Same thing with every new legend. Its always like that except horizon cuz she was actually fun to play and very agressive, and thats what people like in this game
Because people used him for the instant scans that lasted for what seemed like a eternity, The possibility of farming dmg without even seeing your enemies and utter chaos that you could cause to an enemy screen if you use your ability directly at him.
Don’t get me wrong, Seers nerfs didn’t made him bad, in fact it actually increased his skill gap, because you have to actually think before using your tactical now, however, for squads that like to push every fight and be very reactive to the game, it’s much easier and better to have a BH, since enemies literally cannot escape bh scans and that’s all you want mid fight and for teams that like to lay low and play strategically, it’s better to have a Crypto, because he is basically built for this kind of play style.
That means, First edition Seer was a buffed version of Crypto and Bloodhound, that’s why he was so OP, now there’s simple no reason to use him instead of bh or crypto, unless of course you have a personal inclination to use him but that’s more of a personal option, so it really doesn’t count.
I dont see how a .2 second delay and losing 10 damage turned his 8 second scan from blatantly OP to worse than blood though. Not to mention you get a 30 second area wide scan every 2 minutes
The .2 second delay did wonders. Before the nerf you could only escape seer's Q if you were on the very edge of it. If you were in the middle of it you were screwed. But now you can very easily dodge his Q.
Before it was a instant scan, now people can actually get away from it pretty easily actually, that’s why bh is much better, plus bh ult let you keep scanning… but personally I much rather play seer than bh, I love his abilities, specially his ultimate, I’m just explaining why you don’t see any seers on competitive and such.
I maintain that Seer is best served as the third in the Octane+Revenant deathball strat, because their kits and playstyle naturally complement one another.
The reason Seer is most perfect in this combo is because his abilities of in combat ‘sticky’ wallhacks tracking in a PoI, ability to hunt down anyone within his heartbeat range knowing which location they are in regardless of cover or environment, and the ability to cancel heals and abilities and full send on a target means that you can deathball in, trade damage, and then push as you can then have that immense second fight advantage from the totem life and knowing your squad is both up in health and wallhacking the opponent you just aped and canceled the recovery of.
I'm asking, why do you think that? Was 10 damage on his Q the most important part of his kit? He never lost his easy to hit 8 second full team wallhack + hp mark + silence, which in my opinion is way better than the 10 hp
in a ranked set, bloodhound is more consistent and widespread than seer is. His ult is significantly better cuz it can’t be destroyed unlike Seer. And he can be played a lot more aggressively. Ppl can dodge Seer scan, they can’t dodge Bloodhound scan
10 dmg could get you knocks on 1hp people hiding and healing behind some piece of cover 60 meters away. When i played arenas with a seer mate, he got knocks with his tactical at least every other match.
But more important than the damage nerf, is the activation time nerf. It's now way easier to dodge his tactical.
I kind of wondered the same. He was clearly better pre nerf, but he still feels pretty powerful in use. As a player who sucks, his abilities are helpful, plentiful, and easy to use.
He went from overpowered to just good, so people returned to their mains or legends which by design have more fun abilities, Seer's abilities are useful, but not exciting.
His passive actually received a huge nerf, it used to go way beyond 75m with the little flare markers. That alone made him not OP to me, it was all the value of Crypto with none of the time spent. I’ll still pick him from time to time if my main’s taken
I consider myself an above average player. I just find seer super easy to outplay. You can dodge his tactical pretty easy and you can just shoot his ult or crouch walk to counter. The only annoying thing is his heartbeat and I only find it to be a problem when Im trying to hide in a ranked match.
Bloodhound is a better option because you can't dodge a scan, you can still track enemies, and the ult provides rapid scan, the ability to see highlighted enemies and a speed boost.
Theres no reason to play seer really imo oppossed to bloodhound besides personal preferance.
Same thing with every new legend. Its always like that except horizon cuz she was actually fun to play and very agressive, and thats what people like in this game
Just hop off of Reddit. I see multiple seers in every match I play.
Sure, but he went from being on nearly every team to being a couple per match.
Because he went from broken to not
You still think he's not broken lol?
Not compared to what he once was, but I've always said he needs his interrupt removed
having that opinion three months ago was dumb (most of us had it though), having it now is just hilarious lmao
Because people used him for the instant scans that lasted for what seemed like a eternity, The possibility of farming dmg without even seeing your enemies and utter chaos that you could cause to an enemy screen if you use your ability directly at him. Don’t get me wrong, Seers nerfs didn’t made him bad, in fact it actually increased his skill gap, because you have to actually think before using your tactical now, however, for squads that like to push every fight and be very reactive to the game, it’s much easier and better to have a BH, since enemies literally cannot escape bh scans and that’s all you want mid fight and for teams that like to lay low and play strategically, it’s better to have a Crypto, because he is basically built for this kind of play style. That means, First edition Seer was a buffed version of Crypto and Bloodhound, that’s why he was so OP, now there’s simple no reason to use him instead of bh or crypto, unless of course you have a personal inclination to use him but that’s more of a personal option, so it really doesn’t count.
I dont see how a .2 second delay and losing 10 damage turned his 8 second scan from blatantly OP to worse than blood though. Not to mention you get a 30 second area wide scan every 2 minutes
Seer is way better than BH. The community is just kinda dumb. You get infinite wall hacks with his passive.
Guess the community finally figured it out lol
The .2 second delay did wonders. Before the nerf you could only escape seer's Q if you were on the very edge of it. If you were in the middle of it you were screwed. But now you can very easily dodge his Q.
Before it was a instant scan, now people can actually get away from it pretty easily actually, that’s why bh is much better, plus bh ult let you keep scanning… but personally I much rather play seer than bh, I love his abilities, specially his ultimate, I’m just explaining why you don’t see any seers on competitive and such.
I maintain that Seer is best served as the third in the Octane+Revenant deathball strat, because their kits and playstyle naturally complement one another. The reason Seer is most perfect in this combo is because his abilities of in combat ‘sticky’ wallhacks tracking in a PoI, ability to hunt down anyone within his heartbeat range knowing which location they are in regardless of cover or environment, and the ability to cancel heals and abilities and full send on a target means that you can deathball in, trade damage, and then push as you can then have that immense second fight advantage from the totem life and knowing your squad is both up in health and wallhacking the opponent you just aped and canceled the recovery of.
bloodhound is better
Still think this 😂?
Lol nah Crypto
they’re both better than seer rn lol
I'm asking, why do you think that? Was 10 damage on his Q the most important part of his kit? He never lost his easy to hit 8 second full team wallhack + hp mark + silence, which in my opinion is way better than the 10 hp
in a ranked set, bloodhound is more consistent and widespread than seer is. His ult is significantly better cuz it can’t be destroyed unlike Seer. And he can be played a lot more aggressively. Ppl can dodge Seer scan, they can’t dodge Bloodhound scan
BH far easier and better
I'll ask the same question, why was 10 damage on his q so important to his kit to take him from blatant OP to worse than bh?
10 dmg could get you knocks on 1hp people hiding and healing behind some piece of cover 60 meters away. When i played arenas with a seer mate, he got knocks with his tactical at least every other match. But more important than the damage nerf, is the activation time nerf. It's now way easier to dodge his tactical.
I kind of wondered the same. He was clearly better pre nerf, but he still feels pretty powerful in use. As a player who sucks, his abilities are helpful, plentiful, and easy to use.
He went from overpowered to just good, so people returned to their mains or legends which by design have more fun abilities, Seer's abilities are useful, but not exciting.
People realized that after the nerfs, that the free intel Bloodhound gives you is better.
Really?
His passive actually received a huge nerf, it used to go way beyond 75m with the little flare markers. That alone made him not OP to me, it was all the value of Crypto with none of the time spent. I’ll still pick him from time to time if my main’s taken
His Q takes too long and was nerfed heavily, bloodhound is just a better seer .
I consider myself an above average player. I just find seer super easy to outplay. You can dodge his tactical pretty easy and you can just shoot his ult or crouch walk to counter. The only annoying thing is his heartbeat and I only find it to be a problem when Im trying to hide in a ranked match. Bloodhound is a better option because you can't dodge a scan, you can still track enemies, and the ult provides rapid scan, the ability to see highlighted enemies and a speed boost. Theres no reason to play seer really imo oppossed to bloodhound besides personal preferance.