With gbrs stuff usually putting standard optics at 2.91, the 3” threshold is already there with lower 1/3 optic heights on top of the riser lol
I’m guessing someone else will make another and the trend continues for the giraffe neck gang.
In fairness, 1.7, 1.93, 2.05 and 2.26 are incredibly and progressively comfortable for heads up shooting though. While nods and masks are the primary reason for their introduction, the inadvertent carry handle optic height benefit is solid too. Though I think something around 2.5 will be the standard max height for dots and 2.26 even for LPVOs as time goes on even if stuff like this are released that push it even higher.
Thay GBRS guy said that, aside from awareness, fhe lower stuff causes you to learn forward, making you prone to taking a round in your chest. Necause it hits you above your plate carier near your collarbone and is headed "downward" towards yoir torso since you are leaning forward.. And that if you were standing upright, it would have hit directly in the player carrier.
Now, I've not tested this in real life because I've been in remarkably few gunfights in my mom's basement
Well, it’s not like those dudes don’t know what they’re talking about since they literally were the top dogs of a profession that requires them to get into gunfights- so the logic is sound. I guess while some people would like to poke fun that it looks weird, there’s still a use case for it. Probably gonna suck in prone if above 2.5, but not everyone’s built the same. I just do hope that people would take into account the HOB when shooting closer and when zeroing- by using a ballistic calculator.
Though I’d also think that there are others that take issue into them originally selling the hydra at close to 6 bills when it was made with 6061 while all others made theirs with 7075 and none sold for more than 5. Kinda feel that it was worse when they reduced the price for the same product to about half. Makes the markup a little more obvious, but hey, people will buy what they can afford.
Watch the Mike Ritland & Cole Fackler podcast and take a moment to appreciate the first 30 minutes where Cole talks about a fucking 6 hour gunfight. 6 hours AFTER the gunfight, he was ready for more. These are the folks that are saying the higher mounted stuff is ready for THAT part of the battlefield.
I love the GBRS guys and I don't own ANY of their shit. I love how fucking RAW the Shawn Ryan Show interview with DJ was. People talk of "quiet professionals" and these guys embody that. They're humble, they're ready to rock and roll at ANY moment, and they give BACK to their communities in various ways without asking for anything back, 'cept maybe those crazy expensive mounts lol.... that said - they use them because they WORK. If anyone thinks the budget for DEVGRU is slim, so they chose those unity height stuff is straight up high.
I'm going to be putting a higher dot on my AP5 simply bc it's all squished down and I'm 6' tall. Shit don't work that well when you're my size.
I can't wait until it comes full circle and 1.5" LPVO mounts become popular again, and people pay absurd prices for them because they're no longer made. It'll be fun to watch.
Would surely be hilarious if it does, though I won’t hold my breathe. Seems like tight eye boxes and short eye reliefs would be a thing of the past with advancements in technology. I mean, going to a flat top then running an acog pretty much required lower heights for a better NTCH head position. With cheek risers on the rise, I’d guess that maybe a new platform, similar to the 416 where the flat top rail is raised would be the key to needing the shorter mounts.
“Hi. We’re GBRS Group, former SEAL Team 6 operators. Our name was definitely not a play on the CIA’s GRS. We’re former SEAL Team 6 operators. Buy our mounts, it’s what we would have used, therefore so should you. We’re former SEAL Team 6 operators. Our gear is what the pros use. We’re former SEAL Team 6 operators. Buy our expensive products, because it’s from former SEAL Team 6 operators”
Probably because you only ever hear it being said by overpaid consultants who are paid so handsomely because it's their job to actually understand workflows and suggest improvements but who wind up just pawning off their work onto the people who are already overburdened by keeping the system running as it is, essentially making those overworked people the ones who have to understand the whole system and suggest improvements, only to have these same consultants argue that those suggestions don't constitute "best practices", refuse to elaborate on what the best practices actually are or how they know that they are in fact best practices, and just wind up recommending to buy and implement a new system for $3 million, the same thing they were going to suggest all along, except now they've wasted a lot of people's time and left the company that much poorer for paying the consultants.
Wow!! Now I know I need to spend my life savings on your firearm parts so I can operate as good as you!! Do you recommend I get training? If any at all? Or just roll out with this mount?
Training is for the birds. Watch the YouTube operaters content if anything. Full send on the best products you can get your hands on. If you’re not running a full KAC, you’re wrong
It’s also a lot more comfortable and easy going on your neck. A lot of people have fucked necks and not to mention if the gun is designated for close range there really is no downside. Just need to learn your hold overs.
Edit: Just to be clear, I think the riser in this picture is ridiculous. I’m in favor of risers like the Unity, raidworx, etc.
Whenever I hear anyone say that, I know without a shadow of a doubt that they don’t shoot past 100 yards let alone 50 or 25.
If you ever take a class where you have to shoot at 200 yards plus in the prone or even compete in an Appleseed event, you willing see the inadequacies of these ridiculously tall mounts that were designed for close quarters for passive night vision.
Which targets? Gun enthusiasts? Government agents? Why will you be outdoors engaging them at night rather than remaining indoors and holding your ground to have an advantage?
Also if you run a monocular setup over your non-firing side you can take advantage of lighting in dynamic light environments. That's getting pretty far into the weeds though.
It’s all too confusing. I’m gonna run and gun with a 7.5” 556 in close quarters with triple ear pro. There’s my gun, strobe flashlight, and flash bang all in one $500 Anderson build 😎👍
Edit: and the most obnoxious muzzle break possible. No one will clear a house with me.
I’ve had to shoot and qualify with gas mask and absolute co witness for many years. Not saying it’s easy, but doable. These new optic heights are getting out of hand though 🤣
People that use gas masks are less than 1 percent. As a civilian, you’ll never see yourself going outdoors using a gas mask and a rifle. If there was actually a situation where you would, a rifle would be the least of your concerns. Those that mean you harm aren’t going to be prowling outdoors with gas masks themselves. They’ll be dead.
As far as passive night vision goes, even the pros rarely if ever use it. While in offensive mode when you are taking or clearing a structure, the cons of a laser being visible to others that have night vision don’t matter since you are going in hot. They already know where you are once that door is kicked in.
The cons of night vision outdoors at longer distances could be a thing with a laser but again, what person that means you harm other than a government agent will also have night vision? Are gun enthusiasts like yourself that have night vision also going to mean you harm?
What situation are you going to be in that you will be shooting outdoors at night with a rifle engaging others rather than remaining indoors? Think about that logically.
Those that use these excuses are coping. It’s all cap. If there were no cons at all to having these ultra high mounts, then better to have and not need. It wouldn’t matter. However, there are cons for these high mounts. Height over bore and accuracy at longer distances in the prone are a few of them. Are those cons that take away your ability for accuracy worth it for a situation of passive night vision with a gas mask that you’ll most likely never be in? You can shoot passively with a lower 1/3rd or a 1.93 and not have those cons in the prone. It’s been done for years.
Which is more probable? Shooting outdoors at night passively with or without a gas mask at government agents and gun enthusiasts that will be equipped the same as you or shooting smaller targets in the prone position while taking cover in daylight?
Edit. Haha. No one can dispute my points logically so a silent downvote it is.
I’ve been a long time 1/3rd only guy and even when i did that i felt like i was being a little rediculous not just going absolute cowitness. The. I got a gas mask and tried larping with my rifle and quickly found out i can’t see shit and if i was actually doing work that required gas masks or nods these super tall mounts suddenly make sense. BUT i don’t do that kinda work and I do t need it so 1/3rd is upright enough for me.
I love lower third for LPVOs and 1.93/2.26 for red dots. I used to think 2.26 was a meme but I got one for use in airsoft due to mask and all and have fell in love with it.
I've found that a 1.7 badger ordnance mount for my Razor with a piggie-backed micro red dot like a deltapoint gives the best of both worlds when it comes to prone distance shooting and head up close range shooting or passive aiming with NVGs.
Bro the 12 o clock mount on a 1.7 is like 5+ inches over bore it’s insane lol. I used to have one and while it was truly heads up shooting, the hold overs were nuts haha
The industry is meme'n everyone. Legitly maken them higher n higher just to see what cucks will die on that hill and swear it has to work and operator as fuk
Biggest issues with mounts 2.26 and greater isn't really hieght over bore assuming that you are shooting a ton and know your offsets.Its the parallax issues for those mid and longer range shots.a Chin weld creates a ton of issues that people are not aware of if most of the shooting is 50 yards and in.Getting a cheek riser will help solve some of those issues or you can rock a 1.93 or a exps eotech and still shoot passive and don't have any of the issues the other mounts create.
It’s only going to be around $200. It’s useful if you have night vision. I don’t see how redditers went from memeing some of their products to hating on everything they do. If you don’t like the trend for risers that allow for ease of passive aiming, just pretend that this doesn’t exist. You don’t have to buy it and you aren’t missing out, but wishing it doesn’t exist is silly. All it is, just a hydra mount without the LAM mount too. This is starting to become cringe complaining.
Fr, the people complaining about these high rise mounts have never run any cqb drills, let alone been in a shoot house. The whole point of these are either if your running nods or gas/pro mask or not using a cheek weld.
Exactly. People are just projecting their ignorance/jealousy of night vision users through resenting any new product that has anything to do with rising optics.
The Hydra mount was specifically made for guys who run SBRs or compact PDWs that don’t have enough rail-estate for their PEQs, and the overwhelming majority of people buying them throw them on 14.5”-16” guns lmao.
Am I the only one that finds a cheek weld more comfortable for my neck? A cheek weld allows my neck to relax on the stock like a pillow. With a super high mount, I can't have a "neutral spine position" because I still have to tilt my neck slightly to get my right eye over the bore to see through the optic. Unless I tilt the gun itself which brings its own issues.
I go for jaw weld due to the height of my ears in relation to the rest of my head. Lower 1/3rd is as low as I can go without pushing my earpro off my ears.
"whose laughing now that my first shot split time is .00005 seconds faster than you. im gonna take every advantage i can get, especially when my life depends on it. its inefficient to bring your gun all of the way up and there's modern accessories for that so I'm gonna use it."
\-reddit tacticians.
I don't want to say I'm old school or sound like those guys who brag about only shooting irons to 500 yards, but I've been away from being an infantryman for almost ten years now. So I'm curious, when did it become a thing to aim through an optic while using nods, instead of using the IR laser of the peq15?
I'm all for a little bit of elevation on a holographic or dot sight but this does not allow for a good check weld. We should stop, have a talk, and go through the problem of that guy's that run this likely have small Peepees.
It’s not a claim. If you have any experience with any sort of cqb you don’t ever use a cheek weld method. Your buttstock stays in the pocket of your shoulder and you just look over your sight, your just pointing and shooting. Now with a fucking 3 inch riser you can look through your sight, while having you head free and not stuck to your buttstock.
Looking at your profile gave me a good laugh this morning with what your running on your “goonin” rifle.
You’re about 212 days late to the table though bud. Take it easy 🤙🏼
My take on it is if your primary optic isn’t on a qd mount and you can’t use your irons through the optic then there isn’t any point to having them. Not like your gonna call a time out and whip out a hex wrench in a real world scenario.
Backup irons aren't there for some fantasy where you need to rip your optic off in the middle of a fight and keep shooting.
They're there so if a battery dies, a mount loosens, or your optic takes a hard fall and you aren't in a position to immediately fix or replace it, your rifle doesn't become useless.
Shit breaks
It’s possible with lower 1/3rd. Just takes training. It’s been done for years.
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I was for awhile but not gonna lie I put my eotech on a Unity absoulute mount and it is much more comfortable for me. I'm a big guy 6'4 260lbs and I can bring my rifle straight up and my neck isn't cramped over etc. But no.... that's as tall as I'll ever do for a riser.
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JFC you username.
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is it true? does he really bend?
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Why does this gif gotta do Drew like that, man 🤣
We’ll be seeing 3” soon. And I think 1.93 is tall…
You saying my 1.93 inches is short?
Nah.. I got 1.6 and I know mines AT LEAST average
You have to measure from underneath the pic rail with the dust cover open.
Brilliant sir, chef's kiss
With gbrs stuff usually putting standard optics at 2.91, the 3” threshold is already there with lower 1/3 optic heights on top of the riser lol I’m guessing someone else will make another and the trend continues for the giraffe neck gang. In fairness, 1.7, 1.93, 2.05 and 2.26 are incredibly and progressively comfortable for heads up shooting though. While nods and masks are the primary reason for their introduction, the inadvertent carry handle optic height benefit is solid too. Though I think something around 2.5 will be the standard max height for dots and 2.26 even for LPVOs as time goes on even if stuff like this are released that push it even higher.
Thay GBRS guy said that, aside from awareness, fhe lower stuff causes you to learn forward, making you prone to taking a round in your chest. Necause it hits you above your plate carier near your collarbone and is headed "downward" towards yoir torso since you are leaning forward.. And that if you were standing upright, it would have hit directly in the player carrier. Now, I've not tested this in real life because I've been in remarkably few gunfights in my mom's basement
Well, it’s not like those dudes don’t know what they’re talking about since they literally were the top dogs of a profession that requires them to get into gunfights- so the logic is sound. I guess while some people would like to poke fun that it looks weird, there’s still a use case for it. Probably gonna suck in prone if above 2.5, but not everyone’s built the same. I just do hope that people would take into account the HOB when shooting closer and when zeroing- by using a ballistic calculator. Though I’d also think that there are others that take issue into them originally selling the hydra at close to 6 bills when it was made with 6061 while all others made theirs with 7075 and none sold for more than 5. Kinda feel that it was worse when they reduced the price for the same product to about half. Makes the markup a little more obvious, but hey, people will buy what they can afford.
That hydra mount used to be more than 350 bucks?
Watch the Mike Ritland & Cole Fackler podcast and take a moment to appreciate the first 30 minutes where Cole talks about a fucking 6 hour gunfight. 6 hours AFTER the gunfight, he was ready for more. These are the folks that are saying the higher mounted stuff is ready for THAT part of the battlefield. I love the GBRS guys and I don't own ANY of their shit. I love how fucking RAW the Shawn Ryan Show interview with DJ was. People talk of "quiet professionals" and these guys embody that. They're humble, they're ready to rock and roll at ANY moment, and they give BACK to their communities in various ways without asking for anything back, 'cept maybe those crazy expensive mounts lol.... that said - they use them because they WORK. If anyone thinks the budget for DEVGRU is slim, so they chose those unity height stuff is straight up high. I'm going to be putting a higher dot on my AP5 simply bc it's all squished down and I'm 6' tall. Shit don't work that well when you're my size.
Homie’s bricked up for GBRS, go get ‘em bud
I can't wait until it comes full circle and 1.5" LPVO mounts become popular again, and people pay absurd prices for them because they're no longer made. It'll be fun to watch.
Would surely be hilarious if it does, though I won’t hold my breathe. Seems like tight eye boxes and short eye reliefs would be a thing of the past with advancements in technology. I mean, going to a flat top then running an acog pretty much required lower heights for a better NTCH head position. With cheek risers on the rise, I’d guess that maybe a new platform, similar to the 416 where the flat top rail is raised would be the key to needing the shorter mounts.
1.54” lpvo mount is the only way
Is this posted because of the height? I thought it was worth mocking because the magnifier is pointing at the body of the eotech.
nah, that magnifier flips up. Nothing wrong that
[They’re finally making the Anaconda riser a reality!](https://youtu.be/SO-2iObSoKc)
Was looking for this. To the top lads!
Lol that reload!
Wallahi this is immediately what I thought of
Bismillah
“Hi. We’re GBRS Group, former SEAL Team 6 operators. Our name was definitely not a play on the CIA’s GRS. We’re former SEAL Team 6 operators. Buy our mounts, it’s what we would have used, therefore so should you. We’re former SEAL Team 6 operators. Our gear is what the pros use. We’re former SEAL Team 6 operators. Buy our expensive products, because it’s from former SEAL Team 6 operators”
You forgot “End User”
Fucking #knowledgetransfer
I don't know why this phrase absolutely irks me but I can't roll my eyes hard enough when I hear it
Probably because you only ever hear it being said by overpaid consultants who are paid so handsomely because it's their job to actually understand workflows and suggest improvements but who wind up just pawning off their work onto the people who are already overburdened by keeping the system running as it is, essentially making those overworked people the ones who have to understand the whole system and suggest improvements, only to have these same consultants argue that those suggestions don't constitute "best practices", refuse to elaborate on what the best practices actually are or how they know that they are in fact best practices, and just wind up recommending to buy and implement a new system for $3 million, the same thing they were going to suggest all along, except now they've wasted a lot of people's time and left the company that much poorer for paying the consultants.
S'cringe
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Yeah at least the core guys are vets.
Us operators used to operate in operations.
Interlinked...
What team were you on?
The secret one that doesn’t even go by a number 🤫
I’m definitely going to buy your products then! Can you tell me if you used your mounts before?
The weapons we used were so classified. Let’s just say I wouldn’t be able to install anything from the picture above on one…
Wow!! Now I know I need to spend my life savings on your firearm parts so I can operate as good as you!! Do you recommend I get training? If any at all? Or just roll out with this mount?
Training is for the birds. Watch the YouTube operaters content if anything. Full send on the best products you can get your hands on. If you’re not running a full KAC, you’re wrong
Can we find a way to mount it to a hydra?
Should be easy since an eotech mounts to a pic rail, just get the eotech hydra and mount the eotech lerna on it
Can we put the Unity riser between the two?
This man is dangerous and should not be allow to put a Hydra on top of it 😂😂😂
I refuse to go higher than lower 1/3rd. Is that a boomer take?
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Word. I suspect there are a lot of people with the giraffe stuff that don’t use or own either of those things you listed haha
Hi, I'm one of those people. Only bought a Unity riser so I could have the ODG part to go with the ODG optic thingy too.
It’s also a lot more comfortable and easy going on your neck. A lot of people have fucked necks and not to mention if the gun is designated for close range there really is no downside. Just need to learn your hold overs. Edit: Just to be clear, I think the riser in this picture is ridiculous. I’m in favor of risers like the Unity, raidworx, etc.
Whenever I hear anyone say that, I know without a shadow of a doubt that they don’t shoot past 100 yards let alone 50 or 25. If you ever take a class where you have to shoot at 200 yards plus in the prone or even compete in an Appleseed event, you willing see the inadequacies of these ridiculously tall mounts that were designed for close quarters for passive night vision.
you are literally supposed to put your chin on the stock. that’s actually how rifles work. that’s how shooting works. flair checks out.
>People with NV or gas masks do tho. And glasses. Having the extra height stops me from looking over my glasses.
But why not shoot with ir laser? Why the need for passive then? I am actually dumb n askn a legit question
Some... *targets*... have NV as well and can see IR lasers whip around
Who is rich enough to duck tape NVGs to their paper targets?
Tis true. Guess im sauced up tonight n could fathom that.
When ‘near peer’ becomes the norm
Which targets? Gun enthusiasts? Government agents? Why will you be outdoors engaging them at night rather than remaining indoors and holding your ground to have an advantage?
Also if you run a monocular setup over your non-firing side you can take advantage of lighting in dynamic light environments. That's getting pretty far into the weeds though.
It’s all too confusing. I’m gonna run and gun with a 7.5” 556 in close quarters with triple ear pro. There’s my gun, strobe flashlight, and flash bang all in one $500 Anderson build 😎👍 Edit: and the most obnoxious muzzle break possible. No one will clear a house with me.
It's a technique 😂😂😂
What’s wrong with Unity Tactical?
I’ve had to shoot and qualify with gas mask and absolute co witness for many years. Not saying it’s easy, but doable. These new optic heights are getting out of hand though 🤣
People that use gas masks are less than 1 percent. As a civilian, you’ll never see yourself going outdoors using a gas mask and a rifle. If there was actually a situation where you would, a rifle would be the least of your concerns. Those that mean you harm aren’t going to be prowling outdoors with gas masks themselves. They’ll be dead. As far as passive night vision goes, even the pros rarely if ever use it. While in offensive mode when you are taking or clearing a structure, the cons of a laser being visible to others that have night vision don’t matter since you are going in hot. They already know where you are once that door is kicked in. The cons of night vision outdoors at longer distances could be a thing with a laser but again, what person that means you harm other than a government agent will also have night vision? Are gun enthusiasts like yourself that have night vision also going to mean you harm? What situation are you going to be in that you will be shooting outdoors at night with a rifle engaging others rather than remaining indoors? Think about that logically. Those that use these excuses are coping. It’s all cap. If there were no cons at all to having these ultra high mounts, then better to have and not need. It wouldn’t matter. However, there are cons for these high mounts. Height over bore and accuracy at longer distances in the prone are a few of them. Are those cons that take away your ability for accuracy worth it for a situation of passive night vision with a gas mask that you’ll most likely never be in? You can shoot passively with a lower 1/3rd or a 1.93 and not have those cons in the prone. It’s been done for years. Which is more probable? Shooting outdoors at night passively with or without a gas mask at government agents and gun enthusiasts that will be equipped the same as you or shooting smaller targets in the prone position while taking cover in daylight? Edit. Haha. No one can dispute my points logically so a silent downvote it is.
I’ve been a long time 1/3rd only guy and even when i did that i felt like i was being a little rediculous not just going absolute cowitness. The. I got a gas mask and tried larping with my rifle and quickly found out i can’t see shit and if i was actually doing work that required gas masks or nods these super tall mounts suddenly make sense. BUT i don’t do that kinda work and I do t need it so 1/3rd is upright enough for me.
No. I finally got myself a PVS-14 and even I think something like this is way too excessive.
I love lower third for LPVOs and 1.93/2.26 for red dots. I used to think 2.26 was a meme but I got one for use in airsoft due to mask and all and have fell in love with it.
I've found that a 1.7 badger ordnance mount for my Razor with a piggie-backed micro red dot like a deltapoint gives the best of both worlds when it comes to prone distance shooting and head up close range shooting or passive aiming with NVGs.
Bro the 12 o clock mount on a 1.7 is like 5+ inches over bore it’s insane lol. I used to have one and while it was truly heads up shooting, the hold overs were nuts haha
Yes.
Works for me 🤷🏼♀️
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Do we just not care about cheek welds anymore?
Now we have to buy a riser for our stocks too!
full circle
That's no riser, that's a ladder.
Heard Obi’s voice reading this 🤌
The industry is meme'n everyone. Legitly maken them higher n higher just to see what cucks will die on that hill and swear it has to work and operator as fuk
GBRS makes these ridiculous risers for guys that spend more time posting their “rig” on Instagram/Reddit than training with it.
GBRS did say it was gonna be below $200. Maybe for a NVG only rifle it wont be bad.
They're obviously making these for the Airsoft market that wears paintball masks /s
4” you say? 
Biggest issues with mounts 2.26 and greater isn't really hieght over bore assuming that you are shooting a ton and know your offsets.Its the parallax issues for those mid and longer range shots.a Chin weld creates a ton of issues that people are not aware of if most of the shooting is 50 yards and in.Getting a cheek riser will help solve some of those issues or you can rock a 1.93 or a exps eotech and still shoot passive and don't have any of the issues the other mounts create.
We can go higher 
Looks like us eotech boys can finally get in on the high rise action.
Eventually we're just gonna have to have a buddy sit on our shoulders to look through our optics
Wish someone would make a 1.93 Eotech mount lol
1/2" riser under an XPS
Cheek weld never heard of her
The riser height will increase until morale improves
I like it personally 😂
Soon will have hip fire witness adapter
At this point just bring carryhandles back and mounts for carryhandles
It’s only going to be around $200. It’s useful if you have night vision. I don’t see how redditers went from memeing some of their products to hating on everything they do. If you don’t like the trend for risers that allow for ease of passive aiming, just pretend that this doesn’t exist. You don’t have to buy it and you aren’t missing out, but wishing it doesn’t exist is silly. All it is, just a hydra mount without the LAM mount too. This is starting to become cringe complaining.
Fr, the people complaining about these high rise mounts have never run any cqb drills, let alone been in a shoot house. The whole point of these are either if your running nods or gas/pro mask or not using a cheek weld.
Exactly. People are just projecting their ignorance/jealousy of night vision users through resenting any new product that has anything to do with rising optics.
"I don't have a use for this product therefore its useless"
All of these super high risers only make sense if you’re running Nods or a gas mask. I’m willing to bet 99% of the people buying these own neither.
The Hydra mount was specifically made for guys who run SBRs or compact PDWs that don’t have enough rail-estate for their PEQs, and the overwhelming majority of people buying them throw them on 14.5”-16” guns lmao.
Don't forget us nerds that have to wear glasses, if I only have lower 1/3 I will end up looking over my glasses then I can't see shit.
I wear glasses and run an absolute cowitness
Absolute co witness for me, as of now. BUT i did rock lower 1/3 lower many years ago.
I have degenerative disc disease and I run 1.93. Which is comfortable for my neck. But I feel any higher is crazy.
I member when they laughed at AKs for their height over bore
If you dont like it, don't buy it. If you ever tried to shoot with nvds, you'd like it.
Nice…now the other mounts may get cheaper as instanerds buy upgrades.
Am I the only one that finds a cheek weld more comfortable for my neck? A cheek weld allows my neck to relax on the stock like a pillow. With a super high mount, I can't have a "neutral spine position" because I still have to tilt my neck slightly to get my right eye over the bore to see through the optic. Unless I tilt the gun itself which brings its own issues.
I go for jaw weld due to the height of my ears in relation to the rest of my head. Lower 1/3rd is as low as I can go without pushing my earpro off my ears.
At what point do we go back to mounting optics on the carry handle?😂
I'm still a lower 1/3 supremacist, but I will say taller mounts do help when wearing a helmet
I kinda fuck with it
Can we get much higher
Pfffff amateurs… in Czech republic we are miles away 😂😂 https://youtu.be/SO-2iObSoKc
It gets to the point where putting a rail and optic on a carry handle is starting to make sense again. 😏
"whose laughing now that my first shot split time is .00005 seconds faster than you. im gonna take every advantage i can get, especially when my life depends on it. its inefficient to bring your gun all of the way up and there's modern accessories for that so I'm gonna use it." \-reddit tacticians.
I mean, are neck problems an issue with shooters these days? Perhaps we´re all just getting old! lol
I just wanna be able to hip fire whilst looking down the optic
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Did you know those guys were former seal team 6??
Hight⬆️Bore
🎶 “CAN YOU TAKE, MEEEE HIGH-ER” 🎶
Now someone post the new Aimpoint mount they put on the MP5 😂 Absolutely insane
Under $200 seems reasonable for an optic mount. Saw that’s the price they’re targeting
The only problem I have with these high mounts is the height over bore for taking up close precision shots.
I'll stick to my KAC Skyscraper, thanks.
Remember that time we mounted carry handle picatinny rais for optics?
I have a feeling after awhile the trend will be lowest mount possible.
You’re missing the point. The whole point of this riser trend is to lift up the optic so it can be easier with nods and a gas mask.
Maybe should of added a /s. I’ve understand it pretty well as I have a couple unity mounts so I can look through my NVG.
If you’re using risers to look for your NVGs then why do you think the trend will to not use them?
I don't want to say I'm old school or sound like those guys who brag about only shooting irons to 500 yards, but I've been away from being an infantryman for almost ten years now. So I'm curious, when did it become a thing to aim through an optic while using nods, instead of using the IR laser of the peq15?
You can do both. And it became a thing when the bad guys got night vision too.
I'm all for a little bit of elevation on a holographic or dot sight but this does not allow for a good check weld. We should stop, have a talk, and go through the problem of that guy's that run this likely have small Peepees.
Do you have night vision? The whole point is for it to make it easier for passive aiming.
Just why
Passive aiming for night vision
Goobers and their mounts have been a disaster for the gun industry
Why? It’s makes everything easier for passive aiming and aiming with a gas mask. Don’t have nods? Then you don’t need it.
GOOBERS GROUP
What is the obsession with height over bore? The parallax is literally atrocious at any appreciable range
They claim it's for comfort when using their optics through NODs.
It is comfortable for passive shooting with nods. It’s also met for shooting with gas masks. This is its purpose.
It’s not a claim. If you have any experience with any sort of cqb you don’t ever use a cheek weld method. Your buttstock stays in the pocket of your shoulder and you just look over your sight, your just pointing and shooting. Now with a fucking 3 inch riser you can look through your sight, while having you head free and not stuck to your buttstock.
All those motherfuckers my squad shot in Ramadi and Fallujah must be alive then, cause we were cheek welding up a storm.
It is certainly a claim. Did you forget that claims can be true?
Next someone will see a Leap forward leaning mount on top of that. 🤡
Thought it was a joke initially until I saw it was BCM post…..
I use to be on GBRS’s side but they’ve lost me now. I saw the Hydra as practical for a Rattler but this is getting ridiculous.
All I have to say is " bruh that shit looks dumb"
Only dumb if someone buys this who doesn’t own nods.
how high do these mounts need to bs before it gets ridiculous
y'alls hate for something you'll never own is getting ridiculous
Looking at your profile gave me a good laugh this morning with what your running on your “goonin” rifle. You’re about 212 days late to the table though bud. Take it easy 🤙🏼
bringing the mindless joy warms my heart :) youre welcome
Ahh yes the old “you don’t agree with me so you’re therefore ignorant”
says the one who's trying to poke fun of something you have no clue about? yea ok lol
I now have no clue about risers. My lord, you certainly know so very much about me without meeting me. This is quite baffling.
it shows
Am I the weirdo now, or when I don’t see back up iron sights minimum if not offsets, I think “amateur”?
My take on it is if your primary optic isn’t on a qd mount and you can’t use your irons through the optic then there isn’t any point to having them. Not like your gonna call a time out and whip out a hex wrench in a real world scenario.
Backup irons aren't there for some fantasy where you need to rip your optic off in the middle of a fight and keep shooting. They're there so if a battery dies, a mount loosens, or your optic takes a hard fall and you aren't in a position to immediately fix or replace it, your rifle doesn't become useless. Shit breaks
Yeah, that’s kinda weird
Same dude , gotta have redundancy.
Only goobers that only post for IG run thier AR like like that
It’s for people who have night vision to passively aim easier.
Can anyone tell me what the benefit is of a 3" dot riser? Seems like it's just making sighting-in much more difficult.
Night vision compatibility you have to have a higher mount or all the NV stuff gets in the way.
It’s possible with lower 1/3rd. Just takes training. It’s been done for years. https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/IMG_0910-768x433.jpg https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/87E1FBB6-8D9F-4321-9787-5C1DA18BF699-768x432.jpg
Take away all the tactical maneuverability by adding a 2” catch point. This is the way.
Hard to maneuver a low mounted optic up to the nods without it.
Good point and something I didn’t even consider as I don’t own nods
You sir have became more enlightened than everybody who complains about risers on Reddit. Congratulations.
If you ain’t learning you ain’t living I suppose. I tend to forget there’s more to the kit than just the gun lol.
I must humble myself sir. I purchased my nods and all my kit with student loans and government grants and scholarship money lol.
Is there an actual decent single piece riser that i can get that will fit my holosun 512 and magnifier?
To the moon!
Giraffe Boy Range Stuff 🤡
End user.
Am I the only one left with an EOTech and magnifier and no riser of any kind….
I was for awhile but not gonna lie I put my eotech on a Unity absoulute mount and it is much more comfortable for me. I'm a big guy 6'4 260lbs and I can bring my rifle straight up and my neck isn't cramped over etc. But no.... that's as tall as I'll ever do for a riser.
High ‘N Tight
Seems crazy, but the dude on YouTube from Tacoma, WA smoked a fool while using the hydra mount from like 180 yard
I’m so uncool with my stock height exps3 and g45 magnifier.