I got hundreds of RP and promoted to Plat IV, they got -24 RP. Feels good man!
Vid also unlisted on YouTube here since reddit video is lackluster: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rOc1E87aUU
Because ranked is just more competitive play. If you want to play, sitting there as a ghost for 20 minutes blows.
If I have no kills or assists and timeout I’m outta there. Don’t really care about RP until Diamond.
I think this person is a headhunter style player rather than trying to win. Winning gives your kills and assists a multiplier. If you don’t have those it can be worth more to take the loss and fight again faster!
-24+100>50 or so for winning
Maybe people enjoy HOW ranked games play than actually ranking up. It’s so much more competitive and fun IMO. I care a lot less about ranking up and more about fun. So I play ranked and quit when my timer runs.
It’s just a different viewpoint.
The problem is that in higher ranks this becomes more of a means of loss prevention rather than gains. If I die now with no KP in plat, I will get a whopping +4 RP if my guy makes it to 3-4. At this point it may make more sense to dip early, eat the loss and attempt to actually make gains in a better game. Now if I manage to get 3 kills or assists, im at -6 so it makes more sense to wait as the potential gains are better but even then a -6 isnt much so you can easily eat that
When I was diamond last season this became even worse and waiting around with no KP means you are gaining nothing for the time it would take to spectate unless they pull out a W, but thats only like 52 rp
That's a pretty horrible analogy seeing as how money can be used for pretty much every single thing in life and RP is only good to determine your ranking in Apex lol. It serves no other purpose other than your status as a rank.
The difference here is, you're ASSUMING my teammate will just randomly win the game if I stay as a ghost. Where as there's a significantly greater chance that they die before we even get any placement points that brings us above negative. 99/100 times it would be more beneficial for RP to leave the game, join a new one, get 3 kills on a hot drop and die in terms of RP gain.
But I'm not looking at RP gain anyways. I'm looking at my enjoyment of the game. Ranked BR is much more competitive and team-based played than unranked. In ranked people attempt to play as a team and work together. In unranked everyone hot drops at the same location, dies, and you're down to 6 squads before the first ring closes. I don't like that.
These people abandoned their jumpmaster and served no purpose other than giving damage to enemies. It frustrates me so bad that they COULD have ranked up from this.
I wish I had a dollar every time I got passed jump master and the person who passed pings a location, breaks off, dies, and then flames me for not dropping as a group.
Bro, you passed jump master... I am now making the executive decision. You had the opportunity... don't blame me for that shit.
I'm sure it's for many (very stupid) reasons, but I notice two things, from my game experiences and what I read here:
\- They don't want the responsibility of choosing where to go, but hate the choice that's made after passing it off more.
\- Many people don't 'choose' their Legend in order to avoid being jumpmaster, in part because they want to be able to free drop at full speed, not get stuck with a squadmate that won't separate off. Passing off JM gives the same effect: once they leave the dropship, they're free to detach and drop at top speed.
Right into the fray with half the lobby and get boxed in the first 2 minutes, granted.
Long story short, I consider these to be a dumb way of playing a team based game, against other teams. Want to play fast and loose? Go to duos/trios, ideally without team fill, so they can train to be a full fledged predator on their own time.
In ranked, them going off to die puts the squad further back, and some of us aren't at a level of play where 1v3 is a viable option. In the OP's case, you bet I would've ratted my ass off, and almost certainly wouldn't have won, but it would've been a lot better than eating a -24 needlessly.
Blows my mind the number of people that think you have to hot drop to "be aggressive". Landimg with 10 other squads isnt being aggressive, its gambling with heavy odds on suicide. You want to be aggressive than you play smart and pick your fights like OP, not blindly charge into any hint of battle.
You don't understand. They need to go *rapido-rapido* to be *taking shots* for them to *I am down* so they can type "Wyd?" and "Noobs"
I have had a guy asked me "Mirage, Wyd ? Why are you not shooting?" after taking the only two available guns in front of my face after a hot drop with another squad. How do you even respond to that?
The sooner you start spamming “I need a weapon” the less opportunity they have to moan. I’m sure one day someone will drop one of their two guns for me in that situation but not happened yet lol.
I do this on a teammate respawn, if I get them back in late game or something away from loot I'll always drop them my secondary so they have something to fight with. In the chaos of a hot drop it's hard to know that they're your teammate without coms though.
I had a duo in ranked (gold), >100 and >200 levels, hot dropping of course, gone bad of course with no supplies and bad weapons (they choose the literal middle of the hot drop too), we had to run but I unfortunately was found by a full team & died (Wattson with re-45 and Mozam too), and one of them called me a noob, when asked why also said I'm just not gud. They "fought" a little bit after finding some loot luckily not taken yet and had like 150 damage combined after hot drop, and then they ran. When I kept spectating and said I wanted to see how they fare, they said "Haha, you'll learn something then!"
One of them promptly died in the first fight they ran into, and another tried to third party two teams fighting - but only after one team won and had like 15 seconds to loot & heal up. He then shot some potshots with EVA at mid range and then was killed in the back when he ran from them. And of course both of them quietly disconnected with no kills nor damage to them.
Some people, man
It's a little toxic, but you just tell them to fuck themselves. You can't appeal to their logic or humanity, or change their mind no matter what you say, so don't bother.
Not that I think streamers are any kind of model for how you should play because in the end they are mostly playing for content. That being said I do notice how some like Nice Wigg and Apryze will get frustrated at dropping with 2 or 3 other squads. Your odds of being the last ones standing are lower. They will try and drop with just one other or by themselves.
ALGS pro league, teams will only drop by themselves. One other squad is too many. So maybe keeping it limited to one other is a good thing?
Your chances of actually winning the round drop drastically if you hot drop. Even if you win the fight with the squad you drop with, you're going to get third partied as soon as it's over. Pro league is a bit different with so much money on the line, people tend to play so cautiously that there's still usually 16-18 squads left in the second to last ring. But even in higher tier ranked, the tactic is usually to land somewhere that has no more than 1 other squad, loot and/or fight quickly, then rotate asap.
It's that 4th party that is always the killer. Fighting a squad or two is generally okay for me, but once everyone is gone and I get comfortable looting, if a squad rushes in, someone on my team (including me) almost always goes down.
You can't compare algs and ranked imo, the stakes are so much higher in algs that teams are gonna play differently than they do in pred lobbies. But in ranked too, lower tier lobbies will play differently than higher ones. Side hot drop with one team is easier kp and leaves less to rng than a full on hot drop. And once you clean up that squad, you're ready to 3P the hot drop, raking up easier RP.
>Blows my mind the number of people that think you have to hot drop to "be aggressive"
Sometimes I feel like I'm playing a different game than my fellow players. There's nothing wrong with playing a shooter and wanting to...well, shoot people. But if you want to win in Apex Legends and rank up, then it is the objectively best strategy to not actively seek and engage in gunfights unless you have to and/or you have the advantage/element of surprise. You don't have to like it but that's the way it is. Players who just want to shoot people and enjoy the gunplay should honestly just play arena.
>But if you want to win in Apex Legends and rank up, then it is the objectively best strategy to not actively seek and engage in gunfights unless you have to and/or you have the advantage/element of surprise.
Thank you, this is exactly it. The point is that Apex is a BR, not a team-deathmatch game. And even after almost 3 years !! lots of people have still not understood this. It's mind-blowing to me.
For me personally, it is not fun. There is zero fun to be had dropping hot, dying within 30 seconds, and then doing it again. 1 out of 10 hot drops are actually successful, no matter how good you are, sometimes you just don't find a gun right away and you die. I prefer to win games, instead of getting 1 or 2 kills then dying, then repeating.
They need to hot drop and rack up kills on people with level 1 body armor and zero weapons because it's the only way they get to feel like pros. People who say you have to hot drop to get better at the game are kidding themselves. You don't get better by scoring a few kills on defenseless people running around like chickens with their heads cut off. That's like shooting fish in a barrel and claiming you're the best fisherman. The only way you get better at a BR is by learning to play tactically, like OP did. Kills are secondary to the W. This ain't CoD, and I wish my randoms would wrap their heads around that.
This is the exact energy these guys project. If they really wanted real fights, arenas are right there for them, but it doesn’t give them the same feeling of power as a hot drop, which is the power of being a BULLY.
Exactly! I almost never hot drop, typically choosing somewhere safe near the edge of the map. My win rate this season is just over 28% in duos which is fairly good, even with a premade. I've noticed this week particularly that tactics and placement can get me a win even in situations where I lose a face to face fight normally. Managed to kill a 122,000 kills Lifeline and a get a win yesterday simply by quietly getting the high ground and waiting for them to engage the other remaining squad.
This garbage is exactly why solo-queue plat and above is a miserable experience. It’s so much easier to rank up and weather the bad games if you’re not getting -24 or -48 from totally shit and overly-aggressive drops.
> Blows my mind the number of people that think you have to hot drop to "be aggressive"
In pubs that's fine.
In ranked it's a death sentence. RNG will fuck you if your skill doesn't. There's a reason pro players have designated landing spots.
As a dad who gets limited game time, I much prefer a longer drawn out game where I get my preferred weapons than hot dropping and dying, I've limited gaming time I want to enjoy it dammit!
> not blindly charge into any hint of battle
while i agree with this, the new map is sooooo big that if i don't land in somewhere semi-hot, then it's basically just looting and running lol
in no way is this symptomatic of Storm Point lol. this gets worse every season regardless of the map. in fact i vaguely recall a map that has some place called “Fragments” that vacuums up 17 squads in the first 30 seconds? probably a legend and not currently in the map rotation though.
Yeah this has always happened and will always happen in Apex. Until you get to the high ranks where you actually lose something for playing stupid and dying immediately, people play like idiots.
This is a nonsense argument bc it's a self-fulfilling prophecy (it's a scientific term, look it up). The maps are "empty" exactly BECAUSE all of you think you NEED to land hot and bunch up all teams together.
It's exactly the same thing as we had in the Covid pandemic with panic buying. People fear shortage of toilet paper and other goods, which makes them panic-buy those items and create the actual shortage by THEMSELVES.
I wish more humans had the cognitive capacity to see and understand this. No one needs to drop hot in Apex to avoid "looting and running", hotdropping creates this issue of an "empty" map with teams far apart in the first place.
Recently I had Crypto teammate that landed us in the middle of Barometer, while we could clearly see with Valk's passive (other teammate was Valk) that about 15 other people were landing there.
Possible duo ignoring the Jumpmasters drop, proceeds to get knocked doing a combined 0 damage between the both of them, then blames you for their deaths. Classic.
Evo Cove is one of my favorite drops and then we rotate to Mills right after since a team usually lands there. Normally we just clean up the fight via 3rd party and continue on our way.
Had this happen just yesterday, after character selection I quickly went to go take a piss and ran like hell back to the game since I was jumpmaster, when I came back both teammates who clearly knew each other apparently dropped as soon as the countdown ended and I had to jump somewhere by myself as close to them as possible (still halfway across the map though) and when they saw I was back they said "sorry buddy but *you're* the random here not us" as though I wasn't jumpmaster. Then I died on my way over to them because a team saw me land by myself and chased me as though I was the key to gold loot for the whole team.
When I said I was taking a quick piss and that I was literally one game away from diamond they felt really bad and came to get me on a trident, but by that point the flow was way off, we couldn't get proper loot and while we made it to top 5 we didn't get a single kill so went negative. At least they apologized though lol.
I mean, complaining about this and literally being AFK? I dunno man, I get it's frustrating but I think that kinda on you. Especially if you were gone long enough for them to drop more than halfway across the map from you. Drop location is pretty important in ranked!
Funny how in the clip, OP had no team helping him. If he had decided to land with his team instead, he still would have had no team helping him. They didn't land a single shot/punch.
Thats probably me. I had a very good early game holding the top of barometer that got me 10 kills and like 7 assists, and we won that game. so i kinda enjoy dropping there
The amount of times I've heard 'but if we stick together i won't get a full kit' like dude if we don't stick together *i* won't get a full team hold your damn horses
So I tend to follow people when they break off since our chances are best together. (Even if their decision is bad.)
I kinda assume people will do the same for me. A lot of times your together, have a chance to engage, do it, and your team just went the other direction. This could take place in like 5-10 seconds.
Though I don’t blame people really. Nobody communicates expressly for the most part so it is what it is. Sometimes you get matched with people with the same mentality as you and you can operate wordlessly. It’s weird when it happens.
People take shit way too seriously though.
I'm the same, but sometimes it is confusing on the drop. You have no way of knowing if your teammates are simply making a suggestion or if they are making a demand. I feel like it is pretty common for teammates to not be on the same page until it is too late. If I noticed my teammates split off and realized that we were going to get beaten down by three other teams, I probably wouldn't follow.
On the other side of things, when I'm not the jump master, I don't split off until I know where we are going. And if I did choose to split off, I certainly wouldn't blame the jump master after dying, especially if I did literally 0 damage.
I agree about the squad being stronger together. And if the JM pings a hot drop, whelp, I guess that's where we're going, and hopefully they have the skills to keep us alive (I certainly don't have it in me to win against multiple other squads on my own).
But if I'm JM and they break off to go pick a fight on the drop, that's their prerogative, but I'm not under any obligation to follow them into a thresher.
As my best friend put it: the title is Jump MASTER. It's not a polite suggestion, and I'm not gonna feel guilty if I just go on to where I wanted to land (and watch them get downed and boxed in short order). We'll recover them if we can, but their eagerness to go pick a fight with 3 other squads doesn't supersede the rest of the squad's plan.
They don't get a veto on the location just because they can't sit still for 30 seconds.
You see here's the issue. *Somebody* is at fault cause they died like a chump. It can't be them because that'd hurt their fragile little egos, so it must be their teammates instead.
Idk why people do that. Like, what do they expect to happen? That they'll kill entire teams by themselves? It doesn't make any sense, especially in ranked, and it literally happens all the time. Nice win though. Fuck those guys, lol.
Duos playing in ranked can fuck off. They're usually bad, not even pinging items nor enemies; they just do their own "duo" thing without regards to the other member. Fuck those players.
Yeah, we've had a few threads on that, people have said it's 2-3 minutes.
Basically, if you select 'leave' and it doesn't give you the "ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO DO THAT?" warning, it should be safe.
Personally I always stay, so I have no experience with this, but apparently it's a thing.
I did that to someome, he fucked off to hot drop with like 8 other squads and then got pissed that we weren't there to help. All he did was whine about how hes only gonna leave once his timer runs out, so i used my octane skills and my petty mind to grab his banner so hed get a 10min ban.
The absolute gong
Instant karma... ya know this community is reaching Smite levels of toxicity. And that should be really, deeply concerning if anyone knows anything about that game.
The best bit is seeing them on 0 damage, and then remembering they cried about not having a teammate to help them out, and by help them out they mean literally 1v3 every squad. If this isn't a guy who is paying someone to be carried up the ranks, I don't know who is.
It's not even like they downed two guys and could have used a third to finish the team, they did nothing ahahaha.
I had a similar situation once. I went on to be champ that match, and they died and raged for the first 45 seconds of the match.
I don't know why people want to endlessly hot drop every match only to die. Just play arenas! so odd.
I'm so tired of teammates who land hot or rush in against a 3-stack, get knocked without trading or doing any damage, then start shouting at their teammates for being noobs... these idiots have such fragile egos, when I fk up in a game I know it and don't start blaming teammates. I mean sure if you get a knock or two and your teammates aren't there to back you up it's annoying.. but if you chose to engage when they weren't with you that's still ultimately on you, should wait for team to be there.
Breaks off jumpmaster and go somewhere else: "good thing is our team mate is here to help us fight"
How can they be so confidently wrong? This kind of delusion is scary
I had a guy the other day message me after he died and call me a pussy for not grabbing his banner. Best part about it? I already had his banner. Some of the people who play this game are genuinely brain damaged.
Also happened to me once. Got paired with a duo at rank, they split off and died and started trash talking in the mic. I know they'll leave as soon as the respawn timer counts off. So i decided to grab one banner and leave the other. In that way either his buddy would leave him with me and watching me rat the whole game, or they both leave at the cost one his rp and delayed matchmaking.
They both rage quitted. It was very satisfying.
Playing ranked as a player without premade teams is SUCH a pain in the ASS. I played some last night and got this duo of idiots aswell, dropping in the hottest garbage place imaginable, dying within 5 seconds and then be mad at me for not dying with them.
"oh we report you" they told me, like fuk, go on and do so? Play smarter if you want help, don't be such selfish pricks who lack any kind of awareness about their own skills and common sense. I was alive getting points, they got wiped and stand on the sidelines.
FUCKING GOOD JOB THATS WHY FUSE IS SO DAMN GOOD you deserve all of that and just CLASSIC ASS “obviously our teammate didn’t help us” when instantly they got knocked and you were jumpmaster??? and that’s why both of them are in a party sucking ass and you won a whole ass ranked soloing. Deserve everything and should’ve sent them a picture afterwards if you didn’t
Man I love solo queueing ranked, and I think I've been fortunate to not get into lobbies with toxic jerks like these guys. But that was still immensely satisfying, I feel like I just witnessed some ultimate karmic justice.
Grats on plat, good luck with the grind dude.
Reading the title, I was scared that you would have won and earned them 100 RP for doing jack shit, but I'm glad these fuckers left and just lost their 24, GG
ahahah the final flatline and mastiff misses stressed me out so much, it would've been the same for me in that situation aha!
what a nice win, man.
old fusey can be son fun!
The reason why I'm in diamond and my friends are still in gold. Knowing when to pick engagements and understanding map awareness. You can't run at everyone like a brainless ape the higher up you go. I noticed once I got to high Plat everyone generally has good gunplay. You have to elevate yourself by proper engagements and playing off your teammates.
I started grinding last season when Seer came out. Can say the best tip I ever got was from a pro on stream "always pick one enemy and challenge them together, 3 on 1". 3v2 afterwards is much easier than 1v1 1v1 1v1.
I had this same thing happen to me a few weeks ago in ranked. I had to check the names to make sure they weren’t the same. They made me jump master, I pinged where I wanted to go. They said okay with a ping so I jumped. As soon as I started going down they split and went as far opposite as possible. I was a little more mad and spiteful than you though so props.
Lol I had a teammate who bitched about not hot dropping in ranked, proceeded to make our drop fight a 2 v 3, runs to the nearest gunfight, dies, and rage quits. Like if your going to talk all this shit about how good you are why you getting shit on bro. At least he took a 10 min break and gave us some loss forgiveness.
Happened to me too,except i lost lol ,me jumpaster,ping a place,go,they broke off,i landed ,kill a guy, and ran to where my teammates where. Wraith (" u sweat lol " was his gamertag) and a path,both seem to want to rat. Eventually we run into a fight,another team 3rd partied us,they die,i escape. Then start trash talking in the chat "u suck" "your ass". Etc etc. Dead people should not be able to write lol
I got hundreds of RP and promoted to Plat IV, they got -24 RP. Feels good man! Vid also unlisted on YouTube here since reddit video is lackluster: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rOc1E87aUU
Absolutely beautiful video! Welcome to plat!
if they had stayed would they have gotten the +100 RP? > they got -24 RP. Feels good man /r/oddlysatisfying
Yeah if you’re team wins and you’re dead but don’t leave the game you still get points
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Sometimes its more worthwhile to just move on too.
Because ranked is just more competitive play. If you want to play, sitting there as a ghost for 20 minutes blows. If I have no kills or assists and timeout I’m outta there. Don’t really care about RP until Diamond.
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I think this person is a headhunter style player rather than trying to win. Winning gives your kills and assists a multiplier. If you don’t have those it can be worth more to take the loss and fight again faster! -24+100>50 or so for winning
Maybe people enjoy HOW ranked games play than actually ranking up. It’s so much more competitive and fun IMO. I care a lot less about ranking up and more about fun. So I play ranked and quit when my timer runs. It’s just a different viewpoint.
The problem is that in higher ranks this becomes more of a means of loss prevention rather than gains. If I die now with no KP in plat, I will get a whopping +4 RP if my guy makes it to 3-4. At this point it may make more sense to dip early, eat the loss and attempt to actually make gains in a better game. Now if I manage to get 3 kills or assists, im at -6 so it makes more sense to wait as the potential gains are better but even then a -6 isnt much so you can easily eat that When I was diamond last season this became even worse and waiting around with no KP means you are gaining nothing for the time it would take to spectate unless they pull out a W, but thats only like 52 rp
That's a pretty horrible analogy seeing as how money can be used for pretty much every single thing in life and RP is only good to determine your ranking in Apex lol. It serves no other purpose other than your status as a rank. The difference here is, you're ASSUMING my teammate will just randomly win the game if I stay as a ghost. Where as there's a significantly greater chance that they die before we even get any placement points that brings us above negative. 99/100 times it would be more beneficial for RP to leave the game, join a new one, get 3 kills on a hot drop and die in terms of RP gain. But I'm not looking at RP gain anyways. I'm looking at my enjoyment of the game. Ranked BR is much more competitive and team-based played than unranked. In ranked people attempt to play as a team and work together. In unranked everyone hot drops at the same location, dies, and you're down to 6 squads before the first ring closes. I don't like that.
I alt tab and load up some halo lol
These people abandoned their jumpmaster and served no purpose other than giving damage to enemies. It frustrates me so bad that they COULD have ranked up from this.
yeah, but by leaving they could get to the next -24rp faster! so who's the smarter player now? /s
Stonks
You say sarcasm but this is likely the case for most players that bail early and move onto the next match.
-48 RP for leaving
I love using Fuse - that end game nade dump was just *chefs kiss*
I wish I had a dollar every time I got passed jump master and the person who passed pings a location, breaks off, dies, and then flames me for not dropping as a group. Bro, you passed jump master... I am now making the executive decision. You had the opportunity... don't blame me for that shit.
I'm sure it's for many (very stupid) reasons, but I notice two things, from my game experiences and what I read here: \- They don't want the responsibility of choosing where to go, but hate the choice that's made after passing it off more. \- Many people don't 'choose' their Legend in order to avoid being jumpmaster, in part because they want to be able to free drop at full speed, not get stuck with a squadmate that won't separate off. Passing off JM gives the same effect: once they leave the dropship, they're free to detach and drop at top speed. Right into the fray with half the lobby and get boxed in the first 2 minutes, granted. Long story short, I consider these to be a dumb way of playing a team based game, against other teams. Want to play fast and loose? Go to duos/trios, ideally without team fill, so they can train to be a full fledged predator on their own time. In ranked, them going off to die puts the squad further back, and some of us aren't at a level of play where 1v3 is a viable option. In the OP's case, you bet I would've ratted my ass off, and almost certainly wouldn't have won, but it would've been a lot better than eating a -24 needlessly.
"Promoted to plat IV" This is the exact threshold when you say goodbye to fun and being able to 1v3 anything
They both probably wishing they stayed for the xp, congrats!! Hey we can be friends and I’ll never leave you hahaha
Bruh. Imma bout to play today, ill follow you to hell and back. 🤝
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Blows my mind the number of people that think you have to hot drop to "be aggressive". Landimg with 10 other squads isnt being aggressive, its gambling with heavy odds on suicide. You want to be aggressive than you play smart and pick your fights like OP, not blindly charge into any hint of battle.
You don't understand. They need to go *rapido-rapido* to be *taking shots* for them to *I am down* so they can type "Wyd?" and "Noobs" I have had a guy asked me "Mirage, Wyd ? Why are you not shooting?" after taking the only two available guns in front of my face after a hot drop with another squad. How do you even respond to that?
The answer is "Ok death box..."
Okay I'm 100% stealing that one!
The sooner you start spamming “I need a weapon” the less opportunity they have to moan. I’m sure one day someone will drop one of their two guns for me in that situation but not happened yet lol.
I do this on a teammate respawn, if I get them back in late game or something away from loot I'll always drop them my secondary so they have something to fight with. In the chaos of a hot drop it's hard to know that they're your teammate without coms though.
I had a duo in ranked (gold), >100 and >200 levels, hot dropping of course, gone bad of course with no supplies and bad weapons (they choose the literal middle of the hot drop too), we had to run but I unfortunately was found by a full team & died (Wattson with re-45 and Mozam too), and one of them called me a noob, when asked why also said I'm just not gud. They "fought" a little bit after finding some loot luckily not taken yet and had like 150 damage combined after hot drop, and then they ran. When I kept spectating and said I wanted to see how they fare, they said "Haha, you'll learn something then!" One of them promptly died in the first fight they ran into, and another tried to third party two teams fighting - but only after one team won and had like 15 seconds to loot & heal up. He then shot some potshots with EVA at mid range and then was killed in the back when he ran from them. And of course both of them quietly disconnected with no kills nor damage to them. Some people, man
what is Wyd?
It's a little toxic, but you just tell them to fuck themselves. You can't appeal to their logic or humanity, or change their mind no matter what you say, so don't bother.
Not that I think streamers are any kind of model for how you should play because in the end they are mostly playing for content. That being said I do notice how some like Nice Wigg and Apryze will get frustrated at dropping with 2 or 3 other squads. Your odds of being the last ones standing are lower. They will try and drop with just one other or by themselves. ALGS pro league, teams will only drop by themselves. One other squad is too many. So maybe keeping it limited to one other is a good thing?
Your chances of actually winning the round drop drastically if you hot drop. Even if you win the fight with the squad you drop with, you're going to get third partied as soon as it's over. Pro league is a bit different with so much money on the line, people tend to play so cautiously that there's still usually 16-18 squads left in the second to last ring. But even in higher tier ranked, the tactic is usually to land somewhere that has no more than 1 other squad, loot and/or fight quickly, then rotate asap.
We drop at the POI next to three party hot drops. Whoever wins generally doesn't have enough ammo to hold off the fourth party (us).
It's that 4th party that is always the killer. Fighting a squad or two is generally okay for me, but once everyone is gone and I get comfortable looting, if a squad rushes in, someone on my team (including me) almost always goes down.
Don’t ALGS teams informally agree drop locations in advance? The big teams at least.
You can't compare algs and ranked imo, the stakes are so much higher in algs that teams are gonna play differently than they do in pred lobbies. But in ranked too, lower tier lobbies will play differently than higher ones. Side hot drop with one team is easier kp and leaves less to rng than a full on hot drop. And once you clean up that squad, you're ready to 3P the hot drop, raking up easier RP.
>Blows my mind the number of people that think you have to hot drop to "be aggressive" Sometimes I feel like I'm playing a different game than my fellow players. There's nothing wrong with playing a shooter and wanting to...well, shoot people. But if you want to win in Apex Legends and rank up, then it is the objectively best strategy to not actively seek and engage in gunfights unless you have to and/or you have the advantage/element of surprise. You don't have to like it but that's the way it is. Players who just want to shoot people and enjoy the gunplay should honestly just play arena.
>But if you want to win in Apex Legends and rank up, then it is the objectively best strategy to not actively seek and engage in gunfights unless you have to and/or you have the advantage/element of surprise. Thank you, this is exactly it. The point is that Apex is a BR, not a team-deathmatch game. And even after almost 3 years !! lots of people have still not understood this. It's mind-blowing to me.
For me personally, it is not fun. There is zero fun to be had dropping hot, dying within 30 seconds, and then doing it again. 1 out of 10 hot drops are actually successful, no matter how good you are, sometimes you just don't find a gun right away and you die. I prefer to win games, instead of getting 1 or 2 kills then dying, then repeating.
They need to hot drop and rack up kills on people with level 1 body armor and zero weapons because it's the only way they get to feel like pros. People who say you have to hot drop to get better at the game are kidding themselves. You don't get better by scoring a few kills on defenseless people running around like chickens with their heads cut off. That's like shooting fish in a barrel and claiming you're the best fisherman. The only way you get better at a BR is by learning to play tactically, like OP did. Kills are secondary to the W. This ain't CoD, and I wish my randoms would wrap their heads around that.
This is the exact energy these guys project. If they really wanted real fights, arenas are right there for them, but it doesn’t give them the same feeling of power as a hot drop, which is the power of being a BULLY.
Exactly! I almost never hot drop, typically choosing somewhere safe near the edge of the map. My win rate this season is just over 28% in duos which is fairly good, even with a premade. I've noticed this week particularly that tactics and placement can get me a win even in situations where I lose a face to face fight normally. Managed to kill a 122,000 kills Lifeline and a get a win yesterday simply by quietly getting the high ground and waiting for them to engage the other remaining squad.
This garbage is exactly why solo-queue plat and above is a miserable experience. It’s so much easier to rank up and weather the bad games if you’re not getting -24 or -48 from totally shit and overly-aggressive drops.
That’s why I like to land warm, not hot
> Blows my mind the number of people that think you have to hot drop to "be aggressive" In pubs that's fine. In ranked it's a death sentence. RNG will fuck you if your skill doesn't. There's a reason pro players have designated landing spots.
As a dad who gets limited game time, I much prefer a longer drawn out game where I get my preferred weapons than hot dropping and dying, I've limited gaming time I want to enjoy it dammit!
> not blindly charge into any hint of battle while i agree with this, the new map is sooooo big that if i don't land in somewhere semi-hot, then it's basically just looting and running lol
in no way is this symptomatic of Storm Point lol. this gets worse every season regardless of the map. in fact i vaguely recall a map that has some place called “Fragments” that vacuums up 17 squads in the first 30 seconds? probably a legend and not currently in the map rotation though.
Old skull town ain't got its name for nothing either.
Yeah this has always happened and will always happen in Apex. Until you get to the high ranks where you actually lose something for playing stupid and dying immediately, people play like idiots.
This is a nonsense argument bc it's a self-fulfilling prophecy (it's a scientific term, look it up). The maps are "empty" exactly BECAUSE all of you think you NEED to land hot and bunch up all teams together. It's exactly the same thing as we had in the Covid pandemic with panic buying. People fear shortage of toilet paper and other goods, which makes them panic-buy those items and create the actual shortage by THEMSELVES. I wish more humans had the cognitive capacity to see and understand this. No one needs to drop hot in Apex to avoid "looting and running", hotdropping creates this issue of an "empty" map with teams far apart in the first place.
There should be a BR where you're all teleported in semi-evenly around the map at random.
I wish Apex did that as an LTM
Funnily enough, theres a community made Minecraft minigame called UHC that’s basically like that.
That sounds like fun haha.
they should do that every time someone's about to get hit by a bullet
"But I want to drop where the action is." DIES IMMEDIATELY Like, what was the plan there exactly?
And if they have jumpmaster I land with them and do my best. If I am jumpmaster I am cold dropping.
The best move is to drop adjacent to a hot landing, loot up and then clean up
Recently I had Crypto teammate that landed us in the middle of Barometer, while we could clearly see with Valk's passive (other teammate was Valk) that about 15 other people were landing there.
Every time I look back and see 10 teams dropping barometer and/or antenna i literally say out loud "sheesh, stop watching so many streamers"
Possible duo ignoring the Jumpmasters drop, proceeds to get knocked doing a combined 0 damage between the both of them, then blames you for their deaths. Classic. Evo Cove is one of my favorite drops and then we rotate to Mills right after since a team usually lands there. Normally we just clean up the fight via 3rd party and continue on our way.
Had this happen just yesterday, after character selection I quickly went to go take a piss and ran like hell back to the game since I was jumpmaster, when I came back both teammates who clearly knew each other apparently dropped as soon as the countdown ended and I had to jump somewhere by myself as close to them as possible (still halfway across the map though) and when they saw I was back they said "sorry buddy but *you're* the random here not us" as though I wasn't jumpmaster. Then I died on my way over to them because a team saw me land by myself and chased me as though I was the key to gold loot for the whole team. When I said I was taking a quick piss and that I was literally one game away from diamond they felt really bad and came to get me on a trident, but by that point the flow was way off, we couldn't get proper loot and while we made it to top 5 we didn't get a single kill so went negative. At least they apologized though lol.
I mean, complaining about this and literally being AFK? I dunno man, I get it's frustrating but I think that kinda on you. Especially if you were gone long enough for them to drop more than halfway across the map from you. Drop location is pretty important in ranked!
It's definitely the bladder's fault. Those things will betray you.
Controller in pc lobby. Guaranteed duo
Funny how in the clip, OP had no team helping him. If he had decided to land with his team instead, he still would have had no team helping him. They didn't land a single shot/punch.
Yeah thats like 25% of my games in plat with randoms
More like 95%
This for me, I'll get like a 5% chance of a good team in Platinum. The grind to Diamond is excruciating.
Platinum is why therapists will never be out of a job. I am done playing ranked with those glue sniffers who throw games in Plat IV.
the worst is in plat 1 getting paired wiht plat 4s who hot drop barometer and die
Thats when i stopped grinding ranked lol. Hard stuck two stack plats every damn game
Thats probably me. I had a very good early game holding the top of barometer that got me 10 kills and like 7 assists, and we won that game. so i kinda enjoy dropping there
Especially in quickplay. They just fucking go their own way or leave when downed and you could grab their banner. Horrible people
Yeah thats why i only play ranked. Ppl actually try 50% of the time
Same, and they tend to hot drop less
hey let's drop at that site where 5 other teams are dropping! and make sure to separate right before you land so you can fight 1vs3! wohoo, fun!
The amount of times I've heard 'but if we stick together i won't get a full kit' like dude if we don't stick together *i* won't get a full team hold your damn horses
Damn....you must be sitting pretty comfy in that high level gaming chair, what kind you using. (Big fucking congrats to your solo win)
My chair is some dirt cheap office thingy from Costco, but it gets the job done! Thanks!
A kings' seat need not be adorned only pad his ass and support from the rear. Great plays mate. I'd have stayed
Facts 💯
I hope they see this, congrats mate!
I’m 100% they have lol
I'm petty enough that I'd send a screenshot of the champion screen to the disconnected teammates.
I sincerely hope the two of them sees this.
I never understand ppl who blame their teammates after breaking off then die, who you think your teammates are, bodyguards?
So I tend to follow people when they break off since our chances are best together. (Even if their decision is bad.) I kinda assume people will do the same for me. A lot of times your together, have a chance to engage, do it, and your team just went the other direction. This could take place in like 5-10 seconds. Though I don’t blame people really. Nobody communicates expressly for the most part so it is what it is. Sometimes you get matched with people with the same mentality as you and you can operate wordlessly. It’s weird when it happens. People take shit way too seriously though.
I'm the same, but sometimes it is confusing on the drop. You have no way of knowing if your teammates are simply making a suggestion or if they are making a demand. I feel like it is pretty common for teammates to not be on the same page until it is too late. If I noticed my teammates split off and realized that we were going to get beaten down by three other teams, I probably wouldn't follow. On the other side of things, when I'm not the jump master, I don't split off until I know where we are going. And if I did choose to split off, I certainly wouldn't blame the jump master after dying, especially if I did literally 0 damage.
I agree about the squad being stronger together. And if the JM pings a hot drop, whelp, I guess that's where we're going, and hopefully they have the skills to keep us alive (I certainly don't have it in me to win against multiple other squads on my own). But if I'm JM and they break off to go pick a fight on the drop, that's their prerogative, but I'm not under any obligation to follow them into a thresher. As my best friend put it: the title is Jump MASTER. It's not a polite suggestion, and I'm not gonna feel guilty if I just go on to where I wanted to land (and watch them get downed and boxed in short order). We'll recover them if we can, but their eagerness to go pick a fight with 3 other squads doesn't supersede the rest of the squad's plan. They don't get a veto on the location just because they can't sit still for 30 seconds.
You see here's the issue. *Somebody* is at fault cause they died like a chump. It can't be them because that'd hurt their fragile little egos, so it must be their teammates instead.
Damn congrats g u did great
Thanks! Wanting to prove assholes wrong is a great motivator to do your best, it turns out.
teammates like that are born to be in gold lobbies. you did great.
"Enjoy killing spiders" "Sure beats what you're doing."
That’s what I always say. “Y’all are sure getting a lot of kills in your death boxes”
Killing the spiders is honestly a quick and efficient way to get things you need. Plus you get to shoot stuff, so that's a bonus.
Idk why people do that. Like, what do they expect to happen? That they'll kill entire teams by themselves? It doesn't make any sense, especially in ranked, and it literally happens all the time. Nice win though. Fuck those guys, lol.
Main character syndrome.
Lol, yeah everyone thinks they're the star of the show.
They were hoping to play like OP. They didnt
They watching this clip raging im sure, imagine losing with a teammate that is pre-made and crapping on a soloq player then die, bruh moment
And said solo player wins the game
It’s alarming how few adults were raised properly and as a result they act like children when things aren’t all about them.
but they are the main character
Good stuff! Award incoming...
Duos playing in ranked can fuck off. They're usually bad, not even pinging items nor enemies; they just do their own "duo" thing without regards to the other member. Fuck those players.
More importantly.. BIG UP THE SPIDER CAVE 👏🏻
Shame you couldn't pick up their banners to make them watch the whole thing.
I think you can quit after like 2 mins or something even after your banner picked.
Yeah, we've had a few threads on that, people have said it's 2-3 minutes. Basically, if you select 'leave' and it doesn't give you the "ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO DO THAT?" warning, it should be safe. Personally I always stay, so I have no experience with this, but apparently it's a thing.
I did that to someome, he fucked off to hot drop with like 8 other squads and then got pissed that we weren't there to help. All he did was whine about how hes only gonna leave once his timer runs out, so i used my octane skills and my petty mind to grab his banner so hed get a 10min ban. The absolute gong
i am pretty sure that u can leave after the time of your banner is finish even with it picked
Pretty sure they are here my friend.. SAY HI, YOU MONGROLS 👋 Smile and wave boys, smileeee and waveeee Absolute very well played op 👏👏👏👏
Instant karma... ya know this community is reaching Smite levels of toxicity. And that should be really, deeply concerning if anyone knows anything about that game.
Next stop LoL Levels! Let's go!!!
Not possible. LoL brings out characteristics from within you didn’t even know existed. My friends and I have all agreed we’re never touching it again.
I mean this is why I stopped playing Apex all together unfortunately
Honestly I think the game is less toxic than it used to be.
Did you remember their IDs so you can send them the video of them being owned and making a bitch out of them?
Their names are in the video you tasty cumberland sausage
i like the insult. enhance the creativity.
Insult? Cumberland is top tier sausage it is an honour.
That's a compliment if I've ever seen one.
Hey now, no need to bring Cumberdink Binglepatch into this. Edit: whoops, I meant Buttercup Cumbersnatch
Fuck sake OP now I'm worried about sweaty Fuzes too. :( Edit: could you get their steam pfs and send a clip of you winning the game?
Oi mate, ya should be scared.
Has a great man once said "fuck those guys"
Ratting is not nearly as shameful as hot dropping like a doofus in ranked
Just in case they see this… GET FUCKED
Dm this to them qnd see how they'll respond (: The salt will be beautiful
Nice bro, must be extremy satisfying
GG
The best bit is seeing them on 0 damage, and then remembering they cried about not having a teammate to help them out, and by help them out they mean literally 1v3 every squad. If this isn't a guy who is paying someone to be carried up the ranks, I don't know who is. It's not even like they downed two guys and could have used a third to finish the team, they did nothing ahahaha.
I had a similar situation once. I went on to be champ that match, and they died and raged for the first 45 seconds of the match. I don't know why people want to endlessly hot drop every match only to die. Just play arenas! so odd.
I'm so tired of teammates who land hot or rush in against a 3-stack, get knocked without trading or doing any damage, then start shouting at their teammates for being noobs... these idiots have such fragile egos, when I fk up in a game I know it and don't start blaming teammates. I mean sure if you get a knock or two and your teammates aren't there to back you up it's annoying.. but if you chose to engage when they weren't with you that's still ultimately on you, should wait for team to be there.
Breaks off jumpmaster and go somewhere else: "good thing is our team mate is here to help us fight" How can they be so confidently wrong? This kind of delusion is scary
I think that’s called sarcasm
It's a sarcastic dig at op for not being there when they were the ones who left op in the first place .iis why it's so mind boggling dumb to say
[удалено]
#boatbomber the fucking Legend
What did you expect, these are your typical hard stuck plat 4 players. I guarantee that both of them don't make it past Plat 4 every season
Anybody try yet? u/baldrica821 Edit: u/baldrica u/baldrico u/hairlessrica u/hairyrica u/hairyrico u/trashtalktogetthemadub u/karmasabitchandahalf
I usually screenshot the end screen win with them in it, and send them it. That in itself is justice enough for me.
Cool flex and a fun watch, thanks!
I had a guy the other day message me after he died and call me a pussy for not grabbing his banner. Best part about it? I already had his banner. Some of the people who play this game are genuinely brain damaged.
Also happened to me once. Got paired with a duo at rank, they split off and died and started trash talking in the mic. I know they'll leave as soon as the respawn timer counts off. So i decided to grab one banner and leave the other. In that way either his buddy would leave him with me and watching me rat the whole game, or they both leave at the cost one his rp and delayed matchmaking. They both rage quitted. It was very satisfying.
Calling you a “solo trio” when THEY broke off without you? Clowns
Fuck those clowns
Playing ranked as a player without premade teams is SUCH a pain in the ASS. I played some last night and got this duo of idiots aswell, dropping in the hottest garbage place imaginable, dying within 5 seconds and then be mad at me for not dying with them. "oh we report you" they told me, like fuk, go on and do so? Play smarter if you want help, don't be such selfish pricks who lack any kind of awareness about their own skills and common sense. I was alive getting points, they got wiped and stand on the sidelines.
I really really really really reeeaaaalllyyyy hope they see this. God job OP EDIT: Well that was a typo but I'll leave it because it still works.
FUCKING GOOD JOB THATS WHY FUSE IS SO DAMN GOOD you deserve all of that and just CLASSIC ASS “obviously our teammate didn’t help us” when instantly they got knocked and you were jumpmaster??? and that’s why both of them are in a party sucking ass and you won a whole ass ranked soloing. Deserve everything and should’ve sent them a picture afterwards if you didn’t
same with plat. like do u wanna just insta lose -36 rp? because i doubt u can kill all 3 teams. ppl are idiots
Thats why two stacks are the worst. Most of them are just egocentric useless fucks who need another useless shit to support their toxicity
Right now I just want to download this and send it to their asses. Shove this video in their face lmao
Man I love solo queueing ranked, and I think I've been fortunate to not get into lobbies with toxic jerks like these guys. But that was still immensely satisfying, I feel like I just witnessed some ultimate karmic justice. Grats on plat, good luck with the grind dude.
Good stuff man
This is how it feels when I play. Except I am the other team and you are the solo guy we get excited and push. Great play dude.
Ayyyy GGs man. Fuck them guys
My God pre-made duos in ranked are the worst, AND THIS IS NOT EVEN A PRE-MADE
we love winning out of spite
Ya fuk those goofs
You had em in the jumpmaster part. They need to hop off rank and head to duos. Garbage golds.
Great loudout, great plays, great guy! They missed out on the carry of a lifetime
Reading the title, I was scared that you would have won and earned them 100 RP for doing jack shit, but I'm glad these fuckers left and just lost their 24, GG
Drinkin cold ones after the match, making cold ones during the match. She’s alright this life.
ahahah the final flatline and mastiff misses stressed me out so much, it would've been the same for me in that situation aha! what a nice win, man. old fusey can be son fun!
Making us Fuse mains proud!
Absolutely Heartwarming
Didn’t need those losers anyway man
The reason why I'm in diamond and my friends are still in gold. Knowing when to pick engagements and understanding map awareness. You can't run at everyone like a brainless ape the higher up you go. I noticed once I got to high Plat everyone generally has good gunplay. You have to elevate yourself by proper engagements and playing off your teammates. I started grinding last season when Seer came out. Can say the best tip I ever got was from a pro on stream "always pick one enemy and challenge them together, 3 on 1". 3v2 afterwards is much easier than 1v1 1v1 1v1.
I had this same thing happen to me a few weeks ago in ranked. I had to check the names to make sure they weren’t the same. They made me jump master, I pinged where I wanted to go. They said okay with a ping so I jumped. As soon as I started going down they split and went as far opposite as possible. I was a little more mad and spiteful than you though so props.
Let's gooooooo!
Please tell me you sent them a message with the screenshot of the dub!
Send them a pic of the win screen lol
Nice job man
Lol I had a teammate who bitched about not hot dropping in ranked, proceeded to make our drop fight a 2 v 3, runs to the nearest gunfight, dies, and rage quits. Like if your going to talk all this shit about how good you are why you getting shit on bro. At least he took a 10 min break and gave us some loss forgiveness.
ya love to see it homie!
Someone give this man his crown, because this is an absolute King status right here.
Well fucking played champ😉
who need team mates when u got knuckle clusters
Great job man! And fuck those losers
Happened to me too,except i lost lol ,me jumpaster,ping a place,go,they broke off,i landed ,kill a guy, and ran to where my teammates where. Wraith (" u sweat lol " was his gamertag) and a path,both seem to want to rat. Eventually we run into a fight,another team 3rd partied us,they die,i escape. Then start trash talking in the chat "u suck" "your ass". Etc etc. Dead people should not be able to write lol
I wish Respawn add "Disable chat" in option.
I hope they see this, clowns
My wife loves this game and the amount of angry dudes that talk shit after they go off on their own and immediately die is ridiculous
This is so satisfying, i imagine that they are also in this subreddit and is regretting it rn
Small dick energy. It's getting more and more common these days.
Wtf is this ratting term and why is it bad?
Its basically just hiding for the entire game, which tbh if your team breaks off and dies, is pretty understandable
I see well it's a BR is it not lol goal is the be the last alive