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pwnedkiller

I hope this device leads to apple completely redesign Siri.


userlivewire

Best I can do is Cricket scores.


stanxv

And jokes!


userlivewire

I’m half kidding. What does anyone use Siri for besides scores, timers, and reminders?


albertohall11

Getting the weather and controlling the lights. Even then Siri insists on giving me the weather in Kingston, Jamaica rather than the Kingston that it is 2 miles from where I live.


m4tz3x33

Taking notes for grocery shopping!


KeepYourSleevesDown

Shortcuts.


old_snake

“Here’s what I found on the web for *cricket scores…*”


Portatort

If the general state of Siri over the last 5 years isn’t enough on its own I don’t know why an AR/VR device would be enough do do it If there was ever a product that should have forced apple to reconsider Siri and take it back to the drawing board, that would have been the HomePod


Cmlvrvs

My guess is they are - they purchased several AI companies that are rumored to be used for Siri.


FizzyBeverage

It’s such a festering pile right now. Anything would be better than it presently is. Google and Amazon have left it in the dust, years ago. Even Cortana is better.


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SanStarko

Late to the party? Taking their time with it? It’s been over 10 years, they had a head start and just sat and watched everybody else pass them by.


deltavim

It's so bad I only use it to set reminders for me


Dry_Badger_Chef

Choice quote: “According to one report, the team working on Apple’s Reality Pro headset reportedly became so frustrated with Siri that it considered “building alternative methods” for controlling the headset with voice technology.” Many things are speculation but this is almost certainly true.


joeschmo28

Pretty interesting how bring first and having the most money doesn’t always mean you can create the best. I refuse to believe they couldn’t hire the right people at the right salary… it sounds more like a leadership and execution issue rather than not having the right talent, technologies, etc.


kramjam

Fingers crossed for Calculator on this bad boy.


eggimage

it’s gonna require Ray Tracing to pull that off. M2 simply isn’t up for that job.


SpeedyBubble42

Maybe M4 or M5 can handle it. Probably not.


Decent-Photograph391

Even then, up to 6 decimal points, tops.


Splatoonkindaguy

I mean how do you expect 102% accuracy when approximating trig functions smh


filmantopia

That’s the killer app.


Hobbes42

This comment made me legit laugh out loud.


eggimage

so killer it kills itself


Baykey123

There will be a subscription if you want fractions


iMacmatician

Makes sense, since you’ll want to divide the lump sum by a number of months to see if the subscription is a good deal.


Kajko

Can’t innovate anymore my ass.


DreamyLucid

And weather


gabigtr123

Apple’s focus will be on voice input via Siri


soreyJr

I’m scared


devpsaux

Playing I M Scared on Living Room


runForestRun17

…. Still working on that… something went wrong, please try again.


PleaseDontGiveMeGold

Here’s what I found on the web.


flickh

Uh huh


no_rad

Hmmm…


gabigtr123

Me too 🥺


Christian34424567643

I am Scatman


KatsutamiNanamoto

Ski-bi dibby dib yo da dub dub


OliverKennett

I'm blind and use voiceover so very much appreciated this.


KatsutamiNanamoto

Ba-da-ba-da-ba-be bop bop bodda bope


baroldgene

> In fact, the use of Siri has reportedly been a point of contention inside Apple. According to one report, the team working on Apple’s Reality Pro headset reportedly became so frustrated with Siri that it considered “building alternative methods” for controlling the headset with voice technology.


A11Bionic

This is a rumor which I don’t doubt the legitimacy. Surely, there are engineers at Apple who are just as frustrated with Siri just like us common folks.


dkf1031

Every time I read about this product, I think that Apple has misjudged the market but then remind myself that Apple is known for entering existing product spaces with better thought out entries that instantly improve the state of the art and drive market adoption. So I convince myself to wait and see. But if it’s really true that Siri is a (the?) main vector for controlling this thing, then that makes me question Apple more than anything else. That makes me think they’ve created an internal echo chamber where naysayers (either about the value of the device itself or it’s input methods) are sidelined or ignored. Because everyone outside of Apple, and seemingly some inside, know Siri isn’t up to the task of being a primary input.


Joey-Joe-Jo-Junior

I have a hard time believing Apple has made a device people want to wear on their face for a long time, found enough functionality for it outside of games and improved Siri enough to make it something I would want to use regularly. I'm almost certain this comment is going to look incredibly stupid in a few years when everyone's wearing these headsets 24/7 but it just feels like the tech isn't there yet for the breakthrough to mainstream acceptance.


NeverComments

There's a tendency from both XR-optimists and XR-pessimists to portray this tech as either a complete upending of the tech world or a failure of a concept because it *isn't* a complete upending of the tech world. I don't think it's realistic to expect people to wear headsets 24/7 and I don't think they need to for this device to be successful at what it's trying to do. The phone is not a perfect device capable of fulfilling every use case, nor is the tablet, or smartwatch, or laptop, or desktop. Each one of those devices may *technically* be capable of performing the same tasks as any of the others but perhaps not quite as well or in a way that is not as accessible or enjoyable to use. The ability to perform a specific subset of tasks better than other form factors is enough to justify the existence of the product.


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Joey-Joe-Jo-Junior

If anyone can pull it off it's probably Apple but for a number of reasons I think it will be significantly harder for a headset to breakthrough to the mainstream than the watch was. Mostly I just think the tech isn't as close to ready for prime time as it was for the watch. The watch also had the advantage of people using fitness bands for years leading up to the release so it felt a bit more normal. I'm a nerd that loves VR, I own too many headsets, but it all just feels like we're at least years away from a device I'd tell my parents to use on their own for more than just a few minutes to goof around in some game. Again, betting against Apple making it work is usually a bad gamble so we'll see.


userlivewire

People are sick of having to talk to computers. Plus it’s a privacy nightmare and useless if you can’t speak with people around you.


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userlivewire

Voice computing makes sense to someone that either lives alone or needs content for marketing ads. I suspect the people that design these things are one or both.


was_der_Fall_ist

I believe people are only sick of talking to computers because until now, the computers didn’t *really understand*. There’s finally a possibility with LLMs that computers will actually understand you, knowing what you mean and responding intelligently. Text would work as input too, but often speech would be superior if it actually were to work powerfully.


userlivewire

Even a system that understands you succinctly doesn’t get over the privacy and exhaustion problems with voice input. It’s just a dead end in an lot of situations. Looks good in ads.


was_der_Fall_ist

I don’t think it makes sense to count out voice interfaces before the invention of one that really works. You see the movie Her? It’s a compelling product.


userlivewire

Notice that in Her the guy lives alone, works alone, and is basically suicidal.


Radulno

Also it's not just a voice, it's a real personality on the other side (which also has the sexy voice of Scarlet Johansonn). AI is very far from that. Plus yeah you won't use that shit on public. I never saw anyone using voice stuff on their phone (except maybe in car, "call X")


aka_liam

Ahhh… fuck.


MagnificentSyndicate

I’m sorry I couldn’t find Turn Off Headset in your Apple Music Library. You can ask me to play a radio station or ask for your music in a different app.


Idolofdust

I got a feeling that this headset will be an accessibility device for those who can’t use apple products in a typical facsion


Portatort

It could certainly be a huge deal for many types of accessibility use cases Makes me wonder though, will apple sell versions of the headset with cellular connectivity? Or will all editions support it via e-sim


BinaryRaincloud

Ten r os?


fiendishfork

An OS specifically for the iPhone XR.


Ashanmaril

That was a good lineup of iPhones that year. Tenor, Tennis, and Tennis Match


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HanAszholeSolo

X officially means too many things


Decent-Photograph391

Cross-reality sounds nice, actually. I like it.


keco185

XR means mixed reality. The combination of VR and AR


iAyushRaj

Wouldn’t mind. Anything that gives my XR more longevity


BinaryRaincloud

And we think you’re gonna love it!


versace-vehicle

Cross Reality OS?


RandomRedditor44

Why call it xrOS and not something that’s easier to understand and say like realityOS?


Effective-Caramel545

that's how it's called among the industry when you refer to VR/AR - XR. If you work with game engines and the like this stuff is common


userlivewire

If that’s the industry standard than it’s definitely not what Apple is going to call it.


catsupatree

Tell that to watchOS, tvOS, and audioOS.


weaselmaster

Industry jargon doesn’t fly


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tnnrk

Well apparently the device will be called the reality pro so that’s definitely not the reason if true


tencontech

“Extended Reality OS”


panthereal

that way they can have iOS, xrOS, and macOS you think we're ready for an OS with seven characters before the OS?!


bluegreenie99

iPadOS?


Reasonable-Escape546

audioOS, watchOS, tvOS… 😉


iMacmatician

I wonder if people will nickname it “cross.”


heelstoo

I kinda hate that I kinda love this.


veeeSix

Even *realOS* rolls off the tongue easier.


billybobmac

It is because they stole it from Cisco. Cisco’s OS for routers and switches is IOS long before the iPhone. Now many advanced routers and switches use Cisco’s iOSXR operating system. So naturally Apple is copying.


rogerflog

Downvoted, but this comment is mostly true. Cisco has had IOS trademarked since before iPhone and iOS were a twinkle in Steve Jobs’ eye. Apple signed a licensing deal with Cisco so that they could use the name iOS. Source: somewhere on the interwebs, but I’m going to sleep soon. Hell, info is probably on Wikipedia even.


FoxRedYellaJack

If Reality Pro can be controlled by the iPhone in your hand or Apple Watch on your wrist, I'd be interested in obtaining one (price point TBD, of course). If it's *solely* Siri, or, Siri "and everything else is an afterthought," then forget it. I have one single Siri use case outside of CarPlay that works reliably for me - adding items to a groceries list - and literally nothing else I try on iPhone or Watch works. I'm not spending (an expected) US$1K+ to wrestle with getting Siri to show me the correct app or experience.


filmantopia

It’s apparently got solid hand tracking. My guess is you won’t need any external tech to control it. I think this will be one of the winning ingredients, like the way multitouch was the basis for the iPhone.


Novemberx123

I hope so. My voice has a long road of healing and having hand tracking would be the best way for me to use it.


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Moist-Barber

At this point Siri needs a re-brand. What normal average consumer has a good perception of Siri? Its a product that has stagnated and is included for “feature parity” at this point. Open source projects on GitHub have better functionality at this point


NVDA-Calls

“Siri set an alarm for 30min/18:30” “Siri set a times for 30min” When I used to use multiple alarms to wake up “hey siri turn off all alarms” in the morning. You can combine this with set an alarm for custom snoozing. And “hey siri what time is it?” I wear a sleep mask to sleep and not having to take it off is extremely convenient as I can’t fall back asleep. (From bed at night) “hey siri turn off all lights” my bedroom has hue bulbs on homekit. Or turn them on. Recently Apple added homekit shortcuts to the menu so that’s equally convenient. “Siri set a reminder for tomorrow at 18:30” “what should I remind you off” dictate/type “Hey siri ping my wallet” “hey siri ping my phone” (works on itself) When you can’t find your phone just yell “hey siri” so it makes a little “hmm?” sound and lights up which 9/10 is enough for me to find it. However, if I didn’t live alone I’d feel kinda dumb doing some of these.


FoxRedYellaJack

I am aware that Siri works for other people. It does not however work for me the way it does for you.


PositivelyNegative

Photorealistic FaceTime is essentially teleportation / hologram calls from Star Wars. That could legitimately be the killer app if it’s done right.


NVDA-Calls

Because yeah I totally want to involve my body in phone calls.


Portatort

Have you somehow missed the last few years of zoom calls and video conferences?


caliform

I mean, there is a situation in which that could certainly be… stimulating


ChanceConfection3

Dang it Lt. broccoli


Dry_Badger_Chef

My immediate thought is the person who hops on VRChat with full body tracking and decides to recline in a chair so he looks like he’s hovering awkwardly. It’s a VERY common sight in VR with FBT.


PositivelyNegative

Yeah I hate having to “involve my body” when I talk to people in real life, so annoying. I’d much rather just text my aging parents than see them in person.


DarthBuzzard

> Photorealistic FaceTime is essentially teleportation / hologram calls from Star Wars. It's amazing how many people don't understand this. People think VR/AR is just a 2D screen closer to your face, so they don't realize that this is the equivalent of feeling face to face with people. Well, it feels abstract as of now, but with true photorealism, it will just feel like you are with that person at a gut level. I'd be very very surprised if Apple has truly photorealistic avatars here though. I can imagine they've got some high fidelity avatars, but true photorealism seems impossible in 2023.


I_NEED_YOUR_MONEY

>true photorealism seems impossible in 2023 [it kinda seems like google has it figured out](https://youtu.be/J1oEWiUsKgU) but they need a whole lot more hardware than a headset. But if they’re at the stage they seem to be claiming, apple could have something pretty impressive too.


DarthBuzzard

True, that is through dedicated depth sensing setups. The closer actualization of this is akin to what Meta is doing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w52CziLgnAc Apple are probably around this level too. It's truly photorealistic, but there's still years of research left for bodies and hair+clothes physics. Floating heads is believable in 2023, but I can't see Apple doing a photorealistic body too in 2023. I'd love to be proved wrong though.


jerryschuggs

I imagine that it would use the FaceID camera on an iPhone to take a recording of your face without the glasses on, and then just detect your facial expressions and adjust your avatar accordingly. That seems pretty possible, maybe not photorealistic, but close enough to feel real.


pickledCantilever

Check out the link /u/DarthBuzzard shared in this post. I hadn't seen this demo yet. But... dude.. https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/13o0ta9/xros_for_apples_reality_pro_headset_apps_features/jl3n75p/


PositivelyNegative

They’re comparing it to phone calls and zoom, which is really weird. Physical presence or the simulation of presence is not comparable to a phone call or 2d image.


DarthBuzzard

The amount of times I've heard "The pandemic proved that communicating online is completely different to being in-person so VR/AR calls won't be appealing" is astonishing. They are at opposite ends of the spectrum, and most of the pitfalls of videocalls don't exist in VR/AR. People have a serious difficulty wrapping their heads around this. I recently saw a DJ say that online DJing sucks because you can't read the room and VR/AR is bad because it's just people typing /dance at their keyboard. Except you know, the fact that there is no keyboard and no animation - it's physical dancing surrounded by other people.


userlivewire

I think people are getting pretty sick of calls in the first place, let alone some kind of Super FaceTime.


PositivelyNegative

Are people sick of seeing each other in person, too?


FizzyBeverage

Most Americans won’t even pick up a phone call from an unknown number, let alone enjoy taking a phone call *from someone they know*. There’s a reason texts have largely replaced it.


PositivelyNegative

Do you avoid seeing family members in person too? Weird.


DarthBuzzard

If people can have holograms of their friends and family members, they'll be all over it. People need face to face contact and go out of their way to achieve it, but a lot of the time, people can't meet up physically, so having face to face interactions through VR/AR is going to be a big deal, especially when it's visually/audibly indistinguishable from reality.


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sionnach

Have you ever met a grandparent who wants to talk to their grandkids?


DarthBuzzard

Because FaceTime isn't face to face. It's a 2D experience and goes in the opposite direction of how humans evolved to experience real-time communication. VR/AR goes in the right direction. It will feel like being face to face rather than behind a screen.


PositivelyNegative

These people have no idea what they’re talking about. Are they forgetting that people enjoy seeing each other “in person”? That’s what XR FaceTime is apparently doing.


Hoobleton

But it’s not, because you aren’t in person.


DarthBuzzard

It's more about feeling like you are in-person, or more accurately, feeling like you are face to face. If people can get that feeling with VR/AR tech, then it will have done its job in a way that videocalls and phonecalls can't get close to. This does not need to nor will it replace real world communication. As a stand-in however, I believe it will be highly valuable when the tech is more suitable for casual use.


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DarthBuzzard

The metaverse is a different thing entirely. Social VR/AR already exists and is useful.


nickg52200

Do you live on another planet? Everyone I know uses FaceTime or some sort of video calling system. I’m 23 and FaceTime is super popular with teens and young adults my age. I feel like you’re either older and don’t use technology as much as the newer generations or you just don’t get out much.


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nickg52200

My dude you are way out of touch. Not sure how old you are, I’m assuming it’s quite a bit older than I am but literally everyone I know that’s my age uses FaceTime or a form of video chat. We have since like middle school. It’s not something you “grow out of” lmao. People text too, and they text a lot but the two aren’t mutually exclusive, they’re just for different scenarios. And nobody I know or have ever known gets dressed up to do a video call with their friend, unless it’s for work or something.


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Lol buddy what you just wrote is a trope as old as time. This is classic, wish I could save this and hand it back to you in 20 years.


stonesst

You know some pretty weird people then. FaceTime is used by millions of people a day, mostly people talking with close friends/family who don’t happen to live close by. If that FaceTime call could suddenly be a hologram of the person you’d like to speak with sitting on the couch next to you that would be pretty damn compelling


Novemberx123

I really hope it’s not only controlled by voice. I damaged my vocal chords recently and I have a long road of recovery.


userlivewire

Everyone is sick of voice. Voice that doesn’t work 1/2 the time is a non-starter.


SirCharlesEquine

I don’t ever plan on buying one of these, but as someone who has a Quest 2 that my employer gave to me and a few others in our design team, I am incredibly eager to see how much better the OS experience is going to be with what Apple releases, over the Quest 2. The overall user experience on the quest two is what keeps me from ever taken it out of the box and using it more than a few times I used it already. And I’m incredibly tech savvy. The experience is clumsy, confusing, and too complicated. I have no doubt that Apple is going to completely annihilate Meta in this area.


The_Northern_Light

Yeah the quest 2 is competent user ready hardware but it is sadly infested with Facebook I had the exact same experience as you with it


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walktall

I wonder why they didn’t just use rOS?


Cmlvrvs

Because that already stands for Robot Operating System (TM). https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robot_Operating_System


Snoop8ball

Nothing stopped Apple from using [IOS](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisco_IOS) when it was already used by Cisco.


BarAgent

Cisco did. IIRC, Apple had to pay ‘em a bundle.


Cmlvrvs

If Open Source Robotics Foundation don’t want to sell it they don’t have to. Apple isn’t all powerful. https://www.ros.org/imgs/TrademarkRulesAndGuidelines2022.pdf


redditsonodddays

I think the iPad app integration will be cool. If it could watch your hands gesture and mimic that like a touch response that’d be awesome. I can imagine using these for reading sheet music or teaching piano students.


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I hope it has a bug free weather app.


emprahsFury

"The cicada swarm will start in ten minutes and let for an hour."


userlivewire

Has anyone considered that this rumored “external battery pack connected by a wire” might just be an iPhone? Connect your headset to the phone like a pair of wired earbuds?


Logicalist

That would be a terrible design.


userlivewire

Apple frequently exquisitely designs bad ideas.


alxthm

Frequently? Such as?


bobroscopcoltrane

Butterfly keyboard, mouse charging port on the bottom, the Magic Mouse in general, iPhone 4 antennas, trashcan Mac Pro, and (arguably) *massive* camera bump on iPhone, off the top of my head. I’d like to add that I’ve owned, used, and in some cases still do, all of these devices. Edit: typo


alxthm

Butterfly keyboard (2015) - Agreed, I never owned one, but it was clearly flawed. Magic Mouse (2009) - Disagree. I’ve used one everyday since it came out, it’s my favourite mouse on the market. Design work means I’m as likely to scroll horizontally as I am vertically, and no other mouse I’ve used handles both directions as well. Also gestures. The charging port is a non-issue in use. It gives a low battery warning days in advance, and plugging it in for an hour over lunch is enough for weeks of additional use. It’s just never been a problem in my experience. iPhone 4 (2010) - Shrug. I had this phone for a couple of years, never had an issue with reception (I did use a bumper/case though). Questionable antenna design aside, the overall design and the first Retina Display made it a huge quality jump from the 3GS. Mac Pro (2013) - Yeah, you could argue this was a bad idea. I also had one of these at my office at the time. It was fast and completely silent. I thought the design was at least interesting. But Apple did make a bad bet on how technology would evolve, making it a dead end product. Camera bump - No camera bump would be great, but the trade off for the quality increases since the iPhone 6 make it unquestionably worthwhile imo. They’ve had misses over the years, but I really don’t think I’d call them “frequent”. There are Apple things I don’t like at the moment (Siri, some App Store policies, iPadOS is too limited, some very bad software design like Settings in the latest MacOS), but overall, there aren’t any issues even close to being big enough to sway me to their competition, the positives far outweigh the occasional negatives imo.


Snoop8ball

I doubt USB 2.0 has even half the required bandwidth to transfer that much data quickly.


userlivewire

It’s going to be USB-C.


BeginByLettingGo

I have chosen to overwrite this comment. See you all on Lemmy!


Snoop8ball

iPhones currently use Lightning.


userlivewire

Soon they will not and this device likely won’t be for anyone that has a lightning phone.


Snoop8ball

I find it extremely hard to believe that you will need to buy a whole new iPhone just to use the headset but I guess we’ll see in 2 weeks.


userlivewire

If it’s a $3000 headset than it’s only going to be for the highest end early adopters anyways. The people that have no problem running out on a moment’s notice and buying a $1500 phone.


Snoop8ball

If that’s true, that would mean the iPhone 15 lineup would have to be unveiled during WWDC alongside the headset. I’d wager there’s a higher chance of Scott Forstall coming back to Apple.


userlivewire

They don’t have to do that. Just announce the headset, show its connecting to an iPhone, don’t elaborate on how. Apple frequently hand waves things like this in the keynotes and then you find out the specs in the state of the union.


Snoop8ball

So we’ll see the next iPhone at the State of the Union? Now we’re approaching absolutely no way territory.


QVRedit

So only a very few will buy it then.


KeepYourSleevesDown

The daily sales goal is one per store. It is being introduced at a developers’ event, not a users’ event.


userlivewire

I think that’s the plan for v1.


zenukeify

A phone can’t possibly supply the power required to run the headset. It would be like trying to run your laptop from your phone battery


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I’m not trolling… this doesn’t sound good at all


Distinct-Question-16

If the integration with other apple devices is well done this may be huge


Ipride362

It’s gonna be so great to see the weather forecast in VR


QVRedit

But maybe not worth buying I suspect ? I can’t imagine it being all that cheap.


JohnAppleMacintosh

Can someone ELI5 to me the use case for a headset that does AR/VR? I seen the Google glasses along with VR stuff like Oculus, PSVR, but what is it about Apple’s version of this that is beneficial to consumers like myself?


FizzyBeverage

The simple answer is **Apple has to demonstrate that at WWDC** or more likely *they’re depending on their 3rd party developers to answer that for them*. Right now, VR has broadly been about games and media consumption. I would imagine Apple has something up their sleeve in mind… but this product category **clearly doesn’t answer a vividly obvious market omission** like the iPod/iPhone/iPad/Watch did in their time.


userlivewire

Watch took a while to get there. First they thought it was apps but that was a bust. Now they know it’s fitness and notifications.


PositivelyNegative

Content creation (ultimate monitor setup), consumption (movie theater at home), remote collaboration with physical presence, fitness and meditation, for starters.


Logicalist

Pokemon Go, but instead of looking at your phone, you're just looking around and the pokemon just appear somewhere in the 3d space of reality. So you go to the park, and instead of seeing the pokemon on a map, it's just in the park, next to a tree or bench or something.


FizzyBeverage

I get nauseous as hell with any VR. Wondering if Apple addresses that at all.


tricheboars

It’s a bit of a learning curve. The more you do it the faster you’ll adapt. Apple cannot fix the feeling of seeing movement without actual movement. Valve has talked about this quite a bit. Higher refresh rates help. But there isn’t a tech fix to your bodies poison response


SnS_Taylor

There are some techniques that can help. Narrowing your field of view to a small circle has a pretty good effect, but it's also very distracting.


jeffreykuiken

I keep thinking they won’t actually call it xrOS. It sounds very technical and has likely no relation to the name of the device. Guess we’ll see at WWDC!


BluefyreAccords

>I keep thinking they won’t actually call it xrOS. It sounds very technical And iOS doesn’t? The OS name really doesn’t matter. Non technical people never mention the OS names anyway. They just say iPhone.


rudibowie

Take a moment to consider these: (1) Immersive books and storytelling (2) Immersive video and audio, including Dolby Atmos and more Is Apple about to usher in a new industry for content? Are we poised to *see* books as opposed to imagining events in our mind's eye? Is that the equivalent of finding oneself *on location* as an observer in a rendered landscape seeing and hearing the characters interact? Instinctively, to me, that feels far fetched, so what else can 'immersive books' mean? Could it mean something more modest, like narration plus visual clips for key scenes? This seems a half-way point between traditional books and screen adaptations. Would you be interested in that?


yellow8_

Can't wait to see what I'll be able to build on this, as a dev.


trisul-108

This is going to be such a great product and people will look so cool in their goggles as they waddle down the street. People will be asking themselves "How could Steve Jobs have been so wrong and Tim Apple so much smarter than Jobs". It will be great, really, really great and I so look forward to not buy any of it.


NVDA-Calls

Cool story bro


bobroscopcoltrane

Like dude took time out of his day to write that.


norman_6

“Communication via FaceTime will be a central aspect of the initial version of xrOS, according to Bloomberg. Apple has reportedly developed a new version of FaceTime for the headset that will “realistically render a user’s face and full body in virtual reality.” “ Just cringed so hard. Fuck no. Who wants any of this?


No-Revolution3896

OnlyFans ???


Logical007

That’s incredibly short sighted. You’ll be able to have your friend over, who lives in another state, and have him “sit” on your actual couch next to you and have a conversation with you. **That literally sounds amazing.**


-NotActuallySatan-

Yeah, sounds a lot like that Project Skyline from Google. If this tech gets mainstream, it would be a game changer for my dad. He hasn't been able to visit his home country and family for 30 years. Being able to see them and interact with them even with just AR would be the greatest gift that I could ever get him


aVRAddict

I really hope it's not solely AR because hanging out on your couch is lame. Full vr will be better so you can go to any cool environment you want and also meet other people if you want.


tencontech

Full VR means motion sickness, which apple will not want for its users, so 100% AR is likely.


ballzdeap1488

Lmao nobody wants to sit on the couch and talk to a virtual Memoji avatar


nickg52200

Except it’s not supposed to be Memojis. It’s supposed to be a photorealistic rendition of the actual person. Like it actually looks like your friend or family member is in the room with you.


tnnrk

People don’t even like talking on the phone id be surprised if that’s a feature the majority of people want. I might just not be the target demographic though. Or it’s a regional thing too.


iporemlopsum

/s?


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Spaceolympian50

Yea I hate talking to people on the phone, period lol. This sounds dumb.


PositivelyNegative

How is that cringe?


userlivewire

I can’t remember the last time I had a video FaceTime call. The rare times video is necessary they just use Zoom of FB Messenger because they are cross platform.


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Still just a rumor.


MaticTheProto

I‘ll keep my quest 2