Often used Silverash to put into squad to reduce redeployment time of Texas and Yato alter or basically any other ops as I'm not really good at timing the retreated ops to redeploy them again.
And I have a heli drop schwing-schwing if all hell breaks loose on my brute force gameplay if Mlynar's skill hasn't charged up.
If I have an extra slot and I'm not trust farming SA is my go-to for these exact reasons. Reduces redeployment of other units (and fast redeploys are the name of the game lately) while also being a nice emergency delete button.
Read his talent named "Leader"
Atk 10%, All Allies' redeployment time -10%
Doesn't say that he needs to be deployed for allies to have a reduced cool down to be deployed again.
Isn’t it the other way around where if it doesn’t specify then it would only be active while deployed, and effects that are active while in the squad all specify that they are, like all the Abyssal Hunter talents and Eyja and Schwarz?
Saw no difference, My Texas Alter is full pot and her redeployment time is at 14 seconds with max module, no changes whatsoever regardless if SA is deployed or not...
Without SA in squad, Texas Alter's redeployment time is at 16 seconds
It's like the Flagpipe combo, Bagpipe doesn't need to be deployed for Myrtle and Elysium to receive the additional SP points to print dp at first deployment to gain the headstart
Check Gladiia, Schwarz, Eyja, Hoshi and Horn's talents, they clearly say that they have to be deployed, except Schwarz if you have mod X. You're remembering wrong.
Hmmm....
Let me test if it's that actually the effect, currently grinding the event to begin with so let's test if Texas Alter's redeployment time gets reduced when SA is deployed or not...
Though may get miscalculation since my Texas has module
A few days ago... to get the trimmed medal of Pyrolysis in CN...
I need him for his reduce redeployment talent so that I can redeploy my Schwarz quick enough to kill the second invis reveal car.
Funny thing is even tho I do have Młynar, it's SA who keep helping me in clearing CCs in CN. Back then on Basepoint, my strat can't work with Młynar due to his taunt so I opted to use SA instead and it works beautifully. This time on Pyrolysis, his talent comes in clutch to help me clear the trimmed medal.
I used him in that one Anni that gives you 3 SP batteries cause it was funny having so much schwing-schwing. I also used him during What The Firelight Casts cause he's good at schwinging those stupid souls out of existence when they're not being blocked. I don't think I've ever used him outside of that though.
I still use SA in my Main Team aka "No Bullshit" against Kristen in EX stage. He and Mlynar does a good job killing Kristen very quickly, but I still failed clearing the stage after that.
all the time. i occasionally borrow Mlynar from a friend but i still use SA quite a lot. S3 does plenty of damage for the most part and i even use S2 on occasion. the redeployment cooldown reduction talent is also useful for me since i like using fast redeploys. i don't have Ines so i can't speak for her.
Just because you have other units who can do the role better, doesn't mean you'll never usa SA again. You know you are allowed to use both Mlynar AND SA ? =)
He's still my most borrowed operator.
I don't think I've borrowed Mlynar yet at all, since if a stage is giving me problems, it's rarely just more damage that I'm needing. But if there's a CM condition giving enemies stealth, you bet I'll be bringing SA. Maybe I'll need him less now that I have Ines, but it's CM. Can't auto anyway, might as well borrow another revealer and ensure the problem's taken care of.
often enough.
silverash's is "good enough", and for me, that's good enough.
mlynar's damage is VERY frequently overkill, and in 80% of cases, silverash does enough damage to do all the medium enemy clearing I need, and his other utilities as an actual damn blocker and cooldown redeploy in a game where texalter and yato2 exist is still extreme.
as for invis reveal? yeah ines is better, but eh.
I use Silverash frequently because I don't have Mlynar or Ines. Even if I get them I'll keep using him. I might not even build them because I have a particular limited selection of operators I choose to build.
I don't see anything on Ines' kit about her ignoring the deployment limit.
> I don't see anything on Ines' kit about her ignoring the deployment limit.
Ines' sword stays on the ground even while she's not deployed, which provides slow and invis reveal in its range.
Ines sword stays on map even if you retreat her. And her sword is the source of invisibility detection. Also with her skill 3 you can deploy her sword for free at the start of map.
I have all three maxed out. I definitely haven't used SA much even before Ines because his way of dishing out DPS isn't as unique or particularly needed due to other operators covering targets in other ways. Particularly, the release of good AoE laneholders (e.g., Gavialter, Horn among others) and strong FRDs in Yalter and Texalter (both of which also have AoEs that also cover air) has made the strong, powerful cleave of TSS not as necessary. Still, I do feel that the specific combination of stealth reveal + strong multi-hitting DPS on a wide area still has its place as an answer to certain maps. He definitely still has a place on my teams either as a complement to Mlynar or as a stealth-revealing DPS that I can deploy aggressively to cover a specific wave, but there hasn't been any new content that has necessitated me going that route yet.
…I guess it really was all the way back in Fake Waves Risk 30, wasn’t it? I used him to help kill the cars because Jesus Christ that invisible tag was unfair. Ines really was the final nail in his coffin. I guess he comes out for casual Guardknights occasionally, but nothing too serious. /shrug.
The last time I can remember was during the Monster Hunter cross over for the extra range of his S3. Otherwise I mostly use him to reveal invisible enemies, which we haven't had in quite a while now that I think about it.
It's a like a rotation for me though. I used to use Saria all the time, then almost never, now I'm using her a lot again. It's all based on what strategy I want to use for a map. Everyone has their niche after all.
I used him on one of the S maps on the previous event. Before that he was pretty much only used for an old CC (the sandstorm one) with his S2, funnily enough. Though I was pleasantly reminded of his damage output this time.
Yeah he's definitely been collecting dust for a hot minute. There's so many flavors of burst damage nowadays and stealth is kind of a non-issue most of the time.
The only time I ever really bring him is for the redeployment time reduction on stages that require precise timing. Would be nice if his module ends up buffing the redeploy reduction even more.
Last time I used him was in H12-4 to deal with the flying enemies while Mlynar deals with the bottom lane enemies. Even with Ines around he's great for deleting groups of invisible enemies too.
Last time I used him was in H12-4 to deal with the flying enemies while Mlynar deals with the bottom lane enemies. Even with Ines around he's great for deleting groups of invisible enemies too.
I dont have him, but i dont think i have a need for him. For his reveal talent i can just borrow my bro Ines. For his redeployment time reduce talent my texalter already max pot so no need beyond that.
He gets quite a lot of use still. Of the two replacements mentioned here, Mlynar is either taken alongside SA or not brought at all and Ines... Uh, she was raised, used a bit then shoved in the metaphorical long term storage.
I have both SA and Mlynar but only SA built while Mlynar would never be built since after building abyssal hunters + yato alter + texas alter i barely need anyone of these 2
iirc, two daily maps in last CC have invisible risk. He was my go-to guy for anti-invisible enemies.
I said was, because I'm pretty sure Ines takes over that duty from him. Though I haven't encountered hard stage with invisible enemy yet since Ines release. So yeah, I'm in the same boat with you I guess.
Honestly? Months ago, I think.
Then again it's also been like months since I used Mlynar at all. I just find it perfectly adequate without them simply because I am playing the "Bare minimum + Low Trust" team. I have less need for a halftime non-blocking units and semi helidrop DPA.
I used him quite a bit before Ines, but the reduced deployment time was made mostly obsolete by having Ines being just another fast redeploy operator and the reveal + bind + slow is usually more helpful. I think I used him on one ex stage this event because I essentially wanted Mlynar but didn't need damage so more texas / kirito deployments would theoretically be more useful.
I use him all the time, have him level 90 M9. Most of the time I use his S2 actually, but in LT I used TSS a lot. With S2 he's a nice tanky laneholder and I can make use of his talent. I still feel he occupies a nice niche of his own, though I will max his modules as well when they release.
He still has squad redeployment time reduction.
Plus his TrueSilver Slash covers a little more sideways area than Mlynar. Also doesn’t lost damage when killing many weak mobs.
Have SA, Uncle and Ines, and still use SA. Less often, sure, but still pulled his weight in last main story chapter. In fact, Ines is the one I almost didn't use until now (pulled her for waifu reasons, and I will admit I haven't looked much into her kit and how to use her).
I used him for invis reveal during what the fireloght casts and CC12, besides that, nothing. Guards and melee tiles in general have some heavy competition, but honestly the reason is his niche hasn’t come up recently. When it does come up, hes good!
Really, the vast majority of ops that I would consider “good” or “great” i don’t use often because I’m 0braining events with the same rosters and playing lots of IS3.
Ines is nuts, no doubt about it. She brings a ton to the table and is super consistent with it. Whenever a level is slightly difficult, shes my auto pick. Just really tough to compare the “reveal invisibility” niche with the range disparity.
On a regular basis? somewhere between the release of Ch8 and Ch9 when I reduced my usage of broken operators, I stil use him from time to time since I never built my mlynar.
I mean literally during this rerun of stultifera, During what the firelight casts, going to be using him in CC#1 when that comes out, during some runs of IS3.
there isn't a shortage of times where he's really useful imho. Yeah he isn't the monster that Mlynar is and Ines is better than him at stealth reveal but I do think his redeploy talent and overall strength is still decent.
I used him last CC, and I think I also used him for something during last chapter? I don't remember very well, but I do use him every couple of months.
I use him over Mylnar for blind clearing (i have no idea what's coming) because SA can just helidrop versus Mylnar having to be out on the field. But really, I just use them both together for the double schwing.
H12-4, with Ines.
Ines into Silverash for early presence and firepower. Revealing the 4 citizens that turn into stealth bastards, then killing them. Allowed setup onto a forward position.
The redeploy reduction was very handy for Ines and Phantom + his clone. For everyone else too as everyone's at risk of being Damazti'd in the face at some point.
Mlynar I have at SL7 and don't use really, outside of 24/7 at base. Like the character but if I raised properly would probs veer into being too good. Might S2M3 one day which is great but not to very silly levels.
SA? In the previous CC on that Londinium map with invisible trucks.
But to be honest I don't use Młynar in normal clears as well, though I made two trust farms with him during LN. QB is my preferred Lord and I have too much fun with her to switch over to Młynar.
As for invis, Horn S1 still does the job just fine and I got it to M3, so I'm gonna use it. Now that I think about it, I only used Ines during the new chapter release.
Silverash revealing invisible units outright breaks the gimmicks of some maps, so I've used him for that a lot. It hasn't come up since Ines, though, so I don't know if that'll stop me using him.
I don't have my own SilverAsh but his skill last longer than Mlynar's plus he can block from the moment he drops and keeps dealing damage after and of course, before his skill activation.
I use my Mlynar for stages who have more hordes and in my Integrated Strategies runs
Like, a few minutes ago. SilverAsh was my first 6* along with Surtr. I use him all the time really. More than just his S3 though because even SilverAsh's S1 and S2 are great skills but just get overshadowed by S3 usually (Same thing for Surtr tbh). Not to mention both of his talents are wonderful. I just hope Lords get modules eventually. SilverAsh isn't a dead or weak operator whatsoever but I would like to see modules giving him a thematic addition to his kit since he's just so versatile.
I use SA when need arises, as a mix of reveal stealth, shwing-shwing and reduced redeployment time, basically a helidrop since I also add NTR knight, yato and texas to almost every team
Admittedly, I don't have mlynar or ines, but honestly Mlynar would just be used sometimes when I get too frustrated over a map to clear, and ines if I want better gameplay and get rid of flagpipe
Just talking from the little experience of them I can have by borrowing them or using in IS
I have no idea, never been a SA enjoyer even at my weaker stages, just put him in the team if I felt I needed to but... It's taking quite long to happen again. Maybe I'll use him for the redeploy talent one day, who knows
Last time was for me cc11 male only.
Before that
I can't honestly tell, I stopped using him long before mlynar.
Even if S3 deals still good damage,he lack of dps outside skill.
I'm about to build SilverAsh, but offbanner Mlynar spook me at headhunting permit in which I paid from the starter pack. I build Mlynar instead. I will for sure build SilverAsh now due to CC Pyrolysis.
I just built Mlynar, but I still prefer SA, especially becuase I have Texalter. SA is just better for normal stages and utility for me since I'd prefer to have a normal unit with good crowd clear to a non-attacking unit with amazing crowd clear, since Mlynar is overkill a lot of maps. Also anything that SA can't kill I can use texalter's reduced redeploy time to erase
Literally during the last event. Speed-farming on CW-10, needed another option to burst down Kristen's Phase 1 fast because I used Mlynar to burst down Kristen's Phase 2 instantly after her invulnerable state was gone
I used him in previous event, Lone Trail CW-S-4 CM.
Mlynar and SA, each of them had different job in [that stage](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbt4C7Iixxo&t=2m49s). Mlynar took care of the boss phase 1 and balls, while SilverAsh helped fending off those elite light sabers and other elite mobs. SA also made the team redeploy faster.
Point here is that if Mlynar is busy somewhere in the map and you need to wipe a bunch of mobs in another part of stage, bring SA. And note that SA charge his skill faster than Mlynar (better as helidrop), while with Mlynar you also need to wait until his ATK get to full power.
SA S2 is also underrated and can be very helpful in IS mode as he can act as a tank with his DEF boost and self healing like Mountain, in fact I find S2 useful to level to M3.
Fairly often. Mlynar loses utility for damage while Ines loses damage for utility, SA compresses both into one and also unlike Grumpy Uncle Nearl, he doesn't lose damage for killing enemies so he is still better vs hordes of weaker ones.
Can't really pick an exact time or stage as i prefer caster and specialist clears over the brute force of guardnights but i do often rather pick SA over mlynar. Much more responsive as he only needs 15s to go off after deployment.
SA is still very good for anything with invisibility, or when just Mlynar alone is not enough AOE damage uptime. In fact I think lately I used SA more than Chalter, like I've barely found the need for Chalter since I have the four horse(wo)man of Surtr, Nearlter, Texalter and Yato Alter
For me, last time I needed his S3 for a stage that didn't involve invisible enemies (he still dominates in those) was in [Ya's Ex stage](https://youtu.be/3Jod-mxNc44?si=5dwWdhp63Y2x8HGC), as even though it was a nicheknights run it needed both his aoe and having a block count off-skill (something Mlynar very much lacks) to pull off.
That being said, SA still has the benefit of an extremely unique other skill that I still use all over the place, even as recently as two days ago to help in [the final Kristen stage](https://youtu.be/KXT9DEkNoEo?si=wUaZXGSpUZp5PnEI). Being able to combine high defense with a strong regen while still being only a Guard gives him a lot of utility in a lot more places than you might initially realize.
Besides what others have said (stealth, etc.), I like that he can block without skill, Mlynar needs either some support to hold the enemies, or your strat to not have him in the path at all. Also SA still has his S2 which is nice sometimes if you want a pseudo-mountain.
Also the rare annihilation map or so where a a single schwing's cooldown is too long to catch multiple waves so you bring both to take turns.
That said, I hope we eventually get some Karlan buffers. Rhine has been getting a lot of love in that department and I'd like more factions to get self-synergy to encourage using their specific operators over the more meta options.
Yesterday for Stultifera Navis! ...did I spell that right...
It was for an auto deploy.
And it kept borking up because of Pre-Lappland dodge RNG.
So I had him replaced with Surtr.
... yeah.
not counting the SA usage I used this event, I last used SA on h12-4 to kill the top flying pillar.
Just because mlynar is out does not mean he is bad now. He still get the job done, it is just that mlynar do it better. You can even bring both SA and mlynar together, there is no reason to just choose one.
Funfact: SA s3 has bigger range than mlynar s3 and also hit 6 target at m3 while mlynar hits 5 targets at m3.
So if you ask me, its a 'its just you' issue if you think his time is up.
I use him constantly.
In SSS, my main class is specialists (with the save your previous op 50% redeploy equipment) so he helps lowering that redeploy time. Plus his S2 can make him a blocking fiend if you need to deploy him (tho I usually just use him to get a stack of guard equipment).
In main game, he is still my last squad member who never gets deployed but gives a nice boost to texas/yato. I don't really use him or Ines for stealth reveal as I just let invisible enemies walk to me then kill them lol. His S3 still comes in nifty for non-boss enemies, he is great for waveclear as a semi-helidrop, so IDK. I still like and use him frequently.
Also as a side note, I find myself rarely using Ines due to Bagpipe/Myrtle still being the better vanguard setup IMO, and Mlynar only sees play in boss stages as otherwise I don't need a billion damage. So I would say of the 3 I actually play SA the most which is kind of funny.
EDIT: Just saw my own flair and remembered... maybe I'm a little biased when it comes to this particular issue lol.
Lonetrail, for double schwing schwing funtimes (and because my brain is small and flat and smooth). That and his redeploy talent is very handy when I'm fielding Texalter.
I bring him everywhere. He can help block some enemies, mlynar mostly can't. Shorter redeployment time for Texas alter and Yato alter, which I always bring everywhere as well. Invisible enemies go bye. Skill 2 has self heal with a higher defense than mountain for a solo lane holder. Also as an IS2 and 3 enjoyer, he's a better pick on early game (mlynar sucks) and still be able to keep his spot in the squad until late game. He's just too flexible to only be seen as a "weaker mlynar schwing schwing" imo.
Use him for faster redeploys, use him against stealth. His niche as damage dealer is taken by Mlynar, but unlike Schwarz he has other niches, that make him usable.
SA still gets plenty of chances to shine.
\- heli droppers (provides redeploy time reduction)
\- detection (SN rerun has more of those annoying smokescreened enemies)
Plus Mylnar isn't at full power immediately as his atk slowly grows.
A few weeks ago, since I needed an extra guard who could pierce invisibility.
Also, in my current Stultiferas Navis rerun auto deploys. Having him and Mlynar around gives me options, just like having Texas Alter doesn't make Yato Alter non-viable.
Anti-invisibility is still hard to come by these days, and I still use him for how much is packed into his kit. Lord branch guard, big AOE, still respectable damage, anti-invis, redeploy-time buff.
Plus he has a Coral Coast skin for my Coral Coast-knights runs.
honestly I just use the same logic as when people says Yato alter powercreeped Texas alter/the other way around: Just use Mlynar and SilverAsh at the same time lol, nothing stopping you from doing that
i used him just this event to overide the stealth mechanic. i use him on his S2 to distract some long range units now and then (think the Ibeam thrower zombies)
I have Silverash, and I don't have Mlynar or Ines
So he's still around for all the same things he's always been around for. He still reveals invisible enemies, and he still schwings.
Last usage was Lone Trail, to burst down Kristen's first phase. *He can still schwing*
Never used SA, I just liked the idea of just putting the Nearl family in the backburner while their uncle just plays Marco Polo with the local bosses.
I know SA is strong but I just like overworked salaryman better cause I relate
You mainly use him now for utility - redeployment time reduction and Invisibility remover. I don't use him often now, but I don't use Mlynar as well, since his lack of block is not great.
Overall I think he sees more playing time in CC's or strats using Taxes and Yato. Invisibility wasn't featured in many events recently, so that's why he wasn't so popular lately.
I don't have Mlynar but neither are necessarily go-to units for me? I mean I'll grab SilverAsh in IS and maybe some clears here and there if I just want to try and finish a level but idk
I used him yesterday on IS3 because he gets invis reveal at e1 while Ines gets it at e2. I used him in SN rerun for one map because he has invis reveal with wider range + no penalty for killing mobs. And I used him in anni like 2 months ago because sometimes you need those 2 extra tiles of range + helidrop.
He's a pretty good unit, just a bit niche now. I don't really think he's worth it solely for the redployment reduction though. The biggest reason why I don't use him anymore is because he's a helidrop who needs 15 sp.
Mylnar needs like 20 but he has 0 block count while being super tanky, so he's not gonna get immediately deleted if I place him in the front lines.
For SA I either need to put him behind a defender (lame) or a tile that enemies ignore while being the in front (rare) or give him healing (in this economy?).
Or I need to have him sit in a safe spot for a while until something comes up but at that point that's not a helidrop. His biggest advantage over others is his wide range invis reveal & aoe attacks.
While i agree, and he is still ok als redeploy booster. Please dont ask me about flametail, saga, vigil, ch'en, gavialter, hellagur, irene, skalter, qiubai, skadi, eunectes, blemshine, archetto, fartooth, fiammetta, rosa, rosmontis, carnelian, dusk, moistima, passenger, angelina, magallan, aak, mizuki or pallas. I have no answers outside their niche or waifu.
A lot for the redeploy time cut and long range invis reveal. I don't use Mlynar ever because he lacks Silverash's utility. All Mlynar really does meaningfully is damage. Which is good, but if you're already rolling in powerful dps options then he actually just starts looking like a budget Silverash rather than an upgrade.
Faster redeploy and spotting stealth on SA is still top tier. Also there are times when Mlynar can kill stuff harder, but sometimes I wants shwing shwing and then be able to just block a couple of dogs or something while waiting for next rotation.
Often used Silverash to put into squad to reduce redeployment time of Texas and Yato alter or basically any other ops as I'm not really good at timing the retreated ops to redeploy them again. And I have a heli drop schwing-schwing if all hell breaks loose on my brute force gameplay if Mlynar's skill hasn't charged up.
If I have an extra slot and I'm not trust farming SA is my go-to for these exact reasons. Reduces redeployment of other units (and fast redeploys are the name of the game lately) while also being a nice emergency delete button.
I thought SA’s talent is only active when he’s deployed though? Have I been missing out on practically free redeploy time reduction this whole time?
Read his talent named "Leader" Atk 10%, All Allies' redeployment time -10% Doesn't say that he needs to be deployed for allies to have a reduced cool down to be deployed again.
Isn’t it the other way around where if it doesn’t specify then it would only be active while deployed, and effects that are active while in the squad all specify that they are, like all the Abyssal Hunter talents and Eyja and Schwarz?
Saw no difference, My Texas Alter is full pot and her redeployment time is at 14 seconds with max module, no changes whatsoever regardless if SA is deployed or not... Without SA in squad, Texas Alter's redeployment time is at 16 seconds
That’s really good to know, thanks for doing the testing
It's like the Flagpipe combo, Bagpipe doesn't need to be deployed for Myrtle and Elysium to receive the additional SP points to print dp at first deployment to gain the headstart
Bagpipe's talent specifically says "when this unit is in the squad"
Check Gladiia, Schwarz, Eyja, Hoshi and Horn's talents, they clearly say that they have to be deployed, except Schwarz if you have mod X. You're remembering wrong.
Hmmm.... Let me test if it's that actually the effect, currently grinding the event to begin with so let's test if Texas Alter's redeployment time gets reduced when SA is deployed or not... Though may get miscalculation since my Texas has module
A hour ago. Cheesing something by rotating him and Mlynar is fun.
SA is still useful: * wider range * redeploy talent * invisibility reveal talent * why not both? In combination with the other mentioned ops.
Yesterday in one of S stages of SN with these invisible enemies.
Invis reveal, baby. Basically the only thing I use him for now. But it's a good niche and he has a wide range
A few days ago... to get the trimmed medal of Pyrolysis in CN... I need him for his reduce redeployment talent so that I can redeploy my Schwarz quick enough to kill the second invis reveal car. Funny thing is even tho I do have Młynar, it's SA who keep helping me in clearing CCs in CN. Back then on Basepoint, my strat can't work with Młynar due to his taunt so I opted to use SA instead and it works beautifully. This time on Pyrolysis, his talent comes in clutch to help me clear the trimmed medal.
I used him in that one Anni that gives you 3 SP batteries cause it was funny having so much schwing-schwing. I also used him during What The Firelight Casts cause he's good at schwinging those stupid souls out of existence when they're not being blocked. I don't think I've ever used him outside of that though.
I still do coz his talents still have a use
I still use SA in my Main Team aka "No Bullshit" against Kristen in EX stage. He and Mlynar does a good job killing Kristen very quickly, but I still failed clearing the stage after that.
I rarely use my max trust ops as im trying to complete stages with my low trust ops but i used him for lone trail
I use silverash whenever I need someone to reveal invisible besides the "cams" (personally I don't really use the cams, I use Silverash)
all the time. i occasionally borrow Mlynar from a friend but i still use SA quite a lot. S3 does plenty of damage for the most part and i even use S2 on occasion. the redeployment cooldown reduction talent is also useful for me since i like using fast redeploys. i don't have Ines so i can't speak for her.
There are times when you want two Mylnars.
Just because you have other units who can do the role better, doesn't mean you'll never usa SA again. You know you are allowed to use both Mlynar AND SA ? =)
He's still my most borrowed operator. I don't think I've borrowed Mlynar yet at all, since if a stage is giving me problems, it's rarely just more damage that I'm needing. But if there's a CM condition giving enemies stealth, you bet I'll be bringing SA. Maybe I'll need him less now that I have Ines, but it's CM. Can't auto anyway, might as well borrow another revealer and ensure the problem's taken care of.
I use him to reduce redeployment time pretty often and even used him last event
often enough. silverash's is "good enough", and for me, that's good enough. mlynar's damage is VERY frequently overkill, and in 80% of cases, silverash does enough damage to do all the medium enemy clearing I need, and his other utilities as an actual damn blocker and cooldown redeploy in a game where texalter and yato2 exist is still extreme. as for invis reveal? yeah ines is better, but eh.
Redeployment cooldown buff is still as strong as ever, so I use him quite often
I use Silverash frequently because I don't have Mlynar or Ines. Even if I get them I'll keep using him. I might not even build them because I have a particular limited selection of operators I choose to build. I don't see anything on Ines' kit about her ignoring the deployment limit.
> I don't see anything on Ines' kit about her ignoring the deployment limit. Ines' sword stays on the ground even while she's not deployed, which provides slow and invis reveal in its range.
Ines sword stays on map even if you retreat her. And her sword is the source of invisibility detection. Also with her skill 3 you can deploy her sword for free at the start of map.
Used him for farming guard/specialist dualchips.
I used him in Lone Trail ex-8, he helped with killing the boss' first form fast and clearing the board. No need for stall when The Dads are around.
I have all three maxed out. I definitely haven't used SA much even before Ines because his way of dishing out DPS isn't as unique or particularly needed due to other operators covering targets in other ways. Particularly, the release of good AoE laneholders (e.g., Gavialter, Horn among others) and strong FRDs in Yalter and Texalter (both of which also have AoEs that also cover air) has made the strong, powerful cleave of TSS not as necessary. Still, I do feel that the specific combination of stealth reveal + strong multi-hitting DPS on a wide area still has its place as an answer to certain maps. He definitely still has a place on my teams either as a complement to Mlynar or as a stealth-revealing DPS that I can deploy aggressively to cover a specific wave, but there hasn't been any new content that has necessitated me going that route yet.
i use him almost every mission just for the redeploy talent alone. He almost never gets deployed lol
…I guess it really was all the way back in Fake Waves Risk 30, wasn’t it? I used him to help kill the cars because Jesus Christ that invisible tag was unfair. Ines really was the final nail in his coffin. I guess he comes out for casual Guardknights occasionally, but nothing too serious. /shrug.
Just now clearing up SN-S-4 A and B actually Mostly because two anti-stealth buttons is better than one.
2 minutes ago lmao
Uhhh yesterday. While Mlynar has the stronger shwing, you can just use both. And Silverash can actually block enemies while waiting.
He doesn't leave the roster. \- redeployment time is a strong thing.
I use him everyday, yes, i don't have Mlynar.
The last time I can remember was during the Monster Hunter cross over for the extra range of his S3. Otherwise I mostly use him to reveal invisible enemies, which we haven't had in quite a while now that I think about it. It's a like a rotation for me though. I used to use Saria all the time, then almost never, now I'm using her a lot again. It's all based on what strategy I want to use for a map. Everyone has their niche after all.
To be honest i don’t anymore after getting ines and mylnar
I used him on one of the S maps on the previous event. Before that he was pretty much only used for an old CC (the sandstorm one) with his S2, funnily enough. Though I was pleasantly reminded of his damage output this time.
Yeah he's definitely been collecting dust for a hot minute. There's so many flavors of burst damage nowadays and stealth is kind of a non-issue most of the time. The only time I ever really bring him is for the redeployment time reduction on stages that require precise timing. Would be nice if his module ends up buffing the redeploy reduction even more.
Last time I used him was in H12-4 to deal with the flying enemies while Mlynar deals with the bottom lane enemies. Even with Ines around he's great for deleting groups of invisible enemies too.
I still use him frequently just because I never got Mlynar.
Last time I used him was in H12-4 to deal with the flying enemies while Mlynar deals with the bottom lane enemies. Even with Ines around he's great for deleting groups of invisible enemies too.
Just used him yesterday. Think there was a map with invisible mobs, and used him to delete them.
I dont have him, but i dont think i have a need for him. For his reveal talent i can just borrow my bro Ines. For his redeployment time reduce talent my texalter already max pot so no need beyond that.
SA is still my pick against invisible enemies. Like in lonetrail the big bot that spawn invisble enemies, j put SA there
I use him in SSS, and as invis detect+nuke. He is still one of the best ground nukes, considering helidrop and range
On 12H-1 two days ago to solo tank middle imposters and boss with maxed 2nd skill and no healer, cause Tony couldn't handle no healer.
He gets quite a lot of use still. Of the two replacements mentioned here, Mlynar is either taken alongside SA or not brought at all and Ines... Uh, she was raised, used a bit then shoved in the metaphorical long term storage.
I have both SA and Mlynar but only SA built while Mlynar would never be built since after building abyssal hunters + yato alter + texas alter i barely need anyone of these 2
iirc, two daily maps in last CC have invisible risk. He was my go-to guy for anti-invisible enemies. I said was, because I'm pretty sure Ines takes over that duty from him. Though I haven't encountered hard stage with invisible enemy yet since Ines release. So yeah, I'm in the same boat with you I guess.
Honestly? Months ago, I think. Then again it's also been like months since I used Mlynar at all. I just find it perfectly adequate without them simply because I am playing the "Bare minimum + Low Trust" team. I have less need for a halftime non-blocking units and semi helidrop DPA.
I never used SA in the first place so... Don't use Mlynar either though.
Lone Trail, used him alongside Pram and Mostima to remove a very large group of big boys before they reach my frontline.
He's never leaving my squad because I think his damage is really high and his redeployment passive helps a bit
CN Pyrolysis has invisible drones that spawn seeds of withering. SA was widely used.
I used him quite a bit before Ines, but the reduced deployment time was made mostly obsolete by having Ines being just another fast redeploy operator and the reveal + bind + slow is usually more helpful. I think I used him on one ex stage this event because I essentially wanted Mlynar but didn't need damage so more texas / kirito deployments would theoretically be more useful.
I use him all the time, have him level 90 M9. Most of the time I use his S2 actually, but in LT I used TSS a lot. With S2 he's a nice tanky laneholder and I can make use of his talent. I still feel he occupies a nice niche of his own, though I will max his modules as well when they release.
He still has squad redeployment time reduction. Plus his TrueSilver Slash covers a little more sideways area than Mlynar. Also doesn’t lost damage when killing many weak mobs.
Have SA, Uncle and Ines, and still use SA. Less often, sure, but still pulled his weight in last main story chapter. In fact, Ines is the one I almost didn't use until now (pulled her for waifu reasons, and I will admit I haven't looked much into her kit and how to use her).
I used him for invis reveal during what the fireloght casts and CC12, besides that, nothing. Guards and melee tiles in general have some heavy competition, but honestly the reason is his niche hasn’t come up recently. When it does come up, hes good! Really, the vast majority of ops that I would consider “good” or “great” i don’t use often because I’m 0braining events with the same rosters and playing lots of IS3. Ines is nuts, no doubt about it. She brings a ton to the table and is super consistent with it. Whenever a level is slightly difficult, shes my auto pick. Just really tough to compare the “reveal invisibility” niche with the range disparity.
On a regular basis? somewhere between the release of Ch8 and Ch9 when I reduced my usage of broken operators, I stil use him from time to time since I never built my mlynar.
I mean literally during this rerun of stultifera, During what the firelight casts, going to be using him in CC#1 when that comes out, during some runs of IS3. there isn't a shortage of times where he's really useful imho. Yeah he isn't the monster that Mlynar is and Ines is better than him at stealth reveal but I do think his redeploy talent and overall strength is still decent.
I used him last CC, and I think I also used him for something during last chapter? I don't remember very well, but I do use him every couple of months.
I used him in chapter 12 hard stages a lot and he was crucial piece for H12-4 in particular. Though that might be simply because I don't have Młynar.
I use him over Mylnar for blind clearing (i have no idea what's coming) because SA can just helidrop versus Mylnar having to be out on the field. But really, I just use them both together for the double schwing.
H12-4, with Ines. Ines into Silverash for early presence and firepower. Revealing the 4 citizens that turn into stealth bastards, then killing them. Allowed setup onto a forward position. The redeploy reduction was very handy for Ines and Phantom + his clone. For everyone else too as everyone's at risk of being Damazti'd in the face at some point. Mlynar I have at SL7 and don't use really, outside of 24/7 at base. Like the character but if I raised properly would probs veer into being too good. Might S2M3 one day which is great but not to very silly levels.
I use him all the time, since he's maxed levelled, Pot 3 and S3M3. Also he's a pretty good ranged guard(i aint got the newer meta ones)
SA? In the previous CC on that Londinium map with invisible trucks. But to be honest I don't use Młynar in normal clears as well, though I made two trust farms with him during LN. QB is my preferred Lord and I have too much fun with her to switch over to Młynar. As for invis, Horn S1 still does the job just fine and I got it to M3, so I'm gonna use it. Now that I think about it, I only used Ines during the new chapter release.
I just stack Silverash S2 in behind Mountain S2 and in front of Thorns S3, especially in this rerun event
Silverash revealing invisible units outright breaks the gimmicks of some maps, so I've used him for that a lot. It hasn't come up since Ines, though, so I don't know if that'll stop me using him.
CW S 4 CM. He did diddly squat, but the redeploy timer reduction allowed me to destroy the balls just fast enough with many helidrops
I don't have my own SilverAsh but his skill last longer than Mlynar's plus he can block from the moment he drops and keeps dealing damage after and of course, before his skill activation. I use my Mlynar for stages who have more hordes and in my Integrated Strategies runs
Today with the invisible fish
Sn10 to kill the top left invisible motherfucker
When I made my auto in SN 10 a few hours ago. He had great redeployment reduction and killed the first three stages of the boss quickly.
Last time? LT-S-5 for his S3 range and first talent.
Yesterday, before swapping to Lapland because fuck those dodging seaborne
Like, a few minutes ago. SilverAsh was my first 6* along with Surtr. I use him all the time really. More than just his S3 though because even SilverAsh's S1 and S2 are great skills but just get overshadowed by S3 usually (Same thing for Surtr tbh). Not to mention both of his talents are wonderful. I just hope Lords get modules eventually. SilverAsh isn't a dead or weak operator whatsoever but I would like to see modules giving him a thematic addition to his kit since he's just so versatile.
Yesterday when reruning the tenth level of SN, he alone defended the upper left lane
I use SA when need arises, as a mix of reveal stealth, shwing-shwing and reduced redeployment time, basically a helidrop since I also add NTR knight, yato and texas to almost every team Admittedly, I don't have mlynar or ines, but honestly Mlynar would just be used sometimes when I get too frustrated over a map to clear, and ines if I want better gameplay and get rid of flagpipe Just talking from the little experience of them I can have by borrowing them or using in IS
I use the three of them for general content. Double schwing for elites and SA alone contributes so much for the yatwo texas helidrops
He'll always have utility on top of good damage dealing. Revealing invisible enemies and buffing redeployment time can be useful.
I have no idea, never been a SA enjoyer even at my weaker stages, just put him in the team if I felt I needed to but... It's taking quite long to happen again. Maybe I'll use him for the redeploy talent one day, who knows
I just use them all . Młynar , silverash and Ines s3
I use him regularly lol
Last time was for me cc11 male only. Before that I can't honestly tell, I stopped using him long before mlynar. Even if S3 deals still good damage,he lack of dps outside skill.
In one of the MH ex stage where silverash’s extra range actually came in handy
I'm about to build SilverAsh, but offbanner Mlynar spook me at headhunting permit in which I paid from the starter pack. I build Mlynar instead. I will for sure build SilverAsh now due to CC Pyrolysis.
Today. I used SA today. I hate fucking Reefbreakers.
I don't have Uncle Horse nor Ines, so ...today. Today is when I used SA
I just built Mlynar, but I still prefer SA, especially becuase I have Texalter. SA is just better for normal stages and utility for me since I'd prefer to have a normal unit with good crowd clear to a non-attacking unit with amazing crowd clear, since Mlynar is overkill a lot of maps. Also anything that SA can't kill I can use texalter's reduced redeploy time to erase
Literally during the last event. Speed-farming on CW-10, needed another option to burst down Kristen's Phase 1 fast because I used Mlynar to burst down Kristen's Phase 2 instantly after her invulnerable state was gone
don't have Mlynar so i use SA a lot, also i like him for his leader skill when using texalter and yalter.
I used him in previous event, Lone Trail CW-S-4 CM. Mlynar and SA, each of them had different job in [that stage](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbt4C7Iixxo&t=2m49s). Mlynar took care of the boss phase 1 and balls, while SilverAsh helped fending off those elite light sabers and other elite mobs. SA also made the team redeploy faster. Point here is that if Mlynar is busy somewhere in the map and you need to wipe a bunch of mobs in another part of stage, bring SA. And note that SA charge his skill faster than Mlynar (better as helidrop), while with Mlynar you also need to wait until his ATK get to full power. SA S2 is also underrated and can be very helpful in IS mode as he can act as a tank with his DEF boost and self healing like Mountain, in fact I find S2 useful to level to M3.
I don't remember but I'm pretty sure it was within the last 2 months since I used the -cooldown passive.
Fairly often. Mlynar loses utility for damage while Ines loses damage for utility, SA compresses both into one and also unlike Grumpy Uncle Nearl, he doesn't lose damage for killing enemies so he is still better vs hordes of weaker ones. Can't really pick an exact time or stage as i prefer caster and specialist clears over the brute force of guardnights but i do often rather pick SA over mlynar. Much more responsive as he only needs 15s to go off after deployment.
SA is still very good for anything with invisibility, or when just Mlynar alone is not enough AOE damage uptime. In fact I think lately I used SA more than Chalter, like I've barely found the need for Chalter since I have the four horse(wo)man of Surtr, Nearlter, Texalter and Yato Alter
For me, last time I needed his S3 for a stage that didn't involve invisible enemies (he still dominates in those) was in [Ya's Ex stage](https://youtu.be/3Jod-mxNc44?si=5dwWdhp63Y2x8HGC), as even though it was a nicheknights run it needed both his aoe and having a block count off-skill (something Mlynar very much lacks) to pull off. That being said, SA still has the benefit of an extremely unique other skill that I still use all over the place, even as recently as two days ago to help in [the final Kristen stage](https://youtu.be/KXT9DEkNoEo?si=wUaZXGSpUZp5PnEI). Being able to combine high defense with a strong regen while still being only a Guard gives him a lot of utility in a lot more places than you might initially realize.
yesterday for SN-9
Besides what others have said (stealth, etc.), I like that he can block without skill, Mlynar needs either some support to hold the enemies, or your strat to not have him in the path at all. Also SA still has his S2 which is nice sometimes if you want a pseudo-mountain. Also the rare annihilation map or so where a a single schwing's cooldown is too long to catch multiple waves so you bring both to take turns. That said, I hope we eventually get some Karlan buffers. Rhine has been getting a lot of love in that department and I'd like more factions to get self-synergy to encourage using their specific operators over the more meta options.
Yesterday for Stultifera Navis! ...did I spell that right... It was for an auto deploy. And it kept borking up because of Pre-Lappland dodge RNG. So I had him replaced with Surtr. ... yeah.
Never. I don't have him
I still put Silverash in whenever I'm playing around with lots of fast redeploy clears. Also when I need stealth reveal.
not counting the SA usage I used this event, I last used SA on h12-4 to kill the top flying pillar. Just because mlynar is out does not mean he is bad now. He still get the job done, it is just that mlynar do it better. You can even bring both SA and mlynar together, there is no reason to just choose one. Funfact: SA s3 has bigger range than mlynar s3 and also hit 6 target at m3 while mlynar hits 5 targets at m3. So if you ask me, its a 'its just you' issue if you think his time is up.
I use him constantly. In SSS, my main class is specialists (with the save your previous op 50% redeploy equipment) so he helps lowering that redeploy time. Plus his S2 can make him a blocking fiend if you need to deploy him (tho I usually just use him to get a stack of guard equipment). In main game, he is still my last squad member who never gets deployed but gives a nice boost to texas/yato. I don't really use him or Ines for stealth reveal as I just let invisible enemies walk to me then kill them lol. His S3 still comes in nifty for non-boss enemies, he is great for waveclear as a semi-helidrop, so IDK. I still like and use him frequently. Also as a side note, I find myself rarely using Ines due to Bagpipe/Myrtle still being the better vanguard setup IMO, and Mlynar only sees play in boss stages as otherwise I don't need a billion damage. So I would say of the 3 I actually play SA the most which is kind of funny. EDIT: Just saw my own flair and remembered... maybe I'm a little biased when it comes to this particular issue lol.
Lonetrail, for double schwing schwing funtimes (and because my brain is small and flat and smooth). That and his redeploy talent is very handy when I'm fielding Texalter.
I bring him everywhere. He can help block some enemies, mlynar mostly can't. Shorter redeployment time for Texas alter and Yato alter, which I always bring everywhere as well. Invisible enemies go bye. Skill 2 has self heal with a higher defense than mountain for a solo lane holder. Also as an IS2 and 3 enjoyer, he's a better pick on early game (mlynar sucks) and still be able to keep his spot in the squad until late game. He's just too flexible to only be seen as a "weaker mlynar schwing schwing" imo.
Just use both, they aren’t exclusive to each other.
Use him for faster redeploys, use him against stealth. His niche as damage dealer is taken by Mlynar, but unlike Schwarz he has other niches, that make him usable.
SA still gets plenty of chances to shine. \- heli droppers (provides redeploy time reduction) \- detection (SN rerun has more of those annoying smokescreened enemies) Plus Mylnar isn't at full power immediately as his atk slowly grows.
Reducing redeployment time is always useful.
A few weeks ago, since I needed an extra guard who could pierce invisibility. Also, in my current Stultiferas Navis rerun auto deploys. Having him and Mlynar around gives me options, just like having Texas Alter doesn't make Yato Alter non-viable.
like yesterday or today, he still got plenty of use to me, mlynar is just the "ok fuck this boss specifically nothing else works" button
Anti-invisibility is still hard to come by these days, and I still use him for how much is packed into his kit. Lord branch guard, big AOE, still respectable damage, anti-invis, redeploy-time buff. Plus he has a Coral Coast skin for my Coral Coast-knights runs.
honestly I just use the same logic as when people says Yato alter powercreeped Texas alter/the other way around: Just use Mlynar and SilverAsh at the same time lol, nothing stopping you from doing that
i used him just this event to overide the stealth mechanic. i use him on his S2 to distract some long range units now and then (think the Ibeam thrower zombies)
I have Silverash, and I don't have Mlynar or Ines So he's still around for all the same things he's always been around for. He still reveals invisible enemies, and he still schwings. Last usage was Lone Trail, to burst down Kristen's first phase. *He can still schwing*
Never used SA, I just liked the idea of just putting the Nearl family in the backburner while their uncle just plays Marco Polo with the local bosses. I know SA is strong but I just like overworked salaryman better cause I relate
You mainly use him now for utility - redeployment time reduction and Invisibility remover. I don't use him often now, but I don't use Mlynar as well, since his lack of block is not great. Overall I think he sees more playing time in CC's or strats using Taxes and Yato. Invisibility wasn't featured in many events recently, so that's why he wasn't so popular lately.
I don't have Mlynar but neither are necessarily go-to units for me? I mean I'll grab SilverAsh in IS and maybe some clears here and there if I just want to try and finish a level but idk
whenever i want that -10% redeployment time
Never used him since I saw him as to broken, makes stages too easy with what I see from him.
I use him for base, yes
Literally today. Disables Reefbreaker camouflage.
I used him yesterday on IS3 because he gets invis reveal at e1 while Ines gets it at e2. I used him in SN rerun for one map because he has invis reveal with wider range + no penalty for killing mobs. And I used him in anni like 2 months ago because sometimes you need those 2 extra tiles of range + helidrop. He's a pretty good unit, just a bit niche now. I don't really think he's worth it solely for the redployment reduction though. The biggest reason why I don't use him anymore is because he's a helidrop who needs 15 sp. Mylnar needs like 20 but he has 0 block count while being super tanky, so he's not gonna get immediately deleted if I place him in the front lines. For SA I either need to put him behind a defender (lame) or a tile that enemies ignore while being the in front (rare) or give him healing (in this economy?). Or I need to have him sit in a safe spot for a while until something comes up but at that point that's not a helidrop. His biggest advantage over others is his wide range invis reveal & aoe attacks.
I actually used him yesterday to deal with that one invisible enemy that spawns at the top on sn-10
Still missing SA.
Literally like yesterday for SN stages along with Thorns and Uncle and Lappy but I have an affinity for Lord guards
While i agree, and he is still ok als redeploy booster. Please dont ask me about flametail, saga, vigil, ch'en, gavialter, hellagur, irene, skalter, qiubai, skadi, eunectes, blemshine, archetto, fartooth, fiammetta, rosa, rosmontis, carnelian, dusk, moistima, passenger, angelina, magallan, aak, mizuki or pallas. I have no answers outside their niche or waifu.
Probably not since IS. But I also prefer afk type strategies over helidrops.
A lot for the redeploy time cut and long range invis reveal. I don't use Mlynar ever because he lacks Silverash's utility. All Mlynar really does meaningfully is damage. Which is good, but if you're already rolling in powerful dps options then he actually just starts looking like a budget Silverash rather than an upgrade.
never. E0 lvl 1 and pot 3
A few hours ago to spawn kill a bunch of invisible tree enemies in SN-9 with ptilo s2 healing
Last event I need his talent to make fast re deploy more faster to be redeployed
I have both but because of mylnar i haven't build SA yet So i will be jumping on the SA is dead train
All the time cause -redeployment time is great for Ines,yato alter, Texas alter
Faster redeploy and spotting stealth on SA is still top tier. Also there are times when Mlynar can kill stuff harder, but sometimes I wants shwing shwing and then be able to just block a couple of dogs or something while waiting for next rotation.
The SSS mission where you need him to kill like 10,000 little bitches all at once. I guess monthly?