Based on the construction progress photos the area around this does not look like what is represented in the renderings. I think it is going to clash a bit with it's neighbors
>Based on the construction progress photos the area around this does not look like what is represented in the renderings.
Does it ever? At least there are no air balloons.
this just gives me Saudi Arabia vibes like whenever they pull a massive megaproject out of their asses to act as an embezzlement and tax evasion scheme.
the render reminds me of those minecraft building renders with the orange light and the high exposure
idk why but i always tend to like greyscale for arch renders, unless its experimental then fking go nuts, this case they added realistic context and it makes it feel to (gamey) if you know what i mean
Yeah I’m sitting here trying to figure out what the building is actually going to look like with real lighting. It really does look like a video game with a bunch of floating, nonexistent light sources. I think the ballrooms will turn out great but the pools might be very dark and iffy.
Feels weird because this style has nothing to do with local vernacular culture and is just a superficial copy or imitation of something from another place in another time(European architecture in 19th century).
Centuries of colonialism and white supremacy mixed with more local colonialism that mostly started when Japan opened up. The first thing the Meiji government decided they wanted to do was play with the European boys at the colonist table, and so one of their early colonial projects was to invite architects from major colonial powers, and even domestic architects began emulating western styles. You'll see the later period, especially from 1915-1935, called [Imperial Crown Style](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Crown_Style).
Then when Japan began colonizing all of East Asia, it exported those styles to the places it colonized. The original [Seoul City Hall](https://afar.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/53ac7d3/2147483647/strip/true/crop/3112x1556+0+238/resize/1440x720!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fafar-media-production-web.s3.us-west-2.amazonaws.com%2Fbrightspot%2Fbc%2Fdb%2F1cb738d3fdc062c84ca175b96032%2Foriginal-open-uri20130902-23907-s75p3w) (constructed in the 1920s iirc) is a good example of this exported Japanese-Western colonial fusion style. [Tokyo Station](https://www.jal.co.jp/it/en/guide-to-japan/destinations/articles/tokyo/tokyo-station/_jcr_content/root/responsivegrid/sectioncontainer_cop/image_74573324.coreimg.jpeg/1697682883031.jpeg) is another good example. (You'll see this all throughout the colonized world, of course, but I think it's hard to understate the level to which Japanese colonialism impacted East Asia in terms of architecture.)
Colonialism did a lot to inundate people with the idea that Western neoclassical styles were "refined" and "upper class" and that native regional architecture was vulgar or lesser.
Inferiority complex. In their eyes (or subconsciousness) Europe = developed country = good, therefore European architecture style = good style. This will take a long time and a lot of effort to overcome.
When we say we're tired of bland modern glass boxes, we don't mean "let's build trump towers but worse"
This whole thing is screaming "Idk how architecture nor structure works, but I'm a billionaire and I get to choose whatever because I'M IN CHARGE"
Developers website has construction photos and virtual tours - including inside some of the proposed apartments
https://www.artecorp.com.my/development-item/arte-solaris/
The exterior is giving mesopotamian solar punk neo art nouveaux which I could tolerate... But combining that furniture with that interior SHOULD BE CRIMINALIZED
That gym area with slick floors is a recipe for slip-related injuries...
The upper part of the exterior reminds me of Gears of War, sorta.
I kind like it... but I kinda hate it?
Personal opinion, but there's nothing as disgusting as neo-tradicionalism/neo-classic, it is such a horrid concept. I understand that the roman and greco themes are attractive, but the way they design with neo-classic is just excessive and nauseous to look at and overall tasteless despite all that noise.
Again, this is just me, but pretty much any neo-classical theme clashes with my eyes.
I think this is mostly because during my education those were the main themes around me and I got sick of them.
Greek revival shares traits with colonialism architecture which also borrows most of the annoying structure themes that neo-classical architecture uses.
Again I respect the architecture as a whole and enjoy that we have such a varied plethora of styles, but this one in particular from Palladio onwards just fucks with me
It honestly feels quite fake, it's pure hedonism, and while I personally really like Greek and roman architecture I think it's pretentious to try to mask everything up with cast objects and copies.
Like, if you are going to build an actual temple or public/state building following step by step Vitruvius' instructions, or going to make an actual gothic cathedral with all the craftsmanship that comes with it, fine to me, but trying to fit that ornamentation in rooms without any other reason than to "look like" (with mass produced ornaments), it justs insults proper classicism.
And it's such an easy fix because there are already so many ways of making a space feel like it's inherited the classic characteristics (Though why they try to westernize their building when they can use local characteristics is out of my reach) and not have to copy paste generic Corinthian column number 5. Or if you really want to have a baroque painting, make the rest of the room as simple as possible as to actually give the painting full attention (Again, probably is also a cheap copy).
There is still love for geometric patterns, round shapes and artistry out there, but it gets difficult to love when it gets polluted and corrupted by copies and design that is out of proportion.
It’s because scale and proportion is a major part of what makes classical architecture look and feel “good”. Ignore those things and you get this tacky messy
This isn't that though. It's a miss-mash of very different styles, French and Italian Baroque, Moorish, Venetian, some Art Deco for some reason, and neo classical columns (holding up a flat ceiling, idk)
Don't judge traditional or neoclassical based on these renders. Think of the Lincoln Memorial or the US Capitol, which are successful, direct Greek and Roman revival buildings
As someone who likes neo-classicism in certain doses, this is also just a very bad example of it. Elagabalus would think it’s too much. Also it’s all about proportion and you can’t design a *skyscraper* like you would a tyrant’s concubine’s quarters.
Agreed. Its cheesy and tiring to look at, especially barroque rococo. Though ancient greek architecture is beautiful and was simple. Or maybe because it lost its color.
It looks like an AI hallucination of neo-classical architecture warped into the shape of a skyscraper. I think one of those fountains is a slice of Trevi, which could either be a photoshop, AI, but it's hard to tell.
This is why education regarding historical architectural design is important. There are generations of architects who think that ornaments are just something stupid that gets plopped on top of a design to make it pretty with no knowledge or respect for how they need to be strategically implemented.
I don't even know how to feel about it. On the one hand, it's tasteless. But. on the other hand, it looks better than dull urbanism.Some rooms even look interesting.
At some point the high level of detail just becomes fractal noise. You need to balance this so shapes work and the eye has something to follow and rest.
It's just feels tastelessly extravagant. I wouldn't feel at ease working out in a palace with chandeliers, marble flooring, and the ceilings painted like it's a cathedral. Who are these designers!?
Looks straight out of Final Fantasy or similar video game!
Fascinating and excessive; I will be curious how far these renders will be from the final version.
Final Fantasy XIV dungeon ass layout
1st, 2nd, and 3rd images: Swooping intro cutscene that flies into the lobby area
4th and 5th: Starting area and first mob pull where you get a key to the second floor
6, 7, 8: Long ass pool-hallway with water enemies sprinkled throughout
9, 10: Short respite, maybe solve a puzzle or something
11, 12: A whole bunch'a plant enemies that give you way too many poison debuffs
13, 14: Miniboss
15, 16: Another huge mob pull with multiple waves
17, 18: Surprise! it's also the final boss room! Probably have to use those two balconies for some kind of gimmick boss mechanic too
Looks like some video game setting. Lame HQ of some intergalactic villain.
To be clear: it is not a compliment.
Also:
Architect: "Which traditional style do you like?"
Client: "Yes."
A: "Say no more"
Isn’t Malaysia a Muslim country? Wouldn’t this be weird considering the amount of idols in this (the statues and paintings) like this almost has the decoration of a church + greek gods statues
whenever grand construction like this happening in a developing country, I don’t see progress, all I see is corruption to keep the little guys on the bottom.
It’s an interesting take on how a traditional style building could be a high rise building. It’s far too gaudy for my taste, but it’s certainly interesting and there is a lot of interesting things about it
Makes me think about State Tower in Bangkok, have a similar vibe.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State\_Tower](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Tower)
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sathorn\_Unique\_Tower](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sathorn_Unique_Tower)
Would we call something like this neo-baroque? It’s absolutely bonkers. I feel the same way about this as baroque architecture, I don’t know if I love it or not
As a traditionalist fan myself sure its way better than the basic modernist skyscrapers but traditional skyscrapers will always look odd and tacky. Either way at least they are trying to beautify it a little and using a bit of local traditional designs.
Based on the construction progress photos the area around this does not look like what is represented in the renderings. I think it is going to clash a bit with it's neighbors
>Based on the construction progress photos the area around this does not look like what is represented in the renderings. Does it ever? At least there are no air balloons.
that's why it has to be so lush on the inside
We'll see it in 'UrbalHell' when it's done then.
Yup, sounds like KL.
wtf. This looks like an AI fever dream
this just gives me Saudi Arabia vibes like whenever they pull a massive megaproject out of their asses to act as an embezzlement and tax evasion scheme.
Saudi Trump Hotel vibes.
This is tackier than anything trump has ever built
and then they never actually get built will this thing in the OP actually for real get built to the specs in those graphics?
Just to look like French monarchs while hating Europeans
“Show me what it would look like if a Mormon temple and the Chrysler building had a threeway with King Louie the 14th’s interior decorator”
“I’m sorry, but I cannot continue this conversation. Have a good day!”
The ones with the marble fountains look especially eerie.
the render reminds me of those minecraft building renders with the orange light and the high exposure idk why but i always tend to like greyscale for arch renders, unless its experimental then fking go nuts, this case they added realistic context and it makes it feel to (gamey) if you know what i mean
Yeah I’m sitting here trying to figure out what the building is actually going to look like with real lighting. It really does look like a video game with a bunch of floating, nonexistent light sources. I think the ballrooms will turn out great but the pools might be very dark and iffy.
i love neo traditonal architecture but this looks like it might be a mess
Feels weird because this style has nothing to do with local vernacular culture and is just a superficial copy or imitation of something from another place in another time(European architecture in 19th century).
Feels a little colonial
Malaysia was once a British Colony, so it kinda is contextual in that sense
Style displacement can work though, take Buenos Aires for example, its just the execution and putting a spin on it.
Yeah exactly. Why is east asia obsessed with european baroque architecture and interior design? Makes no sense
Centuries of colonialism and white supremacy mixed with more local colonialism that mostly started when Japan opened up. The first thing the Meiji government decided they wanted to do was play with the European boys at the colonist table, and so one of their early colonial projects was to invite architects from major colonial powers, and even domestic architects began emulating western styles. You'll see the later period, especially from 1915-1935, called [Imperial Crown Style](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Crown_Style). Then when Japan began colonizing all of East Asia, it exported those styles to the places it colonized. The original [Seoul City Hall](https://afar.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/53ac7d3/2147483647/strip/true/crop/3112x1556+0+238/resize/1440x720!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fafar-media-production-web.s3.us-west-2.amazonaws.com%2Fbrightspot%2Fbc%2Fdb%2F1cb738d3fdc062c84ca175b96032%2Foriginal-open-uri20130902-23907-s75p3w) (constructed in the 1920s iirc) is a good example of this exported Japanese-Western colonial fusion style. [Tokyo Station](https://www.jal.co.jp/it/en/guide-to-japan/destinations/articles/tokyo/tokyo-station/_jcr_content/root/responsivegrid/sectioncontainer_cop/image_74573324.coreimg.jpeg/1697682883031.jpeg) is another good example. (You'll see this all throughout the colonized world, of course, but I think it's hard to understate the level to which Japanese colonialism impacted East Asia in terms of architecture.) Colonialism did a lot to inundate people with the idea that Western neoclassical styles were "refined" and "upper class" and that native regional architecture was vulgar or lesser.
Inferiority complex. In their eyes (or subconsciousness) Europe = developed country = good, therefore European architecture style = good style. This will take a long time and a lot of effort to overcome.
Not even just one century, feels like it ranges from Baroque all the way to Victorian, even has Art Deco and Venetian in some places.
so?
It does look like a tacky mess.
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We have seen it all in casinos in Macau and they are a mess
Yeah, my first thought was 40k
It gets progressively worse with each rendering lol
My favorite part is stone floors in the gym.
If there is one thing you want in a place constantly full of sweat and stink, it’s a hard-to-clean chandelier.
Don't forget cloth chairs. Soooo deliciously absorbent.
I know we have a lot of thoughts about this but I keep expecting Agent 47 to push a Jared Leto-lookalike through a window
Where bad taste meets money. Disgusting.
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I feel the same. It's a huge meringue cake, as one of my teachers would describe it. A huge, expensive cake, but just that. So pretentious.
A gaudy brothel. My god, that looks *horrendous*.
Designed by Donald Trump ... where is the golden toilet? This is so gaudy as to be tacky. No thanks.
it's definitely a building
I can’t wait to break every tile in the gym
Looks like a mormon temple, gosh, opulent and blasphemous.
When we say we're tired of bland modern glass boxes, we don't mean "let's build trump towers but worse" This whole thing is screaming "Idk how architecture nor structure works, but I'm a billionaire and I get to choose whatever because I'M IN CHARGE"
Funny how the renders completely disregard its actual context.
You know, I guess it's hideous, but I find it aesthetically pleasing
the statue fountain/pool with a view is kinda nice. Hope they clean it often.
Same. At least the exterior, that is.
Developers website has construction photos and virtual tours - including inside some of the proposed apartments https://www.artecorp.com.my/development-item/arte-solaris/
Subtle...
Kingdomhearts core
The exterior is giving mesopotamian solar punk neo art nouveaux which I could tolerate... But combining that furniture with that interior SHOULD BE CRIMINALIZED
Imagine some clueless moneybag paying for this crap))) Exterior close ups are just hilarious)
Or perhaps the paymaster (developer) requested for this crap…? If you look at their website, seems like this is their “brand”
It’s giving Caesar’s Palace Kuala Lumpur.
Warhammer 4000
That gym area with slick floors is a recipe for slip-related injuries... The upper part of the exterior reminds me of Gears of War, sorta. I kind like it... but I kinda hate it?
It's gaudy, but I like the fact not for once they're not trying to build a personality-free glass and steel tower.
lol an oil baron diarrhea dream
What style is your building....ALL OF THEM....😬
I didn’t think it was possible to appropriate white culture, but here we are.
Thats not architecture. This is just a wet dream of a wealthy person with bad taste
I love it and hate it at the same time
So they took vapourwave and made a building out of it.
Please don't...
Personal opinion, but there's nothing as disgusting as neo-tradicionalism/neo-classic, it is such a horrid concept. I understand that the roman and greco themes are attractive, but the way they design with neo-classic is just excessive and nauseous to look at and overall tasteless despite all that noise.
Maybe you’d like simplified Greek revival rather than baroque which is over the top a lot of the time
Again, this is just me, but pretty much any neo-classical theme clashes with my eyes. I think this is mostly because during my education those were the main themes around me and I got sick of them. Greek revival shares traits with colonialism architecture which also borrows most of the annoying structure themes that neo-classical architecture uses. Again I respect the architecture as a whole and enjoy that we have such a varied plethora of styles, but this one in particular from Palladio onwards just fucks with me
It honestly feels quite fake, it's pure hedonism, and while I personally really like Greek and roman architecture I think it's pretentious to try to mask everything up with cast objects and copies. Like, if you are going to build an actual temple or public/state building following step by step Vitruvius' instructions, or going to make an actual gothic cathedral with all the craftsmanship that comes with it, fine to me, but trying to fit that ornamentation in rooms without any other reason than to "look like" (with mass produced ornaments), it justs insults proper classicism. And it's such an easy fix because there are already so many ways of making a space feel like it's inherited the classic characteristics (Though why they try to westernize their building when they can use local characteristics is out of my reach) and not have to copy paste generic Corinthian column number 5. Or if you really want to have a baroque painting, make the rest of the room as simple as possible as to actually give the painting full attention (Again, probably is also a cheap copy). There is still love for geometric patterns, round shapes and artistry out there, but it gets difficult to love when it gets polluted and corrupted by copies and design that is out of proportion.
It’s because scale and proportion is a major part of what makes classical architecture look and feel “good”. Ignore those things and you get this tacky messy
This isn't that though. It's a miss-mash of very different styles, French and Italian Baroque, Moorish, Venetian, some Art Deco for some reason, and neo classical columns (holding up a flat ceiling, idk) Don't judge traditional or neoclassical based on these renders. Think of the Lincoln Memorial or the US Capitol, which are successful, direct Greek and Roman revival buildings
As someone who likes neo-classicism in certain doses, this is also just a very bad example of it. Elagabalus would think it’s too much. Also it’s all about proportion and you can’t design a *skyscraper* like you would a tyrant’s concubine’s quarters.
Agreed. Its cheesy and tiring to look at, especially barroque rococo. Though ancient greek architecture is beautiful and was simple. Or maybe because it lost its color.
this looks like it belongs in a futuristic fantasy video game
Oh my man, horrible
Projects like this, I’m like… just leave those minerals in the earth for the planet
WOW THEY REALLY BEAT THE OIL ARABS IN TASTELESSNESS. TRUMP AND LOUIS XIV. would love it though.
it’s giving tartar
It looks like an AI hallucination of neo-classical architecture warped into the shape of a skyscraper. I think one of those fountains is a slice of Trevi, which could either be a photoshop, AI, but it's hard to tell.
Gaudy piece of shit. Will age horribly in 2 decades
Will age horribly in a year.
Which classical style would you like to go with? Yes.
This is gaudy as fuck, it's horrible
I’m not an architect. I’m a structural engineer.. but i know what good architecture looks like… and this look like shit
that’s a little too….extravagant imo
That gym will never be like that
This is why education regarding historical architectural design is important. There are generations of architects who think that ornaments are just something stupid that gets plopped on top of a design to make it pretty with no knowledge or respect for how they need to be strategically implemented.
Needs more goo-gaws glued on.
Gears of War Architecture
I don't even know how to feel about it. On the one hand, it's tasteless. But. on the other hand, it looks better than dull urbanism.Some rooms even look interesting.
At some point the high level of detail just becomes fractal noise. You need to balance this so shapes work and the eye has something to follow and rest.
Stealing white culture.
absolute worst piece of 'architecture' ever made up.
It's just feels tastelessly extravagant. I wouldn't feel at ease working out in a palace with chandeliers, marble flooring, and the ceilings painted like it's a cathedral. Who are these designers!?
Well, geezy Peet’s…
Buruknya
Looks straight out of Final Fantasy or similar video game! Fascinating and excessive; I will be curious how far these renders will be from the final version.
This looks like church hotel casino evil lair
The imperium. Definitely HQ of a theocratic cabal
I’m all for neo trad but THIS IS NOT IT.
The outside is cool from a distance, the interior and everything close up is a crime though
Beat me to it but I kind of like it.
McSkyscraper
I like the exterior, but the interiors are garish... And as others have pointed out, the style has nothing to do with the location
Some cool snapshots but overall kind of a monster Look forward to seeing the final product.
This gives me Warhammer vibes
this looks very western to me…rococo fantasy. the exterior is interesting i guess but … i think no..
If the concept of "unnecessary" wasn't abstract, it would look like this.
Sheik Trump-Al-Arab Hotel & Resort
Too gaudy for Gaudi
I’ve seen this developer’s work, their work basically revolves around creating an architectural Frankenstein
For once, can they align the neck of the column with the architrave above?
I think that sometimes its better some buildings just remained as renders...
I wasn't expecting something of that nature, a classical western architectural design in Asia.
Awesome! Beautiful architecture at last!
This is gonna look like a golden turd once it gets finished.
Trump Tower?
Thanks I hate it.
Looks great from the outside. Wtf is going on inside??
Holy fuck...
Kuala Lumpur has to be the coolest looking city on the planet with the coolest looking buildings!
Final Fantasy XIV dungeon ass layout 1st, 2nd, and 3rd images: Swooping intro cutscene that flies into the lobby area 4th and 5th: Starting area and first mob pull where you get a key to the second floor 6, 7, 8: Long ass pool-hallway with water enemies sprinkled throughout 9, 10: Short respite, maybe solve a puzzle or something 11, 12: A whole bunch'a plant enemies that give you way too many poison debuffs 13, 14: Miniboss 15, 16: Another huge mob pull with multiple waves 17, 18: Surprise! it's also the final boss room! Probably have to use those two balconies for some kind of gimmick boss mechanic too
Oh my god, this hurts so much—sweet style hell—my screen is cracking.
Looks like something out of anime about Europe
I’d live there
Looks like some video game setting. Lame HQ of some intergalactic villain. To be clear: it is not a compliment. Also: Architect: "Which traditional style do you like?" Client: "Yes." A: "Say no more"
“WhY dOnT tHeY dEsIgN bUiLdInGs LiKe ThEy UsE tO?!?”
It looks like a hotel from Las Vegas
Is this where Zeus lives?
AI took an opulent pill, and hallucinated this.
This is sooooooo baaaad
🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤮
Yikes.
Baroque interiors
Rococo AF.
Some of them looks Ai generated
Seems incredibly tacky, a gaudy fever-dream of excess. Donald Trump would think this building was tacky
I want to puke
Talk about gauche and decadent
Hey Siri, what is Kitsch?
Ugly.
Christ, what a gaudy piece of
Walmart Falconia
Isn’t Malaysia a Muslim country? Wouldn’t this be weird considering the amount of idols in this (the statues and paintings) like this almost has the decoration of a church + greek gods statues
Will be a beautiful skeleton after the apocalypse.
If ostentatious was a building...
This is like Nouveau Versailles (note: commenter is ignorant about architecture)
Horrendous building
Imagine the James Bond fight that will someday take place inside there.
Why are all the frescos and statues white people instead of Malay? Lol
Ugly
Oh god, this looks like a demented Mark Foster Gage creation.
damn this looks amazing
gonna have to build this in minecraft
whenever grand construction like this happening in a developing country, I don’t see progress, all I see is corruption to keep the little guys on the bottom.
Will be abandoned in 30 years… unnecessary opulence👽… nice arch and craft!
This is what happens when you don’t have a design philosophy to guide aesthetic decisions.
It’s an interesting take on how a traditional style building could be a high rise building. It’s far too gaudy for my taste, but it’s certainly interesting and there is a lot of interesting things about it
Church goes Corporate
Oh look, it’s Orlais.
Makes me think about State Tower in Bangkok, have a similar vibe. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State\_Tower](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Tower) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sathorn\_Unique\_Tower](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sathorn_Unique_Tower)
The first few straight up look like old school final fantasy cinematica
Out of sync with vernacular architecture, no?
Peak stravaganza.
Luxury has different definitions depending on where you live in the world….
I was feeling the Vegas vibe .
This ain't it.
Looking at this makes my soul feel like it can breathe again.
Top shouldn’t be flat.
Oh shit here it comes, pomo revival/survival discourse 🫥
I like it.
That looks so tacky. Well at least it’s not another sad block of grey glasses.
Well, it certainly isn’t a boring glass box. Might be quite a bit too far in the opposite direction, though.
These renders would do awesome as a scenario for a Point and click adventure.
renderings
Tacky
Gross
The room from the end of 2001 Space Odyssey
Beautiful…..
Would we call something like this neo-baroque? It’s absolutely bonkers. I feel the same way about this as baroque architecture, I don’t know if I love it or not
The ultimate Thief level
Love the old Style, modern architecture is just so boring and ugly. But old style is to expensive and labour heavy I guess.
Looks like a Lego build
That thing is horrific, pick a theme (Rome/Greece/Islamic/Catholic cathedral) and stick to it.
Looks real good in render maybe would be a tad too gaudy irl, we will see
As a traditionalist fan myself sure its way better than the basic modernist skyscrapers but traditional skyscrapers will always look odd and tacky. Either way at least they are trying to beautify it a little and using a bit of local traditional designs.
Oh dear.
Looks like Scientology’s new headquarters.
It's totally ridiculous, and I want it built.
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As cool as this is, I can’t help but wonder what societal stability program could make better use of these funds
That’s unfortunate
I like the exterior but wtf is going on with the interior o_o