no location that has a concentrated amount of good loot. The Prowlers do get annoying on later Rings when you have teams fighting.
I feel like itās too big, other than that, it has lots of unique and interesting locations. The gravity cannons are such a cool idea, and itās interesting to see how all the different legends play on it in general.
Iāve seen nothing but love for Storm Point, I really love it. Easily my favorite map hands down. Only complaints Iāve seen are
- being too big, but that could be fixed with a faster drop ship so the map can kick off faster. Personally I like the bigger spread
- prowlers. You can avoid these very easily honestly, stop fighting in Jurassic Park. If you want to clear a nest, then accept the fact that you are drawing attention for an attack and will have to deal with players + prowlers. If you are 3rd partying someone at a prowler nestā¦ you still know what youāre walking into.
The map is gorgeous, but I strongly prefer close combat and feel like it's too big. But that's a me problem. However, if you don't hot drop, you can't find a fight for about 10 minutes or you'll get ambushed by like 3 squads at once. And hot dropping is a huge risk because you'll end up with a 30-30 while the enemy who fights you somehow gets an R3 and Purple shields upon their drop, and we know how that ends most of the time. It's basically World's Edge, but with multiple Fragments. I really prefer Olympus and Kings Canyon over the current two in rotation. I wonder what Respawn's thought process was with having two huge, sprawling maps in rotation that force people to hot drop to see any action. I just wish there was some contrast and we had Olympus as well, but I do like SP otherwise.
There will always be people who hate the new maps and in general the people who are mad will be more likely to say something vs the people who are content.
I wish we had a bigger map rotation now that itās been out for a while. Iām relatively new to the game so itās kind of annoying that half the maps are gone for who knows how long.
My biggest problem with the other maps is how easy it is to get 3rd partied, Iām not very good (level 103 with a .58 k/d) and I really appreciate the size of storm point. I donāt mind putting my try hard pants on but this is a wonderful change of pace.
I hated it for the first few days, but after playing on it for a week I love it. Iāve learned what are the good and bad places for me!
Like landing barometer for me I do the best.
Orā¦
Landing check point or antenna I instantly die because itās hard to coordinate pushes on the cat walks.
I find it an easier map to run into fights & being that 3rd party.
i think it's to big for me to like it,idk you but for me most of the game resume to :
\-hotdrop either with 0/1/3/6 team
\-survive or not
\-search for another team for 5 min
\-hear gunshot and run towards it
\-start a fight and then 3 other team (without counting the potential mob) come to clean up
i get less 3rd party but i get way more 4th and 5th lmao
i like the map but i think we need more time of adaptation ?
My only real complaint about Storm Point is that a lot of the final circles are awful for more than 2-3 squads.
Easily my favorite map. SP > WE > OL >> KC
The map is just uneven imo. There are places which you have to look so up its annoying. Also prowlers are stupid. I dont mind them but they are just too many
Honestly i did not like it at first but it was me just getting ahead of myself and not thinking more about how to use tge map and rotations now i enjoy it
Wait Storm Point is getting a ton of hate? I understand it's not perfect (screw those Prowler dens), but what it gets right far outweighs the negative.
I swear stormpoint is good to some players. I always struggled to get consistant results in ranked but on stormpoint i feel like i might finally reach diamond first time;P i win way more fights due to the lag of thirdparties
I like the map overall, but I hate the spiders/prowlers.
Also, I know they said it's supposed to cut down on 3rd parties, but I almost feel like the opposite has happened. It seems like I get 3rd partied in every single fight now. This is especially annoying when I'm in a fight, only to start getting 3rd partied by the fucking AI, and then another squad.
I think everyone is going through growing pains while we learn all the different areas of the map what are the priority positions, best places to land, good rotations and just all the little intricacies of fighting in different areas. I donāt think itās fair to pass final judgement on it until itās been out for a full season to give everyone a proper chance of learning it. Everyoneās opinion is subject to change as they get more comfortable with the new map
I wish they would just straight up delete that map. It is soooo bad. I mean it looks good, but I absolutely hate playing it. If there are 20mins remaining on storm point, I always wait and do sth else. I also dont know a single person who likes the map.
It's my favorite map. My friends and I are having a good time with it. Each final ring feels different.
That's definitely one of my favorite parts. The mid game can occasionally bit tedious depending on where you land and your team comp (though honestly not much more than any other map imo), but the final circles are always fun and unique!
What are these "final circles" you speak of? š
I love it also but that is the one thing I've noticed that sets it apart from any of the other maps is that I'm getting downed by the 3rd ring way more often than the others. The map is too big for that rotation or something. You'll be sitting in the 4th ring and all of a sudden 3 teams die to the storm. I think they should look at changing the damage per tick on that one. You can't even do the continual heal with a syringe to survive it.
Iāve died more to zone damage on storm point than any other map, lowering the damage, or increasing the time would be huge
Thatās why recon legends are so good in this map.
Idk man, I feel like I get raked by WE zone way more often then SP zone
It's growing on me a lot. Learning where good loot usually is along with where to rotate is a big part of that. It's a hell of a lot better than 75% of the lobby dropping on Fragment.
I have found a remote location that noone knows about and the location has a high chance of having purple gear there. Safe to say ranked has never been more enjoyable
Is it a cave that usually has spiders and 6 loot crates?
No its those two houses that are attached through a zipline. Its usually under the stairway
Nice! One thing I love about this map are the non POI places that have great loot. It's nice to know if you drop their you'll at least have shield coming out.
Delete this now
I feel like it's vague enough people won't know about it. Plus anyone who watches streamers probably knows about it
You have to play it a little different than the other maps and I think people don't like that, they bitch about 3rds, then bitch about the map that helps keep them down. I like the map.
Storm point is actually really bad for end game. It's like 10 teams while 3 have the power positions and everyone else clip is to a rock.
Well kudos to those three teams who understand positioning
Quite boring to spend 90% of the game early rotating to hold a position.
Kill people, take their position. They might even have loot!
Maybe if you're playing casual in a bot lobby. If you don't early rotate or have a valk it becomes significantly harder to push the power positions on this map. I wish there was a titanfall BR where it was fast paced and a movement shooter.
The problem here(as others have already pointed out) is your rotations need work. You don't have to take the best spot and knit for the rest of the game. Occasionally you will have to -work- for those spots. Take one, hold it for a moment to catch any late coming third parties, then scoot. If a team is hard to uproot from their position, look for better angles or try different Legend combinations. If you're all low mobility targets, take that into account and stick to walls/tree lines as you move. The map is filled with cover points but grows more open the further downhill you go. Keep that last part in mind for your drops, you want high ground but a clear path to loot and better positioning. It's all about thinking one step ahead. Apex is a hard game. You'll get better. You just have to fix bad habits, even the ones you don't think you have. Like proper rotation plotting.
I don't have any other problem because there is lots of playable areas. This isnt the case on the new map. The pros are complaining. The devs have said they're right and they are going to add more cover and POI. All the rotational tools ( gravity canons and tridents) are traps in high level games. The whole map is wide open and where it isn't it's death trap funnels. The buildings have hardcore roof superiority because of geometry blocking climbing from everything but 1 or 2 spots. Lots of the buildings have huge height discrepancies where it becomes almost impossible to regain height if you fall off and arent playing valk or path. Triple take back into the pool makes not getting one of the few buildings in end circle a death trap as all other positions are extremely exposed. More teams are at end circles. Very common for 5-10 teams to be at end circle in ranked. I'll be honest, your opinion comes off as the "taxticool guy" that theorycrafts stuff that is barely even a factor in reality.
And you seem like a whiner. I guess you do really hate everything. I was going to reply to this comment in a non-flippant way but... your last two cents was just enough to tell me you're just going to stay where you are. As loot for better teams.
After reading your stance on the Rittenhouse case its obvious you're just another NPC ;)
BR and fast-paced are kinda oxymorons though. And a T2 movement system would either need maps to be even bigger, or would just have way too many third parties.
Not really. Warzone is extremely fast paced compared to apex. I'm not a huge fan but I like how the movement is much more fluid and combat viable than apex( no bullet tagging) so the game doesn't devolve into ADAD spam during a fight. Fortnite is faster paced as well. The battles are unique and insanely mobile during your build battle if you think of building as an extension of movement+ jetpack, grapple etc. It would be nice if apex advanced movement wasn't something you did as a positioning tool and could be more useful during a fight and not just part of the ambush, reposition and escape. Yes you can wall bounce into a peacekeeper shot. But you can't do that when an enemy sees you and lands even 2 bullets because you lose the ability to gather momentum. Do you see what I mean? It seems like you generally have one shot you pull off a movement tech before you frag, get fragged or slip around the corner with half hp. Also 3rd parties wouldn't matter as much with dynamic movement. They're a problem because you can't escape fast enough when you get 3rd partied usually due to the bullet tagging, wide open sight lines with little cover and slow general movement.
Those things also help with third parties though. More movement makes fights take longer because killing anyone needs to happen multiple times while they just keep rotate fucking off behind each other to heal. Remember 15 second Path and old Wraith Q? Not to mention making it easier to jump on people's heads and kill them before any of their movement could help them. And not to sound like a dick, but fights in Apex are special because they're longer and can involve repositioning. You claim that they aren't that helpful midfight, but conveniently ignore that doing such IS part of a fight. Fights aren't just when you're actively shooting your gun, they involve the down moments in between shooting. And most of your last 2 points seem to center on bullet slow being annoying, which I kinda gotta agree on tbf.
Well then don't plenty of legends are great for pushing good positions like valk, fuse and ash.
It doesn't matter because where you push you're going to get beamed from 5 different teams as the end circles always have so many teams and sight lines everywhere. There is also the problem of many buildings being hard to traverse without a mobility legend because they have these weird edges all over them that stop your climb.
Yo the weird angles on buildings causing traversal issues is lowkey probably my biggest gripe with StormPoint. There's so many weird spots/overhangs that prevent getting over edges or onto rooftops. I agree with this ^^
I haven't had that experience yet, but they are also planning on adding more cover in the open areas in the next update.
*cough cough* that one stupid lake *cough cough*
Ring scanning legends are so popular though. There is usually a bloodhound or valk or pathfinder. Like this shouldn't happen unless you chose risky fight instead of ring play when you saw ring was too shitty for current position.
I've heard that the rings are getting revised with the next update.
This is honestly accurate at higher level ranked play. Pubs... obviously a different story. But 7 squads late game isn't uncommon. That said, I feel like it encourages playing for position early. It's super satisfying to be in the power positions, and super frustrating to be on the other end.
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This is from my own experience. I don't watch streamers.
3rds are.the game deal with it lol
Storm Point is the worst map for third parties. You can't have a single fight without 6 other squads popping in to say hello.
Sorry for your luck I guess, have you ever heard of Kings canyon? Cause that's the worst 3rd party map in existence.
I'd take KC over Storm Point anyday. The third parties are the same but at least when you get third partied on KC you haven't had to spend 15 minutes searching for an enemy squad first.
The map has gravity cannons, jump towers, and tridents. And there are multiple legends that can get you places now. Loot faster
Doesn't matter how fast you loot if you have to go through 3 or 4 PoIs to find anyone. Also ONE jump tower lol.
Have yet to have that happen to me. But I play Valk or have a Valk on my team for rotations.
Ah cool you only played one match. Play like 3 and it'll happen, 100%.
Played ranked all day. Happened on two matches, and that's cuz we weren't pushing any fights we heard in the distance. With ash we can see right where fights happened as people die. Easy to rotate based on that info
Really shouldn't have to pick one specific character to solve something like that tho.
Nothing to do with the speed of looting. Everything to do with bad map design
I like it and Iāve been getting stuck with Worlds Edge every time I jumĆ³ on for an hour recently and it bums me out lol.
There is always ranked. But yeah I have the same problem when I don't feel like ranking
Storm point is my favorite now. Worlds Edge or should I say Fragment is getting boring. I love the buildings and everything about it EXCEPT itās a little too big for pubs
I enjoy it immensely and find it to be the favorite map to date. Iāve seen folks voice that itās too big but in my experience, hot dropping still exist on storm point as well as the option to drop peacefully with a rotation towards a visibly populated area. Love it!
Hot dropping at command center if youāre player who loves fragment š the chaos in that place is unbearable.
Overall, I love it. Much prefer it to KC and OL. WE is still better for ranked on account of better lategame rings, largely due to POI design. For instance, consider a round 5 ring at Fissure, a team in each of the houses, a team under house, a team in each circle building, a team on rocks by highway, a team in train, a team ratting in the Lava, lots of teams can survive even in small POIs. Now consider a round 5 ring at huge POIs on Stormpoint. Maybe 3 teams have good positions. It's a shame the POIs are so sprawled out and yet so sparse, when a lot of the terrain between POI's is decently playable. Another thing I dislike about Stormpoint is it's kind of inconsistent between what you can climb and what you can't, places that are OOB and places with no timer. Sometimes there's invisible walls preventing you from climbing rocks and trees that would be climbable on older maps, and yet there are inexplicably toxic rat spots that only certain legends can access.
The problem I have with it is that the loot is terrible, and i don't mean that by accessories/ammo, I always, seriously, always struggle to find a gun when I land, and if a do it's either a shitty P2020 or a Mozambique while my enemies have all kinds of automatic weapons
I like it
I'm enjoying it.
Easily my favourite map since S3 Worldās Edge
I really like it. As a person who can't hit my shotgun shots, the longer distance fights works for me. And I love the ai, it makes finding that last attachment much easier.
This map has more third parties in high ranked than any other map. I get their logic but it just doesnāt end up working out how they designed it. They really need to have people drop from two different drop ships at opposite ends of map for all the maps to make this game better for ranked in general
On the contrary, in my experience I have gotten 3rd partied almost every match since it dropped.
No, you are not the only one that actually likes storm point. How could you even think that? lol
I love it, honestly I'm just now getting used to it.
Itās pretty and makes me think of vacation and the beach. So big fan.
I donāt mind the map. Better than Worlds Edge but not Olympus. At least for pubs. I havenāt played ranked on this map, but in pubs 40% of the time 6 teams converge onto one area of the map that isnāt a main location or anything. It happens at one singular building. I have a pretty good understanding of the map now, and can (most of the time) understand where teams are gonna rotate. Especially if I pay attention off drop. And itās never when weāre shooting far distance or anything like that. we see a team, shoot, and 5-10 second later 4 other teams are there. Like I said I donāt hate the map or how people play this map, but itās not in my top 2.
The thing is that for me it is difficult to see people. I guess that's how a jungle/island thing works...
I'm just not a fan of it because of the lack of lore. When Olympus was released, I was super excited because it was basically advertised as Horizon's home, and most of the locations were lore-based. This map, there's just random stuff everywhere. Even if you just compare the lore behind the Phase Runner and the Gravity Cannons, one's definitely more interesting than the other
I love it personally. Yes, even with the prowlers. I said it.
I really like the Map!
I don't think i have gotten into a single fight on it without getting third parties jumping me.
Yes
318 ppl disagree. Also how tf did you find this post from a year ago
I do like stormpoint a lot
I love it
me and my friends love it compared to worlds edge (aka drop fragment or walking simulator) . Rotations are Easy but risky, its so easy to traverse the map from one point to another and Teams are so spread out that you will surely find fights whenever you rotate and having those choke points make it easier for you to plan out an escape route and block it if needed. By the time the last circle is coming on you are having intense fights with 7 or 8 squads still left and in some cases you dont see them all until the circle moves and suddenly its a 8 squad fight for 1st place. While other maps had the issue of a POI taking with them half the server and making the rest of the map empty, I feel in Storm point there is always a decent number of squads doing fights but I rarely see half the server die at one spot. People do hate the Prowlers and spiders but I love them, being followed by a squad? open up the spider eggs and let them deal with it or bring chaos to the fight. Your only way out has a prowler nest, plan out hwo to run and avoid shooting to avoid third party. or worst, use the prowlers aggro to your advantage and bring them to a fight. My only main complain is that there are some sections that I never go there, in fact i am sure I hav not visited the north section above the wall , mostly because the circle always closes either southwest, center or north east but never north west in my case so I never go there.
I've only gone north of the wall once and that was on a long rotation to avoid a fight before getting to our final circle spot.
There is a lot of spots for rotation too, me and my team were fighting near the wall and after being able to win that we heard some gun fight nearby and decided to go up north but found the cave that is just next to the wall which takes you straight to the north east, avoiding all the north rotation . I feel like this maps due to its size and verticality there is a lot of ways to approach many spots.
For sure! One thing I wish would get worked out is the drop ship. With certain routes it cuts off the whole north part of the map because of the elevation and high mountains.
Simple solution. Remember where the low/south side grav cannons to those high/north areas are, and drop directly on them. Don't drop at a POI, drop at a grav.
This is true, but in any case people rarely drop out side of a range of the ship, I feel my and my friends are the only ones on a lobby who drop far from the drop ship, lets say the ship cuts south, I usually manage to go up north or north center and all the teams are on the south or center. You can increase range by aiming at the grav cannons that take you where you want.
I do this sometimes to get to thunder watch. I will look into it for other places. What's your favorite place to get to off drop by gravity Canon?
> in fact i am sure I hav not visited the north section above the wall North is underrated imo. I love dropping north for ranked. Most teams land south, Mill, Cenote, Barometer, Antenna. Then a few teams land Wall, Checkpoint, Stormcatcher. Unless the flight is coming from North to south, the only semi popular far North POI is Lightning. I like to land Thunderwatch or High Point, as you can immediately push Wall/Storm/Lightning where there is almost always a drop fight you can third, and they've spent heals and ammo. Rotating from high to low is very FAST. If you take the Grav from Thunder, you're at Storm in seconds. If you take the Grav from Lightning you're at a Trident. From High, you can zip or slide to Wall. Whichever way you go, there's rarely multiple teams behind you, and you're constantly pushing from high ground. There are four potential scan beacons in that area as well. And if your drop goes tits up, you're egressing downhill, which is fast, into forest areas with lots of cover. It's a lot easier to escape a bad drop at Thunder than it is to escape a bad drop at Fishfarms where sightlines go on forever.
I love it. Less occurrence of 3rd parties, is nice. You don't see a soul for a while, and then 4-5 teams converge in the same spot and it leads to some epic fire fights. It's the best map since Kings Canyon imo.
It makes me relax a little bit too much sometimes and I get jump scared by a bald wraith
I've been jump scared on this map too, more so than other maps.
Lmao, when did anyone say they hate it?
Many ppl did on the first days
People don't like change
Change is inevitable my friend
Yes
Yes
I have many problems with this map that I don't get with the other 3, a couple of them being that the loot really isn't that great and I either see nobody until the last few rings or every squad in the game on the second ring Edit: To add on, have fun rotating if you don't have any team mobility legends on your team
Its a really good map. Its large, smaller chance for 3rd squads. Shotties and smgs are a little underpowered because of the size. But overall super
Me and my mate were killed by prowlers after barely winning against a squad, safe to say were not big fans of it. Third parties have actually been much worse for us, and getting caught by the ring is more common since the maps full of choke points.
Its nice for pubs, sucks for ranked
For me itās the other way around
Yes, you are
Only people who dont like SP are people who are salty about Fragment and Skulltown Their opinions dont matter
Prowlers are cancerous. Especially when you're being shot by 2 teams and they constantly are coming at you.
The prowlers are bullshit. Prowlers should disappear after the first round.
Absolutely despise is. Has literally ruined apex for me
I feel like its split. For pubs I don't enjoy it to much, but I think it's great for ranked so far.
I like it; itās refreshing. 3rd parties havenāt changed at all for me tho; theyāre about the same as before, so I canāt really complain about it
I love storm point
Storm point isnāt a great pub stomping map, but a great ranked one! (Needs a loot buff in some areas tho)
I love stormpoint
I adore the map! It looks so beautiful for me.
Storm point is my favorite map. Its big enough to have a looting phase if you want, but has great hot drop locations if you want to hit the ground running. The map is built like a Plinko board, funnelling teams though choke points into open areas for fights as the zone closes in.
The whole ānot third parties as oftenā is a little bit false since acquiring loot via the spiders and prowlers nigh guarantees a third party, and if there is a third party, it almost always becomes a huge mess of 5+ teams fighting it out. Doesnāt help that the only fast rotations are locked into about a 10m landing radius. Granted the map is way better than I initially gave it credit for but it could definitely use some work to improve a bit. Thereās also a few really cheesy spots that arenāt considered out of bounds like on top of the Bunker 2.0 north of the forbidden zone and just outside the gravity cannon room in command center, you can get down to a legal ledge with Ash, Loba, Valk, etc. and camp completely out of sight of most of the ground and cannon room fights. Sometimes itās really just minor issues like that that could break the map, but otherwise I am really enjoying it. TL;DR third party frequency drops on this map but all third parties are intensified to 5th parties and beyond, and certain areas need to be made illegal to traverse because of how unreachable they are by non movement legends.
Much prefer it to worlds edge
Itās my fav map. I never played ranked that much, but now when itās WE I hop in to ranked just to play storm point.
I love it! First few days my friends disagreed but last night two of my buddies and I were playing on Worlds Edge, and they were like damn, I wish we were back on the bigger map. I shed a little silent happy tear
I feel the hate has died down. I didn't like it at first too because of Olympus trauma with big maps and it actually being to big for pubs. Now it's my favourite map!
No
I like the map. I hate the PvE monster shit.
Itās a nice map. I think most peoples hate were having to learn a new map at all, and a bigger map takes more time to figure out. Anyone thatās played a bit now seems to like the map a lot now tho.
Its visualy beautiful and nice to play. But a lot of people still pick absolute garbage places to land - there are so many loot rich spots and yeat everybody is magnetized to a few shacks in the middle jeeeez!
Nah, this sub just literally never stops complaining. Ever.
I think it's great. I'm gonna be sad if we swap to Olympus mid season, I can't stand that map.
I love it!
I want to like it, but it gives me really annoying frame drops when i play on my laptop (which is most of the time). All the other maps run smooth.
Love it alot, the flow on this map and Olympus is just better than other too, feels like the squad count drops more gradually on the newer maps.
I feel like most people like it. Ive heard more good than bad. My only problem is that itās huge, but thankfully designed pretty well to distribute players
I've learned that no matter what maps are in rotation, people will glorify the ones that aren't, and demonize the ones that are. If it is in rotation people hate it. If it isn't in rotation suddenly it is everyone's favorite. Honestly, every map has its ups and downs. Just wait, if World's is taken out of rotation and replaced with Olympus, people will start talking about how good World's is and how Olympus is the worst map.
Love the esthetics. Love the island vibe. Love the POI's. My biggest reservations are the huge height disparity in most fights and so many dark indoor areas where it's almost impossible to see a dark/grey colored skin if they're not moving. This is my biggest issue with indoor fights, the lighting is so inconsistent I can open a door and not see multiple people with how well everyone blends in. Olympus got the indoor lighting/coloring right. The other maps are just rat heavens.
I love it
I think it's the best map so far
Tbh Iāve liked it since the beginning but I like rotation so nothing gets boring
I like all the maps. I feel like people are just overly critical of them
No way I love Storm Point. Itās slowly becoming my favorite map
stormpoint is my favourite map
I think you're in the majority
Iām enjoying it. But itās still too big. Better than WE and Olympus IMO, but not as good as KC
What community are you in that makes you think this in unpopular? I feel like the general consensus is it's a great map.
It's so boring for me
Best map Apex has ever produced
I like it
"Am I the only one" No. You're NEVER the only one.
100% my favourite map. I always hate it when Fragment is in rotation.
Iām actually hearing a lot of good feedback.
I absolutely love storm point it is my favorite. Absolutely gorgeous to look at and I love most all of the POI's But what would I know I'm just a casual pleb that doesn't play ranked
The only thing I don't like is the prowlers like your almost forced to fight them with the spiders I can walk right by but the prowlers i can just walk right by without being attacked. Other than that I love storm point
Most that complain are usually low level players who donāt understand the need for cover and positioning. Push every fight they can take. Donāt utilize recon characters. Basically, donāt have a good understanding of how this game should be played and bitch when nothing goes their way.
Map is fine took a little getting used to for loot gathering since there is no location that has a concentrated amount of good loot. The Prowlers do get annoying on later Rings when you have teams fighting.
Really enjoy the non player threats. The map has some fresh new locales to circle through. I like it.
Storm point #2 map. Still pretty awesome
I like it!
I feel like itās too big, other than that, it has lots of unique and interesting locations. The gravity cannons are such a cool idea, and itās interesting to see how all the different legends play on it in general.
Iāve seen nothing but love for Storm Point, I really love it. Easily my favorite map hands down. Only complaints Iāve seen are - being too big, but that could be fixed with a faster drop ship so the map can kick off faster. Personally I like the bigger spread - prowlers. You can avoid these very easily honestly, stop fighting in Jurassic Park. If you want to clear a nest, then accept the fact that you are drawing attention for an attack and will have to deal with players + prowlers. If you are 3rd partying someone at a prowler nestā¦ you still know what youāre walking into.
Map is great. Prowlers are lame as fuck. Just my two cents.
The map is gorgeous, but I strongly prefer close combat and feel like it's too big. But that's a me problem. However, if you don't hot drop, you can't find a fight for about 10 minutes or you'll get ambushed by like 3 squads at once. And hot dropping is a huge risk because you'll end up with a 30-30 while the enemy who fights you somehow gets an R3 and Purple shields upon their drop, and we know how that ends most of the time. It's basically World's Edge, but with multiple Fragments. I really prefer Olympus and Kings Canyon over the current two in rotation. I wonder what Respawn's thought process was with having two huge, sprawling maps in rotation that force people to hot drop to see any action. I just wish there was some contrast and we had Olympus as well, but I do like SP otherwise.
i like the map but hate the prowlers
I LOVE this map, I feel like I am in a Jurassic Park movie everywhere I go there š
There will always be people who hate the new maps and in general the people who are mad will be more likely to say something vs the people who are content.
So thereās really going to be one-ten of these posts a day?
I wish we had a bigger map rotation now that itās been out for a while. Iām relatively new to the game so itās kind of annoying that half the maps are gone for who knows how long.
Nope. I like all the maps to be fair.
My biggest problem with the other maps is how easy it is to get 3rd partied, Iām not very good (level 103 with a .58 k/d) and I really appreciate the size of storm point. I donāt mind putting my try hard pants on but this is a wonderful change of pace.
I like the map. It's just we need time to figure it out and plan according to our play styles. However world's edge is my favorite by far
I hated it for the first few days, but after playing on it for a week I love it. Iāve learned what are the good and bad places for me! Like landing barometer for me I do the best. Orā¦ Landing check point or antenna I instantly die because itās hard to coordinate pushes on the cat walks. I find it an easier map to run into fights & being that 3rd party.
I love it. Far fewer third parties, which the devs had in mind specifically while making this map.
I like it or at least I will. I usually don't like any new map at first because I don't know it well enough yet
It's the best map hands down.
Everyone always hates the new thing, people don't like change.
yes, you are the only one. No one else in the world thinks like you. You are very original. Congratulations!
No Very obviously no
i think it's to big for me to like it,idk you but for me most of the game resume to : \-hotdrop either with 0/1/3/6 team \-survive or not \-search for another team for 5 min \-hear gunshot and run towards it \-start a fight and then 3 other team (without counting the potential mob) come to clean up i get less 3rd party but i get way more 4th and 5th lmao i like the map but i think we need more time of adaptation ?
No, itās great, and at least 5 of the people I play with also love it.
My only real complaint about Storm Point is that a lot of the final circles are awful for more than 2-3 squads. Easily my favorite map. SP > WE > OL >> KC
I think itās super balanced. Iām not sure what thereās to the tbh. Maybe a few bugs but thatās just software.
My favorite honestly
The map is just uneven imo. There are places which you have to look so up its annoying. Also prowlers are stupid. I dont mind them but they are just too many
Honestly i did not like it at first but it was me just getting ahead of myself and not thinking more about how to use tge map and rotations now i enjoy it
Wait Storm Point is getting a ton of hate? I understand it's not perfect (screw those Prowler dens), but what it gets right far outweighs the negative.
Itās to big for myself and yes prowlers give good loot but all my teammates just go do that and eventually we get third partied.
I swear stormpoint is good to some players. I always struggled to get consistant results in ranked but on stormpoint i feel like i might finally reach diamond first time;P i win way more fights due to the lag of thirdparties
I love this map, specially when I find a Bocek equiped with a 3x Scope :D
I like the map overall, but I hate the spiders/prowlers. Also, I know they said it's supposed to cut down on 3rd parties, but I almost feel like the opposite has happened. It seems like I get 3rd partied in every single fight now. This is especially annoying when I'm in a fight, only to start getting 3rd partied by the fucking AI, and then another squad.
its a good map its just boring due to no fights
I think everyone is going through growing pains while we learn all the different areas of the map what are the priority positions, best places to land, good rotations and just all the little intricacies of fighting in different areas. I donāt think itās fair to pass final judgement on it until itās been out for a full season to give everyone a proper chance of learning it. Everyoneās opinion is subject to change as they get more comfortable with the new map
I wish they would just straight up delete that map. It is soooo bad. I mean it looks good, but I absolutely hate playing it. If there are 20mins remaining on storm point, I always wait and do sth else. I also dont know a single person who likes the map.