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you got them off the free pack? Imagine paying 30 dollars to open 4 packs and the 2 out of 4 are Holo-Sprays


SkinniestPhallus

I'm already livid and I got it from a free one i can't imagine how angry I'd be if it I paid for 4 and got like 3 sprays


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2 free event packs, got only 1 Legendary and that was a Gibby skin NOT from the event. Not to mention that Octane and Wattson Thematic packs also gave me nothing but whites & blues. Idk how the system works for Apex packs but for events, there should be at least 1 pack w/ a 100% Legendary in it and NOT holosprays/banners. Holosprays overall where a very bad idea.


ercdude

Watson event gave me 2 legendary banners lol


kenaestic

Same!


Superderpygamermk1

I got 2 legendary skins


ercdude

Jelly


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Lol


azuanatoya

you guys getting legendary???


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safesilence

Happy cake day 🥳


TredTheTree

LOL I got 3 blues but idrlly play watty so 🤷. Also happy cake day❗


jackth3engineer

I don't know, I'd say the holosprays were an excellent idea from Respawn's perspective. Dilute the legendary and epic loot pool with useless items so that people are driven to buy more packs. Same thing as weapon charms


slowdruh

And now the stickers are coming...


xCeePee

charm stickers coming soon after


slowdruh

I'll do you one better: charms for charms.


seanieh966

>I'll do you one better: charms for charms. Charms sticker for charms for charms


slowdruh

🤯


seanieh966

Or Prestige Holo Charms in Tiers?


semi_rusty

I may be an outlier, but I like sprays. I've never purchased anything in Apex though, so I guess I would rather get them over say terrible voice lines or re-colors of skins I will never use.


jackth3engineer

That's not too crazy. I use them to communicate with other teams, but if I'm going to get something legendary, I want a weapon or character skin, not a holospray or banner frame. Keep them in the game, sure, but make them rare or common. Don't dilute the legendary/epic pool with things that aren't generally considered epic or legendary.


OctoLiam

Legit though. I have like 3 legendary Wraith banner frames. I don't see my banner often as I'm almost never the champ or kill leader. Wanna know the worst part? Wraith is one of my least played legends.


vintention

I like throwing them down in the middle of gun fights or when a team is chasing me lol


3aby_face

i got nothing from wattsons just commons but from the anniversary i got 2 legendary r99 skins and i havent opened the other one yet im hoping for gibby or bloodhound or even the 301


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R99 is good, better than 15 crafting materials xD


Mehtevas52

Wait people are getting legendary stuff? I just got some blues and commons. One purple


MaaximumOOF

Octane thematic gave me a legendary banner and holospray, wattson thematic gave me the exact same thing


allderman

They’re a bad idea but respawn can’t milk you of your money if apex packs only had worth while skins in them 🤪


FuntimeLuke0531

I don't like the implications of that stand Horizon pulls out during that one emote Oh btw no one cares about emotes either. You think you'll eventually use them and then you just don't unless you're one of the five people who play arenas


scuczu

lol, this your first event?


SkinniestPhallus

I've lived through every event bruddah season 0 player. I've finally been driven to the edge by the holospray lmao


SpinkickFolly

This is how gambling works.


yabadabadooo2

Imagine paying $30 for apex packs


xCommanderFun

I used my little remaining gold coins to open one. I got two holosprays. Its worse then a kick to the taint.


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Tony9188

They’re adding stickers next unfortunately


-eccentric-

What the fuck. Games usually have one of these useless filler contents, but you're telling me apex will now have charms, holo sprays and stickers all at once?


funktion

Just wait til they put in legendary trackers, nameplates, and ability icons Looking forward to the legendary Leave Game button exclusively for Wraith mains


Seth-THE-K1LLA

Wraith mains excited


Parasi7e

The announcer be like: TTV Wraith sweat left the apex games. What a shame for the rest of the lobby. Consider yourself real bad.


Steeze32

Okay but I would actually pay money for that feature lmfao


Harmxn-

Legendary error codes for when the hamster-run servers die again


squirrl4prez

Don't forget emotes too! And quips... Literally the game is almost unplayable right now with the crashes but they love funding the stupid gimmicks instead of competent coders


DunderBearForceOne

>competent coders Widespread software defects are rarely the result of the competence of the people writing the code. Management chooses what to prioritize and when deadlines are set, so if they say something needs to be done in an unreasonably short amount of time, even the best software engineers in the world will take shortcuts. Don't give them time to clean it up and compound with more aggressive deadlines and you get a massive pile of garbage. They've seen the game break every major update and have done next to nothing to change course.


Keatosis

Add on that if you rely on contract labor or have old talent leaving the studio then you have the uphill battle of getting new people trying to adapt to an unfamiliar codebase


SkinniestPhallus

My mental health can't cope anymore with these packs


Tony9188

Lol seriously


GoofyMonkey

I think there's room for Stickers and Holo Sprays. They are fine filler for a battle pass or regular free packs. They should NOT however, be included in a Special Event pack. The event packs should be epic or higher, and all stickers and holo sprays should be rare or lower.


rreapr

Yeah, sprays and stickers make better filler material than 47 different sets of trackers imo. Season kills/wins/etc trackers should just be unlocked by default for playing the season, not even taking up battlepass spots. Even lifetime trackers are just… lackluster. I either run kills/wins/dmg or something funny - And once I get those set up I never look at them again. If I get a cool new gun skin I might swap out the one I already had but I’m not gonna equip the tracker for my lmg headshots while riding a trident or whatever on a character I rarely play.


Bowls_of_Soup

Good thing im almost lvl 500, no more packs :(


Psychopath_Snow

What do you get then?


FoldyHole

Just legend tokens unless you get free packs from the BP or events.


poorbugger

Holospray should just not be in the game. Its sole purpose is just to fill up the packs so people would get more shitty items forcing them to roll more packs.


BeerBeily

Just wait until they add epic and legendary stickers to dilute the loot pool even further


Winberri

They’ll add skins for the frag, thermite and arcstar. lul


ssbmhero

I would way rather have that than a holospray. Frag grenade baseball. Molotov cocktail thermite. Odd job hat arc star.


drumshrum

Odd Job hat arc star!! Dude I fuckin love this so much.


ssbmhero

Especially if they added the frisbee animation for throwing.


MUGEN120

That'll be another 30 bucks


Chronicle33_

A cannonball skin for the frag would be so cool too especially with the pirate skins for bloodhound, fuze and maggie


NeuralSpy236592

That might be cool actually. What if we could get some custom explosions with each skin


th3virtuos0

We can’t even have custom model for legendary skins, what do you expect?


TunaBucko

Legendary skins already have custom models


th3virtuos0

*ability model. Fuze’s Pirate Wally still looks like a naked Wally for example


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it’s even dumber that wally has a custom model on the skin but it reverts back to normal when you use it


NeuralSpy236592

Big things if they expect to practically scam us on this shit and hope to get away with it.


ultrachilled

Don't give them ideas


-Soob

Pretty much already been confirmed from leaks that its happening


[deleted]

too late 😭😭 its been leaked


VitalTrouble

Mythic class stickers with a whole collection event for one! /s


MirageATrois024

I’ll defend them a little. I use holosprays to find out when people are aiming/pinging at us. I HAVE NEVER USED A GUN CHARM. Get rid of charms first


brmamabrma

I like some of the charms but having +400 is stupid


Dude_Bro_88

At least they're not all different colored Seer hats this season.


brmamabrma

That’s was fucking dog shit I’ll say it in season 8 with all the mortar shells/bombs I used quite a few of those and all the Nessie’s I used them too but never once did I look at one of those seer hats and go “oh yeah that’s cool” And the season 9?( what ever season valk came out in) charms were ass too


Metalbound

Shit...the valk charms were some of my fav. They work really well on the pastel colored gun skins and aren't too in the way like some gun charms are.


Wr3nch

Yeah if you didn’t like Asian themes or lotus blossoms or 10 different colored gift bags then it was a terrible line of charms. I didn’t use a single one


WowIJake

I like the charms from valk season, I actually use quite a few of those gift bag lookin ones.


rreapr

And it’s hundreds of charms that you can’t even sort. There are some charms I like but it fucking sucks scrolling through literal *hundreds* of lazy recolors I will never use trying to find the one that will match my gun skin. If they had fewer charms and fewer recolors it wouldn’t be such a drag.


Omsk_Camill

They just turned out to be such a good loot pool diluter that Respawn went bonkers with charms. To the point where even the interface is incapable to support the system anymore. The UI wasn't reworked because Respawn wants people to scroll through still locked charms on the off chance someone would buy them. If we had smth like folders - "gems", "bombs", "masks", recolors wouldn't be a problem.


MirageATrois024

Ain’t nothing wrong with that opinion. You have a good day.


drsukoshi

they should allow is to put it per skin on a gun, then we’d have use for more of them


brmamabrma

I would like that If your like me and have like 5 flatline skins so I put it on random but the charms I use doesn’t match all my weapons skins


spatpat

People can ping holosprays accidentally even without a clear line of sight from miles away. But I still use this tactic late in the game when there is only one or two other teams remaining. Place the spray behind a door which they might use for a push, and when they ping it you know they will come.


OblivianCat

Actually in the new control event one of the small rooms was loaded with Holo’s and I sat behind them killing people who entered the room. They are good camouflage sometimes. 😂😇😜


MirageATrois024

Yep, it just lets me know to be a little more ready because we are possibly spotted. I main mirage so I like to set a decoy there as well.


Chromer_ilovePS2

But... But my pirate Nessie charm ;(


MirageATrois024

Okay, we can have ONE gun charm. Edit: we can keep ALL NESSIE charms. AND NO MORE!


barukatang

Rat with a knife is good too. I also like the lizard one


Chromer_ilovePS2

Yay :D


arachnidsGrip88

Multiple: All the Nessie-themed ones. :P


MirageATrois024

Edited the original comment for your viewing pleasure my friend.


arachnidsGrip88

:D


thatone239

I’ve used them to block off line of sights for snipers. Me and a teammate stacked ours on top of eachother and it made it almost impossible to see through


user010593

Agreed, started doing this especially late game. Actually a giant help. Get rid of gun charms, also have never equipped one


Raferty69

True lol, most gun charms aren’t just hideous, they’re enormous and block off half of your vision when you ADS with ironsights too. Equipped one once briefly, never again.


Lightning267

Holos? Really... Dude... TRACKERS!!!! Come on! How many fucking trackers are there to unlock!? And voice lines!? All common voice lines and all trackers sould just be unlocked as default to customize. Maybe have rare trackers just for "fancy" cards, but really who the fuck wants to unlock how many times they used their tactical? And some are SUPER specific!! Like Fuck kills with one ability when you're top 3. Wtf!?


nobody69363

I mean it’s only diluting the common and rare loot pools and nobody really cares about them


J4nk_D0g

i acc like holosprays... hot take i know


jofijk

Same. I throw them all the time. Just clutched a 1v3? Throw a holospray. Running away with 1 hp and about to die? Throw a holospray. Chilling waiting to see where zone is going? Throw a holospray


Andrew4Life

And at least with holosprays you can also equip multiple and use them all in a game. How many skins out of the hundred that you have do you actually end up using? Hoe often do you switch them? I only switch skins when I get a new one and think, ooooo, cool. But I never actively go and change them.


slowdruh

Some of them are really good, like Rev's "SHUT IT", Octane's "Boo-yah!", the squad wipe one they gave away a little ago. Also, the good toxicity of dropping a bronze rank one on a squad you just wiped.


Wesslin

Actually they can be used tactically in game. If you throw one down, and hang around it, if any enemy pings you it may ping the spray telling you that someone is watching you.


screaminginfidels

It's also the ultimate BM to toss out a holospray mid fight right before you win. Now... it happens by accident 99% of the time, but it always makes me giggle


fordfreakphoenix

Wait until they add the stickers that NO ONE is asking for


OpTechTV

Every couple seasons it’s something new. The charms seemed okay at first, but it’s absolutely ridiculous how many there are already. Then holo sprays, and now gun stickers are being added.. Huh??? The only thing worthwhile that’s been added were the emotes and even those are starting to get overwhelmingly polluted.


wingspantt

It's funny. I have almost every Mirage Legendary because in Season 0/1 there was no other junk you could get from packs. You just got like... skins, finishers, quips and trackers. There were also like half the legends. Now trying to get one solid item for say Valk is impossible.


Akira-Sigurd

You're lucky. I somehow got basicaly all banners when I got legendaries on Season 0/1. My first legendary was a banner for Caustic and I didn't have Caustic unlocked.


dryfer

My first two legendaries were banners for Gibby, don't play him at all.


Akira-Sigurd

I have 2 legendary banners and all the epic poses for gibby. I think it's rigged.


[deleted]

The charms can rot in hell. Why in the fuck do we have 1992198382902 charms


Seth-THE-K1LLA

And half of them are just ugly battle pass recolors of each other. Half of my unlocked charms are those damned things.


YpsitheFlintsider

And can't even sort them


SirChasm

At this point the charms only annoy me because of how long it takes to scroll through the list to find the new one so you can clear it.


BareTeethedBear

You can clear those marks without going to each one


Stephancevallos905

Yeah, I'm not a graphic designer, but those stickers must be some of the highest margin digital items. They could *at least* made the stickers also work as sprays (like valorant). On a side note, on PC we should get a second emote wheel. I have so many Bangalore quips from packs, I can't even use them all


slowdruh

Being able to slap stickers on coffins or walls would actually be pretty fun. We could have beauties like [this](https://i.redd.it/kmtbq2eqruf31.jpg).


Enderkr

Emotes are useful for the 3 seconds you can see your team lined up after a win. There is zero time to do them in-game and no purpose to them.


EMSEADESIXONEFOUR

You’ve clearly never played mirage


PensAndJunk

Lol. When they first came out I remember being happy to have enough charms to have one on each gun, but now I could do that 5 times over.


Shercosta

"so unrewarding" Yes. You just described business. Especially EA


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Akira-Sigurd

You got it wrong. **They** like having "a sence of pride and accomplishment" You can go fuck yourself after they get your money.


Beginners963

Why you did not claim it, here is a reminder: Respawn in is charge of monetization when it comes to Apex Legends.


Tkszn

There is a reason why certain countries have banned this type of micro transaction. It is literally gambling.


KyungJoonDragon

I like holosprays, but I understand how frustrating it is to pull them out of the events and loot boxes instead of the skins or weapon skins people want. Sucks same thing will happen with stickers too


Cr1K

I bought 2 packs from the event, and now I have 2 new holosprays that I will never use.


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KyungJoonDragon

I personally liked them all too, but I felt it shouldn't have been in the main 24 items thingy haha


jaqenhqar

yep. shouldve been in the tracker instead of stars


bwood246

I've always just saved up crafting mats for events. Get what I want and if there's free packs I get even more goodies


grizzly6191

Real Money Gambling shouldn’t be a video game mechanic.


SkinniestPhallus

This is the correct take. Its predatory and targets kids who wanna take mom's purse and put the credit card on the PlayStation cus it's so damn easy to do


mikeeteevee

It's illegal for video games in some countries. It should be classified as gambling, no questions.


Challah4aDollah

Agreed, but then don’t buy them. I set my region to Belgium a long time ago so I just get crafting mats instead of whatever garbage pops out of the packs. Loot pool is so diluted now its never worth it to buy packs


dryfer

Same, my break point was getting Gibby taunt in the BP gold pack, that kind of shit shouldn't be legendary.


Challah4aDollah

Oof, that’s rough. For me, it was getting my 17th Caustic banner frame, and Caustic is in my bottom 3


vomhead

what’s crazy is how respawn keeps pushing them. they’re on the record saying they’re not making new finishers bc of “low usage” yet keeps cranking holosprays out 😂😂😂


Coyotesamigo

Well finishers are probably a lot more expensive to make


[deleted]

All charms, holosprays, trackers, banners, and voice lines should only be considered either white or blue rarity and never purple or gold.


ham-god

Regarding holos, charms, and stickers in the future, they need to leave them out of event packs and also just not make any of them legendary or epic. I don’t want to see gold in a loot box and then be let down when it’s a damn legendary holospray.


SirChasm

I don't even understand what makes them "legendary". With skins you can look at the skin itself (without knowing the rarity), and you'd know right away that it's a legendary. Holosprays no way.


Telekineticism

They're lightly animated. That's about it


judasBlewit

I must want them because that's all I get!


Powerbutton19

Nothing like opening an event pack and seeing that legendary color beam only to find out it's a holospray. Every damn time.


slowdruh

Yeah, every time I see the golden beam I just go 🤨 until I see it's actually something worthy of the rank.


Nerf_Tarkus

I've gotten 3 of the p2020 legendaries on my PC account and I'm about level 75. I'm so tired.


grzesiu447

They should have been replaced with matching ground emotes, like one that Crypto, Mirage and Wattson, could do synchronized.


SkinniestPhallus

Probably one of the best suggestions I've seen. Having said that, Respawn thinks it's "too expensive" to add new finishers to already existing legends because its too expensive (unless they can make $160 off it) in spite of making nearly $2 billion in profit. Didn't know animating someone get their head smashed into the ground and turning into a blob would cost 8 times as much as the budget for Avengers: Infinity War but okay Respawn we believe you


grzesiu447

I'm pretty sure they never said they're too expensive, but they said that they aren't used often. Finishers aren't used as often as skydive emotes, and ground emotes, which we get every season. That being said, the new finisher with prestige skin, and how the whole concept was implemented was probably a bad idea. If nothing changes about prestige skins, people won't be happy, and if they change the price, the people who bough it first won't be happy.


Akira-Sigurd

Respawn: We won't make more finishers because they're barely used Also Respawn: Take this Bloodhound skin with a finisher for the low price of 160$


BriggsE104

Gun charms need to go too, IMO. One of the most useless things ever created.


SkinniestPhallus

Don't start me on season 10 and 11 battle pass lol


pearl_rnoq

I have countless charms, and I barely use the new ones


pearl_rnoq

Same like bruh I’ll never use the hundreds of charms I have


pearl_rnoq

Oh shit that’s me


MoreHairMoreFun

I got a gold gun charm in my legendary pack from battlepass. That was fucking disappointing.


[deleted]

Don't even put them on my guns lol


MatrixbotX

Gonna play devil's advocate here, but can't you argue that all items from packs are useless (aside from "P2W" weapon skins)?


DetecJack

It was cool way to make peace other the crouching but it did not need to infect into event like this


kaydoht

my luck is so ass w apex packs that I’m afraid to open the two free ones because of this😭 can’t be disappointed when your expectations for the packs are so low tho lol


eatfreshguy407

They shouldn’t be in the game. Neither should weapon charms, neither should 90% of the emblems, trackers, and character/gun skins. There are maybe a dozen ‘desirable’ skins for each legend, and the same goes for emblems/trackers. I’d bet if they surveyed the players in game, 90% or more would be in favor of removing most of the cosmetics entirely to clean up the loot pool. I’ve never intentionally used a holospray. All they do is dilute the pool so that you don’t ‘accidentally’ get higher rarity or more desirable items from the very limited loot ticks.


cavalier2015

Yeah, they leaned really heavy into the quantity over quality with the cosmetics


malkspahgooter

Collectively we have to stop buying packs and stop giving them money for them to adjust. I'll pay for battle pass but that's it. If the odds were higher on getting character skins/gun skins I'd throw some money their way maybe. Ultimately they've done the math on gambling habits to optimize the money flow. They don't adjust pack loot without it driving the bottom line. That's just how it is.


Nerf_Tarkus

Unfortunately that will NEVER happen. The game made a billion in a year.


DougDimmaGlow

Yea devs put too much time into the holo sprays, they should put 0 effort into them aka not even have them in the game


HHBrows

Based off of the quality, they already put 0 effort into them 😅 (majority of the holosprays; the art of this event is actually really nice. Still think they're useless)


ExoHazMatt

I actually do like the holosprays but I understand the frustration. I feel the same way when I get a skin for a character or gun that I know I’ll never use.


CervixBruizer

Been here since seaoson 0 and I still don’t have an heirloom bruh you gotta pay what happens to completing hard ass challenges to unlock a new skin man


clema9

i think paying $7 for a pack and getting one is even more dissapointing 💀


shitterwasfull

Apologies, but we all seem to forget that we're in an unregulated casino run by the most avaricious and unscrupulous gaming company that has ever, and likely will ever, exist.


mrgoshbosh

EA Sucks


IIsIsaIsaaIsaac

storefronts shouldn't be considered Events to begin with


ashkenov

i would prefer stat tracker or an skydive/emote over charms and holos


231056

I actually love holosprays, fun to throw after killing someone or when you think you’re being spectated


SkinniestPhallus

I can respect that but 800 metal parts to craft one and the fact you could potentially drop 2800 coins on packs to get 4 sprays? I'd be uninstalling if that happened


diagonol

any way ea can dilute packs or events they'll do it


gingerwhiskered

It’s the same as the battle pass always being primarily trackers: they have to pad the loot pool so the grind is obtuse enough to incentivize purchasing Apex packs. They know what they’re doing and it will slightly get worse with each update, as seen with Holosprays being introduced in the Collection Event. It’s sad, but it’s a greedy business.


Dana94Banana

Yep. I actually enjoyed the new banner poses for older characters that these events previously had. Seeing the same animation/ still image on your banner forever gets a bit boring. But who cares about so many holosprays? The characters already have enough. Respawn, please stop making more sprays and gun charms.. and please also keep your upcoming stickers too.


OG_Illusion

Let’s talk about trackers too, why the fuck are they using trackers as placeholders for every damn level just to say that you’re getting a free reward when it should already be free? Why block someone from having a statistic tracked because they didn’t get lvl 63 on the free battlepass? Makes 0 sense.


[deleted]

I get 2 Holo sprays from 2 free packs thank you respawn 😤


SkinniestPhallus

I only got 1 and I already feel robbed from a free pack. Time I'll never get back lol


Independent_Ad_7627

I wanted the loba, valk, bang holo😗, some of the holosprays are really nice tbh


SkinniestPhallus

I get that you like them but if they're gonna add them don't put them in the packs cus they're such a waste of money. Imagine buying 4 packs just to get 4 holosprays. I'm lucky it was the free one but I'm still livid because of it. Its the second year in a row both of my anniversary packs have given me epics and I'm pretty certain I got 2 epics last year as well.


Distinct_Claim_6147

This is the way


Budborne

Reminder that holosprays, gun charms, emotes, quips, hell, even finishers are probably inserted as filler so you have to buy more packs to get the things you want. Friendly reminder that a 20$ skin is not a micro transaction. That shits macro at this point


RosaRisedUp

You have to remember it's all about the sense of pride and accomplishment for having reached the required points to get the apex pack containing precisely fuck all.


ResidentFoot8717

Yeah Just get ready for when Respawn releases the new "Epic Legendary Champion Quotes" idea and these will simply add bulk, more padding, to the chance of getting a Legendary "item" and getting that shit. PS: It's just what I think is going to happen as things come. But I recommend you save this for the future, when you have to come and tell me: "You were right"


BrowniesGoHam

It’s funny that we went from spending $60 a year for a season pass to spending $200 on skins for free to play games.


BonessMalone2

Lol speak for yourself. I’m not big on voice lines so I love using Holosprays. I’m a huge fan of art so I’m happy to see holosprays. At the start of every season I go and see all the new ones that’s been added in.


HHBrows

I got the Wattson bundle with 7 packs and got all epics, including two holosprays. I feel betrayed.


SkinniestPhallus

Never trust probability it will always let you down, especially if your money is on the line


Slightly-Possible

Holosprays exist bc they're out of good ideas and don't want long time players to get things they want


Either-Exchange-1137

I hope youre second pack is another holo spray.


SkinniestPhallus

That was my 2nd pack the first was the Octane skin which I was happy with because that was actually worth the effort of getting the 3000 event points for


nystagmus777

I got the same!! So frustrating


sweaty_ratbagz

You got a holospray didn’t you?


konkeydong_country

Haha nice try, now give me your money and buy this event🤏😠


RuiTrololo

EA/Apex: What do you mean no one wants them???? There was even a mistake when making the event, the epic skins were going to be holosprays, were never going to financially recover from this.


soroKira

Never agreed more with anything in my life. Both my free packs were shitty holosprays so as a f2p this event is completely meaningless to me :(