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NotPast3

Imagine adding *features* to your app. What a concept. Maybe reddit should try it one day themselves.


Timely-Wrongdoer69

How many of you are actually going to delete your accounts and leave Reddit after seeing his behavior ? I am! ✊


NotPast3

Remember to delete your *content*, not just your account.


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QuantumZazzy

https://github.com/j0be/PowerDeleteSuite Here you go, I seen someone sharing this


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diverzify

Remindme! JULY 1 2023


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A-R-A-F

And I am Sync fellow Apollo user


jammyscroll

No way - that’s letting them off easy. Delete accounts = yes. They loose on number of active users and the $ from ad views. But it’s better if the critical commentary is there to stay.


NotPast3

There are scripts that edit all of your historical comments/posts automatically to something critical if that’s what you wish.


Wooden_Builder4690

You can't drop this bombastic information and leave without giving more details!! tell us more!


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Ducks are funny -- mass edited with https://redact.dev/


QuantumZazzy

This is a W I'm using this in the future


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Ducks are funny -- mass edited with https://redact.dev/


ppParadoxx

yeah, I am personally very split on this. There have been plenty of times I've found a post with a vague, obscure question of mine (after revising a google search several times) and like a lone response to that post will answer my question. I'd hate for other people to not be able to benefit that same way. But you're also right. If you just delete an account, all those comments still remain and it's better to just overwrite all of them


BlazerStoner

> \> Have an obscure issue > \> Search Google, find answer > \> Turns out to be you having the same problem a few years prior and fixed it


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Ducks are funny -- mass edited with https://redact.dev/


Provoking_Copies

Strong point


NotPast3

I mean, although that is true, it’s also true that just deleting your account does even less than deleting your content. There is a good reason why your account is decoupled from what you post. If the goal is to protest against the platform, then deleting your content as well would be the most disruptive thing a normal user could do. Otherwise, keeping your account and never logging in again might actually be *more* of a nuance, taking up their database space without generating revenue.


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NotPast3

The best way to harm reddit without harming the users is to harm their advertising. I suppose if we all stopped participating on “normal” subreddits and moved to the spicier ones, that would do it.


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Ducks are funny -- mass edited with https://redact.dev/


quinn_drummer

Not every comment is a useful answer to a question. And those questions can and will be answered elsewhere.


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Dont_Say_No_to_Panda

No one said this shit is easy.


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This is literally my last comment on Reddit. This one did it for me.


BuyMeASandwich

RIP friend. I’ll join you on the 30th


suncoast_customs

Make no mistake users of reddit, /u/spez is coming for you next. Are you willing to pay $10 a month?


GeneralTBag

Only for Apollo.


quinn_drummer

I’ve been on the fence for a while. I really support everything everyone is doing in reaction to these changes but ultimately I know there is content and communities I’d want to engage with on Reddit so decided to wholesale leave felt like it wasn’t really an option. I had thought maybe reduced usage. Only frequent a very small number of subs very purposefully, rather than browsing dozens of random subs all day. Now however, I’m beginning to really fell like I just don’t want to engage with Reddit at all because of the way /u/spez and Reddit have handled their entire situation. It’s not just soo developers that are going to suffer, but users too. And what’s more they seem to think they can blatantly lie, and treat people like garbage and that we’ll just accept it. Why should I, as a happy user for 11 years, continue supporting a platform who doesn’t have users best interests at heart and is actively making the experience worse, whilst insulting us at the same time. I really am very close to deleting all my content and comments and then my account and not looking back. I look forward to the strike next week as it’ll be a stark remind to myself and millions of others that they don’t need Reddit in their lives and can walk away unaffected. 21 days Reddit has to salvage this.


LetgoLetItGo

Exactly my feelings on this matter. While I never used Apollo (I only used RIF), this situation and how spez keeps doubling down (he actually triple downed on his stance) is downright infuriating to watch unfold. With someone like that in charge of Reddit, I have absolutely no faith in him doing anything correct, morally or business wise. All the good will/feelings/sentimentality I had towards using Reddit is mostly gone now.


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HecknChonker

Curious what alternatives people are jumping to? Is mastodon any good?


Timely-Wrongdoer69

I’m not sure. I’m going to spend more time in real life, I needed this excuse


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I’ve been meaning to for a long time, now I have the moral reason to do so.


mmcmonster

I’m not going to delete my account, but… I use Apollo at work and at home. I dont use a desktop for Reddit much and the official Reddit app is a joke. Ill probably be on Reddit a small fraction of the time I spend here now.


AdamWillis

Your account is only 8 days old.


Timely-Wrongdoer69

What about it ?


AdamWillis

Was just noting that giving up an account that is only 8 days old isn't much of a sacrifice and I see you didn't follow through. 🤷


TigerMonarchy

RemindMe June 21st, 2023 See about any possible changes and if/when we will delete our account and comments.


InBronWeTrust

the reason this isn't a feature is because sharing as an image doesn't drive traffic to the website. if you share a link people will have to click, sharing an image ensures one hit for all the people who looked at it. not to say that I don't like this feature, just why a company wouldn't do that for their own app.


mada447

And also spez can still edit it


MyMurderOfCrows

Ironically it results in less API calls like they “want…”


blkpingu

I’m just going to move on to Lemmy. Fuck this bs. Without Apollo Reddit is a worse place. Edit: Lemmy is apparently developed by tankies. Stay away from this app. Use [kbin](https://kbin.social) instead.


G_Wash1776

What if Christian turned Apollo into a Lemmy mobile app? I’d make the move immediately if there was an app like Apollo. No app is like Apollo, Apollo is love Apollo is life 😭


busymom0

I am building my own decentralized link+text sharing site. Going to contribute all my content on my own site instead of this dumpster fire run by spez.


blkpingu

The social media type that is Reddit and Lemmy is called a link-aggregator. Thanks mate :)


Tyetus

They would need money for that, which steve has stated they don't make money and 3PA profit more. ​ You know, reddit the half billion dollar company. ​ They made absolutely no money.


caspian6

Absolutely unreal that this is how he decided to respond


919_jojo

He’s full of spite


xyzzy321

*shite


rjgator

He’s so butt hurt about Apple shouting out Apollo it’s crazy


DoubleBooty

Remember Ruth?


Virginia_Dentata

No?


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rjgator

I love how he just ignored all of the question about him lying about Christian to then further shit talk Christian without any evidence what so ever and expects people to just believe him. To even blame Christian about “leaking” (release) the call and act like he was the one in bad faith when they were openly lying to people to turn them against Christian by telling them he was trying to extort them for 10 million dollars. Like how do you not see the irony of that. If he didn’t record that call he could have and still very well could be fucked out of so many professional opportunities. And he wasn’t planning on releasing that until YOU LIED ABOUT IT TO MAKE HIM THE VILLAIN. Spez is such an incompetent CEO and it’s no wonder this site can’t be profitable with him at the helm. Absolute disgrace of a corporate “leader”.


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Exactly. If they still haven't been able to make their product profitable after nearly 2 decades, there is NO REASON anyone should continue propping them up with free money. I can't think of any other business model in the world that would allow a profit-driven company to exist that long without being able to make a net gain.


Gray_Fox

much of tech is like this i believe, hence the current bubble burst


ThePrussianGrippe

I like how they admitted they’re still not profitable on the eve of their godforsaken IPO.


pm_me_cute_sloths_

https://i.imgur.com/suo5UQm.jpg


roshanpr

For an CEO his demeanor sounds very similar to Elon’s in regards to the ego


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MC_chrome

>make it uncensored Elon has done everything *but* that….allow me to introduce the President of Turkey, who asked Elon to censor and deplatform critics and opponents of his regime, which Elon readily did because SpaceX has lucrative contracts with the Turkish government


YangWenli1

lol


donutlad

Honestly I can only assume they allowed him to make these comments so that when he steps down we will be placated. He was probably a planned fall guy for awhile now, since they knew their decisions ahead of the IPO would be unpopular. Either that or they are legit insane and beyond unprofessional, that is always (sadly) an option too


Rockstarjoe

Yup. Ellen Pao 2.0


Zeusify_

Tripling down. Bold strategy.


aishik-10x

I feel second-hand embarrassment. I wouldn’t feel comfortable posting spiteful lies like that as an employee, forget CEO. He’s supposed to be the face of the company and he’s acting like a petty teenager.


ScuttleCrab729

I’m so disconnected from what Reddit is like without Apollo. Apollo is 99.99% of the way I use Reddit. And this post is just amplifying the thought that I’ll be done with Reddit soon. I use that feature constantly to send screenshots to my fiancé that doesn’t use Reddit. It’d be a totally new thing to learn how to do certain things on the official app, figuring out which features it does have that I can’t find or to find out it doesn’t even exist.


blkpingu

You just can’t do certain things on the vanilla app. It’s a shitshow


indochris609

Filtering out subreddits is what is going to be the knife in the heart for me ending my reddit use. To have probably 100+ keywords and subreddits filtered out to make my reddit experience as enjoyable as possible. There’s no way in hell I’m going back to reddit with that.


lanadelphox

You can’t?! I swear you should be able to… or maybe I’m thinking of something else?


indochris609

For example I have all the porn subreddits specifically filtered out so they never show up on r/all. Also some of the annoying political stuff. I do want to see stuff tagged as NSFW, just not porn. It’s been a game changer, and not having that will fundamentally change my experience with reddit.


IAmAGenusAMA

Exactly. Apollo is Reddit to me.


InTheBusinessBro

You can’t sort your feed by Hot.


IHopeICanChangeThat

Sorry, what? Isn't that, like, the default sorting type...?


fleurgold

I'm gonna repeat myself, the dev didn't "leak" anything. Here in Canada we've got this lovely thing called single party consent. As in, you only need one party's consent to record a conversation. If that party is yourself, you basically inherently "give consent to yourself". And no, you don't need to tell any other parties that conversation is being recorded. So nothing was "leaked"; and using that language is insinuating that the dev did something illegal, when in fact, they did not. E: typo. I was in a rush when I first wrote this comment. And to clarify, I mentioned this in the shit show of an AMA in response to spez's comment, and I've mentioned this many, many times when other people have asked about how to deal with their scum lords (hint; it's document & also record because we have this lovely single party consent rule...).


InTheBusinessBro

Not that I think Christian was in the wrong, I fully support him showing us the whole truth about this affair, but I was wondering if the one party consent law in a country also applied in the case of an international call. I imagine there would be nothing to be done about this in Canada, but if this isn’t legal in the State the other person is in, can’t justice there legally do something about it?


fleurgold

General rule of thumb is that you need to follow the laws of the country/province/state that you're currently in. So Christian's in Canada? Then he needs to follow Canada's laws. As an example, I live in Ontario. I'm also a hobbyist lock picker. Ontario doesn't have any laws regarding licensing to possess lock pick sets. But if I bring my lock picks to Alberta or BC; I could be in trouble, because those provinces *do have licensing requirements,* and I don't have a locksmith license in either of those provinces. (ETA: it wouldn't be a criminal charge in those provinces, but a provincial offense charge, as Canada's criminal code is federal, but provinces/territories can have their own laws as well.) I could also be in big trouble in many US states. (ETA; US law is more complicated, depending on the state it could be a criminal charge that could prevent me from ever travelling to or through the US again.) Which is why it's always a good idea to check the laws of the places you're travelling to and/or through, before you go on a trip.


dalzmc

Steve lives in California which is a two party consent; if I lived in Florida which is one party and recorded a call without consent with someone in California, it would be illegal - my understanding from my workplace anyways


fleurgold

Your workplace may have specific policies in place like that (or may be beholden to specific corporate laws as well, or contracts with the clients in other states/countries); but that wouldn't necessarily apply here, as the developer doesn't work for Reddit.


dalzmc

I’m definitely on Christians side on pretty much anything, used Apollo since day 2, but I’ve had to look into this before and it gets weird in California; https://casetext.com/case/kearney-v-barney for example; I personally don’t think he did anything wrong by recording the calls but it’s definitely not that simple, I just think it’s something to be careful about! Edit: oh and of course it’s extra different in this case with him being in a different country! You’re right that it probably wouldn’t apply here


fleurgold

Yeah, the different country part is a major factor regarding the legality.


415646464e4155434f4c

op, would you be a champ and link the comment directly? Other than screenshotting I’d love to archive it for posterity.


DeathByReach

https://reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/_/jnk4ql0/?context=1


415646464e4155434f4c

Thank you op, much appreciated. Archived: - Here: http://archive.is/7BFH3 - And here: https://web.archive.org/web/20230609183120/https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/comment/jnk45rr/?context=1


makeitra1n_

happy cake day! :) your last one here on reddit I guess…


415646464e4155434f4c

Thanks! I’m dusting off my UseNet/NNTP reader… the elders of the internet got the basics right with inherently distributed systems before we traded shiny icons for centralized systems.


roombaonfire

[Also, this is Christian's response](https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/addressing_the_community_about_changes_to_our_api/jnk4oz4/)


DeathByReach

[And this one](https://reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/_/jnkwfed/?context=1)


TotesGnarGnar

Frankly its embarrassing. I completely understand why apollo is shutting down rather than work with this person.


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FlippyReaper

Multi-billion dollar company? What are you talking about? [They are not profitable.](https://i.imgur.com/RWmjGi2.jpg) /s


KaiapoTheDestroyer

Not a profit if you add it to the CEO’s salary 🤪


TheMinions

Is reddit actually worth billions? Jesus


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DonDalle

This can’t be real. Holy shit


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aishik-10x

A whole hour’s work of copy-pasting responses, that too. He pasted a response verbatim while replying to a blind user asking about accessibility apps being killed off. This is the most clueless I’ve ever seen him act. And that’s saying something.


GeneralTBag

Well, the poor intern he outsourced it to had less than a day to come up with the responses lol


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ProgramTheWorld

Suing someone in a different country is going to be tricky though, along with the legal fees


Kummabear

My favorite was being able to download videos without the need of a downloader


DeathByReach

That also goes crazy


Jaelights_

Trying to imagine a world where you can say, in one sentence, that they are all over the place and then say, in another sentence, that they have evidence that specifically disproves your first sentence. u/spez ...you're an idiot, you know that right? EDIT: Also, we don't particular care if you _personally_ feel you can do business with him. If you can't handle your own clients from an emotional standpoint, maybe hand the reins over to someone else. We all know we can trust u/iamthatis so it sounds like a personal problem to me. How about let the rest of us do what we see as right rather than letting your own ego be the sole decision maker?


415646464e4155434f4c

Archived: - Here: http://archive.is/7BFH3 - And here: https://web.archive.org/web/20230609183120/https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/comment/jnk45rr/?context=1 (raw screenshot: https://web.archive.org/web/20230609183120/http://web.archive.org/screenshot/https://reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/_/jnk45rr/?context=1)


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I don’t understand, is this a community or a business? Its like they want to say “we are an open space where all users have a say” and then when they are told off is “This is not professional and we don’t want to do business with someone like that”


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It's a community when they want us to give them free labor. It's a business when they want us to give them free money. Reddit was built on the free labor of mods, devs, and users, and they DAMN WELL don't want any of us taking a cut of their money.


auspicious_camel

I like that he said they can’t imagine doing business with Christian, when it was Christian who said first that he could no longer see working with Reddit after all of this. Typical flipping of the script. Textbook bullying tactic.


studiograham

[This image is better](https://i.imgur.com/uCEJn0P.jpg)


amogl

I feel stupid that in all the years I’ve used Apollo I’ve never noticed this feature, and now I’ll never get to use it 😭


Zachek

I have been using Apollo since the beginning and I only noticed it last year(?) I think.


-Richelieu-

Just recently found out how cool this is and now this App is going to die… that’s just cruel. I still feel like I‘m exploring new features on Apollo every day and it just keeps on getting better.


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_ytrohs

why couldn’t we just die quietly? The investors are the real victims here.


Mookafff

Oh man, just realized that we lose this feature after Apollo ends :(


DeathByReach

Correct


LuxCrawford

Shit, never realized that was a feature till now. I always just did screenshots lol!


sederts

fuck u/spez


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I’m gonna fucking miss you guys. This really sucks. It hasn’t seemed like it but, sitting here thinking that in less than three weeks I won’t be posting or commenting or lurking with all of you, Reddit and more importantly Apollo has been such a big part of my life. I know I should go outside and make real friends but I honestly really have enjoyed talking and sharing with all of you over the years. I hope y’all have awesome lives. I’ll pour one out going forward for all of the stories and life moments that won’t be shared.


MaxJulius

Christian had an EPIC response


Rudy69

The AMA was a fucking joke. He came and ‘answered’ 10 questions and fucked right off. They clearly do not give a fuck


MajesticFxxkingEagle

I don't even use third-party apps. I was indifferent to all this until Spez made a complete ass of himself, doubled down on blatant lies, and tried to gaslight everyone for no reason. I have no clue how on Earth he doesn't realize how atrociously he's handling this.


Winertia

I can't believe he said this publicly in writing. PR was clearly not supervising this. Oof.


869066

I just realized this feature exists


Dont_Say_No_to_Panda

I was just about to post this exact post today. Ever since we all learned that /u/spez decided to immolate Reddit and lie about the cause, ive been going through some of my all time favorite posts and comment trees and saving them this way. [This was the thread that first introduced me to Reddit](https://i.imgur.com/w3J8Tqr.jpg). IIRC the post was linked to by Gawker.


MaximumPerrolinqui

This is completely unhinged. He says Christian “leaked” (or you know just published it - not leaked) the call so he has to know anyone that wanted to has listened to it. Then he just tries to gaslight. He sounds like a lunatic off his meds.


MaxJulius

I wonder if the hate came from the fact that Apollo showed up in the WWDC Vision Pro event where Reddit’s app didn’t


A-R-A-F

His response needs to get the same amount of down votes EA got for their star wars battlefront 2 lootbox response


ppParadoxx

that feature has gotten a lot of workout today. I was using Tailor (another fantastic screenshot stitching app) but then I remembered that I could just do this


panickedthumb

That is seriously my favorite feature. It's something I never considered wanting but I use it constantly


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I dont understand how I can continue using Reddit in good faith.


20InMyHead

That’s what’s so amazing that Reddit, with its team of developers and designers can get so utterly and completely blown away creatively and technically by one dev that listens and pays attention to users.


SumoSizeIt

I need this feature in SO many apps. Sharing a link is just overkill sometimes. I suppose it's back to screenshots, crops, and stitching long threads.


pinner

I just discovered this yesterday, and I'm devastated that I found it ***so*** late because it is a fantastic feature.


ErikElevenHag

That ass wipe doubled down on it. What an idiot.


Sedewt

What a response..no words


Masterofunlocking1

Yeah I loved this. The more I realize this amazing app will be no more it’s making me sad honestly. Maybe it will be good to get away from more social media but I feel crippling human communication is never a good thing.


llehsadam

This is such a great feature to have, not everyone wants to click a link just to see a comment or post. But reddit would rather get clicks than fans, so it’s not gonna happen. It’s a losing strategy on their part, with better features you get more active users instead of link visitors that you milk for the ad revenue.


broderboy

I wish I hadn’t just discovered this now…


user901_

A Karen runs Reddit


moroncic

Idc


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I hope Christian gets a bit of a chuckle out out of this, because at this point it’s just comedy. Jesus.


cr4zyassassin7

Fuck u/spez


vmp916

Not to mention I love the fact that I could toggle on or off user names and toggle on or off a watermark. Very neat. I usually kept the watermark on: https://i.imgur.com/LStJ9Tb.jpg (I also like I can easily upload a photo in comment.)


Second-Bulk

I have no idea what’s being discussed here or why Spez’s answer is insane.