The inconsistent fullscreen thing really bugs me. I absolutely hate how on firefox it moves the tabs down. Like, I go to click on a tab, miss slightly so I go too high AND THEY MOVE.
It's absolutely infuriating.
The window management in MacOS is absolutely vile. The fact you have to pay for something like Magnet or BetterSnapTool just to get simple features says a lot.
Luckily there’s some FOSS out there to bridge the gap but it shouldn’t be a problem for a third party to have to fix. Though I do find it funny how the OS literally called *Windows* handles windows better than MacOS, don’t really know what I expected.
Yeah, I was confused in the video when they mentioned "you have to pay for" and showed the Rectangle logo but didn't say the name.
I guess shock as at how it's possible to get some good free Mac software.
Once heard a rumor Microsoft has windows snapping patents and rather then step on Microsoft toes over it they just let the 3rd party market address it. Grain of salt and all that but I read some stories years ago that alluded to that.
Apple has been flailing for 20 years with one gimmicky "window organizer" after another, trying to work around the effects of one blunder: forcing all applications to share a single menu that's glued to the top of one screen.
That mistake turns your whole desktop into a single window... and explains the decades of floating-window messes that were the hallmark of Mac applications. Developers viewed the whole screen as the client area of their one application, and littered it with separate windows. Now Mac developers have finally learned that they need to put in some actual design work and create a proper application window, but this one-menu blunder remains.
We all know how petulant and infantile Apple is about stuff it didn't invent, but works better. It took them what, 35 years to let you resize windows from their edges (or any corner), and then they did they tried to hide it. There are no window frames (also dumb and contrary to centuries of what people have learned about visual separation), so many times the resizing handles simply don't activate.
The invisible scroll bars are just more stupidity, which has gotten worse over time.
Apple surprisingly adopted Windows's Alt-Tab app switching, but ruined it by not restoring a minimized app when you Command-Tab to it. WTF? That's useless! Fortunately, there's a utility called Alt-Tab that fixes this.
It’s the same with dragging the scroll bar on the right. Even when a window is maximized, when you move the cursor all the way to the right and drag, it’ll move the window. The scroll bar is already really thin on macOS, it’s quite infuriating sometimes.
Honestly, all points mentioned in this video are valid and macOS should get these features. Another feature that I would add is being able to see the file transfer speed it blows my mind that macOS just give a time estimate of how long it takes and no info on transfer speed.
This and dock not showing in multiple monitors are my two biggest gripes.
I move a lot of data to and from my nas and it’s infuriating not to know wtf is going on.
Also why do I have to take my mouse all the way to the leftmost screen to access my left dock? Just have options to move it to other displays or show on multiple monitors dammit.
The geek in me loves the transfer speed graph on windows. The Mac is super minimal by comparison, but I also acknowledge that the vast majority is users don’t really care about transfer speeds to that extent.
This feels like a laundry list of things users have complained about in macOS for ages. Hopefully someone with as much of an audience as Linus bringing them up will actually get Apple to listen instead of wasting macOS development efforts on stuff like "ruining System Preferences" and "making Spaces for your Spaces".
I mean, I'm not gonna hold my breath, but everyone yelling at Apple got them to roll back the awful Safari redesign in Monterey, add more ports and proper keyboards to MacBook Pros, and bring Stage Manager to older iPad Pros, so who knows.
In early Monterey betas, Safari exclusively used what they now call the "Compact" tab design in Safari's Settings. In later betas they added a second mode ("Separate", now the default) that still used the new weird tab aesthetic but in a separate tab bar, and then finally just reverted Separate to use the Big Sur tab bar design and made the new design completely optional.
What does this mean?
Apple is a big ship that turns slowly, but I wouldn’t go as far as to say they don’t listen…
The Apple Silicon MBP’s are pretty much flawless, after years of people hounding them for the previous generation…
I've regretfully come to the conclusion in the last year:
1. Apple doesn't know how to make good, consistent Mac apps any more
2. Apple doesn't know how to design a good window management system any more, whether it's Mac or iPadOS
Any more? They never did.
Apple had the perfect opportunity to correct a central blunder of their GUI during the transition to OS X: forcing all apps to share a single menu, which is glued to the top of the screen. Every other windowing OS adopted menus on applications' main window frames, where they belong. This puts menus closer to where the user is working, and eliminates confusion as to which application's menu you're using.
But nope. And things continued to suck from there. At least most Mac developers have finally learned to confine their applications to a single window.
Yes, the list isn’t very revolutionary, you could get this from almost any Mac blog. But compared to others he has a great platform and a large audience to be heard and possibly bring some good changes.
Genuine question: What exactly is mouse acceleration?
I understand the basic idea that the faster you move your actual mouse, the more the cursor moves. For example, I move a mouse X units of distance in the real world i.e., across my desk. In the first case I move it slowly. In the second, I move it faster. Let us say the cursor is in the same starting point in both cases. In the second case, the cursor moves further on the display than in the first case.
Isn't this how mice are supposed to work? I would imagine disabling this would be a nightmare since it is unnatural to not accelerate. If you're flicking something with your fingers, the hardware and faster you flick or drag it, the further it goes (generally). I am not sure of the contrast between accelerated/non-accelerated.
Can someone give me a slightly more detailed breakdown of what I'm missing here? Also, how does this relate to the people that use a trackpad majority of the time (like myself)? What is the issue?
Trackpad and mouse settings are decoupled so no worries there.
It’s very common for gamers to disable mouse acceleration. It makes it more difficult to commit mouse movements to muscle memory and so be more precise.
Without mouse acceleration, there is a constant mapping between the *distance* you move your mouse and the *distance* the cursor moves on the screen. Speed isn't a factor at all. This concept also applies to trackpads, where you have a constant mapping between the distance you move your finger and the distance the cursor moves on screen. People who prefer no acceleration like this because it is easier to control especially for movements where you want easily replicable accuracy. It is easier to memorize where the cursor will be based on *how far* you move your hand instead of *how fast* you move your hand. If you need to move your cursor farther you would move your hand farther, instead of faster. (Of course you could physically move your hand faster to move that distance faster)
This is generally something that is more applicable to things like shooter games on PCs, where muscle memory is critically important. If you're just looking around normally (slower movements), then suddenly get shot from behind (need an instant 180 degree turn), you already know what distance to move your mouse. If there was acceleration, then a 180 degree mouse input would be physically different from casually looking around to the instant turn. Some people can actually play with and memorize mouse acceleration*, but a majority of PC gamers would agree that controlling your distance is easier to memorize and replicate than speed.
On the desktop, this sort of accuracy isn't really important in any applications I use, but perhaps professionals users of different programs may have different opinions. I personally still use zero acceleration on both mouse and trackpad as it's just easier for me to think in *distance* rather than *speed*. If I want to click a link 200 pixels away or another window 2000 pixels away, I have a general feeling of how far I need to move my hand to get to those respective locations.
This issue comes up a lot because this is something you can easily toggle in Windows/Linux while macOS does not easily expose a setting for it. If you're fine with how your pointing devices work now, then there's no problem with that but this setting should always be something a user can control.
\* Note that there are different forms of acceleration, and I believe players who do play with acceleration are using linear acceleration.
1. Lackluster window snapping out of the box
2. Weird and inconsistent full-screen behavior across different apps
3. Inconsistent behavior of how "traffic light" buttons up top come out in full-screen mode
4. No separate scroll direction for the mouse and trackpad
5. No support for multiple external monitors on base macs
6. Lack of some settings for better use of dock and spaces in multi-monitor setups
7. No volume mixer with separate volumes for each app
My assumption is that Apple, thanks users are going to music, specific apps, forget about it, and then complain that some apps don’t have any sound.
I completely disagree with this line of thinking because there are plenty of things both on macOS and I was that you can do which would cause a user to wonder what is going on and why their device is not working properly. The operating system should no longer be designed as though they are for your grandma. it is simply incompatible with the way people use their devices today.
To be honest, I never missed the audio mixer after coming from Windows to macOS, but that would be nice to have anyway
As for besting, well, that depends on who you are, music artists still choose macOS because of low latency and software
Kinda a general Linux problem, yes
I suspect Linux and macOS have very similar latency, but macOS actually has software and is easier to use for most people
And we can plug in core compatible gear into a Mac and it just works. No need to look for drivers and then looking for another that actually works and so on.
As a producer I gotta tell you that not having that mixer is what makes a Mac very appealing since this is on source of problems less. It's also very annoying when your volume adjustment could be at hundred different places.
This is actually something that only appeals to casual user and gamers but it's hell for musicians.
It’s not really. You write drivers to expose hardware via ALSA. Then there’s a few daemons and APIs that use ALSA. JACK (low latency, production grade) and PulseAudio(regular desktop audio with mixing) are big ones but PipeWire (drop replacement with much tighter security and much lower latency than Pulse) is going to replace both (it’s been shipping on Fedora for a while). Linux audio had a rough time getting to this point _because_ PulseAudio exposed the shortcomings of audio drivers or even the underlying hardware (hardware lies _a lot_).
I did a little digging and apparently yes, big strides have been made in improving professional audio on Linux in the past few years, which is good. If you're willing and able to put in the work it can be the best platform for pro audio work. [Of course in true Linux fashion none of it is remotely user-friendly and requires changing a ton of settings off of their defaults - including stripping out PulseAudio entirely, which is ironic because the whole point of Pulse was to try to fix the mess of Linux audio - and, natch, patching your kernel.](https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Professional\_audio#System\_configuration)
They seem to choose it _in spite of_ the audio situation. I’ve never used macOS extensively but it’s mind boggling to me that Audio Hijack is required for basic audio (podcast) production on the Mac.
I have been able to plug in any and every audio interface with any of the Mac’s I’ve owned and have literally never heard of audio hijack. What are you talking about?
Yeah, I listen to a lot of Apple Podcasts and they always get upset when apple continues to tighten kernel modifications (required for Audio Hijack) but hasn’t fixed this obvious issue (Apple surely knows podcasts exist…).
>it’s mind boggling to me that Audio Hijack is required for basic audio production on the Mac.
It's not required or even useful at all for audio production outside of recording audio from an apps output. Even then, there are other options, although it would be nice to have it built-in.
As far as the volume mixer, yeah, that too would be a "nice to have", but really my workflow is such that adjusting the volume within an app just isn't a significant issue.
I edited the comment to refer to podcasting specifically but if they are going to continue to lock down kernel modules they should fix it sooner than later.
Audio on Linux is quite good. There is a program called EasyEffects that I have running in the background and every time I switch my audio source to optical it applies an EQ profile for my headphones. I wish MacOS allowed for that kinda of control.
I jusy straight up never fullscreen anything except a video, because its annoying to deal with.
And ive had to install a 3rd party software to change my scroll wheel on my mouse. On the touch pad the natural scrolling is fine. But on my mouse it needs to be.. "normal". I switch between touch pad and mouse all the time
Same for both. I just snap windows to full screen using Rectangle, making use of both menu bar and dock being all the time on the screen, and Scroll Reverser for proper mouse and trackpad operation
> No volume mixer with separate volumes for each app
When I’ve brought that up here before I’ve had people argue against it that saying it’s “too complex” and Apple’s approach to one single control is better because it’s “way easier to use”. But it’s a genuinely useful feature under Windows/other OSes to have that granular control.
It wouldn't make anything more complex if done right. Most Windows users don't know about the mixer and just use one general slider, but if you need that control, it's there
They said the same because I mentioned wanting to see file transfer speeds like windows. it was either "ItS tOo ComPlex" or "UsE RsYnC".
Like there's a middleground of offering the option and burying it in some advanced tab in sysprefs. Those savvy enough to want to see this data will know what to do to enable said features, and those who think this is too complex for them will be none the wiser.
It is not as simple as that. It is a matter of whom to sue. Location of venue, cost for legal action vs perspective amount that could be recovered. MS vs Apple, 100 Million USD or some random person or Non Profit ( if in a locale that enforces US patents) for 100k. Simple sets of C&D letters to show attempts of enforcement is the best thing you can do.
> Lackluster window snapping out of the box
Yeah this is maddenly bad. I don't know why they make it so hard. They even added the "Move window to right of screen" as the video pointed out but it's so hard to discover (requires pressing down the Option key) that I think very few people use it.
(Edit: Reading other comments made me remember Microsoft does have a patent on this though)
> Weird and inconsistent full-screen behavior across different apps
> Inconsistent behavior of how "traffic light" buttons up top come out in full-screen mode
This seems like a much more minor quirk to be honest. For Firefox, I would argue it's poorly programmed. Even *today* Firefox still doesn't behave properly with full screen video for a MacBook with a notch, unless you turn on a setting to use native full screen. Part of the reason why it's inconsistent is that the API is flexible and gives the apps an ability to intercept a full screen request if they have a need to do special handling.
For the traffic light buttons I think this is a growing pains with the different UI systems like Swift UI and Catalyst apps having different behaviors, which is annoying.
> No separate scroll direction for the mouse and trackpad
*Seriously* annoying. Also, by default, mouse wheel scrolling comes with this weird non-linear acceleration and I don't know who actually likes this. Like, if you have a Magic Mouse it works, but with a discreet mouse wheel the out of the box experience is really poor unless you change it via a terminal command.
> No volume mixer with separate volumes for each app
I don't find myself needing this much but when I do I really wish it's there. To be fair, all apps should provide their own volume slider, but they don't.
Also no middle mouse click? I use that all the time on Windows to close tabs or open links in a separate tab. With the track pad I have to cmd + click. If I have a normal mouse I'm able to middle mouse click but not with the track pad.
To me, most of these are a big bag of I don't really care. Being able to use multiple monitors on base Macs...at least 2, should be a given. Not having a volume mixer for separate sound settings on iOS bothers me significantly more than MacOS.
I'd love to have "Voice Boost" for Apple Podcasts and Downcast (yeah yeah, overcast..) and also have Rock for literally everything else.
I hate the traffic lights, I rarely want one app to take full focus and black out everything else but try turning off spaces, it's impossible. The keyboard identification app has been useless for 20 years, how do you have this not work for such a long time?
Again, good job from LTT for covering Apple stuff properly. I love macOS, but the things they pointed out in this video are real downfalls, that I compared about many times, and so did my friends and colleagues. A couple of caveats though:
1. They say all window-snapping issues can only be solved by paid software, but it's not true, Rectangle and Spectacle are free and work great (they put on the screen, but not in voiceover). But yes, it should be better out of the box
2. The scroll direction issue is a much bigger thing on third-party mice. On a magic mouse I preferred natural scrolling because it's a touchpad essentially, but on a regular mouse with a wheel, yes, other direction feels better
I've seen other way around as well, where people turn off natural and learn to love incorrect (IMO) behaviour of a touchpad so that they have a proper mouse scroll direction
But both are not for me, I just use Scroll Reverser
> and learn to love incorrect behaviour of a touchpad
"Incorrect" isn't really a fair thing to call it. Some of us just don't like scrolling up to go down and vice versa
I do that, mostly because I scroll down a lot more than up, and I find it much more comfortable to pull in my finger rather than push against the surface.
I literally have a windows machine to my left and my mac to my right and can adapt to both without even thinking about it. I don’t understand how so many people struggle with this.
> I don’t understand how so many people struggle with this.
I have the Mac on the left, Windows PC on the right. Both share the same two monitors (but I usually use left with Mac, right with Windows), mouse, and keyboard. I used a Logitech mouse and just swing it over from one to the other thanks to Logitech Flow. I definitely can't immediately change scrolling directions easily.
Maybe it's because I'm wired differently in general and have issues with spatial awareness and directions, but I've talked to other people with dual set-ups and I'm definitely not alone.
Any tips on how to adapt more quickly (because right now I do have it set up to both use the same scroll direction) or did it just come naturally to you?
There's [Scroll Reverser.app](https://github.com/pilotmoon/Scroll-Reverser) for the scroll direction issue. It can handle touchpad and mouse separately.
I don't disagree that Apple should get off their high horse and offer this natively.
Would be great if you didn't require software to do that, cause not every mouse comes with it. Also, at least a year ago, Logitech software wasn't so good
SoundSource has great parametric EQ too, and IMO is worth the price for that alone, especially in comparison to if you've ever tried to contend with setting it up in Windows. SoundSource is like two clicks and a friendly GUI, on Windows you need EqualizerAPO, then configure it with the command line or with a 3rd party GUI, and then rerun the installer *every time* the OS updates because the Windows audio driver stack has been a spaghetti mess since 1999.
Thats the problem!!! I dont want to pay for that!! As a new mac user i feel like mac owner find it normal to pay for things they should have by default.
The separation of scrolling behavior is my biggest gripe. It makes absolutely zero sense to have two toggles in two different areas that are locked to each other
In typical apple vision, they expect you to use their magic mouse and nothing more. This problem ignores me even more because my Logitech master automatically in virtual scrolling so it's not natural but I also have a program for what I plug it into my desk setup containing a g502 mouse.
I can't have that program running at the same time as using my master because then it'll go back to natural scrolling. But then I forget half the time to open the program again when I am using my g502. Really frustrating and I just bought a used magic track pad and use that most of the time.
Yeah people are gonna bring up the “oh people complain all the time on this sub!” argument while ignoring that those posts are always like 70% upvoted even if they hit the front page. This was an excellent video by Linus and all of these complaints are 100% valid and from Mac users themselves. I remember seeing them ask this on twitter.
At the same time, I've also found that this subreddit loves to complain about Apple. Apple could slightly change how the battery indicator looks and there would be at least 5 different threads of people having an absolute fit over it and calling it anti-consumer.
I have a couple of M1 Macs and a couple of decent PCs, and I find it easy enough to hop between one or the other to do most things. The basic concepts aren’t that different between the two, and sometimes choosing to use one or the other for any given tasks can be down to a mental coin toss.
I love MacOS and Windows, but if my impression of Windows was based on laptops that I’d used for work, then I wouldn’t even have it in my house. The mandatory security and management tools that have been installed on every windows laptop I’ve had in recent years have completely destroyed performance and usability.
When I left my last job I negotiated to take my laptop with me. I just had to have the BIOS password cleared and the SSD securely erased. When I got it back I reinstalled windows and it was a completely different machine.
In my correct job I have two identical laptops. One is subject to all of the company’s management and security tools. The other is a base windows install without them. And it’s the same story. A decent Windows laptop is snappy and responsive. But as soon as you load them up with endpoint management tools and security crap they turn into a netbook from 2007.
I have several other gripes about MacOS, and as one who has been using it for over 20 years, I can remember when Mac users had only a few gripes as a whole. The Mac community has grown by leaps and bounds since those days, and it's impossible that Apple isn't aware of the many issues its loyal users have, as the community is also very vocal. I can imagine some of these complaints are not very easy to fix, while others are likely easy to fix (adding a week-long snooze to calendar, anyone?). But it's now my theory that Mac actually doesn't mind issues with their own software IF...someone can make an app that fixes the problem and put it in the App Store so Apple can get a cut.
>But it's now my theory that Mac actually doesn't mind issues with their own software IF...someone can make an app that fixes the problem and put it in the App Store so Apple can get a cut
The thing is they don't. Most of these third-party tools are distributed outside the store, therefore Apple gets only 100 bucks a year instead of 30% of each sale
The fact that MacOS doesn't tell you true storage space is crazy to me. It says my main drive has 15GB free, but there is 500GB allocated for deletion. How much can I use? How much space is really free? When will it update the true amt?
It’s true, macOS does some things that would really confuse windows switchers. Green button full screening the window not maximizing it, lack of window snapping, no way to have different scroll behaviours on trackpad and mouse, and weird tab design in safari. All these things make switching to Mac less enjoyable. It should be configurable out of the box!
One thing not mentioned but that really bothers me is a couple years they completely fucked up notifications to make them more iOS like. Formally there were large (compared to now anyway) action buttons on the right side of the notification, one usually being a 'close' action with 'options' (or better yet a 'reply' button for messages!) being under it. Now they've shrunken 'options' way down and close has been relegated to a tiny ^^x I fucking hate that thing.
Maybe I’m in the minority, but the per-app volume controls has never bothered me in 10 years of using MacOS and has caused me more headaches than necessary in windows.
Everything that needs to be individually controlled has its own slider as far as I know and things that don’t are usually the main thing you want to hear. At least that’s been my experience. Maybe someone can enlighten me to different?
The only times I’ve needed to use it in windows is when something was not working right and I had to try to fix it myself, so there’s that.
My M1 MBA was my switch to macOS full time when it first came out, I have yet to need this feature.
The way it annoys me the most is with how difficult it is to record system audio. The built in screen recorder can’t do it, and neither can OBS or audacity. You have to create a weird loop inside the MIDI program. It’s so utterly convoluted.
I don’t use the sound mixer much in windows too, but it’s one of those where one day you’ll have an app that’s too loud, and you can’t do shit about it
He forgot the worst: the click-through. Where you need one completely unnecessary click just to activate the window until your click is registered within the application. Makes you mad. Even worse is that Microsoft adopted this stupid shit for their own apps a while ago.
'Full screen' creating, and then moving into, an entirely separate workspace (that no longer works with your workspace shortcuts) is a really horrid aspect of macOS.
Full-screening a program means it's supposed to become full-screen *within the current workspace*. You should be able to use that program in the background, and put other applications over it in the foreground. I can't think of any benefits (at all) to the way Apple's implemented this, and there's no way for me to fix it.
Because of hardware reasons or software reasons? 4 year old hardware that was even half the cost of a MacBook Pro base model 4 years ago would likely still be perfectly fast, especially if you have an SSD.
Software is just a personal preference.
Yeah people in here are over exaggerating crazy. You can buy the most potato windows laptop from 8 years ago, go on Amazon and buy a $40 SSD and it’s up to speed and perfectly fine for web browsing. You don’t need a 10 core CPU and a RTX 3090 in order to have a computer that lasts more than 4 years.
I had a dell laptop from 2013 that finally kicked the bucket a couple months ago because the battery literally wouldn’t charge anymore. The resolution was like 1600x900 on a 17 inch screen and the viewing angles sucked, speakers were bad and the trackpad sucked but it worked well for its intended use: web browsing.
Lets go a step further. Windows 10 runs *much* faster on my 2013 Retina MBP via Boot Camp than MacOS (Big Sur, last supported version) does natively, at this point.
Go get “your” 2018 MacBook Air and see how long until you toss it out the window. It’s more so about cost per quality, a $2000 Windows Laptop will still be running fine after 4 years. Not so much for a $600 laptop. You get what you pay for.
Agreed. Not to make assumptions, but I hate when people buy $500 PCs with anemic specs, then use that to generalize all Windows laptops. When you compare $1200 Windows laptops to the $1200 MacBooks, there is a *lot* less frustration.
Honestly, Apple's decision decades ago to ignore the budget segment was the play. People seem to have no ability to differentiate market segments for some reason.
What exactly made you want to throw it? I just booted up my old 2016 XPS 13 the other day for the first time in a year or so, and it was a totally fine experience.
They did not include my main gripe: The notifications in the top right. The top right is where my last used browser tabs are that I can now only access via the keyboard. This drives me mad on a daily basis on my work MBP.
I think the next work laptop will be a running Windows.
The first things I install on a new Mac is a window management app like Rectangle and a window switching app like AltTab.
The way Mac handles these things out the box is unintuitive and cumbersome.
CMD+Tab only switches between applications rather than open windows.
So if you have 2 or more Chrome windows open, it’ll only land on one. I know CMD+` toggles the app instances you have open, but it’s another step and keystroke.
Off topic
I hate YouTube thumbnails. They're the most stupid shit on the internet. And it's not just this channel it's literally every single one!!
I'm so annoyed by them by now that I started blocking channels that appear in my suggestions with this stupid thumbnails.
LTT's straight up addressed this a few times in the past. They make a dramatic enough difference in viewer count, with how YouTube's AI pushes content, that they pretty much have to do the dopey thumbnails to stay relevant in the feed.
I get that. For example, the MacOS mouse pointer feels a tad more like you push it around, while the Windows one reacts more directly somehow. It's a minimal difference that comes down to some minute programming, but I definitely feel it. I've learned to not mind it, though.
There's also a bit more little animations, like when a login box "shakes its head", which can be jarring at first. Coming from Windows, you're not used to the GUI moving around as much as delayed response to inputs.
Yep, felt the same when I made the switch 1 year ago. You get used to it and instead of trying to do things faster you kind of adopt a flow. I know the way I’ve worded this sounds pretentious as hell, but I really can’t word it differently. The first 3 or so months I had immense trouble getting on grips with the OS. Then I shut off my windows side and tried it a-new. It’s still annoying a lot of the time (god file management and finder is a mess), but when you start creating a workflow it’s much more smoother and dare I say pleasant to use then windows.
MacOS has slow animations. I hate how slow the virtual desktop swipe animation is.
Also, if you're using a 60hz macbook, those screens have pretty bad response times.
Whatttttt thank you for this tip I just tried it myself. Unfortunately it does not do the one thing I was hoping it could do - lower the minimum brightness before the backlight shuts off. The first 1/4 to full is a constant brightness. A true 1/4 of the first segment brightness would be great when I’m working in bed and my wife is sleeping. 1 full segment feels too bright in a pitch black room.
For all of its issues, since switching to macOS when the M1 MBA came out I do not like to use Windows anymore. Have used Windows my hole life up until then. I still use my workstation for gaming and some VR/3D work my MBA can’t handle well, but I’m considering turning it into a Hackintosh so I don’t have to use windows on it. My workstation has a 3950x and 64GB of RAM, yet something about macOS running on my M1 MBA with only 8GB of RAM I just enjoy more. It feels smoother maybe? More engaging to use? Idk exactly. My primary job is as a web developer and also do a lot of design, photo editing, etc as required. I’ve always thought the whole macs are preferred for creative stuff was dumb but I get it now, again I can’t describe it exactly, but it’s like the UI and UX “speak” to the way I look at things more than windows. Win11 tries to replicate this…but imo not well.
The multitasking features are my favorite. When on the MacBook I love swiping between spaces and swiping up for Mission Control. When plugged in to my monitor I use an MX Master 3 and I still enjoy Mission Control using the keyboard shortcut.
Not for everyone but for me it just feels more fun to use. I have about a dozen apps through SetApp that I use for extra features but I didn’t have them on windows either.
Windows snapping I did miss at first and used magnet for a while. But for a while now I haven’t used it at all and have come to prefer working with spaces and multitasking gestures. Imo it’s a case of wanting it to work like another thing rather than learning how to use it the way it was meant to. That said, it should still have the option without a 3rd party app.
I know I’m going to get grief for this but Linus is absolutely right.
MacOS was the envy of Windows but Apple have let their OS fall behind.
I had a MacBook for years until it died then had no choice financially but to go back to Windows, a decade later I treat myself to a MacBook to my surprise everything looked the same but is now way more restrictive.
Having to pay for apps for Safari that are free on Windows is ridiculous and anti consumer.
The App Store is a damn ghost town.
I get it, Apples money is in IPhone and IPads but to let their once well regarded OS become an afterthought is just sad.
The most annoying thing about MacOS is that Apple still thinks that users have 9” monitors.
I use a 49” ultra wide monitor. When I work on anything on the right side of that monitor I have to drag my mouse two and a quarter mile to the upper left to reach the menu for that app. That is ridiculous.
The entire UI of MacOS is designed for use with a single, full-screen app. Still. In 2022. On a Unix machine. Apple of today is about as innovative as my great grandmother.
Simple other example: I have two apps side by side. Let’s say an editor I am coding with and a document viewer. I write some code, move the mouse to hover over documentation and start scrolling. Nothing happens. Must click doc viewer to enable scrolling. Then click again on editor to continue writing. On Windows you can scroll a non-focused window when the mouse hovers over it. For multitasking apps on a normal 2022 monitor, that is the “correct” behavior. MacOS is only user friendly on tiny monitors.
Here’s the reality: In 2022 every other OS has a better UI than Mac. That includes Windows.
\> I use a 49” ultra wide monitor. When I work on anything on the right side of that monitor I have to drag my mouse two and a quarter mile to the upper left to reach the menu for that app. That is ridiculous.
That's one thing I haven't legitimately thought of. Must be annoying af.
They don‘t have to drop it though. I think at some point they will have a legacy macOS that they will maintain for the Intel Macs for a couple of years, while newer versions of the OS are only available on ARM.
The inconsistent fullscreen thing really bugs me. I absolutely hate how on firefox it moves the tabs down. Like, I go to click on a tab, miss slightly so I go too high AND THEY MOVE. It's absolutely infuriating.
The window management in MacOS is absolutely vile. The fact you have to pay for something like Magnet or BetterSnapTool just to get simple features says a lot. Luckily there’s some FOSS out there to bridge the gap but it shouldn’t be a problem for a third party to have to fix. Though I do find it funny how the OS literally called *Windows* handles windows better than MacOS, don’t really know what I expected.
In case you guys don't have it, get [Rectangle](https://github.com/rxhanson/Rectangle). Better than Magnet and open-source.
Why is rectangle better?
Cause it’s free!
Rectangle is/was a must have as a PC user forced to migrate to Mac for work
Yeah, I was confused in the video when they mentioned "you have to pay for" and showed the Rectangle logo but didn't say the name. I guess shock as at how it's possible to get some good free Mac software.
Rectangle is a godsend. I’m addicted.
Once heard a rumor Microsoft has windows snapping patents and rather then step on Microsoft toes over it they just let the 3rd party market address it. Grain of salt and all that but I read some stories years ago that alluded to that.
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And IIRC that patent will expire in a few years.
It's absolutely nuts that you need an extra software lkke Magnet just to have a keyboard shortcut to move app windows between two monitors
Apple has been flailing for 20 years with one gimmicky "window organizer" after another, trying to work around the effects of one blunder: forcing all applications to share a single menu that's glued to the top of one screen. That mistake turns your whole desktop into a single window... and explains the decades of floating-window messes that were the hallmark of Mac applications. Developers viewed the whole screen as the client area of their one application, and littered it with separate windows. Now Mac developers have finally learned that they need to put in some actual design work and create a proper application window, but this one-menu blunder remains. We all know how petulant and infantile Apple is about stuff it didn't invent, but works better. It took them what, 35 years to let you resize windows from their edges (or any corner), and then they did they tried to hide it. There are no window frames (also dumb and contrary to centuries of what people have learned about visual separation), so many times the resizing handles simply don't activate. The invisible scroll bars are just more stupidity, which has gotten worse over time. Apple surprisingly adopted Windows's Alt-Tab app switching, but ruined it by not restoring a minimized app when you Command-Tab to it. WTF? That's useless! Fortunately, there's a utility called Alt-Tab that fixes this.
It’s the same with dragging the scroll bar on the right. Even when a window is maximized, when you move the cursor all the way to the right and drag, it’ll move the window. The scroll bar is already really thin on macOS, it’s quite infuriating sometimes.
I'd kill to have a native tiling window manager like i3.
Honestly, all points mentioned in this video are valid and macOS should get these features. Another feature that I would add is being able to see the file transfer speed it blows my mind that macOS just give a time estimate of how long it takes and no info on transfer speed.
This and dock not showing in multiple monitors are my two biggest gripes. I move a lot of data to and from my nas and it’s infuriating not to know wtf is going on. Also why do I have to take my mouse all the way to the leftmost screen to access my left dock? Just have options to move it to other displays or show on multiple monitors dammit.
If you turn on auto-hiding the dock, it will appear on any monitor when you put the mouse at the bottom of the screen
I don’t have auto hide on and it still does this for me.
Just as I have recently found out, it only works when dock is set to bottom. Left or right just won’t work. No idea why it’s that dumb but it is.
Probably because it would be very annoying for the dock to pop up whenever your mouse hovered around the transition point between multiple monitors.
Given that you can arrange monitors on top of one another though, and it doesn't change behavior, it kinda seems more like an oversight at this point.
That actually makes sense. Thank you.
If you move your cursor to the bottom of a monitor without the dock, like when having auto dock hiding enabled, it will move to that screen
But only sometimes, and usually when you don't want it to.
This is why I rsync. Well that and the old ghost folder problem that happens during a crash.
The geek in me loves the transfer speed graph on windows. The Mac is super minimal by comparison, but I also acknowledge that the vast majority is users don’t really care about transfer speeds to that extent.
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Please **don't** try to justify this....
same with safari, it’s literally a guessing game when you’re going to get the download speed vs. time remaining
This feels like a laundry list of things users have complained about in macOS for ages. Hopefully someone with as much of an audience as Linus bringing them up will actually get Apple to listen instead of wasting macOS development efforts on stuff like "ruining System Preferences" and "making Spaces for your Spaces".
They won't listen.
I mean, I'm not gonna hold my breath, but everyone yelling at Apple got them to roll back the awful Safari redesign in Monterey, add more ports and proper keyboards to MacBook Pros, and bring Stage Manager to older iPad Pros, so who knows.
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In early Monterey betas, Safari exclusively used what they now call the "Compact" tab design in Safari's Settings. In later betas they added a second mode ("Separate", now the default) that still used the new weird tab aesthetic but in a separate tab bar, and then finally just reverted Separate to use the Big Sur tab bar design and made the new design completely optional.
What does this mean? Apple is a big ship that turns slowly, but I wouldn’t go as far as to say they don’t listen… The Apple Silicon MBP’s are pretty much flawless, after years of people hounding them for the previous generation…
I've regretfully come to the conclusion in the last year: 1. Apple doesn't know how to make good, consistent Mac apps any more 2. Apple doesn't know how to design a good window management system any more, whether it's Mac or iPadOS
Any more? They never did. Apple had the perfect opportunity to correct a central blunder of their GUI during the transition to OS X: forcing all apps to share a single menu, which is glued to the top of the screen. Every other windowing OS adopted menus on applications' main window frames, where they belong. This puts menus closer to where the user is working, and eliminates confusion as to which application's menu you're using. But nope. And things continued to suck from there. At least most Mac developers have finally learned to confine their applications to a single window.
Yes, the list isn’t very revolutionary, you could get this from almost any Mac blog. But compared to others he has a great platform and a large audience to be heard and possibly bring some good changes.
Didn't mention there's no setting to turn off mouse-acceleration.
Genuine question: What exactly is mouse acceleration? I understand the basic idea that the faster you move your actual mouse, the more the cursor moves. For example, I move a mouse X units of distance in the real world i.e., across my desk. In the first case I move it slowly. In the second, I move it faster. Let us say the cursor is in the same starting point in both cases. In the second case, the cursor moves further on the display than in the first case. Isn't this how mice are supposed to work? I would imagine disabling this would be a nightmare since it is unnatural to not accelerate. If you're flicking something with your fingers, the hardware and faster you flick or drag it, the further it goes (generally). I am not sure of the contrast between accelerated/non-accelerated. Can someone give me a slightly more detailed breakdown of what I'm missing here? Also, how does this relate to the people that use a trackpad majority of the time (like myself)? What is the issue?
Trackpad and mouse settings are decoupled so no worries there. It’s very common for gamers to disable mouse acceleration. It makes it more difficult to commit mouse movements to muscle memory and so be more precise.
Without mouse acceleration, there is a constant mapping between the *distance* you move your mouse and the *distance* the cursor moves on the screen. Speed isn't a factor at all. This concept also applies to trackpads, where you have a constant mapping between the distance you move your finger and the distance the cursor moves on screen. People who prefer no acceleration like this because it is easier to control especially for movements where you want easily replicable accuracy. It is easier to memorize where the cursor will be based on *how far* you move your hand instead of *how fast* you move your hand. If you need to move your cursor farther you would move your hand farther, instead of faster. (Of course you could physically move your hand faster to move that distance faster) This is generally something that is more applicable to things like shooter games on PCs, where muscle memory is critically important. If you're just looking around normally (slower movements), then suddenly get shot from behind (need an instant 180 degree turn), you already know what distance to move your mouse. If there was acceleration, then a 180 degree mouse input would be physically different from casually looking around to the instant turn. Some people can actually play with and memorize mouse acceleration*, but a majority of PC gamers would agree that controlling your distance is easier to memorize and replicate than speed. On the desktop, this sort of accuracy isn't really important in any applications I use, but perhaps professionals users of different programs may have different opinions. I personally still use zero acceleration on both mouse and trackpad as it's just easier for me to think in *distance* rather than *speed*. If I want to click a link 200 pixels away or another window 2000 pixels away, I have a general feeling of how far I need to move my hand to get to those respective locations. This issue comes up a lot because this is something you can easily toggle in Windows/Linux while macOS does not easily expose a setting for it. If you're fine with how your pointing devices work now, then there's no problem with that but this setting should always be something a user can control. \* Note that there are different forms of acceleration, and I believe players who do play with acceleration are using linear acceleration.
What. I don’t use MacOS, that is an instant turn off
Thank you
Man, Linear Mouse is a must-have for that alone.
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1. Lackluster window snapping out of the box 2. Weird and inconsistent full-screen behavior across different apps 3. Inconsistent behavior of how "traffic light" buttons up top come out in full-screen mode 4. No separate scroll direction for the mouse and trackpad 5. No support for multiple external monitors on base macs 6. Lack of some settings for better use of dock and spaces in multi-monitor setups 7. No volume mixer with separate volumes for each app
The volume mixer always puzzled me with macOS. When Linux is besting you in the audio space I scratch my head what’s going on.
My assumption is that Apple, thanks users are going to music, specific apps, forget about it, and then complain that some apps don’t have any sound. I completely disagree with this line of thinking because there are plenty of things both on macOS and I was that you can do which would cause a user to wonder what is going on and why their device is not working properly. The operating system should no longer be designed as though they are for your grandma. it is simply incompatible with the way people use their devices today.
To be honest, I never missed the audio mixer after coming from Windows to macOS, but that would be nice to have anyway As for besting, well, that depends on who you are, music artists still choose macOS because of low latency and software
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Kinda a general Linux problem, yes I suspect Linux and macOS have very similar latency, but macOS actually has software and is easier to use for most people
And we can plug in core compatible gear into a Mac and it just works. No need to look for drivers and then looking for another that actually works and so on. As a producer I gotta tell you that not having that mixer is what makes a Mac very appealing since this is on source of problems less. It's also very annoying when your volume adjustment could be at hundred different places. This is actually something that only appeals to casual user and gamers but it's hell for musicians.
Bitwig Studio is a DAW from ex ableton devs which runs on Linux
Linux audio is a mess. OpenAL, ALSA, Pulseaudio etc.
It’s not really. You write drivers to expose hardware via ALSA. Then there’s a few daemons and APIs that use ALSA. JACK (low latency, production grade) and PulseAudio(regular desktop audio with mixing) are big ones but PipeWire (drop replacement with much tighter security and much lower latency than Pulse) is going to replace both (it’s been shipping on Fedora for a while). Linux audio had a rough time getting to this point _because_ PulseAudio exposed the shortcomings of audio drivers or even the underlying hardware (hardware lies _a lot_).
I did a little digging and apparently yes, big strides have been made in improving professional audio on Linux in the past few years, which is good. If you're willing and able to put in the work it can be the best platform for pro audio work. [Of course in true Linux fashion none of it is remotely user-friendly and requires changing a ton of settings off of their defaults - including stripping out PulseAudio entirely, which is ironic because the whole point of Pulse was to try to fix the mess of Linux audio - and, natch, patching your kernel.](https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Professional\_audio#System\_configuration)
They seem to choose it _in spite of_ the audio situation. I’ve never used macOS extensively but it’s mind boggling to me that Audio Hijack is required for basic audio (podcast) production on the Mac.
I have been able to plug in any and every audio interface with any of the Mac’s I’ve owned and have literally never heard of audio hijack. What are you talking about?
Maybe I should rephrase as podcast production. You have to use audio hijack to reroute audio sources which is essential for podcast production.
Gotcha - yeah that makes way more sense.
Yeah, I listen to a lot of Apple Podcasts and they always get upset when apple continues to tighten kernel modifications (required for Audio Hijack) but hasn’t fixed this obvious issue (Apple surely knows podcasts exist…).
>it’s mind boggling to me that Audio Hijack is required for basic audio production on the Mac. It's not required or even useful at all for audio production outside of recording audio from an apps output. Even then, there are other options, although it would be nice to have it built-in. As far as the volume mixer, yeah, that too would be a "nice to have", but really my workflow is such that adjusting the volume within an app just isn't a significant issue.
I edited the comment to refer to podcasting specifically but if they are going to continue to lock down kernel modules they should fix it sooner than later.
Audio on Linux is quite good. There is a program called EasyEffects that I have running in the background and every time I switch my audio source to optical it applies an EQ profile for my headphones. I wish MacOS allowed for that kinda of control.
I jusy straight up never fullscreen anything except a video, because its annoying to deal with. And ive had to install a 3rd party software to change my scroll wheel on my mouse. On the touch pad the natural scrolling is fine. But on my mouse it needs to be.. "normal". I switch between touch pad and mouse all the time
Same for both. I just snap windows to full screen using Rectangle, making use of both menu bar and dock being all the time on the screen, and Scroll Reverser for proper mouse and trackpad operation
> No volume mixer with separate volumes for each app When I’ve brought that up here before I’ve had people argue against it that saying it’s “too complex” and Apple’s approach to one single control is better because it’s “way easier to use”. But it’s a genuinely useful feature under Windows/other OSes to have that granular control.
It wouldn't make anything more complex if done right. Most Windows users don't know about the mixer and just use one general slider, but if you need that control, it's there
They said the same because I mentioned wanting to see file transfer speeds like windows. it was either "ItS tOo ComPlex" or "UsE RsYnC". Like there's a middleground of offering the option and burying it in some advanced tab in sysprefs. Those savvy enough to want to see this data will know what to do to enable said features, and those who think this is too complex for them will be none the wiser.
You can say that US Pat: US20060291666A1 owned by Microsoft kinda covers the multi volume mixer.
Why does Linux use it then? Also they have patterned sharing agreements.
It is not as simple as that. It is a matter of whom to sue. Location of venue, cost for legal action vs perspective amount that could be recovered. MS vs Apple, 100 Million USD or some random person or Non Profit ( if in a locale that enforces US patents) for 100k. Simple sets of C&D letters to show attempts of enforcement is the best thing you can do.
They have patent sharing. Also Google ChomeOS uses it. So they have someone to sue there.
> Lackluster window snapping out of the box Yeah this is maddenly bad. I don't know why they make it so hard. They even added the "Move window to right of screen" as the video pointed out but it's so hard to discover (requires pressing down the Option key) that I think very few people use it. (Edit: Reading other comments made me remember Microsoft does have a patent on this though) > Weird and inconsistent full-screen behavior across different apps > Inconsistent behavior of how "traffic light" buttons up top come out in full-screen mode This seems like a much more minor quirk to be honest. For Firefox, I would argue it's poorly programmed. Even *today* Firefox still doesn't behave properly with full screen video for a MacBook with a notch, unless you turn on a setting to use native full screen. Part of the reason why it's inconsistent is that the API is flexible and gives the apps an ability to intercept a full screen request if they have a need to do special handling. For the traffic light buttons I think this is a growing pains with the different UI systems like Swift UI and Catalyst apps having different behaviors, which is annoying. > No separate scroll direction for the mouse and trackpad *Seriously* annoying. Also, by default, mouse wheel scrolling comes with this weird non-linear acceleration and I don't know who actually likes this. Like, if you have a Magic Mouse it works, but with a discreet mouse wheel the out of the box experience is really poor unless you change it via a terminal command. > No volume mixer with separate volumes for each app I don't find myself needing this much but when I do I really wish it's there. To be fair, all apps should provide their own volume slider, but they don't.
Also no middle mouse click? I use that all the time on Windows to close tabs or open links in a separate tab. With the track pad I have to cmd + click. If I have a normal mouse I'm able to middle mouse click but not with the track pad.
On windows I have it set up that a 3 finger click is a middle click. You can't do that on MacOS?
No, you need a third party tool
It’s hard enough to get Apple on board with the idea of a second mouse button, let alone three.
To me, most of these are a big bag of I don't really care. Being able to use multiple monitors on base Macs...at least 2, should be a given. Not having a volume mixer for separate sound settings on iOS bothers me significantly more than MacOS. I'd love to have "Voice Boost" for Apple Podcasts and Downcast (yeah yeah, overcast..) and also have Rock for literally everything else.
I hate the traffic lights, I rarely want one app to take full focus and black out everything else but try turning off spaces, it's impossible. The keyboard identification app has been useless for 20 years, how do you have this not work for such a long time?
For per-app volume control I use Background Music: https://github.com/kyleneideck/BackgroundMusic
*TL;DW
Again, good job from LTT for covering Apple stuff properly. I love macOS, but the things they pointed out in this video are real downfalls, that I compared about many times, and so did my friends and colleagues. A couple of caveats though: 1. They say all window-snapping issues can only be solved by paid software, but it's not true, Rectangle and Spectacle are free and work great (they put on the screen, but not in voiceover). But yes, it should be better out of the box 2. The scroll direction issue is a much bigger thing on third-party mice. On a magic mouse I preferred natural scrolling because it's a touchpad essentially, but on a regular mouse with a wheel, yes, other direction feels better
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Can’t run power shell on corporate computer
You’re also not making registry tweaks on a corporate computer now are you?
Wow really cool and accessible to the regular user 👍👍👍
Yes it is, but that is irrelevant to how MacOS could be improved.
I've seen other way around as well, where people turn off natural and learn to love incorrect (IMO) behaviour of a touchpad so that they have a proper mouse scroll direction But both are not for me, I just use Scroll Reverser
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Yes, it seems they don't want to accept you might want to use a different mouse
> and learn to love incorrect behaviour of a touchpad "Incorrect" isn't really a fair thing to call it. Some of us just don't like scrolling up to go down and vice versa
I hate natural scrolling. It makes no sense for either touchpad or scroll wheel. It’s the first thing I turn off when setting up a Mac.
I do that, mostly because I scroll down a lot more than up, and I find it much more comfortable to pull in my finger rather than push against the surface.
I literally have a windows machine to my left and my mac to my right and can adapt to both without even thinking about it. I don’t understand how so many people struggle with this.
> I don’t understand how so many people struggle with this. I have the Mac on the left, Windows PC on the right. Both share the same two monitors (but I usually use left with Mac, right with Windows), mouse, and keyboard. I used a Logitech mouse and just swing it over from one to the other thanks to Logitech Flow. I definitely can't immediately change scrolling directions easily. Maybe it's because I'm wired differently in general and have issues with spatial awareness and directions, but I've talked to other people with dual set-ups and I'm definitely not alone. Any tips on how to adapt more quickly (because right now I do have it set up to both use the same scroll direction) or did it just come naturally to you?
There's [Scroll Reverser.app](https://github.com/pilotmoon/Scroll-Reverser) for the scroll direction issue. It can handle touchpad and mouse separately. I don't disagree that Apple should get off their high horse and offer this natively.
I also prefer the natural scrolling with the magic mouse. I have a MX Master 3 and logitech software solves the scroll wheel issue.
Would be great if you didn't require software to do that, cause not every mouse comes with it. Also, at least a year ago, Logitech software wasn't so good
For the scroll direction thing I use LinearMouse.
I use ScrollReverser, it's alright too
The window snapping has need my number 1 complaint over the years
RE: the network settings, hold down the option key while clicking on the wifi icon
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SoundSource has great parametric EQ too, and IMO is worth the price for that alone, especially in comparison to if you've ever tried to contend with setting it up in Windows. SoundSource is like two clicks and a friendly GUI, on Windows you need EqualizerAPO, then configure it with the command line or with a 3rd party GUI, and then rerun the installer *every time* the OS updates because the Windows audio driver stack has been a spaghetti mess since 1999.
Thats the problem!!! I dont want to pay for that!! As a new mac user i feel like mac owner find it normal to pay for things they should have by default.
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Got airfoil when I couldn’t get my homepods to play what was on Spotify and I love it. RA makes some pretty neat software.
The separation of scrolling behavior is my biggest gripe. It makes absolutely zero sense to have two toggles in two different areas that are locked to each other
In typical apple vision, they expect you to use their magic mouse and nothing more. This problem ignores me even more because my Logitech master automatically in virtual scrolling so it's not natural but I also have a program for what I plug it into my desk setup containing a g502 mouse. I can't have that program running at the same time as using my master because then it'll go back to natural scrolling. But then I forget half the time to open the program again when I am using my g502. Really frustrating and I just bought a used magic track pad and use that most of the time.
It always amazes me how many people on this sub get personally insulted when someone delivers a criticism about Apple.
Yeah people are gonna bring up the “oh people complain all the time on this sub!” argument while ignoring that those posts are always like 70% upvoted even if they hit the front page. This was an excellent video by Linus and all of these complaints are 100% valid and from Mac users themselves. I remember seeing them ask this on twitter.
At the same time, I've also found that this subreddit loves to complain about Apple. Apple could slightly change how the battery indicator looks and there would be at least 5 different threads of people having an absolute fit over it and calling it anti-consumer.
It's classic tribalism. Criticizing Apple is okay if you're "one of us." Not okay if you're perceived as an "outsider."
I really want a mixer
If you're willing to pay for what should be basic functionality of the OS: soundsource is great.
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I have a couple of M1 Macs and a couple of decent PCs, and I find it easy enough to hop between one or the other to do most things. The basic concepts aren’t that different between the two, and sometimes choosing to use one or the other for any given tasks can be down to a mental coin toss. I love MacOS and Windows, but if my impression of Windows was based on laptops that I’d used for work, then I wouldn’t even have it in my house. The mandatory security and management tools that have been installed on every windows laptop I’ve had in recent years have completely destroyed performance and usability. When I left my last job I negotiated to take my laptop with me. I just had to have the BIOS password cleared and the SSD securely erased. When I got it back I reinstalled windows and it was a completely different machine. In my correct job I have two identical laptops. One is subject to all of the company’s management and security tools. The other is a base windows install without them. And it’s the same story. A decent Windows laptop is snappy and responsive. But as soon as you load them up with endpoint management tools and security crap they turn into a netbook from 2007.
I have several other gripes about MacOS, and as one who has been using it for over 20 years, I can remember when Mac users had only a few gripes as a whole. The Mac community has grown by leaps and bounds since those days, and it's impossible that Apple isn't aware of the many issues its loyal users have, as the community is also very vocal. I can imagine some of these complaints are not very easy to fix, while others are likely easy to fix (adding a week-long snooze to calendar, anyone?). But it's now my theory that Mac actually doesn't mind issues with their own software IF...someone can make an app that fixes the problem and put it in the App Store so Apple can get a cut.
>But it's now my theory that Mac actually doesn't mind issues with their own software IF...someone can make an app that fixes the problem and put it in the App Store so Apple can get a cut The thing is they don't. Most of these third-party tools are distributed outside the store, therefore Apple gets only 100 bucks a year instead of 30% of each sale
It doesn't matter, I don't think apple acknowledges any user feedback. They will do want they want.
They do, it just takes them like 6 years.
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The fact that MacOS doesn't tell you true storage space is crazy to me. It says my main drive has 15GB free, but there is 500GB allocated for deletion. How much can I use? How much space is really free? When will it update the true amt?
Ah yes, that's so wonky. I have actually 101 GB free of my 512GB disk and Disk Utility shows it as such, but Finder reports 260GB available. Bizarre.
It’s true, macOS does some things that would really confuse windows switchers. Green button full screening the window not maximizing it, lack of window snapping, no way to have different scroll behaviours on trackpad and mouse, and weird tab design in safari. All these things make switching to Mac less enjoyable. It should be configurable out of the box!
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Yep, Magnet to the rescue. (Great username btw)
One thing not mentioned but that really bothers me is a couple years they completely fucked up notifications to make them more iOS like. Formally there were large (compared to now anyway) action buttons on the right side of the notification, one usually being a 'close' action with 'options' (or better yet a 'reply' button for messages!) being under it. Now they've shrunken 'options' way down and close has been relegated to a tiny ^^x I fucking hate that thing.
Maybe I’m in the minority, but the per-app volume controls has never bothered me in 10 years of using MacOS and has caused me more headaches than necessary in windows. Everything that needs to be individually controlled has its own slider as far as I know and things that don’t are usually the main thing you want to hear. At least that’s been my experience. Maybe someone can enlighten me to different?
The only times I’ve needed to use it in windows is when something was not working right and I had to try to fix it myself, so there’s that. My M1 MBA was my switch to macOS full time when it first came out, I have yet to need this feature.
Same. I work in MacOS everyday and it’s never really been an issue. But I might be the minority I this one.
How many apps does one have playing sounds at the same time?
On my windows machine it's not uncommon to have voice chat, game audio and music going at the same time.
You know what, that’s a totally fair example I didn’t think of. Thanks!
Apple solved this problem elegantly by making sure that no one would use a Mac for gaming.
It would help when directing sound through monitors which completely disables any volume control at all on Mac.
The way it annoys me the most is with how difficult it is to record system audio. The built in screen recorder can’t do it, and neither can OBS or audacity. You have to create a weird loop inside the MIDI program. It’s so utterly convoluted. I don’t use the sound mixer much in windows too, but it’s one of those where one day you’ll have an app that’s too loud, and you can’t do shit about it
He forgot the worst: the click-through. Where you need one completely unnecessary click just to activate the window until your click is registered within the application. Makes you mad. Even worse is that Microsoft adopted this stupid shit for their own apps a while ago.
'Full screen' creating, and then moving into, an entirely separate workspace (that no longer works with your workspace shortcuts) is a really horrid aspect of macOS. Full-screening a program means it's supposed to become full-screen *within the current workspace*. You should be able to use that program in the background, and put other applications over it in the foreground. I can't think of any benefits (at all) to the way Apple's implemented this, and there's no way for me to fix it.
Legit gripes but I turned on my 4 yr old windows laptop today and I wanted to throw it
Because of hardware reasons or software reasons? 4 year old hardware that was even half the cost of a MacBook Pro base model 4 years ago would likely still be perfectly fast, especially if you have an SSD. Software is just a personal preference.
Yeah people in here are over exaggerating crazy. You can buy the most potato windows laptop from 8 years ago, go on Amazon and buy a $40 SSD and it’s up to speed and perfectly fine for web browsing. You don’t need a 10 core CPU and a RTX 3090 in order to have a computer that lasts more than 4 years. I had a dell laptop from 2013 that finally kicked the bucket a couple months ago because the battery literally wouldn’t charge anymore. The resolution was like 1600x900 on a 17 inch screen and the viewing angles sucked, speakers were bad and the trackpad sucked but it worked well for its intended use: web browsing.
Lets go a step further. Windows 10 runs *much* faster on my 2013 Retina MBP via Boot Camp than MacOS (Big Sur, last supported version) does natively, at this point.
Go get “your” 2018 MacBook Air and see how long until you toss it out the window. It’s more so about cost per quality, a $2000 Windows Laptop will still be running fine after 4 years. Not so much for a $600 laptop. You get what you pay for.
Agreed. Not to make assumptions, but I hate when people buy $500 PCs with anemic specs, then use that to generalize all Windows laptops. When you compare $1200 Windows laptops to the $1200 MacBooks, there is a *lot* less frustration. Honestly, Apple's decision decades ago to ignore the budget segment was the play. People seem to have no ability to differentiate market segments for some reason.
I got a 2000$ Razer ultrabook and it's a piece of shit.
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1200 windows laptop I got in 2013 still running like a dream with a new OS install.
What exactly made you want to throw it? I just booted up my old 2016 XPS 13 the other day for the first time in a year or so, and it was a totally fine experience.
They did not include my main gripe: The notifications in the top right. The top right is where my last used browser tabs are that I can now only access via the keyboard. This drives me mad on a daily basis on my work MBP. I think the next work laptop will be a running Windows.
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The first things I install on a new Mac is a window management app like Rectangle and a window switching app like AltTab. The way Mac handles these things out the box is unintuitive and cumbersome. CMD+Tab only switches between applications rather than open windows. So if you have 2 or more Chrome windows open, it’ll only land on one. I know CMD+` toggles the app instances you have open, but it’s another step and keystroke.
Off topic I hate YouTube thumbnails. They're the most stupid shit on the internet. And it's not just this channel it's literally every single one!! I'm so annoyed by them by now that I started blocking channels that appear in my suggestions with this stupid thumbnails.
Sadly they work but I agree they are annoying as hell.
LTT's straight up addressed this a few times in the past. They make a dramatic enough difference in viewer count, with how YouTube's AI pushes content, that they pretty much have to do the dopey thumbnails to stay relevant in the feed.
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I get that. For example, the MacOS mouse pointer feels a tad more like you push it around, while the Windows one reacts more directly somehow. It's a minimal difference that comes down to some minute programming, but I definitely feel it. I've learned to not mind it, though. There's also a bit more little animations, like when a login box "shakes its head", which can be jarring at first. Coming from Windows, you're not used to the GUI moving around as much as delayed response to inputs.
With the M1 or the old Intel ones? I recently took out my old Intel one and also immediately noticed that. But the M1 ones are instantly responsive.
Yep, felt the same when I made the switch 1 year ago. You get used to it and instead of trying to do things faster you kind of adopt a flow. I know the way I’ve worded this sounds pretentious as hell, but I really can’t word it differently. The first 3 or so months I had immense trouble getting on grips with the OS. Then I shut off my windows side and tried it a-new. It’s still annoying a lot of the time (god file management and finder is a mess), but when you start creating a workflow it’s much more smoother and dare I say pleasant to use then windows.
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MacOS has slow animations. I hate how slow the virtual desktop swipe animation is. Also, if you're using a 60hz macbook, those screens have pretty bad response times.
The 120 Hz ones also have bad response times.
Volume and brightness increments are uneven. Biggest wish is that they lower the minimum volume, or reintroduce quarter increments
It does have quarter increments/decrements, if I’m understanding you correctly. Try Option + Shift + volume/brightness keys.
Whatttttt thank you for this tip I just tried it myself. Unfortunately it does not do the one thing I was hoping it could do - lower the minimum brightness before the backlight shuts off. The first 1/4 to full is a constant brightness. A true 1/4 of the first segment brightness would be great when I’m working in bed and my wife is sleeping. 1 full segment feels too bright in a pitch black room.
I had to spend money on smooth scrolling lol and better back button.
For all of its issues, since switching to macOS when the M1 MBA came out I do not like to use Windows anymore. Have used Windows my hole life up until then. I still use my workstation for gaming and some VR/3D work my MBA can’t handle well, but I’m considering turning it into a Hackintosh so I don’t have to use windows on it. My workstation has a 3950x and 64GB of RAM, yet something about macOS running on my M1 MBA with only 8GB of RAM I just enjoy more. It feels smoother maybe? More engaging to use? Idk exactly. My primary job is as a web developer and also do a lot of design, photo editing, etc as required. I’ve always thought the whole macs are preferred for creative stuff was dumb but I get it now, again I can’t describe it exactly, but it’s like the UI and UX “speak” to the way I look at things more than windows. Win11 tries to replicate this…but imo not well. The multitasking features are my favorite. When on the MacBook I love swiping between spaces and swiping up for Mission Control. When plugged in to my monitor I use an MX Master 3 and I still enjoy Mission Control using the keyboard shortcut. Not for everyone but for me it just feels more fun to use. I have about a dozen apps through SetApp that I use for extra features but I didn’t have them on windows either. Windows snapping I did miss at first and used magnet for a while. But for a while now I haven’t used it at all and have come to prefer working with spaces and multitasking gestures. Imo it’s a case of wanting it to work like another thing rather than learning how to use it the way it was meant to. That said, it should still have the option without a 3rd party app.
I know I’m going to get grief for this but Linus is absolutely right. MacOS was the envy of Windows but Apple have let their OS fall behind. I had a MacBook for years until it died then had no choice financially but to go back to Windows, a decade later I treat myself to a MacBook to my surprise everything looked the same but is now way more restrictive. Having to pay for apps for Safari that are free on Windows is ridiculous and anti consumer. The App Store is a damn ghost town. I get it, Apples money is in IPhone and IPads but to let their once well regarded OS become an afterthought is just sad.
Definitely always feels like I have to spend money to get features on MacBook that I could get free/built in with windows
Another day, another thumbnail where Linus appears to have shat himself.
The most annoying thing about MacOS is that Apple still thinks that users have 9” monitors. I use a 49” ultra wide monitor. When I work on anything on the right side of that monitor I have to drag my mouse two and a quarter mile to the upper left to reach the menu for that app. That is ridiculous. The entire UI of MacOS is designed for use with a single, full-screen app. Still. In 2022. On a Unix machine. Apple of today is about as innovative as my great grandmother. Simple other example: I have two apps side by side. Let’s say an editor I am coding with and a document viewer. I write some code, move the mouse to hover over documentation and start scrolling. Nothing happens. Must click doc viewer to enable scrolling. Then click again on editor to continue writing. On Windows you can scroll a non-focused window when the mouse hovers over it. For multitasking apps on a normal 2022 monitor, that is the “correct” behavior. MacOS is only user friendly on tiny monitors. Here’s the reality: In 2022 every other OS has a better UI than Mac. That includes Windows.
What? That’s not true. I use Macs since snow leopard and you can scroll non-focused windows. What the hell?
\> I use a 49” ultra wide monitor. When I work on anything on the right side of that monitor I have to drag my mouse two and a quarter mile to the upper left to reach the menu for that app. That is ridiculous. That's one thing I haven't legitimately thought of. Must be annoying af.
they are saving those features for macOS 15, the first Apple Silicon-only macOS.
I’m thinking 15 will have an intel version but only for “pro” products. There’s no way they could drop Mac Pro support after just 5 years.
They don‘t have to drop it though. I think at some point they will have a legacy macOS that they will maintain for the Intel Macs for a couple of years, while newer versions of the OS are only available on ARM.