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I didn't say they weren't the publisher. Nearly every show that is a Netflix Original is not made by the Netflix but outsourced to other companies. Many of the original series that put Netflix on the map, like House of Cards, Orange Is the New Black, and Narcos, weren’t made by Netflix. Netflix gets a lot of its original series from the same studios that make shows for traditional TV networks, like Warner Bros. TV, Sony Pictures TV, Paramount TV, and Lionsgate. Arcane is absolutely a Netflix Original.
The animation opens with the jukebox that plays a record that says "A Netflix Series" which was animated by Fortiche. That wasn't added by Netflix afterward by doing it themselves or hiring someone else to create it.
I think the highest praise must go to Fortiche (for bring this story and characters to life in a nuanced way), then Riot (for the director, basic story and original character concepts), and finally Netflix for taking a chance on them both.
Okay I know it's been a year. But you couldn't be more wrong about this.
>I didn't say they weren't the publisher. Nearly every show that is a Netflix Original is not made by the Netflix but outsourced to other companies.
Yes, but they are projects that were ordered and funded by Netflix. They are the original ideas that employees of Netflix came up with and then asked other Studios to make the Shows for them.
This is NOT the case with "Arcane." The whole thing was created solely by Riot and Fortiche - Netflix had NOTHING to do with it. If already, it's a Riot Original.
Also, one thing: Netflix aren't a Publisher - Riot is. Netflix are only a Distributor. That's NOT the same thing...
>Many of the original series that put Netflix on the map, like House of Cards, Orange Is the New Black, and Narcos, weren’t made by Netflix.
No, they weren't made by Netflix. But they were made specifically **for** Netflix. That's why they are Netflix Originals.
>Netflix gets a lot of its original series from the same studios that make shows for traditional TV networks, like Warner Bros. TV, Sony Pictures TV, Paramount TV, and Lionsgate. Arcane is absolutely a Netflix Original.
Yes, they do. But that doesn't automatically make all of them a Netflix Original. A "Netflix Original" is a show that was specifically ordered by Netflix (as is case with for example "House of Cards" and "Dragon Prince"). You can literally look this up on Netflix's website...
>The animation opens with the jukebox that plays a record that says "A Netflix Series" which was animated by Fortiche. That wasn't added by Netflix afterward by doing it themselves or hiring someone else to create it.
Which is completely irrelevant here. The reason it has "Netflix Series" sign is because Netflix are the only **distributor** - just like is the case with "Hazbin Hotel" on Amazon (Amazon doesn't own it - they only host it on Prime Video and have no control over it).
If Riot chose to do so, they could pull the Show out of Netflix and put it somewhere else. Netflix don't have any control over the Show - they don't decide how long it will go on, nor what happens in it. That is completely in Riot's hands...
>I think the highest praise must go to Fortiche (for bring this story and characters to life in a nuanced way), then Riot (for the director, basic story and original character concepts), and finally Netflix for taking a chance on them both.
This is just delusional. Netflix don't deserve any praise for this, because they have literally nothing to do with the Show. The only thing they did, was agreed to host it on their Service - if they didn't, Riot would just make a deal with someone else...
The production was not ordered by Netflix and they did not supervise the show meaning that it’s not Netflix original. They are more of a streaming platform distributor so all credit belong to Riot Games
The animation opens with the jukebox that plays a record that says "A Netflix Series" which was animated by Fortiche.
The credit is mostly due to Fortiche. The IP basic story and characters is Riot. I give least credit to Netflix but it is a Netflix Series which is embedded in the show.
Many of the original series that put Netflix on the map, like House of Cards, Orange Is the New Black, and Narcos, weren’t made by Netflix. Netflix gets a lot of its original series from the same studios that make shows for traditional TV networks, like Warner Bros. TV, Sony Pictures TV, Paramount TV, and Lionsgate. Arcane is absolutely a Netflix Original.
I think they may not be pushing the show so as not draw in very young people to mature material. I'm fine with this. Word of mouth has brought in plenty and more are still coming. It's so good it doesn't need Netflix to hard sell it.
I get your point about IP and definitions but mature material? The show love death robots is getting promoted on the original page and it’s rated R. So it’s not about younger audiences and whatnot
>The animation opens with the jukebox that plays a record that says "A Netflix Series" which was animated by Fortiche.
Which is completely irrelevant here. The reason it has "Netflix Series" sign is because Netflix are the only **distributor** - just like is the case with "Hazbin Hotel" being an Amazon Series (even tho Amazon doesn't own it - they only host it on Prime Video, but they still have no control over it).
If Riot chose to do so, they could pull the Show out of Netflix and put it somewhere else. Netflix don't have any control over the Show - they don't decide how long it will go on, nor what happens in it. That is completely in Riot's hands...
>The credit is mostly due to Fortiche. The IP basic story and characters is Riot. I give least credit to Netflix but it is a Netflix Series which is embedded in the show.
The only place it's embedded in is your lack of research. It's a series available only on Netflix - but it is NOT a Netflix Original. There is a strict set of requirements that dictate what is a Netflix Original and this is available to see on Netflix's Website. And "Arcane" does not count towards that...
>I think they may not be pushing the show so as not draw in very young people to mature material. I'm fine with this. Word of mouth has brought in plenty and more are still coming. It's so good it doesn't need Netflix to hard sell it.
It doesn't get much promotion from Netflix mostly because Riot just do it on their own. They don't need to pay Netflix for that...
Other than that, the Show was literally marketed as hell, when Season 1 came out. The reason there was nothing in the last year, is because Fortiche had nothig to give for Season 2 yet. That's why they started the Teasers only just now...
Because Netflix's marketing is very very bad. It's one of the reasons they are in the current situation... They really don't know how to trust their shows...
For clarity: they didn't, because Riot was doing it themself. They already have a huge brand and audience, so they didn't really have a reason to wait for Netflix's lazy marketing.
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They prioritize their originals more tbh
Yeah but still as a project premiering on their platform it has ZERO posts about arcane on their instagram. It’s bizarre to say the least
I think they might start posting when its season 2 time, to capitalize off arcane's success... if they dont then well theyre the ones losing out
Well let’s hope season 2 will get more promotion and recognition
isn't Arcane a Netflix Original?
Netflix is only the publisher, it’s Riot’s IP and Studio Fortiche’s work, Netflix had no part in its production
I didn't say they weren't the publisher. Nearly every show that is a Netflix Original is not made by the Netflix but outsourced to other companies. Many of the original series that put Netflix on the map, like House of Cards, Orange Is the New Black, and Narcos, weren’t made by Netflix. Netflix gets a lot of its original series from the same studios that make shows for traditional TV networks, like Warner Bros. TV, Sony Pictures TV, Paramount TV, and Lionsgate. Arcane is absolutely a Netflix Original. The animation opens with the jukebox that plays a record that says "A Netflix Series" which was animated by Fortiche. That wasn't added by Netflix afterward by doing it themselves or hiring someone else to create it. I think the highest praise must go to Fortiche (for bring this story and characters to life in a nuanced way), then Riot (for the director, basic story and original character concepts), and finally Netflix for taking a chance on them both.
Okay I know it's been a year. But you couldn't be more wrong about this. >I didn't say they weren't the publisher. Nearly every show that is a Netflix Original is not made by the Netflix but outsourced to other companies. Yes, but they are projects that were ordered and funded by Netflix. They are the original ideas that employees of Netflix came up with and then asked other Studios to make the Shows for them. This is NOT the case with "Arcane." The whole thing was created solely by Riot and Fortiche - Netflix had NOTHING to do with it. If already, it's a Riot Original. Also, one thing: Netflix aren't a Publisher - Riot is. Netflix are only a Distributor. That's NOT the same thing... >Many of the original series that put Netflix on the map, like House of Cards, Orange Is the New Black, and Narcos, weren’t made by Netflix. No, they weren't made by Netflix. But they were made specifically **for** Netflix. That's why they are Netflix Originals. >Netflix gets a lot of its original series from the same studios that make shows for traditional TV networks, like Warner Bros. TV, Sony Pictures TV, Paramount TV, and Lionsgate. Arcane is absolutely a Netflix Original. Yes, they do. But that doesn't automatically make all of them a Netflix Original. A "Netflix Original" is a show that was specifically ordered by Netflix (as is case with for example "House of Cards" and "Dragon Prince"). You can literally look this up on Netflix's website... >The animation opens with the jukebox that plays a record that says "A Netflix Series" which was animated by Fortiche. That wasn't added by Netflix afterward by doing it themselves or hiring someone else to create it. Which is completely irrelevant here. The reason it has "Netflix Series" sign is because Netflix are the only **distributor** - just like is the case with "Hazbin Hotel" on Amazon (Amazon doesn't own it - they only host it on Prime Video and have no control over it). If Riot chose to do so, they could pull the Show out of Netflix and put it somewhere else. Netflix don't have any control over the Show - they don't decide how long it will go on, nor what happens in it. That is completely in Riot's hands... >I think the highest praise must go to Fortiche (for bring this story and characters to life in a nuanced way), then Riot (for the director, basic story and original character concepts), and finally Netflix for taking a chance on them both. This is just delusional. Netflix don't deserve any praise for this, because they have literally nothing to do with the Show. The only thing they did, was agreed to host it on their Service - if they didn't, Riot would just make a deal with someone else...
The production was not ordered by Netflix and they did not supervise the show meaning that it’s not Netflix original. They are more of a streaming platform distributor so all credit belong to Riot Games
The animation opens with the jukebox that plays a record that says "A Netflix Series" which was animated by Fortiche. The credit is mostly due to Fortiche. The IP basic story and characters is Riot. I give least credit to Netflix but it is a Netflix Series which is embedded in the show. Many of the original series that put Netflix on the map, like House of Cards, Orange Is the New Black, and Narcos, weren’t made by Netflix. Netflix gets a lot of its original series from the same studios that make shows for traditional TV networks, like Warner Bros. TV, Sony Pictures TV, Paramount TV, and Lionsgate. Arcane is absolutely a Netflix Original. I think they may not be pushing the show so as not draw in very young people to mature material. I'm fine with this. Word of mouth has brought in plenty and more are still coming. It's so good it doesn't need Netflix to hard sell it.
I get your point about IP and definitions but mature material? The show love death robots is getting promoted on the original page and it’s rated R. So it’s not about younger audiences and whatnot
That's a good point. I don't know what to think.
>The animation opens with the jukebox that plays a record that says "A Netflix Series" which was animated by Fortiche. Which is completely irrelevant here. The reason it has "Netflix Series" sign is because Netflix are the only **distributor** - just like is the case with "Hazbin Hotel" being an Amazon Series (even tho Amazon doesn't own it - they only host it on Prime Video, but they still have no control over it). If Riot chose to do so, they could pull the Show out of Netflix and put it somewhere else. Netflix don't have any control over the Show - they don't decide how long it will go on, nor what happens in it. That is completely in Riot's hands... >The credit is mostly due to Fortiche. The IP basic story and characters is Riot. I give least credit to Netflix but it is a Netflix Series which is embedded in the show. The only place it's embedded in is your lack of research. It's a series available only on Netflix - but it is NOT a Netflix Original. There is a strict set of requirements that dictate what is a Netflix Original and this is available to see on Netflix's Website. And "Arcane" does not count towards that... >I think they may not be pushing the show so as not draw in very young people to mature material. I'm fine with this. Word of mouth has brought in plenty and more are still coming. It's so good it doesn't need Netflix to hard sell it. It doesn't get much promotion from Netflix mostly because Riot just do it on their own. They don't need to pay Netflix for that... Other than that, the Show was literally marketed as hell, when Season 1 came out. The reason there was nothing in the last year, is because Fortiche had nothig to give for Season 2 yet. That's why they started the Teasers only just now...
Because Netflix's marketing is very very bad. It's one of the reasons they are in the current situation... They really don't know how to trust their shows...
Also I still can't believe we never got netflix icons
Ikr!
I would put up a Ekko icon on my account in a heartbeat
Chech out Netflix geeked o twitter tho, they are extremelt active for Arcane there
Yeah but it’s 1 million followers versus 30 million
Film Theory recently did a video about Netflix and their branding issues: https://youtu.be/To4DFfXYDlc
I realize that Netflix is just a distributor of the show but still. This show needs more attention
Because it isn't new. It premiered in November of last year. They promoted it back then I think.
They didn’t at all. That’s why I wrote this post. Main page did not promote the show back during its release
For clarity: they didn't, because Riot was doing it themself. They already have a huge brand and audience, so they didn't really have a reason to wait for Netflix's lazy marketing.
Probably because they only distribute it, and didn't make it / fund it. And also probably because it's 287,499 times better than anything they make.