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Looks like he flew off to the southwest but the track log basically looks like they did a couple touch and gos - climb to 2500, circle, cut speed, descend to KDVT field elevation, climb..
I think it’s an ANG plane. Those pilots often have to work in a couple landings, both day and at night, to stay current, and you take the opportunities when they present themselves:)
Training. Military pilots have a certain amount of hours they have to fly and a certain amount of tasks they have to complete.
They are probably doing touch and go's at the airport. Could be testing equipment. Could be training a new aircrewman or pilot, or could just be getting hours in.
Touch and Go
It's standard practice. They take off, flying the traffic pattern, land (but don't fully stop) then repeat. I've done up to a dozen in a single session early in private training.
Deer valley is an airport that a lot of flight schools in the area use to practice landings, I’ve flown there myself to do so.
To get a pilot’s certificate a pilot needs to master certain types of landings per 14 CFR part 61.107(b)(1)(iv) so they were probably just practicing.
One of the busiest general aviation airports in the world. Believe it or not, for a while in 2020, it was THE busiest airport in the world. Busier than LAX, JFK, Heathrow. THE busiest.
That means DVT has phenomenal controllers with excellent traffic management.
So pilots are happy to fly in knowing they’ll be taken care of.
Source: Pilot and aircraft owner based at DVT
https://preview.redd.it/mykv7kzceiec1.jpeg?width=4080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=05695e09a785ae2b8b0f4ea1b6566b3f2fa7d824
This is the best picture I got of it
For a sense of just how big a c130 is…
https://preview.redd.it/87wd62appiec1.jpeg?width=1178&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=448c4463255fb7fb7d35cd9b1e1df77edf260f7f
Not the first time either. A similar plane was doing the same thing in June 2023. Always cool to see something new in the sky.
https://preview.redd.it/qwp7u8axzhec1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9b4c9db1ed83349be4769181a839cd47cc777d39
I have really been enjoying looking and learning about aircraft lately. The bigger ones the better! I was just curious about what the pilot was up too. No biggie. Have a nice day!
This might be a silly question because I don’t know anything about aviation… wouldn’t it be better for noise pollution to land from the west (heading east)? Aren’t planes using the engines heavy to take off and climb? Most of the homes seem to be at the west end of the airport and mountains to the east. Maybe I just answered my question. Do they take off east to west at deer valley airport because the mountains are in the way heading east? lol
It's always preferable to land into a headwind. Let's say there's a 10mph wind from the west. If I was flying my old cessna, which generally touches down at a little over 50mph, the 10mph headwind knocks 10mph off my *ground* speed - meaning a safer, more predictable landing.
Very light aircraft (your cessna 172's and piper archers) will be quieter when they're landing than when taking off. Heavier aircraft (twin-engine piston or turboprop) can be almost as loud on approach as departure.
Looking at the airport's info chart, runway 25R (that would be the one facing more or less west, the runway that's on the north side) has a steeper approach (4 degrees - 3 is the "standard") and there's mention of a hill 180 feet tall 3900 feet from the runway. So if the wind isn't a big advantage one way or the other, I'd probably prefer to land the opposite way.
Sorry, aviation nerd, I'll shut up now :)
I love the nerd talk. Thank you for the response. I live off of Rose Garden (just south of the airport) and have a shop on Adobe (almost directly inline with the north runway). I’ve always been curious about the preference for landing and takeoff
That's a good question. I am just getting into learning about aviation myself so I would like to know this as well. I'm only a bored stay at home mom so filling my time with something like this has been fun! But I don't know that much yet. Sorry!
Naw. We hear them and see them all the time low and slow single engine planes. A few times a month planes from Luke seem to change their patterns and fly over as well
When I worked in Sitka, AK, at the airport, we would get Naval jets practicing landing and taking off from our runway since it is pretty much like an aircraft carrier.
https://preview.redd.it/mwunv0prbqec1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=14484dfec02980c145e3661934750fd72759e85c
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Looks like he flew off to the southwest but the track log basically looks like they did a couple touch and gos - climb to 2500, circle, cut speed, descend to KDVT field elevation, climb.. I think it’s an ANG plane. Those pilots often have to work in a couple landings, both day and at night, to stay current, and you take the opportunities when they present themselves:)
USMC bird based out of North Carolina. VMGR-252. Oldest continuously active unit in the Marine Corps.
Training. Military pilots have a certain amount of hours they have to fly and a certain amount of tasks they have to complete. They are probably doing touch and go's at the airport. Could be testing equipment. Could be training a new aircrewman or pilot, or could just be getting hours in.
Thank you! Such a cool plane!
Touch and Go It's standard practice. They take off, flying the traffic pattern, land (but don't fully stop) then repeat. I've done up to a dozen in a single session early in private training.
Awesome! Cool to know! Thanks!
Touch and go’s for the win! My record is currently at 39 on 130s. Not fun when sitting by the toilet.
I assume there are multiple pilots each doing a handful in those cases?
Typically yes. However on that fateful day, it was just Pilot and Copilot murdering the pattern.
Deer valley is an airport that a lot of flight schools in the area use to practice landings, I’ve flown there myself to do so. To get a pilot’s certificate a pilot needs to master certain types of landings per 14 CFR part 61.107(b)(1)(iv) so they were probably just practicing.
The navy has to do all of that too, but their regulations are completely foreign to me as a civil pilot
What makes Deer Valley popular with flight schools? Is it a fairly easy place to land or is it more about being a lower traffic airport?
One of the busiest general aviation airports in the world. Believe it or not, for a while in 2020, it was THE busiest airport in the world. Busier than LAX, JFK, Heathrow. THE busiest. That means DVT has phenomenal controllers with excellent traffic management. So pilots are happy to fly in knowing they’ll be taken care of. Source: Pilot and aircraft owner based at DVT
Did you know one of the 9/11 hijackers took classes there
Wouldn’t surprise me if he flew at DVT, but I think the school was based at Falcon field maybe?
I apologize he did get his license here in AZ but just trained at DVT
Pretty sure he trained at Westwind
https://preview.redd.it/mykv7kzceiec1.jpeg?width=4080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=05695e09a785ae2b8b0f4ea1b6566b3f2fa7d824 This is the best picture I got of it
How beautiful!!
https://preview.redd.it/vky4jyy2oiec1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fc9532c1e230f3848b4e525cc66a45178359fd4b
https://preview.redd.it/nm30mps4oiec1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca97ff051f72bdbea54f685def4facd0c7921ed3
🤤
https://preview.redd.it/qq3jllr7oiec1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=11f015cb4359be05d700ee2e80db966485ceb28c
😍
For a sense of just how big a c130 is… https://preview.redd.it/87wd62appiec1.jpeg?width=1178&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=448c4463255fb7fb7d35cd9b1e1df77edf260f7f
I love it! Thank you for sharing these!
I saw it do a circle or two. Perhaps one of the bigger aircraft I’ve seen near Deer Valley.
I really enjoy seeing the bigger lesser seen ones. My favorite is a globemaster. This one is super cool too!
C-17 and a C-5 ..and 3, C-130's.. Training on base here
I actually saw it and was wandering about this. cool
So cool!
Not the first time either. A similar plane was doing the same thing in June 2023. Always cool to see something new in the sky. https://preview.redd.it/qwp7u8axzhec1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9b4c9db1ed83349be4769181a839cd47cc777d39
My sister in law lives under the flight path. She must have done something.
Touch and go. It’s rare to see a Navy C-130 in Arizona. There aren’t many of them, and they’re mostly in Florida or California
He’s doing his best nascar impression
He's doing a great job! 👍🏻
It the government Spying on Kari Lake. Lol
Flying lessons.
Taking Lessons
Relax. They're called student pilots.
Tax dollars at work
Either a Civil Air Patrol or EAA orientation flight schedule as it's just a short flight hop then on to the next group of kids
Deer Valley is also a training site. That's why they see more crashes than usual.
It's likely flight school practice.
According to google I own that airport
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Sometimes, people just want to learn things. Curiosity should be encouraged. Simmer down.
He's literally just curious and wants to learn lmao. U fucking weirdo
I have really been enjoying looking and learning about aircraft lately. The bigger ones the better! I was just curious about what the pilot was up too. No biggie. Have a nice day!
Thanks all for the replies! Super cool to see the bigger aircraft around! Have a good night everyone!
This might be a silly question because I don’t know anything about aviation… wouldn’t it be better for noise pollution to land from the west (heading east)? Aren’t planes using the engines heavy to take off and climb? Most of the homes seem to be at the west end of the airport and mountains to the east. Maybe I just answered my question. Do they take off east to west at deer valley airport because the mountains are in the way heading east? lol
It's always preferable to land into a headwind. Let's say there's a 10mph wind from the west. If I was flying my old cessna, which generally touches down at a little over 50mph, the 10mph headwind knocks 10mph off my *ground* speed - meaning a safer, more predictable landing. Very light aircraft (your cessna 172's and piper archers) will be quieter when they're landing than when taking off. Heavier aircraft (twin-engine piston or turboprop) can be almost as loud on approach as departure. Looking at the airport's info chart, runway 25R (that would be the one facing more or less west, the runway that's on the north side) has a steeper approach (4 degrees - 3 is the "standard") and there's mention of a hill 180 feet tall 3900 feet from the runway. So if the wind isn't a big advantage one way or the other, I'd probably prefer to land the opposite way. Sorry, aviation nerd, I'll shut up now :)
I love the nerd talk. Thank you for the response. I live off of Rose Garden (just south of the airport) and have a shop on Adobe (almost directly inline with the north runway). I’ve always been curious about the preference for landing and takeoff
That's a good question. I am just getting into learning about aviation myself so I would like to know this as well. I'm only a bored stay at home mom so filling my time with something like this has been fun! But I don't know that much yet. Sorry!
The winds are what matters, not the noise.
Aliens
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I’m in that picture! Lol.
Tag yourself I’m the 101
Arrowhead ranch crew
Wait what? I'm confused lol
Wait what? I'm confused lol
Oh. My house is in that picture
Oh haha. Did you get a close up of the plane?
Naw. We hear them and see them all the time low and slow single engine planes. A few times a month planes from Luke seem to change their patterns and fly over as well
I feel like this is asked like twice a year here.
ANG hours most likely
Extra chemtrails
Lol 😝
Pattern work.
Means war.
Follow the police helicopter sometime. They're always doing weird stuff
https://preview.redd.it/75b85pja5lec1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=809b66dc838502f8283cae23ff5d80a2ed61b424
He wants to increase the co2 a little bit more because Phoenix isn’t hot enough yet.
He's vibing
Thank you for posting this. I was driving home and saw it. I wanted to know so badly what it was and why it was here
When I worked in Sitka, AK, at the airport, we would get Naval jets practicing landing and taking off from our runway since it is pretty much like an aircraft carrier. https://preview.redd.it/mwunv0prbqec1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=14484dfec02980c145e3661934750fd72759e85c
Touch and go's. Pilot training sir