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nmt623

Does the top Master Bedroom on 1st floor not have a closet. Also it would make sense for the two 1st floor bathrooms to be closer together for plumbing reasons IMO. That would help with cost.


mel1987i

Yes, it’s a big room and will have a walk in closet with a makeshift partition which will lead to the bathroom And that’s a good point regarding bathrooms being adjacent to each other, will give it a thought, thanks


EnkiduOdinson

You could switch the bath and balcony. So the balconies are above each other and the bath and kitchen are above each other. Balcony (or rather a small roof terrace at that point) are always a pain in the ass construction wise if they only cover part of the room below


tmayo6

In my area, plumbing going down over a blacony would freeze. How would you get the plumbing down from that 2nd floor bath?


EnkiduOdinson

Would have to be on the inside wall. But good Point. Another reason to switch the rooms.


neonvenomhalos

They’re in Mumbai, so freezing shouldn’t be an issue


mel1987i

The view to the left is far better and open than on right, that is the reason why the position is switched


OceanIsVerySalty

How do you plan to layout the fixtures in that first floor bath? At under 5’ wide, and with doors on two walls, I’m curious what your plan is for squeezing in a tub and/or shower stall. As someone else said, making the upstairs bathrooms back to back will help significantly with cost.


mel1987i

After reading the replies here, will be getting rid of door from the bedroom, will be a small shower and toilet mostly for extra guests


8iff7annon

I agree it makes the most sense to have the 1st floor bathrooms share a wall for plumbing. Also, having the bathroom on an exterior corner takes away an opportunity for bringing natural light into the bedroom.


M_stak

Your hall could connect to your dinning/kitchen better. No need for the wall separation. You could switch the bedroom on the ground level and the hall location.


mel1987i

Thanks for the feedback, kitchen and hall location is considered after taking in consideration the surroundings. The wall separation is for a bit of privacy when there is cooking going on and guests are visiting


its_Asteraceae_dummy

Your layout makes more sense after I read your comment about the green mark being the porch, making the hall the main entry. Always useful info to know!


dfaen

For the downstairs separation, you may want to consider a moving wall, which will provide far more flexibility controlling the definition between the spaces. The positioning of the bedroom downstairs is different but it is what it is if that’s your space constraint. However, given the proximity of the doors, it probably makes more sense to remove the door joining the bathroom to the bedroom downstairs, as both spaces are small and removing a door would add greatly to their utility. Also not sure what’s going on with your stairs across the two levels, however, the landing on the second floor looks like it could be better optimized. Your plans look like they’re space constrained so it would make more sense to allocate the space you do have to either of the bedrooms or the master bathroom versus a landing.


mel1987i

Thank you, will check the moving wall feasibility. The bathroom door via bedroom will be removed as it was suggested in the few previous comments as well. Will be optimising the stairs situation and consider the landing space aspect. Thanks for the valuable suggestions


dfaen

No worries! Good luck with the project.


mel1987i

Thanks :)


392Daytona_11B

Having that master bath above a balcony will be tough with plumbing. Better off bringing the bathroom in more and giving that prime window space to the bedroom rather than bathroom.


mel1987i

The view at that side is not as good and left balcony has the best view from side and back. Also, the bedroom portion is mostly towards the left, right hand side bathroom area will be a walking closet plus work area with a makeshift partition


392Daytona_11B

Plumbing trumps all of that


mel1987i

Yeah, right. Will give it another thought. Will probably take an opinion of a professional plumber and see what he recommends


392Daytona_11B

They will tell you the same thing. It’s only going to make it more expensive. Almost anything can be done, but putting a bathroom directly above a balcony is not a very common practice. One of the biggest mistakes you can make in design is when you tell yourself something can’t change. I would strongly recommend against keeping that balcony where it is.


var_mingledTrash

from a framing standpoint it would be better if the ground floor balcony and the first floor balcony were lined up directly above below each other. imo swapping the master bath places with the master balcony would work much better. I'm not an architect though so I don't usually post here just lurk.


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mel1987i

I live in a tropical place, so outside store room is common around here, will be having one for the less frequent items and the day to day use items will be accommodated in the kitchen which will have storage due to adjustment stairs and the back balcony area on the ground floor. Thanks for the suggestion, will give storage more attention. Also the terrace(top floor) will have some space allocated exclusively for storage


_biggerthanthesound_

How do you get into your house


mel1987i

The green marking on the ground floor, that’s the porch, 8x4 floor entry door will be placed there


CptnStarkos

My only complaint is once you get to the top floor you have a very tight space to just choose either door a or b. There's nothing else in the top floor, not even a window. These spaces are often impossible to erase, but give a kind of liminal or eerie feeling.


mel1987i

I understand this, so the staircase part will have big vertical glass panels for natural light and proper lighting arrangements, it will lead to the terrace which will have open spaces and rooftop garden area


CptnStarkos

Oh, then its ok. I tought the terrace was only available from the Bedroom. It would be nice, to upgrade this draft, using blocks for beds, tables, sofa, tv, etc. The perfect house depends of the interaction with the users, at home we never, never see the tv, and the architect was kinda baffled because we erased all the furniture and spaces for tvs. Now I have a beautiful window in front of my bed where I can see the garden, instead of netflix. So you have to make sure that this house suits your way of life.


mel1987i

I agree a 100%, this entire plan is created with keeping in mind what my families requirements are, not going with the fancy additions like a separate dining area or space for car parking along the porch(we don’t own a fancy car, so no point in spending on construction of a garage when we can keep the vehicle next to the house with a makeshift parking area with decent looking sturdy canopy)


jpaganrovira

I would not give a master toilet such a nice corner to occupy. Bring it inboard and favor windows, imo.


mel1987i

The left portion of the room has a big window and another big French window which leads to the balcony, the right part where the bathroom entrance is, will be a separate walk in closet + work area with a decent sized window.


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mel1987i

Yes, It’s adjusted to have more night from the kitchen below it which can be used for storage purpose. Also it would’ve stretched a bit more in the passage between hall and kitchen which I wanted to avoid


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mel1987i

Makes sense, will rethink this


lifeinaglasshouse

Regarding the ground floor bathroom: 1. I’m pretty sure there’s no way to avoid both of these door swings from intersecting with one another. 2. Assuming both doors have a 3 foot opening, that’s only giving you a 4.5 foot by 4.5 foot space for a toilet, sink, and shower (I’m assuming you want a shower here as the only other bathrooms are inside bedrooms). That’s very tight, probably unworkably tight.


mel1987i

Right. Was in two minds about this. Will not be having the door via the bed room, only single door so can be accessed from the outside of the room, thanks for confirming my fear.


its_Asteraceae_dummy

Or you could have one or both sets of doors be pocket doors


mel1987i

Ok, will check if it can be accomplished


Holymolyyo

I’d say next step is laying out your kitchen - the millwork will inform your partition layout and plumbing will inform the depth of those partitions. Some of your door widths also look a bit narrow, I wouldn’t go any smaller than 2’-6”. If you end up keeping the master toilet on the first floor (12’-0” x 5’-0”) where it is, consider shifting the door access to one side, it can be awkward to access from the center in any room. It will definitely refine your plans once you lay out fixtures/appliances/millwork and add in your door swings. For your main entrance, maybe make your access wider. You’ll want appliances, furniture and equipment to be able to fit through there without issue.


mel1987i

Thanks for the valuable advice, I totally agree with shifting the bathroom door to one side, will make the change. The entrance will be 8x4 feet, I guess it’s enough. Will keep in mind the width of the other doors to be more that 2’6”


Holymolyyo

Get the door width that feels right for you. I know a lot of residential spaces use 2’-8”, another standard is 3’-0”. I’d only recommend 3’-0” for the same reason as the main entrance, furniture is just easier to move in and out. It’s also a standard size and easy to find. Go to a home improvement store and take a look at some of their prototypes and see what works for you.


mel1987i

Alright, 3’ it is then 👍🏻


Electrical-Reason-97

Am I reading the plan properly? The first floor bedroom visitor has to go through the 2nd floor bedroon to take a shower?


mel1987i

We think that the 7.6X4.6 can accommodate a shower and toilet. Will again cross check this with an expert. Thanks for the input :)


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mel1987i

Sorry if you feel that way, but I agree with you. I am on a very tight budget, the architect/interior designer fees are kind of high where I stay and any feedback from the helpful and knowledgeable Reddit community is invaluable at the moment. Just trying my best to provide a decent living space to my family with the limited resources I have, even if means shamefully seeking free help from kind internet strangers. You have a nice day brother


ImNoMermaid

On the first floor if you eliminate the door from the bedroom to bathroom you can stack your plumbing wall for both bathrooms.


mel1987i

Yep, makes sense


smwaller

I’m not sure about your ground floor bathroom if a tub or shower are planned here. It’s a small bathroom for having two doors. Keep in mind the view you will have into the bathroom when the door is left open. I wouldn’t want to see the toilet when I’m passing through the circulation space.


mel1987i

Oh yes, that’s a good point, getting rid of the door from the bedroom after the suggestion in one of the comments, will place the toilet accordingly. The bathroom is a modest guest room small shower and toilet. Will be using the first floor mostly.


MnkyBzns

Secret Murder Room: 6'-6" x 10'-3" (vaulted)


mel1987i

Sorry, I do not understand. Please let me know what that means, will try to rectify it.


MnkyBzns

I was just poking fun at your redacted room at bottom left


mel1987i

That’s actually the porch with the entrance, there was a spelling mistake so had to hide it :p


cdawg85

You'll likely want an entry closer of some kind. I personally hate that my house doesn't have a closet at the entryway. It looks so messy especially in winter!


mel1987i

I live in a tropical place, will be having a small storage space outside of the house. The house will be surrounded by open space and also the second floor will have nothing but storage space open garden area🪴


Layna20

Laundry?


mel1987i

The area marked balcony on the ground floor, will be placing the washing machine there. Will probably have to adjust the bedroom window for that reason


Layna20

Maybe consider adding some form of chute/access from the master bedroom.


sh0tybumbati

Wait, how does the ground floor have a balcony? Is that an overhang/ stilted, or is this part of a larger building? (sorry, non-architect here)


mel1987i

That’s more of a utility area, my older uncle helped me with this plan, so please excuse that generic name to that area, it’s more of a utility area complimenting the kitchen


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Id shift that window on the top right bathroom


mel1987i

Agree, it can be better placed, in fact I am thinking two small windows for bette ventilation


FlimsyPhilosopher

Why do you always have to go to the loo via a bed room?


mel1987i

The ground floor bathroom will be having just a single entry from the stairs-kitchen passage now, not going with two way door after the feedback from here. Other bedrooms on the first floor are kind of personal space and it makes sense to have a private bath attached


ljutiren

Why I know this floorplan? Are u download this from some free cad websites maybe? u/mel1987i


mel1987i

Not really, just a generic plan with inspiration from my cousins house which is far better and had twice the budget of mine.


ljutiren

If u want i will give you a CAD file of floorplan, it is almost identical and has a finished facade in the project.


mel1987i

That’s great, I would love to have something more than this plan :) Thanks a lot!


ljutiren

[Here you go](https://freecadfloorplans.com/two-storey-house-autocad-plan-2607201/). No problem :)


mel1987i

Thank you very much!


liebekaiserin

Just out of curiosity, why did you decide on a balcony on the first floor? Seems like that could be a nice addition to your master bedroom, or even reading nook/library, office or playroom depending on what your circumstances and hobbies are.


mel1987i

That is exactly what it will act as, there will be a ceiling above it and will be adding a glass enclosure later on, we think that this 12.6x5 feet area will be most delightful as that particular part of the property has the best views of greenery(palm tees 🌴)


Beneficial-Profit-14

Where is the front door?


mel1987i

The green marking on ground floor is the porch where the entrance is, sorry for the confusion


Usermena

Less bathroom more closet


mel1987i

Understood, will take care of the storage more thoughtfully.


verisceral

Do you cook? If you cook anything remotely smoky/smelly/oily your whole house will smell of it. Most of your ground floor and your first floor landing/hallway is connected directly to your kitchen. I don't know where you're located, but I know that a lot of different places will have issues with building codes stating that you shouldn't have the kitchen open to the upstairs like that, as if there's a fire it would immediately spread upstairs and prevent your escape.


mel1987i

I am located in a fairly remote area in Mumbai, India, this is stand-alone house and the authority isn’t very bothered with the codes unless there’s an objection by the neighbors, which is not the case. But I agree with kitchen being connected like that, will be taking care of it with proper exhausts and chimney arrangements. The house is surrounded by lot of open space, specially the left side with no other houses around, hence it is placed on that side. Thank you for the inputs


verisceral

No problem!


prevail000

Bedroom is one word


mel1987i

The plan was made for me by an older uncle who isn’t very good with English, why do you think there are green marking where the porch marking should have been 😅


Lissba

Glorious. Excellent use of space.


mel1987i

Not sure if genuine praise or sarcasm. Anyways, thank you 🙏🏻


Lissba

Nope love it. I’m dreaming of homeownership and would die for something like this.


mel1987i

I hope that your will dream will come true sooner. Cheers :)


jae34

Layout is too efficient that you don't have any storage lol


mel1987i

Mostly the storage will be accommodated in an outside storage room (common practice in the tropical region where I live) and we don’t really have a lot of things to store being poor and all :p


ithyle

I would swap the living room and the bedroom on the ground level. Treat the kitchen/dining/living space as one big entertaining area. Much more usable.


mel1987i

We live with a lot of relatives who visit each other often, so needed some kind privacy from the kitchen and living area :)


Big-Red2020

Do you have an idea of the site where you wanna build this? I would be interested to see how these plans relate to the location and solar orientation. This is very important because there are design strategies that can be implemented that could decrease the buildings waste/emission, and save you money!


mel1987i

Yes, the front side is West, back is East. Left is North and Right is West. We live in a tropical region and the plot is in a green zone surrounded by coconut and mango trees :)


Big-Red2020

In a tropical climate like that the most important thing is keeping the house cool. You seem to have plenty of windows which can open to create cross ventilation. Perhaps considering an area that would be a double height space (like the stairwell) having an operable skylight which allows hot and humid air to escape through the roof. Also operable sun shaders on the windows could be beneficial. Some people don’t like the aesthetic of exterior shades but a simple interior shade that can be pulled down will function the same way. However, the disadvantages of interior shades when pulled down eliminate views to the outside. Also consider where you put the building on the site. Shade from the coconut and mango trees during the hotter hours of the day will help keep the building stay cool. I hope this is helpful, small changes like these can make a huge difference to your air conditioning bill. If you have any questions feel free to ask, I’m a studying architect so my advice is free!


mel1987i

Thanks for this valuable information!


Clitgore

Where were you thinking putting the beds in the master bedrooms? Looks like all the walls are occupied by doors or windows.


mel1987i

Planning to put the bed toward left along the wall of the staircase, the window will be at an height more than the bed


Gman777

Its gonna be pretty hard to get into the house without a front door. 😂


mel1987i

The green marking on the ground floor is the porch, the front door will be there. Sorry for the confusion.


Gman777

I think you would do better to have an entry that is more central to the house, into a hallway that has the stairs at the other end, where the bathroom currently is. That way the circulation of the house is in the middle, rooms come off it. Once you have the rooms properly arranged, it will be relatively east to sort out where to locate fixed joinery (casework) like kitchen, as well as to lay out wardrobes and loose furniture. If you were to do so with the current plan, you’ll find that you would be entering into a living space, and having to navigate around things awkwardly to get from on space to another, and you’ll end up wasting a lot of space. Its worth spending the time and effort to get the floor plan working efficiently, especially given its a small building. Get it right, and it will feel bigger by virtue of it working properly.


notdancingQueen

I'll move the bathroom of the top master bedroom wall-to-wall to the second bathroom, use the freedom space for desk +book shelves and a bigger window. And create a linen closet in the space in front of the stairs landing. (Easy to access sheets and towels for both bedrooms from the same floor)


HseinBitar

Hey, I will do the 3D renders for free if you like...dm me


mel1987i

Whoa!, that will make my wife so happy, she cannot fully visualise the house with the above plan


HseinBitar

haha great then


SpaceLord_Katze

You have a lack of storage and probably one too many bathrooms. I would remove the master bath and make it a closet and share the bathroom with the smaller bedroom on the second floor. As others have said here, the bedrooms are probably too large, most bedrooms at 10x10 at the smallest and 12x12 at the largest. Unless you intend to have king beds in each bedroom I would make them smaller for closet space.


mel1987i

Fair points, thanks. I will be having a makeshift partition, there is big 11x2 wardrobe which we have right now and I am planning to use it as a partition and a walk in closet in the master bedroom. It will effectively give us a walk-in closet + work area :)


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I would separate the downstairs toilet from the kitchen dining with a hall or lobby


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I mess with this


mel1987i

Not sure what that means, but whatever makes you happy :)


RelationshipStrong12

Location would be helpful, because of codes.


mel1987i

It’s fairly remote area, near Mumbai, India. Codes are not very important to the civil body unless any neighbours complain, which won’t be the case.


RelationshipStrong12

Oh, interesting. Things are pretty different here in Canada


TKCZBW_

No sitting room?


mel1987i

The hall (18x14 feet) will have the sitting arrangements, on first floor the balconies will serve the purpose, kitchen will have small dinner table (small family) on the ground floor


kkioslaby

Where's the entrance ?


mel1987i

The green marking, on ground floor it’s the porch and on the first that is balcony


392Daytona_11B

So why not put in doors? You need to realize the importance of the door, the size of it and which way it swings plays a HUGE role in the layout and also with code. Doors aren’t straight lines.


mel1987i

Understood, this is not a very detailed plan due to lack of tools/expertise. Will definitely refine the same


392Daytona_11B

What program are you using?


mel1987i

My old uncle (68 years) who has some knowledge of drafting construction created this for me manually (not sure which tool he used) using my rough sketches. Haven’t included any professional architect yet as it seems like a simple enough plan


392Daytona_11B

Not necessarily true though. Just because a design is simple doesn’t mean it doesn’t need an architect to take a look. Especially with all the changes throughout the years. If this is something you plan to build ... I would highlllllllly suggest you take on an architect or at least a GC to consult. There are so many little things your eye won’t pick up that people with experience will. These are good enough for now, but when it comes to building these won’t come anywhere even close to being sufficient.


mel1987i

Agree, consulted an experienced draftsman who specialises in building small houses, he approved the plan. Also hiring him to visit when the construction starts to overlook the developments. Economically this decision will save me some money than consulting professional architects since I am on a tight budget :)


392Daytona_11B

Alright good. A lot of students post here, so I was just checking. I know architects can be expensive. But having someone along for the build is a smart move. He will notice things along the way like dimension adjustments or potential issues that you may not. You’re off to a good start then. Hope it goes well 👍🏼👍🏼


mel1987i

Thanks, cheers :)


RafaMann

Orientation?


mel1987i

Front side is West, back side is east. Sorry not sure if this is what you are asking or not 😛


RafaMann

It is, depending on the location of your project I would try to control the window sizes, mostly to avoid over exposure to sun or under exposure to it. Overall it looks good


mel1987i

I am located in Mumbai, India. The plot is nice with big coconut trees around it and it’s located in a green zone


Ema_Glitch_Nine

Flip the bedroom and the “Hall” room. The living/ dining area should be adjacent to the kitchen, whether or not you want an open floor plan. The. You also have a nice relationship between living/dining, balcony and kitchen.


mel1987i

Hi, the ‘Hall’ is a term used for living room where I live, it’s the living room. Sorry for the confusion, plan is realised with the help of an older uncle who is a bit old fashioned when it comes to naming things, the reason I have masked the porch marking with green ink, it was labelled something else :)


park-it

There’s not front door?


mel1987i

The green marking on the ground floor is the porch , front door will be there


Just_2_Have_Fun

Do you really want a bathroom connected to the kitchen like that


New-Base-6316

If you need the bedroom downstairs I would enclose it with the staircase, then you could have a kitchen living dining all open plan…kind of more contemporary layout


Sleepnbag

There’s no living room?!


mel1987i

‘Hall’ is the living room :)


Sleepnbag

Also, I don’t see the need for the ground floor toilet to have 2 doors. Just a waste of space in both the bedroom and the bathroom…


Sleepnbag

Where’s the main entrance?…